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Welcome to the Very Well Mind podcast.
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I'm Amy Moren, the editor-in-chief of
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Very Well Mind. I'm also a psychotherapist
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and a best-selling author of five books on
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mental strength. My newest book,
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strongest version of yourself. You
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listening to the Friday Fix. Every
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Friday, I share a quick mental strength strategy
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that can help fix the thoughts, feelings, and actions
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that can hold you back in life. And
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the fun part is, we record the show from
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a sailboat in the Florida Keys.
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Before I talk about today's topic, I
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wanted to share something amazing with you. We
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won a Webby Award for the Best Health
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and Wellness Podcast episode of the year.
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There were something like 70 million podcast
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episodes released last year. So
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we're beyond thrilled that one of our episodes
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won. It's the episode
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where actor and the host of
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America's Got Talent, Terry Crews, shares
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his story with us.
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We're honored that he chose to do so
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because that's how we start breaking the stigma surrounding
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mental health issues, by talking about
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them. If you haven't
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heard that episode yet, check out episode 174, Break
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Free From Shame with actor and host Terry
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Crews. Thank you to everyone
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who's been supporting this podcast. Now
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let's dive into today's episode. Today
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I'm talking about panic attacks. You've
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likely heard someone say, oh, I had
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a panic attack the other day. You
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might've even had one yourself, or
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maybe you don't know if you've had one. There
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are a lot of misconceptions about what panic attacks
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are and how to deal with them. So
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I'm going to explain what a panic attack actually is,
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why they happen, and a really cool
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strategy that can help if you or someone
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around you is having one. Panic
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attacks are an intense fear that triggers
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physical responses in the body. People
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who experience a panic attack might experience
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symptoms like a racing heart, their
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hands might shake, they might get short of breath,
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they might have chills, or they might have hot
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flashes, they might say they're having
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chest pain, they might feel lightheaded, and they
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just might feel kind of numb in all of their limbs. I've
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had a lot of people in my therapy office describe
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really different symptoms, so those
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might not be the only things that you experience.
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One person will come into the office and say that they break
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out into a cold sweat and they struggle to see straight,
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or they feel like their room is going dark and their legs get
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weak. But
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someone else might come in and say that their heart starts
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to beat fast
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and they feel like they have this intense rush of energy
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and like they need to escape wherever they are.
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People with panic attacks experience a variety of emotional
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symptoms too.
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People will often say things like they
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are afraid that they're going to lose control,
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or they think they're about to die,
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or they are convinced that something bad is about
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to happen but they just don't know what it is.
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Other people say they feel detached from their bodies,
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and it's almost like they're watching themselves for
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a few minutes in a strange outer body experience.
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The one thing everyone seems to agree on
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is that the entire experience is terrifying
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and they never want it to happen again. Usually
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a panic attack only lasts a few minutes, like
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at most 10 minutes in length. But
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the thing about a real panic attack is,
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at least in the clinical sense, is that
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they come out of the blue. That
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means you might have one when you're walking around the store
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or when you're just sitting on your couch at home
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or maybe while you're at work. Some
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people only ever have one or two in their lives.
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Other people start having them a couple times a week. People
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who have them often become preoccupied
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with making sure that they never have another one. They
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might go to great lengths to win. avoid anything
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they can think of that might trigger a panic attack.
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I once worked with a woman who had a panic attack
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when she was dying her hair at home. It
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was the first one she'd ever had. She
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decided it was probably just a reaction to the hair
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dye, so she was never going to dye her hair again.
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But then she had another panic attack while she was in a
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store. That store happened to sell hair
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dye. So she thought maybe her reaction
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was so strong that just being near hair
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dye could trigger it. She
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stopped going to any store that sold hair
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dye. But then she had a
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panic attack in a movie theater. She
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thought maybe someone near her had dyed their hair,
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so she said I'll just limit my time in public. This
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went on for a really long time until she
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realized it actually wasn't a reaction to the hair
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dye. She just had a panic
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attack that happened at random times, and
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she tried to look for what those random times
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might have in common so that she could prevent another
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one.
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She was just really desperate, like most people are,
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to find out what the cause is so that she can
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be in control and make sure that it never happens
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again. But
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that's the thing about panic attacks. You
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can't prevent them from ever happening.
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There usually isn't a trigger. By nature,
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and by description, they come out
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of the blue to be a real panic attack. So
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when someone says, I got an email from my boss
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the other day saying that we needed to meet right away, and
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I had a panic attack,
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they probably didn't actually have a panic attack.
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They
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probably just experienced a lot of anxiety,
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but it wasn't out of the blue. It was because they got
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the email from the boss that caused them to feel anxious,
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something that would cause a lot of people to experience
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anxiety.
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Panic attacks aren't life-threatening, but
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a lot of people go to the ER for a panic attack
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because they think that there's something wrong with
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them physically, like they're having a stroke or
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a heart attack. In
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fact, the emergency room is a common referral
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source for many therapists.
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When the doctors decide it's not a physical health problem,
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they often send the patient for mental health.
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treatment if they decide that in fact it
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was a panic attack.
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Individuals with panic attacks usually
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respond really well to mental health treatment.
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Many people by the time they see a therapist
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though have what's known as a panic disorder.
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That's when someone has said several panic attacks,
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now they're living in great fear of having another one,
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and
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it's impacting their ability to function.
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They might have trouble going to work, having a social
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life,
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or just managing day-to-day activities.
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One of the ways we often treat panic attacks
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involves exposure therapy.
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That means slowly introducing people
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to the symptoms of a panic attack.
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Depending on someone's symptoms, it could
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include anything from breathing through a straw
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to mimic the shortness of breath
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that they have with a panic attack,
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or we might have them spin an office chair for a minute
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so that they feel a little bit dizzy like they might
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during a panic attack.
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We recreate the physical symptoms in
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a safe environment and then teach people healthy
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ways to cope. And
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then when people experience them in a safe setting
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they often become less afraid of it happening when they're
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out in public.
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When they're less afraid, they tend to think
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less about panic attacks, which
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usually makes them less frequent, but
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then they learn strategies for going about their daily
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lives without the constant fear of having another
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one. And then we often
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develop a plan for what to do if they have
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a panic attack when they're in the store, when they're driving,
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or when they're at work.
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There are lots of strategies, but
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I'm going to teach you the one that seems to resonate
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best with people, and
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it's called the 5-4-3-2-1 method.
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It involves using all your senses to
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bring you into the present moment.
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It's a grounding technique that helps you focus
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on what's happening around you and
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makes you less likely to start thinking thoughts
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that fuel a panic attack like,
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I'm about to die or everyone's staring at me.
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The good news is this trick isn't
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just for full-blown panic attacks. It's
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helpful whenever you experience anxiety.
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Here's how 5-4-3-2-1
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Start by focusing on five things you
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can see. Look around
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and name things that you see right now. You might
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think chair, carpet,
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shoes, water bottle,
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and clock. When
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you're doing that, breathe slowly
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and don't rush to find five objects. Instead,
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take your time and really notice
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the shape, the color, and
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the size of each thing that you see. Next,
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focus on four things you can touch.
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Touching something can help you stay right in the present
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moment so you aren't worried about what's going to happen
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next.
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Find four objects that you can touch.
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It might be a notebook, a pillow on the couch
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next to you, your water bottle, or
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even your own arm.
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Notice the texture of each of those objects.
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Are they sharp, soft, heavy,
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fuzzy? Just take a second
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to really touch those things and think about
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how each one feels. Then,
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focus on three things you can hear.
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Pause and notice what you hear right now.
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You might become aware that there's a fan
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that's making a noise, or maybe you can
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hear cars going by, or a clock
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that's ticking. Try
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to count three things that you're hearing.
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You might have to stay quiet for a little bit to actually
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hear those things.
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Focus really hard on those sounds.
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You might find that some of those sounds are comforting, like
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the sound of a fan.
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But other things might sound too loud, like
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you suddenly might be aware that the volume
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of the TV in the other room is really loud.
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Go turn it
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down. Notice which sounds you like and which
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ones you don't. Then,
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focus on two things you can smell. This
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can be a bit of a challenge depending on where you are,
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but it's a really good way to elicit certain
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emotions. Some smells
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might trigger causes. thoughts or happy memories.
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Others might trigger some discomfort, but
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either way it's okay. And your
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job is to find two things you can smell,
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which might be coffee or perfume,
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or maybe you notice something that someone's cooking outside.
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Take a minute to really notice those scents. Then
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find one thing you can taste. You
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can put a piece of candy in your mouth or take a sip
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of coffee. In fact, you might carry
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a piece of candy around with you for just this reason
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in case you're in a store when you have a panic attack. Tasting
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something can help bring you back to the here
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and now.
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If you're in a place where you can't reach for something to
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taste,
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just imagine yourself tasting something,
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like maybe your favorite flavor of ice cream.
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There's been a lot of stuff on social media lately
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about eating something sour when you have anxiety,
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like a sour piece of candy. That
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strategy actually works. If the candy
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is really sour, it distracts you
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from your worrisome thoughts.
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So those are five things you can do to get through
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a panic attack. Focus on five
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things you see, four things
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you hear, three things you
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can touch, two things you can
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smell, and one thing you can taste.
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The goal isn't to make all of your anxiety go
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away forever, but doing this can
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help you from having all sorts of catastrophic
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predictions,
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and it can keep you from doing things that fuel your anxiety,
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like just pacing back and forth. And
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it will help you tolerate the uncomfortable feelings
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that will go away. A panic attack won't last forever.
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Quite often, people learn not to panic
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about having a panic attack when they start doing this.
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They find a strategy that works for them to get through
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it,
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and then they gain some confidence that they'll be okay
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if it happens again,
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which often leads to less anxiety overall
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and fewer panic attacks.
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If you aren't sure if you're having a panic attack or
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you have a physical health condition, go
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to the emergency room and get checked out first.
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Once you've been medically cleared though, if
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you're told it's anxiety, talk to a mental
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health professional if you can. Anxiety
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disorders are one of the most treatable,
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yet undertreated conditions out there.
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If you know someone who could benefit from hearing strategies
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to help manage panic attacks, share
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this show with them. Just sharing a
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link could help someone feel better and grow
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stronger.
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hanging out with me today and for listening to the Very
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Well Mind podcast. And as
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always, a big thank you to my show's producer
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who listens to music to stay calm,
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Nick Valentine.
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