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The view starts live

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right now. They're

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clear in the table for an

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entire day of hot topics. Sunny

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Day in court. As

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Stormy weathered a combative cross-examination

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on the stand from Trump's

0:41

attorneys, Sunny was live in

0:43

the courtroom, and she's giving

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her verdict on everything that

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went down and coming face

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to face with the former

0:51

president. Mother

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Nature. Comedian Amy

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Schumer's Mother's Day message about how

0:58

having a kid of her own

1:00

made her see her mom in

1:02

a whole different light. Plus,

1:05

feel good Friday about

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an all-new View Your

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Deal. Here

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come hot topics with

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Whoopi, Sarah

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Haines, Anna

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Navarro, Joy

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Behar, Sunny

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Hosting, and

1:28

Alyssa Farrah Griffin. Now,

1:32

let's get things started. Hello

2:03

everyone, good morning and welcome

2:05

to the Guild. So

2:09

yesterday, Stormy Daniels got back on the

2:11

stand at Trump's Hush Money trial and

2:13

was grilled in a cross examination by

2:15

Trump's attorneys. But

2:18

listen to this, our own little

2:20

Sonny Hostin was in the courtroom

2:22

yesterday. So we're

2:24

going to

2:26

cross examine her. So

2:30

my first question is what shade of orange

2:32

is his face? I have to tell you.

2:34

Would it be like more of a tangerine

2:36

or a burnt sienna? Give us some specifics.

2:38

It's a burnt sienna. I have never seen

2:40

him in person. I didn't

2:42

realize he was that orange. Like you know

2:45

Anna's been making jokes about how orange he

2:47

is. Is it like her dirty orange? It's

2:49

about like this. It's almost

2:51

like a radioactive orange and it's very shocking

2:53

to see in person. It really is because

2:55

he's a tall person and he's also a

2:57

little thinner now. I don't know if he's taken

2:59

the shot or not. He's on a zen pick. You

3:02

know it. But he's actually looking thinner.

3:04

But let me set the stage because

3:06

I think people that haven't been in

3:08

the courtroom don't understand the gravity of

3:10

it. You know you've got this very

3:12

large courtroom and it's an older courtroom.

3:14

You've got a In God We Trust

3:16

seal right next to it. The American

3:18

flag right across from the American flag,

3:20

the New York State flag, a judge

3:22

presiding with gray hair right in between

3:24

these flags and then in front of

3:26

them a former sitting president in front

3:28

of all of that for the first time in

3:30

U.S. history. So that gives you a little bit of

3:33

the gravity that actually I felt. But

3:35

then here's the T. Okay so he

3:37

is unlike any defendant sitting in a

3:39

courtroom that I've ever seen. He's

3:42

stretching out like this. He's

3:44

like fist bumping with attorneys.

3:46

He's like stretching. He

3:48

took a little nap. Like

3:50

most defendants do not do that. They

3:53

are instructed to sit there, pay attention,

3:55

look with some humility. That's not

3:58

domicile. Is

4:00

he grumpy, sleepy, or dopey? I think

4:02

he's sleepy and dopey company. Okay. That

4:05

was my impression. The other thing I will say.

4:07

And allegedly farting. I did not smell the farting.

4:09

Were you sitting downwind? I did, yeah, I was

4:11

sitting downwind, but I did not smell the farting

4:13

ever. I will also say this. I

4:16

think that cases are won and

4:18

lost with jury selection. There

4:23

are several lawyers on the jury. That

4:25

was striking to me. It's a

4:27

very diverse jury. There are many more women

4:29

on the jury than there are men. Not

4:31

good to have. Even including the alternates. Even

4:33

considering, I mean I couldn't tell which ones

4:35

were the alternates, but there are 18 people,

4:38

and the majority of them are women. So that was

4:40

kind of interesting to me, because if people drop out,

4:43

it's a pretty female skewed jury. The

4:45

other thing I will say is, it's one of

4:48

the most engaged juries I've ever seen. How is

4:50

the testimony? I'm talking notes and

4:52

everything. The testimony, I wanted to ask Alyssa

4:54

about something, because something that was interesting to

4:56

me, there was a woman that testified, Madeline

5:00

Westerhout, and she was his executive White House

5:02

assistant, right? And she sat right outside of

5:04

the Oval Office. She is part

5:06

of the Trump cult, for sure. She

5:08

described him as one of the best bosses she

5:11

ever had. She described

5:13

him as being very loving with

5:15

Melania. That they would like text

5:17

each other and wave to each other outside of the

5:19

window. I never expected anything like that. I found her

5:21

to be very credible, but then she was- You could

5:23

wave to anybody. I don't know. She found her to

5:26

be credible, but I will also say this, just

5:28

very, very quickly. She testified

5:30

that he signed every single

5:33

check that came in. This

5:35

is a paper key. So what's the question?

5:37

Well, I wanted to know, the question to you,

5:39

Alyssa, what are these, you

5:42

know, both the most recent Hope

5:44

Hicks who testified and Madeline Westerhout,

5:46

what are these women like personally?

5:48

Are they credible? Do they- Yeah,

5:51

so it's interesting, seeing

5:53

two women that I worked with, you know,

5:55

not seeing, but hearing their testimony and reading

5:58

it. And I think that's something that- the

6:00

juxtaposition of you having been there and those of

6:02

us who are just reading the transcripts and trying

6:04

to make something of it. So knowing both of

6:06

these women, they are, I

6:08

would say there are people who come off

6:10

very credible. They're, it's

6:13

weird to frame it this way, they're attractive, they're

6:15

buttoned up, they dress well. Maddie,

6:17

I don't have a single bad thing to

6:19

say about her other than that I don't

6:21

think she should still support Trump. She's a

6:23

kind person, she's warm, big smile on her

6:25

face. I was just thinking about the juxtaposition

6:28

of Stormy Daniels who I think the prosecution

6:30

made a mistake by having her go into

6:32

salacious sexual detail. Oh, I'll tell you a

6:34

piece of that too. This is

6:36

a woman who's also a mom, she's tried to get

6:38

away from this, she's an equestrian. She wants to put

6:40

that life and the Donald Trump of it behind her

6:43

and by making her sort of appear, they want

6:45

her to seem trashy, juxtaposed to these two women

6:47

who genuinely have nothing but good things to say

6:49

about Donald Trump. I could see a jury being

6:52

like, it's hard to think that he's the monster

6:54

they're making him out to be when two women

6:56

cried on the stand talking about their esteem for

6:58

him. Now I thought women cried, the one you

7:00

brought up also said that he signed all the

7:03

papers. Well, again, just one moment. If

7:06

I could just finish my point here then. There's two things

7:08

you have to prove in this case. I think they've proved

7:10

the campaign finance side of it. It was about protecting the

7:12

campaign. They could all, the defense

7:14

is going to argue he was signing dozens of

7:16

checks that came in front of him. He ran

7:19

a multi-million dollar business. He didn't know that this

7:21

was specific for paying this back just because he

7:23

signed it. But you know what's interesting is that

7:25

they all. I don't think they've proved it. There

7:29

are two people that have already testified that the

7:31

checks were made out to Michael Cohen. The checks

7:33

were made out, Trump made

7:35

them out sign them. This wonderful,

7:38

seeming young girl Madeline

7:40

testified that she made

7:42

the appointment for Michael Cohen to

7:45

go into the courtroom. You've paid Michael Cohen

7:47

tons of money over the years. Somebody said

7:49

it was specifically, someone testified that it was

7:51

specifically for the Stormy Tuck. Michael Cohen will

7:53

confirm that on Monday. Michael

7:56

Cohen, a known perger who's lied before. I

7:58

just worry about the credit. to have something about

8:00

it. You know, he used to like Trump too. Now he

8:02

hates him, now you hate him. It's the same. You know,

8:04

my friend is not like a loser. No, no, no, no,

8:07

I've testified against all of them. I'm

8:09

saying people who have changed their minds and they

8:11

change their purpose. But I'm talking about the credibility

8:13

to a jury of a known perjurer who served

8:15

jail time for lying before there are credibility. But

8:17

he's telling me a bias against an adult killed

8:19

in our too. Can I ask something? Nope. And

8:22

by the way, I think Trump did it. I just don't think

8:24

they've proved it yet. So does anybody wanna hear my opinion about

8:26

what I saw? If

8:29

I was in the courtroom, can you explain

8:31

what he came in the courtroom? And you know what,

8:33

we can prove that. But I show the pictures of

8:35

Sonny in the courtroom. Look at this. There

8:37

she is. Okay. See

8:40

that? If I was in the courtroom,

8:42

that is me, okay? The

8:44

one thing I will say about Stormy is

8:46

that at the end of the testimony,

8:48

all the testimony jurors were out of

8:50

the courtroom, the Trump's

8:53

lawyers argued for a mistrial based

8:55

on all the salacious stuff that

8:57

Stormy Daniels said, that

8:59

they didn't use a condom. Particularly they were

9:01

very upset about that. I think probably Trump

9:04

was upset about that. The judge said your

9:06

client, and even in your opening statement,

9:09

you said that the sexual encounter didn't

9:11

occur. Your client maintains that it didn't

9:13

occur. Of course the prosecution had to

9:15

bring her up on the witness stand

9:18

to talk about the fact that the

9:20

sexual encounter and the details. I

9:22

see the optics though, of what you're saying. It's

9:26

more the optics than. But a jury

9:29

filled with a lot of lawyers, they

9:31

don't care about the optics. They

9:34

understand what the judge

9:36

just said, right? And so I

9:38

was actually, I'm pretty sure. I

9:40

was really surprised

9:43

at how the judge even said to them, why

9:46

would you not object to

9:49

all of that coming in? You let it

9:51

in. I see why they used it.

9:53

If you have a he said, she said, the more

9:55

detail the better. But I'm saying, I think it should

9:58

have been. in

10:00

there, but I understand optically what you're saying, Alyssa,

10:02

about if you're sitting back after all the testimony,

10:04

there could be some biases that are under the

10:06

left. And that's what they're trying to do. I

10:08

think that defense, by the way, went too hard

10:10

on Stormy Daniels yesterday. They made her more credible.

10:12

They said to Maddie Westerhouse, you were 28 years

10:14

old when you made that mistake that got you

10:16

fired from the White House. We understand who it

10:18

was, yeah. Stormy was 27. Stormy was

10:20

27 when the encounter with the 60-year-old Donald

10:22

Trump happened. I didn't get it. Okay, come

10:24

on. So a couple of things. First, you

10:27

know, you talked about these two

10:29

women crying. Hope Hicks, who's very

10:31

poised, composed, and Madeline Westerhouse. Westerhouse,

10:33

Westerhouse. And to me, not

10:36

being there, but just reading about

10:38

it, it struck me, okay, these

10:40

are two women who have enduring

10:42

loyalty and sympathy towards Donald Trump.

10:44

They are sympathetic witnesses towards Donald

10:46

Trump. And the way I interpret,

10:48

why are these two women who are pretty

10:51

tough girls, who have been in the White House,

10:53

done all this, all of a sudden crying

10:55

on the stand? And what I kind of felt as

10:57

a person, not as a jury, because

11:00

they're saying things that are not reflecting

11:02

well on Donald Trump. And they are

11:04

crying because they feel bad that they

11:06

are making the case against him. And

11:08

that's the reason they're crying. That's the

11:10

answer. So to me, you know, that

11:12

was very significant. So Stormy Daniel,

11:14

I think they went way too hard on her because

11:16

I don't know, I don't know. But

11:19

let me just speak. I don't know how many

11:21

women there are that it resonated

11:23

with the way it did with me. But

11:25

I can tell you, I've been in rooms

11:27

with powerful men where

11:29

I think I'm showing up for a meeting and they're half

11:32

naked. And I think through me too. What's

11:34

the meaning for these? Yeah. The

11:37

same meetings that people have with Harvey

11:39

Weinstein, or with Bill Cosby, or with

11:41

Charlie Rose. Yeah. This is

11:43

not, I mean, I'm surprised you haven't had a meeting like that, that

11:46

somebody didn't say to you that you thought you were going to advance

11:48

your career to get mentorship. No, I never have. To

11:50

maybe have a business opportunity, you open the door and

11:52

the guy is half naked sitting on the bed. But

11:54

no one wants to see me naked, I guess. Well,

11:57

and so I think that this. This

12:00

resonates to me, I brought back all of the

12:02

me too issues. And the third thing I wanna

12:04

say, I hate to

12:06

say this guys, nobody is paying attention

12:08

and nobody is watching. Those jurors. No,

12:11

listen. And I was. What do you

12:13

mean? We're not adding. But what I'm saying is

12:15

in terms of the political

12:17

repercussions, right? Like I'm on planes all

12:20

the time. When the

12:22

Amber Heard Johnny Depp trial was going

12:25

on, I could see everybody on the

12:27

plane watching on their iPads and their

12:29

iPhones People were talking exactly because there

12:31

are no cameras there. We're having to

12:34

get dramatic readings

12:36

on legal. We need cameras

12:38

in the courtroom. We need cameras in the courtroom. But

12:40

guess what? It's not gonna happen. I'll be in the

12:42

courtroom every day. But can we

12:44

also just note that how

12:47

frustrating that this is the case we're getting before

12:49

the election. We're not getting a trial on the

12:51

average. I know, they're totally hurting the election. It's

12:53

terrible. People should not put up with that. But

12:55

let's remember, 71% of Americans have

12:57

said if he is convicted, he

12:59

should go to jail. You have another 50 something percent that, thank

13:02

you, he should go to jail. There

13:04

are another 50% of Americans that believe that

13:06

he is guilty of this. Do you think we'll

13:08

get jail time in this one? You know, I'm

13:10

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13:12

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further, Sunny has a legal note. We always

15:28

need them. Go ahead. We

15:31

need them. Trump has pleaded not guilty to

15:33

falsifying business records and has denied ever having

15:35

an affair with Stormy Daniels. Can

15:37

I say just one quick thing? The

15:40

one thing that was also interesting is

15:42

that Madeline went over all

15:44

of his important contacts, people that he called all

15:46

the time because she had to get a list.

15:49

I'm Brady, Janine Pirro,

15:51

Mika and Joe, Sean Hannity,

15:54

Mark Burnett, Michael Cohen,

15:56

Bill Belichick, David Pecker and

15:59

Alan Weisberg. And Serena Williams.

16:01

So what do you make of that list? Serena

16:03

Williams was a regular call? Serena,

16:05

I don't know. It was striking to me, the

16:07

people that... I mean Michael Cohen doesn't fit in

16:09

that list because he turned against him. Why didn't

16:11

he want to call? Why didn't he want to

16:13

call? These were people that he was calling in

16:16

2017. Oh. 2017,

16:18

those were his most important contacts. Okay, just to

16:20

be clear, I want to say one more thing.

16:22

Cameras aren't allowed in the courtroom, as you know.

16:24

That's the problem. So we had our own sketch

16:26

artist, Hallie Rosen and

16:29

Jason Kirshner documents

16:31

on the at the trial. We

16:33

have to say this because people actually think that

16:36

that comes from the courtroom, it does not. We

16:38

also did not have pop court. I did. They

16:40

were up there. I wanted it, but I didn't

16:42

have it. Okay, before we turn to Mother's Day,

16:45

we left on the last segment, I'm just curious what

16:47

you think. Is he going to go to jail? People

16:49

want to know what you think. You know, I really

16:51

think that he will be convicted. There are 32 counts

16:54

he'll be convicted of some of them, if not all

16:56

of them. I do believe that

16:58

he will appeal the conviction. I think it

17:00

will matter that he was convicted. And

17:02

I think he won't serve four years in prison, but I

17:04

can't imagine that he gets off with no jail time. I

17:07

think that would send the wrong message. I don't believe in

17:09

the case. I don't think he will. I don't think he

17:11

will. If I could just

17:13

mention, I want to be clear. I think

17:15

he will be convicted. My skepticism is that

17:18

I'm not sure they've proven

17:20

the case completely yet, but there's two more weeks

17:22

of this. We still haven't heard from their star

17:24

witness, Michael Cohen, so a lot could still happen.

17:26

Monday's gonna be a big deal, I think. I mean, I

17:30

don't know. I don't want to put all my eggs in the

17:32

basket. I guess I don't want to get my hopes up because

17:34

I've gotten my hopes up when it comes to Trump

17:37

so many times. I thought for sure that

17:39

when people listen to the acts of Hollywood

17:41

tape, they would turn on him and they

17:43

didn't. I think he's guilty

17:45

as can be. I think, you know, in

17:47

my eyes, but I realize I'm biased, right?

17:50

In my eyes, this has been absolutely

17:52

proven. And I think part of the

17:54

stupidity of Trump and his lawyers is

17:56

denying this affair, which I think anybody

17:58

and everybody was a brand. knows

18:00

happened and that's why they're having to go

18:02

into such salacious detail. But all

18:05

that being said, I'm not holding my breath that

18:07

he gets convicted. Yeah, I'm not holding my, well

18:09

I think he's guilty and I think he should

18:11

be. I don't think they'll hold him accountable in

18:14

the sense of serving any time. I don't, I

18:16

just, there's not a world I believe. I don't

18:18

see a president being in jail. There's a lot

18:20

of people who we all thought was, a lot

18:23

of people who we all thought were guilty that

18:25

didn't end up going to jail, right? I mean. Yeah,

18:28

but a lot of people did. His accountant, what's

18:30

his name? Weisselberg? He went to jail. He went

18:32

to jail. Yeah, it would send him to jail.

18:34

They don't understand that he broke the law but

18:36

he is above the law and I don't think.

18:38

No, he's not the first time you're feeling that

18:40

way. Because I think that's why we're all feeling

18:42

all the time. I think a conviction is different.

18:45

A lot of people felt that way about OJ

18:47

Simpson who was also a powerful, rich

18:49

celebrity. He ended up in jail. So I

18:51

mean, I guess this kind of, if the

18:53

condom don't fit, then you must acquit. Everybody!

18:55

Oh! Ha ha! Good

18:58

one, Anna. The

19:01

condom don't fit. Oh, he

19:04

didn't wear one. He is right. Okay.

19:07

You know they come in, sorry. I just wanna make

19:09

a transition to Mother's Day. Ha ha ha! Don't tell

19:11

me to, it's all right. Because you can say, mommy,

19:14

mommy. No, because the condom

19:16

didn't fit. That's why we have Mother's

19:18

Day. Ha ha ha! Anyway, Sunday is

19:20

Mother's Day and comedian Amy Schumer was

19:23

on the Kelly Corrigan Wonders podcast. Everyone

19:26

has a podcast. Talking about how

19:28

having kids made her realize that the

19:30

way she used to describe her mother could

19:33

easily apply to her. Now, watch.

19:36

I would have said loving,

19:39

narcissistic, and inconsistent. And

19:44

what do you have now, now that you're way

19:46

down at the other end of things with your

19:49

own kids? I can't say that

19:51

those three words would change that much. I

19:54

just have major empathy for all of

19:56

them and I see all

19:58

the same things in myself. or

20:01

know that the expectations and the

20:03

pressure we have for our moms

20:05

is, it's unrealistic.

20:09

Okay, so let's start with

20:11

Sarah. Yeah. How will you like your mother?

20:16

Effort, love, like all the things you start

20:18

with that your heart will rule the day

20:20

and it's imperfect and it's failed a lot

20:23

of times and then we get back up

20:25

again. I think time and being a mom

20:27

has given me a huge compassion for all

20:29

that my mom must have given up to

20:31

do this for four kids. My

20:33

sweet Louise is here with six kids

20:35

over here. So the sacrifices of moms

20:37

and it is exponential with each child

20:40

are huge. But I also see that I

20:42

now have an understanding that both my mom

20:44

and dad were kids at one point and they

20:46

had a certain pool box and they had a

20:49

certain childhood and they brought what they could, they

20:51

carried the ball as far as they could and

20:54

it was always done in love. And

20:56

so that's where I hope I'm like

20:58

them. I'll make mistakes. I'm not always

21:00

great at it, but I will come

21:02

in fully enthusiastic with a full heart.

21:04

Okay. Well, you're

21:06

looking at me. Look, my mom passed away

21:09

and I don't think I'm like my mom.

21:11

I think my mom was much better than

21:13

I am. Me too. She

21:15

was a better person. My mom always

21:18

put her family and her children first

21:20

with no agenda. And you know, I've

21:22

been reading, I've been listening to actually

21:24

Whoopi's book, Bits and Pieces, which is

21:27

fantastic. And it's about her relationship with

21:29

her mom and her brother. And

21:31

she says something in there that I think is very

21:33

good advice. And as we're going into Mother's Day, I'd

21:36

like to leave you with it, which

21:38

is don't leave anything left unsaid. Yeah.

21:41

Because if you say it, if you

21:43

put it out there, then

21:45

when they're gone, you don't feel the

21:47

regret. You don't feel the remorse. And

21:49

so don't leave it

21:52

unsaid. All right. I hit the lottery with my

21:54

mom. I will

21:56

say that I modeled my parenting off of her. She

21:58

had me at 18. Can

22:00

you imagine she gave up so much for

22:02

me, she sacrificed so much for me, she

22:04

was loving, she was giving, she was generous,

22:08

and remains that

22:10

same person. I mean, she lives with me

22:12

for the past almost 20 years. And

22:15

my dad, same thing, man, I hit the lottery.

22:17

You often say if you have a good mother,

22:19

you hit the lottery. I hit the lottery, I

22:21

did. I hit the lottery too. Everyone

22:23

hit the lottery in here. No, my mom, my mom. Wow,

22:26

yes. My mom

22:28

had been said about it. Kind and tough, and

22:30

I looking back, I'm like how, and I thought

22:32

about this reading Whoopi's book too, but how she

22:34

got everything done, because she was a single mom.

22:36

My dad lived on the other side of the

22:38

country and like working full time, but always showing

22:41

up, making every holiday feel special. Like I never

22:43

felt like she wasn't there, even though she was

22:45

working constantly. Same, yeah, same. Man, we

22:47

didn't have a lot of money, but we had a lot

22:49

of love. Well, and a big shout out to those who

22:51

have locked their moms, though Anna's not the only one. There's

22:53

so many people that the holidays, although you,

22:56

this holiday is very hard for, and so

22:58

just recognizing how this isn't a celebratory moment

23:00

for some, and that we hold you just

23:02

as tight, and know that you can borrow

23:05

our moms for a moment. Our

23:07

mothers were not perfect. We're not saying that.

23:09

I wouldn't say that, in other words, perfect,

23:11

but she was close in terms of unconditional

23:13

love. That's still an absolutely kiss. Just

23:16

give them unconditional love, and you're a good mother. But

23:19

I used to take for granted though, until

23:22

I got more

23:24

known that not everybody

23:26

has. No, they don't. Not everybody has a mom

23:28

that gives them unconditional love. Some women have competitive

23:30

mothers, which is something I do not get at

23:33

all. Some women have abusive mothers. Some women have

23:35

absent mothers. Some women have horrible, horrible mothers. And

23:37

so let's not take for granted that not everybody

23:39

has a good mother. And we'll do this on

23:41

Father's Day also. We'll be right back. Yeah.

23:44

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

23:47

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

23:50

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

23:52

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

23:55

Yeah. Before we continue, I

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wanted to wish happy birthday to Regina D'Chico.

24:00

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24:16

They're going to stormy Daniels. Right, exactly.

24:19

When they're half-dead, you get them up. The

24:22

jokes can you... They write themselves. So

24:25

in a recent interview with Howard Stern,

24:27

actress Kate Hudson was asked about possessing

24:29

certain unknown talents. What? You

24:32

can see dead people. You and your mother can see dead people,

24:35

right? I can see everything. When I was

24:37

a little girl, it was actually quite wild

24:39

because I would see ghosts all the

24:41

time. And yeah,

24:44

I was a little bit like, you know, the sixth

24:46

sense, like I see dead people. I was a little

24:48

bit like that when I was younger. We think we

24:50

should be all-knowing, but we're just not. And we'll

24:53

see it when we get there, but I think it's going to be...

24:56

...weir. But

24:59

beautiful. They usually have medication

25:01

for this, but... I

25:03

do know that Sunny thinks that she sees more

25:05

dead people than an undead maker. Totally, totally. Does

25:07

anyone else on this panel see dead people? I

25:10

believe in ghosts, but I've never seen one. And

25:12

don't come. I don't want to see a ghost,

25:14

but I do believe people see them. That wasn't

25:16

an invitation. No, I

25:18

do believe they always say kids and dogs.

25:20

Like, little babies, I feel like we

25:22

are kind of ruined throughout our lives. But

25:25

when you start, you have such a pure heart and a pure soul. And

25:27

obviously dogs do their whole lives. And

25:29

I think they see energies and lights, and I

25:31

don't know if they could always put words to it.

25:33

Are you trying to say that you see dead dogs? Do

25:36

I look like a child to you? I may act like one, but I'm

25:39

not. You mean dogs see...

25:41

Dogs, they say dogs the way they

25:43

react to energies, whether they're living or

25:45

pat... They're intuitive. I can believe that.

25:48

I believe that I saw ghosts when I was around seven, and

25:51

I believe that when my grand... Who was it? It

25:53

was... Did they introduce themselves? I saw something levitating, and

25:56

I don't know who it was. Were

25:58

you on a Ouija board? Well,

26:00

let me tell you something. I know

26:02

who better pray and hope that dogs

26:05

don't come back as ghosts? Kristi,

26:07

no. Kristi, no. Yeah. Oh, cricket.

26:09

But yeah, cricket. We're gonna see

26:11

the ghosts of cricket. You know, I think,

26:14

first, I think children have such

26:16

imaginations, right? Much more so probably

26:19

than most adults. But

26:21

also, I think the idea of ghosts

26:23

existing in a hereafter, some

26:25

may believe, and for some, I think it may

26:27

be a coping mechanism. I like the idea of

26:29

there's a guardian angel somewhere. There's, you know, they're

26:31

up there somewhere watching over me. Yeah, but

26:33

you kind of don't believe it. Well,

26:36

no, I don't. I mean, I want

26:38

to believe it. I believe it. I

26:40

was desperate to believe that Teresa

26:43

Caputo had seen everything. You

26:45

believed it when she said Prince was in the

26:47

audience? Everything she said. She said she saw Prince. I

26:50

don't think I did. And I said Edward? I

26:53

said Philip or the artist? It's possible

26:55

because Tamron Hall had a very close relationship

26:57

with Prince and she is right down the

26:59

hallway, okay? If you're telling me

27:02

my mother was hanging out with Prince in the

27:04

afterlife. Didn't Tamron Hall say she saw the word

27:06

murder on some of the heads? I think some

27:08

people are more intuitive. I really do believe that.

27:10

I've walked into rooms, I've never seen a ghost,

27:12

but where you felt an energy. I've been in

27:14

rooms I could not go back into. It can

27:16

really scare you. Or old houses, there have been

27:18

ones I've stepped foot in that I'm like, I

27:20

could never live here. I don't want to be

27:22

here. There's energies people pick up on. Yeah. I

27:25

don't think you can comprehend what comes next. I think

27:27

if you took a fetus in the womb and talked

27:29

about what this world looked like, they would not understand.

27:31

If you take us out of this world, I don't

27:33

think we can comprehend what it is. I don't believe

27:35

in ghosts at all. I believe in ghosting. But

27:38

not ghosts. You don't believe

27:40

it at all. And I live, I have a house

27:42

that's over 150 years old. But

27:44

yours might not be there. You know how people have

27:46

died in that house. I live in a hotel that

27:49

was supposed to, at the Biltmore Hotel in Coral Gables

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for a while, that was supposedly haunted. There was supposedly,

27:54

had seen, there had been

27:56

ghosts and Al Capone had been there. Nah,

27:59

lunga. You don't have a séance at your house,

28:01

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watch the kids podcast today and

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have a great day. Bitch,

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