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0:36

hindsight. New

0:39

RNC co-chair, Laura Trump, says that the

0:41

party's over claims of election tampering. The

0:43

past is the past and unfortunately we

0:45

had to learn a couple of hard

0:48

lessons in 2020. But

0:50

to reports that they're still asking

0:52

job applicants if they believe it

0:54

was stolen and candidate Trump's campaign

0:56

trail rhetoric show that they won't

0:58

let go of lying about the

1:00

past. The radical left Democrats

1:02

rigged the presidential election in 2020.

1:06

Then Zoe Saldana is live

1:08

to share how she and

1:10

her husband, director Marco Parego's

1:12

powerful new movie, The Absence

1:14

of Eden comes from a

1:16

very personal place. And

1:19

we're announcing which viewer is winning

1:21

a trip to the Disneyland resort

1:23

to celebrate Pixar Fest. Here

1:27

come hot topics with

1:30

Whoopi, Sarah

1:33

Haines, Anna

1:36

Navarro, Joy

1:39

Behar, Sunny

1:41

Hostin and

1:43

Alyssa Farah Griffin. Now

1:47

let's get things started. Welcome

2:21

to the world. Have a seat. Have

2:23

a seat. As the

2:25

2024 presidential election

2:27

heats up, the new

2:29

RNC co-chair, Lara Trump,

2:32

claims that the party is looking

2:34

ahead and putting the past behind

2:36

them. Take a look. Is

2:39

it going to be the position of the RNC in 2024 that the

2:41

2020 election was not fairly decided

2:44

or that it was stolen somehow? Well, I

2:47

think we're past that. I think that's in

2:49

the past. We learned a lot. Certainly, we

2:51

took a lot of notes. Right now, we

2:53

have 23 states that have 78 lawsuits in

2:55

these states to ensure that it is harder

2:57

to cheat and easier to vote. The past

2:59

is the past. And unfortunately, we had to

3:01

learn a couple of hard lessons in 2020.

3:05

Believe me, we are taking those. We are applying them all

3:07

across this country and every single state. And

3:10

we want to ensure that indeed every single

3:12

legal vote is counted. She

3:14

speaks out of both sides of her lips. Is

3:21

that one of

3:23

me? But

3:33

RNC job applicants

3:36

are reportedly claiming that they were

3:38

asked in their interviews if they

3:40

believed that the election was stolen. Not

3:43

to mention, you know, who is

3:45

still pushing this election fraud. B.S.

3:48

to this to this second. So

3:51

what is going on? What is

3:53

going on? I mean, this is

3:55

remarkable. And kudos to Josh Dossie, the Washington Post,

3:57

for breaking this story. So, yes, young people are

4:00

going in and interviewing, they fired 60 staffers

4:02

from the RNC, so now they're having to

4:04

re-staff up with Trump loyalists, and they're being

4:06

asked, was the election legitimately won? What they're

4:08

trying to do is have loyalists who are

4:11

willing to either lie, or they're so uninformed

4:13

that they think that it's true, run a

4:15

major party committee. But I'd actually say the

4:17

more dangerous thing is Trump is

4:19

also doing this as he looks for people

4:21

to be in his next administration. They're trying

4:23

to screen people out, they're saying they want

4:25

Tucker Carlson Republicans, not Ronald Reagan Republicans. Oh,

4:27

God. This just kind of made me sad,

4:30

because I worked in politics my whole

4:32

life. I remember coming up working for

4:34

very right-wing members during the Obama administration,

4:36

and we'd go to battle in over

4:38

policies with the Obama administration. Then at the

4:41

end of the day, the junior Obama staffers

4:43

and the junior Republican staffers would get drinks,

4:45

and we'd be like, we disagree, but we

4:47

believe in this country, and we have different

4:49

solutions on how to solve it. That era

4:51

is over, it is a zero-sum game that

4:53

you have to demonize the other side, you

4:55

have to believe lies in order to be

4:57

part of this Trump world. And

4:59

it's really, frankly, sad. And it's bled into every

5:01

part of our society and every institution.

5:03

And we've talked about this, when I

5:05

was at the Department of Justice, you

5:07

didn't know who was a Republican or

5:10

who was a Democrat, but you all

5:12

hung out together and drank at Haleos

5:14

in DC. So it's

5:16

just very odd to me, but the other thing that was

5:18

strange to me is, this is a, and

5:21

you would know the answer to this, I think, the

5:24

RNC, just like the DNC, is a 527 not-for-profit

5:27

tax-exempt corporation. And so, because

5:30

it gets public funding, it just seems

5:32

to me like there are certain questions

5:34

that you can't ask when you're interviewing.

5:36

Well, you can't ask, are you pregnant?

5:38

You can't ask, are you gay? You

5:40

can't ask, are you intending to

5:42

get pregnant? But can you ask, is the election stolen?

5:45

I wonder if you can ask that.

5:48

That's my point. I'm not for, you

5:50

would think he'd be tired

5:52

of getting charged with doing things,

5:54

but the other, but Lara Trubble?

5:58

I think it's kind of, right? I

6:00

think it's a little discriminatory, but that's

6:02

for other lawyers to figure out, because I only play

6:04

a lawyer on TV right now. So the

6:07

other thing that Laura Trump said in an

6:09

interview is that the RNC

6:11

doesn't plan to pay his

6:13

legal bills and

6:16

maintain that donors, when they do

6:18

donate, could opt out of contributing

6:20

funds for that if they

6:22

want to. But they are raising money

6:24

together, the Trump campaign and the

6:26

RNC, for his legal bills.

6:28

And again, is that legal? I

6:31

think it's a questionable, it's weird. Questions

6:36

in people's minds. Well, this is

6:39

gonna hurt down ballot Republicans huge,

6:41

because the RNC is supposed to

6:43

represent Republican candidates nationwide. You

6:45

have put your thumb on the scale as

6:47

to what school of thought you are. And

6:49

at this point, this litmus test is not

6:51

only bringing in people that know better about

6:53

the election, because we don't know many people

6:55

that I think still believe it

6:58

in political circles, that you're

7:00

asking people to say, just how far will

7:02

you go for this right now?

7:04

And I think there's a threat to all fundraising.

7:06

The RNC is supposed to be not only championing

7:09

campaigns, raising

7:11

money. You were mentioning the other day,

7:14

the discrepancy in fundraising, because they're not

7:16

able to fundraise. If you have people

7:18

that are scared they're gonna be paying

7:20

legal fees, you're now negating any fundraising

7:22

capabilities. So for Republicans around this country,

7:25

you are ensuring that only the ones that

7:27

run extreme campaigns, which have proven to be

7:29

losing campaigns. So I do, it just further

7:31

fractures the party. And I think it does

7:34

a huge disservice to more reasonable people that

7:36

are running as Republicans. Well, it just shows

7:38

you, the whole thing is gonna blow up

7:40

in their face. Every time he puts a

7:42

relative in charge, things go wrong.

7:44

That's true. I mean, they put Jared in charge

7:46

of the Middle East. We saw how well that

7:48

works out. And he put him in charge

7:50

of COVID, which we see how well that works

7:53

out. And now he has this one, who

7:55

really, not for nothing, not the brightest. And

7:58

they're gonna, He's broke, he doesn't have

8:01

the money. There aren't that

8:03

many people in this country who are going to

8:05

give him money. They know that he

8:07

is sitting on a gold toilet seat. And I think

8:09

there's a problem. I'm not sure about that, Joy, because

8:11

if you look at his donation. What, the gold's toilet

8:13

seat? No, the gold toilet seat. Oh, that you're sure about,

8:15

okay. We see pictures of that. With the bezze.

8:18

And you know it. I love bezze. You

8:20

know, the Save America, that leadership pack that

8:22

he's using the main vehicle to pay his

8:24

legal bills, they have spent more

8:26

than $72.5 million on legal expenses. That's

8:31

how amazing. For him. Since January 1st, 2021. And

8:34

most of those donations have come from

8:36

just regular people. Five dollar

8:38

donations, $10 donations. It's

8:40

taking advantage of people. What did it say the

8:42

other day? You can't have, what did it say?

8:44

You can't have an election. In a political season. In

8:46

the middle of a political season. That's what he

8:48

said. He's a good drive. Can I just say

8:50

real quick, what the RNC is doing is it's asking

8:52

you to check your integrity at the door. And life

8:55

is a series of choices. And

8:57

if you go in deciding, I'm gonna lie to get

8:59

here, those are the caliber of people you're gonna have

9:01

going. People who are willing to lie. Doesn't this remind

9:03

you of the 50s? When we, in

9:05

my day, when I was in high school,

9:08

the teachers have to take loyalty. Oh, they're

9:10

bringing us back to the 50s in so

9:12

many different ways. What was your loyalty to?

9:15

To the United States of America.

9:17

Remember we're coming in, we're coming off of the

9:19

communist. They

9:21

want to go back to pre-abortion days

9:24

when abortion was legal, when black people

9:26

had no rights. And now they want

9:28

to- And women were just, you

9:30

know, stay down on the back. Go back, go

9:32

back. Well, it's, you know- Don't let it happen. It's up

9:34

to the folks here, but this is what I need to

9:37

tell you about, because this is our

9:39

women history celebrations coming to a close.

9:41

And Sunny is going to tell us

9:43

about our final feature. Yes, thank

9:45

you, Whoopi. We are continuing to highlight

9:47

women who are taking on the vital

9:50

issues that impact all of us in

9:52

the upcoming presidential election. Take a look.

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Andrea Miller is a

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to fight for their voting rights. In

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mailing 14.3 million postcards, and

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sending 7 million text messages,

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totaling over 23 million

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voters contacted. In August

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14:00

Welcome back. We do want to note that

14:02

Senator Joe Lieberman passed away yesterday

14:04

at 82, who

14:07

co-founded the No Labels Party to

14:09

offer centralist alternatives to major party

14:11

candidates. No Label does not have

14:13

a candidate in the 2024 race,

14:17

but the third party candidate people seem

14:19

to be talking about right now is

14:22

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Reportedly,

14:24

you know, people

14:27

are saying, all the Democrats are gonna, he's

14:29

gonna take votes from Biden, and a

14:31

lot of Republicans are pushing that narrative

14:33

too, but I'm

14:35

not sure that that's so, but I'll ask

14:37

you all, what do you think of this

14:40

third party situation

14:42

or possibility? Well, I

14:44

also just want to say, send love and

14:46

well wishes to the Lieberman family. He was somebody

14:48

I greatly admired in politics. And I

14:50

think it feels like the end

14:52

of an era of centrism and trying to

14:54

prioritize working across the aisle. I feel like

14:56

we so often demonize moderation in this current

14:58

era, so he will be missed. But

15:01

on this third party, RFK has to be

15:03

taken seriously, even though I think his beliefs

15:05

are out there, there are some of them

15:07

are very dangerous, some of the anti-Zach sentiment,

15:09

but he has money, he's organizing, he is

15:11

on the ballot in a number of key

15:14

battleground states, including Nevada, two battleground states.

15:16

But we know this, we know it

15:18

from 2016, Jill Stein

15:20

alone was enough to keep Hillary Clinton from

15:22

winning in Michigan and change the course of

15:24

the election. I think it's an

15:26

open question who he takes more votes from and

15:28

you see kind of people pointing fingers right now.

15:30

Trump world is saying he's a left-wing liberal so

15:32

that right-wingers won't be

15:34

supporting him. Yes, but Democrats are also

15:36

organizing and they've hired some smart operatives

15:38

to start challenging him on the left.

15:40

I think it's very much an open

15:42

question. Trump's trying the reverse psychology of

15:44

saying, like, I think it's great, he's

15:47

running. And do you remember when Putin

15:49

said, I really prefer a Biden presidency?

15:51

You know, like, they're trying to, he's

15:53

flip-flopping on this, but I think he

15:55

might appeal more to Trump. You

15:58

think so? Yeah. Because some of his pay... R.F.K.

16:00

Jr., I think, strangely line

16:02

up almost more with Donald Trump's, and

16:04

he's got that he's a kind of

16:07

personality figure that they like. And

16:09

I don't know. I feel like that's going to potentially

16:11

hurt Trump more. Somebody has to ask him, why

16:14

are you doing this? Why do you

16:16

want to destroy the election and hand it to Trump,

16:18

if possible? Yeah, but I mean, he's a Kennedy. His

16:22

forefathers are rolling over in their graves with

16:24

this. His own family is telling people. But

16:26

a lot of people... We already have one

16:28

clown in the race. Do we need two

16:30

of them? But a lot of people, including

16:33

myself, believe in time. There

16:35

is space for a third party. So I

16:37

tend to think that people that take this

16:39

on aren't coming at it like, I'm

16:41

going to ruin the election for everyone. I truly

16:43

think they believe there's a lane to try to

16:45

create something. I just don't think it's this election.

16:48

I think many times delusion has destroyed a country.

16:50

And that's what we're dealing with here with it.

16:52

The polls are too close, even though you don't

16:54

believe in them. I don't. I know,

16:56

Whoopi. That's why I

16:58

don't believe in them. I think they're slightly

17:01

ahead. And it's only, what are we, April

17:03

now? March, whatever. Yeah, April. Pretty soon, people

17:05

are starting to focus and they'll realize the

17:07

danger that Trump poses. I believe that. But,

17:09

you know, I'm not a religious person, but

17:11

I'm making a novena thing. Oh, he's actually going to

17:13

answer. And it's good because it's Holy Week. It's Holy

17:15

Week. So it's a very good time for that, Joy.

17:17

Yeah. You know, I don't know.

17:19

I think we do need to look at history

17:21

and his past can become prologue if you ignore

17:24

history. And historically, as Alyssa

17:26

pointed out, third... And you pointed it

17:28

out too, Joy. Third-party candidates

17:30

are often spoilers. Ralph Nader, Bill

17:32

Stein. Ralph Nader, Jill Stein. They

17:35

spoil. And so while... Depending on

17:37

which side, though, the spoilers. I'm just saying spoilers

17:39

are well-lit to H.W. Bush. Yes,

17:41

spoilers across the board. So I think

17:43

it is an open question, but it

17:45

is a question that we must take

17:47

very seriously because, again, these aren't even

17:49

polls. This is just history. And so

17:52

I think, to Sarah's point, that, yes,

17:54

maybe there is time... Maybe

17:56

there is a place for a third

17:58

party because Joe Lieberman, who... I think

18:00

we all admired was gonna run with John

18:04

McCain. They were good friends,

18:06

they were partisan friends. Joe

18:09

Lieberman was involved in the third party

18:11

label. So I think there's some heft

18:13

there. But again, if past

18:15

becomes prologue, this is gonna be a problem for

18:17

one of these candidates. How do you think him

18:19

seriously though? Because like, are you checking in? I

18:21

don't- People are taking Trump seriously. How do you

18:24

take RFK's- But I don't know who his little-

18:26

RFK is doing running, and I hate him, credit

18:28

a more sophisticated campaign than we think. We hear

18:30

the anti-vax stuff and that to us, we shut

18:32

down. If you look at his social media, he's

18:35

talking to working class voters saying, we need to

18:37

use our needs. He's talking about border security. His

18:39

message does lean right of center, but polls, which

18:41

we can be skeptical of, show him in the

18:43

race, he helps boost Donald Trump to beat Joe Biden

18:45

in the margin of error. Didn't he just

18:48

choose a billionaire vice president who

18:52

can now help him get on the

18:54

ballots in different states and

18:56

battleground states? Well, here's the thing. That's

18:58

pretty smart. Well, it's one

19:00

more bad message for folks that says

19:02

you can buy the election. Yeah,

19:05

that's right. It's another, you know,

19:07

there's so many messages here that

19:11

keep in mind what you're hearing. You're

19:14

not supposed to be able to buy a message.

19:16

You're not supposed to be able to buy an

19:18

election. Buy your way onto a ballot. You're not

19:20

supposed to be able to do that. And so

19:22

many things are shit though. But you right

19:25

now have to explain this. Oh, I

19:27

have a legal note. RFK

19:30

Jr. denies that he is

19:32

anti-vax. What? That's

19:34

his whole thing. But

19:38

before we go. I can't believe

19:40

it. We also wanna honor the

19:43

fall in New York City Police Officer

19:45

John Contilla. The first day of his

19:47

wake is today. And again, our thoughts

19:49

and prayers are with his family. Yeah,

19:51

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everybody needs a girlfriend. So

21:14

a guy working out his jealousy

21:16

issues told his story already. He

21:19

was at a wedding with his wife last

21:21

year and a very attractive man asked his

21:23

wife to dance. The husband

21:25

said, go ahead. But then got

21:28

secretly jealous. About a year

21:30

later, his friends at his

21:32

friend's wedding, he slow

21:35

danced with his ex-girlfriend to

21:37

make his present wife jealous.

21:40

You follow her name? Yeah. Okay. We

21:42

gotcha. He

21:44

then realized he went too far. Yeah.

21:47

He feels awful. And since

21:49

he's getting help with

21:52

his jealousy issues right now, there's

21:55

anyone else at the table. Have

22:01

any issues like that at

22:03

the table. Just the table. Where

22:06

do I begin? You

22:09

know, listen. The

22:11

wife, he asked his wife

22:13

permission to fast dance. Okay,

22:15

fast dance. Right. That's

22:17

fine. What are you talking about? She's doing well.

22:19

The first dance that he had

22:21

with someone, was a fast, she had with

22:24

someone, I'm sorry, was a fast dance. Yeah.

22:27

Apparently, his dance with his ex, who

22:29

he has seen naked, was

22:31

slow, flexibly. You don't know that you've

22:34

seen her naked. We don't know that. We don't

22:36

know that. We don't know that. We don't know

22:38

who they are. We don't know. The second

22:40

one is doing the horizontal cha-cha. Yes,

22:42

they're doing this. And apparently, there was

22:45

a lot of close physical contact, especially

22:47

during this close dance. Which

22:50

he admits was... Are you itchy right now? He's

22:53

telling you that. Is that why you're moving

22:55

around like that? Because you'll be doing this.

22:57

It was probably inappropriate. Yes,

22:59

it was. There's no

23:01

comparison between the two. Oh, no. And

23:05

the problem he made was, it wasn't about

23:07

the jealousy. He should have spoken

23:09

up. If

23:11

he had a, if he let his wife dance

23:13

with, which I think you should. It was a fast dance. It

23:15

was fast, it was social, it was fun. She doesn't know the

23:18

guy. Later, if he was feeling insecure, that's what

23:20

you tell your partner. That made me feel insecure. He held onto

23:22

it for a year. And

23:25

then went and sought out his ex-girlfriend, exchanged

23:28

numbers, and then started contacting, and then reassured us

23:30

by posting again, don't worry, I cut off contacts.

23:32

Boo, we didn't know you were contacting. After

23:35

the dance. Oh, wait, sex, also, also, one dance

23:37

is one thing. At weddings, I'll dance with my

23:40

friend's husband. One dance. It's that

23:42

they were dancing the night away, he and the ex.

23:44

They were slow dancing, they were fast dancing. A

23:47

long time goes by, the wife ends up in tears, and

23:49

he doesn't even realize it. That is not allowed. And

23:52

it's the am I a jerk question? Yes,

23:54

sir, you are. Yes. What

23:58

you said before about it. Well, I just think... Either

24:00

you trust your man or you don't. Right. Yeah.

24:03

Because one slow dance does

24:06

not a relationship destroy. Correct.

24:11

If you are partying with that, see

24:13

it's really in context. If you're partying

24:15

with somebody who is not your partner

24:18

and you don't tell them, that's an

24:20

issue. Well, the text message is back

24:22

and forth afterwards. Well, then there is

24:25

an issue there. There's an issue there.

24:27

But do you just assume your man

24:29

is going to do that? You

24:32

would hope not, but he did it. So he kept it up.

24:34

I think they're young. They're two years into their marriage. I think

24:36

it's an immature. I was gonna say, when you get old, the

24:38

knees are bad. You don't care anymore. Well, I'm not mad. Because

24:43

I personally don't wanna care what you say.

24:46

But that's just me. We'll be right

24:48

back. Welcome

25:02

back to Pisaar, her

25:05

latest movie Absence of Eden is also

25:07

a family affair. Her husband,

25:10

Marco Parego, co-wrote

25:13

and directs her powerful performance

25:16

as an undocumented

25:19

immigrant fighting to survive at the

25:21

US Mexican border. Take a look.

25:24

We come here, plant

25:27

your seeds with our dirty hands,

25:30

and then we help them

25:32

grow while you get to put your feet

25:34

up. Your

25:37

crops, your children,

25:40

your future. We

25:45

make it all grow. What

25:49

do you do? You just

25:51

take it. Take

25:53

it. It's new. Well,

25:57

I don't. He's

26:01

dead because you can't wait. His

26:07

welcome, Theresa Daniel and Marco

26:09

Paredes. music Hi.

26:29

It's been awhile. Yeah,

26:32

nice to see you. Nice, now.

26:35

But I have to ask you, because,

26:38

you know, for years we

26:40

tried to explain to people what

26:43

homelessness in America is. And

26:46

you are... This film really heightens what

26:49

it's like to be homeless in America as

26:51

a woman, coming in,

26:53

trying to get your life together. Why...

26:58

Why now the movie, and

27:00

why this part? Mm. I

27:03

would say. You. Okay. In

27:06

2016, I did this

27:09

sculpture, this installation piece. And

27:12

so many children lost their life between to go to

27:15

Syria to Italy. And 114 children

27:17

lost their life. And I collected

27:19

a 114 pair of shoes, little

27:21

children, full of concrete. And

27:23

I put in this big, big, like, museum.

27:26

And from that time, I want to use

27:28

another tools like cinema, because you reach more

27:30

people, and we can have more conversation about

27:32

humanity. And I felt that the border was

27:34

a great place to create a romantic story,

27:37

but talk about big issue about humanity. And,

27:40

by the way, thank you for highlighting

27:42

the Syrian refugee crisis. Yeah. Thank you

27:44

so much. You mean a lot. And

27:46

Zoe, what attracted you to this role

27:48

of playing an undocumented migrant at this

27:50

time? I mean, two very important things.

27:53

One, supporting my husband and

27:55

being a partner, not just in life,

27:57

but also in art, means

27:59

everything. because he's

28:01

the same towards me. He

28:05

wrote a very compelling story out of all

28:07

the subjects that he can choose as his

28:09

first film piece. He chose immigration. He's an

28:11

immigrant from Italy. I'm a daughter of immigrants.

28:13

My grandmother arrived here in 1961 in

28:16

New York City, running

28:18

from a tyranny of a

28:21

dictatorship in Dominican Republic, and she

28:23

knew freedom in the U.S. and

28:26

made sure that we grew up

28:28

always feeling absolutely patriotic, absolutely responsible,

28:31

and proud to be Americans, in

28:34

addition to being proud of our

28:36

mother roots. And

28:38

so this film is,

28:41

the second reason is because of her. And

28:44

fortunately, a month before we began shooting,

28:46

she lost her battle with cancer, but

28:49

she was a part of, thank you

28:51

guys, she was a part of the

28:53

whole journey. I mean, she was always our enabler, our

28:57

partner in crime. When she met Marco, he

28:59

became her son, her

29:01

grandchild as well. So she

29:03

was always our champion with everything that

29:05

we did. So Marco dedicated the film

29:08

to her to our Winnie Duck. I love that. So

29:12

you've dedicated this to this film. Tell

29:14

us about that. I

29:16

dedicate because I'm an immigrant. I'm

29:19

an immigrant, and my wife is first time

29:21

generation Latino. I have three boys, three

29:23

they look like my wife and one look like

29:25

my family. Well,

29:28

they can't go wrong with either one. Yeah,

29:31

they can. And the idea was...

29:33

Oh, look at those teeth. Are

29:36

you still a citizen of Italy? Yeah,

29:38

now I'm an American citizen. Green

29:41

card when I married Zoe with a sex dinner.

29:45

And the idea to dedicate

29:47

to her was about because she

29:49

was a very important woman, did a

29:51

sacrifice when you, what I think every

29:53

immigrant does, jumping down the line, you

29:55

know, and they think in

29:57

the coming year and everything would be much better.

29:59

place for them. The movie was about to try

30:02

to tell a story on both sides. For

30:04

the first time, the orange shows not just black

30:06

and white but gray because life is about gray,

30:09

you know, as long as one color than another,

30:11

you know. And that was the movie about the

30:13

film. Most of the time. Sometimes it's black

30:15

and white. But the

30:17

idea is about the complexity of a human being. It

30:19

was not a political film. It was just about understanding

30:22

how people really are and

30:25

the obligation they have and what they're feeling

30:27

in this situation on the border. Now,

30:30

Zoe, you said you are

30:32

proud Latina and also proud to be

30:35

Afro-Caribbean. And you

30:37

hope that the film challenges the negative

30:39

portrayals of Latinos that we sometimes see,

30:41

well, oftentimes see in the media. Right?

30:44

What do you want people to know

30:46

about what value the Latino community brings?

30:50

Oh, my gosh. I mean, you can pick an

30:52

angle when it comes to the contributions to the

30:56

very fabric of our nation. Latinos

30:58

have been here as local natives

31:00

for a very long time. You

31:03

know, right now and for

31:06

the last decade, at least,

31:09

you know, Latinos have been over indexing

31:11

in their college enrollments and mortgages and

31:14

starting their own businesses. Also,

31:16

they support both their households, their

31:18

own and their folks as well, because

31:20

we are known as a culture that takes care of our

31:23

elders. And

31:25

I think it's about time like where voters,

31:27

our sons go to war, you

31:29

know, for America. And I think it's

31:31

important that we just add a

31:34

little bit more to broaden that

31:36

narrative. Not

31:41

eliminate the one that exists. It's always

31:43

going to be there. It's always going

31:45

to be sensational and negative. But I

31:47

think broadening it will make it more

31:49

accurate when we're depicting people today that

31:51

support the very fabric of our nation.

31:53

And Latinos are the fastest-growing minority group

31:55

and the most marginalized according to its

31:57

size and growth. So I think that's

31:59

a great question. that these are important things

32:01

to understand. The Italian culture

32:03

is very similar to what you're describing. Super similar.

32:06

I can see where the match came. Oh my

32:08

God, yeah. Very good. Family origins, take care of

32:10

the old people. All of that, yeah. Do

32:13

you both speak each other's native

32:15

languages? That's fair. Beautiful. Well, another

32:17

match that made you perfect for

32:20

another role you played was in From

32:22

Scratch. Because I know you,

32:24

part of, I think, Reese's decision to pick

32:26

you was. Oh, because of, yes. We

32:28

had a dinner and she was just like, oh

32:30

my God, they remind me of these characters in this book. Yes,

32:34

but it was interesting because Marco's from

32:36

Lake Garda or like he says, Lake

32:39

of Garda. The

32:43

story that Tambiloc wrote is from Sicily.

32:45

And Sicily, even when you're in Italy,

32:48

Sicily is like a different country. It's a

32:51

whole different language, different culture, different

32:53

food. You can't even tell Sicilians

32:55

that they speak a dialect. They're like, no,

32:57

we speak our own language. What

33:00

a marvelous culture. So

33:02

learning about them, I felt

33:04

like I was rediscovering Italy for the very

33:07

first time. Well, a marvelous performance because the

33:09

layers that are that serious hit in so

33:11

many, there was a reason it was the

33:13

top of the charts internationally for months. I

33:15

mean, you were brilliant and that's how I

33:18

will always think of you. So I'm not

33:20

taking it off the topic, but really bravo.

33:23

It was wonderful. Another incredible accomplishment

33:25

of yours, Zoe, is you've been in

33:27

classics like Avatar, you

33:30

have the distinction of being the only actor in

33:32

history to have starred in four films that grossed

33:34

over $2 billion. Which is just crazy.

33:38

Congratulations. Are

33:42

there rumors that there may be a

33:44

Star Trek movie moving forward? Is there

33:46

anything you're able to share? I'm excited.

33:48

Maybe. Just

33:51

a little. Just a little. Don't tip your hand

33:53

yet. So what now? Don't

33:56

tip your hand yet. Don't tell them we got the job.

33:58

Yes. Okay, did you get

34:01

the job? For

34:03

Star Trek? Oh my God. What

34:06

is happening right now? We

34:08

do this all day our days. I

34:11

have no other work. I'm

34:13

trying to get home to Sardinia. I'm

34:16

just, I'm just. I don't know. I don't know. Do

34:18

you have it or doesn't you? I don't know. Zoe, is

34:20

there anything you're able to share about can

34:22

you have there anything? No, no, I mean,

34:25

I just found out, you know,

34:27

just as simultaneously with you guys that they

34:29

hired a new writer and they're working on

34:31

a fourth script. I would love to go

34:33

back. It was a wonderful experience getting

34:36

to incarnate these characters as part

34:38

of such a legendary show that

34:41

marked people's lives and it continues to

34:43

do that. And I

34:45

love to be in space, you guys. I love her, don't get

34:47

me wrong, but I love to be in space. I'm

34:49

just really in space. As long as

34:52

you can get home for dinner. Exactly,

34:54

all the time. This is always great. You know

34:56

what? It's such a pleasure to have you here.

34:59

I'm glad to have the both of you here. Really beautifully

35:01

done. The work was beautifully done. Access

35:05

of Eden will be in theaters April

35:07

12th and we will be right

35:09

back. I encourage you to go see it. It's

35:12

worth it. Beyonce's

35:24

conquering country. My family loves

35:26

Beyonce. Adloy Carter comes

35:28

into the world at a very

35:31

complex time. People are saying, that's

35:33

not his family. I'm gonna turn this.

35:35

Just because you're saying hip hop music with

35:38

a country accent does not make you country

35:40

music. The stay in your lane, the,

35:42

well that's not real country. It takes

35:44

somebody who is at superstar status to

35:46

do something that shakes it all

35:48

up. It's Beyonce country. This is

35:50

Impact by Nightline, now streaming on

35:52

Hulu. We're

35:57

on the back. Apparently,

36:02

there are so many women who

36:04

are unable to interpret the emotions

36:06

of the men they're with that

36:08

there's a new term for it. It's

36:12

called hermeneutic labor.

36:15

Hermeneutic. That's

36:17

what it supposedly means now, and it's

36:20

the process of trying to decipher how

36:22

a man is really feeling emotionally, because

36:25

no point in just asking him. But

36:29

what if you ask them and they just like, you

36:32

still don't understand it? Go on with your business. I

36:35

spent years of my 20s trying to interpret

36:38

what men meant, and then I met my

36:40

husband who's actually a good communicator and realized

36:42

that maybe just those men were being like

36:44

difficult and not communicating and not telling what

36:46

they actually feel because they didn't care enough

36:49

to. So my advice, Mary, a good communicator.

36:51

I also learned communicating with different energies, so

36:53

you might imagine knowing me here

36:55

that I'm a high energy communicator, a lot

36:57

of hands and emotions. A caffeine. That

37:00

too. A lot of caffeine in the morning. Max is

37:02

really here, and I realize we do our best

37:04

communicating if I can just bring myself down

37:06

to here, and I can say the same

37:08

exact things, but if I don't spark that,

37:10

oh my God, here she goes, he stays.

37:12

He stays. You hit a high

37:14

pitch, they're out. The problem is that it's

37:16

hard to really access their inner life, because

37:20

they're not really so effusive

37:22

about how it feels. Exactly. We're

37:24

also attracted to the strong silent

37:26

type, and they've kept it going,

37:28

I think. It's hard

37:30

to access. They don't want to talk the way women do. Then

37:33

why are you spending all that time trying

37:35

to find out what's going on with them?

37:37

We're not. We're not about to listen. We're

37:39

not really spending it. I want to know. You know what? If

37:42

I ask you what's wrong, you know me nothing. I'm out. That's

37:44

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37:46

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