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now. Unbound and

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gagged. Former President Trump reposts

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a violent image of President

0:40

Biden hog-tied and defies court

0:42

gag orders by lashing out

0:44

at a judge and his

0:47

daughter. Could his unhinged

0:49

words lead to dangerous actions?

0:53

Easter egg witch hunt? Did some

0:55

conservative politicians and media pundits knowingly

0:57

mislead Americans about Easter at the

0:59

White House and Transgender Day of

1:01

Visibility? They clearly want us to

1:04

bow at the altar of the

1:06

trans community instead of bow to

1:08

God. Then, Valerie Bertinelli

1:11

is indulging the co-host with

1:13

some hot and delish dish.

1:15

Plus, Iniqua Martin Green and

1:18

Wilson Cruz talk about reaching

1:20

the final frontier of

1:22

Star Trek Discovery. Here

1:25

come hot topics

1:28

with Whoopi, Sarah

1:32

Haines, Inna

1:35

Navarro, Joy

1:37

Behar, Dunny

1:40

Hostin, and

1:42

Alyssa Thera Griffin. Now,

1:45

let's get things started. Well,

2:07

hello,

2:12

hello,

2:17

hello, hello,

2:21

hello,

2:24

well, let's get right to it.

2:26

You know who spent the most

2:28

sacred weekend on the Catholic calendar

2:30

posting rants about the judge in

2:33

his New York fraud case, making

2:35

false claims about the judge's daughter

2:37

and reposting a violent

2:39

image of President Biden that

2:41

we are not going to show you here

2:44

today. These rants violate

2:46

the court's gag order. So

2:49

why does he keep getting away with it? I mean, that

2:52

image is so violent. What's the difference between what

2:54

Kathy Griffith did and what he did? I

2:56

don't understand. Well, I mean, she's

2:59

a comedian. She

3:03

did what she does as a comic, but

3:05

are the Secret

3:08

Service going to be visiting him and

3:10

giving him a warning about putting

3:12

violent imagery? Well, they should.

3:15

Why wouldn't everyone should be treated equally under

3:17

the law? We keep saying that. And we

3:19

keep on saying that. And that really is true. And that's

3:21

why I was supportive of the bond that he

3:24

got being sort of speaking to

3:26

us. The lights are flickering.

3:28

Does anybody else see the lights flickering? Yeah.

3:31

I was very supportive of the fact that his that

3:34

his bond. Did you do anything bad this weekend with

3:36

me? What's

3:38

going on? I

3:40

was very supportive of the fact that the bond

3:42

was lowered because I think that that's how you

3:44

would treat everyone equally. You know,

3:47

bonds are supposed to not be punitive.

3:49

But I will say this, you

3:51

know, Trump has given people permission,

3:54

license to be politically violent.

3:57

And this is from the very, very beginning. He

3:59

was carrying. campaigning for the presidency. He

4:01

even said, I think, somewhere, you know,

4:04

if you find him, you know, hurt

4:06

that person, punch them, punch

4:09

the hell out of them, and I will

4:11

pay for it. I will pay for your

4:13

defense. And so what we're missing now is

4:15

this, the statesmanship that I think

4:17

we're, we've always been used to, you

4:19

know, the presidential office being above reproach.

4:21

We're missing, in my opinion, the

4:23

Obama statesmanship. We're missing the Clinton

4:26

statesmanship. We're, we're, the Hillary Clinton

4:28

statesmanship. And it's,

4:30

it's, it's behavior that seems to

4:33

come from the top down. People

4:35

are saying, well, it's the January

4:37

6 folks. It's even worse

4:40

when it comes from the president or the

4:42

potential president of the United States of America.

4:45

So it seems to me, if you know

4:48

history, political violence precedes

4:50

a fascist dictatorship. I mean,

4:52

just look at World War II and you'll see

4:54

the Nazi thugs were beating up Jews in

4:56

the street and everybody just

4:58

looked the other way. And then we

5:00

had Hitler and millions of people were

5:02

killed. I'm not saying that's going to

5:05

happen here, but I'm just saying that

5:07

there's political violence does precede a fascist

5:09

country. I want to just point out

5:11

something about RFK Jr., if I may,

5:13

because what you have of these enablers,

5:15

and he's very dangerous. He was on

5:17

Aaron Burnett the other night. Watch this

5:20

tape. When people talk

5:22

about the threat to democracy that

5:24

Trump poses, do you really think

5:26

that is, is it equal? Yeah.

5:29

Listen, I can make the argument

5:31

that President Biden is a much

5:33

worse threat to democracy. And the

5:36

reason for that is President Biden

5:38

is the first candidate in history,

5:40

the first president in history that

5:42

has used the federal agencies to

5:44

censor political speech. So to censor

5:46

his opponent. Because,

5:49

because Biden doesn't say he's

5:51

the first person in political,

5:53

where has he been? He's a stylist at the phone. You

5:55

think he would know history since he had a senator's

5:57

family. Well, one would think, you would think. But, go

5:59

ahead. First of all, he's a threat,

6:01

I think, more to Biden, just because

6:04

of his name. That people out

6:06

there, you know, they're not really looking into things. I

6:08

think they think, oh, Kennedy, Democrat, yeah, vote for him.

6:10

Meanwhile, he's a conspiracy theorist.

6:13

He's anti-science. His whole family

6:15

is voting for Biden. And

6:18

this type of dangerous rhetoric that Biden is

6:20

a bigger threat to democracy than the man

6:22

who wanted to throw over the government. Overthrow

6:24

the government. He's not wrong in what he's

6:26

saying. So he's talking about the First Amendment,

6:29

it being the most important one, and

6:31

that someone's squashing speech on social

6:33

media. President

6:35

Biden is not responsible for private social

6:37

media companies. The First Amendment is for

6:39

the government. It is not applying

6:42

necessarily to private companies who decide to ban

6:44

you. And this is a man that

6:46

the reason they finally took him off of the

6:48

different, I don't know which one specifically, I think

6:50

it was Instagram, was he kept

6:52

shopping around these debunked who

6:55

got taken off. Our time has taken off. That's

6:58

why he's mad at Biden, although he

7:00

should be mad at Instagram. But he

7:02

got mad because he said that he

7:04

kept repeating some studies and things that

7:06

had been debunked and yet

7:09

related to public health, related to public health

7:11

during a pandemic. But he also then will

7:14

lie about that in every interview he

7:16

does. So when people say you're it's

7:18

not just anti the vaccine now, COVID-19,

7:21

you literally in multiple interviews ask people

7:23

to approach strangers with babies and tell

7:25

them don't get that baby vaccinated because

7:28

if 10 of us say it, eventually

7:30

it might land. So then when asked

7:32

about that, then you're an anti-vaxxer.

7:34

No, I am not that. I never said that. So

7:37

this man is like he's so inconsistent, inaccurate,

7:39

and he's pointing the finger at the wrong

7:41

person in that interview. Well, it's a liar.

7:44

And Erin Burnett rightly played an

7:46

answer from one of his direct relatives criticizing

7:48

him running and saying he's not aligned with

7:50

the Kennedy message. But I was thinking about

7:52

I spent the weekend in Florida, deep red

7:55

Florida. Everyone I was hearing from was Trump's

7:57

going to win. Trump's going to win. What

8:00

got me thinking is this, I believe this

8:02

will be a close election. John Karl recline, our analysts

8:04

have said it will be close. But what will

8:06

lose Trump this election? I don't think it's abortion. I

8:08

don't think it's the democracy argument. I think it

8:10

is his rhetoric and lack of impulse control because right

8:13

now voters are kind of tuning it out, but

8:15

they're starting to tuning so they know we're in an

8:17

election cycle. Don't they like his rhetoric though? No, most

8:19

voters, that's why he lost in 2020. It's

8:21

the moderates and independents, not the 30%

8:24

who are never leaving him. Because this

8:26

past week he had a brief good

8:28

political moment for a Republican. He

8:30

attended a slain NYPD officer's funeral

8:32

to juxtapose what he was claiming

8:34

is Biden hobnobbing with celebrities. Choose

8:36

what you like there, but for

8:38

Republicans it was good imagery. Really?

8:40

One day later, yes. And

8:43

I'm asking that because I was

8:45

so offended. I don't-

8:47

Because this meant, because you know who showed

8:49

up. And he was, whether he

8:51

was asked or not. This is

8:53

a man who didn't care what happened

8:56

to the officers on January 6th. Brian

8:58

Sicknick, and exactly. That is awesome. And

9:01

just to finish the point, I was going to

9:03

say this is my point here. I'm sorry. For

9:06

his base, those were smart optics, but he

9:08

steps on it a minute later by tweeting

9:10

out this offensive, dangerous photo of Joe Biden.

9:13

Any child would see that and be like,

9:15

ooh, mommy, that's not something I should share.

9:17

He lacks the most basic instincts around impulse

9:19

control, and I think that's gonna hurt him

9:21

the closer he gets to election. Well, and

9:23

he seems to be a very violent person.

9:26

He has violent tendencies, or at least he

9:28

portrays himself to be violent. Most bullies really

9:30

won't win a fight, but he is certainly

9:32

a bully, and it's despicable.

9:34

I think you have a point, and

9:36

I think that as the weeks go on now,

9:38

and the months go on, and the more he's

9:40

on TV, he can barely put a sentence together

9:42

anymore. People are gonna start to see that he's

9:44

over it. The average, thank you, but

9:46

my point was the average American may not be paying attention

9:48

to every crazy thing he's saying, but the more attention it

9:51

gets closer to the election. But that's why, why do you

9:53

say John Cawron, the rest of them are saying he's gonna

9:55

win, or in Florida, we're all gonna know. No, no. They're

9:57

saying it's gonna be a close. Who doesn't have a big twirl, so.

10:00

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10:02

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10:04

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10:09

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14:00

This week, the view is serving

14:02

up red hot topics, and Chef

14:05

Michael Simon is serving up some

14:07

delicious dishes for you to make

14:09

too. Plus, Jesse Eisenberg and Elizabeth

14:11

Harley with her son Damien, all

14:14

on ABC's The View. What's the

14:16

name of the... Yeah.

14:23

Okay, what's the... There

14:26

was a kid named Brooklyn. Oh,

14:28

that's Beckham. Thank you. And there you go. I

14:30

believe there's a kid named Bronx. Brooklyn, yes, I

14:32

knew that. Brooklyn and Bronx. Find the burrows and

14:35

the families you know. So

14:38

apparently, March 31st, I don't

14:40

know whether you all are aware of this, has

14:43

been designated as a Transgender Day

14:45

of Visibility since 2009. Okay? This

14:50

year... This

14:55

year, it happened to coincide with

14:57

Easter Sunday. So cue the pearl

14:59

clutching from the conservative meeting.

15:03

Clip. This is a clear

15:06

effort and a coordinated effort to remove God

15:08

from our society and to replace God with

15:10

false gods, and in this instance, it's a

15:12

trans community. They clearly want us to bow

15:14

at the altar of the trans community instead

15:16

of bow to God. If you have

15:18

a whole calendar, 365 days of the

15:20

year, and the transgender

15:22

community purposely chooses

15:26

the day of Jesus' death or

15:28

His resurrection, whatever Easter weekend, that

15:32

seems like a shot, a

15:35

purposeful shot. If you're going to

15:37

commemorate godlessness, at least have some

15:39

respect for Christians and

15:41

wait to do so another day. The

15:43

left already celebrates godlessness 24-7 anyway,

15:45

so an internationally designated

15:48

day, week, or month is, frankly,

15:51

redundant. The fact that you're saying this

15:53

to the most Catholic president we've had

15:55

in years... Yeah, the most

15:57

great candidate is extraordinary.

16:01

And Republican officials like Ted Cruz,

16:03

to Speaker Mike Johnson, also echo

16:05

these lies. Now, are they intentionally

16:07

misleading Americans or are they just

16:09

dumb? They're misleading. They are very

16:11

misleading. First of all, let's just

16:13

talk about the hypocrisy. They're saying

16:15

that this is sacrilegious when they

16:17

are worshiping a man who was

16:19

accused of sexual assault. Well, he

16:21

was found widely. Found widely, okay.

16:23

Who runs around with a Bible

16:25

that he's never read, who's

16:28

having an affair with a porn star while his wife

16:30

is home nursing a baby. So shut up,

16:32

or I'll be honest, talk one thing.

16:34

Number two, wait, number two,

16:37

President Biden, we

16:39

handed them this baloney that they're on with

16:42

Fox and everywhere else. He handed it to

16:44

them because he's a good person, that's why.

16:46

Because he wants to show that he supports

16:48

a group of people that is under attack

16:50

in this country. And if Trump gets in,

16:52

there will be even more under attack. So

16:55

that's what's happening. Can I say something about

16:57

this? Yeah. I

16:59

am so angry about this because

17:01

they are misrepresenting the message of

17:04

Jesus. They are misrepresenting Catholicism, Christianity.

17:06

Yeah. You know, the trans community is 1.6%

17:08

of our community. And

17:10

if you know anything about Jesus,

17:13

you know that he welcomed lepers,

17:16

he welcomed prostitutes, he welcomed

17:18

the least desirable among us

17:21

in society at

17:23

that time. I was in church

17:26

on Easter Sunday and

17:28

our entire homily at St. Charles

17:30

Borromeo here in Harlem was about

17:32

Jesus and about how he got

17:34

up because of us

17:37

and for us and gave his life for

17:39

us. And so for them to be so

17:42

hypocritical in the name of Jesus

17:44

is blasphemy. By the way, shut

17:46

the lights out. Wait

17:49

a minute, wait a minute. I

17:52

was just, I just wanna say one more thing.

17:55

The first commandment, if I recall, from my

17:58

Catholic school upbringing is... I

18:00

am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not

18:02

have false gods before me. And

18:05

then this guy gets on TV and says

18:07

he's like Jesus and they buy this, they

18:09

buy this, that's the first commandment, okay? Well

18:11

yeah, I told the sentiments of everyone at

18:13

this table, I'd also like to issue a

18:15

PSA to warn people next year Easter falls

18:18

on 420, which is the highest. A

18:21

holy day. It

18:24

is the highest of holy days. And I'm

18:26

sure those people are saying the outreach for

18:29

people like myself. So they will come for

18:31

you too. I hear that. But

18:34

also keep in mind that

18:37

this is some advance notice, just in

18:40

case they're listening. Next

18:42

year, Easter is on the 20th. It's

18:45

also Lima Bean Respect Day. How

18:48

dare they? There's

18:50

also National Pineapple Upside Down

18:52

Day. Wow, how about Bible

18:54

Upside Down Day? It's National

18:56

Cheddar Fries Day. And

18:59

it's also Chinese Language Day. So

19:01

you see there are days that

19:04

take up all of our days. And

19:07

it's been like this forever. The

19:10

mere fact that they know nothing about the God

19:12

they profess to love is not a

19:14

shock. They know nothing. He's such

19:16

a hypocrite. He says Mary Magdalene is a 10. Well

19:19

can I just, if I may have a chance to sneak

19:21

in her table, I simply wanted to say it's

19:23

deliberately dishonest. I tried to disconnect this weekend so

19:25

I wasn't really checking, but I had some family

19:28

texting. Like, huh, this seems odd. It took me

19:30

30 seconds to Google and know that for 15

19:32

years, March 31st has been Trans Day of

19:34

Visibility. And by the way, Joe Biden hosted

19:37

the Easter Egg Roll. He went to Easter

19:39

Mass. And he put out a proclamation

19:41

on Easter. It is filtered and they know better.

19:44

And finally, he was rage tweeting at a judge. And

19:48

finally, there was also an attack on churches that welcomed

19:50

the trans community that day, and I'll tell you, to

19:52

Sunny's point, there is nothing less in touch with the

19:54

gospel than wanting to bring in as many people to

19:56

hear the good news. Well because they forget. See

19:58

this, if you don't... did it. And

20:00

I know people give us a lot

20:03

of stuff because they think that we

20:05

also have no idea. I know there's

20:07

a legal note, I'm going to get to

20:09

it. But you know,

20:11

we have our beliefs in God. We

20:14

know the difference between what it says

20:16

and what it doesn't. And regardless of

20:18

what you think of us, at least you

20:20

know we read our damn Bible. But he's

20:22

not guilty. But he's not guilty.

20:25

He defeated every state. I don't do that.

20:28

Let me calm down. I have a legal note. Trump

20:31

has pleaded not guilty and denied any criminal

20:34

wrongdoing and said he never had an affair

20:36

with Stormy Daniels. We'll

20:39

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21:28

their alcohol. That's true. Okay. What do I

21:31

know about this? It's a weeding out process

21:33

though, right? You can check them out. You can check out

21:35

how long their neck is so that you can see maybe

21:37

how tall they are. You can check

21:39

out their pic to see if their zoom matches

21:41

their picture. I kind of like it. And then

21:43

you don't have to be fully dressed. You just

21:45

dress from up here. And then you just have

21:47

pajamas. You don't like them. You pull the plug

21:49

and then they disappear. I totally disagree. You

21:52

can't read seminary the same way over zoom. And

21:55

I feel like with respect to my Gen Z

21:57

friends, we already live too much of our lives digitally.

22:00

and on the phone, go see someone in person. If

22:02

you wanna give him a kiss at the end of

22:04

the night, you're gonna, yeah, but that's for you. You're

22:06

stuck with them all throughout the whole day. What if

22:08

it goes well? The other thing is- I like this.

22:11

One of the big things about the article is about

22:13

efficiency. A lot of the reasons I'm gonna personalize this,

22:15

when I wasn't meeting people, because I was working all

22:17

the time, the time you had to go out wasn't

22:19

much. And I wanted to be my friend. She was

22:22

done as Oozie. Well, that's what I mean. I think

22:24

by weeding someone out a step more than just writing

22:26

them and just getting a sense, why go through a

22:28

full date? A consistency is not antithetical to romance. Tell

22:32

my 37-year-old self that. Yeah,

22:34

you can have a cocktail on the Zoom

22:36

too, so you do not mind doing that without a

22:38

drink. Well, we've got a point. They could stink, you

22:41

never know. You never think- They might look like a

22:43

fox, but- Leave after the second date. They might look

22:45

like a fox, but they might smell like a goat.

22:47

Yeah. Yeah. They never know, right?

22:52

That is, yeah, yeah. We'll

22:54

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24:15

back. Valerie Bertinelli is serving up a

24:17

welcome alternative to the national obsession of

24:19

the number one. The

24:21

scale with her new cookbook

24:24

indulges delicious and decadent

24:26

dishes to enjoy and share. Please

24:29

welcome back to the table Valerie

24:31

Bertinelli. Hi,

24:41

this is the first time I've been here where I'm actually going

24:43

to eat. Oh, this is the leafy. Hi,

24:45

everyone. It's so good to see you. Hey,

24:47

you. Long time. You know

24:50

what? We've already been bitching backstage. I

24:53

wanted to weigh in on something because

24:55

we were just talking, I don't know

24:57

if you saw, about Zoom dating. The

24:59

table is split on whether or not.

25:01

I can speak from experience. Oh,

25:03

good. Okay. A recent experience. Well, please do. So,

25:06

someone slid into my D... Did I slide into

25:08

his DM or do you slide into my DM?

25:10

Oh. So, yeah, we spent the first two

25:12

months of our... Friendship.

25:15

Courtship? Yeah. Courtship. Courtship. Courtship, maybe. Yeah, we kept

25:17

saying we were going to be friends. That never

25:19

happened. And over

25:22

DM and then texting and then

25:25

telephone and then FaceTime. Oh. And

25:27

so for two months of that. And I just couldn't wait to meet

25:29

him. And when I did, I ran into his arms and hugged him

25:32

and it was like, yeah, this is right. Oh, yeah. And

25:34

so I can speak from experience. It's

25:37

actually a good thing. And he didn't smell. No,

25:39

he smelled great. But

25:41

I mean, I think it gives you a chance

25:43

to really get to know somebody, really have a

25:46

great conversation, really understand

25:48

the way you communicate. I

25:50

think it's important instead of just going out for coffee

25:53

or going out for drinks and just trying to put

25:55

your best in. Like trying to put your best face

25:57

on. Yep. When you can really talk about a lot

25:59

of like... stuff and get to know

26:01

one another. I like that. Yeah, me too. I

26:03

like him. Okay. There you go. I'm

26:05

happy for you. So we're happy for you. He's an hour

26:07

permanent sex friend. I hope so. It's a

26:10

long distance relationship because he lives here. I live on a

26:12

wet coast. Oh, lucky you. Right? Yeah.

26:14

Well, so I can sort of have, well, no,

26:16

it's hard. But you know, it is what it

26:18

is and you know, you make it work. Good

26:21

for you. I love that for you. And your

26:23

new cookbook is called Indulge. You

26:25

brought us all this delicious food from the book. It

26:27

smells really good for those of you who truly smells

26:29

great. I'm gonna give you that. We

26:32

will indulge. So what do we have

26:34

here? Well, I'm going straight for

26:37

the brownie. Okay, okay. That's great. I

26:39

see that you have the galette, the

26:41

vegetable galette. You have a loose apple

26:43

and tomato chicken. You have the

26:45

filet mignon with the bernet sauce. And

26:48

what do we have over here? Because I don't have my glasses. What

26:50

is this? What is this? Pommes are on potatoes. What is

26:52

this? Should I make this? Is it

26:54

chicken salad? No. But this

26:57

looks like a shower cap. Oh, this is like. I

27:00

think this has the salmon. It's salmon,

27:02

it's salmon. Okay, sorry. There's

27:04

a lot of recipes. It's really good. Oh, these are

27:06

just those little kind of rice things that you put

27:08

them in oil and they just do these little

27:10

fun. Oh, really? It adds a crunch.

27:13

I think they have this in the Philippines. Yes, and

27:15

what else do I have over here? Oh, are those

27:18

the. Yes, mise en

27:20

potatos. Turkey, is this turkey? Thank

27:22

you, Whoopi. Well, you say. Do I have chicken,

27:24

I think. I don't know. No, that's chicken. That's

27:27

a prosecco chicken. Oh, prosecco chicken.

27:29

I like the sound of that. Can I

27:31

just say something? I wanna, on what you

27:33

were, the last before break. I'm

27:37

not gonna bring anything down, don't worry. But we are in an

27:39

election year. A very important election year.

27:42

I mean, if there is a DEF CON, that's the worst

27:44

DEF CON we're in that DEF CON. Yes, we are. I

27:46

think it's one or six. I forget which one it is.

27:48

That's the bad one. We're there, no hyperbole. So

27:52

I just want you to know

27:54

how dang important it is for everyone to

27:56

vote. And not only vote for the big ones,

27:58

but the vice president for. Congress, we

28:00

need a Congress that can support our president. But

28:03

what we really need to do is politics is

28:05

local. And that's how some insidious

28:07

things start to happen, like gerrymandering and stuff

28:09

like that. So you really need to keep

28:11

an eye on who is going to represent

28:13

you in your town, in your city, in

28:15

your state. And be very aware of who

28:17

you're voting for and what they say they're

28:19

going to do for you. So please vote

28:21

for your own benefit. Thank you. It's

28:25

that way. Phew. I got

28:27

a little excited. I got a

28:29

little excited and I just have to think about our

28:32

queen, Tana Smith and Tom Yost. Yes. So

28:35

I have to ask you, there's so much language

28:37

and pressure around food and it's all about the

28:39

number on the scale. But you chose the word

28:41

indulge. And these recipes are delicious. What made you

28:43

want to lean into that? Because the word indulge

28:45

means to enjoy the pleasure of. And

28:47

I don't think enough of us enjoy the pleasure of just

28:49

being alive for the most part. We're

28:52

judging ourselves, we're too much, we need to be

28:54

better, we need to, food is bad, food is

28:56

good, it's not bad or good. It's

28:59

nutrition to feed your body so that your

29:01

body can walk. So that your body can

29:03

do whatever your body needs to do. Right.

29:06

There's garlic. There is garlic. There

29:08

is garlic, yes. Wonderful. Yeah.

29:10

You're very. So I

29:12

wanted to take indulge and make it not a

29:14

bad word anymore. I'm gonna indulge this week and

29:16

I'm gonna cheat. No, you're just gonna indulge in

29:18

the joys of your life and whatever you're eating,

29:21

you're gonna indulge in that and stay in the

29:23

moment. We are indulging. Thank you. This is exquisite.

29:25

Pizza, tea, kind of. It's a galette. Oh, yes,

29:27

beautiful. Valerie, over the years

29:29

you've been very open about your struggles with weight,

29:31

I guess. Although I never

29:33

noticed anything. Well, you'd be surprised what

29:35

the trolls will notice. Right. I'll

29:38

tell you about it. What the problem was is that in

29:40

my head I was already thinking all that bad stuff. So

29:42

once you get that bad stuff, and I think my age

29:44

has a lot to do with it, where I just don't

29:46

give a flying fig anymore, what people think of me, and

29:49

it's really easy to block people on social media. And

29:51

I don't care, you can be proud of me blocking

29:53

you. Good for you. All

29:55

you have to do is mute and then they don't even give you

29:57

no... No, I don't want to, no. Mom blocks. Yeah,

30:01

you know what, you're not allowed in my arena if

30:03

you're gonna be in a house. That's so. That's

30:06

very healthy. But I think what it is,

30:08

is that I finally decided that

30:11

the number on the scale was never gonna

30:13

make me happy. The size I was wearing

30:15

was never gonna make me happy because it

30:17

wasn't ever good enough. So what

30:19

I, and I know that because I never

30:21

felt like I was good enough. So

30:23

until, unless and until I decided to feel

30:25

every feeling that I had instead of suppress

30:27

them with food or alcohol, instead of trying

30:29

to numb them with food or alcohol, just

30:32

like Churchill said, when you're going through hell,

30:35

keep going. Was it Churchill? I don't care. But

30:37

when you're going through hell, you have to keep going. When you're

30:39

going through a feeling, feelings are, and emotions

30:41

are information for you to take in and

30:43

your body is trying to tell you something.

30:45

So you need to stop, acknowledge, and walk

30:48

through those feelings. I feel like sometimes I

30:50

think I'm gonna start crying and never gonna

30:52

stop crying. But I, so far I haven't

30:54

died of crying and I cry a lot.

30:56

Yeah, and that's actually what I'm gonna ask

30:58

you about is you write about an incredibly

31:00

underrated activity, the crying you need to, and

31:03

that you're even scary. Happy crying is great

31:05

too. Oh, it's cathartic. But you even share

31:07

it on social media. So tell us how

31:09

that came. Back to the trolls again. Why

31:11

do I look at you when we talk about trolls?

31:13

We deal with the trolls. We deal with the trolls.

31:15

We're dealing with them, yeah. But Lizzo has already gotten,

31:17

apparently she wants to leave the industry because of the

31:19

trolls. Well, she needs a block more. But

31:22

it's not right what's happening here. I'm sorry,

31:24

what was your question? Oh, about crying. Why

31:26

is it so sad to hear? Well, crying

31:29

because I, so when

31:31

I started on this healing journey, about two years

31:33

ago, my life was like really unmanageable and I

31:35

got shoved, you know how the universe or God

31:37

kind of like taps you on the shoulder, you

31:39

don't listen, kind of gives you a little push,

31:41

you don't listen, shoves you to your knees, you

31:43

still don't listen. I got shoved on my ass.

31:45

And so I needed to really change the way I

31:47

was living. And so I started talking about tolerating

31:50

the intolerable and crying through it. And I would

31:52

get these trolls that are like, oh my God,

31:54

she's crying again. Or at least she, oh my

31:56

God. Like, okay, so what do you, you have

31:58

a problem with crying? Because when. When you cry, when

32:00

you release that emotion from your body and understand

32:02

why you're crying, you don't have to always understand

32:05

it. You don't have to be analytical, but it

32:07

releases tension and stress in your body

32:10

that needs to be released. Cry, let's

32:12

just cry. It's good. Yes, slow your

32:14

throat. I agree with that on that

32:17

one. That's it. Whoopi's crying

32:19

now. She was crying. Ha

32:21

ha ha. It'll

32:23

be okay, Whoopi. Cry it out, girl.

32:25

Just cry it out. We

32:28

just really want to say thanks to Valerie Bernelli. Ha ha

32:30

ha. Because hug, hug,

32:32

hug is all delicious and I

32:34

can envision doing joint

32:36

shares available today. And

32:40

members of the audience, you all.

32:42

Oh, my God. Oh,

32:46

my God. Oh,

32:48

my God. Oh,

32:52

my God. Welcome

32:57

back, Suniqua Martin-Green and Wilco

32:59

Cruz have traveled

33:03

through time and space on the series Star

33:05

Trek Discovery. And

33:07

they are about to embark on the

33:09

final season of their

33:11

journey. Please welcome Suniqua Martin-Green and

33:14

Wilco Cruz. Oh, my God. Oh,

33:16

my God. Oh, my God. Oh,

33:19

my God. Oh, my God. Oh,

33:21

my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh,

33:24

my God. Oh, my God. Hello.

33:27

Thank you. Thank you for having us. Thank

33:29

you for having us. Thank you for having us. Now,

33:31

Suniqua, season five will be the last season

33:34

of Star Trek Discovery. You and

33:36

Wilson and the rest of the cast have

33:38

been like a family

33:40

for the last seven years of your life.

33:43

So how do you feel about it all coming to

33:45

an end? Oh, my goodness. Well,

33:47

first of all, I'm so happy to be back. Hey, y'all. Hey,

33:50

y'all. I love y'all so much. Oh,

33:53

man. Here we are. It feels

33:55

like I've been saying these three words a

33:57

lot. There's this sense of... and

34:00

achievement and gratitude. Because

34:02

we've had a lot of time to process it, right? It's

34:05

been a while since we shot it. And,

34:08

man, we're just so proud of

34:10

everybody. And, you know,

34:12

we are just two of the members of

34:14

this crew. That's right. There are many of

34:16

us. There's Anthony Rapp. Yes. There's Blue Del

34:18

Barrio. There's Mary Weissman and David Agala and

34:20

Doug Jones. I mean, they are our family.

34:22

And, you know, I have to say, we've

34:25

talked a lot about being a family on this show, but

34:27

that was modeled for us from the top. You

34:30

know, this woman, our number one, our

34:32

captain has really set a bar so

34:35

high for us. And she, it

34:37

required us to meet her at that high level.

34:39

And it's really changed our lives. And we've been

34:42

through a lot in these last seven years. We've

34:44

been through a pandemic. We've, you know, some of

34:46

us have lost family and people

34:48

have given birth, you know. So a

34:51

lot has happened in those seven years and we've been there with

34:53

each other through it all. You're gonna make me cry. I

34:56

know, I'm gonna cry. This one right

34:58

here. Well, you both

35:00

are incredible. And just what an excellent cast.

35:02

And Wilton, I know you grew up a

35:04

Trekkie. You watched Star Trek, The Next Generation,

35:06

which of course is a fabulous new school

35:09

birth. But now, what was it

35:11

like to be part of this project,

35:17

having been such a fan? And I heard that you had

35:19

to be sedated when you met Patrick Stewart. I

35:21

did, I did. It's

35:24

true, he walked into a convention.

35:26

He walked into a convention. And

35:28

he shook my hand and said hello to me. And

35:30

I literally lost my mind. And Anthony Rapp

35:33

was on the other side of the room. And I think I... Ah!

35:40

That said it all. Oh, yeah. That

35:42

happened. By the way, it took everything I had not

35:44

to respond that way this morning to you. Because,

35:47

you know, so much of my

35:49

character was, you know, he becomes

35:52

the counselor in season three, season

35:54

four. And so much of

35:57

what inspired me was the way that you handled

35:59

Guinan. You know, this very laid

36:01

back, welcoming presence. And

36:03

I wanted his counseling sessions to have

36:05

that same feel. So I'm grateful to

36:08

you for the inspiration. Oh, thanks. Well,

36:10

I think Michelle. Yeah, you know. It

36:12

all starts, you just talk about the

36:14

time. Yes, the time. Yeah, the time. Amazing,

36:17

amazing. It's

36:21

been an incredible experience to play this character, to

36:23

be this person, to have this epic journey. And

36:25

I'm just grateful to have been a part of it. It's

36:28

changed my life. And it will stay with you forever. No,

36:31

you're not getting rid of each other. No, you don't get rid of

36:33

each other. You think, oh, I'm never gonna see these folks.

36:36

And then there they are. Right. Yes, yes.

36:39

Kinda like us. Yeah. In

36:41

a funny kind of way. We do

36:43

behave terribly when Sir Patrick Stewart. Are

36:46

you behaving? Oh, I don't. His wife's

36:48

name is Sonny. And so I have a thing for

36:50

him. That doesn't mean it, that he wants the Sonny.

36:52

And he has a thing for me too. No,

36:54

he doesn't. Anyway, he

36:56

likes you. We'll be bursting my bubble,

36:59

but it's okay, let's move on. Okay, what

37:01

I do love about this cast in particular

37:03

is the diversity. Because it shows

37:05

us the world as it should

37:07

be, even in outer space. All right, so I

37:10

love that about it. You've had

37:12

many fans of the show come up to

37:14

you, my understanding is, to both of you,

37:16

to tell you how it's impacted them. And

37:18

Sinequa, there was one man in particular that

37:20

you say you won't forget. Yeah, and there

37:23

are so many encounters that I'll never forget

37:25

from bringing families together to now I know how

37:27

to have a voice at work, I

37:29

was going to take my life and decided

37:31

not to. But the

37:33

one that always rises to the top, this British

37:35

man came up to me, I

37:37

think it was during season two. And he said, I

37:42

do his accent, but I don't wanna do it, because

37:44

I don't wanna. But he basically

37:46

said, I watched season one and

37:48

I saw myself in you. He

37:51

said, I was able to see the world through your eyes

37:54

and I related to you so much, even

37:56

though you couldn't be more different than me. And by

37:58

the end of the season. He was

38:00

like, I understood, that's what it means

38:02

to step into someone else and see

38:05

yourself in them. And now I know

38:07

how to stop the cycle of racism

38:09

in my family. Yeah,

38:11

wow. Legit.

38:15

And I started crying and he was like,

38:17

oh, I didn't mean to make you cry. I

38:20

was like, well, how could I? I know, I know, I

38:22

had to come out. I was like, but how could I? Yeah,

38:24

how could I not? Because this

38:26

is what Roddenberry's visual

38:29

for the world was when he did it in

38:31

62. He

38:33

wanted people to understand

38:36

that as different as

38:38

we all are, we are all

38:41

the same. Yes, our M.O. is

38:43

an infinite combination. So

38:47

it's not new, y'all. I'm just saying, it's

38:49

not you. It's been there for

38:51

a while, this idea that we

38:53

could all meet on this playing

38:55

field. So stop trying to pretend

38:58

like this just came out of nowhere. People

39:00

have been trying to do this forever.

39:04

Star Trek is what

39:06

happens when we allow that long moral

39:08

arc to actually

39:11

bend towards justice. Well, to me it's

39:13

right. To me it's actually great.

39:15

Talk about your character, Wilson, because

39:17

you're part of the

39:19

first gay couple in Star

39:21

Trek universe. And we're living in a

39:24

time when some politicians, I won't mention

39:26

any names, are trying to take away

39:28

the rights of LGBTQ plus community. We

39:31

talked about transgender today. What's

39:33

the impact do you think the show like Star

39:35

Trek has when it comes to equality on

39:38

this subject? Do you think there'll be a

39:40

homophobe out there who's gonna come up to

39:42

you like they just did with Sonequa? Oh,

39:44

I think the show really allows people into

39:48

our story, right? I

39:50

think art culture allows

39:52

people to step into shoes that they

39:54

would ordinarily be able to step into.

39:57

And relate to you. Yeah, what's

39:59

disturbing. about what's happening politically is

40:01

that we're using young people, trans

40:04

young people, trans and non-binary young

40:06

people as political pawns. They're

40:08

not an issue. Trans people are not

40:10

issues. Trans people are people who

40:12

are just merely trying to live

40:15

their lives as

40:17

well and as honestly as they possibly

40:19

can. Just this year

40:21

alone, we've seen more anti-LGBTQ bills

40:24

than at any other year. And

40:26

most of them have been directed towards

40:29

LGBTQ trans and

40:31

non-binary young people. What does that

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say about who we are, right? When

40:36

we can't allow a young person to

40:38

discover who they are and support

40:40

them in that process. It says that evil people

40:42

in power like to have a scapegoat. Yes, that's

40:44

exactly right. And they think it's

40:47

a political weapon that works in their favor. And I'm here

40:49

to tell you that it's not that. Well, we're going to

40:51

try and let's not let that happen. As

40:55

long as there is a Star Trek

40:57

happening somewhere on the planet, there

41:00

is the possibility of finding

41:03

that new world. It

41:05

is out there. We know it can work.

41:08

And we love that you all came today

41:10

so we can celebrate you.

41:13

For season five of Star Trek

41:15

Discovery, it premieres April 4th

41:17

on Paramount Plus. And

41:20

you can watch a lot of things on

41:22

Paramount Plus having to do with Star Trek.

41:24

I'm just letting you know. We'll

41:27

be right back. Thanks

41:29

for watching. Thanks for coming. We want everybody to

41:31

take a little time to enjoy the view. Somebody's

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on the podcast. Sonny. Sonny is

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on the podcast.