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The view starts live
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right now. Box
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trapped? Will a former producer
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for Tucker Carlson and Maria Bartaramo
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complicate the network's defense in Dominion's
0:14
ongoing lawsuit against them
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with claims she was coerced by
0:18
Fox lawyers to give misleading
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testimony about the repeated election
0:23
fraud
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lies. Said they we talked about
0:26
the dominion software. I know that
0:28
there were voting irregularities. It
0:31
will be impossible to
0:33
ever know the true,
0:35
fair, accurate election general
0:37
results.
0:38
And after leaked texts proclaiming
0:40
he hates Trump with a passion, Carson
0:43
Cozy's back up to the former president
0:46
I love Trump. Then writer,
0:48
director, and actor, Zach Braff, is
0:51
live to share how he's bringing
0:53
a good person to the big
0:55
screen. Plus, actor
0:57
activist and broadcaster Jamila
0:59
Jamila is weighing in on
1:01
hot topics and talking about
1:03
getting celebs to tell all about
1:05
their most disastrous date.
1:09
Here come hot topics
1:11
with movie. Sarah
1:15
Haynes. Anna Navarro.
1:18
Joy Bayhart. Sunny
1:21
Austin, and alyssa
1:24
Vera Griffin. Now,
1:27
let's get things started.
1:57
Hello, and welcome to the New. Alyssa
2:00
is not here because, unfortunately, She
2:02
has
2:03
COVID. Oh. So yeah. It's
2:05
still around.
2:05
So meet our COVID-nineteen. That's
2:07
right.
2:08
Here I am. So feel better
2:10
in tune in tomorrow when US
2:13
surgeon general Vivek Murphy
2:15
gives us the latest on the COVID crisis
2:17
and other health care issues. We got
2:20
some questions. Mhmm. And I want
2:22
to start this with this alpidate. You
2:25
know who is still at large. He
2:29
is. Yes, he
2:30
is. He has has he has he has he been
2:32
arrested? No. Like you predicted. Well,
2:34
you know, you kinda have
2:36
to weigh it with all the other stuff he said.
2:39
And you figure, well, you know,
2:41
you said you won the election you didn't weigh. Good
2:44
point. You said they come and arrest you,
2:46
take the arrest.
2:46
I said that to Joy. Why would we start believing
2:49
him now? It's like --
2:49
Yeah. -- it is kind of great point. He
2:51
manipulated everybody. The we we all
2:54
rose to the occasion, the papers, everybody
2:56
just went there. So many people were
2:57
excited. Liar.
2:59
Yeah. Is
3:01
a liar. Are you shocked?
3:03
No. It annoys me every time. I know.
3:07
I know. You were a very
3:09
surety, and I just want to lick your
3:11
shoulders.
3:13
Well, don't forget Sunny's dress. It's beautiful.
3:16
I knew
3:16
that the gentleman had a
3:17
fall asleep on her dress. It is a
3:20
flower. It is a flower or
3:22
a flower
3:23
with
3:24
a pissed a look.
3:24
Shouting out how you went to hours.
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The shiny waxy red's hours. Nobody knows
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what you're talking about. It's a piece of corn with pepperoni's
3:31
disease. I
3:33
knew it was gonna happen when I walked
3:34
out. Alright. I
3:37
don't wanna shock you or anything, but
3:39
if that looks like a phallic to you,
3:41
we need to talk. But
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in other legal news, Fox
3:49
News hands back to court
3:51
for the ongoing lawsuit Dominion
3:54
Voting Systems filed against them.
3:58
I'm so sorry. I just
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there's something about this that tickles me. Why?
4:02
Yeah. Well, because it's like
4:05
you went out there day after day after
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day and said it's the machines and the machines
4:09
and this, and they turn people into masks
4:11
and they do terrible things and it turns
4:13
out the machine didn't do
4:15
anything. That's right. And the machine did What
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it was to do? They connected
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No. That's what this Yeah. They they put all so
4:21
and, you know, and their defense
4:24
couldn't be complicated. By a
4:26
form of female producer for the Technicoloration
4:29
and Maria Bartolomo show
4:31
who claims that Fox News lawyers co
4:34
worst her into giving misleading testimony
4:37
about network stars repeatedly pushing
4:39
election fraud lies. She
4:41
also filed a suit of the
4:43
toxic, misogynistic
4:47
climate. She claims She was
4:49
exposed to at the network. So
4:52
which door
4:53
should Fox be more concerned about?
4:57
It's a bit an SYS OF RICHES
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AT THIS POINT. IT'S JUST YES.
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YOU KNOW, SHE SAID THAT SHE
5:04
DIDN'T THINK PEOPLE NEEDED TO
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CORRECT
5:07
wrong information. So I'm just senior
5:09
producers. Yeah. They did not have to
5:11
correct. Mythleading and stuff.
5:14
Nobody hear that. Let them
5:15
have at it. I say, let them go
5:17
at it until there's no more
5:19
to go after. I think she's pretty a little
5:21
concerned because with It said
5:24
testimony in our research,
5:26
which means she testified somewhere whether
5:28
it be deposition or a grand jury.
5:31
And the penalty for perjury, at
5:33
least federally is about five
5:35
years. Prosecutors get really pissed
5:37
when you lie to them. Yeah. And so I know
5:39
she may be saying that, like,
5:41
Fox made her live,
5:44
but she's still live. Yeah. So she's gotta
5:46
be little concerned as well. And as far as
5:48
blaming the fact that she's a
5:49
woman, I mean, there's always
5:51
a four
5:52
guy. She's been over second. She
5:54
works at Fox. And she's shocked by
5:56
seconds. I that's that's what that's the other
5:58
point. How many other point? People have
6:00
watched their
6:01
jobs over there. Do you want their errands and
6:03
Bill O'Reilly to men, but two -- Yeah. --
6:05
if you For for sexual harassment, It was I
6:07
mean, what shows have a little break? Well, and you
6:09
watched the movie, Bombshell, and a lot of people that worked
6:11
at Fox said, you know, that's not a
6:13
stretch. That's where it is. So It's definitely
6:16
dealing with misogyny. There were posters
6:18
up of Nancy Pelosi in their news in
6:20
one of the shows with her in a plunging baby
6:22
see what she
6:23
works there. Yeah.
6:23
And then they also had, like, a mock
6:25
I mean, that's a business in a bathing suit.
6:27
Yeah. And they made fun of her female
6:29
producer. Yeah. Well, then they also had, like, a
6:31
mock trial to decide which
6:33
Michigan governor that was running. They'd
6:35
rather have sex with. Now, the weird
6:37
thing is I've worked at two major networks and
6:39
the news floorers are really
6:41
sterile. They're a bit boring. There's
6:43
nothing going on. People are
6:44
very sterile. They're not. Well, that
6:47
that argues you would call Fox a News organization
6:50
-- Okay. -- where I have worked a news organization.
6:52
But -- Yeah. -- they are so the
6:54
ethics and the lawyers and the hovering and
6:57
can we say this? Can we do this? It's so
6:59
controlled that to imagine a place
7:01
where they're doing
7:02
this, it doesn't shock me that it's there.
7:04
It shocked me, it's still there, though, little bit
7:06
that you're getting away with this kind of I can
7:08
say because I did work there. Sorry,
7:11
everyone. But you would walk
7:13
in and on each floor,
7:16
depending on the show, they would have
7:18
a whiteboard that would stand, and
7:20
some of them were posted, and there'd
7:23
be like three points. And you would see those
7:25
points over and over again on show. It was like I
7:27
hate
7:27
Obama. Yeah. Obama
7:31
is whatever.
7:32
How long ago?
7:33
About year.
7:34
And so did you tear down those points?
7:37
That was my job.
7:38
Was to
7:39
be on Bill O'Reilly's show and argue
7:41
with Megyn Kelly about those
7:42
points. Oh, I see. I think I I guess
7:44
that's it her most of the time. But
7:47
and we know about Meghan. But
7:49
I I think that that is
7:52
business as usual, stocks. Yes. Statements.
7:55
Oh, I have a legal note.
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In a statement, a Fox SOLLS
8:03
WOMAN SAID FOX NEWS
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MEDIA ENGAGED AN INDEPENDENT OUTSIDE
8:07
COUNCIL TO IMMEDIATELY INVESTIGATE THE
8:10
CONCERNS. Conraised by miss
8:12
Grossberg, which were made following
8:14
critical performance review. Her
8:16
allegations in connection with the Dominion case
8:18
are baseless, and we will vigorously
8:21
defend Fox against all of
8:23
her
8:23
claims. She also claims they were anti
8:25
Semitic, by
8:26
the way. Yeah. To say There were a lot of claims in
8:28
our Yeah. Okay.
8:31
We'll be right back.
8:40
Tomorrow on the view, we shot
8:42
the enterprise, LaBarbara and his
8:44
daughter, Lisa, are hitting the hot topics
8:47
table. I saved right on.
8:49
I'm excited. America's the number one
8:51
daytime hot show. Is ABC's
8:53
the view.
9:01
So welcome back. Reality
9:05
star, Braff Has
9:08
had her share of cosmetic procedures
9:12
when she was younger. But
9:14
lately, she's been having all of her
9:16
filters removed and
9:19
telling her Instagram followers why.
9:22
Take a look.
9:25
And besides I did it when I was so young,
9:27
I didn't even give my body, like, time to
9:29
fully develop. So
9:31
we try to do these things at a very
9:33
young age, this trust me is gonna come.
9:36
You're gonna get the snack space that you need.
9:40
So will people
9:42
listen? I'm not listening.
9:47
Just yesterday, I had fillers and the other
9:50
shots that I had something called Kieran
9:52
Brodant? Thank you, Dr. And
9:55
I mean And I look so good
9:57
for a hundred and teen years old. This
10:00
is not natural. Okay? I
10:03
did yesterday. They did a which
10:06
puts collagen back in your face than they
10:08
did this, than
10:08
this, and fabulous. I had some Botox
10:11
yesterday also. It works.
10:13
But if Matt Gates could do it, I can
10:15
Exactly. But I will
10:18
say, what I liked about her point
10:20
is, like, she started doing these things,
10:22
I think, at nineteen or the ATM.
10:24
Was really young. Your face hasn't fully
10:26
developed. You already have that really
10:28
round, pretty, you know, that
10:30
The left side of it. Face.
10:32
Face that miss. People are trying that
10:34
I miss. The people are trying to get. So
10:36
I don't III hope people will
10:38
listen to her because I read that the fillers
10:41
when you do them that young, they
10:44
weren't up to the quality that they --
10:46
Yeah. So
10:46
maybe stretch the skin. -- and they stretch just needs
10:48
it all. And they and they move. Yeah.
10:51
Because of
10:52
What? Science wasn't where it was before.
10:54
Well, what it reminded me of is like a bad
10:57
spring break tattoo. Like, you know, it sounds
10:59
like a great idea when you're
11:01
twenty. Like, you know, let's all get
11:03
matching tattoos, you
11:04
know, and all of a sudden you're like, maybe
11:06
that wasn't a good idea that's here forever. So
11:08
I tend to think like that she's
11:11
undoing her face the way some people will look back
11:13
at when they tattooed someone's
11:14
name, never tattoo a name. Those all agree
11:16
on that ring. Course your breasts
11:18
or something. Did you do that? I didn't do it. Oh, okay.
11:20
I was like, I had a friend that did it. But
11:22
also, she's so
11:23
beautiful. She's beautiful. Yeah. But,
11:25
you know, why would she think through that? I don't know how
11:27
girls are. They don't never think they're pretty enough. They
11:29
don't I know a famous actress who actually
11:32
got a facelift when she was like thirty. Really
11:34
not because she wanted to look younger, but
11:37
because she wanted to look
11:38
prettier, which it did make her look prettier.
11:40
But in NASH, it really rarely makes
11:42
people look prettier or younger, they look done.
11:45
Like, now we want this
11:46
done. I'll walk around a room and they all look
11:48
the same. There's no unique qualities, there's
11:50
no every set of lips looks the same.
11:52
Every you know, like I am in favor of it.
11:54
I don't get that lip thing. That hurts, first of
11:56
all, and then you can suck a lemon across the room
11:58
with that.
12:03
Well, I well,
12:05
best people trying to copy
12:08
the natural black beauty that a
12:10
lot of black women have. But
12:12
I I that's probably true.
12:13
Yeah. But but I'm white woman. It looks crazy.
12:15
Watch sunny. She'll suck a lemon across her house.
12:19
You know. But I think that
12:22
what's I'm in favor of
12:24
whatever makes you feel good about
12:26
yourself. Yes. And
12:28
you have money. And you have no money. You should
12:31
do it because you put on a mind No. -- of
12:33
course. But
12:33
it it changes the way you move in the world, I
12:35
think. When when you Having feel
12:37
better about yourself. Oh, well,
12:40
look, we've had this conversation about
12:42
you make more money, if you're more attractive, you
12:44
get more jobs when you look younger, all
12:46
of that plays into this big I
12:49
mean, this big hoax that's being perpetrated
12:51
on me. Right now, the women.
12:53
You know, it's true though. That's the those
12:55
are the studies. Thank
12:57
you. There
13:00
you have.
13:16
I mean, I don't know if you remember stepping
13:19
on a scale to get weighed
13:21
at school. Those days aren't over
13:23
apparently. It still happens. In
13:25
forty percent of schools across America
13:27
as part of fitness checks that are
13:29
sent home to parents. But according to data
13:32
tracking from California and Massachusetts,
13:35
Schools, these
13:37
checks don't seem to have any impact
13:39
on a child's weight. Right. And
13:42
they even claim that it's giving kids
13:44
body
13:44
issues. So why are the why are you
13:46
still why are we still doing it? You know,
13:49
I I don't understand. If as adults, we
13:51
know weight is not huge indicator for health or
13:53
wellness, and weight can vary so much. Why would
13:55
we hold kids to that standard? Because when
13:57
I look at, like, this is anecdotal, but my
14:00
youngest son is really big and he's off the charts.
14:02
And I asked the doctor, I said, you know,
14:04
should I be concerned, like, all joking aside?
14:06
And she was like, when I explained what he
14:08
ate, she goes, nope, it's just his genetics. And
14:11
so when you compare two kids at certain
14:13
times, WAIT IS NOT GOING TO
14:15
BE THE DISTRIGISHING FACTOR AND IF YOUR CHILD
14:17
IS OVERWAIT, YOU PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW AND YOU
14:19
DON'T NEED
14:21
THEM TO BE WAID IN SCHOOL TOLD YOU
14:23
SHOULD handled. That's
14:24
traumatic for the child, especially if you do
14:26
it in front of the other kids. I mean, what what do they box
14:28
It's
14:28
traumatic for a new way for the
14:30
children. You know, it's not like a boxing
14:32
match where they have to weigh Muhammad Ali.
14:34
Right? Yeah. It's a kid, and then
14:36
the kids know how much you
14:38
weigh. I don't mind it if the kids did not
14:40
know what you weigh. They don't waste you in front of
14:42
them. I think the process would be so
14:44
could be anxiety, written, and
14:47
and if you're overweight, you know you're overweight,
14:49
especially as a kid, with social media
14:51
and all this nonsense going on.
14:54
I don't remember ever being weighed, but I think
14:56
this is like shame based. I
14:58
don't like it. But I do think that because
15:00
there's so much obesity now in our country,
15:02
especially amongst children
15:03
actually, this should be done at a doctor's
15:06
office. That leaves. Well,
15:07
usually even the nurse is off.
15:09
First of all, if
15:09
no. I mean, out of the schools, I'm sorry. Peter,
15:12
if you're concerned about your child's weight
15:14
and the school is concerned, Maybe
15:17
folks should get together and make sure that
15:19
the food they're getting for perhaps breakfast
15:22
and lunch is more
15:24
towards what we want to see our kids. Like,
15:26
female Oliver, does he know something else? Cool.
15:28
But we don't want to -- We
15:31
don't want to give them free for as people bitch
15:33
and moan about having to pay for free
15:35
lunches for you know, but a lot of families
15:38
can only do once or twice.
15:40
A day. Yeah. Why if you're
15:42
going to weigh the child and
15:45
you want that information? Why not help
15:47
the parents get to the SNAP program even
15:49
though SNAP keeps, you know, they keep
15:52
taking money away from it. You know,
15:54
we always say, you know, we I listen to
15:56
these parents talk about what children
15:58
need in protecting kids. And then I watched
16:00
folks just damn them.
16:03
You know? They just damn the kids. And
16:05
I I don't I I don't understand.
16:07
And this apparently has it
16:09
has nothing has nothing to do
16:11
with anything because the information is
16:14
not going back to the to
16:16
the
16:16
See, I
16:16
thought it was gonna go to, like, the the pediatricians
16:19
No. It's not going to it's you
16:21
know, in the site I if you'd like to get on sale
16:23
of the doctor's office, I always say, I'll tell you what
16:26
I weigh. I don't know. Well,
16:29
you know, I I think if there's way
16:31
to do a hundred floods out.
16:32
That's not
16:33
a machine. They also put soda
16:35
machines and snack machines in schools
16:37
and expect that kids are gonna not deal with
16:39
obesity. Like -- Yeah. -- they don't take the like you
16:41
said, comprehensive approach to teaching the kids,
16:43
also presenting food options
16:46
and helping parents. Yes. Parents
16:48
I'm sorry. What wait. Hold on. Rob's talk. Right?
16:50
Yes. Right. What what
16:51
do you want about? That's all he ever said. He's
16:53
always saying goodbye. Yeah.
16:56
But that's okay because we always come back.
17:14
What about an actual writer of directors
17:16
that crowd's latest movie,
17:18
a good person follows two people,
17:21
shattered by the same tragedy, who find
17:23
each other again in a substance
17:25
abuse program and not a moment
17:28
too
17:28
soon. Take a look.
17:39
Allison, don't go. This
17:43
was a mistake. No. No one isn't.
17:46
Trust me. I know how
17:48
hard it is to get here. It's
17:50
damn near impossible and you did
17:52
it. Don't run away now because
17:54
of me. There are
17:55
thousands of meetings. I'll find another one.
17:57
Wow. Yeah. But this one has the best snacks.
18:00
I wanna go.
18:01
No. No. No. You've made it this far,
18:03
and I wouldn't.
18:04
I know I'll be here.
18:06
Nobody does in the beginning.
18:08
I don't want me anywhere. Then
18:10
you are definitely in the right spot.
18:12
Please welcome. Thank
18:27
you so much.
18:34
Thank
18:34
you so much for having me.
18:35
Thank you. Really nice to have you. Yeah. Here.
18:37
Oh, I have the same I have the first question. I just
18:40
have to say, Sarah
18:42
and I love the movie. And Sarah's already crying.
18:44
I know she just seen the one scene. Oh
18:46
my god. And I powerful movie it's
18:48
a bit. It's very powerful. I I wanted to
18:50
see something very light and airy, but
18:52
I got into it, and then and then you made me cry
18:55
too. So thanks. But The last time
18:57
we saw you -- Yeah. -- you were on our show
18:59
with your best friend Scruggs CoStar and
19:01
Podcast. Oh, hey, Donald speaking.
19:03
Yeah. There we are.
19:05
I remember because he was in his closet.
19:07
Yeah. We do a podcast called fake doctors real
19:09
friends where we rewatch scrubs, and he's he's
19:11
kids and it's so loud. So he he does
19:13
the reporting in his closet. He was
19:16
in his closet. I saw lot of sneakers,
19:18
but it was in May twenty twenty. So
19:20
it was over Zoom, of course. You were such
19:22
a bright light during such
19:24
a dark time, and you two were
19:26
so excited for the first few minutes of that interview.
19:30
People here were saying was, like, two puppies in a
19:32
crib. It was was amazing.
19:33
Well, we love the show. We love you guys. I also
19:35
have to say that, you know, whoopi Goldberg is holds
19:38
a very special place in in both of our
19:40
hearts. Color one thing that I'm in common
19:42
is the color purple is one of our favorite movies
19:44
of all times. We
19:47
get very giddy. We get very giddy.
19:51
Yeah. She should have won the Oscar for that.
19:54
Yes.
19:54
Absolutely. You should get it. They should
19:56
give it to you now. Give it to you. Retrospectively.
19:59
Yeah. Yeah. That
19:59
whole thing. So you and Donald phase on. Is
20:01
that what he says on? Yeah. Okay. You did a Super
20:03
Bowl commercial together last year. Yeah. And
20:05
again, this year, but this time with
20:08
an additional cast
20:08
member, Yeah.
20:09
Oh, John Travolta. We both
20:11
love musicals a lot.
20:12
Before you let's look at the clip. Oh, sorry.
20:14
Yeah. Yeah. Let's see the clip. Wait. So you see?
20:18
Tell me more Tell me more. One
20:20
chord's all that you need. Tell me
20:22
more. Tell me more. Don't you worry
20:24
about
20:25
speed. Oh,
20:29
yeah.
20:30
I mean, Travolta, to me, is one
20:32
of the best dancers in the movie.
20:33
You said, great dance,
20:34
Jay Travolta, I had to dance. There was some choreography,
20:36
but Travolta was like, no. No. No. Let's do it and
20:38
he kinda took over
20:39
the street. But he was incredible. You know, we
20:41
don't line both love musical theater and
20:43
to be sitting there recreating Greece
20:46
WITH BOLTON WAS JUST A LIFE
20:48
DREAM COME
20:48
TRUE. SO I DO THAT EVERY TIME I DO KARIO
20:51
KEEP. SO BUT NO,
20:53
WE DO NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS
20:55
credible new
20:55
movie. You wrote it and
20:58
directed it. Yeah. A good
20:59
person. And I think it's beyond the
21:01
emotions because it runs the spectrum. There
21:03
is a authorists in this film. Mhmm. That's
21:05
like a full circle moment. So it
21:07
was beyond every emotion. And I have to
21:09
say, I love Morgan Freeman, but Florence
21:11
this was the most powerful performance I
21:13
have seen.
21:15
The the the scenes of her and and But she's
21:17
gonna start crying again. I SHE TRUSTINE,
21:20
LIKE HAVING ABOUT -- I CRIME TALKING OF EVERY TIME
21:22
I HAVE TALKED TO THE PRODUCER. I START CRIME --
21:24
IT IS -- VERY FEW MOVIES HAVE
21:26
THIS EFFECT ON ME AND THIS ONE I was
21:28
a garden state fan and I wasn't expecting garden
21:31
state, but like -- Yeah.
21:32
-- this is like a whole underground. The
21:35
writing, the directing
21:37
the performances.
21:38
Like, it's just I Thank
21:41
you so much. Yeah. It's really it's a gift to
21:43
have these two incredible performers. I mean, I think
21:45
she's the most young exciting young actress
21:47
of her generation. Mhmm. And he's, of course, the legend
21:50
that he is. So as a director and
21:52
a writer to have two of them go toe
21:54
to
21:54
toe. It was just it's miraculous
21:56
and I think they they're Jamil together. But where
21:59
did you get all the start? How did you end writing about
22:01
this because addiction and grief are themes
22:03
we see, like, so powerfully in
22:05
this. Like, what was the beginning
22:07
or the impetus for this? To be honest, I
22:09
I lost a a lot of people in the last four years.
22:11
I lost my my sister to an aneurysm and
22:13
then I lost my father to cancer. And
22:16
then during COVID, my best
22:18
friend, it was it was publicized because he was famous
22:20
Broadway
22:20
actor. My best friend, Nick Cordero, got
22:22
COVID at forty
22:23
one dollars. Right. And and
22:25
he was living in my guest house in Los Angeles.
22:28
So I had front row seat to the horror
22:30
of it. And so when I sat down and locked
22:32
down to write something, that's
22:34
what came up for me. What came up was
22:36
Braff. And how do we how do we as human beings
22:38
stand back up from grief? And
22:41
the Don't we stand back? Do we and
22:43
and the power of friendship, the power of love, and
22:45
sometimes that comes from from someone
22:47
you wouldn't expect it to. And so that's what
22:49
kind of came out of me. Like, this incredible friendship,
22:51
two people who are grieving in their own corners
22:53
and really need someone. And just
22:56
the fate kind of brings them together save
22:58
each other from themselves. And and the
23:00
fact that that was this young incredible
23:02
launch in new Florence Pugh and Morgan
23:04
Freeman, I I wrote it for Florence
23:06
and and and that's how it loads the genesis
23:08
of it. The because it was
23:11
the fascination is the way the stories kind of
23:13
cross, but, like, the simplicity of so many of the
23:15
scenes that make you feel the most it's just
23:17
so raw. Yeah. But
23:19
how did you dealt with a lot of grief, but
23:21
the addiction element is also very
23:24
that that's a huge part of
23:25
this. Yeah. Well, I think a lot of people
23:28
watching I imagine can relate to knowing someone
23:30
or having someone in their life who battles this,
23:32
particularly with the opioid epidemic. And it
23:34
just felt like a very, you know, current
23:36
thing to to to write about. And it is something
23:39
that happens to a lot of people. They they're involved
23:41
in an in an accident let's say, and
23:43
they need opioids -- Yeah. -- legitimately for
23:45
physical pain. But then they get addicted to
23:47
them and they get stuck on them and they're very, very hard
23:49
to get off
23:49
of. I forgot
23:50
Molly Shannon's in this since we're both phenomenon. And
23:52
I also wanna mention before we I know it
23:54
sounds very heavy and very muffling, but
23:56
there's a lot of humans out there. There's
23:59
laugh. Yeah.
23:59
Yeah. And thanks to Molly Shannon who brings a lot
24:01
of
24:03
Yeah. Yeah. like her. She's Sarah is still
24:05
crying, but she's a Morgan. On.
24:07
And you took Morgan to a different place
24:10
than we've seen in quite some
24:11
time. Yeah. How much fun was that?
24:13
Well, he's tough as you know. I think he's a gruff
24:15
man, but he really likes me. We made a comedy
24:18
together a few years back called Going In
24:20
Style. Right. And and and
24:22
so we bonded that there's a clip from there's a
24:24
shot from it. And we we bonded and he really liked
24:26
me. And what that did was it gave
24:29
him trust he trusted me.
24:31
Mhmm. And I had to of
24:32
course, I had to give myself a pep talk in the mirror every
24:35
morning. Like, you got this. Don't be intimidated by mister
24:37
Freeman. Yeah.
24:39
But he trusted me will be. And think
24:41
that that's why he was I was able
24:43
to push him to give the performance he gives because
24:46
I I may be
24:46
biased, but I think it's one of the finest performances
24:49
this year in a year. It is. Oh, it was very long time.
24:51
It is. Very long time. You
24:54
know, you you said already that you wrote this this
24:56
part for Florence, Pew,
24:58
and and she knocks it out of the park,
25:00
obviously. But we haven't
25:02
seen her in a role like this before. Yeah.
25:04
And she sings. Yeah.
25:06
How did that make it into the
25:08
film? Well, you know, we were we were partners
25:10
at the time. We did lockdown together. And
25:12
I knew that that she sang in real music.
25:15
It's it's almost like someone writing in a diary.
25:17
When she was going through something, she would noodles
25:19
on the piano or or the guitar, and she
25:21
would write songs to sort
25:23
of help her cope. Mhmm. And
25:25
I thought and I was writing. So I thought, oh, I'm
25:27
gonna I'm gonna put that in the script. That's so interesting.
25:30
And so then when Florence got the
25:32
script, she then took it
25:34
and wrote the two songs that a characteristic.
25:37
Character as the person. Yeah. Which is as
25:39
a director is something you never get to experience.
25:41
So the two songs that the character sings were
25:43
were written by Laurent's in
25:45
character.
25:45
Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. They're great songs
25:47
too. The soundtrack, that's something in Garden
25:50
State and this one that is so pronounced you
25:52
find yourself in a great movie stopping, and
25:54
kept thinking, this song, this song, and I
25:56
thought, you hit all the layers. But I'm not
25:58
gonna You gotta just
25:59
say, oh, I'm in that half. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But We
26:01
are
26:01
releasing the soundtrack for what it's worth.
26:03
Oh, good. Yeah. That's amazing. But New Jersey
26:05
also plays a huge part. Your Jersey boy
26:07
Yeah. -- proud. You even gotta go
26:09
back and shoot in your old high
26:11
school. Yeah. brought Morgan Freeman to my
26:13
high school. Oh,
26:15
yeah. There's a picture. Look. There's
26:17
him laughing at a picture tell you. Yeah.
26:20
I mean yeah. I mean, what I Did they weigh
26:22
you? What's that?
26:24
You're talking about being weighed in schools or No.
26:26
No. No. I didn't want us for weighed. You
26:30
know, I I really wanted to to to write
26:32
something authentic and raw, and I thought there there
26:34
was almost safety net. If I put it into
26:36
place, I really knew so well. Like, I know that
26:38
school. When I when you when you're a writer and you're
26:40
writing high school, you're writing your high school. I
26:42
thought, well, why don't I just go shoot in my high school?
26:44
You write And there's a there's pond in a little
26:47
pond in the movie. That was where I used to go as little
26:49
boy with my little remote control boat. And I
26:51
thought, I'm gonna bring Morgan Freeman to my
26:53
childhood duck
26:54
pond. And
26:54
why not? My childhood duck pond. Yes. Why
26:56
not? You know, listen. It it it
26:59
it's not a lot of people that get to make
27:01
magic happen in their lives the way that we
27:03
do as actors. Yeah. So this watching
27:05
this was quite extraordinary.
27:08
And really great to see you doing.
27:10
This this was yours. Yeah. And
27:13
I loved it.
27:13
Thank you woman. You did a a magnificent
27:16
job. And so we're gonna say our thanks
27:18
to Zac. He's found a good
27:20
person, premieres in theaters,
27:22
actual theaters, March twenty
27:24
fourth. Do yourself a
27:26
favor. Yes. You will not you will
27:28
not regret it. Yeah. If you will not regret
27:31
that. Thank
27:31
you. Thank you. We'll be right back.
27:43
Pro Shield, the most photographed woman
27:45
in the world. Iconic american beauty.
27:48
A sexualized child model,
27:50
exploitation, vulnerable. She
27:52
catapulted into the world of adult sexuality.
27:55
I'm amazed
27:57
that I survived
27:57
any of it. What happened to her
27:59
isn't me about or is it just about
28:02
women? I was just born with this face.
28:04
I wanted to think about the things that could have happened
28:06
without beauty.
28:17
Welcome back, directivist, Jamila
28:19
Jamila, always has plenty to say
28:21
around hot topics when she hits this
28:23
table. She's also hosting a new
28:25
podcast bad dates where
28:27
she and some famous friends share
28:30
ugly details of the nights. They
28:32
probably should have just stayed home.
28:34
Please welcome back to Milligan Mill.
28:52
Am. One off.
28:54
I like it. It's subtle, but it says it. I'm
28:56
so thank you. I'm shy.
28:59
I'll go back to the show. It's always a pleasure to
29:01
in
29:01
here. Yeah. So let's just jump in because you've got
29:03
everyone talking about their bad dates
29:05
now on your
29:06
podcast. So but
29:08
what made you decide to do that? Talk about little
29:10
bit. I mean, the podcast came about
29:12
because my former landlord came
29:15
up with it, and I you know what?
29:17
It it pays to be a good tenant for more
29:19
reasons than one. Enjoyed
29:21
reliving there and enjoyed me as a person.
29:23
That sounds sexual. It wasn't. Mhmm.
29:26
And and he came to me with this
29:28
concept because he feels like It
29:30
is the great equalizer. It doesn't matter how
29:32
rich or hot or smart
29:34
or funny or cool you are. Nobody.
29:36
None of you are safe. From
29:38
a bad date. Yeah. It's so true. And it's such
29:41
a contagious
29:41
subject. Yeah. Like leads to people sharing
29:43
and
29:44
over And you
29:45
remember Do you have that if you're
29:47
remembering it right now? Remembering
29:48
one right now. Yeah. But do you have that
29:50
many bet friends who've been on bad dates? Oh,
29:52
yeah. don't have mail in Hands up. Who's had a bad
29:54
day in this audience? Right? There we go.
29:57
I mean, that's an overwhelming. And also
29:59
for those who think they haven't had bad
30:01
date, maybe you or someone else's bad date.
30:03
Oh, that's true. TO COMMENT
30:06
HOP. THAT IS
30:06
SO TRUE. NOW I KNOW
30:09
THE ANSWER THIS, BECAUSE I HAVE LISTENED BUT HAVE YOU BEEN
30:11
ON MANY DISASTROUS STATES? I
30:14
have only been on few dates because I didn't
30:16
kiss anyone till I was twenty one, not for
30:18
lack of trying. I was throwing it out there.
30:21
No one wanted to cut I
30:24
am what you would call a serial erection
30:27
killer. I would have
30:29
my own, like, Netflix document
30:31
different areas about all the all the directions
30:34
I've had. I don't I don't I don't but
30:36
no, I can't. But in the short amount
30:38
time at which I did day. I had a
30:40
series of terrible
30:41
dates. But this show is not about, like, trauma.
30:43
It's not about
30:44
Is it the accent that makes it just flop
30:46
No. It's the personality. My
30:49
sister's personality. No. It's
30:51
not. Was that? I no.
30:53
Sista, I think it's generally the personality. Like,
30:55
I'm I'm a tricky. Like, don't believe this.
30:58
You're self deprecating. You're a second cash.
31:00
I don't I I don't know. Like, let's say, you'll
31:02
see. Okay. Asking you out officially
31:04
on
31:05
television. Sometimes, men don't like a strong
31:07
woman. They don't. It
31:08
wouldn't like A51. You would say
31:10
that
31:10
she's hilarious.
31:10
I it's not like I had every guy at my fingertips
31:13
now.
31:14
If you like that, that's enough. If you like that, that's not enough.
31:16
If you like
31:17
that, everybody will die. History
31:18
is tricky. Yeah. You
31:20
don't need to make me feel better about it. Wow. Wow.
31:22
Wow. Wow. Okay. Well, let's update
31:25
you on that point. It's just it's just It
31:27
was just never in the car to me. Like, I I
31:29
wait three months before I kiss or have sex
31:31
with
31:31
someone. So it's like the Hunger Games trying to
31:33
get to my feet. Yeah. Like, it's ridiculous.
31:36
III
31:37
was little bit about that on someone. You're
31:39
supposed to wait. no. I'm not even doing it
31:41
in that way. Oh, I'm just like I just don't
31:44
want see your until I'm ready.
31:47
Yeah. And
31:50
that's fair. I I'm
31:52
sorry.
31:54
And that is and that is
31:56
fair. Well,
31:58
let's move on to a lot of people can relate
32:01
to that. Why is I'm all dignified last
32:03
time. Sorry. I need to move on now because I'm
32:05
looking at the one Don't don't look at
32:07
them. I've got to look at I'm looking at our executive
32:09
producer who looks like he's
32:10
about to die. So let me behind.
32:13
Now So this was about to die about
32:15
ten minutes. Yeah. So let's move
32:16
like, I'm behind now. Now that's We're
32:18
gonna move on. Now that you've heard all of
32:21
these dating horror stories, do you have
32:23
any
32:23
suggestions? Mhmm. Right? For
32:25
those watching our show now, any red
32:28
flags to
32:28
avoid. Well, you heard one. Yeah.
32:30
I heard one. Look, that
32:32
everyone has their own different individual red
32:35
flags. I think therapy is key for
32:37
all of us to spare each other from
32:39
bad dates. Mhmm. And my only
32:41
dating advice out there is just never,
32:44
ever, and I've learned this from the podcast. Ever,
32:48
trust a heart. Don't
32:50
do it. Don't do it. It's
32:52
not your friend. You think it's your friend.
32:54
It's not. It ends up that did you say a a
32:56
fart? A fart? A fart is so much pretty dumb.
32:59
Trust it. He means don't trust it.
33:00
Like, you're angry. In front of someone. No. No.
33:02
No. No. It's it It
33:05
becomes something else sometimes, and we
33:07
just don't need to get into it because this morning
33:09
television. Okay. But you know what I'm saying? Too late.
33:11
Don't make me say it. Well,
33:13
we can pivot to something that
33:15
you're very passionate about beyond. I'm
33:17
a unbelievable segue. But basically,
33:19
I do just want to end on saying that the podcast
33:21
is Wild growth at
33:23
times. Absolutely hilarious.
33:24
And we
33:25
have some of the biggest comedians in the
33:27
world like Conan O'Brien and and
33:29
like Nicky Gail, listen to
33:30
Nattaro. Just bearing
33:33
all on this podcast. I'm like, I it's
33:35
gonna hold the rest of my life. And you're
33:37
all welcome on. Another thing I've known
33:40
about you for years is five years ago, you launched
33:42
an organization -- Yeah. -- and a
33:44
mental health movement called highway. That
33:46
was very powerful. It celebrates inclusivity
33:48
and body positivity. Mhmm. Now you're
33:50
taking on the concept of exercise.
33:53
So -- Mhmm. -- and explain this. Joy,
33:55
you're gonna love that. I'm sorry. No. You will
33:57
love
33:57
this. We keep here.
33:59
So you hate exercise as well? I
34:01
hate exercise. Right?
34:02
had an eighteenth
34:03
disorder for twenty years. I looked to exercise something
34:05
I just did to punish myself for eating.
34:07
It was all based around my aesthetic. And so
34:09
therefore, when I recovered from anorexia, I
34:11
didn't go near moving my body. I stayed
34:13
in bed for like eight years pretty much because
34:15
I just like I see it as this exclusive
34:18
club, this elitist place where you
34:20
have to dress a certain way in like
34:24
No problem. No. Sorry. In
34:27
in I
34:27
think I No. Hold on guys for my background.
34:29
Do you have a shot of Braff?
34:32
He's on the floor. I
34:33
apologize. I apologize. I apologize. That
34:36
is very bad language. So
34:38
but if you're wearing these, like, brows -- Yep.
34:40
-- and these leggings. And if you wanna wear the bras and
34:42
leggings, that's fine. So dude, I don't wanna wear
34:44
something that's lemon and see through in which I can
34:46
see, you know. So do do exercise or
34:48
don't Well, join me to show you this as he brought some footage.
34:51
Oh, okay. We're doing this.
34:54
That's it. 0II
34:56
do something like that. You do it on
34:58
YouTube. Right. Pizza I knew that is.
35:00
So I'm eating like eating and
35:02
I'm doing Arabic to disco
35:04
music. wearing baggy clothing. You
35:06
can't see any of my body. I am trying
35:08
to take on like a punk alternative
35:11
vibe when it comes to exercise where it's not about
35:13
your body. Is not about how you look at the
35:15
gym. You don't have to wear makeup at the gym. I look like a baboons
35:18
bum when I'm working out. Yeah. I don't want
35:20
anyone to feel excluded. The word exclusive
35:22
shouldn't be a desirable term. It means it's moving
35:24
people. Yeah. I hate the term no pain no
35:26
game. No pain no game. Like, we
35:29
we are in a culture obsessed with
35:32
diet culture and exercise and
35:34
punishment and and self-depth,
35:36
like and and taking
35:38
away from ourselves and what I love about exercises
35:40
about
35:41
that, you know, because when I went to Marvel, they
35:43
made me gain weight and they made me train six a
35:45
week and a week. First time I've had a nice job
35:47
without having to think about being
35:48
thinner. Right. Yep. Yeah.
35:51
But it meant that I my mental health improved
35:53
tenfold, and I've never seen it like that. Yeah.
35:55
It
35:55
changes the endorphins release, the dopamine,
35:58
it makes you sleep better, you have stress
36:00
relief, all these benefits that you were going
36:02
to get. We love you. Otherwise,
36:04
you have to come back. Yes.
36:06
Jameela
36:10
New episodes come on high podcast,
36:13
Fridays, drop Mondays on
36:15
Amazon Music and
36:17
oneury blush since like
36:19
we will be right back. Well,
36:32
you know, this was a good day. Really
36:34
interesting. Yeah. Thanks for coming.
36:36
Thanks for watching. We want you all to have great
36:38
day. Take a little time to enjoy the view, and
36:40
we will see you tomorrow.
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