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Creator Spotlight: IvanPatch

Released Wednesday, 24th January 2024
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Creator Spotlight: IvanPatch

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Wednesday, 24th January 2024
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0:00

Welcome to your go-to source for entertainment

0:03

. Wait for it .

0:05

Gaming , wait for it . Anime

0:07

Plus Ultra . Mr

0:11

Eric Almighty and Phil the Filipino yeah

0:14

, they've got you covered , and all you

0:16

gotta do is Wait for it .

0:35

Hey everyone , welcome back to the Wait for it podcast

0:37

. I am your co-host , phil Smith , aka

0:39

Phil the Filipino , and joining me , as always

0:42

, is your other co-host , mr Eric Almighty . And

0:44

Eric , we are here with the very first

0:46

Creator Spotlight of 2024

0:49

. This is a series we introduced

0:51

last year and it has been

0:53

rolling , and we've had so much fun

0:55

speaking with our guest . And

0:57

we have a guest on here today that is

0:59

returning and who has been part of the podcast

1:02

for a very , very long time . But we are going to have a little

1:04

bit of a different conversation here today

1:06

, as opposed to the one you had with him a

1:08

couple of years ago now , which is crazy that we've

1:10

all known each other for so long . So super

1:13

excited for this , as we are hanging out here

1:15

on a Sunday afternoon , the Jaguars have

1:17

been eliminated from the playoffs , so we were like , yeah , what the hell , let's

1:19

hang out with some of our other friends and get

1:22

this done .

1:22

That's

1:24

exactly what we said , and it also doesn't

1:26

help that we sing the

1:28

praises of our guests so much , but every

1:30

time we see him he's like are you ever going to ?

1:32

have a podcast again Because he

1:34

doesn't watch any of our show records .

1:37

That is not true .

1:40

Well , you know , ivan is with us

1:42

, aka Ivan Patch , and we

1:45

are just so overjoyed to have you

1:47

on again . You know we had some clips from

1:49

you from the end of year awards , which was awesome

1:51

. Ivan , you are a madman

1:53

right now from cons to cons

1:55

, so we appreciate you making the time

1:57

. How's your Sunday going so far

2:00

? How are you doing so ?

2:02

for the hello Sunday . I

2:05

woke up very early today to edit

2:07

a vlog for conventions that I did At

2:09

the end of last year , so

2:12

I'm already behind because the schedule is not

2:14

the best . But you know , things

2:16

are okay . Just a little stacked

2:18

, honestly . Just

2:21

a little too stacked , if I'm being honest

2:23

. I could understand that .

2:25

I mean I would assume you'd like to have more cons than less . So

2:28

now that you've moved into this full

2:30

time from the last time that we spoke which is

2:32

pretty awesome , and I know you

2:34

had some things kind of happen at the end of last

2:37

year's of challenges , so we'll kind

2:39

of get into all of that but we're

2:41

just so super excited to have you on

2:43

board and tell us a little bit , ivan

2:46

, for people that didn't listen to

2:48

our episode , together we did an intro

2:50

to anime episode . You gave us a little

2:52

bit of your background there and we dive

2:54

deep into your journey into

2:56

anime , which I'm sure we'll have in the show notes

2:59

of this episode as well . But just

3:01

for anyone that's not going to check that out or

3:03

hearing about you for the first time , can

3:05

you give us a little bit of an idea of what

3:08

you do as an artist

3:10

and how you kind of got into the medium ?

3:12

Okay well , so I'm

3:14

trying to keep this short . So I

3:17

paint , I do art , but

3:20

I mean I've always just been into anime

3:22

since I was a kid my and comic

3:24

books . Honestly , it was like comic books and manga

3:26

mostly , and then it like deviated

3:29

into anime because it was there . But

3:32

no , I always like had an affinity

3:34

for it and I just I went

3:36

to school for animation and then never thought

3:38

I would do cons . I was like , oh , I'll go animate

3:40

whatever . But this is back in the day

3:42

when you know it wasn't that easy to

3:44

animate and there was a lot of lying and

3:47

colleges back then . Oh yeah , you're good at job . But

3:49

then as years went by , my friends kept telling

3:52

me , oh , just like your art's good , just do conventions

3:54

. So I was like , no , I'm not . But I

3:56

always drew , always painted watercolors , like

3:58

what little watercolor cards that I had and always

4:01

chose like animes that I feel like

4:03

nobody paid attention to , because we always have the same

4:05

for that everybody loved and

4:07

or not , that they loved

4:10

, but they were the most like in your face . And

4:13

then I started painting other things , like niche animes

4:15

, and then got into digital and just

4:18

started , then went to a con and

4:20

it went pretty well and I said , oh yeah , I'll try this

4:22

some more . And it just

4:24

continued to get . I

4:26

know better , honestly , like . And then my art

4:28

just keeps growing because I keep meeting other artists and

4:30

like seeing what they do and we

4:32

all give each other advice and little tips like , oh , this is really

4:34

cool , I tried this and it was really , it really worked

4:37

, or whatever . And then you try it out and it ends up being

4:39

good . So , yeah , paint

4:42

digital . I'm

4:44

even like trying to craft things now . It's

4:47

yeah . So I just keep . I

4:49

get bored if I stick to one

4:51

medium only , so I keep trying to have other

4:53

things . So , but yeah

4:55

, I know that I answered the question well , because I have . You know

4:58

, I ran a lot .

5:00

So that definitely answered the question . Well

5:02

, a jack of all trades . I

5:04

mean it's crazy because , like you

5:07

said , you know your friends were like , yeah , you

5:09

should do conventions . And , eric , like there was a time

5:11

where we thought like mega con was like the only thing

5:13

. And then you and then all of a sudden

5:15

, like this whole world opens up and you're like , oh , they're

5:17

like , you know , there are smaller conventions , that you

5:20

know that , where you can meet a lot of people

5:22

that you wouldn't , and maybe some of those other , those

5:24

bigger ones , because they're just starting out . And then

5:27

that's how you kind of like , form these kind of relationships

5:29

. What was the moment where you

5:31

did kind of realize , oh , this is something I could

5:34

make a career and

5:36

it could be more of a consistent way

5:38

for me to to share my art and also

5:40

, you know , earn a little money .

5:43

Who see , my answer is not

5:45

a smart answer and I

5:47

don't tell . I tell people , don't

5:49

do what I did . My first con

5:52

was Metro con in 2019 . And

5:54

on the second day , tampa is in

5:56

Tampa , yes . And the second day

5:58

I went oh , I can make a living

6:01

out of this . And that was only my

6:03

first con . That is not smart . But

6:06

I didn't like , I went

6:08

, I did , I did do the smart thing and didn't

6:11

like quit my job immediately or anything Like

6:13

I stayed at my full time job for four

6:16

years , five years , four years or

6:18

so , whatever , like as I

6:21

was still doing cons , because , like my

6:23

second day of that , first of my

6:25

first con , I was like , oh , I could do this , hands

6:27

out , I want to do this full time , like for sure . And

6:30

you know , a couple of people like my parents

6:32

were like don't you dare

6:35

think after one show

6:37

, you're going to go full time and you're going to be making

6:39

millions or something . I'm like I didn't say make millions

6:41

, like where that come from , but like

6:44

, so I will say that condiment

6:46

before that way . But I decided to be smart

6:48

about it and then just like , try a bunch of them first

6:50

to see , like , how the average would go . And

6:53

then , of course , what happened was in 2020 we

6:55

had our pandemic and no conventions

6:57

. So I only had two under my belt

7:00

before the pandemic happened and

7:02

luckily I still did good for that year

7:04

because I mean , I hate to say that and other

7:06

people had issues and everything

7:08

and I'm apologetic for that . But I

7:11

had a lot of like regulars or followers

7:13

already that like wanted commissions

7:16

. So I did a lot of commissions that year and

7:18

that's kind of what kept like the

7:20

boat afloat until

7:22

they're like what ? Like that half at

7:24

the middle of the year or near the end of the year , then when things

7:26

started to open back up and so but

7:28

yeah , I tell people all the time when

7:31

people ask because this is happening now , people ask me

7:33

like , oh , I see you icons all the time . What do you

7:35

think is a good time ? When I want to like , if I want to quit my

7:37

job , I'm like , um , don't ask me , because

7:39

I that is . I do not have a good answer for

7:42

that because I felt great the first

7:44

con , but I didn't quit . I

7:46

held my job a little too long . I

7:48

probably should have quit a little sooner than I did , but

7:50

everyone's is different , you know you

7:52

got to do the math yourself . But it's

7:55

about feeling and yeah , I

7:57

didn't really listen to my feeling . I tried to be more

7:59

rational and I don't know

8:01

that worked either for me .

8:03

Like whenever , whenever we have one episode that hits

8:05

like triple digit downloads , I tell Eric . I was like

8:07

let's quit our jobs , we can do this .

8:09

We were right , we're going to

8:11

tick tock , that explodes .

8:15

I'm like , yeah , I'm quitting my boss to fuck off right

8:17

now .

8:20

It's a . It's a maddening world

8:22

that we live in to be able to do

8:24

the things that we love and want

8:26

to do the things that we love . So often I

8:29

think I've been where it definitely envy is just

8:31

because you get to do that and

8:33

you work so hard at it and the results

8:36

obviously are so great . You

8:38

know we'll have a link to your shop in the show

8:40

notes as well . Highly recommend you guys

8:42

check Ivan out . I've done this , I think

8:44

, in the pre show , but both of us have artwork

8:47

from Ivan literally

8:49

in our backgrounds , with Dobby and chainsaw

8:51

man . I have a mob literally

8:53

over here and a couple other things that I still need

8:55

to put up . So highly recommend

8:58

checking out his work . But , ivan

9:00

, a lot of people are going to check out your work

9:02

because you're at like every con . Now I

9:05

looked at your schedule at . January

9:07

going into February , you have like a

9:09

four con in five

9:11

weeks schedule . In fact , I think this is the only

9:13

week in between that that you're not going

9:15

to be doing it . So I just want to ask , like

9:17

, how's your preparation

9:19

for that much volume

9:21

? How has that been going , from

9:24

the cons you've already gone to this year

9:26

and the cons you're going to because I mean , the

9:28

next two are pretty big .

9:30

So that is the most stressful part

9:32

of anything . Doing

9:34

the art doesn't bother me . I like this

9:37

sounds egotistical and I apologize , but I don't

9:39

tend to have creators block . It's

9:41

only because I watch a lot of movies and I watch a lot

9:43

of anime and a lot of . I mean I watch a lot of content

9:45

like and I try to go for like very

9:48

especially when I'm drawing or painting I try to

9:50

go for something that's , I guess , a

9:52

little more out there , like , maybe not like

9:54

. People will say , oh , I just watch . If they watch

9:56

anything when they work , they go . I watch reruns of

9:58

stuff . I say I only watch reruns of

10:00

stuff when I'm like the like it's the last

10:02

two or three days before a con , because at that point

10:05

I'm just touching things up . It's

10:07

not I don't have to be as a

10:09

creative thinker , I guess , but

10:12

when I'm in the process of like figuring , like

10:14

all the art out and stuff , I tend to put

10:17

on a lot of like creative things like

10:19

movies , you know , shows , anime , whatever . But

10:22

is the preparing and like

10:24

and like getting all the inventory

10:26

and stuff is like the hardest part for me . I

10:29

have a tendency to over I be

10:31

a little over dramatic during those days and

10:33

then my husband's like bro , you need to relax , like

10:35

, but I'm like you don't get it . I get this done

10:37

and this done and this done , and then there's that , and then there's

10:40

this , and I didn't order the prince yet I

10:42

didn't do this . Like , what am I going to do ? Like

10:44

, and with the cons coming up , which

10:46

is mega con , which is the like , honestly

10:48

, that's the no offense to the other cons or

10:50

whatever , but that is the one that I'm I

10:53

worry about the most . Like I , because

10:56

it's the . It's the one that it's like the Super Bowl for me , honestly

10:59

, before mega con , it would be four

11:01

days , yeah , yeah . So , yeah

11:03

, and for me I'm , I'm on the

11:05

go for , like obviously , those

11:07

four days , but then the day before is set up and

11:09

all that stuff . So , like for those five days

11:11

I'm like , I'm like

11:14

I'm a pure adrenaline and

11:16

people think , oh , you're at a con , you just sit there . No

11:18

, I understand why you think that that's fine , but

11:21

like there's a lot of people to coordinate

11:23

with and like regular is you're going to see and then

11:25

trying to get new people and then you're meeting all your friends

11:27

that you haven't seen in a while or whatever . Granted

11:30

, there's a lot of us that go to the same shows , but there's a lot

11:32

of other ones that I haven't seen in a while . So , like you're just

11:34

trying to like keep that energy

11:36

up and and preparing beforehand is just hard . Like

11:38

I literally just made a work

11:41

just the past week for five days straight , finishing

11:43

three prints that I need to have a mega

11:45

con and they're not prints that I print at home , like

11:48

they by 10s I print at home . But like the

11:50

bigger ones , I get them made out

11:52

and they have a certain

11:54

deadline . Like , hey , it's going to take us this month , it's going to take us this much

11:57

time to get them to you . You need to make an

11:59

order by this day and

12:01

the shop I use they

12:03

had to close down for the closing down for a week , some family

12:05

things and and

12:07

the thing is that if I wait till

12:10

they get back , I won't have my stuff for Meganecon . So

12:12

I was like , oh my God , I was like up night

12:15

after night . Like I was like go to bed is three in

12:17

the morning , why are you awake ? I'm like , why are you awake ? You

12:19

go to sleep Like I just keep working

12:21

. So like that's the part that

12:24

gets to me and I'm trying

12:26

to be more proactive in the future with these shows coming

12:28

out , because there's so many conventions back to back . Like

12:30

I'm just trying to make bigger orders upfront

12:33

and maybe

12:35

be a little more , maybe

12:38

a little less productive , because I

12:40

think I am a bit too productive . I

12:43

only make time for very little

12:45

time for certain things , like my husband's like hey

12:47

, it's watching a new episode , one piece or something . Yeah

12:49

, I'm going to do that . It's one piece . I'm like I'm going

12:51

to stop it , but like that . And then

12:53

a couple of movies like I'll do that , like if my

12:55

friends say , hey , I want to go check out this movie and I'm like

12:57

you know what , I can give myself a break to

12:59

go do that , but I got to get back and work , you know . So , yeah

13:02

, that's the hardest part , honestly

13:04

.

13:05

Yeah , eric , and I don't think we really understood . And obviously

13:08

we're in a different space when we work conventions

13:10

, you know , you know Ivan's vending , but we're

13:12

doing other things . And I don't think until we did

13:15

our first one that we

13:17

realized , oh , we're like ever running around

13:19

everywhere , like there really is not

13:21

that moment . So like we have found , I

13:24

think , a little bit of a , like a comfort in

13:26

that first hour of a convention where we don't

13:28

really have anything to do . It's

13:30

kind of quiet , you know , we can walk around

13:32

, like it's like the golden hour of the convention

13:34

it's , but it's in the beginning of the show

13:37

where we're like all right , let's relax . And then

13:39

takes the time because , like you know , even though

13:41

we're prepping for different things the weeks leading

13:43

up to that convention , we're making sure we have everything

13:45

, we're going over the schedule , we're going over which guests

13:48

, where you know what we're going to do , what Eric

13:50

is going to do , what I'm going to do , and then you have that like

13:52

one little bit of time where you can just like relax

13:54

for a little bit before it gets crazy . So

13:57

I think it's , it's good to

13:59

hear that you at least do give yourself that time to go

14:01

to a movie or , you know , go watch a show or

14:03

something like that , because that's just good advice for

14:05

anybody who is up against

14:07

a deadline . Like you do have to take that time where you

14:09

just have to relax and do something

14:11

for yourself Super important .

14:14

Yeah , I have been telling

14:16

people one piece of advice

14:18

that I'm being hypocritical on . I

14:21

don't do as I say make

14:24

sure you give yourself time to eat . I

14:26

don't do that . I'm really bad

14:28

about that and everyone

14:30

in my life is giving me crap about it . And

14:33

they're not wrong . I 100% agree . But

14:36

when you're in the zone , I'm sorry you're

14:38

not like I'm going to go cook something . No , okay

14:40

, so yeah . So I say

14:42

that to people make sure you give yourself time to eat .

14:46

So love that . And you know I wasn't surprised

14:49

at all . Usually Phil

14:51

gives me a lot of crap , but Ivan's

14:53

the first person to bring up one piece . We're

14:56

only a little bit into this and one

14:58

piece has gotten .

14:59

Don't fill up , don't listen , don't be walking

15:01

away , okay .

15:04

Listen , I'm just saying it is . It

15:06

is great . I don't know if you know this . You've

15:08

probably heard some of the episodes . Me and my family are

15:11

getting into the one piece journey , loving it

15:13

, having a great time Phil

15:15

, just going to hear the same , the same

15:17

monologue that I usually

15:19

do . But you know I do

15:21

want to mention that . You know , one

15:24

piece is such a influential , you

15:27

know , product to what you do . Are

15:29

there any other just kind of like

15:31

big name anima's that

15:34

you would say heavily inspired the

15:36

artwork that you do , whether it's the shading

15:39

of a color that you use or the type of

15:42

design sets that you use that you that

15:44

you favor ? What is ? What are those series

15:46

for you that really stand out outside of just

15:48

one piece ?

15:49

So some of these are

15:51

going to be a controversial because people are going to be like really

15:54

that inspired you . But

15:56

honestly , besides

15:58

one piece , sailor Moon was a very , very

16:01

it's very influential

16:03

for me because , like the

16:05

backgrounds for the 90s anime had a very like

16:08

watercolor gouache kind of like feeling

16:10

, and I love watercolors and

16:13

that's how I started doing the conventions , where

16:15

there's my little watercolor cards that I used to have and

16:17

I mean now I don't anymore because you know you evolve

16:20

and grow out of it or whatever . I'm not going to grow out of it . I just I don't

16:22

know , I don't feel my watercolor work is that strong

16:24

, but um , with

16:27

you know , like . So when it comes to that , like I would say , sailor Moon was super

16:30

influential and , honestly , dragon Ball like

16:32

Nazi I'm going to talk about Z , but

16:35

Dragon Ball because my natural

16:37

drawing style is like a mix of like Dragon

16:39

Ball and Scott Pilgrim , like

16:41

it's kind of like kind of how my

16:43

character design seemed to look like my , even my little chibi

16:45

avatar that I have and I think his face

16:47

structure is like Goku from Dragon Ball , and

16:50

then the way the colors are . To

16:53

be honest , I really can't , if

16:55

I was to pinpoint something about how I do

16:57

my shading or coloring . I

16:59

really can't figure out what is influenced

17:02

for me besides just saying all

17:04

anime I do the cell

17:06

shading kind of thing and anime's always done

17:08

that , and I think

17:10

the Scott Pilgrim anime is the closest thing

17:12

that goes to how I normally would do

17:15

my art and that didn't come out

17:17

until recently . So like I can't

17:20

say like oh , I saw into the future and I just like

17:22

said , oh , scott Pilgrim , when that comes out .

17:25

You heard , you heard it here , guys . Ivan

17:27

is the sole influencer for the

17:29

animation of the new Scott Pilgrim

17:31

anime Phil , a show that we still , I

17:34

think , have some interest to watch , because we mentioned

17:36

how much of a better medium that would be compared

17:39

to our experience with the movie . Is that

17:41

something that you're ever going to watch ?

17:42

Oh yeah , for sure it's in my queue . I've

17:45

just been watching some other things other

17:47

things that I've hidden from Eric , that I will reveal

17:49

at a later date but

17:51

I also am trying to hit 50

17:54

new movies this year , so like

17:56

I'm already off to a great start , I've done

17:58

three , so to varying

18:01

levels of success . Some of

18:03

them are good , a couple of them have been really bad

18:05

. So , yeah , I definitely want to get to

18:07

it for sure , and you know we talked

18:09

about this with the Blue Eye Samurai episode

18:11

, eric . I mean , we're paying all this money for Netflix . I might as

18:13

well use it .

18:16

I agree .

18:17

Good argument , even though I don't pay for mine . You

18:20

know , come on now , Ivan . Well

18:22

, that is against the rules .

18:24

Yeah , wait a minute , it's part

18:26

of it . It's part of the family , because it's

18:28

actually part of the household , because originally

18:31

I was the second one , so

18:33

it's still kind of me in the household . So which

18:35

, hey , I'm going to take it .

18:38

So we'll see . I pay for

18:40

the Netflix and someone else has given me Hulu

18:42

, so it's kind of all like you know . Any

18:44

even evens out .

18:46

Sounds like a loophole . That's what that sounds like

18:48

, but you know we're not going to wretch out . We're

18:51

not going to wretch out , but

18:53

yeah , no , ivan , we really appreciate you sharing

18:55

that with us . I know we're going to be seeing you

18:57

in person . We

18:59

have plans to go to Megacon on Sunday

19:01

, you know fingers crossed , although we are waiting

19:04

on hearing back about a panel . So

19:06

just a little spoiler that that may

19:08

or may not change , but we're

19:10

going to definitely see you at Brick City

19:13

Anime Festival , which is always a joy

19:15

. They have a crazy lineup

19:17

this year . It's insane .

19:21

It is a wild like yeah , I'm excited .

19:23

I think , it's there . Is there

19:25

anything specifically that you're looking forward

19:27

to , not only at Brick City , but

19:29

just like anything on the horizon at

19:31

some of these cons , like a guest or

19:34

maybe an art , piece of art that you're getting ready

19:36

to create or have in mind ? Is there something

19:38

that kind of gets the juices flowing , it gets you

19:40

excited ?

19:41

So I mean all the above because

19:44

Megacon is just there's just a

19:46

lot . So I'm excited about that one , just in general , because there's a

19:48

lot going on . But Brick City I forgot

19:50

his name and I hate that I always forget their names . But

19:53

the voice actor who did Yousuke

19:55

from Yu-Yu Hakusho , who

19:57

also is Kirishima from my Hero

19:59

as well , he's going to be

20:01

a Brick City and no offense to everyone else who's going to be there

20:03

, like that's cool , whatever , but

20:06

I , he doesn't get to go , he doesn't go to shows

20:09

that much . So I

20:11

and Yu-Yu Hakusho Yu-Suke Yurimeshi

20:13

is like one of the characters that I grew up on . So

20:15

I have a painting I want to do

20:17

of Yu-Suke , I have some prints I want to do , so

20:20

it's going to be , honestly , brick City is going to be

20:22

my Yu-Yu Hakusho

20:24

fiesta and kind of a thing .

20:27

So I'm going to have a lot of you go . Yeah

20:30

, yeah , justin Cook is

20:32

the voice actor that's going to be there and

20:35

they've got , like , so many different people

20:37

from Chainsaw man , jujutsu

20:39

, kaisen , my Hero Academia , hell's

20:42

Paradise .

20:43

Ivan , which you put me on .

20:45

Super exciting . So they've

20:47

got the lead character and then one of the side characters

20:50

that are going to be there as well , so

20:52

a hell of a lineup that

20:54

I'm super excited for as well .

20:56

I kind of forgot that the voice

20:58

for Gabi Madu from Hell's Paradise is going to be there

21:00

. I completely forgot who you just said it . So now I'm

21:02

like trying to control myself because

21:04

he was again . I forgot

21:07

his name , but he was the one that when

21:09

they announced a dub and I didn't see who

21:11

it was yet , I said , oh , he's going to be

21:13

Gabi Madu , there's no way he's not going to be . And then

21:15

they announced that it was him and I was like , oh OK . So

21:17

like now I got to make something like

21:19

when I go see him at a show , because I didn't

21:21

get to go to the last two shows that he was at .

21:23

So yeah , alejandro

21:27

, saab , there's two as in the arm , so

21:29

I'm probably mispronouncing that , but , alejandro

21:32

, I'm pretty confident he's

21:34

not the spell itself . No

21:36

, definitely super exciting . And yeah

21:39

, just again as we do the

21:41

Creator Spotlight episode . Just getting to talk

21:43

to people about their loves , their passions

21:46

, their crafts is always a great

21:48

time and , ivan , you're one of the most passionate

21:50

people that we know when it comes to that . So

21:53

we just really appreciate you taking the

21:55

time to talk to us about that . But

21:57

, phil , we have a couple of games

21:59

that we had scheduled

22:01

to play . Both of us have

22:03

one I've got I'm bringing back one on here

22:05

, and then , phil , you're bringing one from the

22:08

what Did I Miss series that we do , which

22:10

I wouldn't be surprised if Ivan makes an

22:12

appearance there . Our bonus episode

22:15

we're doing every month that we're getting recurring guests

22:17

for . So just a little spoiler and

22:19

also kind of an unofficial invite , ivan , that

22:21

we're probably going to ask you to come on that , I'm

22:23

fine with that .

22:26

I need avenues to talk , so there

22:29

we go .

22:29

I wish we would have time to record one at

22:31

a convention , like get a room and then

22:34

everybody be in there . I don't know that it

22:36

would be able to . It's probably not possible just

22:38

because of our schedules , but it would

22:40

be fun to get people in

22:42

there and record one in person . But yeah

22:44

, I think we'll have a couple of

22:47

games . I also found a list , eric , so if you guys want

22:49

to do a list , if we do have time I

22:51

might also found a top 10 list that we can do . Who do

22:53

you want to do your game first ? So you want me to go ?

22:57

Let's have you go first because you have a backup , so

22:59

that way . So I'll go second and if

23:01

we , if we feel like we want to throw in that

23:03

list at the end , I'm , I'm , I'm . Game sounds

23:06

like I've been . Yeah , I know so absolutely Awesome

23:08

.

23:08

Well , I mean , if you didn't see this game in

23:11

our in our December episode of what

23:13

Did I Miss , it is a guest

23:15

. The movie based on the

23:17

negative letterboxed review . So

23:19

these are user reviews of

23:22

movies , and then these are all anime films . So

23:24

I've picked five anime films and

23:26

you guys will get to guess which

23:28

ones they are talking about . Eric , I think

23:31

the . I think maybe there's only one on this list

23:33

you haven't seen , but you will be very

23:35

familiar with it . It is a . It is a very

23:37

iconic movie . All right

23:39

, let's start with the first one

23:41

here . Let's

23:43

start from the top . This

23:45

movie fucking sucks . First of all

23:47

, the girl is annoying and I kind of want to shove

23:50

her down and laugh at her while she's on

23:52

the ground . Also , there's no bad bitches

23:54

at all . Why am I watching something for two hours

23:56

If there's not a single bad bitch to look

23:58

at ? Weird ass movie and everyone

24:00

rating it higher than one star . You were officially

24:02

a level 10 dick writer and I do not

24:05

like you .

24:07

Oh my god , that

24:10

was very strong . That

24:13

was very intense .

24:15

All right , and this is just any movie like

24:17

, just in general , yeah .

24:19

Yeah , an anime , that's an

24:21

anime .

24:21

It was in .

24:21

December .

24:22

In the anime .

24:23

I'm sorry you said it . Wait , did they

24:25

say the date of when that one was ?

24:27

Well , I didn't put the date in . No , dang

24:29

, ok that would help me decide that would help me figure

24:31

it out .

24:33

That is tough , there's no , bad ass bitches

24:35

.

24:37

That's what stuck in my head .

24:38

For some reason , that part , but

24:41

there was a girl , yes

24:43

, there was , and they did not like very much my

24:47

gut , my guts , telling me that Phil

24:49

would pick a studio ghibli film .

24:51

Yes , me too . Off the bat . That's what I was thinking

24:53

.

24:55

But I don't . Is it spirited

24:58

away you ?

25:00

have a guess , Ivan .

25:01

Do I think of a girl that they think will be annoying ? Hmm

25:05

, ok , let

25:07

me think , let me think real hard . Hold on , I'm trying

25:09

to be quick , bro . Oh , wow

25:12

See , I feel like spirited away is

25:14

what I would pick , because like

25:16

kind of like how Eric chose , because like she's

25:19

a little girl in it and there's no bad ass bitches

25:21

in it , I guess , and

25:23

some people do think that Chihiro was annoying

25:25

, but I mean , I guess , yeah , I'll

25:27

go with spirited away as well . It is spirited

25:29

away .

25:30

Ok , I

25:33

thought that was a little harsh and even though I didn't particularly

25:36

enjoy the movie , yeah , that

25:38

was Can't wait , Can't wait to use this on . These

25:41

are all half star reviews , by the way . Also

25:43

, this is not us . We did not leave these

25:45

reviews . The love of .

25:46

God , I don't know , I don't know .

25:48

I think you did . I filled it in oh you know what I ? Think filled

25:50

it . I think those fills review .

25:52

I didn't use my burner account . That wasn't me , sorry , I

25:54

forgot to hide that Because that was intense

25:56

.

25:56

My God , like that was there .

25:58

There's some intense ones on here , here we go . Next one

26:00

. All right , let's see

26:03

. Ok , let's go to the next

26:05

one here . This

26:07

movie is how I learned to stop worrying and

26:10

be really bored for two hours . It

26:12

is an uninspired and visually

26:14

unimpressive snooze fest through

26:16

a dystopic new Tokyo filled

26:19

to bursting with motorcycle riding juggalos

26:21

, the world's least effective army units

26:23

in the world where France presumably still exists

26:26

and extremely unlikeable and ugly weirdo

26:28

mutant kids . There's some stupid

26:30

bullshit about the Olympics and societal

26:32

decay , but all in all , it's just a waste

26:34

of everyone's time and , frankly , everyone involved

26:36

should have given up or try harder Zero

26:39

out of 10 . Consider a Hardy Boys novel

26:41

instead .

26:42

This is already the easiest , the easiest

26:45

one out of all of them . Let's

26:47

go . It's a Kira , obviously .

26:50

Phil , I think these are just your

26:52

reviews of the film . I think , if

26:54

we play the tape back , you basically

26:56

said this on an episode .

26:57

I'm not going to go in balls , but I'm not going to read

26:59

a Hardy Boys book over , so

27:02

I don't .

27:03

I do feel like these reviews .

27:04

I don't think so . So , yeah , like here

27:06

. Well , I also . I didn't give a Kira half

27:09

star , so none of these can could

27:11

possibly be me .

27:14

Well , we can see that they're half stars though , so

27:16

you could be lying and you . I didn't

27:18

get to do the .

27:19

I didn't get to do the PowerPoint presentation like I did

27:21

.

27:23

And what did I miss ?

27:24

Yeah , all right , excellent here Visually

27:27

flat , horrendously scored . Dialogue

27:29

is badly written and exposition laden

27:31

. The story is all is alt right Chemtrails

27:34

, conspiracy , anti-authoritarian

27:37

rubbish . The worst animation I've seen

27:39

in my life . The only redeeming moment was the

27:41

garbage truck driver with the implanted

27:43

memories , and even that's nicked from Blade Runner

27:45

. An embarrassment to culture .

27:50

Truck driver .

27:52

I'm trying to think , phil

27:54

, is this a movie I would know about or that I've

27:56

seen ?

27:57

You know about it .

28:02

Okay , sorry , so

28:06

everybody , I hit my hand .

28:09

Oh , you two will see it .

28:11

I'm leaving that in . That's

28:14

unfortunate . Read it again

28:16

. Or at least the first two sentences

28:18

I remember , but after that I

28:20

can't remember what it was after that .

28:21

The worst animation I've seen in my life . The only

28:24

redeeming moment was the garbage truck driver

28:26

with the implanted memories . And even that's nicked

28:28

from Blade Runner . An embarrassment to culture

28:30

. This is one of the , I'll say

28:32

, I'll give you guys a little hint . This is one

28:34

of , like the , I would say , pillar

28:37

anime films . Is it Ghost

28:39

in the Shell , eric ? Do you

28:41

have a guess ?

28:43

I'm going to trust his judgment . Ghost in the Shell , it's Ghost in the Shell

28:45

. I knew it .

28:47

How dare they say wait ? Oh my God , are

28:50

they judging the anime movie ?

28:51

or is it all action garbage ? No , these are the anime . Yeah

28:53

, this is the end . He hit Addy . Okay , I

28:55

can't handle this .

28:57

I feel like you chose .

28:58

He's a target me to hurt my heart , we've

29:00

never discussed Ghost in the Shell . I have no idea

29:02

. That's true . That's true , it's true . All

29:04

I know is Scarlett Johansson was fantastic

29:07

. That's what I heard .

29:07

Okay , I'm not even going to touch that topic

29:10

. Perfect guess , am I not even mad at her ? I'm

29:12

just mad at the direction . But either way , I'm not even going to

29:14

touch that topic .

29:16

Based on how some of these older anime films have gone

29:18

for us . Eric , I don't even know if we should watch that for

29:20

a late to the party .

29:23

Yeah , I don't think you'll like

29:25

it . It's not going to be honest , yeah

29:27

.

29:27

Oh , ivan , we'll do a quick break here . So

29:31

obviously you've heard that Phil

29:33

has had a hard time with Studio

29:36

Ghibli films . Have you

29:38

ever watched Porco Rosso ? Yeah

29:40

, do you

29:42

think , based off of his disdain

29:44

for Spirited Away and the

29:46

Born in the Heron ?

29:47

I don't have disdain for Spirited Away . Born

29:49

in the Heron . Yes , I have disdain for . I don't have disdain

29:51

for Spirited Away .

29:52

Based off of his unsatisfactory

29:55

levels of Studio Ghibli so far and arguably

29:57

two big films out of that , do you think he

29:59

would like it ? Because one of our patrons

30:01

, briar , wants us to watch it and

30:04

we will , but I don't want to break his

30:06

heart , so I want to kind of prepare , I

30:08

think , for the worst .

30:09

I mean out of all . If out

30:12

of the other ones , porco Rosso would be the one I think

30:14

you would like a little better . I

30:16

don't know why particularly , but there are , just

30:19

like something about the tone is a little different

30:21

. Like I mean , I

30:23

just feel like Porco the I

30:25

forgot wait , I forgot , I forgot what I was saying . That's not his name , that's

30:27

not his name , jesus , either way , the pig . I forgot

30:29

his name . But like he , like the

30:32

character is kind of like he's

30:34

cool , like he's like fun , like . So I just

30:36

feel like you would like him . So where versus

30:38

like I can see why people don't like

30:40

to hero blah , blah , blah , and

30:42

then in Born in the Heron , why

30:45

the main character is kind of like like stale

30:48

, but we're not going to , I'm not going

30:50

to touch that any further , but um

30:52

, that's right .

30:52

I was like I don't want to get attacked .

30:54

I don't want to get attacked . Oh yeah , because I have feelings about

30:56

Born in the Heron that it's fine .

30:58

The point is that We'll

31:00

do that in the Patreon after show , where it's like safe

31:02

, we don't touch that , I mean .

31:03

I enjoy the movie .

31:04

I do like what you have said I think you mentioned it in

31:06

your , in the one of the clips you sent in

31:08

, or maybe we were just talking about it like how the

31:11

Ghibli films to you as the

31:13

um , you look more of them as art pieces

31:15

as opposed to film and when

31:17

I look at it from that point

31:19

of view , yeah , I have a much bigger appreciation

31:22

for them when it's supposed to thinking about them . As

31:24

you know , a movie where I want to hear structure

31:26

and plot , and , yeah , act one , act two

31:28

, act three , um , you know , so I did

31:31

. I did enjoy that uh perspective

31:33

on it .

31:34

Yeah , I mean that's like with Pogo Rosso . I

31:36

feel like it is a bit more of a cohesive film

31:38

. So I just feel like that would be easier to watch

31:40

. It's the same thing why I tell people like

31:43

I mean this is a hot take . Apparently I

31:45

didn't know this until last year . But I

31:47

say when people want to watch Ghibli film I say if you don't want to watch

31:49

many of them , that's fine . But Prince Mononoke

31:52

, I think , is a good watch for it . And most

31:54

of the time I've been on point , everyone's like oh yeah

31:56

, you're right , it was so good . I had like two

31:58

people that did not care

32:01

for it and they hated it a lot .

32:03

I've definitely seen clips . It's a lot more violent

32:05

.

32:05

It is , I'm more violent I . I again do

32:07

think it is more on a spiritual level of a

32:09

type of story , but it has

32:11

more of a cohesive like this is

32:13

the goal and or

32:15

this is the characters , like what

32:17

he's trying to do , and then here

32:20

we got to the end . I do say that

32:22

it is one of those things that I know , like

32:24

I know I think Phil mentioned before too that it

32:26

is one of those things that things do just happen , and

32:29

but it's kind of like this is his

32:31

life and this is kind of how he has to like , like

32:33

I take that as like the well , life

32:36

doesn't always make sense when things happen to you . I

32:38

know , god knows that , like I know

32:40

, because a lot of random things happen to me and

32:42

I'm like , wait , how did the , what

32:44

, why does it happen to me ? So

32:47

, like the main character , mananoke

32:49

, I kind of feel that's kind of how it is for him

32:51

. But overall I think it's a more cohesive

32:53

film , you know , and it is a lot more violent , which

32:56

I know some people love and

32:58

like you know so . But I think Pocoroso

33:00

is fine for you , for

33:02

you Do I think that won't be . I think

33:04

that will be a little more enjoyable than some of the others , and

33:06

so so , yeah All right , that

33:09

was our studio .

33:09

Ghibli break there we go . All

33:12

right , Phil , back to it .

33:13

All right , next one here . Watch

33:17

to confirm my suspicions . And it was

33:19

indeed ass . Some moments of

33:21

where the movie is telling you hey , this is supposed

33:24

to be a sad moment . You're supposed to care , but

33:26

you cannot bring yourself to care about anyone in

33:28

the story . Please stop the pandemic of

33:30

empty , mediocre stories wrapped up in

33:32

huge animation budgets .

33:35

That was such a generic , vague

33:37

review that I'm like hold

33:40

on . What can this possibly be ? But

33:42

he said pandemic , so I imagine

33:44

it came out during then .

33:48

And again , Phil , have I seen this or would I

33:50

know ? You've seen it ? I've

33:52

seen it .

33:53

Is it a silent voice ?

33:56

A silent voice came out , like six

33:58

years ago .

33:59

No , it didn't yeah A lot longer than that 2016

34:01

.

34:01

But when we got it , it was .

34:05

Oh , I guess it wasn't during the pandemic time . I'll say this yeah , don't

34:07

focus on the word pandemic .

34:08

They just use the word pandemic . Oh gosh , yeah , Okay .

34:11

Yeah , I'm trying to do chronological over

34:13

here . Let's see , read it , read

34:16

it one more time Watch to confirm my suspicions

34:18

.

34:19

And it was indeed ass . Some moments where the movie is telling

34:21

you hey , this is supposed to be a sad moment , you're

34:24

supposed to care , but you cannot . You

34:27

just cannot bring yourself to care about anyone in the story . Please

34:30

stop the pandemic of empty , mediocre stories

34:32

wrapped up in huge animation budgets

34:35

.

34:37

I'm , if I've seen it . It's

34:40

one of the , it's one of the films that I

34:42

don't like More than likely

34:44

, so I'm gonna . I don't think

34:46

it's this , I don't think it's

34:48

too recent , so

34:51

I'm gonna go with weather , yeah

34:55

, weather with you , yeah all

34:57

right , that is your name .

34:59

I knew it . That was my second guess . That

35:01

was my second guess , my heart

35:04

, I .

35:06

Wanted to go to some a here , but I was like

35:08

no , there's no , no

35:10

way .

35:12

Focus on was you . There's supposed to be a sad moment , You're

35:14

supposed to care , but you just cannot bring yourself to care

35:16

about anyone . I read that I was like

35:18

there's no way this person watched this movie .

35:24

That was my second .

35:25

That was my second guess . Seriously , I was like

35:27

it's gonna be a first of . I was like it's

35:29

definitely a Makoto Shinkai movie . So I was like , hold

35:31

on , which one is it ?

35:32

You're all the right , I know yeah .

35:33

I was . I knew it was your name . I was like

35:35

I think they'll chose this to attack

35:37

.

35:40

Well . I know for sure this is not me

35:42

, so at least you can take solace , and In

35:44

knowing that I would never say such blasphemous

35:46

things , all right last one .

35:48

No , that's a review for Susan may , unofficially

35:50

.

35:51

We're not gonna .

35:52

Oh , okay , you know what my brother also

35:54

hates both of us for that . Yeah , it

35:58

is what it is . I want to go and I've been . I want

36:00

to the second time I tried .

36:02

I didn't get a picture of Harrison Ford

36:04

with the chair at the at the Emmy

36:06

, so , like you know , that'll

36:09

exist in pop culture . There

36:12

we go , all right . Last one here I

36:14

was never a fan , a huge fan of the anime

36:17

, but , oh my god , a fan filled

36:19

piece of schlock . I saw this in theaters

36:21

and that was one of the biggest mistakes I've

36:23

ever made . There were so many fans in there

36:26

and they were so inconsiderate and were screaming

36:28

whenever any character popped up and was

36:30

the worst Bad movie . Don't

36:32

see it .

36:34

I have two , have two

36:36

guesses , but I'm

36:38

trying to narrow it down .

36:41

I definitely feel like you . You

36:43

would pick a my hero movie , for sure

36:46

. I feel like if you're

36:48

picking anime movies , I

36:50

feel like you would have picked one , see

36:53

I .

36:54

Thought that , but I think it's

36:56

a one piece movie . Oh wait , oh

36:59

no , but it's one . Did Eric see it ?

37:02

Yeah , you see it .

37:02

Oh , that's a great question Did . I mean it wasn't okay . Okay

37:05

and it was .

37:06

Oh , it's probably a good pick goes to the show which

37:08

I know for a fact he hasn't seen . So it

37:10

could have been anything , but that's good to know . I'm

37:13

gonna say it's the first my hero academia movie

37:15

.

37:15

I feel like it's jujitsu kaisen . Oh

37:18

, that's not a bad one , the jujitsu kaisen

37:21

zero or whatever zero .

37:22

Yeah , it's my hero , two heroes .

37:25

So , oh , the second one , okay , oh .

37:28

Really . I actually like that one , if I'm being honest that

37:31

second one has .

37:31

Ellen , yeah , it's not , it's not great . I still

37:34

personally love the first one .

37:35

I think it's a little bit more compact .

37:37

Yeah but yeah , no that that . Uh , that

37:39

story for two heroes isn't too bad . The

37:41

only one that's really been a big miss Is world

37:44

heroes mission .

37:45

That movie feel feel a little

37:47

bit orphan honestly , I hated that

37:50

movie , like I . I hated it yeah

37:52

it's so bad .

37:53

They only focused on three characters

37:55

, really and like .

37:57

And back to our my hero talk . Pre-pre

37:59

episode . Literally , it's because of

38:01

this movie that the animation quality

38:04

dipped in the show . So literally it was a double-edged

38:06

sword . I don't think my hero recovered and

38:08

I complained about that .

38:10

Immediately the second they announced it

38:12

, I was like , oh , they're gonna take the budget from this

38:14

season . Jesus Christ , don't do this . And

38:17

no , it's like what it did and they did it also

38:19

, by the way little little asterisk . This

38:22

is super pretentious of me and I apologize . But

38:24

the first movie , the reason why it's so good

38:26

, the reason why is because

38:28

the storyline is the exact same

38:31

storyline for the hunter hunter . The second

38:33

movie .

38:35

I did hear that it was pretty much a ripoff

38:37

. Almost exactly the same . But

38:39

seeing as how I'm probably never gonna watch hunter , hunter

38:41

, I'm , I'm all good for it .

38:42

How dare you ? That's blaspheming .

38:44

I'm sorry , I've got some anime

38:46

that I like I will watch

38:48

. Like one piece was always kind of that

38:50

one that like it was just a thousand episode

38:52

count . That was stopping me . But I always

38:54

looked at one piece . But like I'm never gonna watch Naruto

38:57

. I

38:59

mean rare rare that I would ever watch bleach

39:01

, although like it's it's more in the middle

39:03

. I want to watch you you hawka

39:05

show , but hunter , hunters on the opposite

39:07

end . Like I just don't think I'm gonna find

39:09

the time to watch it .

39:12

Um , then where it ?

39:13

stopped and all the stuff with the manga , like

39:15

everything I hear about it's like I don't know

39:17

that I want to pick that up .

39:18

I will say , if you were to watch it , because

39:20

my husband hasn't watched it yet either . He knows I love it , it's tattooed

39:23

on my arm , he knows I love it and he's

39:25

going to watch it . I don't care what he says , but um

39:27

, like it , I will say , out of all

39:29

the minutes is a shorter one , and so like

39:31

, and the way it ends it's like it

39:33

could be the ending , like you don't need like

39:35

as much as I admit , like I've . I've said that the

39:37

manga is not done and he's always

39:39

, you know , having health issues when

39:41

it comes to like working . But , um

39:44

, if you watch the anime , like you could leave

39:46

it as like you know what this is the end

39:48

.

39:48

I'm cool with this being the end , and so just

39:51

FYI , but Eric , you don't have to watch a bleach , you can watch

39:53

blue excursist Blue excursion is

39:55

good , though you guys both

39:57

are adamant . I don't know

39:59

who actually is much shorter . Yeah

40:02

, so it's only . I think it's like in

40:04

its third season , second or third season , didn't

40:06

it just come back I ? Was watching the other day . Yeah

40:08

, I need to get excited .

40:09

It's good , it's a good show .

40:11

Well , and then he also started watching the blue

40:13

excursist of sitcom comedies in

40:15

it's always sunny . I mean not the blue excursion , the uh

40:18

, the , the one piece which I have

40:20

also started that journey as well . I was much more open to

40:22

starting it's always sunny as opposed to yeah uh

40:25

, the pirate show when

40:28

you guys are all just on your way to a box

40:30

with nothing in it and friendship was

40:32

the real one piece all along .

40:34

No , he already said it's gonna be a tangible

40:36

thing .

40:37

So I don't hear it .

40:38

He's gonna be a mirror .

40:39

It's gonna be a mirror and they're gonna look at it .

40:43

You are the one piece . No , I already

40:45

know . They had episodes showing that it was something

40:47

, so I don't hear it . They didn't tell you what it was . I

40:49

don't believe you here .

40:51

Here's what I'll say . I will say I

40:53

don't know if you know this , but they

40:55

are remaking the

40:58

. It's called the one piece . I

41:00

even looks upset now .

41:01

Here's what I will say now . They're like reanimating

41:03

him . The first , the first

41:05

arc or the first side of the first arc .

41:08

Yeah , and they're doing it through wit studio instead

41:11

of towi animation . So towi

41:13

animations , you're . You're a classic , like one

41:16

piece dragon ball .

41:17

Sailor moon disarmament series .

41:18

Yeah , where wit , you

41:21

know wit obviously for several different

41:23

series , including attack on titan for the early season

41:25

.

41:25

So like it's supposed to be a more confined

41:28

Storytelling , not as

41:30

yeah , but then people are gonna be like , oh

41:32

, you watch the wit version , so

41:35

no

41:37

. I'm not opening myself up to that . You're not gonna . Okay

41:40

, all right , I honestly don't do it .

41:42

I mean I'm talking crap because I know I'm gonna watch it , but

41:44

I'm watching it with like Like disdain

41:47

Because like I want to know what they're

41:49

gonna do , because they already admitted they're gonna use a art

41:52

, and I'm already oh , no , no , no

41:54

, no no . I'm already annoyed by that

41:56

.

41:56

Um no yeah , it sounds like just like the

41:58

corporate version of . What is it when people do

42:01

, when they do stuff on youtube

42:03

where they , they voice , act for everybody

42:05

in a series so you can just like catch

42:07

up on an anime . What's that called ? Oh the

42:09

bridge , yeah , bridge . Like voice actors , yeah

42:12

, that's that just sounds like a A corporate

42:14

version of yeah , I know not , they

42:16

have .

42:17

And netflix is only doing it because they , since

42:19

they have the live action one piece , they want to own more rights

42:21

for one piece . So they're like , oh well

42:24

, we'll just do this , and to me it's like spitting

42:26

in the animators face back in the day . So I'm

42:28

just yeah . I'm not a fan , I'm not

42:30

the most excited about it .

42:32

Yeah , I will just say that watching one piece

42:34

that I'm okay with the story . I

42:36

actually love east blue . Um , I

42:38

don't know why people say it takes so long to get into

42:40

it . I think you can get into the show right away

42:42

personally . But the

42:45

pacing , especially around fights .

42:47

I agree it's a little drag in the beginning

42:49

for sure , because they had to spread that , those chapters

42:51

out .

42:52

I get it , but I would like

42:54

to see a more refined no .

42:56

I mean I agree , I mean like I , I the

42:58

further it gets , the there are moments

43:00

where it gets less um , draggy

43:03

or whatever . Then it's time where it

43:05

does it again . But you know , like I

43:07

think some people are a little too harsh . I'm like it's not Dragon Mosey

43:09

here , okay , calm down , like we're not taking

43:12

20 years to do a spear bomb .

43:14

Oh , you're gonna stuff .

43:17

I know I'm like yo .

43:18

You have to explain every card after you explain it to him

43:20

as a kid , because I watched

43:22

the first season of you as it was coming out and

43:25

the Pegasus duel taking Two

43:29

and a half months , and I

43:31

was like , oh my god , what is

43:33

happening ? And of course I , you know , the only other anime I

43:35

watched was Pokemon and so this

43:37

took . So so long I was like

43:39

, oh yeah , we finally got to the vitals , we finally

43:41

got to Pegasus . Yeah , I'm like , yeah

43:44

, I can't rewatch them because it's , it's tough

43:46

, it's yeah , everybody knows that's

43:48

been my experience with Dragon Ball Super .

43:50

I was like , oh , I'm gonna kind of give this a

43:52

shot . And I was like , oh , this

43:54

is just like how z was and

43:56

this is taking too long , I'm not gonna

43:59

do this . Yeah , uh , really , really

44:01

tough . But , phil , was that all your letterbox

44:03

movies ?

44:04

I had five , I just picked five .

44:05

I had five , all right . So we'll

44:07

jump into my game , uh

44:09

, and we will stick on the anime , uh

44:12

, tv side of things and we will

44:14

talk about several series . Now I purposely

44:16

picked series that you

44:20

both may not have watched , to

44:22

keep it kind of open . So you would know

44:24

these animes , uh , but one

44:27

or both of you may not have watched them

44:29

. I think Ivan probably has seen them

44:31

all , but , phil , there may be a couple you have not . So

44:34

the way the IMD parents

44:36

guide works is I'm gonna go through the categories

44:39

of each film . These are parents that filled

44:41

this out in categories of sex

44:43

, in nudity , violence and gore , profanity

44:46

, alcohol , drugs and smoking , frightening

44:49

and intense scenes , and

44:51

they have rated this From

44:54

mild all the way to extreme . So

44:56

, with that being said , if at any point

44:58

you have a guess , shout it out . But

45:01

we're gonna get started . Our

45:03

first unknown anime here in

45:06

the sex and nudity category , one

45:08

of our characters is captured

45:10

and video calls the

45:13

men . She's scantily

45:15

Cladding , uh , she's got her scantily

45:17

clad breasts that are practically

45:19

practically visible . Hmm

45:22

, violence and gore . After

45:25

a massacre , we see a man's rib

45:27

cage sticking out of his side . Prophanity

45:31

, but there's mild profanity , less

45:34

uses of hell and damn . Hmm

45:37

, alcohol , drugs and smoking

45:40

very little . There

45:42

is cigarette smoking throughout .

45:45

It no . Well is this , oh

45:48

man he said she was

45:50

captured .

45:51

He said the girl was captured , girl

45:53

was captured , yep .

45:55

Someone's rib cage ? What the

45:57

hell .

45:58

Okay , this is heavenly delusion .

46:01

It is not . No , no , I remember beginning that way . Oh

46:03

, that's how it's frightening

46:05

, oh okay , okay , frightening

46:08

and intense scenes .

46:09

This is a fairly dark and melancholy

46:12

, melancholy neo noir

46:14

animation . I'm

46:17

struggling war .

46:18

I'm so struggling , I'm struggling hard .

46:20

That's okay , we're gonna go back around

46:22

. So sex and nudity overall

46:25

is moderate , and

46:27

there are One

46:30

of our characters that is naked

46:32

, taking a shower , but talks

46:34

are visible .

46:38

I know , I just wanted to say but Really

46:40

, do we emphasize that ?

46:44

Violence in Gore overall is

46:46

moderate . A Villain

46:48

kills several men by sword . We

46:51

see blood spurting shortly .

46:53

The thing that's getting me is the kidnapped character

46:56

. Yeah , that's what I'm trying to focus on , so

46:58

I'm thinking I might be on the right track and I'm like I don't

47:00

ball . So this could be a show I've never seen .

47:03

Yep that's why I wanted to throw some of those in there

47:05

. It's just just to keep you guessing . Profanity

47:09

overall is moderate . Some

47:11

of the words they use our shit son of a

47:13

bitch and god damn it .

47:17

Alcohol , drugs in smoking is

47:19

overall moderate that show with the

47:21

guy who has a gun for a head .

47:27

Oh no , I don't remember that beginning that way either .

47:29

Yeah , I was thinking you know are , I don't know

47:31

are , yeah , three characters

47:34

each unknowingly eat a hallucinogenic

47:36

mushroom and experience a different

47:39

hallucination . Is this , is

47:42

this cyberpunk ? No

47:45

, but your guesses , guys , are not bad . These

47:47

are not bad guesses . I don't think cuz

47:49

.

47:49

I remember the beginning of cyberpunk , the guy oh wait , no

47:52

one's cannot . In the beginning , though , god thing

47:54

.

47:56

In frightening and intense scenes

47:59

Animals , specifically

48:01

a dog , are seen in peril may

48:04

be difficult or upsetting for some viewers .

48:06

Oh no , yes , I can't handle

48:08

when animals are . I'm

48:10

like no , Yo , I

48:12

do .

48:12

I have no are . You

48:15

know are is throwing me off too .

48:16

Yes , that's who I'm trying to think of all my neo

48:19

nor animes that I know and I'm like Hold on like

48:21

what . What am I forgetting ?

48:23

Before we go through the next round , I

48:25

will give you guys a hint . This

48:28

show is very heavily Known

48:31

for and inspired with the music

48:33

attached to it , so

48:35

music is a big thing when it comes

48:37

to this particular anime classic anime

48:40

.

48:41

He says someone's rib was out . That's

48:44

what one of the parents said here . I'm trying to think of all

48:46

the openings that I remember Huh

48:49

oh the muse , oh muse a bochi , yeah

48:52

bochi .

48:56

Now bochi the rock .

48:58

I'm like bochi starts like that .

49:00

Let's go like absolutely

49:02

not , ah , yeah

49:07

, all right back to sex and

49:09

nudity but ox . Let

49:11

me fuck but ox . Two

49:16

of our characters are held up by the main

49:18

character in his ship . One

49:20

of them is handcuffed to a pole and positioned

49:23

upright in minimal clothing , while the other is

49:25

restrained , implying a sexual nature Ship

49:28

in a shape . I said ship the

49:31

main character has a ship .

49:33

What the hell yo I

49:35

don't know and when you say it what this ?

49:37

I know when you say what it is . I

49:39

swear to God if there's something I know and I'm gonna

49:41

be so angry .

49:43

Probably it's a very well-known

49:45

anime violence and gore . A

49:48

man is experiment , experimented on in

49:50

a dream . His eyes are about to be slashed

49:52

. Cybernetic organs and jars are briefly seen

49:54

in the background .

49:56

I have no clue . Dude , I'm

50:01

lost .

50:01

Phil , not having a clue makes sense . Ivan

50:04

, I do think you should know this one . Yeah , I'm

50:06

so mad . Alcohol

50:09

, drugs and smoking . A dealer sprays a mis-like

50:12

drug into his eyes a few times in the first

50:14

episode . Is it good , cowboy the bloodshot

50:16

?

50:18

But that's why threw me off . No one's

50:20

rib is out in the first , first

50:22

episode of first scene , or first episode .

50:26

Oh , rib cage was at some point in the

50:28

season , not necessarily .

50:30

I thought it was like in the first scene and I'm like

50:32

what , and that's why I they didn't

50:34

watch the first episode . They watched the first . They was a trailer

50:37

, because the person pinned

50:39

up in the ship remember , these are parents , so

50:42

I know that's it threw me off because Faye

50:44

is not in the first episode and the scene they're talking about it's

50:46

a trailer .

50:48

Okay , wait , cowboy bebov has ships in it

50:50

like not , I

50:53

was like . Pirate ships .

50:57

I knew it was bebop man from a long time off

50:59

, like but wait , no one's rib cages

51:02

out and no girls captured in

51:04

the beginning . So this is wrong . So that's

51:06

why I didn't think it was .

51:07

You know noir . Okay , that makes sense now .

51:09

All right , now

51:11

we got an idea of how the game is played . We're

51:13

gonna move on . Our next anime

51:16

unknown anime , is Going

51:18

to start off with sex and nudity in

51:21

the parents guide of IMDB . It

51:23

is mild . There are

51:25

some quick passing sexual references that

51:27

are under detailed in nature but are usually

51:29

comedic . Violence

51:32

in gore is mild

51:34

. The main protagonist

51:36

rips off a chunk of his thumb , somewhat

51:39

bloody but brief . Profanity

51:42

is mild in this episode

51:44

. In the episode where a character is introduced

51:47

, another character rapidly swears

51:49

in amazement . Alcohol

51:52

, drugs and smoking . Two

51:55

main characters make wine and drink it . One

51:59

of them says it's underage drinking . The

52:01

other one says they're actually 3700

52:04

years old , so it isn't what .

52:08

Dr Stone .

52:10

It is Dr .

52:11

Stone , is it really ?

52:12

a good job , very good job , yes

52:14

.

52:14

I remember that wine scene , for some reason .

52:16

I do remember the wine scene . For

52:20

some reason , I thought of something so like okay

52:23

, I mean , I believe it , it's not a human and it makes sense

52:25

and he rips off .

52:26

He rips off some of his skin . He

52:29

can do the mark on his , on

52:31

his clothes .

52:32

I took it to the crazy .

52:33

I got that , having only watched like 10 .

52:36

I know the fact that you don't like that show .

52:38

I'm very mad . You know that show , oh

52:40

my god , okay , I like it .

52:42

It was back when Eric gave me like a list of five

52:44

anime to watch , and that was one of them .

52:47

To be fair .

52:47

I think four out of the five were hits , but

52:49

I just know .

52:50

No , you had me . Watch . Promise , that's an Asia cloud , you had me watch

52:53

promise Neverland and I did not enjoy it yeah

52:55

, promise in the first season , really

52:57

Okay .

52:58

Oh , no , first season is great . I don't

53:00

know what season two is garbage . One is the only

53:02

one that's actually good .

53:03

Yeah , I've never . I never personally had

53:05

gone through the disrespect that a lot of people

53:07

did Back in the day when they fucked up your like

53:09

second or third season of anime . So

53:11

I watched promise Neverland blind . Yeah

53:14

after reading the manga , I went in blind

53:16

, not knowing that they were gonna change the story . So

53:18

when the first character that was supposed to

53:20

be there didn't show up , I was like , well

53:23

, that's an interesting change

53:25

. Yeah , getting worse .

53:26

Yeah , never

53:29

, but he gave me a classic in classrooms .

53:30

So like I don't really I don't

53:32

think about the negatives , I want to buy the

53:35

the manga collection . Have you seen it worth ? Because they're

53:38

all different faces ? Oh man , it's

53:40

yeah so it's expensive , but I want it so

53:42

bad .

53:43

It's worth it , though , because I bought

53:45

before the box that came out . I bought

53:47

them individually , and if

53:49

you buy the set , it's way more cost-effective

53:51

than if you buy them .

53:54

Yeah , so now I'm mad , which I wish I could have

53:56

done with the chainsaw man , because now they

53:58

have a whole set .

54:01

Yeah , now I'm buying . I stopped

54:03

buying manga unless I know it's

54:06

not gonna be in a set and so this time

54:08

when you can kind of tell now , but you know . Yeah

54:11

that's all right .

54:12

Yeah , it's a beautiful set . That's so cool .

54:16

All right , let's get into our next one . We've got

54:18

a couple more left , so

54:20

let's jump into the

54:23

next anime unknown anime on

54:25

the IMDb parents guide

54:27

. We're gonna start off with sex annuity

54:30

. There's none . There

54:32

are a few mild references

54:34

to sex , but nothing really dramatic

54:37

pass . But

54:41

Uh

54:44

, violence in gore is severe

54:46

. One of the seasons get

54:48

even more intense and disturbing than the

54:50

preceding seasons in term of graphic

54:53

violence .

54:54

But there's no nudity so increases

54:57

as you , as you go , okay .

55:01

Profanity is moderate

55:03

. There are some instances

55:05

of R rated curse words , but

55:07

it's more like PG 13

55:09

language . So in there are some

55:11

fucks but more like

55:14

ass , shit , etc . That's

55:17

what they said here .

55:18

Oh , I thought you added that in yourself .

55:21

Alright . Oh , alcohol

55:24

, drugs and smoking is mild

55:27

. One character is considered

55:29

an alcoholic drinking whiskey for several

55:31

times that he's on screen hmm

55:33

, whiskey is a is

55:36

a specific . Yeah , and then

55:39

frightening and intense

55:42

scenes . The fact

55:44

that many of the people dying are

55:46

young teenagers is very

55:49

upsetting , so you could

55:51

say under 18 .

55:53

There's no . There's no like intense cussing in black

55:55

clover . Is there ? It's not black

55:57

.

55:57

No no , it's not black , okay , okay

56:01

, we'll

56:03

go back up to sex and nudity again

56:06

. It's listed as none the

56:08

. I'm really excited about this opportunity

56:11

. The only nudity that is displayed in this show

56:13

is buttocks , and

56:16

it is only seen from

56:18

one types of the characters that are fully

56:21

naked but do not have genitalia

56:23

. Attack on Titan .

56:25

I was about to say it has to be that yeah

56:29

, just really excited , even though buttocks was in there

56:31

. The

56:34

second , you said there was no genitalia . I was like , oh , what's

56:36

it like on Titan ? But I I keep forgetting that

56:38

. We can just say it while you're like Describing

56:41

it . I was waiting for you to finish the sentence

56:43

so polite .

56:44

Yeah , it feels like no , no .

56:46

I've done this .

56:48

All right , let's get to our final two . The

56:51

next anime , unknown anime

56:54

. On the IMDB parents guide . We're gonna

56:56

figure it out through the first

56:58

category , sex and nudity , which

57:00

is mild . A man makes

57:02

a comical reference to porn site

57:05

, saying that another man got a sprain in his

57:07

shoulder from clicking on them too much . Interestingly

57:11

enough , I don't remember that . Huh

57:13

, violence

57:15

and gore is moderate

57:17

. Someone put here the violence

57:20

is no worse than stuff like my hero

57:22

, academia .

57:25

It's an actual comment . Interesting . Is

57:28

it odd taxi it

57:30

?

57:30

is not Profanity

57:34

, a couple of uses of the word

57:36

shit . So it's mild . Alcohol

57:39

, drugs and smoking . There's

57:41

none . Occasionally there are some scenes

57:44

of cigarette smoking , but nothing more than that

57:46

hmm , Frighting

57:50

and frightening and intense scenes

57:52

is moderate , but

57:55

there's really no comments here , other

57:57

than one of the characters gets run over

57:59

by a car . It's not shown but

58:01

it is implied Is it you , you Haka show

58:03

. No it's not , not

58:05

you you Haka show .

58:08

Sure , it's not odd taxi .

58:13

All right , we're gonna go back up and

58:16

we're gonna go back to sex and nudity

58:18

again , which is mild

58:20

, and there

58:22

is a character who

58:25

is falsely accused of stealing several

58:27

girls recorders , and

58:30

Several other boys are also

58:32

falsely accused of stealing girls

58:35

, gyms , gym clothes , violence

58:38

and gore . In a

58:40

few episodes people get kidnapped

58:42

and tortured by having their face put

58:44

in water , though it's very comedic and not

58:46

serious .

58:48

I feel like I should know these is

58:50

an assassination classroom .

58:52

Not assassination classroom , but in anime . I

58:54

know you both have yo what I'm so bad at

58:56

this right now . Pro-fantasy

59:00

is mild . There is

59:02

usage of the word dipshit in

59:04

one of the episodes .

59:09

You dipshit .

59:12

Alcohol , drugs and smoking . Again

59:14

they have it listed as none , but they do have an

59:16

example in one episode where a character

59:19

vomits on screen after drinking in a bar

59:21

, though According to the mom's I

59:23

mean change some . Look at the dead Zom

59:27

100 you guys mentioned you name like three

59:29

anime there was on 100 , zom

59:32

100 no .

59:34

It's not but yeah , oh yeah , that's way more violent

59:36

, not alcohol , oh

59:38

yeah , she's a man's way more violent to my hero , to .

59:42

On par with my hero , okay

59:45

, you for

59:47

we'll go back to

59:50

sex and nudity

59:52

here Very

59:54

excited for this opportunity once again . In

59:57

several episodes , male characters buttocks

59:59

are seen , Usually

1:00:01

under comedic circumstances

1:00:04

of accidentally losing their clothes . The

1:00:06

show's art style is rather cartoony , though

1:00:08

, so it isn't as offensive as it could

1:00:10

have been .

1:00:13

See , my mind keeps going to Mob Psycho

1:00:15

, but I know that's not right .

1:00:17

It is Mob Psycho 100 .

1:00:18

I knew it . I knew it . I knew it

1:00:21

, I knew it .

1:00:22

That's what it is Mob Psycho 100 . I

1:00:24

think we all know what buttocks they're talking about Buttocks

1:00:27

, Buttocks .

1:00:29

Huh .

1:00:30

All right , we're gonna go ahead and

1:00:32

jump into our last

1:00:34

IMDB parents

1:00:36

guide selection , so let me pull that up , all

1:00:40

right . The next unknown

1:00:42

anime on IMD parents guide

1:00:44

IMDB parents guide . We're

1:00:47

gonna start off with sex and nudity

1:00:49

as the category . Parents

1:00:51

found this mild . In

1:00:54

one episode , in the women's bath while being

1:00:56

watched by men , a character removes

1:00:58

their towel showing her body , expecting

1:01:00

money in return . This is played for comedy

1:01:02

. Violence

1:01:05

and gore is listed as

1:01:07

moderate . There are

1:01:09

versions of this show that removes all

1:01:11

instances of violence and edits out the blood

1:01:13

, while editing weapons like guns to

1:01:15

make the show less violent .

1:01:20

What Interesting Okay .

1:01:23

I'm so excited to see how this is gonna turn out

1:01:25

. Profanity

1:01:27

is mild . Specifically

1:01:30

, the dub version has a lot

1:01:33

of let me see

1:01:35

here . No , the sub version has a lot

1:01:37

of profanity . The dub version

1:01:39

has a little bit less swearing .

1:01:42

And they really slashed us up

1:01:44

, yeah .

1:01:46

There's a few that I know that did that , but

1:01:48

I don't think it's any of the ones I'm thinking of .

1:01:52

So alcohol , drugs and smoking

1:01:54

is moderate . One

1:01:57

of the characters is a chain smoker

1:01:59

and is always seen with a cigarette in

1:02:01

them . One piece , it is

1:02:03

one piece , oh my .

1:02:04

God . Congratulations , tyvid , because

1:02:06

that dub was terrible it

1:02:10

is .

1:02:11

I'm very glad that you got it because I knew Phil

1:02:13

hadn't seen it , but there were gonna be enough guesses

1:02:15

where he could have gotten it before you and that would have

1:02:17

hurt my heart .

1:02:20

Yeah , I would have been real devastated if

1:02:22

I didn't get the one piece one , if

1:02:24

I took it too long . Honestly , the that

1:02:26

was good . Once you said the dub thing , I was like it's

1:02:28

gotta be one piece , it has to be . It

1:02:31

was one of the most torn up dub . Wait

1:02:33

, what's that what it's talking about Back in the day , or the more

1:02:35

recent one ?

1:02:37

I think back in the day .

1:02:38

What I'd say , because I don't always oof .

1:02:41

Yeah , I've heard it's gotten better .

1:02:42

Well , no , it is better . Yes , but

1:02:44

back in the day we've gotten it , Okay yeah

1:02:46

.

1:02:47

All right , Phil , if you have that

1:02:49

top 10 list , that'll be a nice way for us

1:02:52

to finish this episode

1:02:54

out . Yeah , we can . A lot of fun so far .

1:02:56

Yeah , we can do that . It is a sports key

1:02:58

to article from last year

1:03:00

, I believe . Let me double check

1:03:02

and this one will be pretty quick . Yeah

1:03:04

, it came out July of , or it's been modified

1:03:06

since July of 2023 . So

1:03:08

this will be a quick , fun way to wrap

1:03:11

this up . The top 10 most

1:03:13

overrated anime of all time

1:03:15

.

1:03:16

You are choosing to attack me . You're

1:03:18

doing it on purpose and

1:03:20

most of these lists , they will

1:03:22

just pick the popular things just to

1:03:24

make people get like irate

1:03:27

. I agree .

1:03:28

So just tell us where one piece is on the top 10 list .

1:03:30

Oh , my God , stop Number three , oh

1:03:33

oh .

1:03:35

That disrespect . I think I know what the first one is

1:03:37

.

1:03:37

It is rank third here

1:03:39

. Yeah , so what do you want to

1:03:41

?

1:03:41

guess , Simon ? I think the first

1:03:44

one is probably Demon Slayer

1:03:46

.

1:03:47

Demon Slayer is on here . I think it's number five

1:03:50

. Yeah , it's number five .

1:03:52

Okay , not bad , naruto's gotta

1:03:54

be up there .

1:03:54

Naruto is number two . Oh

1:03:57

yeah , okay .

1:03:59

I wonder if the my hero academia is one my hero

1:04:01

academia is number 10 . What .

1:04:03

Wow , let's go . Oh

1:04:05

, oh , oh , oh , oh , oh . Not bad

1:04:08

, it's pretty good

1:04:10

. Maybe Chainsaw Man's the first one . No

1:04:12

, chainsaw Man's not on here , really .

1:04:15

Juju the Kaisen . No , these

1:04:19

are probably a little bit more of the classics

1:04:22

.

1:04:23

Oh , it's not like a re . Oh , I can see

1:04:25

that , updated it .

1:04:25

But it's a more recent list but , like Chainsaw man had

1:04:27

one season , Juju the Kaisen had two .

1:04:29

That's true .

1:04:30

I'm thinking it's probably series that have multiple

1:04:33

seasons , so Bleach has gotta be up there .

1:04:35

Bleach is number one . What

1:04:37

?

1:04:38

That is the Kinda makes sense ? No , it is not

1:04:41

, I'm not even . It's not , but it's so unloved

1:04:43

, it's so unloved , and

1:04:45

that is .

1:04:47

I think I've watched like two seasons of Bleach . I like it . The

1:04:49

problem is I had to go find it to

1:04:52

Stream To watch it . At the

1:04:54

time I couldn't . Where is it at ? Where can you

1:04:56

stream it ? Oh , now it's on Hulu only . Okay

1:04:58

, yeah , back when I started it , I

1:05:00

had to scour the internet to find some

1:05:03

website to watch , so I stopped watching it .

1:05:05

How is Bleach number one , number

1:05:07

one .

1:05:08

So you guys have the top three you have

1:05:10

one , two and three , you have five and

1:05:12

you have 10 .

1:05:15

Interesting Yo I'm shocked .

1:05:16

Okay Hunter .

1:05:17

Hunter no .

1:05:19

That's why I fell back on an attack .

1:05:21

Absolutely Exactly .

1:05:23

Wow , eric , wow , sorry

1:05:26

, Is Cowboy Bebop on there ?

1:05:27

No , that's right . It is there's

1:05:29

not to be , but I know how you guys feel .

1:05:31

Whatever , it's okay , it's

1:05:33

okay , I tried , I watched it . I

1:05:35

mean , I can tell you that much . It was a show .

1:05:37

It was a show you did watch it for Super Bracker Bros

1:05:40

.

1:05:41

I did , yeah , and

1:05:43

it was a time .

1:05:45

Okay , let's see , I'm

1:05:47

gonna say Hmm

1:05:49

, hmm , I

1:05:52

had it in my head a second ago Jesus , oh

1:05:55

God .

1:05:57

Most of these I haven't seen , so I don't know how I can't really

1:05:59

like give you guys like a clue .

1:06:01

Is Neon Genesis on there ?

1:06:03

No .

1:06:04

That's right .

1:06:05

That's right .

1:06:06

I mean , I've watched two episodes of it .

1:06:08

I couldn't get in Two is nothing , I'm not even gonna

1:06:10

start with this .

1:06:11

I heard I got to get past the first six .

1:06:14

I would say six yeah , it's okay .

1:06:16

Four . Generally speaking

1:06:19

, the series is regarded as very mediocre , despite

1:06:21

garnering incredible hype from its devoted

1:06:23

fan base .

1:06:25

This different what number is ?

1:06:27

that Number four Four . It's

1:06:29

also worth noting that the author and illustrator

1:06:31

are held in high regard

1:06:33

. This difference in reception stems from how different the

1:06:36

anime story is relative to the original

1:06:38

manga .

1:06:40

I don't know if it lines up with that , but Dragon

1:06:42

Ball on there .

1:06:44

A Dragon Ball is on here Z

1:06:46

Nope , Is

1:06:48

it super no .

1:06:52

If they're talking about Virgo or Dragon Ball . This

1:06:54

list was chosen to make me cry

1:06:56

.

1:06:57

Unless this has an alternate name . I don't know if you guys have to

1:06:59

tell me . I'll just tell you it's GT .

1:07:03

Oh , that's the third one , that one's .

1:07:05

GT is number seven . How is that overrated

1:07:07

?

1:07:07

How is that overrated ? No one even likes that one .

1:07:11

I don't think enough people have seen that one .

1:07:13

That's why I don't get how it's overrated . Yeah , that's weird .

1:07:15

Interesting Okay .

1:07:18

Is Sailor Moon on there ?

1:07:20

It lacks the canonicity

1:07:22

of other franchise series , the fact

1:07:24

that it prevents it from being truly appreciated for what

1:07:26

it is . Although full of great ideas

1:07:28

, this sole fact prevents it from being truly

1:07:30

appreciated , especially the younger fans

1:07:33

without a nostalgic connection . Yeah

1:07:39

, someone put out a guess Is Sailor Moon on

1:07:41

there ?

1:07:41

No , no , no , no Okay .

1:07:46

You said no Attack

1:07:48

on Titan wouldn't be on here , right ? No ?

1:07:50

That's why I didn't say it . I didn't think it was gonna be on there , even

1:07:52

though I feel like people do think it's overrated .

1:07:55

The one you read the description for . You have not

1:07:57

seen .

1:07:58

No , but

1:08:01

you know of it . Oh yeah

1:08:03

, you mentioned it earlier today . Oh

1:08:06

.

1:08:07

Uh-oh , hmm

1:08:09

.

1:08:11

I mentioned it earlier .

1:08:13

Mm-hmm , let me see

1:08:15

if I can find it . It's Bochi , no , no .

1:08:19

Leave her alone . No , actually

1:08:21

I haven't watched too much of it yet . I've only seen it a very small

1:08:23

amount . I like it as far as cool , it's

1:08:25

cool , it's a fun time .

1:08:27

I don't know that it was a top 10 anime in 2022

1:08:30

, but no , that's what a lot of people say it

1:08:32

was a lot of fun Including my brother . It's

1:08:35

very fun and it's very cute . It's very cute

1:08:37

, very wholesome . Hmm

1:08:40

, let me see if I can

1:08:42

read something from the plot of this and not give it

1:08:44

away .

1:08:46

Is Full Metal Alchemist on there ? No

1:08:48

, it better not be . I

1:08:51

mean I get it . I'm just assuming it's a hot take list

1:08:53

. Jojo's Bizarre Adventure .

1:08:56

It should be Code Geass . It

1:08:58

better not be code . Okay , it's

1:09:01

tough .

1:09:03

It's a tough crowd .

1:09:05

Let me see here . I'll

1:09:08

read the . We'll go in opposite order . I'll read the

1:09:11

. What it says for number

1:09:13

nine this shows biggest

1:09:15

issue stems from how high of

1:09:17

a filler anime canon percentage

1:09:20

it has in terms of its overall episode count

1:09:22

. Like the original series

1:09:24

, this is yet again a symptom of the series

1:09:26

being a weekly Studio

1:09:28

Perio series . Whereas the source material

1:09:31

is only there you go . Four or two is number

1:09:33

nine .

1:09:34

That 100% makes sense .

1:09:35

Number eight While

1:09:38

this is generally viewed by the larger anime community

1:09:41

for what it truly is , there are some who , truly who

1:09:43

try to argue in support of its existence

1:09:45

, since any adaptation is better than

1:09:48

none . However , this stands as an

1:09:50

indisputable proof that again , that

1:09:52

proof against this claim being both

1:09:54

a poor adaptation and a poor television

1:09:56

series in general . From breaking

1:09:58

the most basic rules of perspective and framing

1:10:01

to poorly adapting character expressions

1:10:04

and the foundational mood of a scene

1:10:06

, the series misfires on all fronts

1:10:08

. Although generally viewed in

1:10:10

the light it deserves to be seen in , any

1:10:12

arguments for this series are simply wrong

1:10:15

.

1:10:15

Whoa my gosh .

1:10:19

I don't know that . Let

1:10:21

me see if I can pull up another

1:10:23

. Yeah

1:10:26

, let's see . Based on among

1:10:28

the series of the same name and

1:10:31

an acting sequel to the Golden

1:10:33

Age arc .

1:10:34

Oh , it's Berserk , yeah

1:10:38

, berserk 2016 . That makes sense

1:10:40

. It doesn't have any real good adaptations

1:10:42

.

1:10:44

It's crazy . All right , there you go . Number

1:10:46

six . For as much praise

1:10:49

it garnered after the first season

1:10:51

, this series saw as much criticism

1:10:53

and hate thrown its way after its second season

1:10:55

, in nearly every regard fans

1:10:58

of the series . No , in

1:11:00

nearly every regard . Fans of the series generally

1:11:02

viewed the second season as wholly inferior

1:11:04

to the first , especially as it relates

1:11:07

to the series' production and adaptation

1:11:09

choices . This does sound like a game

1:11:11

, probably the pacing in the series

1:11:13

. Second season a slow tool

1:11:15

, molasses like pace , culminating

1:11:17

in a final episode which mostly served as

1:11:19

an anime . Original season recap scene

1:11:21

. The overall animation was critiqued

1:11:24

as well , suffering from the aforementioned

1:11:26

symptoms of being generally

1:11:29

inconsistent and seemingly reaching

1:11:31

a high quality during climactic moments

1:11:33

exclusively .

1:11:35

Tokyo Ghoul oh

1:11:37

.

1:11:39

Now I'm trying to think of shows that had like terrible

1:11:41

second seasons I have

1:11:44

no , is it a show that we've both watched

1:11:46

?

1:11:46

I have not watched it . You have watched it , I'm sure

1:11:49

. I think you've talked to Ivan about

1:11:51

it , but I'm not sure . But the anime

1:11:53

adaptation was announced in

1:11:55

2017 , came

1:11:57

out in 2019 .

1:12:00

Anime came out in 2019 .

1:12:03

Are you looking up anime that came out in 2019

1:12:06

? Maybe , Wait , we can do that . I got

1:12:08

Teeter , I'm

1:12:10

using my brain .

1:12:13

I mean , I'm trying to use my brain , but at this point

1:12:15

, yeah , I'm trying again

1:12:17

let's see . But even

1:12:19

then , it's not Fire Force

1:12:21

, is it ?

1:12:22

No Character is magically

1:12:24

summoned into a parallel universe where he is

1:12:26

chosen as one of

1:12:29

four heroes destined to save the world

1:12:31

from its proper size .

1:12:32

Oh , that makes so much sense now , absolutely

1:12:36

.

1:12:37

I didn't really think it was that highly rated

1:12:39

.

1:12:39

Season one overrated . No season

1:12:41

one was so praised .

1:12:44

Yeah , I mean , I loved it . I didn't watch season two

1:12:46

because I heard how that went See .

1:12:48

I never finished season one . Season

1:12:51

one was great . We'll get back to number four . This

1:12:53

is the last one . I'm trying

1:12:55

to think of a good hint here rather than just reading

1:12:57

the synopsis like I did for that last year , I

1:13:01

don't know anything about them . So I don't want to like , let's

1:13:04

see . So

1:13:06

it's not my family is what you're saying that's

1:13:10

a 24 episode I

1:13:14

can't

1:13:14

return to it . I think I got three episodes

1:13:16

in and I'm like I'm just gonna yeah .

1:13:18

I got other things like yeah , I mean , liz

1:13:20

haven't watched it yet , I'm only watched the first

1:13:23

two of season two .

1:13:25

I don't know what it is . I Like

1:13:28

the manga more .

1:13:29

the same thing , yeah the same thing

1:13:31

, it's another episode . It's like , yeah , we're not

1:13:33

progressing at all .

1:13:35

I mean like I don't mind the like comedic

1:13:37

episodes and things , but like there has to be

1:13:39

some progression and there just doesn't feel like

1:13:41

there's any . Yeah , at all

1:13:43

Because they're like oh , we're

1:13:45

gonna stop this guy from doing a war . Well

1:13:47

, how long does it take ? Because I

1:13:49

feel like it's been at least a

1:13:52

year and he hasn't started

1:13:54

a war yet . It takes that long , like I just feel , like some

1:13:56

of it . I'm like come on , so I don't know . I

1:13:58

enjoy it I guess , but

1:14:00

I don't know , I'm disappointed

1:14:02

.

1:14:03

It's like if you , if you have nothing better to watch , like

1:14:05

you can watch it , but like you're not , you're not watching

1:14:07

that . It'd be like riveted , like oh my god , what's gonna

1:14:09

happen next ? Well , like the manga .

1:14:12

Had me riveted , like I read

1:14:14

the first seven books and was so in it Like

1:14:16

, and some of the episodes have happened there

1:14:18

, you know from the chapters of manga that are good

1:14:20

yeah . Yeah , I don't know what it is , something like the

1:14:22

anime , just making it kind of stale . I guess

1:14:25

I don't know it's so odd

1:14:27

.

1:14:27

I think it's also like how long can you Repeat

1:14:30

the shtick that made it so popular

1:14:32

, but eventually you have to like , evolve

1:14:35

the show and that's just TV

1:14:37

in general , like , yes , do you , we have really

1:14:39

funny and cute characters , but eventually you have to

1:14:41

give me a reason to stick around like I .

1:14:43

So that's like I expected them to go on a

1:14:45

couple more missions or something , and

1:14:47

like to reveal , I don't know , to reveal something

1:14:50

, I guess . I don't know . I just

1:14:52

it's uh all right .

1:14:54

Well , I'm just gonna really read the synopsis of this , cuz I can't

1:14:56

find anything that would . A Character

1:14:59

sets out in a journey to the capital

1:15:01

to make a name for themselves and met a seemingly

1:15:03

dangerous group of assassins known as night

1:15:05

raid their journey .

1:15:06

Oh , um , um .

1:15:09

That's crazy .

1:15:10

Number four . That makes sense .

1:15:12

You did , you did say I mentioned it . We mentioned it

1:15:14

early .

1:15:14

I'm sure it makes 100% make sense yeah that's

1:15:16

even number one .

1:15:17

One bleach to Naruto 31p

1:15:19

, disrespectful , kill a lot of

1:15:21

times .

1:15:21

Why I haven't seen any like a Kamei art

1:15:24

from you . That makes so much sense now .

1:15:26

Yeah , I'm sorry it's not gonna happen crazy

1:15:29

. I'm like I tried , I really did

1:15:31

. I have some friends that love it and I I Respect

1:15:33

it and I think some of the fights were cool

1:15:36

, but overall I just I Don't

1:15:39

think I'm going to be making stuff for

1:15:41

it .

1:15:41

I Mean you would

1:15:43

do so good , but I get it , I

1:15:45

get it , but , to be honest , I mean more people who don't

1:15:47

like it .

1:15:49

So that's what I'm not I mean .

1:15:50

I'm here for as death all

1:15:52

the way .

1:15:54

How about I have I

1:15:56

got .

1:15:56

I got an idea . I got an idea .

1:15:58

I'll paint her . Okay , I got you , I'll

1:16:00

paint her , but she'll be stabbed on

1:16:03

the ground . Oh wow , from

1:16:05

one of my favorite females from bleach

1:16:07

. There you go .

1:16:11

I have a to to

1:16:13

sway away from the anime conversation . Here

1:16:15

I have a suggestion . Have

1:16:17

you thought of doing our

1:16:20

thick boy 2014 Godzilla with

1:16:23

like his spikes Getting blue

1:16:25

?

1:16:25

I actually want to do . I actually want to do

1:16:27

Godzilla . The problem I have with

1:16:29

it is that , like , so

1:16:31

it's . Since Godzilla is always , you know , in live

1:16:34

action , I have a hard time

1:16:36

trying to like draw

1:16:38

him in an appealing way , like in

1:16:40

my style because mine's more anime . Yeah , yeah

1:16:42

, like illustration , comic illustration , manga

1:16:44

illustration . So like ends up looking

1:16:46

goofy .

1:16:49

Isn't there an anime with the 2014

1:16:51

? There is an anime I haven't watched it , but

1:16:53

it's not bad , it's fine .

1:16:54

I mean it's a little bit of a different , yeah .

1:16:56

I think all those like I tried to watch Skull Island

1:16:58

.

1:16:59

I couldn't get it actually , so I didn't know if it was good .

1:17:02

It's got like the legend of Jackie

1:17:04

Chan style . Yeah , so I was like , oh , this

1:17:06

would be , this would be interesting , but I couldn't get into it .

1:17:08

So , like the Godzilla , one is fine . It's just

1:17:11

that they made two different versions , though they have one

1:17:13

where it's like a movie and both versions

1:17:15

, the TV series , and then the , the trilogy

1:17:18

anime movie , one Godzilla CG

1:17:20

the whole time .

1:17:21

So , like .

1:17:22

The thing is that I still don't

1:17:24

have a good enough reference to make him look

1:17:26

more like severe and like Syria versus

1:17:29

being more my Scott Pilgrimmy

1:17:31

kind of style sure I had to just do

1:17:33

it myself . So it's like I need like a solid

1:17:36

reference and everything .

1:17:37

Yeah , I'm gonna do some , so like

1:17:39

yeah , yeah

1:17:42

. I'm in my . I'm in my Godzilla renaissance

1:17:44

era .

1:17:45

Listen , I get it , that movie was oh

1:17:47

.

1:17:47

I would totally wear like a I'm in my Godzilla

1:17:50

era t-shirt with like .

1:17:53

Oh , my god someone .

1:17:56

Someone needs to make that , please . I'll buy it , I'll pay

1:17:58

.

1:17:58

Yes , I

1:18:01

totally get it . Yeah this one was so good .

1:18:03

Yeah , and like I told you , last

1:18:05

night , monarch ended so

1:18:07

incredibly . It was fantastic .

1:18:09

I'm actually hoping to start that . Well

1:18:11

, see that . And severance , I was gonna start this week because

1:18:13

I found out . Because I found out , I was gonna start

1:18:15

it . I was going to start severance I

1:18:18

think last week or the week before and my

1:18:21

Apple TV plus wasn't working and I was like

1:18:23

what's going on ? I was like I'm gonna watch this and now

1:18:25

it's not working . So if I tell him this , he's like you

1:18:27

lying .

1:18:30

Apparently , you can also use my login . Just don't log into

1:18:32

your phone . If you have an iPhone , oh

1:18:35

, and I call of our apps merged together

1:18:37

, oh my god

1:18:40

, yeah , she works at , she works at a church

1:18:42

. So I was like , why do I have the Bible ? Oh

1:18:46

my god , just don't know like I

1:18:48

, if you log into like a smart device , you can use my login

1:18:50

.

1:18:51

Well , the thing is that we we were paying for it and

1:18:53

I guess the card that we were using

1:18:55

is the one as a one is a car . We got rid of it

1:18:58

, just we never updated it .

1:18:59

So I didn't know best . Listen

1:19:01

, I'm gonna be the game pass of street

1:19:04

. Yes , the best deal . It's amazing , it's

1:19:06

the best , yeah , there have been some great things

1:19:08

on there .

1:19:08

Like I love drinking , I loved a

1:19:11

capulco . Is that the one ? Which

1:19:15

one is that ? It's like they're like in , they're

1:19:18

like a hotel , like a resort . Okay

1:19:20

. Yeah , I haven't seen that one , now one . I

1:19:22

mean it's been a lot of good things .

1:19:23

I just they really don't put out that much bad

1:19:25

content , it's just they don't market it . They

1:19:27

don't really market anything outside of Ted Lasso in

1:19:30

the morning show . You don't hear about anything else .

1:19:32

Yeah , they like silently put it on . Yeah , I'm like

1:19:34

, why did you , don't you want this to succeed

1:19:36

? Right money like .

1:19:38

I don't get it .

1:19:39

It's weird .

1:19:41

Anyway , I got my Apple TV . You

1:19:46

guys gonna talk about one piece I could talk about .

1:19:48

I wasn't even trying to really bring up one piece .

1:19:50

I just have to say that we watch it up .

1:19:53

No , because I

1:19:55

was saying that I make I'll take a break

1:19:58

to watch one piece , that's it , that's all I said

1:20:00

. And then Eric went oh yeah , let's , let's

1:20:02

go further in one piece . I was like no , I

1:20:04

didn't say we had to do that . I .

1:20:07

Definitely have a one piece related question at

1:20:09

the end of this , but I think we

1:20:11

have . We have gone on as long

1:20:13

as we can and I even I

1:20:15

want to thank you so much for joining us on this episode

1:20:18

. A whole bunch of fun . As I

1:20:20

kind of alluded to , we've got a lot more stuff that

1:20:22

we're working on this year some bonus episodes

1:20:24

and content so we'll definitely you'll definitely

1:20:27

, if you're watching this , you'll be seeing

1:20:29

Ivan again , I'm sure . But , ivan , if

1:20:31

you could just remind everyone one more time

1:20:33

what you've got coming up where they

1:20:35

can find you or support you Again

1:20:37

, we'll have a lot of that in the show notes and then

1:20:39

we will wrap this up . So give

1:20:42

us a , give us your time to plug anything

1:20:44

you'd like .

1:20:45

Well , I mean the next things I'll be at up

1:20:49

until March at least . I have Savannah

1:20:52

and , amazing , in Georgia , I have

1:20:54

a megacon here in Florida , in Orlando

1:20:56

. The big one and

1:20:58

then I have a brick city anime fest

1:21:00

in Ocala and then collective con

1:21:03

in Jacksonville in the beginning of March

1:21:05

. But , um , on , on

1:21:07

socials and stuff you find me on like it's

1:21:09

Ivan patch underscore artists on Instagram

1:21:12

and same with tiktok . I

1:21:14

do have my patreon , which I mean you guys

1:21:16

are on , you know . So Patreoncom

1:21:19

slash Ivan patch . I feel like I give

1:21:21

out a lot of stuff . I will

1:21:23

be honest and say that when a lot of cons are

1:21:25

piled up , I do get a little behind , but

1:21:27

I'm very vocal and very honest

1:21:29

about that with all my patrons . So

1:21:32

, yeah , I mean I have my YouTube also . I mean Ivan

1:21:34

patch as well . I mean I don't actually know the

1:21:36

URL for that , so I'm just

1:21:38

gonna say Ivan patch and look for this little

1:21:40

cartoony dude and so because

1:21:42

the vlogs I'm getting into more . So

1:21:44

you know , but yeah , there's

1:21:46

a place to find me honestly .

1:21:48

There we go , phil . If you want to tell everyone

1:21:51

again , we're gonna have all that in the show notes . If you want

1:21:53

to tell everyone where they can find more episodes of ours

1:21:55

, we'll close this up and

1:21:57

and wrap it up a great conversation so far .

1:22:00

Yeah , so much fun . I haven't always good to see and we'll

1:22:03

we'll see you very , very soon as we

1:22:05

get into our con season , as

1:22:07

we will . We will start to

1:22:09

meet up a whole lot more . Can't wait for

1:22:11

that . But yeah , guys , if you want to find literally

1:22:14

anything , it's in the link tree link of the

1:22:16

show notes of this episode . You can find archived

1:22:18

episodes to previous editions of

1:22:21

the creator spotlight . We've been doing this every

1:22:23

month since probably like March of last year

1:22:25

, and it's been a whole lot of fun , and

1:22:28

you can also find all of our you know other

1:22:30

episodes . Social media , the most important ones

1:22:32

to keep up with being Instagram

1:22:34

, a tick tock , as well as our

1:22:36

discord page . Those are all ways to

1:22:38

talk to us Directly

1:22:40

. I , as I mentioned I think I mentioned this

1:22:42

maybe before we even started I'm trying to hit 50

1:22:45

movies that I've watched here in 2024

1:22:47

and I've already started doing reviews in

1:22:50

the discord page . Some

1:22:52

of it's bit off to a little bit of a rocky start , so

1:22:54

hopefully the rest of the year evens

1:22:56

out a little bit again . We're gonna be

1:22:58

at brick city anime festival here very , very

1:23:00

shortly , as Eric teas , maybe

1:23:03

Megacon , where we got our fingers

1:23:05

crossed on that . But you know the best way to keep up with that again

1:23:07

, social media is make sure you check

1:23:09

that out . If you want to support the show , you can do that a couple of ways

1:23:11

. Leave us five star reviews wherever you are listening

1:23:13

, wherever it is possible , and share . Share

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, tick , tock whatever it is and tag us . Let

1:23:20

us know that you're out there . All those things

1:23:22

help quite a bit , but if you find yourself being

1:23:24

maybe a little bit more generous and you want to join our

1:23:27

community Now I'm Eric will let you know how you can

1:23:29

do that .

1:23:30

Yes , there's a couple ways you can do that . All of that

1:23:32

is great , but if you want to go the extra mile , you

1:23:34

could subscribe directly to our buzz sprout page

1:23:36

or you could take those funds and move them

1:23:38

over to patreon , where we also have

1:23:41

some exclusive perks on our patreon patrons

1:23:43

like Stefan and Briar Helping

1:23:45

to keep the show going . It'll get you

1:23:47

behind the scenes access and early

1:23:49

access to episodes like this

1:23:51

one , and we're really working to figure out some

1:23:53

creative ideas to have some bonus content

1:23:56

and additional perks as we

1:23:58

get into our second year of Doing

1:24:00

patreon . So your support's fully

1:24:02

appreciated . But a like , a comment

1:24:04

, a share , like Phil mentioned all the free things

1:24:07

you can do . We truly appreciate

1:24:09

if you can do that for us . Keep the show going

1:24:11

and going strong . With

1:24:14

all that being said , my name is mr Eric almighty

1:24:16

. That is my co-host , fill the Filipino and

1:24:18

our guest , ivan patch . And just

1:24:20

remember , all you have to do Is

1:24:23

wait for it , because I skipped the entire section

1:24:25

of my Something's

1:24:29

off . We released the episodes every

1:24:31

Wednesday , including on

1:24:33

platforms like tick tock for bonus content , and

1:24:35

now all you got to do is wait

1:24:39

for it .

1:24:40

So I heard you're looking for a

1:24:42

go-to source for entertainment . Wait

1:24:45

for it gaming , wait

1:24:47

for it . Anime , ultra

1:24:50

, mr

1:24:52

Eric almighty , and fill the Filipino

1:24:54

. Yeah , they've got you covered and all

1:24:56

you got to do is wait

1:24:58

for it .

1:25:11

This is the wait for it podcast

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