Reporters Dennis Wagner and Laura Gómez traversed all 2,000 miles of the U.S.-Mexico border – Dennis by air, Laura by land. Listen to their stories, their insights, and their tussle over who had it easier.

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This episode was recorded, edited and produced by Hannah Gaber, with field interviews and sound from Laura Gómez, Emmanuel Lozano and Hannah Gaber. Kaila White was our production manager. Our technical director was Nate Kelly. It was written by Nicole Carroll.