As we weave through the complicated narrative of Christian nationalism, Mark David Hall, a distinguished scholar, joins us to dissect the layered meanings and indiscriminate accusations that have come to surround this term. Our conversation is a journey to clarify the murky waters where religion intersects with politics, and where labels can sometimes obscure more than they reveal. We'll tackle the implications of such branding, especially against those with deeply held constitutional values, and why cries of theocracy are alarmingly on the rise. Join us for a profound exploration of patriotism, faith, and the very fabric of American identity.

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