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of it here with us at Wall Builders. I'm

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Rick Green here with David and Tim Barton. Tim

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be the catalyst in your community for a

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restoration of biblical values and constitutional principles. All

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right, David and Tim, we got Rocky Malloy back with

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us. Going to be getting kind of an update on,

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remember we had him on when the Chaplain Bill first

1:34

passed in Texas. Started talking about how

1:36

folks could become a part of that. So that's now

1:38

been in place for a few months and other states

1:40

are now considering this, which is kind of good.

1:42

This could sweep across the country. Yeah,

1:45

Rick, I'm interested to hear the update. I

1:47

know there's been a lot of states looking

1:49

into this. He was at

1:52

our Pro-Family Legislators Conference in November.

1:55

I talked with several state legislators about

1:57

opportunities in their state. We know because

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The recent supreme court decisions

2:02

are now opportunity. To. Restore.

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Religious. Freedom and got of

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a biblical foundation in ways that

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we had not imagine that might

2:11

be possible. He said they are

2:14

now. I saw a it's it's

2:16

can be very interesting to see how for

2:18

this goes in actually I we we have

2:20

through this process even found that at some

2:22

stage is as they are already set up

2:24

thou they would allow chaplains. To. Be

2:26

part of the counseling staff at a school

2:28

and they can already be on Savard or

2:30

be a volunteer as so to speak with

2:33

a they can already have their presence at

2:35

a school. So. That every save

2:37

requires some kind of legislative action, but.

2:39

There. Are a lot of seats considering this. Ad

2:42

and we've heard some really

2:44

interesting results. From.

2:46

Rocky about what has happened in some of

2:48

the schools were job on the gone in

2:50

a in. We. Already know there's

2:52

a lot of people look in algo way to sag and there's

2:55

a lot of dangerous to this. Because. Of

2:57

you allow Christian chaplains. Doesn't that mean you

2:59

have to allow all kinds of other chaplains?

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right? That that doesn't? This open the door.

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There's a lot of people that. Are.

3:06

Are so concerned and and may

3:08

be justifiably soda Some I said

3:10

they're concerned about protecting and preserving

3:13

we as. Because. They've seen the

3:15

abuse of government. They they've seen isaac people

3:17

strategically try to destroy answer down institutions and

3:19

they don't want to Macys more vulnerable. It's

3:21

oh hey, you know what it's it can

3:24

be better for everybody. Please don't do certain

3:26

days because in the other side to it

3:28

didn't take advantage in and we don't have

3:30

to worry about these satanist or whoever else

3:33

am I be. There's a lot of those

3:35

questions that come up and and rocky deals

3:37

with these all the time. By.

3:39

Having to navigate was there. But one of the

3:41

things that a weekend speeds you very easily right

3:43

now, even before he gets a rocky. Is

3:46

one of the questions that comes up as what

3:48

about a separation of church and state. And.

3:50

That this. This. Is the.

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Are almost like the ageless like that

3:56

that the time was argument at least

3:58

since since the eighties. He. Had

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been very prominent in academia.

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We. Really to go bad? Maybe to the fifties

4:05

or sixties when it starts becoming an argument. But.

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By. That that? Maybe late seventies, but by

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the eighties this is the argument. Easier over

4:12

and over into the nineties, you hear it.

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Separation of church and state. That.

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Is Not what the phrase

4:18

actually means to secularized government.

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Needs and government related which would be public schools.

4:24

Is the. The phrase separation sure to say

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came from a letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote. To.

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The Bad: this of Danbury, Connecticut who

4:30

were concerned that the government was going

4:32

to come in And women's their religious

4:34

freedom, their religious expression. Jefferson wrote him

4:36

back and said you don't need to

4:38

worry about losing your religious freedom of

4:41

expression. Congress. Is already protected that

4:43

in fact, they've erected a wall of separation

4:45

from Georgia State. To. Make sure that

4:47

your freedoms can never be violated

4:49

by the Federal government. Would.

4:51

Jefferson said was not that we could

4:53

not have religion in the government. It

4:56

was a the government could not force

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or compel you to be. Part.

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Of a certain religious belief or sex where the

5:02

governor couldn't force or compel you, do not have

5:04

a belief or practice. When he came to fade.

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With. In my mind, even more

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telling about the sole separate interesting argument.

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Jefferson wrote that letter on a

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Friday. A was January

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First Aid you know to on

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January third. Age you know to at

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the Sunday. Thomas. Jefferson. it's in

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a church at the Us Capitol building, where

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he earned a sermon from the Reverend John

5:26

Leland, one of his friends, whom he actually

5:29

had invited to breach. If. Jefferson.

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it actually believed. That. The

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several reasons or to a method you

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see not abv religion and government you

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get app Christianity in in government in

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America then why in the world The

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Jefferson Two days after riding that letter.

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Go. To church in the capitol building

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itself and here a sermon from his

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friend a pastor who me at invited.

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Not. Have that makes it. If.

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That phrase means what people argue. it means

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other reason that matters. Is. because

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the idea from the founding fathers is

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they wanted to separate institutions so

6:03

that the government couldn't control religion,

6:05

but the intent was never to

6:08

secularize institutions, it was to separate them.

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They believed that our rights come from God

6:12

and so in government, they recognized there was

6:15

a God and they recognized the values and

6:17

morals of the Bible, but they believed in

6:19

having a separate institution, not a secular institution.

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So when people look and go, wait a

6:24

second, but chaplain, that's a separation of church

6:26

and state, that phrase is not

6:28

what you think it means. And

6:30

the founding fathers believed that without religion

6:32

and morality, our nation would never

6:35

succeed because we wouldn't have

6:37

the moral foundation, the moral fabric for

6:39

freedom to actually work, our constitution would

6:41

fail. They promoted religion in

6:43

schools. So the idea of having chaplain

6:45

in schools is certainly not contrary to

6:47

the constitution, it's not contrary to the

6:50

founding and it doesn't violate the separation

6:52

of church and state. Now

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I just want to ask a question real quick due

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to our program yesterday, Tim. If

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Thomas Jefferson had church services going at

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the Capitol and he attended

7:03

and he invited a pastor, does that

7:05

make him a Christian nationalist? I'm just

7:07

wondering if we could follow up from

7:09

down. Maybe it's on a modern definition

7:11

of pretty much every founding father, when

7:13

he called a Christian nationalist in these

7:15

days. They obviously were not, but

7:17

yeah, I mean Rick gets a good point

7:19

because they certainly would. That's

7:22

a self-evident answer. They

7:24

said that if you believe that they're a God-given

7:26

and available right, you're a Christian nationalist. He's

7:28

the guy... I think he wrote something about that, didn't he?

7:31

Yeah, he's the guy who wrote that you have God-given and

7:33

available right. He's got to be that. The

7:35

thing to sit and rest about what Tim just

7:37

went through is for about 50 years, we've had

7:39

that religious hostility where they turned separation of church

7:42

and state on his head. In the last five

7:44

years, they've changed that and what they've done, in

7:46

the last five years, the court said, look, it's

7:48

been bad for 50 years, we're going

7:50

back to what it used to be and

7:52

they said that if there's a long-standing historical,

7:55

traditional religious practice, they're going

7:57

to assume it's constitutional. let's

8:00

take chaplains, man, that you

8:02

go back to the military before we had the

8:04

Constitution. George Washington put chaplains in one of the

8:07

first things he did. Once we

8:09

had the Constitution in, they put chaplains

8:11

in. We've been paying chaplains. We do

8:13

that at prisons. We do that at

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legislatures. We do that for police. We

8:17

do that for drug program. We have

8:20

chaplains everywhere. They're paid by the government

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and even in the 50 years of

8:24

hostility, chaplains still survived constitutionally. So

8:26

the question of having a chaplain at school, how

8:28

much easier can it get? That's one

8:31

thing that has stood up even with the

8:33

hostility that's been there from the left. Even

8:35

in the years of hostility, they still

8:37

upheld chaplains. So this is a long-standing

8:40

traditional historical practice. It's one that's going

8:42

to be upheld by the course because

8:44

they've been upholding chaplains. Schools may be

8:46

a new use of it, but that's

8:48

no less of a chaplain than there

8:50

is when you have any other state

8:52

program, whether it's prisons or legislatures or

8:54

anything else. They're all the same from

8:56

that standpoint. Rocky's been doing a lot

8:58

of good work in this and he

9:00

has really been active in working with

9:02

legislatures and they've made some great steps

9:04

and it's going to be fun to

9:07

hear about how this movement is growing across the

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United States and what some of the positive results

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have been. Stay with us folks. Rocky Malloy back

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America's history. Often

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today, it seems that the federal government has

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religious expressions, and even on what

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is and is not moral. Strikingly,

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the founding fathers had intended that

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the federal government never intrude into

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any of these issues. As

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Thomas Jefferson explained, taking

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from the states the moral rule of their

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citizens and subordinating it to the federal government

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would break up the foundations of the Union.

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home concerns and the federal government our foreign

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1-800-8-REBUILD. Welcome

10:23

back to Wall Builders. Thanks for staying with us.

10:25

Great to have Rocky Molloy back with us. We're

10:27

talking about these chaplains in schools. It's a huge,

10:30

positive step forward, and we're trying to get

10:32

it done all over the country. But Rocky, thanks for coming

10:34

on, man. Let's talk about what's been going on with you.

10:37

Hi, Rick. We've been really busy, man, catching

10:39

up with all the legislation moving across the

10:41

country. There's so much interest in God, and

10:43

prayer coming back to school is so exciting.

10:46

People know, right? They recognize

10:49

that we're in trouble and that the

10:51

culture's falling apart. It's crumbling, especially the

10:53

morality in the culture, and the schools

10:55

are a mess, and so they're looking

10:57

for something solid. They're looking for

11:00

something, some truths that they can hold on

11:02

to, and these kids need help. This

11:05

is just a huge, positive step to have

11:08

chaplains in schools. We

11:10

talked before, had you on the program talking about some

11:12

of the places where this is beginning to happen, but

11:15

now you've got, like you said, you're reviewing legislation all

11:17

over the country. Tell us

11:20

what are the states that have done this. Actually, I'm sorry,

11:22

man. Let's back up. Just

11:24

to answer that question that you used to answer about 40 times

11:26

a day, is it okay to have a chaplain in a school?

11:30

Yes. Chaplains have

11:32

been established since before the U.S.

11:34

Constitution, General George Washington, Art of

11:36

Schools Confederation, 200 years

11:39

of case law support chaplains

11:41

because chaplains represent God, not

11:43

the church. That's why it's

11:45

completely legal, and everybody goes, oh, you can't do it.

11:48

There's 10,000 federal chaplains.

11:51

If it was somehow iffy, I'm sure

11:54

all those thousands of people wouldn't be on the

11:56

government payroll. I love

11:58

it. See, I knew you'd been answering that question.

12:00

question a lot. I mean, that's, you know, it's

12:02

almost common sense. Like, you know, the heart, the

12:05

mind, you need counsel, you need godly counsel, you

12:07

need somebody that you can, you

12:09

know, go to in times of need

12:11

and also just mentorship and all

12:14

of those things. And like you said, I mean, we do

12:16

it in the military, we do it in all kinds of

12:18

programs. Obviously the kids need

12:20

this as well. What

12:22

does a school, when they do this,

12:25

is this a paid person?

12:27

Is this a part-time person? What are you generally

12:29

seeing, what does it look like when a chaplain

12:31

is on campus? It's

12:34

almost always recommended. It's a full-time position

12:36

because a chaplain needs to be there

12:38

when children and teachers are coming to

12:40

school, when they're going home. A

12:43

chaplain's number one job is situational

12:45

awareness. What's happening on that campus?

12:48

Who's doing it? When is it happening? And

12:51

they're, really, they're the greatest safety officer

12:54

from that perspective because they know what's

12:56

going on. And because

12:58

they're a confidential source to talk to,

13:01

they're getting information all the time that's

13:03

very personal from people so they can

13:05

help them, but also they help the

13:07

campus. I love it. I

13:10

love it. Tell us, give us

13:12

some examples of where this has been

13:14

done so far and how

13:16

the community has responded. Well,

13:18

you know, we have over 30,000 schools

13:21

with chaplains overseas and it was that

13:23

model the state of Texas used to

13:25

pass this legislation signed in the law

13:27

last summer by Governor Abbott. Most

13:30

recently, Florida passed it and sent it

13:32

to the governor. He's indicated he'll sign

13:34

it, which means Texas and Florida. Louisiana

13:38

has passed it out of both houses and it

13:40

needs one more reading on the floor of the

13:42

House before it goes to the governor of Louisiana.

13:45

Now, tomorrow morning, it's being

13:47

heard on the Senate Committee

13:50

in Alabama. Alabama has a

13:52

Democratic senator that opposed it.

13:55

It looks like it's in a great

13:57

position for Alabama to become law and

13:59

there's about seven other states where it's in

14:01

play. There's also

14:03

about six or seven states where it

14:06

died somewhere in the process, but

14:08

a lot of that wasn't

14:10

really worded correctly, so we're helping those

14:13

things reword it. I

14:15

love it. Oh man. Okay, let's

14:17

talk about those states now where

14:19

it's happening. Some people get concerned that, okay, if you

14:21

open the door to this, you have to let a

14:23

Satanist church

14:26

or whatever they call themselves,

14:28

come in and take

14:30

that job on the campus. What's

14:32

the parameters for what a chaplain is or

14:35

isn't? Well, you know what? I

14:37

think, Rick, that's a very legitimate question, but

14:40

it comes with a certain amount

14:42

of really lack of information. There's

14:45

no such thing as a Satanic chaplain.

14:47

I know they threaten that, but

14:50

there are none. There's

14:52

not one Satanic chaplain hired by

14:55

the federal government, zero. They don't

14:57

qualify. It's a red herring, really.

15:00

People raise this, but it's a non-existent

15:03

challenge. It's non-existent. It's

15:05

a typical demonic threat. They have

15:07

no resources. They

15:09

have no chaplains. No

15:12

chaplains recognized because

15:14

they don't qualify. A thing called

15:16

black letter laws, US Constitution. If

15:19

you blaspheme God, you do not qualify

15:21

to be a religion. No

15:24

Satanist can get a job saying equal

15:26

access because they're not in that group.

15:29

Oh, that's good. That's good. I

15:31

love that. Oh, man. You

15:33

know this stuff. All right. Let's

15:36

talk about, like you said, in other

15:38

countries even, this has been desired because

15:41

they knew they needed this in their schools.

15:43

We've got this hang up in America that

15:45

we have to overcome with these objections because

15:47

of all the lies and distortions over the

15:49

last 50, 60 years. Where

15:52

it is happening, you're already seeing good results.

15:55

The mental health, the kids. It's

15:57

not just the kids. It's the teachers. improving

16:00

it for everybody. So talk a little bit about that.

16:02

You've already got some good data on this. Teachers

16:05

are the primary responsibility because if the teachers

16:07

aren't right, all the kids are going to

16:09

be messed up. So people think that they're

16:12

only in there for the kids, but it's

16:14

really the opposite. Their primary role is to

16:16

support the teachers and then that supports the

16:18

students. But Rick,

16:21

we're getting data like up to

16:23

80% reduction of teen pregnancies, 37%

16:25

increase in graduations, and

16:27

the one that shocks people is

16:30

the rope reported suicide in

16:33

a database set of over 27

16:35

million people. Wow.

16:39

Wow. I

16:41

don't get speechless, Rocky. That's a big one. That's

16:44

huge. I mean, that's been an epidemic in our country. And

16:48

I think what people don't realize is that

16:50

they know the problem's there. But again, this

16:52

hang up, they've got this kind of glitch

16:54

in their brain that, well,

16:56

I know it'd probably be good if a

16:58

person had a godly influence and if

17:01

you recognize there's a creator, you have more hope

17:03

in life and all of those things, but they

17:05

just got that hang up. And so

17:08

as you're overcoming that with legislators, how important is

17:10

it for us to overcome that with

17:12

voters and people back home so that they'll

17:14

support the legislation and support the legislators? And

17:16

what's kind of your elevator pitch for

17:19

the citizen to take this message to their legislator

17:21

and get them to do this in their state?

17:24

Well, one of the, I think the

17:27

deal closer is based

17:30

on empirical clinical evidence

17:32

out of the University

17:34

of Columbia, who provided

17:36

the clinical evidence for

17:38

the US Army testified

17:40

to the US Congress,

17:43

is that not providing

17:45

spiritual care as provided

17:48

by chaplains actually creates

17:50

mental illness. So

17:52

is it any surprise that we have

17:54

an epidemic level of young people killing

17:56

themselves? There's one school in Texas

17:59

with 25... Thousand students.

18:01

And twenty twenty two, twenty six

18:03

kids killed themselves. The youngest was

18:05

six year old little girl. Why?

18:08

Lp kids go to school and

18:10

because there's an absence of spirituality,

18:12

they come home with mental disease.

18:17

Man. Ah you know

18:19

to Rocky we sit on his program all

18:21

the time that you know that that in

18:23

that the bubbles got the answer for every

18:25

problem that we're facing in life in the

18:27

founders of this country understood that is why

18:30

it infused. So. Much of of who

18:32

we were. As. A nation and

18:34

and what you're really doing here is your

18:36

you're getting back to the basic formula of

18:38

would create a good society, recognizing that there

18:40

is a creator. Recognize. In our

18:43

freedoms are I come from that creator, how

18:45

to treat our neighbors, the we We want

18:47

to be treated him in all those basic

18:49

ideas and a chaplain understands that and comes

18:51

in with that foundation. So when these kids

18:53

and these teachers are facing tough, tough things

18:55

in life. They. Don't get this. You.

18:57

Know what? You just be You? You just do

18:59

you use do whatever feels good kind of advice.

19:02

They get advice that here's what actually works. Here's

19:04

what actually produces a good result in your life.

19:06

It just common sense tells me. That.

19:08

The more chaplains or in schools all of those stats

19:10

that you just. Described as all the good

19:12

ones were going to get and the bad ones

19:14

were going to get less off. And and it's

19:17

just a really really positive thing. Ah

19:19

one encourage people to support which are doing

19:21

because I know this takes a lot of

19:23

effort. You not only the legislation and getting

19:25

a password, then training chaplains and all of

19:28

those different things. National School Chaplains association.org is

19:30

that the best website for them to go

19:32

for donations for possibly signing up to get

19:35

trained as a chaplain for following legislation their

19:37

state. I think you do it all at

19:39

that website. We. Do they

19:41

air There is as you think

19:43

that also got a Campus chaplains.org

19:45

the that well gave Macys you're

19:47

out there was a mouthful while

19:49

ago. National School job as I

19:51

yes okay to say that again.

19:53

test Campus Chef with.org Campus Chaplains

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dot Org goes to the exact

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same website Mu a simpler. Brazil

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and was.org and been a number to

20:02

call if they'd like to consider becoming

20:04

a chap on least find out what

20:06

is involved. Gonna. Give you the number. Yep!

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Least four or five. Eight,

20:12

Three One Three to Nine Nine. Call

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that number and find out what it

20:16

takes to be a school Chaplin. Four.

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O Five. Eight. Three,

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Nine succeed Call and their find out

20:25

what it takes to be a school

20:27

chaplaincy. You know, encourage effect Src, just

20:30

encourage your legislators. But Rocky isn't there

20:32

a role here in the sky at

20:34

the school board level as well. I

20:36

think the Texas legislation allows a school.

20:39

To. Decide whether not to do this. And so

20:41

I remember seeing some school boards voting. On.

20:43

This so should people that are listening

20:45

also be go to their local school

20:47

boards, not just their legislators. While the

20:49

time to vote in Texas has passed,

20:52

so. At the day we're still collecting

20:54

the data. But. It looks like

20:56

a majority of school districts voted

20:58

in favor of chaplains. Powwow.

21:01

And. So it was to count

21:03

of the classic blue red which

21:05

is really unfortunate because to the

21:08

religious minorities and racial minorities are

21:10

the greatest benefactors of Chaplin. So

21:12

people are arrayed that it could

21:15

be dangerous for alternative lifestyle children

21:17

and all that life is dangerous

21:19

enough for them. Already. Times

21:22

more likely to commit suicide

21:24

if you're alternative lifestyle child,

21:26

but whatever that is. Saplings,

21:29

Reduce bowling. So.

21:31

Whatever groups get beat up on, when

21:34

the chaplain shows up, it stops happening.

21:36

Cause there's an adult their that knows

21:38

what the righteousness is supposed to look

21:40

like, not just like a regular teacher.

21:43

So. They're. The same person to

21:45

go. To so if they really

21:47

help protect everyone's freedom. I

21:50

love it! Ah, So good. Rocky.

21:53

you doing the lord's work man making a big

21:55

difference out there in our country in in our

21:57

home state of texas here but now across the

21:59

nation Just a fantastic thing

22:01

for people to get involved in and

22:03

be a part of. Phone number if you're interested in possibly

22:06

being a chaplain, find out what it takes to be a

22:08

chaplain. 405-831-3299. And

22:13

then for all of the different things, donating to

22:15

help make this happen across the country, following

22:18

legislation in your state and helping to

22:20

get legislators involved in getting this done

22:22

in your particular state, perhaps what's

22:24

happening in your local school as well,

22:26

all of that, go to campuschaplains.org. Rocky,

22:31

God bless you man. Let's get you back soon for another

22:33

update. Yes sir, thank you. Stay with us

22:35

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the loy for joining us. Good news guys. I mean it's

23:50

obviously a difference maker. I mean listen to those stats.

23:52

I mean everybody should want that happening in their community.

23:55

And listening to Rocky go

23:57

through those stats, I was reminded

23:59

of... article I saw, I think about

24:01

a week ago, but Richard Dawkins, who is

24:03

the leading atheist, one of the best-known atheists

24:05

in the world, he's in an

24:08

article recently, it's lamenting the decline of

24:10

Christianity. Now think about that, you have

24:12

an atheist who's lamenting the decline

24:14

of Christianity. I copied this

24:18

quote, I love it. Here's this atheist, he

24:20

says, I like to live in a culturally

24:22

Christian country, although I do not

24:25

believe a single word of the Christian faith. So

24:28

what's he like? He likes a Christian culture, he

24:30

doesn't believe in Christianity, but he likes what it

24:32

produces. And look at all the fruits

24:34

that's coming in these schools that have already started

24:36

chaplains. They're having chaplains and look the better fruit

24:38

that you have. If you do what

24:41

Jesus said, judge a tree by its fruits,

24:43

look how much better the community is going

24:45

to be because of this. Look how better the

24:48

lives of these kids are going to be, the

24:50

lives of these teachers, the people who don't

24:52

get hurt in crimes that might have been

24:54

committed because now we're seeing crime go down

24:56

in these areas. This is good stuff, this is

24:58

cultural Christianity and that's the way it should have

25:00

an impact is on the culture. Well

25:03

guys it blows my mind that the

25:05

schools that have had chaplains have had zero suicides.

25:08

And you feel like okay it's only gonna be

25:10

a matter of time, but here's the reality is

25:13

when you are looking at the suicide epidemic,

25:15

when you have hopelessness, when there is no

25:17

God, then what was the purpose of your

25:20

life? Where's their meaning in life? How do

25:22

you have vision for their life if there

25:24

is no God? But once you learn

25:26

there is a God and that you're not

25:28

an accident and you're here on purpose for a

25:30

reason, God made you for such

25:32

a time as this, it

25:34

makes way more sense why

25:37

you wouldn't have suicide if you

25:39

know that life has meaning and your life

25:41

has value and there's purpose. This is

25:43

incredible and I'm so glad he's out

25:45

there doing this and for everybody listening,

25:48

You ought to see. If Your state is working

25:50

on this piece of legislation. contact your legislature, see

25:52

if this can happen in your state. If You're

25:54

involved locally in a school board, see what you

25:56

can do to get a chaplain in your school.

25:58

It Will make a difference. For the students,

26:00

their. What

26:03

books are ya? There's an action step for you. Makes

26:05

we go to that website today and look for ways

26:08

to get chaplains into your local schools. Listen most of

26:10

our audience you private school home school I hope

26:12

by in fact I courage everybody. Get. Your

26:14

kid out of these public schools. One reason

26:16

we're so for school choice, we want to

26:18

enable families to get their kids into a

26:20

better environment. In a school system, this

26:22

gonna actually supports your values instead of tear

26:24

them down. By. Their So lot of people

26:27

in your community, even if you're already home school in a

26:29

private school. You've got people in

26:31

in your community, the still have their kids in

26:33

those schools and it is much better to have

26:35

a chaplain in that school and I'd better for

26:37

it For for your family, for your community Please

26:39

be a part of this. We prefer to listen

26:41

you Been listening to the while of issue.