Chris and Andy talk about the news that ‘True Detective’ has been renewed for Season 5 with Issa Lopez at the helm, and some of show creator Nic Pizzolatto’s comments about the latest season (1:00). Then, they talk about two Apple shows they have been watching, ‘Masters of the Air’ and ‘The New Look’ (23:55), and how they define the company’s take on historical fiction. They then discuss the finale of ‘Monsieur Spade’ (41:11), before talking about their experience seeing ‘Madame Web’ (56:03).

Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy GreenwaldProducer: Kaya McMullen

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