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to about the goes towards curse? Yeah big fan

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ago Stories: I'm a big fan of yeah stories.

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I've had a couple weird things happened to me

1:30

and my life but. You. Said some

1:32

happens you with the Rainbow Room here in L

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A and I actually had some. don't weird So

1:36

I want to hear your story and I'm going

1:39

to share some that happen to me like rape

1:41

a feeling good as. The. End of

1:43

last year right before my health stuff

1:45

and and I've heard I've shared this

1:47

story previously in. other people have also

1:49

written in whatever about the Rainbow Room

1:52

specifically so apparently lot of stuff is

1:54

going on. I mean I know the

1:56

comedy stores post yeah, paranormal activity we

1:58

we hang out there. The Law but I

2:00

don't know about the Rainbow Room being one of

2:03

the a been their buds audio being a haunted.

2:05

Spot I was there. This is like I

2:07

don't know. Three four years ago now and

2:09

I was there at a show at the

2:12

comedy store Sizes tell my wife and I

2:14

and my age or and like an early

2:16

dinner like a five o'clock dinner or down

2:18

the rainbow room. And. So three dead.

2:21

Be. Now it's I got on a Wednesday

2:23

or Thursday and we get your little early.

2:25

She's my wife and I. Were waiting for

2:27

Joe to show up while awaiting. I actually

2:30

use the bathroom and in the bathrooms on

2:32

the second floor. And is that little tiny

2:34

bathroom that you walk in one? no more

2:36

than two urinals, right? We walk in the

2:39

right, in front of you sink right there

2:41

when you walk in and I think she's

2:43

one stall on the left. Side.

2:45

I go up there is dead. There were two people coming

2:48

down the stairs when I went up that biddy gimme like

2:50

a weird by but like saws adeptly little bit of it

2:52

ever has based on like what what was that dude energy

2:54

to was felt weird. Could

2:56

be to some weirdo l a guy. And.

2:59

Ah by Go the bathroom. Nobody else is

3:01

in the bathroom. As I'm using the urinal,

3:03

I notice the hot water is on full

3:06

blast in the sink and and I just

3:08

thought that was weird because that's something I

3:10

would notice walking in and my personality. I.

3:13

Would turn it off like I know I

3:15

would turned off by saw that and was

3:17

i was really usual was their steam coming

3:19

up from the sink and again the with

3:21

my brain were some like with that lawsuit

3:23

way nap and a complex risk assessments have

3:25

your water that hot summers gonna scout themselves

3:27

and are gonna come after you side may

3:29

have any thoughts on this use the bathroom

3:31

go shut off the hot water be or

3:33

are just you know like a wash my

3:36

hands and i like mean that was that

3:38

was really hot and I wanted to see

3:40

by could recreate on like I'm surprised that

3:42

they would let. The water gets so fucking

3:44

hot steam would come off so I put only

3:46

the hot water on. I must a way to

3:48

thirty seconds. it won't get anywhere near that hot.

3:51

It's about that just feels weird and the and

3:53

it was just a weird kind of energy in

3:56

the bathroom. To start with that guy coming down

3:58

the stairs buzzes still feels off so I. Go

4:00

downstairs and go back to our

4:02

booth. And. The when the

4:04

waitress comes by a like hey i've

4:06

literally never ask somebody my life is

4:08

question. And I go sorry but seems super

4:10

weird but it is. This place on it. And.

4:13

She was like without hesitation. Though. She

4:15

had oh yeah super hornets and I go

4:17

what I was upstairs in the bathroom and

4:20

then she stops being She goes and the

4:22

hot water turned all. I saw an ad

4:24

that dad gave me the chills. And.

4:27

I end up to the pearly that that she says

4:29

that's like a regular thing, one of numerous things that

4:31

happens there. And. So then, just

4:33

like it's chills now. so it wasn't

4:35

like this huge thing. I didn't see

4:37

some shadowy figure, didn't hear a disembodied

4:39

voice. But for the life of me

4:41

to this day, I can't figure out.

4:44

How. That would happen. Other.

4:47

Than the paranormal. Where. It's like. Why

4:49

would she know that? Why is that a

4:52

regular things and nobody was in the bathroom?

4:54

Messing. With me but there was no

4:56

one else there's saw. Try to see x

4:59

so small you would know and I would

5:01

know and somebody once the few people I've

5:03

told a story to elect will maybe they

5:05

they mess with the pla mean somehow downstairs

5:08

I'm like I know enough about plumbing that's

5:10

not. A. Thing. Like. You don't

5:12

have some extra secret valve downstairs that

5:14

overrides and solve it or not though

5:16

a waitress or whatever. Say now you're

5:19

the first person ever say the right

5:21

regularly media Eller. What's Alexa? The weird

5:23

feeling? Seen that happen. Her

5:25

saying that all together I'm like there's

5:27

something here. There's definitely some the of

5:29

Iom I can't remember exactly when a

5:32

was with some time last year. I

5:34

want to see my friend Prof the

5:36

Rapper. If you don't know Prof go

5:38

check his music out. He was at

5:40

the Roxy. Tell you hear a lot

5:42

about Rainbow Roxy there to venues Rainbow

5:44

Room as next door as the restaurant

5:46

bar whatever rock sees them the venue.

5:48

There's a somewhat and little area in

5:50

between the two people hang out there.

5:52

whatever. I step outside. I invited Sarah

5:54

Wind. Saying to Tim Congdon am

5:56

were all sit outside smoking some

5:58

weed. And. It's a

6:00

vibe there, You know via there's there's

6:03

literally a do that is. Bald.

6:05

Head and painted white like Uncle

6:07

Fester. Not I mean like vampires.

6:09

Yeah I guess it now side to

6:12

Africa right? Yes. and I know

6:14

like. If. You were not. If

6:16

you are new to com liebig out as

6:18

says Larry over that's where materials this guy

6:20

I just put now begun like in their

6:22

world. early access to any you know I've

6:24

had to spot and daddy but to me

6:26

to sell for looks like a what I

6:28

hell he's a vampire. Yeah for real they

6:30

look like vampires. The mail had a whole

6:32

thing. So. We go in

6:34

cyber hungry. We sit

6:36

down to subtle table in the bottom

6:38

floor sehring Tim go up the stairs

6:40

to use the restroom. They come back

6:43

and we see this this couple. This

6:45

lady I want to say she was

6:47

at least I remember the feather being

6:49

read. She was in some sort of

6:51

read and was a dude walking right

6:53

behind her. As. If almost

6:55

he was hers serve and or slave like

6:57

right up honor. What does she have a

7:00

feather and never smoked or never spoke? excuse

7:02

me I'll know but we're watching amount of

7:04

her hair nope in her hand or watch

7:06

interviewed on around the whole place and she's

7:09

just touching things with this feather. What she's

7:11

not paying any minor sees over there touching

7:13

talented. Well we're dude behind or

7:15

found ramming almost touching her like right

7:18

up honor thy just and not saying

7:20

a word. Eyes down. Some. Weird

7:22

cult shit and then they come by. I look

7:24

up and sees at our table and she started

7:26

feather in Me switches are starting your fingers feather

7:28

me is Sarah Wine sank can call them swear

7:30

up and us and we didn't know again I

7:33

say see yeah we genuinely could not tell this

7:35

was a man or woman in a way that

7:37

so we called her as a yeah and we

7:39

started laughing because they were a friend Sarah give

7:41

like oh my god he's Gus other by as

7:43

a and she says touch me and I'm like

7:46

what the fuck you don't lady could now call

7:48

for hear what is that the she same things

7:50

Nelson. Okay, often. To. Touch

7:52

him at the feather Yes and I'm like what

7:54

are you doing Good fuck outta here it's we

7:56

as we're death as weird Walk up instantly got

7:59

red father years. My face even for

8:01

Hollywood that we're all that is right.

8:03

But also just me know I've got

8:05

a sustainable yes your meat. And.

8:07

The guy behind her is he has

8:09

enough than eyes down. He's as the

8:11

I'm in his chest is touching her

8:14

bag was legs are glued together. Okay

8:16

this is so I'm. It wasn't.

8:18

Been. Oh no few weeks or I feel like

8:20

I could be I'm always rice. could have been

8:22

March I know was it's but it was toward

8:25

the end of the year and it wasn't Ivan

8:27

said the sir I. Than

8:29

happy to meet in. I discussed bothered

8:31

yet cursed by some late like is

8:33

that a curse Yeah and then January

8:36

boom the hospital hits and I fucking

8:38

almost die. I costs like is why

8:40

I read I clawed my lungs clot

8:42

red red and I was like what

8:44

does it was all about the rainbow

8:46

rooms a while place burrow dit. Dit

8:49

the had she only touched you did you

8:51

see or touch other people know I saw

8:53

her touch other things she was touch columns

8:55

and you know where the let me seeing

8:57

his inertia gone around all than touching and

9:00

does painting almost looks like she's painting with

9:02

this further than she comes up and starts

9:04

parts of my face but there were other

9:06

wasn't just me simple sarah given their there

9:08

are other people in their to she didn't

9:11

touch another person went right up to our

9:13

table. Touch me I'm a freak magnet it's

9:15

always been the same s that is so

9:17

odd you don't like I'm. People.

9:20

Who here story like this to like little things, little

9:22

things and like you know right I'm off in just

9:24

like refuse to believe in any kind of like paranormal

9:26

stuff I just think about like. Like

9:28

as we're sharing these stories, you know

9:30

the more you talk about these things,

9:33

other people, so many people have story

9:35

no doubt. you know this whole incident

9:37

here. The So incident Their I'm like

9:39

there's no way that literally every one

9:41

is just imagining shit or remembering things

9:44

incorrectly or line. Not everybody. No barrier.

9:46

I grew up with a friend of

9:48

mine air side and they had this

9:50

old house and I believe it was

9:52

Napoleon's like Burrow. I don't know what

9:55

it was or Paul Revere. it's what

9:57

have you seen. Rufus Yeah, storable

9:59

figure. The own this property that they

10:01

had lived on. It's beautiful. It's well

10:03

taken care of area old fuck and

10:06

house. Big. Is shit. And.

10:08

His mom's always sound Assisi's ghost in a

10:10

ghost. Year ago that was there's a mile and

10:12

a daughter I see float not bar stairs

10:14

and shit like whatever and for years that

10:16

honest the deaths. So in high school one

10:18

night we all decided do this big sleep over.

10:20

it's just all dude but twelve of us

10:22

were just drink in his parents are gone,

10:24

were party him. And we

10:27

decide to go. And they have like

10:29

a proper dining rooms with Athena biggest

10:31

table. yeah, fourteen falcon people with the

10:33

big chandelier over us and we dem

10:35

the chandelier just enough and we're all

10:37

in there playing cards and African chandelier

10:40

to start getting a good editor. And

10:42

I mean no one's above it's know

10:44

I'm you're not feeling vibration. That is

10:46

just as he owns a weird art

10:48

in a fucking Go Now We're all

10:50

looking at each other like now my

10:53

mama mama mama and he's a soldier

10:55

He just said. Cause Jesus thirty

10:57

six Look at odds with I might fall be

10:59

as I used to be. scared to death. Spend

11:01

the night is it? Let's go to the attic.

11:03

That's where we had all the the music and

11:05

drama. I'm scared to go play drums in your

11:07

area of scared. Do I used to like? Wow.

11:10

I was more skeptical a couple years ago. And

11:12

I used to like yours entertain the start of

11:14

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11:17

like the app personalities are so bad on like

11:19

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11:21

the base? No way Now. Like. There's

11:23

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11:25

stuff starts to freak me out. We did

11:27

we'd you boards of told that I don't

11:29

ever played with all the stare me and

11:32

on a religious police gives it as. First

11:34

of all it's scary because it's goddamn Parker

11:36

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11:38

as far as I said to be scared

11:40

but like but we made one one time.

11:43

And. We were in high school. I'm

11:45

a freshman. I'm fourteen and my friends'

11:47

parents are gone and his sister Sistine,

11:49

their year old are us. And there's

11:51

the Does sophomores at dawn or age

11:53

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11:55

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years and years? Or. So

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now. We. Can't wait to go back

16:16

to the house for Oh my god So

16:18

the two people moving the I'm plans just

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16:22

this and then a party you there's a

16:24

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16:26

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16:28

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16:30

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our Edgar Edgar Edgar was his name yup

16:35

they kept saying and you would never knows

16:37

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16:39

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16:41

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16:43

Edgar I'm listen and them ask questions and

16:45

it's saying the yes is in the nose

16:47

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16:49

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16:52

lines up I'm like holy fuck yeah but

16:54

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16:56

Saturday we go the library during the day

16:58

like holy fuck we come back like you

17:00

know I believe this It's so now everybody

17:02

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17:04

again and now my elbow on this shit

17:06

dude yes and it's a homey weegee bore

17:09

which is supposed to be the like most

17:11

devil Chi Mcadoo. We did my of the.

17:14

And. I'll never forget this. It's just

17:16

this one's weird timing. but. My

17:19

buddy put the pizza novel and we're

17:21

doing the weed you board and that

17:23

all the lights are off and they

17:26

say. A put a pizza in

17:28

a while and he and they say egger you're here

17:30

give us a sign. And

17:32

I mean at that second bank?

17:34

Almost the goddamn fire now. Oh

17:36

fuck beings fucking fire suits. out

17:38

of the goddamn I'm I'm like

17:40

what off Fox party Mardi freak

17:42

that. The. Asshole he he forgot to

17:44

take the car. bored out. Of

17:53

over this. Summer

17:56

I saw like we were scared

17:58

of fuck do up. That road

18:00

scare longer skill that his dad

18:02

comes home. they come home once

18:04

young day. And. They

18:06

see this fucking weedy board and his dad

18:09

freaked the fuck out like he goes off

18:11

on us to kid. On the other hand

18:13

in he snaps at mother fucker over his

18:15

legs. yeah he throws at the fuck and

18:17

trashy takes to track down the bottom of

18:19

the hill, the driveways excuse me the fuck

18:21

and thing enough to ever play that shit

18:24

again. We starts on about eggers are gonna

18:26

want to hear any of it on here

18:28

any other he was really fuck and spooked.

18:30

really suit or shit. yeah. My. First

18:32

started doing like skirted I was where

18:35

the we run out of stories I

18:37

wouldn't know there are so many stories

18:39

we do like span stories every episode

18:41

I usually to. No.

18:43

Shortage is it is. It's crazy how

18:46

many intense multiple witnesses. You know this

18:48

isn't just me imaginary, that kind of.

18:50

She added airports exactly where that than

18:52

the person that you're with says you

18:55

haven't told them anything and they explained

18:57

you exactly what you just saw inside.

18:59

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19:02

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19:04

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19:06

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veteran, homie, militia. How many souls have

19:13

die. At all and that low air

19:15

tragically and quick fry where they might lead

19:17

an email alerts and zooming I can't imagine

19:19

being have been the military where we walk

19:22

up to each other and I just started

19:24

a war at all. It's way or every

19:26

time we'd or by goes to wonder why

19:28

op Iran and the other way like a

19:31

motherfucker. Everytime I see those old movies I

19:33

think about like how do you get stuck

19:35

in the front row by using the people

19:38

in the front row I would be working

19:40

so hard out of a cramp speaker. Other

19:42

only be I. Know I target horses and

19:44

I did have to have to make it

19:46

a the back row follow party is just

19:48

gonna like proudly march along in the front

19:50

wrote be the Spock and Cannon Fodder Gimme

19:52

Gimme One of the wildest ghost stories you've

19:54

heard. One of my favorites. I mean that

19:57

they all kind of blend out while slight

19:59

this the one. It is like my go

20:01

to in the sense of. How.

20:03

Could this be made up like he just such

20:05

an interesting story to encourage people who are skeptical

20:07

about the paranormal to look into this once it's

20:09

terrorists. Seat of Basa is her name and she

20:12

was a a woman from the Philippines and we

20:14

did this like episode like couple years ago. But.

20:16

She moved as a young woman from the

20:18

Philippines to Chicago. Ah she had studied music

20:20

and stuff but the end up in the

20:22

medical field so she's a nurse now in

20:25

Chicago. living alone in this big highrise apartment

20:27

building do a musical lessons in support of

20:29

our house here in there working full time

20:31

job and then everybody likes her. Sweet lady

20:33

just gets murdered out of nowhere somebody broke

20:35

into her apartment or she let them and

20:37

they did know for sure. They

20:39

find her body's naked bodies of they think

20:42

their sexual motive around it and it initially

20:44

and there's like and they'd set fire to

20:46

things like they piled like furniture honor and

20:48

and like burned it like a weird crime

20:50

scene but zero suspects and that they don't

20:53

have a fucking so there's no leads so

20:55

the case is just cold from the get

20:57

go. The two detectives who would later like

20:59

talk to a journalist like the Boston Now

21:02

was Harold in these newspapers. Said

21:05

that like you know we just basically thought was

21:07

going to be unsolved Weeks go by, it's and

21:09

then this. Officer it. another department

21:11

like here think I have a a possible

21:13

lead view on the terrace either Basa unsolved

21:15

murders you go talk to the doctor in

21:17

this sub other part of Chicago. So the

21:19

autopsy this guy and they say that the

21:21

first thing comes out of his mouth is

21:23

dude as believe in ghosts. And

21:25

is at the time they're like shit. We've

21:27

been seven a wild goose chase is the

21:29

complete fucking ways to time and the like

21:31

now but like what do you got what

21:33

he tells in this crazy story where he

21:36

said like a little over a week earlier

21:38

his wife are also from the Philippines their

21:40

balls in the Philippines but we're not friends

21:42

with heresy to Basa his wife had done

21:44

like up orientation one time with her the

21:46

hospital but they worked a different hospital, different

21:48

social circles. not a friend. I'm. Wife.

21:50

Wakes up the middle, the night pops up in the

21:53

you know is sitting in bed sir here if that's

21:55

or. Yep! Start speaking

21:57

in a weird voice. His wife does.

22:00

Claiming to be terrorists eat Abbas A He does

22:02

know who the hell terrorists eat his ways. His

22:04

wife was his wife in the middle than I

22:06

was like possessed by Tirado Odell He he is

22:08

not a big believer of the stuff he thinks

22:10

she does have and like a lucid dream stock

22:13

and in her sleep and so she gives all

22:15

these details This is you killed me. You have

22:17

to call the police You have to tell them

22:19

to look into this guy like all these crime

22:21

details he just thinks is why Soccer crazy doc.

22:24

Doesn't. Follow up on shit. she goes back to bed.

22:26

He goes back to bed. Week. Goes

22:28

by. Wakes. Up again and Moon Knight

22:30

same voice but now angry. why didn't you call

22:32

the police? I told you common out his way

22:35

out of his wife's mouth feel see what's your

22:37

dream our the like what vs but he's a

22:39

little weirded out and he goes week. You can't

22:41

just use you gotta give me more you that

22:43

it can be phone numbers You gotta give me

22:45

like basically more if ah miss it exists humor

22:47

in his wife. Will. Now or

22:49

he writes down like phone numbers and names

22:52

that she gives him of basically tells him

22:54

like hey, jewelry was stolen from the apartments

22:56

they don't even know what's been stolen to.

22:58

They didn't be no no she had my

23:00

dad got it from me from the Philippines.

23:03

No one else would be able to buy

23:05

it around here. Ah this guy killed me.

23:07

This some guy worked with his other nurse.

23:09

He came to work on my Tv under

23:11

the guise of pixie. My Tv murdered me

23:13

to steal my jewelry and other things. His

23:16

girlfriend is wearing this necklace right now sees

23:18

been crazy specific details. Gives other

23:20

names of these friends of mine.

23:22

Bring. Them in Zabel verify that that

23:25

necklace came from the Philippines and was

23:27

mine would not a sexual crime. He

23:29

stabbed me in the back. Like all

23:31

these details that would not release the

23:33

public's and now they're like holy shit

23:36

because this lady knows all these things.

23:38

They follow up they they get the

23:40

boyfriend to come down to the station

23:42

share this information with them are also

23:44

go to war He to the station

23:47

another officer goes to his girlfriend's place

23:49

she is wearing that necklace. They're also

23:51

calling the friends who verify. Have them

23:53

some over. Bring the girl from to the station.

23:55

every comes down. Yep! That's. Her necklace

23:57

see now breaks down. He confesses. And

24:00

you to fuck all the details were correct

24:02

that she get every the know my resolve

24:05

everything was correct. Then. A little

24:07

weird like ending on this thing there is a

24:09

mistrial. There's like a there are some procedural error

24:11

or something happened. where was you criminal like a

24:13

hung jury So looks like he's gonna be all

24:15

to get away with it because now whatever they

24:17

messed up on won't be able to be introduced

24:19

in the next trial and is looking good for

24:21

him to actually get away with all this. Out.

24:24

Of nowhere he confesses again and

24:26

like I just did it up.

24:28

a guilty plead guilty and. The.

24:30

Story is that his her ghost showed up

24:32

in his cell the night before and based

24:34

he was like oh fuck and haunt you

24:37

for the rest of your days. Off

24:40

Assess Eight. so it's like it's still a

24:42

story like that in the in the officers

24:45

when they're being interviewed the like we're not

24:47

paranormal people. We will be last out of

24:49

the department's. If. We like suddenly the

24:51

Fuck and Ghostbusters and with the guy he

24:53

would say he like how else to explain

24:56

it he goes is that. Doctor's.

24:59

Wife who's a nurse wouldn't have said what

25:01

she said In a dream state in the

25:03

middle the night. Gave. Perfect details sell

25:05

This raises the per we would Never saw

25:07

this case. So. My to

25:09

me I make her fucking ghost came

25:12

back to solve her own that foot

25:14

and bad as yeah yeah mine does

25:16

If I were you meet you my

25:18

lazy as go faster were during the

25:20

an. Arm or

25:23

it. So I was. Sarnia wanted to

25:25

talk about reminiscing in thing I like

25:27

them. one of the he's use the

25:29

hell was he could talk about losing

25:31

your virginity and actually let's hear it.

25:33

it will tie into a ghost law

25:35

as an ivy of variables. Great folks,

25:37

but it's is this is it's a

25:39

terrible. Story but it was just like it

25:41

melt know and one and as a beautiful

25:43

hours times story to that one out of

25:45

the as i feel other is especially ruff

25:47

ones were so i was a late bloomer.

25:49

And. I did lose my virginity to after

25:51

high school to not for lack of interests but just

25:54

are. We also live lack of them all. As found

25:56

out you know a lot of pigeons there was a

25:58

lack of interest coming the other way. They were like

26:00

the girl that I were into the we're Not Into Me. So.

26:03

I I meet this girl from like mark hours.

26:05

they were down just in case. I mean just

26:07

go for another town in Idaho. Thought.

26:09

Through a friend. So kind of long distance you

26:11

like to three hours away. We. Start

26:13

dating and she's She's Mormon. I'm

26:16

Not Mormon. She

26:18

tried to get mean the church. I do

26:20

go a little bit like, you know, like

26:22

young love, like first a grill girlfriend. I'm

26:24

really into this girl and then you know

26:26

her. Being like religious, I didn't think that

26:28

sex was necessarily on the table real before

26:30

marriage or whatever. But. Then she

26:32

is the one driving it. After a

26:34

while a wanted ready to go to

26:36

college. Now she's the one by keep

26:38

talking about how her sisters and brothers

26:40

all think robin sex Anyways xxxx sometimes

26:42

like we I mean I I would

26:44

love to be. And she's like

26:46

oh our Adam are the exact conversation was

26:48

like okay it's where Santa, my mom's a

26:50

little wiper Idaho and then we just go

26:52

for a walk and we just go outside.

26:55

I was a condom and we go to

26:57

have sex and design outside. Where are under

26:59

the stars on on this this little hill

27:01

Boca just as little he'll get. We're not

27:03

just gone out to a tree and bend

27:05

the know normally get like a on the

27:07

dirt I think essentially just like a concert

27:09

hand. Are you know if it's her first

27:11

time also her first time ago and and

27:14

I'm but she's leading this. And

27:16

it. So. I me I'm

27:18

I'm happy to be there but she also seems

27:20

apprehensive so I keep checking in with how much

27:22

are you sure and like we don't have to

27:24

do this. ah you know we don't need to,

27:27

we can weights and she's like no I want

27:29

to I want to and then we start having

27:31

sex and almost immediately she starts crying and so

27:33

I'm like we don't need to do this like

27:35

up on like worried about like what's going on

27:37

with her and she's like know just just just

27:40

finish I want to do This is so and

27:42

so now what? Already so sad Now it's like.

27:44

This. Is not a sexy energy

27:46

like at all? Well. I

27:49

mean first time it's a guy proposition fuck forty

27:51

secretary right? you know, Source and then I'm not

27:53

and then she still upset. I'm like I'm like

27:55

why do we do this if like you were

27:57

upset, whatever and she's like it's not you. Not

28:00

you just as rocket my back Know

28:02

that that? Is

28:06

this is the only These are

28:08

the Rossiter I got my bible.

28:10

doesn't matter much of the snow

28:12

but what's he says She goes.

28:14

She ends up telling me that

28:17

the entire time we're having sex

28:19

in about have sex see thought

28:21

her father her dead I knew

28:23

her dad was dead. But. I

28:25

didn't know what happened is this

28:27

is blocking a nightmare. She thinks

28:30

that her dad's ghost is watching

28:32

us and strongly disapprove is ashamed

28:34

of her. Some fellow emerged see

28:36

said as I want to do

28:38

to sit at a historic events

28:40

which was it was just so.

28:42

What's worse is credited with thirty

28:44

or older. So much worse. Then

28:46

she proceeds to tell me that

28:48

her dad had molested her and

28:50

her sisters growing. Oh my God.

28:53

They ended up reporting m her

28:55

mom. Did he went to jail

28:57

while he's awaiting trial for raping

28:59

a molesting his daughters, killed himself

29:01

and sell. Cheese. Answer

29:03

I said Started by him. Now

29:08

surfer fire up. Said

29:11

something else is. That

29:14

is the author or editor for the like

29:16

over I don't. Know

29:19

if. I

29:23

don't have sex like. For like, ovary.

29:27

Like in in the next girlfriend like see

29:29

wants me to have sex and college. Total.

29:32

Impotence. Or. And then

29:34

I have to tell her really how fucked up

29:36

my first time was and then and then it

29:38

was like she has to be like my therapist

29:40

Now it took like a week. Of.

29:42

Her wanting to for me to be able to have

29:44

sex because it mess my brain up so that eases

29:46

cry in front of sexy and I'm like in my

29:48

head I'm like i swear to god if you fucking

29:50

tell me the your dad killed himself because of. My

29:53

oh my God. you're

29:56

right! Ah. Ah,

29:59

so was a. There you toll on the

30:01

crab v about making love the something different

30:03

than a person and Korea and I'm went

30:05

back and that a check So lot of

30:07

inanimate objects yale and how your own out.

30:10

Of France's out here. From where it had

30:12

so hard since I was, that's a weird

30:14

little kid looking back were when I think

30:16

it's fairly normal for boys. the lights. Are.

30:19

Have sex with like a pillow

30:21

or whatever. do shit yes humps it.

30:23

I remember I'm pretty sure was a

30:25

good amount of this pretty sore was

30:28

thief Simone for told us about his

30:30

brother. One like a carnival the store

30:32

for yourself it just wouldn't worry

30:34

over. Rail

30:37

Us. If

30:40

this is this is so it's disturbing

30:42

probably as well. But like I mentioned

30:44

above, my step mom not to make

30:46

them myself. I used to. Fuck.

30:49

The. Pillows on the couch as he likes.

30:51

It was a life is and I would

30:54

come inside of a law and it is.

30:57

Com era in the bill of them. people back and

30:59

they receive. Receive

31:01

her head on a later on. You

31:15

want to have Now how much sit My brother's

31:17

must have done around the house that I don't

31:19

even know about. Off so many things are on

31:21

our. Way.

31:26

Before that. The. First or

31:28

it's a ran random thing. I put my dick

31:31

and it was like olives. I was insane. I

31:33

must have in the i don't know as almost

31:35

five or six. a little. And. A

31:37

member. I'm in the bathroom. And

31:39

we had this space heater like old

31:41

school space heater with the metal little

31:43

wire little privacy you don't put your

31:45

hand on a of the hop artist

31:47

us he said those little metal metal

31:50

wires are get hot and i just.

31:52

I. Would become like, ah, like intrusive

31:54

thoughts. You. Know I've had of my whole life

31:56

but it's like well, you should go do this Like a really

31:58

stupid thing he didn't do that. Do that all. the

32:00

little kid I guess I didn't know how to like

32:03

know shut the fuck. That's what I'm crazy. I

32:05

was eventually follow them and I. And.

32:07

I used to do again. I don't know why

32:09

do this but sometimes my wiener I would. I

32:11

play pacman a lot and I would like to

32:13

like you squish the have your dick it it

32:15

would open up the mouse. it was like Pac

32:17

Man You got it. Must. Be

32:21

a lot. So they can look. Like

32:27

a fat man with a big to do

32:29

what I want a walk or talk about

32:31

this like any kind thought of as then

32:33

for some reason our singular Peggy his right

32:36

ear one of the year but like what

32:38

an older model. yeah just like all we

32:40

had we were as and yes of way

32:42

less protection and but I I wasn't thinking

32:45

about how how hot the protective wires would

32:47

get so I just did up in the

32:49

in the bathtub I'm in there by myself,

32:51

walk my the naked five six year old

32:54

ass over the heaters do my little pac.

32:56

Man Thing and I decided that I

32:58

wanted to have him bites. The. Wires

33:00

on the thing and night without even

33:03

testing. At first I just put the

33:05

inside of my debts my inside of

33:07

my p whole class at why does

33:10

this. Look

33:12

at me like. Now. And

33:15

then I was so bear embarrassed. when

33:17

you're older a terrible and I looked

33:19

a little big. Man

33:21

around them in our model

33:23

wire off in a hot

33:25

sauce and then oh God.

33:27

So ashamed of myself. Off

33:30

so. I wouldn't tell my mom what I did. And.

33:32

Then for like, how was your dick for

33:34

months it. Hurt when I like. When. I

33:37

would p didn't have post com oh no he

33:39

didn't have part of it but I think it's

33:41

stabbed inside it is like i it was fucked

33:43

up and then i was like afraid or when

33:46

you would com and the pillar of them. For

33:49

what I did think that I broke my dick and I

33:51

was so sad that I broke my dick's. Same

33:55

so wouldn't tell the bodies and I never told the body

33:57

I saw until I was like I know my thirties. Ah

34:04

do that the way to wagner the park

34:06

and as. Ah,

34:12

Man make sure you check out there

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and or naughty do close the do

34:16

is grab these where you're more that

34:18

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34:20

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34:24

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34:26

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