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minutes in just a moment here

2:16

on the Wilkins Obama. To start

2:18

with story number one: Now.

2:23

Always pictured that does insurrection would

2:25

be more noble. I.

2:27

Pictured is making a stand against

2:29

Senate Majority leader Chuck Schumer. Chuck

2:31

Schumer again the highest ranking publicly

2:34

elected you in the history of

2:36

America. Not so much focused on

2:38

the anti semitism at Columbia, but

2:40

instead ensuring that New Yorkers him

2:42

for that matter. Americans cannot get

2:44

access to the little nicotine patch

2:46

that has no relationship the tobacco

2:48

and therefore no relationship to cancer

2:50

that has grabbed a hold. Of.

2:53

Young and in my case, old men across

2:55

America. If you don't know what Xin as

2:57

his, trust me your teenager does. If you

3:00

don't know about then just ask a college

3:02

dude Every one ammonites. I'd say right now

3:04

the two biggest unwritten stories in medicine that

3:06

they're just flying under the radar. You could

3:09

walk, run society and ask is that person

3:11

on this or is that person on that

3:13

are awesome pickens in an answer for most

3:15

women as yes there are no them Pick

3:18

an answer for most men is yes, they

3:20

have a little nicotine patch in their cheek.

3:22

It's. Called Xin but here's the

3:24

scene then is under a task.

3:27

There's a lawsuit in San Diego

3:29

alleging they're targeting miners with their

3:31

flavors. Again to state

3:34

what needs to be. Known

3:36

Really? No. Negative

3:39

health effects of. A

3:41

pure nicotine patch. Cancer is caused

3:44

by tobacco. The problem is the

3:46

delivery mechanism. It's drawing smoke into

3:48

your lungs. It's even, as has

3:51

been the case admittedly throughout my

3:53

life, putting a pincer tobacco in

3:56

your bottom lip. That is the

3:58

relationship to cancer. tobacco. Nicotine.

4:02

Has no relationship that we know of the

4:04

cancers. It might have a relationship to an

4:06

increase. Bit. Of high blood pressure.

4:09

But you. Know. What? Doesn't

4:12

have some negative health benefits. And.

4:14

On the whole big karma things, nicotine is

4:16

not the worst thing to ever happened Someone

4:18

Now That being said, I'm not proud, are

4:20

like to quit because I have no control.

4:22

It's got a hold of me and I

4:25

don't like being undisciplined. And here's the thing

4:27

I thought: the Inside: The Zinser action against

4:29

Us government attack on. Then but

4:31

we now owned by Philip Morris after

4:33

buying it from Swedish Match would be

4:36

much more noble. But here I am

4:38

Man born into convenience stores and gas

4:40

stations in Dallas saying i'll take a

4:42

can of peppermint six and the clerk

4:44

in every looks mangos sorry man know.

4:47

You. Know there's there's no and then I do an accent.

4:50

I did do an axe him because I like truth

4:52

and accuracy. Their out.

4:54

And. All that's left is coffee. In.

4:57

Smooth. So I did

4:59

smooth the first time out on coffee.

5:01

don't like my mouth to taste like

5:03

syrups And and you know, Like.

5:05

Bubbles in the wire. I'm over here. Taken

5:08

the knock off because that's how got a

5:10

hold of meats. And little immediately did I

5:12

realize their be knows insurrection. We're just gonna

5:14

be zombies. cellphone around asking for on soon

5:16

You have any that rogues. This is horrible.

5:19

Man, it's it's bad. It's like everything else

5:21

in America. They did it surreptitiously, the did

5:23

under the covers. Now the story is, there's

5:25

an inventory problem Iron Man that's due to

5:28

popularity. Again, I'm telling you

5:30

it's super popular papers. A demand, as

5:32

the Wall Street Journal was written up

5:34

recently is just so. I decided that

5:36

sort morse can't keep up. With

5:39

you know. Twenty. Five year

5:41

old red wing were in. Do the out

5:44

there who need a pinch after coffee and

5:46

before drinks. Maybe that's a sign of big

5:48

business, but as soon as something else going

5:50

on here, you know. That's. Where I would.

5:53

Lean. On tinfoil pat producer of the will cater.

5:55

There's something you know if you squint your

5:57

eyes. You. read between the lines

6:00

Something going on here. It's

6:02

guerrilla warfare. It's really really,

6:04

you know uncivil type of

6:06

stuff here the attack

6:08

on zen. All right Did

6:11

you know that AI says they can predict whether

6:13

or not you're liberal or conservative

6:15

based upon your face? Plus

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Donald Trump is before the

6:20

Supreme Court of the United

6:22

States to answer the question of

6:24

whether or not a president has Immunity

6:26

from criminal prosecution. Let's get into all

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6:53

president have immunity from criminal prosecution

6:55

That's the question today with the

6:57

Supreme Court of the United States

7:00

in relation to Donald Trump That's

7:03

next year on the Wilkain show streaming live

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They are the hosts of the

7:13

very popular ruthless podcast and they're

7:15

joining me now on The Wilkain

7:18

Show It is Josh Holmes comfortably

7:20

smug Michael Duncan

7:23

and John Ashbrook fellas great to have you

7:25

again on here on The Wilkain Show Well,

7:28

what an electric opener by the way,

7:31

I don't think since Letterman someone's had

7:33

an opener that good I mean, this

7:35

is just first-rate material. I can't imagine

7:37

anything. I'd rather less time I mean,

7:39

I want to talk about all of

7:41

it all the time zin Surrections NFL

7:43

drafty mix in yeah, basically our discussion

7:45

over the past week. Oh fantastic. I'm

7:48

hyped I'm

7:51

I'm I'm embarrassed John. I know you're

7:53

a fellow Zimbabwean that you're

7:56

You're a zinner Zinfandel,

7:58

I Don't know. What your flavor is

8:00

that man this is a step down for me.

8:03

I'm telling you you're out, you go to the

8:05

score and this the clerk a super sad is

8:07

like i'm sorry my man note know Peppermint I'm

8:09

like what do you guys would he have He

8:12

and I could go case I had almost walked

8:14

out yesterday. I was like I've got smooth and

8:16

and in coffee and I've done my dance with

8:18

coffee out on coffee and so I left the

8:21

source that wealth. I started to walk out of

8:23

the storm and I'll do those things and then

8:25

you know he kind of as I'm walking goes

8:27

into a problems weeks and I'm like weeks. Gimme

8:30

that kinda smith. Not likely to as amis

8:33

I know are here in Zimbabwe. I got

8:35

plenty of peppermint I can just mail a

8:37

do a happy to share body of are

8:39

allowed me to share us we we did

8:41

area a road trip a few weeks ago

8:44

and on the way back really stopping good

8:46

gas weird like that com a tour bus

8:48

type situation. Smug gets off the bus he's

8:50

done for like ten minutes and will at

8:53

what the hell's going on. He just like

8:55

abandoned us and the met him in the

8:57

in the rest facility was yes he comes

8:59

out. Is carrying two. Massive.

9:02

Like moving boxes filled

9:05

with consensus. I

9:08

buy in bulk. It does to be

9:10

really that much for the colored contacts

9:12

the owner of the store to make

9:14

zeros. Okay to going back to just

9:16

pull these things out for employees. these

9:18

boxes were like the size of like

9:20

of like a pizza box full of

9:22

the so I mean only thing is

9:24

a you don't know what the stupid

9:26

government is gonna do with this stuff

9:28

like. Are. Over there was a

9:30

day when I'm never going to take

9:32

away with that was debate. One to.

9:35

follow your yeah they're going to make visual

9:37

part illegal so i have every store in

9:39

town and cleared other than twice the size

9:42

and sit now my you know a three

9:44

year supply that so if it comes to

9:46

any nicotine delivery mechanism like i will outlast

9:48

the roaches in a nuclear attack and the

9:51

thing is super super interesting about his in

9:53

a lot of people talk about like you

9:55

know it's a great way to relax maybe

9:57

it's nicer for you've had a beer to

10:00

relax with a zen or whatever, but

10:03

in the same way that we study

10:05

the loss of economic productivity during March

10:07

Madness, I feel like we need to

10:09

study the inverse. That is,

10:11

there's nothing better than a cold brew

10:13

iced coffee in the morning with a

10:15

zen six to be super, super productive

10:17

for the first two hours of the

10:19

day. It's like cocaine. It is the

10:22

best. The best. I mean,

10:24

I guess that's the entry level. Do you all four?

10:27

I like a Celsius and two six. One

10:29

on each side and get rolling. So

10:34

that'll leave you with the shakes. All four of

10:36

you guys zen, all of you guys? Yeah.

10:41

Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

10:44

Yeah. I got my, my, my citrus right here.

10:46

Yeah. Sometimes I go back

10:48

and forth. I like a candle snooze. And

10:50

so I just sometimes when I'm playing golf, I

10:52

pop a snooze in. Here's

10:56

the thing. I'm not proud. I

10:58

want to quit every day and I want to

11:00

quit about one at 1pm. No,

11:02

no, no, no, two or 3pm. That's

11:04

when it starts because a smug, I

11:06

mean, or actually it was mexico that

11:08

said the best one of the day

11:10

is the morning after coffee. It is

11:12

the best that I never

11:14

want to give that one up. And

11:17

I like the one after dinner a lot. I

11:19

can't, I don't want to give up that one

11:21

either, but the ones in between are not enjoyment.

11:24

They're necessity. You know what I mean? I'm

11:26

not doing it because I'm excited about it.

11:28

It's because my body is saying do this

11:30

now. And then I'm on

11:32

the roller coaster and I don't like the roller coaster.

11:35

I'm on the energy roller coaster all day long. And

11:37

you know, my Fox and Friends ghost, Pete Hegsetz, also

11:40

by the way, fellas a dude, you know,

11:43

he vaped and did coffee in,

11:45

he's quit it all, which he's

11:48

totally an all in or all out personality.

11:50

But he's like, he's like, my energy is

11:52

even. And that's what I do wish that

11:54

my energy was even throughout the day because

11:56

I am on a Zen roller coaster throughout

11:58

the day. So I would like to quit. I

12:00

just don't want it the government. I don't want

12:02

it at the hands of the government's force I

12:04

just want to choose I'd rather be personally disciplined

12:10

Understandable but you know I say sit back relax

12:12

and enjoy the ride Take

12:15

it away at some point might as well enjoy

12:17

it. Well. I've got it. You're right about the

12:19

Chuck Schumer thing by the way Yeah, he like

12:21

declared full-on war against it. It was

12:23

unclear what he was gonna do about it Maybe I

12:25

figured this out with the inventory piece of it But

12:27

it seemed like it was a bro uprising in the

12:29

making You

12:34

guys are all in I think the DC area So I

12:36

don't know if this is hit you but it is a

12:38

thing in Texas And I've now spoken to some guys on

12:40

social media like now There's a real inventory issue what and

12:43

I don't know what's causing the inventory issue But

12:45

we we're we're hard up California Massachusetts

12:47

have outlawed flavors, so they're used to

12:49

living this life of poverty But

12:53

you know here in Texas. This is a new

12:56

This is a new thing and so I

12:59

guess I'll be having to buy it in New York on the weekends Let's

13:01

talk about let's talk about

13:04

presidential immunity. This is actually a hard one guys. I think

13:07

Maybe not for you, but so Today

13:10

at the Supreme Court Donald Trump's

13:12

attorneys because he's stuck in court in Manhattan We'll

13:15

be arguing for presidential immunity to

13:17

dismiss the case Jack

13:20

Smith's January 6th case against

13:22

Donald Trump the presidents should have

13:24

immunity from things done while they're

13:26

in office from

13:29

criminal prosecution And you know

13:31

the argument is if you if you don't have

13:33

immunity then the opposition power when they come in

13:35

to power can use The DOJ and then as

13:37

to go after a former president and then as

13:39

such every presidency will be

13:42

colored by Decisions through

13:44

the prism of criminal liability And

13:47

that's not how you want a president thinking or doing while

13:49

he's making decisions that are supposed to be in the best

13:51

interest of America Makes

13:53

a lot of sense it also makes

13:55

sense that yeah, there are some situations

13:57

where I don't know about presidential immunity

14:00

from prosecution. Like, this is the requirement of doing

14:02

this from a legal analysis. We can't just say,

14:04

as applied in this case to Donald Trump. You

14:06

got to think about it as

14:08

applied to any potential future president

14:11

and whatever actions he may take.

14:13

Yeah. No, I

14:15

mean, look, it is a very delicate balance,

14:17

right? And I think this has been litigated

14:20

a number of times over the years. I

14:22

think most recently during the Bush administration, as

14:25

it pertained to presidential immunity with

14:27

national security decisions. I

14:29

think very clearly the court ruled in

14:31

that case that the president does have

14:33

immunity from prosecution because they

14:36

were acting in the best interest as they

14:38

saw it of national security and the American

14:40

people. And that, I mean, that's a clear

14:42

cut. But as you laid

14:44

out, I mean, the other side of this

14:46

coin is you could expand that beyond that

14:48

to get into some real hairy territory where

14:51

people are openly conducting

14:54

criminal acts. And if there's nothing you

14:56

can do about it, that's the other

14:58

side of the coin. And so the

15:00

court here has to find a

15:02

balance. I think they

15:05

probably would have loved to avoid this question, to

15:07

be honest with you. Coming

15:09

into it, I think through the lower

15:11

court decisions and everybody else, you listen

15:13

to guys like Turley and Fox and

15:15

everything, they think that the broad sort

15:18

of definition that Trump's team is laying out

15:20

is probably not going to hold a ton

15:22

of water in that they're more

15:24

likely than not to rule against him. But

15:27

they're not just going to rule against him.

15:29

At least I don't think so because it's

15:32

precedent setting for, as you said, many presidents

15:34

to come. Yeah,

15:37

I mean, the thing is, I

15:39

think it's just like Holmes described, is there's this

15:41

wide area of where it can be argued. And

15:44

of course, the Trump legal team is trying to

15:46

expand it as much as possible. The

15:50

question really comes down to what

15:52

leeway does a president get in order

15:54

to execute their duties in office?

15:57

Because if they completely...

16:00

shut down the ability of a president to be

16:02

president, I mean, the next thing you know you

16:04

can have murder charges against Barack Obama for drone

16:06

striking a US citizen. Was the guy a terrorist?

16:08

Sure, but hey, I mean if you don't have

16:10

a judicial precedent of being able to unilaterally kill

16:13

an American as US president, then it's a murder

16:15

charge. So that's I think that's a good point

16:17

Smug, but back to Holmes's point here is I

16:19

think what we're ultimately going to get is a

16:21

clarification from the United States Supreme Court of what

16:23

qualifies as an official act of the Office of

16:26

the Presidency and that's the most important thing. I

16:28

think the wrinkle in this case is

16:30

you know that Jack Smith

16:32

case is about what Donald Trump did

16:34

after the election in challenging the election

16:36

results. Could you call that

16:39

an official act of the President

16:41

of the United States regardless of who it is?

16:43

That's going to be an open question. I think

16:45

it's going to be a hard thing for the

16:47

Trump legal team to prove it is. Yeah,

16:54

but whether or not this is

16:56

dismissed because of immunity, I mean I think the

16:58

real crux of this particular case is all centered

17:00

upon the First Amendment. You know it's interesting you

17:03

know whether or not Donald Trump was exercising free speech and

17:05

whether or not that First Amendment protected right can be punished

17:08

in a criminal court of law. You

17:11

know he wasn't calling for direct

17:13

violence. I mean the standard

17:15

Supreme Court, Brandenburg, you know direct calls

17:17

for physical violence. I don't think that

17:19

anyone can make the case that something

17:22

like that happened on January 6th. It's

17:24

funny you bring up Obama and and

17:26

droning an American citizen. I

17:29

remember that. I was on CNN back then

17:31

and that was like almost

17:33

like a little bit of an appetizer

17:35

to where we have arrived today. It

17:37

was this issue that divided politics

17:40

not cleanly on right and left, right?

17:42

Like all of a sudden it's

17:44

like does the President have the power to kill

17:46

an American citizen? And like you said, yes he

17:48

was a terrorist but without you

17:50

know does an American

17:53

citizen not have the rights of American citizenship

17:55

when abroad and has he sacrificed those by

17:57

engaging in acts of terrorism? I just was

17:59

thinking back. when you're talking about that how the

18:01

whole world is kind of scrambled now, that was one

18:04

of the first scrambles when it came to foreign

18:06

policy and Democrats and Republicans. No,

18:10

I had no question about it. And I mean, look, there's

18:12

a lot of war on terror era stuff

18:15

happening there, whether it was renditions

18:17

or Guantanamo or whatever, where the

18:20

courts actually laid out a pretty good predicate

18:22

for a whole bunch of things here. But

18:25

what they didn't ultimately decide is how

18:27

far presidential immunity goes. And

18:29

in this particular case, you

18:31

know, I mean, as you said, the Jack

18:34

Smith stuff rises and falls with how this

18:36

decision is made. It will not

18:38

speak to the facts or the fact

18:40

pattern of post election 2020. It will not

18:43

speak to a First Amendment

18:45

component. It will not speak to anything other

18:47

than this very narrow question as

18:50

to whether or not a president while serving as

18:52

president in the commission of potential

18:54

crimes is actually liable for those crimes. And,

18:57

you know, I reiterate that because I think

18:59

it's important for everybody to understand like each

19:01

one of these cases is building upon the

19:04

ability to prosecute a larger case, which

19:06

at some point, you know, we may

19:09

end up here and may not I

19:11

mean, it's been going on forever and

19:13

they may not get to it at

19:15

all. They elect President Trump, President November,

19:18

my guess is he's probably got some

19:20

ideas about where that case goes ultimately.

19:22

But that's ultimately whether or not you

19:25

think that Donald Trump is guilty of

19:27

crimes or not, we're

19:29

a long way other than New York

19:31

from getting into that conversation at all.

19:37

Let's lean into this idea of scrambled political lines

19:39

for just a moment. I didn't produce

19:42

and plan to talk to you guys about this. But

19:44

looking at the four of you guys sitting there, I

19:46

know you have a divergent set of opinions at least.

19:49

At least, yeah, you guys aren't of all

19:51

one monolithic mind. And I don't want

19:53

to do this for too long because I've done it for the last

19:55

two days on my show. Two days

19:57

ago, I had David Sacks, you know, VCS.

20:00

investor PayPal noted

20:02

dove and skeptic of the war in Ukraine on my

20:04

show to not just make his case But

20:07

I played devil's advocate. I'm sure I played it poorly. I'm

20:09

sure I failed for any Hawk Adequately

20:12

pushback on David Sachs, but

20:14

I had that on and it caused quite a bit of

20:16

reaction, you know And again, it was like

20:18

the left and the right

20:20

mad at that conversation mad at

20:22

platforming David Sachs But beyond

20:25

the platforming debate, which I find Stupid

20:29

I am kind of curious. What is it?

20:31

What is the like spectrum of opinion? They're

20:33

sitting at your table on on

20:35

the American interest in in the war in

20:37

Ukraine Well, I

20:39

think we've ranged. Yeah, I mean pretty

20:42

wide spectrum I'd say mug is probably

20:44

I would say the most soft

20:46

on terror. Yeah, I Don't

20:49

want my tax money spent the

20:51

first border. We should secure is our

20:53

own. That's basically it Yeah, I mean

20:55

I'm maybe the most aggressive Duncan we

20:58

found in the fields of libertarianism

21:00

and has Sort of

21:02

migrated closer towards a center position Well,

21:04

I mean, I think I'm I'm just

21:07

kind of pragmatic about the whole thing

21:09

I don't like the fake arguments that are being

21:11

made in the debate of oh well

21:14

We can't you know help Ukraine

21:16

defend its country because of

21:18

the national debt I don't think that or

21:20

argument actually holds water the argument on the

21:23

libertarian right I think

21:25

it's really they don't think we have

21:27

any business being there in the first

21:29

place, which is a fine fine argument

21:31

But what I also don't like from

21:33

that sort of David Sachs dove world

21:36

here is the sort of minimizing what

21:38

has actually Happened in Ukraine

21:40

and talking about it as a territorial

21:42

dispute in these old blasts in you

21:45

know The eastern part of Ukraine. It's

21:47

like we all like Got

21:49

that MIB the men in black

21:51

thing and we forgot that like

21:53

Vladimir Putin tried to march on

21:55

Kyiv He tried to topple the

21:58

government of Ukraine. So Like his. Patients

22:00

are far greater than this dispute over

22:02

four provinces and Ukraine that a Russian

22:04

speaking we should just be open. I'd

22:06

about. That's what do I ultimately think?

22:08

Like this latest aid packages to the

22:10

thing that's gonna break Latimer Poon in

22:12

them and they're going regain our territory.

22:14

I don't know, You know? I really,

22:16

I really don't know. Yet

22:20

if we we as David sex on the show

22:22

I had one point which I'm I'm glad that

22:24

you had a mind because I think it's so

22:26

important to have this range of views and republican

22:29

party Not everybody's monolithic, not everybody's big trump person,

22:31

not everybody's a big Romney person. You know like

22:33

that there's so many different points of view on

22:35

our side and it's important have a conversation which

22:38

is kind of of and of the point of

22:40

our show to be honest with yes I mean

22:42

my my own view on this. I grew up

22:44

in the eighties. Rutan. Against the Russians,

22:47

I have a hard time not rooting

22:49

when there's a chance to to take

22:51

shots at the Russians and we'll have

22:53

boots on the ground actually executing it's

22:55

I also agree with Smog. I don't

22:57

I don't understand why on earth. Were.

23:00

Not taking our own border more seriously and

23:02

I think that our own borders should have

23:04

been a big part of anything that moved

23:06

to spend money on something is happening over

23:09

and and Ukraine. But. You

23:12

know, I don't have a problem

23:14

with street Ukrainian shooting. Russians as

23:16

a half think that valleys this

23:19

idea. In I

23:21

I'd seen cast mates. To

23:24

Duncan point. I. Do have questions

23:26

about putting his ultimate ambitions. A doesn't

23:28

think he's like mister nice guy I'd

23:30

I think he is trying to reestablish

23:32

spheres of influence to give him a

23:34

buffer of protection that historically Russia has

23:36

wanted against Europe. I don't know what

23:38

that means. I don't think that means

23:41

Assad is gonna try to roll tanks

23:43

through Poland, but I I I I

23:45

recognize his ambitions exists. I just don't

23:47

know how malignant they are. in specifically

23:49

how malignant they are to the American

23:51

interest and like how it serves America

23:53

to be concerned about the future. Of

23:55

Lithuania. you know, I just I

23:58

don't think history will. It

24:00

may rhyme but like as I find a

24:02

hyperbole of he's Hitler, he's gonna roll. Gotta

24:05

stop him you know at the sedate and

24:07

lance it as find that not compelling. I

24:09

find the propaganda as you point out I

24:11

think he said it's smug. I find it.

24:14

Just. When you tree Ukraine

24:16

like you treated cove it and I

24:19

don't want to be reactionary put all

24:21

my antennas go up like is your

24:23

response to any by the goes hey

24:25

maybe we should debate you know war

24:27

if your responses with Ukrainian flag yell

24:30

set up and since for me off

24:32

the internet or Maria who's that's not

24:34

a very strong argument I don't know

24:36

says we're so ah I think it's

24:38

an ordinary. I don't want to react

24:41

to their passion. Was. At.

24:43

And I think that's entirely right I said.

24:45

I think there's an awful lot of people

24:47

fall in the category you'd is described right.

24:49

I mean, how many times can be lied

24:52

to by your government believe what they're saying

24:54

about something as significant? war and peace or

24:56

itself? I think. Any kind of

24:58

skepticism should be welcomed in anything

25:00

that involves life and death, whether

25:02

it's in this country or anything

25:05

else. I think the one piece

25:07

that everybody sort of minimizes here

25:09

is how the world fits together.

25:11

And wow, American interests aren't just

25:13

blood and treasure of the moment.

25:16

It. Is the spheres of influence around

25:18

the world like? It was hard

25:20

to mistake when Chinese President Xi

25:22

decided to make a total alliance

25:24

with food in this war. Against.

25:27

Ukraine knowing that he is

25:29

also staring at Taiwan, knowing

25:32

that he came within months

25:34

of us disastrously pulling out

25:36

of Afghanistan, giving up. A

25:39

whole bunch of resources in the

25:41

process, not only just American military

25:43

equipment, but a whole bunch of

25:45

different mining and and resources within

25:47

the region that the Chinese have

25:49

now sort of gobbled up and

25:51

began selling back to us and

25:53

all kinds of people who are

25:55

now reliant upon. Russia.

25:57

Or China or Iran.

26:00

Which clearly don't have our best interests at

26:02

heart for their economic well being, right? So

26:04

like I mean, a big big problem with

26:06

this at the outset. Of. The

26:08

Russian Ukrainian War was the

26:10

fact that Germany because some

26:13

thirteen year old. Crazy

26:15

lady had convinced the government there to

26:18

basically as if be entirely energy reliant

26:20

upon Russia, so he couldn't figure out

26:22

how he could actually be angry about

26:25

a existential threat perhaps to their borders

26:27

because they were lying on the people.

26:29

They were doing the existential bread thing

26:32

and like that begins to cascade

26:34

and I know that that's like you

26:36

know you're accused of globalism and your

26:38

have to use of when he

26:40

with. But it's important to think about

26:43

because American markets. Like cars

26:45

for example, take take Joe Biden theory

26:47

that we are eliminate the gas powered

26:49

car here in America by twenty thirty

26:51

two. That's a real proposal. They really

26:54

have that. If we were

26:56

to do that, We. Would be entirely

26:58

reliant upon Lithium minds and

27:00

the batteries manufactured in Taiwan

27:02

and China. In the rarer

27:04

that are in Afghanistan that in arrears

27:07

their Afghanistan that we just turned over

27:09

by the way or the Chinese well

27:11

and our economy your ability to get

27:13

from point a little is get aid

27:15

to be in. this country is entirely

27:17

reliant upon a foreign power the doesn't

27:19

have your best interests at heart. That's

27:22

why all this stuff matters from my

27:24

perspective and I sleep. I. Find

27:26

out what are the more compelling arguments I said

27:28

to Sachs I had Sen Mark when Molyneux my

27:30

shown he can have made that like America First

27:33

interest of like well you know what. Ukraine's.

27:35

Pretty rich in resources, minerals and we wanna

27:37

rethink what? Okay, I'm not afraid of that

27:39

argument that that at least make sense. You

27:41

know this when you're on the said. we

27:43

should have taken the oil in Iraq and

27:45

might. Make. sense so we asked the

27:48

minerals in afghanistan's yeah after twenty years of war

27:50

makes sense but i do think that you need

27:52

make that argument honestly to the american public security

27:54

needs to be offset against how much it is

27:56

can we actually do at home to we need

27:59

to be in involved in these things

28:01

because we're pretty resource rich ourselves.

28:03

So I mean, I don't

28:06

know which side that debate weighs out on,

28:08

but I'm willing to have

28:10

that debate. Just don't wave the Ukrainian flag

28:12

and yell at me that we're protecting freedom

28:14

like we did in Iraq. I think we

28:17

need to take the Ukrainian wheat

28:19

fields and make them Ukrainian zen fields and

28:22

we can solve two problems at once. We

28:24

can knock two birds out of the air

28:26

with one stone. It's a hell of

28:28

an idea. There we go. Can you make

28:30

nicotine out of wheat? Now you got me, Duncan. To

28:33

kind of tie all this together also when

28:36

Holmes mentions Afghanistan, I think the elephant in

28:38

the room is kind of, I'd say

28:41

like the trauma and the bad

28:43

taste left in the mouths of

28:45

Americans following Iraq and Afghanistan and

28:48

seeing that over 20-year experience of

28:50

foreign policy. And for a

28:52

lot of folks, the problem can be distilled down to something

28:54

as simple as we didn't have a

28:56

defined mission statement. What was the goal we

28:58

were trying to accomplish so that once we

29:00

can check that box, we know that's what

29:02

we needed to get done and it's over.

29:05

And so we have nothing – And the president is

29:07

unable to make it, which is part of the problem,

29:09

right? I mean, that's why – We've never been told

29:11

what is our purpose. Are we trying to topple

29:14

Vladimir Putin? Are we trying to take back

29:16

every inch of land? We don't

29:19

know what our money is being

29:21

spent on, so that's extremely frustrating.

29:24

And especially after we see, okay, well, we've already

29:26

made significant investments in the past and then now

29:28

the Taliban is driving around in the Humvees we

29:30

paid for. Right.

29:33

Right. Let's

29:35

keep scrambling political lines. So this is my

29:38

– I think this is my favorite artificial

29:40

intelligence story. So apparently, artificial intelligence can take

29:42

a look at your face and

29:44

then tell your politics, which I love because

29:46

that's what we're all doing anyway. We're all

29:49

looking at each other going, look at him.

29:51

He's a huge lib. Let's

29:53

see if we can do it. I had my

29:55

producers. I Have my producers. Like,

29:57

you know, I'm going to say like, John's got a

29:59

concern. The did say like a use look at

30:02

it and you can tell somebody thrive on the

30:04

suspects at me for then I would say

30:06

smog me and smug or suspect you take a

30:08

look at us as. A

30:11

success Success is this. I

30:13

built a secular producers. Assist

30:16

Assist the Ah is that was my

30:18

produces. Take some photos and now I

30:20

told them I don't want you to

30:23

like go after somebody. We're not going

30:25

after anybody. but they're not sailors. But

30:27

they're not nobody's either. So.

30:30

There's your first face and with you guys can see that.

30:33

Liberal or conservative, those listening on podcast

30:35

we're looking at like hey, I'd

30:38

say sixty year old man full

30:40

had a gray hair. ah rimless

30:42

eyeglasses and what I would say

30:44

is a. A happy

30:46

smile. And wave

30:48

of us has it that smile.

30:51

That smile. He's. Liberal. That's.

30:53

Margaret must my vote. Some.

30:56

Have I don't know. Man, it's this

30:58

is the kind of guy eat ice.

31:00

You eat. Raise. Families get

31:02

a couple of has gone through college I

31:04

got a business sectors clearly get a suit

31:06

and die on me that it's not say

31:09

such and be looking at it like Alex

31:11

I did. Dude is sort of towards the

31:13

end of his career is kind of wrap

31:15

things are getting smile on his face. that's

31:17

things have generally gone pretty rights. I have

31:19

never seen a liberal of that age smiling.

31:22

Down, I have never learn. something is

31:24

terribly wrong. They've got. they've got a

31:26

brass. They've screwed something absurd. Regretting it.

31:28

They're upset about the way that life

31:30

is treated them, even if they're very

31:32

wealthy. Yeah, and they don't do a

31:34

lot of. Also point out that that

31:36

photo has a brown background. Of

31:39

Brown. Suit and a around time

31:41

he went totally monochromatic here

31:43

which which tells me conservative

31:45

guy at a Jc Penney

31:47

photo shoot their you're gonna

31:49

go conservative. Wait

31:53

wait wait wait don't get those are great observations

31:55

and but you know what? I think I was

31:57

in costly look at the same things I was

31:59

thinking. The soil. That's. Why not? Around

32:02

with your articles, Yeah. Except

32:05

the horn brim a if you go on profit sorial,

32:07

the make more of a stable with the glasses. And

32:09

that guy. That guy's got kind of a sin rim

32:11

for a professor, right? They make us they'd be when

32:13

I'm asleep. Or I'd he has

32:15

ready for their zero today's day And

32:18

all right he is. Unless the liberal

32:20

this guy mercy on the Up Wales

32:22

sheep's clothing at the other than I

32:24

would I would have me totally bam

32:27

doing. Max

32:29

Mara got here would he got two days I

32:31

would go Thanks. For.

32:34

Ah, Yes,

32:37

the secret service well as that smug

32:39

ne say he look sad he just

32:41

called yells web As it or not

32:43

a pair of Oakley's with the cell

32:45

senior trot lifts job at. A

32:49

Time or that guy for the

32:51

audience. That guy with the for

32:53

the audience listening on audio ongoing.

32:56

Armed Sixty Six. Ah, you know,

32:59

Mostly brown black hair, little gray

33:01

in there. I'm very very slender

33:03

face. The this guy looks like

33:05

he might he might exercise. That

33:08

makes them think he's a libs.

33:10

Ah messes. Up.

33:15

About this at these Liberal or he's a

33:17

Uk conservative that's that's China where I am

33:19

not a good night so I'm assuming is

33:21

America great call I more on a unit

33:23

that looks like or it's a man of

33:25

Europe. He really looks like this British you

33:27

So I. Support

33:30

out of online or by allowing me to. Us

33:35

that about it's i think that guys are

33:37

no eternal a second I banker to me

33:39

which the again you cut to way my

33:41

me right there is there's sort of like

33:43

conservative his lungs. It's their pocketbook. But.

33:45

Like you know and everything else. Very liberal

33:48

and arms gotten his moderate amounts and you

33:50

see like center right or center left is

33:52

no such thing. It's own. live or not

33:54

Live In assists the idea. of

33:57

size ah woody got you elsa

33:59

what I'm gonna go I'll go lib this

34:02

guy is a right winger right?

34:04

I'm the wow a right

34:06

wing maybe relatively easy from the UK. I

34:10

Don't know these these guys backgrounds. So I just

34:12

know that if they're left or right here, so

34:14

we're doing you know That's the way we're going

34:16

here. Okay. I can't wait to these for these

34:18

people to start bailing in will and being like

34:20

you bastard Let's do let's

34:22

do one more don't one more up there

34:24

today. All right. Oh Well,

34:33

we that's okay bad choice we all can see

34:35

the banner in the background All

34:40

right, all right, we'll go we'll go the next one we'll go the

34:42

next one What

34:44

about this guy that was a conservative with the media research? The

34:47

previous one for everyone watching or listening was

34:50

media research center. He was conservative He looks

34:52

conservative by the way, but the

34:54

banner giveaway this guy is interesting now

34:57

this guy I'm going 53 his

35:01

face is Suffering from inflammation

35:03

like a lot of us. So meaning he's

35:05

you know, he enjoys his cocktail

35:07

and his red meat a

35:10

little bit of swollen eyes I Bet

35:14

he's fun. I think I like this guy either

35:16

way It

35:18

was big of him to take the Oakley's off for

35:21

the picture. I say conservative

35:25

Duncan I think so too. I'm not

35:28

I'm not all the way but oh gosh

35:32

I don't know. I mean Sign

35:34

it's sort of a strange pictures like a profile

35:36

picture or something I'm trying to think of the

35:39

profile of the person who would choose to make

35:41

this picture. Can I just make offer one observation?

35:43

Here it's a little bit difficult to tell because

35:45

it's so zoomed in on him But I think

35:48

if you zoom out he's wearing a jacket that

35:50

he got from work or he got from his

35:52

kids or something I work his life and say

35:54

that his wife doesn't love but he wears it

35:56

because it's his and he doesn't

35:59

care Like, well, it's my coat. What

36:01

am I supposed to wear? You know what? I

36:03

see the facial hair too. That's

36:06

what I say. Duncan, before you go, I see you

36:08

have an eye for observation. I think we're all overlooking

36:10

the obvious. Dude's got a goatee. That's a goatee, right?

36:12

Yeah, yeah. Have you seen that? I've got to

36:15

be. He's conservative. Got to be. That's

36:18

a hard no. This guy is a lefty.

36:20

It's very... Oh, how? I called it. He...

36:22

Really? I called it. The goatee

36:24

throws you off for sure. It

36:26

looks like Zielanski's a what? I'm like,

36:29

the goatee... I

36:33

can't see how really bad it is. Who's doing the goatee

36:35

then? That was very popular in the 90s. I

36:39

don't know where the goatee is popular today. Prison?

36:53

Sorry. Hi. Let's move to TikTok. Alright,

36:58

so the government has

37:01

moved to force the vestiture of

37:03

TikTok from the Chinese Communist Party, from ByteDance.

37:06

Various parties have rumored

37:08

to be interested. Maybe Microsoft. I

37:10

think people are saying Microsoft because

37:12

they just survived an antitrust suit

37:15

as it is. So they're feeling a little emboldened. Maybe

37:17

they go for TikTok. They don't have something like this

37:19

in their portfolio. Kevin O'Leary, which I

37:21

didn't know the Shark Tank money was that good. And

37:26

Steve Mnuchin, former Treasury

37:28

Secretary under Donald Trump. But the

37:30

big question is, what are you really buying?

37:32

Because I think you don't get to buy

37:34

the algorithm, right? The algorithm stays in China,

37:36

so you're buying a brand? Yeah.

37:40

Well, I assume there's a whole lot of hard assets that

37:42

come along with it. I mean, there's like some 300 people

37:44

who work there. They clearly

37:46

have some programming and whatnot for the infrastructure,

37:48

for the app in and of itself. I

37:51

mean, look, just at the outset,

37:53

well, I think we all are in agreement

37:55

on this. I'm actually my only disappointment

37:57

about this is that it took this long. to

38:00

get this done. There has been so

38:03

much evidence, so much intelligence,

38:05

so much documentation of

38:08

China manipulating algorithms in this country

38:10

to serve our kids absolute

38:13

propaganda that poisons the mind of

38:15

people throughout this country, young people

38:17

throughout this country. And

38:19

like if you get just even a whiff

38:21

of that, you think it would be the

38:23

first action that you'd want to do from

38:25

a national security standpoint. But like forever, the

38:27

argument was, oh, the kids love it. Oh,

38:30

the kids, oh, yeah, they, you know, I mean,

38:32

they love stick and forks and electric sockets too.

38:34

But like we try not to have them do

38:36

that. You know, and it's like,

38:38

it's not the app that's the problem. It's where the

38:41

data goes. And who's manipulating

38:43

that to serve content in a very

38:45

real way. And that's very clearly what

38:47

was happening. Yeah, I mean, I think

38:49

what you're buying here is priceless. It's

38:51

the network effect. It's the same reason

38:53

that, you know, even though the algorithm

38:56

changed on Twitter and the ownership changed,

38:58

you still see a significant

39:00

portion of, you know, the movers and shakers

39:02

have remained there because that network was already

39:05

in place. And everyone knows if you want

39:07

to have a discussion, you go to Twitter.

39:09

And in the same way for that short

39:11

form video, everyone already knows TikTok is the

39:13

destination. I think, honestly, Microsoft will be an

39:15

ideal place. Like, you know, if they specialize

39:17

in making office software, you know

39:20

that that data is not going

39:22

to the Chinese government. And I

39:24

don't think it'd be hard to implement an

39:27

algorithm that works just as well, if not

39:29

better, and doesn't give the data to the

39:31

Chinese government. I mean, you have engineers at

39:33

Instagram who do this daily, you know, it'd

39:35

be pretty easy to post a significant number

39:37

of them to go to the most popular

39:39

video platform. Are

39:43

any of you guys concerned that it's a

39:45

Trojan horse that now you've let the government

39:47

into the tent, the camel's

39:49

nose into the tent, next comes X,

39:51

next comes whoever else is in

39:54

on the persona non grata list in DC? I'm

39:56

really not because the primary argument

39:59

against TikTok... was that it was

40:01

controlled by the Chinese military. And some people

40:03

say, well, what about the First Amendment? Last

40:05

time I checked, First Amendment doesn't apply to

40:07

the Chinese military. And so I

40:09

think that it's a much different

40:12

argument to make that all the government should

40:14

take over X because

40:16

they just made moves on

40:18

TikTok. They've moved on TikTok because

40:20

it was Chinese. I mean, that's true.

40:23

I mean, that's the only way to get a

40:25

legislative outcome out of this. But yeah, I mean,

40:27

look, your point about government meddling around in private

40:29

businesses is one that's been going on for quite

40:31

some time. I mean, that's what the FTC does

40:33

for a living. That's a good point. And rejecting

40:35

mergers and getting involved in businesses. Hell,

40:38

we saw what the government was doing with

40:40

all the social media organizations

40:42

during COVID. So

40:45

I mean, that piece has been going on for

40:47

quite some time. But I think you're exactly right,

40:49

John. This is a totally separate case that deals

40:51

specifically with a foreign adversary and their

40:53

ability to serve content to the

40:55

most vulnerable population in America. All

41:00

right. I want to make sure you guys are completely

41:02

plugged into the news. I know you do a good job there at

41:04

Ruthless of making sure you're on top of the latest stories. But

41:07

the ever-evolving biography of Joe Biden

41:09

requires almost a daily update. So

41:12

with some patience here, I'm going to walk you

41:14

guys through. I'm going to walk

41:16

you guys through the latest update on

41:19

Joe Biden's CV. All right, two a

41:21

days, Dan. Take it away. Besides,

41:23

I used to drive an AT Wheeler. You

41:27

know what I did? That's

41:29

exactly right. All

41:32

right. He used to drive an 18

41:35

Wheeler, fellas. What

41:37

in his brain? Do you

41:39

think it's just like, hell with it. I'm going

41:41

to let all the lies fly. Or did one

41:43

time he sit in the cab of a semi

41:46

truck, and he told himself, and he's rationalized that

41:48

now, I used to drive an 18 Wheeler. It's

41:53

so often, right? It's almost every day.

41:55

The cannibal thing last week? We love

41:58

the cannibal thing. story

42:00

on Rizla's but like you know

42:02

he would talk about how he was raised

42:04

in a black church that he was raised

42:06

in a Jewish synagogue that he was Puerto

42:09

Rican or like you know I mean yes

42:12

it's every single time he

42:14

sees somebody that he thinks will

42:16

that he can identify he just says well

42:18

on that yeah I think it also has

42:20

to do with this advanced age and obvious

42:22

problems with his brain like Joe

42:25

Biden since the beginning of his political career

42:27

has been has been an unrepentant liar like

42:29

his entire career but his filter right just a

42:31

little bit better because he had more of his mental

42:34

faculties you know so I think we

42:36

all see this as people and enter that advanced

42:38

age is like oh Mima no longer has a

42:40

filter you got to be careful when you take

42:42

it to a restaurant in public and what you're

42:44

seeing now is a guy who has always been

42:46

a liar and now he has no filter so

42:48

he just says whatever comes to mind the synapses

42:51

don't fire really nice to have him in the

42:53

Oval Office yeah that's right yeah but I mean

42:55

isn't it worth celebrating that we have his first

42:57

Jewish Puerto Rican truck driver in the White House?

42:59

He survived cannibals. Jewish

43:04

Jewish Irish Puerto Rican raised in

43:06

a black church truck driver I

43:08

mean yeah how many barriers

43:10

can you bring through? To play

43:14

your greatest hit who by the way family

43:16

has been eaten by cannibals watch In

43:20

the Air Corps before the Air Force came on, he

43:23

flew those single-engine planes as reconnaissance

43:25

over war zones

43:28

he got shot down in New Guinea

43:32

and they never found the body

43:34

because it used to be there are a lot

43:36

of cannibals for real in that part of New

43:38

Guinea Didn't

43:43

this... aren't

43:46

we at odds with New Guinea now because of this? Yeah

43:51

so they're taking great exception the

43:53

absolute best part of this was

43:55

when Peter Ducey asked Karine Jean-Pierre

43:57

about it And she gave like

43:59

a very. My just how dare you? Yeah

44:01

how dare you question any of it's the

44:03

man lost his life is like know how

44:06

does not like get. Up

44:10

at some of. Your

44:14

eyes he's good now me see bad, but

44:17

she's bad in a way that makes it

44:19

good in fun, ah damn it may not

44:21

always years the latest. Are.

44:24

More fun, a hero Duncan I'd

44:26

seen. Point. Any in an

44:28

unrepentant liar who now has no control

44:30

of his faculties role. The final tape.

44:33

Massive. What would you do next? Four

44:36

more years. Or.

44:45

Something box Score! More

44:47

years pause see Red

44:50

Cross hours away Truth

44:52

Hidden services to fulfill

44:54

saying Ron Burgundy. Their

44:58

amazing we'll gather. that's why are you through

45:00

the Rob Burgundy routine? We have a bit

45:02

on the on the program where we talk

45:05

about the guy that we've affectionately called Bracket

45:07

Man which is the the guy who has

45:09

to put out the White House transcripts what

45:11

the President and as on a day to

45:13

day basis. And if you notice. On

45:15

more wideouts transcripts, there will be brackets

45:18

and the brackets are what they're trying

45:20

to decipher was set right. Sometimes you

45:22

decide in audible and yet the but

45:24

it's in brackets in brackets. It clearly

45:26

was not in audible that he said

45:28

pods there were like bracken. Man's gotta

45:30

get energized right is gonna get in

45:32

there to guide stage actor and writer.

45:34

Make sure people understand. with the Federal.

45:39

Assistance. I

45:42

ah before we say goodbye. So Davis

45:44

have. An observation?

45:46

A question. So. Ah, i'm

45:48

have watched throughout the program here

45:51

for the last thirty forty minutes

45:53

and josh and dunkin are similar

45:55

to me you use your your

45:58

desk it's had a nice reasonable

46:00

height, but you often end up with your

46:02

hands up high because you put your elbows

46:04

on the table. Smug and

46:06

John, I don't know where you got your

46:08

arms, but I've received a lot of criticism

46:11

lately for hand placement. I'm the Ricky Bobby

46:13

of podcasting. I don't know what to do,

46:15

and I end up staring at them. They're

46:17

here at eye level, and I talk, and

46:19

I stare at my hands like I'm on

46:21

the spectrum here of political, and I don't

46:23

mean the political spectrum. I

46:26

don't know. And

46:29

Duncan, and Duncan does what I ... My only

46:31

other alternative is to grab the mic and

46:34

fondle my microphone, which I see is

46:36

something that Duncan does as well. It's

46:38

a mystery with desk placement. I don't

46:40

know how Smug and John have figured it out. You

46:47

know, I'm like Johnny Bench over here. Also,

46:50

I really appreciate that Will's taking his own

46:53

career in his own hands here by asking

46:55

where Smug's hands are on the day. I

46:58

like the old stage, so let's not threaten

47:00

our ability to air this show. I

47:04

just say, I think me and Ash book

47:06

are raised in hard homes that you sit

47:09

quietly, your hands at your side, you sit

47:11

straight, you look right at the camera. Not

47:16

me. I'm a fidget. Bobby

47:18

Duncan, hold those hands up. Let me see those manly hands. What are we

47:20

looking at? Are we looking at tins, these nine and a half? Would

47:22

this get you drafted? You know that

47:24

whole thing, right? Get me the OJ block.

47:27

Get me the OJ block.

47:29

We'll find out. We'll find

47:31

out. You know, they measure these

47:33

quarterback's hands and it's a big deal. You

47:36

know, Jared Goff, small hands, panned

47:39

out for him anyway. But yeah, there's

47:41

like, I can't remember what it is, like nine and a

47:43

quarter. And I think it's from pinky to thumb. I

47:46

can't remember what it is. But yeah, if you have small

47:48

hands, you're dropping in the draft. It's

47:52

been a big problem for quarterbacks. I don't think anybody's

47:54

got it this year though, right? It wasn't like the

47:56

big thing with Kenny Pickett. And

48:00

maybe they were right. There's

48:03

always a complaint about Joe Burrow that he's got

48:05

small hands, but it seems to work out for

48:07

him. It didn't work out last year. All

48:10

right. Do

48:14

me a favor is the last thing. I'm going to review this

48:16

here in about five minutes as my final segment here on the

48:18

Wheel of Kitchen. I'm going to talk

48:20

about the NFL Draft and I'm going to talk about, I'm

48:22

going to no longer say who recommended this to me, but

48:25

I watched this show on, it's

48:27

in the UK, called Naked Attraction.

48:30

Has anybody heard of it? I

48:33

don't think so, but it sounds compelling. Yeah,

48:37

I think you guys should do a review and

48:39

next time we're together, I want your thoughts. They

48:42

take a dating contestant, they put six

48:44

people in a box, the

48:47

slide comes up, they first

48:49

reveal the bottom half and

48:52

I'm talking no blurs. We'll

48:55

deal. You make

48:57

your judgments and you boot one person from the

48:59

panel of six based upon your judgment of the

49:01

bottom half. Then they reveal up

49:04

to the neck, hold

49:06

another round of judgment, boot another person, then

49:08

you get to see the face, then

49:10

you get to talk. I know it

49:12

sounds like complete trash because it is complete

49:14

trash, but there

49:17

is some fascinating things to take away from this

49:19

as well. You only have to do an episode

49:21

or two, but you will come away with some

49:23

new thoughts about humanity. That's one of

49:25

my favorite things. You will have interesting

49:27

original thoughts about humanity. It

49:30

sounds like the first authentic dating show I've ever

49:32

heard of. I

49:38

love it. We'll do that for

49:40

you Will, we'll get on that. All

49:43

right, do one or two episodes. We'll talk about

49:45

it next time when we have a cross between

49:47

Ruthless and The Will Kane Show, which I'm loving.

49:51

Thank you guys so much. You're the best.

49:53

Thanks bud. Thanks so much. See you in

49:55

the next episode. Alright,

50:01

there they go. Ruthless Podcasts, make sure

50:03

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50:06

Apple, Spotify, and subscribe to

50:08

Ruthless. They have fun, they break

50:10

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50:12

they're dudes, and I'm staring at my hands once

50:14

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50:17

highs and the lows, NFL Draft

50:20

and Naked Attraction, next on The

50:22

Wheel Cane Show. Alright,

50:27

here we go. Ignite

50:30

big weekend in entertainment. High

50:32

and low. NFL Draft, first round tonight.

50:34

Second and third round, I believe it's

50:36

still both rounds on Friday night, and

50:38

then four through seven on Saturday. And

50:40

when they take a break, the guys

50:43

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50:45

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50:47

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50:49

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50:51

Please hit subscribe, leave

50:53

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50:56

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50:59

it is probably my favorite event

51:01

of the year. I mean, honestly, I like

51:03

it more than the Super Bowl. It is

51:05

the NFL Draft. 32 teams, 32 fan

51:08

bases, completely filled with hope. It's

51:11

like shopping for men. And

51:14

I, for one, do my research on the

51:16

biggest sales, the

51:18

best trends in fashion when it comes to

51:20

the NFL Draft. I'm talking about I do

51:22

every mock draft, every mock draft simulator. I

51:25

read, it was last weekend, I read 300

51:27

player profile breakdowns

51:29

by Dane Bruegler. I read

51:31

his other publication, The

51:33

Beast, which is, it's everybody,

51:35

everybody in the draft. Because

51:38

then I formulate exactly who I want the

51:40

Cowboys to get. I know the positions that

51:42

they need, by the way, offensive line, running

51:45

back, defensive tackle, linebacker. And you got

51:47

to figure it out. It's like playing a puzzle. It's a game of

51:49

how can I feel these needs at this rounds in

51:51

the draft and so forth. And it's

51:53

just so much fun. I mean, I don't know. I don't know how

51:55

to explain it. And by the way, am I alone? Let

51:58

me go to the control. I'm like to the. to

52:00

the militia crew. Young

52:04

James, Establishment James, Two Days

52:06

Dan, Tin Foil Pat. You

52:08

guys like the draft as well, right? Are you

52:10

guys all in on it? Absolutely. 100%. Yeah. Okay.

52:16

Like it's, I mean, would you say this? This is

52:18

fair, right? Probably.

52:21

I don't want to put it exactly

52:23

on par. How about this? Not

52:25

as good as a game where your

52:27

team is playing, but better than a

52:29

game where your team is not

52:32

playing. I mean, I'd rather it than a

52:34

random NFL game,

52:36

a random NBA game. I

52:38

wouldn't like it better than the Mavericks

52:40

playing. I agree. I mean,

52:43

it brings an element. It gives you hope. It

52:45

gives you, you know, you look forward to something.

52:48

You know, as a Packer fan, we haven't had much luck,

52:50

which is okay. But yeah, I totally agree

52:52

with you. I don't know what he said, James. Yeah.

52:55

I mean, I think it's probably better

52:58

than say like a mid-August regular

53:00

season baseball game or a mid-season

53:02

basketball game. Maybe not better than

53:04

a Sunday, but if

53:07

it's a Sunday, that doesn't matter. I'll take the draft because there's

53:09

meaning to it. I

53:12

agree. All right, James, you're a Pats fan. Make it quick.

53:14

Who do you want? Like, what are you going to be

53:17

excited about tonight? What do you want? Either Drake May or

53:19

they get just a stupid hall of draft picks for going

53:21

back a few picks. I don't know about Drake May, man.

53:23

Okay. Quarterback or trade

53:26

back and get a big hall. All right,

53:28

Packers fan, two days, Dan. Offensive linemen need

53:30

it. Got to protect Jordan Love. Let's go.

53:33

Go Pack, go.

53:35

Yeah. And that's

53:37

not as fun. Like that's where I am as a

53:39

Cowboys fan. I want an offensive lineman as well. I

53:42

need it. We have to have an offensive lineman. Those

53:44

drafts aren't quite as fun, like when you're in the

53:46

market for a receiver or a quarterback. But here's what

53:48

I look for tonight. It's interesting. Everybody's projecting four quarterbacks

53:50

in the top 10. Jay Glazer of Fox Sports was

53:52

here on the Wil Kane Show saying, not so sure,

53:55

not so sure. The JJ McCarthy

53:58

is going to have this big market with There's

54:00

a run on him pushing him as

54:02

the fourth quarterback into the top ten

54:04

But you're guaranteed to see Caleb Williams

54:06

of USC Drake May of North Carolina

54:08

and Jayden Daniels of LSU Probably going

54:10

within the top five picks what

54:12

was fascinating though whether or not JJ McCarthy makes

54:15

his way into the top ten He probably doesn't

54:17

fall JJ McCarthy of Michigan He probably doesn't fall

54:19

below 11 where the Vikings

54:21

are picking and even at that What's

54:24

fascinating is you may then see and this will

54:27

help two days Dan and myself Get

54:29

the offensive lineman we might want in the 20s

54:33

Is it I am increasingly believing that

54:35

Michael Pinnocks is gonna go in the top 15?

54:38

So that's five quarterbacks in the top 15

54:41

and at that point It's gonna put a lot of

54:43

pressure on every other team that wants a quarterback to

54:45

jump up and get Bo Nicks and maybe they Will

54:47

maybe they won't but the Broncos are reportedly interested in

54:49

Bo Nicks of Oregon. So it's

54:51

possible There's a run

54:54

of six quarterbacks in the first

54:56

20 picks Which would

54:58

be perfect for the Cowboys perfect for the

55:00

Packers and pushing offensive lineman if

55:02

you're like the Bills and you want a wide receiver

55:04

or Any defensive

55:07

player down to teams that need them

55:09

and I kind of think that's what's gonna happen tonight

55:11

I mean often you'll see some quarterbacks slide But I

55:14

don't know how this feeling we're gonna

55:16

get five and maybe six quarterbacks really

55:19

pushing guys that you want Deeper

55:21

down into the draft either

55:23

way We

55:26

Will be will be all over

55:28

it next week on the Wilkain show you can

55:30

check out K-9 sports My Friday guest will be

55:32

Craig Carton We are gonna record before the draft

55:34

later this evening But we'll break down what teams

55:36

could do in the best players on the Friday

55:38

edition K-9 sports with You

55:41

know famed New York sports broadcaster

55:44

Chris Carton. All right on the other

55:46

end of the spectrum the lows As

55:49

I mentioned naked attraction, I just

55:51

told the guys of Ruthless exactly how this dating show works

55:53

Listen to me. I am NOT don't

55:55

go home and tell your wife or your husband will

55:57

said watch this I did not tell you to watch

55:59

this It is not, I

56:02

mean, it's not pornography. It's also not

56:04

something you should feel comfortable watching on

56:06

an airplane at all. Okay?

56:09

You're gonna see everything. Everything.

56:13

Okay? And yeah, you're

56:15

gonna be like, what is this trash?

56:19

But my favorite thing about

56:21

any piece of entertainment is if it makes

56:23

me think in some way about something. And

56:25

my favorite thing is thinking about people, humanity.

56:29

And here is the redeem –

56:31

I'm gonna say this ahead of time because the guys, Tinfoil

56:34

Pat, Young Establishment James, and

56:37

Two A Days Dan are gonna watch – they've promised to

56:39

at least watch an episode or two this weekend. Here's

56:42

what you come away with, okay? Here's the redeeming

56:45

thing. People are

56:47

not very pretty. They're just

56:49

not. Now, you

56:51

could say, well, what kind of people would go on this? And

56:53

you're right, largely the unemployed or the – those

56:56

that are unconcerned with unemployment. It's

56:58

also the UK. I mean, not

57:01

a bastion of fitness. But

57:05

what the redeeming part of it is

57:07

is that Instagram and

57:09

social media has made you think

57:12

that everybody out there is perfect. It

57:14

really – through

57:17

filters and poses and – and

57:20

I think there's a lot – for example, I

57:22

think this is the thing. I think

57:25

that sixes have lost the ability to find

57:27

sixes because Instagram has made sixes think

57:29

that the whole market is full of nines and

57:31

tens. And you can

57:33

never settle, therefore, for

57:35

a fellow six. And what

57:37

you realize in watching this show, and you see

57:39

everything about people, and they talk about it, and

57:42

they break down physical attributes.

57:45

There ain't too many nines and tens floating around out

57:47

there, not when you take out the filters and mess

57:49

up the pose. And all of

57:51

a sudden, you start realizing, like, it kind of is

57:53

– I don't know. Like, we should

57:55

all walk around the world with a little more self-confidence

57:58

because you can't be comparing yourself. to

58:00

the Instagram models and the fitness experts and

58:02

the the fraud

58:04

of it all. It's not real. And

58:07

I don't know that's the one thing I do like about this. It's

58:09

so real like oh that's

58:11

what people look like. It's not

58:13

very good but it's real. And

58:15

it is fascinating how people will

58:18

I mean the whole game of

58:20

it the fun is what would you do you know like

58:22

that's what I do in any of these shows in Love

58:25

is Blind or you know I don't watch The Bachelor but

58:27

that would be the fun of it I would guess like

58:29

no pick Cheryl don't

58:31

pick Cindy you

58:33

know you're like oh I'd eliminate this

58:36

one or I choose it we're all doing that and so you

58:38

kind of do that and you

58:40

think it's obvious in your brain but what's fascinating

58:42

is the curveball that the contestant will throw you

58:44

you know by the way obesity

58:47

is an interesting you know curveball

58:49

on the entire thing like the

58:52

obese contestants do get eliminated but they don't get

58:54

eliminated first because I think everybody's doing it well

58:56

I can't do that when I can't eliminate

58:59

her first because what does that make me look like

59:01

and there's a few other lame ducks in the panels

59:04

you know you can pick them off they'll never make

59:06

the finals so you keep that around a virtue signal

59:08

and then you know it all washes out in the

59:10

end. But what is

59:12

surprising is the way the contestants do choose

59:15

sometimes they don't go with the obvious ones

59:17

that I think well clearly blue is

59:20

the number one draft

59:22

pick and they don't for

59:25

their own peculiar subjective

59:28

taste oriented human

59:31

reasons I don't know there's

59:33

something about that trust me there's like 10

59:35

seasons of it ain't good enough that I'm burning through the

59:38

seasons but you watch one you're like kind

59:40

of fascinating the way people

59:42

behave kind of fascinating the way

59:45

people really are where they really

59:47

look that's my best

59:50

to make something that is trash redeeming

59:53

naked attraction that's going to do it for me

59:55

today here on the Wilkane show go enjoy the

59:57

NFL draft enjoy your weekend enjoy the Wilkane show

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