Chris and Lex speak with Ryan Natoli and Katy Yeiser of The Onion’s true crime parody podcast, A Very Fatal Murder. They discuss the making of the show and what inspired it, as well as the shift from The Onion’s usual short-form storytelling structure to a long-form narrative style. Katy also describes the formation of the show's writers' room, while Ryan provides surprising facts about the casting and recording process.

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