In this episode of the X OVERLAND Podcast, Clay Croft sits down with his son Cyrus at the X OVERLAND Ranch to reflect on one of the most demanding stretches of the Milestones Expedition: crossing West Africa.

From preparing with medical and SERE-style training to navigating fuel shortages, cash problems, language barriers, visa uncertainty, and more than 180 checkpoints in Nigeria alone, Clay and Cyrus break down what it really took to keep the team and trucks moving across the continent. They discuss the difference between fear and preparation, the exhaustion of constant problem-solving, and the street smarts that only come from experience.

They also share stories from difficult borders, including their tense experience in the Democratic Republic of Congo, and explain why West Africa is both incredibly challenging and absolutely worth experiencing.

For anyone curious about international overlanding, expedition logistics, or what it takes to drive across Africa, this conversation offers an honest look at adventure when the stakes are high and the unknowns are constant.