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Ardennes Classics Recap | THEMOVE Femmes

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Ardennes Classics Recap | THEMOVE Femmes

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0:00

If you're going to post up, make

0:02

totally completely sure that you

0:04

are winning. Don't let somebody

0:06

come in because it's the worst, right? You got your hands

0:09

up here and you're looking down and they're literally just riding

0:11

underneath you. I watched it, yes,

0:13

so many times and she looks right. And

0:15

she was the fastest sprinter on paper. Weibas

0:17

wins that sprint. She was the fastest rider

0:19

in this select group. And she

0:21

looked right and she just didn't realize the

0:23

boss being the boss. She is the goat.

0:25

She is is just like, I got you. And

0:28

she goes by and basically

0:31

we've been since David after the race

0:34

after following like a lot of disappointments here, which

0:36

is 100% understandable. She said that she

0:38

ate an idiot sandwich. All

0:45

right, everybody, welcome back to the

0:47

Move podcast, talking about the Liège

0:49

Bastogne Liège Femme today. And

0:52

if you're a fan of actual bike racing.

0:56

You would have loved it because I watched both races and look,

0:58

I think Tade Poulker-Char is one of the best to ever race

1:00

a bike. But come on, that

1:02

was not a race. That was like chess and

1:05

checkers. I don't know what. But

1:08

the women's race, as soon

1:10

as Peacock clicked it on, I was like, okay, this, it was

1:12

a race, it was on. We're going to get into all that

1:14

action. I am joined by Mari Holden. Mari,

1:18

how are you? I never know where you are. I'm

1:20

looking at you. But where now? Where

1:23

now? Where now? What? I'm in

1:25

Menlo Park. I was at Sea Otter. Now I'm

1:27

at Menlo Park. Are

1:29

you at the Rosewood there? I

1:32

am. This

1:36

is just... Somebody

1:41

has to do it. I know I was given

1:43

George some grief on the last show because he

1:45

actually called people, somebody else, our group of people,

1:47

Bougie. And I'm like, excuse me. You

1:50

just called somebody Bouzy? That's rich. You're

1:53

the Bougie one, Mari. How do

1:55

we get a Rosewood sponsor shot? I was actually hanging

1:57

out with George last week too in Scottsdale. I'm

2:00

just out on that too. Also

2:03

joined by Al, aka, well,

2:05

she just goes by Ali. She's our boss. She

2:08

just got back from – well, y'all were both at

2:10

Sea Otter, and I was so curious about what even

2:12

that is all about. But maybe at the end of

2:14

the show we can talk about it. But I do have a question,

2:17

Ali. What's – looks like you got a little something

2:19

going on there with the – what happened to your

2:21

arm or your shoulder? Yeah,

2:23

I got some KT tape on my arm.

2:27

I actually got this brought up a lot when I was at Sea Otter. I

2:29

don't know why. I have no idea why

2:32

anybody would ask. Because when

2:34

I got hit by that truck, which, you know,

2:36

you told your show before my parents knew that I

2:38

got hit by the truck, but

2:40

I dislocated my shoulder and tore my labrum, and

2:42

it spontaneously dislocated. So this KT tape is helping

2:44

me – my shoulders stay in socket when I'm

2:46

riding my bike, so hopefully I don't need surgery.

2:51

But I'm calling in here from Carmel Valley. So

2:53

I have this beautiful view of vineyards in the

2:55

San Lucia Highlands. So I want to

2:57

be as bougie as Mari right now because it

2:59

is just 75 degrees perfect, not a cloud in

3:01

the sky, and there's some good activities coming my way.

3:04

Okay, good. Good. Well, let's

3:06

talk about – actually, and

3:09

for the audience, we are also going to

3:12

talk – let's just sum this up and

3:14

call it really the week of the Ardennes

3:17

reminder. The Ardennes are

3:19

this part of Belgium. We

3:21

did touch on this in the min show because

3:24

I just think – I'm always so curious about

3:26

how Belgium is just so different, right? You've got

3:28

the

3:30

Flemish part, which obviously has tour Flanders

3:32

and Ghent Wevelgeb and things like that.

3:34

And then you have the Ardennes, which

3:36

is – if you watch it on

3:38

TV, is a beautiful part of the world.

3:40

It's very hilly, very green, rose,

3:43

twisty turny, undulating, very, very demanding.

3:47

But Amstel Gold Race, which is obviously not

3:49

Belgium, is in Holland, is just across the

3:51

border. It's technically still sort of part of

3:53

the Ardennes, so we're going to loop all

3:55

this – lump all

3:57

this together, Liège, Flesch-Roulon. uh,

4:00

and am so gold race. Uh, but let's

4:02

first start with Liège and

4:04

I'll just say like, I, I. Uh,

4:08

but it may not be a popular statement, but I

4:10

was just, again, I think Todd

4:12

is great that that race was boring. I

4:14

was like, all right, I'm going to go to the gym. This

4:17

guy's time traveling away. This is lame. And

4:19

then I flicked on the women's race as soon as

4:21

it came on. And it was so exciting. Like, you

4:23

know, you just didn't know, right? You had the break

4:25

with the break. Come back. Um,

4:28

not to mention the eventual

4:30

winner who decided at a roundabout to

4:32

go through basically a

4:35

bus stop, even that was exciting. I

4:37

mean, it was just the dynamic of women's cycling

4:39

right now is just totally different than the men's.

4:42

And it's, look, I'll

4:44

just say it. It's better racing. It

4:46

is straight up. It

4:49

was incredible. Right. It's got a lot of, I

4:51

was just going to say, it's one of the things that a lot

4:54

of the people at Seattle were coming up to me and

4:56

talking about was just how excited they are

4:58

to watch the women's racing. And I

5:01

honestly felt like, you know, you're a right lamp. We

5:03

can't come into the race until so late into

5:05

the race because of the men's. But if we

5:07

had had them going head to head, I think that

5:10

more people would have switched over to the women's

5:12

race and then watching that because it was so exciting.

5:14

I mean, you never know what's going to happen

5:17

and they keep it. It's, it's

5:19

just such a fun thing to watch right now. It

5:23

was just stunning to turn it on and

5:25

see this break up the road. These roads

5:27

are really hard. So you're looking

5:29

at Liége-Bistône, Liége, 10 climbs, 153 kilometers long.

5:35

And there was a breakaway up the road with some

5:37

contenders. And there was some guesses,

5:39

like they were a couple minutes ahead of the peloton

5:42

within 30 km to go. And you're thinking, you know,

5:44

how hard those hills are in Lansing? You're talking about

5:46

it's really twisty. It was wet. It's

5:48

cold. And there wasn't

5:50

a lot of like organization in the peloton

5:53

to chase and people are looking at SD

5:55

works because they were usually

5:57

the bosses there and there

5:59

was some pursuers. And I

6:01

actually thought little trek did a really good job of

6:03

kind of owning control Bringing

6:05

back the break ish, but always

6:09

I mean tune into this race, but it was

6:11

it was fantastic I

6:14

do want to talk about some of like what happened but Like

6:18

when you when you tuned in there's a break of

6:20

free up the road So you

6:22

have Grace Brown which were a big fan

6:24

of we've had talked about her at the Tour

6:26

de France from a VEX whip She's the time trialist

6:28

I really like her style of racing because she's kind

6:31

of a bulldozer a rider and that's how I ride

6:33

like Lance has definitely critiqued me on my located

6:35

and seated just grinder and She's

6:39

second at the World Championships in

6:41

the time trial and she just

6:43

goes but she's not like technically a

6:45

climber or you know, but she's a You

6:47

know this time trialist and she's up the road with

6:50

Elise Shabby From Canyon

6:52

SRAM who I have some fun facts about

6:55

She competed in the 2012 Summer Olympics

6:58

in the slalom canoe

7:02

Interesting uh-huh that one got me I

7:04

didn't I know a lot about like

7:06

I didn't know that there

7:08

was a slalom canoe Yes, and

7:11

then she was also joined by a breakaway mate,

7:13

which we don't always see yes up there all

7:16

the time But by Kim a cat so who's

7:18

a kiwi rider who this is only her like

7:20

second year racing in the world to her And

7:24

she has the funniest story she worked it

7:27

so she was a triathlete living Trying

7:30

to get into Europe to race bikes. So she

7:32

was a recovering triathlete will say, you know Lance and I

7:34

have been there as well and But

7:36

she worked as a salmon fishing farm

7:38

where she would like fillet the fish like

7:41

fish them fillet them and then serve them She

7:44

was a sous chef. She was worked at

7:46

Domino's. She was a lifeguard a landscaper and

7:48

her brother Her brother built

7:50

her a bike in she and

7:52

she goes to Europe and gets a contract

7:54

at Yumbo Bismuth bike like Lisa bike last

7:56

year they severed that contract. She signed for

7:58

EF this year and make

8:00

fun of triathletes all you want. You guys

8:02

saw her bunny hop that curb and just

8:04

go straight when Grace Brown almost crashed. I

8:06

mean this woman, I thought

8:09

she had a heck of a race. I

8:11

don't know how somebody, I mean, Demi

8:13

Vollern got her foot out immediately. I thought that

8:15

was a pro move, but I

8:17

was like, oh shoot, we're about to see a

8:19

yard sale here. And they all figured it out,

8:21

right? That's now, you always have

8:24

to be a little lucky. Who knows when you

8:26

decide that you have

8:28

to go straight in a corner. You

8:30

don't know what's going to be on the, when the road ends,

8:32

but they were lucky to be able to

8:35

just, I mean, literally, I

8:37

basically rode through the bus stop, over the grass through the

8:39

bus stop. And she came

8:41

back and. But at that point,

8:43

I mean, like Grace had been working so

8:45

hard because there was, she came from the

8:48

break from before that. So I mean, there

8:50

was a break of about nine prior to

8:52

the, getting down to the three time trial,

8:54

it's off the front. So I mean, she

8:56

had been really driving it early and,

8:59

you know, then to see that happen, you're like,

9:01

Oh no, her race is over. Like, I mean,

9:03

at that point I just thought there was no

9:06

way, you know, so watching her

9:08

be able to come back and do what she

9:10

did, it was just like something I would

9:13

have never expected. Well, y'all know the sport

9:15

a million times better than me, but if

9:18

I'm just, if I just flew in and

9:20

didn't know anything, right? This is what I've

9:22

heard, right? Time trial world champion in the

9:25

break all day wins

9:27

a small bunch friend, like technically

9:29

second, second, second at world championships.

9:33

Yep. Okay. But, but a time

9:35

trial list, right? So all of these things I'm like, wait,

9:37

how did, how did the last one

9:39

happen? That's impressive. Well,

9:41

and then when you watch this friend, I mean, I

9:44

know we're getting to the very end of the race,

9:46

but when you watch this friend and you saw it

9:48

going with Longo Bernini and it just looked like she

9:50

was going to get it and Grace Brown sat down

9:52

and then she got back out of the saddle

9:54

again and reaccelerated. You know, I watched it

9:56

a couple of times cause I thought, well,

9:58

maybe she had like. I got sat

10:00

down to shift and then come back out

10:03

again and got more speed from shifting or

10:05

something. But she came by with

10:07

such power and I just, I mean, the whole

10:09

thing just kind of blew me away the speed

10:11

that she passed everyone by. Yeah,

10:14

and that's like, she was seated and basically in her

10:16

5311 and then just had one last

10:19

snap. And I think where the race kind

10:22

of started where the brake was up

10:24

the road and the brake was basically

10:26

staying away and what happened is our

10:28

favorite Lamborghini, which I thought she had

10:31

this, even though we can talk about

10:33

Canyon's Rim. Your favorite. No,

10:36

I have a lot of favorites. We don't want to play favorites.

10:39

I'm allowed to do whatever I want. And they're all

10:41

my favorites, but they're all my favorites. But

10:45

what I noticed is the brake was kind of

10:47

dangling. They're working really well together,

10:49

like cohesively. And the peloton

10:51

was approaching quite quickly, but it was a very diminished

10:53

peloton by this point because it's on the last

10:55

climb. It's getting hard. People are tired.

10:57

It's also very cold. So around like

10:59

13.7 K to go, you're looking it

11:01

up. And that's where I said that

11:03

little trek definitely set it up and

11:06

Lamborghini, Elisa Longo, Bregini attacks and

11:08

Amy didn't like, she kind of faltered a little bit

11:10

and Cassie is there, but Cassie has a teammate up

11:12

there, you know, so Amy was stuck, like

11:14

trying to close these gaps and I was like, Oh,

11:16

she doesn't look great. Um, and,

11:19

and so then the group kind of comes and then they're

11:21

playing and Canyon's Rim had two riders

11:24

there with Elisa Shabe and Cassie and Nio

11:26

Doma. Um, and I don't know,

11:28

Mari, you can tell me on the tactics of

11:30

that, but I didn't feel like Canyon went full

11:32

send to win because they had the numbers and

11:34

I think they might have made a tactical error

11:36

in there that they didn't fully commit

11:39

to do like the two by two. It

11:41

didn't, it to me, it looked like they

11:44

didn't like fully commit to that, but at the same

11:46

time their attacks, no matter how they were doing, was

11:48

almost keeping it at speed. So

11:50

I was surprised that Boulring didn't try

11:52

and take advantage of the fact that,

11:55

uh, Elisa Longo-Borgini was

11:57

like chasing everything, you know, it's

11:59

cause And she closed the gap to them all

12:01

the time. The other two girls that had come on

12:03

weren't doing anything. And I mean, I would have thought

12:05

that would be an opportunity for them too, to kind

12:07

of make an attack because, you

12:10

know, Canyon was going and going, but if one of them

12:12

had gone, then who's going to chase them? Right?

12:15

Yeah. I would question Damien on that.

12:18

Like, because when, um, when Elisa went, Damien kind of

12:20

sat up and looks at Cassia, who we'll talk about

12:22

later, who just won flesh alone. Um,

12:24

amazing. And, but she kind of looks

12:26

up at her, but you have Elise Shabe up there.

12:29

And so Cassia for once did

12:31

not like pull through there. And Damien's like, Oh,

12:34

you always, you know, go Cassia, like always drives

12:36

it. And then she was like, Oh shoot. And

12:38

I felt like she, Damien Vollering would be the

12:40

only SC work. So everybody where onesies in there,

12:42

except Canyon, SRAM, and they didn't even get on

12:44

the podium. And when long

12:46

ago, Borgini either got word or looked

12:48

around and saw, I mean, she just went straight

12:51

through the other. She's like, Oh my God, where'd that go? I

12:53

guess it's it. I got to go. I

12:55

love. Yeah. I know I love

12:57

her so much, but this is the Lamborghini style. She just goes

12:59

full set and like, she just commits. She goes and I actually

13:01

coming down to that sprint, I thought she had it. I thought

13:03

she was going to win. I was,

13:06

I mean, again, going back to what I just

13:08

said, I mean, on paper, she

13:10

wins that sprint nine times out of 10. Yeah.

13:14

Even watching, you

13:16

know, like, who

13:18

would have expected great Brown to come

13:21

from behind so far and accelerate that

13:23

fast? You know, when

13:25

you're looking back at Grace Brown, she's Australian, like

13:27

I said, definitely national champion in the time trial,

13:29

second at world champions and championships of the time trial.

13:31

And she's actually had a really bad spring. Like we

13:33

know how strong she is. We've seen her perform

13:36

so well throughout the year, but you look at what

13:38

she's done this year and I can feel it's been

13:40

very disappointing for her. When we were

13:42

looking at like 38, 40, 50th

13:44

places, like she hasn't been anywhere, but he

13:47

has gotten second at the age, the stone, the

13:49

age before. And so I

13:51

think it's just like how arduous that courses and

13:53

how her like a torque and

13:55

power and just resilience really power her

13:58

there, which means I think she's. to

14:00

something really strong at the Olympics. So I think we might need

14:02

to look for at the time throughout the Olympics. Um,

14:06

you know, and she just to let you know where

14:08

Grace Brown comes from, she is a cross country runner.

14:11

Um, and she got a bunch of stress fractures. So

14:13

she started racing a bike and they asked her if

14:15

this was her biggest win of her career. And I

14:18

think I could tell she was kind of like,

14:20

is it second at world championships or she just eyeing Paris right

14:22

now in that time trial? I mean,

14:24

keep in mind she is Australian, but she

14:26

races for a French team. Yep. The

14:29

summer Olympics are in Paris. I'd

14:31

say you're wearing right

14:33

to the Australian national team Jersey, but you're

14:36

paid by Francis de Jue. It's

14:39

that sets up nicely.

14:41

Yeah, I thought

14:43

it was just a stellar finish, but also it

14:45

was very slippery coming in. Like we were talking

14:47

about crushing, like going through the bus stop and

14:49

things like that coming into the finish. It was,

14:52

um, I thought anybody's race and Grace Brown was

14:55

not the one I was going to pick in that moment, but

14:57

kudos to her. I wouldn't have said it as anybody's

15:00

race at that point. I would have said you

15:02

would think it was like Lamborghini's race at

15:05

that moment. Yeah. Y'all know a lot more than me, but I

15:07

would have put my hand in a fire for that one. Y'all

15:11

on was curious about, or had

15:13

some thoughts on Demi Bowering. Obviously

15:17

she dominated the Ardennes last year. She was

15:19

a factor in this race today. I

15:22

think he, I mean, he, he, he knows

15:25

a lot about all kinds of cycling, including,

15:27

uh, women's cycling. He thinks he's just, there's

15:29

just something off this. And if you read

15:31

what we all read in the press, potentially

15:34

leaving the team or looking for other offers,

15:36

that's a distraction. We all know that. Um,

15:39

but he, he just feels like something's amiss

15:42

with her. Okay.

15:45

Go ahead. Go ahead, Mari. No, I

15:47

was just gonna agree. Something's a little bit

15:49

off. I think possibly they came into the

15:51

year thinking she wants to peak a little

15:53

later, but then with all the stress and

15:56

emotional stuff that goes on with all this stuff

15:58

that's coming out in the press. and with

16:00

her team, I can imagine it's taking a

16:02

huge toll on her because even from our

16:04

conversations, I felt like she's a

16:07

emotional kind of person

16:09

or that's just kind of the vibe

16:11

I got. Maybe I'm totally wrong, but

16:14

I feel like that probably weighs on her.

16:16

And then when you come into something thinking

16:18

you're going to peak later on, it's easy

16:20

to say before that you are not going

16:23

to be upset about not getting the results

16:25

you want early on. But if you're not

16:27

getting the results you're used to seeing, it

16:29

can mess with your head. So I mean,

16:31

hopefully she's not letting it mess with her

16:33

head too much in that sense so that

16:36

she's ready for the Olympics and for the

16:38

tour. Yeah, I

16:40

think that I'll go with you, Mari, on that.

16:42

And I mean, I'm sure Yohan agrees that she

16:44

is looking for a later peak. And this

16:47

could be very challenging and also the team drama.

16:49

We're pretty sure, I mean, we're going to guess she's

16:51

going with UAE for over a

16:53

million dollars. I think she's

16:55

still supportive of the team and she loves her riders. Like

16:57

she's a good friend with all her teammates

17:00

and that's really hard to have all that attention

17:02

on it. And she is a rider

17:04

that you've seen her and we love it because she rides with

17:06

her dog in the backpack and things. So she is an

17:09

emotional rider that wants to be having fun.

17:11

And she didn't look great to me

17:13

today, but she got third.

17:16

So Kanyan Srims off the podium. So she still

17:18

had that snap, but she didn't have her normal

17:20

calm. But I could see her. She's really

17:23

big into meditation and yoga and camping in

17:25

the Alps with her partner and her dogs.

17:27

And if I could see her kind of

17:29

come in and try to regain composure and for

17:32

her to snap around, I

17:35

thought it was an impressive finish for her. She was

17:37

alone. She had a lot of work to do and

17:39

she's not as punchy as a Lamborghini. Well,

17:41

I know that. Well, I can look good

17:43

at flesh too. I think maybe she kind

17:46

of underestimated Kachin the finish at

17:48

flesh, but she obviously rode stronger

17:50

there than she had been in

17:52

the prior races. So things are coming

17:54

up. But I mean, I

17:57

think that that like what happens

17:59

when you're. used to winning

18:01

certain things and you're not winning

18:03

even though you've laid out a plan that

18:05

says you're looking for something

18:07

later, dealing

18:09

with not doing as well as you're used

18:11

to is difficult. I mean, you

18:14

know, Lance, you had your team always focused

18:16

on the tour and you

18:19

can let the earlier results go, but you had

18:21

a team around you saying, this is according to

18:23

plan, this is all blah blah blah, you know,

18:25

so you don't get stressed if

18:28

it doesn't go exactly the way you would

18:30

like to have won some race or something.

18:33

So I don't know.

18:35

I think it's a combination of things.

18:37

I think it's an important reminder

18:40

that the Tour de France family

18:42

of Exwift starts what, two-ish

18:44

weeks later this year because of

18:46

the Olympic Games. If

18:48

I think about my career, we

18:51

always knew the tour was always roughly

18:54

early July. We had checkpoints along the

18:56

way and those checkpoints didn't happen

19:00

until April, May

19:03

and June. Right. And so I knew

19:06

that not so much

19:08

in Liège, but in those days, Amstel Gold

19:10

Race was after Liège. I had to be

19:12

towards the front of the race at

19:15

Amstel Gold Race as a checkpoint. Right. OK, I'm

19:18

there. Now we go to the May checkpoint, then

19:20

the June checkpoint, and then we'll see what happens

19:22

in July. If

19:24

for whatever reason the men's tour back

19:26

then started two or three weeks later,

19:29

well, my checkpoint gets pushed back. That's

19:32

then a May checkpoint and not a

19:34

late April checkpoint. So I

19:36

mean, I don't hate it. I think if

19:39

that's what it's probably smart,

19:41

she also has to consider the Olympic Games. But

19:44

if the tour is the one that

19:46

matters the most, which I believe that it is, then

19:48

it's just a later checkpoint. And then

19:50

it's going to be different than 2023 or 2022. Yeah,

19:54

I mean, I just think it's really tricky to

19:56

do the planning if you're a woman this year

19:58

because the Olympics are prior. to the

20:00

tour and while the tour might be

20:02

your big goal with your trade team,

20:04

the Olympics are your big goal for

20:06

your governing body and for,

20:08

I mean, the Olympics are still a

20:11

big deal for women especially. So I

20:13

don't know, I think it's kind of balancing

20:16

those things and it's a challenge. And then

20:18

you add into that that you're looking for

20:20

a new contract and you think everyone's judging

20:23

your results early on and you're in these

20:25

discussions and stuff, I think staying

20:27

focused is difficult. I

20:30

think she has her contract done. I

20:32

think she can do it, I mean, but

20:34

I mean, the way she's been writing it,

20:36

each race has gotten better. So

20:39

it's done, that was seven figures too. Yeah,

20:41

I'm pretty sure it's done and so that, you

20:44

know, it's hard with allegiances and stuff, but you

20:46

know Lance, like your

20:48

haircut looks really good. I mean, I know this is

20:50

not a sponsor of the show, but is this a

20:52

landscape thing? Cause I made Blaze cut. Are you really

20:54

taking it from Demi Buller into contract with Lisa's hair?

20:57

No, it's a landscape. I

21:00

want, well, first of all, Lance has a shirt

21:02

on that I want and he's gonna have to

21:04

make me one, but I did

21:06

notice your haircut cause like Blaze has been walking around just like

21:08

crazy hair. And I said, before you go to Sea Otter

21:10

Classic, please cut your hair. So you might need

21:13

to make it. No, I cut it back, I

21:15

cut it back. It's getting, you know, it's getting

21:17

hot here in Austin. And

21:19

you know, it's just easier. It's just

21:21

easier. If I grow

21:24

my hair, y'all know this, it turns into a fro.

21:26

And when it's hot and humid, it's like a super

21:28

fro. So I prefer to just cut

21:30

it back, but I'm also happy to

21:32

go back and talk about Demi Bullering, which by the

21:34

way, I was just checking my IG the other day.

21:37

The saying, got a new follower.

21:41

Demi Bullering, I was like, whoa. Oh

21:43

shit, that's dope. I mean, I was like, I get

21:46

a lot of cool followers, but I was

21:48

like, man, I have made it. The

21:51

women's champ for the Twitter France family

21:53

of Ex-Wift gave the

21:55

old man a follow. I was like, done. My

21:58

god, I almost didn't even show up. today almost

22:00

just screenshot it and send it to you all and

22:02

said you know what fuck it I'm taking the week

22:04

off I was pretty psyched.

22:07

Oh man I might have

22:10

asked her to do that for you just to make sure

22:12

you're Hey come on don't don't don't roll it. By

22:17

the way just just you know sticking with Demi I

22:19

mean I did have questions and

22:22

theories of my own I was like the gym work

22:24

I mean she's looking for some gym tips I've been

22:26

working out hard on the gym I didn't know why

22:29

and you just ruined it my mind

22:31

my homegirl said bullied her into following

22:33

me. Oh that well

22:35

have a good Sunday Lance. Also

22:37

she's really sweet you know maybe she felt sorry for

22:39

you. Hey

22:42

I'll take it. You know and

22:44

I we do want to talk about

22:47

this as we're traveling Mari's always somewhere

22:49

I've been in the sun a lot

22:51

here at Sea Otter Classic and taking

22:53

care of our skin and you're looking

22:55

we also celebrate all the moms in

22:57

the peloton to this like great space

23:00

that we are in women's sports where

23:02

these athletes can have maternity leave and

23:05

come back and keep racing with confidence

23:07

as they have their team contract still going on

23:09

we've talked about that with Lizzie Dygman Ellen

23:11

Van Dyke. So

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23:24

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23:29

taking care of your skin is really important but

23:31

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23:33

love your mom and I just want to remind you

23:36

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so just just remember

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hard work so I think your mom might actually

23:56

need that maybe from you like a little

23:59

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24:01

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24:30

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one of the things I wanted to remind people

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24:46

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24:48

making sure my face, like

24:50

my skin is that I take care of it.

24:53

But sometimes you forget about the

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your legs. And as you

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the body is a great way

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definitely having the peptides help with

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reversing skin damage and kind of,

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you know, not

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like making it so your skin isn't thinning

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as much as a really good thing. And

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that's my new favorite. Yeah,

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I hopped into the road race at Seattle

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Classic to, you know, do this like, GoPro

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360 live, you know, race with these women. And

25:41

when I looked at the results, by the way,

25:43

I had a blast. I'm not

25:46

going to state my age here, but most of the women

25:48

were under 22 in my road race. And

25:50

I was looking down at those like, you know, that quad

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muscle of the top of your knee. And I was like,

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I need to put some One Skin on there like those

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quads have been working for a lot of years, ladies. I

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probably should have talked about some examples. That's so

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funny, Ally, because I was looking at the girls

26:05

at the start line too when you were there.

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I thought you looked great, but I was like,

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oh my God, they are so young. I thought

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I was like, they're babies out there. I was

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like, hi, who are you? Where are you from?

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I was racing with a woman from Guatemala, from

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Mexico, women from all over the world to participate

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27:43

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27:45

moment is something that has been deserved for a long

27:47

time. And it's not just going to be a moment.

27:49

So this is this is so fun. We get to

27:52

talk about women's sports. Yup. Caitlin

27:54

Clark, we're sitting here talking about Demi Devoeing

27:57

getting a million dollar contract. You know,

27:59

which is interesting. I think we need to like

28:01

compare it to Caitlin, right? I mean, her salary

28:03

is something worth talking about maybe

28:05

at another time. Yeah.

28:08

So that's what we're gonna cut. She's gonna make

28:10

the paper on, I mean,

28:12

what she's doing. She has a signature shoe

28:14

with Nike. She's gonna, you know, she's- Well,

28:16

of course, but you still look at the,

28:18

like her salary versus, you know, the

28:21

men's salary. From the league. From the league.

28:23

I mean, unbelievable. Yeah, yeah. Yeah,

28:25

so let's also talk, oh, sorry. Oh, man. Sorry,

28:27

boss. No, I cut you off all the time.

28:30

I got really excited. Cause yes, we are also

28:32

gonna talk about some of the

28:34

other big Ardeng plastics. So we still have

28:36

to cover Ansel Gold, which

28:39

is going to be a little

28:41

dramatic because Lance, this is the most

28:43

embarrassing thing that ever happens. If you

28:45

celebrate too close before the finish, we'll talk

28:47

about that. And also it's

28:50

been a 1,770 days since

28:54

Cassia Neodoma has won a world tour race.

28:57

So let's dive into those two before we

28:59

wrap up. And we talked about this in

29:01

recent weeks, that

29:04

she's always there. Always. I mean, it's

29:06

like clockwork. She's there. And I think

29:08

I even said, I'm like, boy, when

29:11

are you gonna win one? I didn't realize-

29:13

I think sometimes she's your favorite. I don't know.

29:16

Sometimes I think you- I don't know.

29:18

Look, I don't have a

29:20

problem admitting that. I

29:23

love racers that are aggressive, that are always in

29:26

the moves, that are always in the mix. How

29:29

can you admit you're always trying? And

29:31

so, yeah, I'm a huge fan of that. So

29:34

where do you guys wanna start? Ansel Gold or Flesch to

29:37

wrap up our Ardennes? Let's go in

29:39

order. Okay, Ansel then. Okay,

29:42

Ansel actually. So it's

29:45

an interesting, it was a very unique

29:47

situation. So the race was supposed to be 154.7

29:49

kilometers. It's

29:52

a typical Ansel Gold course. And

29:54

there was an unfortunate accident where

29:56

a police officer and a motorcycle,

29:59

there was- a major injury

30:01

that occurred on course. So the

30:03

women 45 kilometers into the

30:05

race had to be neutralized for

30:07

over an hour. Can you imagine

30:09

going full gas starting Amstel Gold

30:11

and then you're sitting on the

30:13

side of the road in freezing

30:15

temperatures and your race

30:17

is neutralized. And so the race got shortened by

30:19

over 50 kilometers. So it took out one lap

30:21

of the finishing circuits and you know how hard

30:24

those finishing circuits are at Amstel Gold. And

30:27

so they went from three laps of the finishing circuit

30:30

instead of the four that were planned. And so

30:32

what I think what happened there is the

30:35

group's not as fatigued, right? That's

30:37

50 kilometers less of racing, which

30:40

that race is arduous. It doesn't

30:42

look hard. You think, you know, you're in Holland,

30:44

I have raced this course. There's

30:46

the tiniest roads and you're just like

30:48

up, down, twisty, right? And it's just hard.

30:50

Like nothing looks hard on paper until

30:52

you've been doing it for that long. So the group coming

30:55

into the finish was a select group of 19, but

30:58

I think there are some riders that

31:00

would not have been there if it had been, had that

31:03

extra 50 kilometers. So we're

31:05

coming into the finish and

31:07

we're going up the last time at the Coburg, which

31:09

is benefit of the world championship. I've definitely raced

31:11

up this, I don't know, feels like a million

31:13

times. And, and

31:16

Weavis is still there. So our Lorraine Weavis

31:18

from ST Works Pro Time is still there.

31:20

And she comes up to sprint and

31:23

you know, we got our Lamborghini going, you know,

31:25

it's like a sprint finish, it's a little hectic, but

31:27

the Coburg is not that steep. Like it's a big

31:29

ring sprint, right? And it was into a block

31:31

headwind, like anyway. And

31:34

she celebrates, does her big, you know,

31:36

she has that big like very powerful

31:38

celebration she does. And she

31:40

looks right before she crosses the line, but

31:42

she didn't realize on the left was

31:45

the boss, the boss. And

31:49

boss bike throws as

31:51

Weavis is doing her, you know, big

31:53

old like powerful muscle, it's

31:56

like, you know, post that. And

32:00

Voss tips the rest of the line for the win. I

32:05

mean, that's a, that's a, uh, we oftentimes

32:07

call that a PSA for the kids out

32:09

there learning to race bikes and hopefully win

32:11

bike races like kids. That's

32:13

a, that is a public service announcement. Like

32:15

if you don't post up buddy,

32:18

be, be 100% sure because it's, it

32:24

can happen other ways too, right? We, we

32:26

all grew up doing criteriums or circuit races.

32:28

We, we all seen the stories of somebody

32:30

that doesn't hear the

32:33

bell lap and comes across and they

32:35

posting up and all of a sudden they hear the bell

32:37

and like, Oh, shit, I got to do another one. Like

32:39

it can come in all different form and fashion, but

32:42

if you're, if you're going

32:44

to post up make totally

32:47

completely sure that you are winning.

32:50

Don't want somebody to come in because it's the worst, right?

32:52

You got your hands up here and you're looking down and

32:54

they're literally just riding underneath you. I watched

32:56

it. Yes. So many times. She looks right.

32:58

And she was the fastest sprinter on paper.

33:00

We best wins that sprint. She was the

33:03

fastest rider in this select group and she

33:05

looked right. And she just didn't realize the

33:07

boss being the boss. She is the goat.

33:09

She is just like, I got you. And

33:12

she goes by and, um,

33:14

basically we've been saving, um, after

33:16

the race, after following a,

33:18

like a lot of disappointments here is, which is

33:20

a hundred percent understandable, she said that she ate

33:22

an idiot sandwich. Well,

33:25

this should be a hard one. Like a, no,

33:28

she'd be in hard real quick. She'd be in hard on herself.

33:30

A lot of amazing champions have done

33:32

the very same night. It was not the first time

33:35

this has happened. She should not feel like it was

33:37

an idiot sandwich. It happens. It'll

33:39

never happen again to her. I promise you that

33:41

we all, I think you can see that, but

33:43

it just, it just, sometimes it

33:46

just happens. Well, and

33:48

it also shows, I think that like, you got

33:50

to keep fighting all the way to the line,

33:52

if you're not the one who's like, looks like

33:54

they've won the sprint. Right. I mean, Marianne Vaught

33:56

did the bike throw and ended up beating her

33:58

and it didn't look like. she was going to

34:00

be able to, and that's like a split second kind of

34:02

decision that she had to make to keep going for it.

34:06

And Voss never quitting, you know, being

34:08

the multi world champion, she is, but I

34:10

didn't know her arms could be that long.

34:12

She's not that tall of a person, but

34:14

that might've been the bike throw of all

34:16

bike throws. And though, however,

34:18

Lance, like, I know you guys probably covered this last

34:20

year on the men's, but that,

34:23

that finish line, like Pitcock did the same thing last

34:25

year, I believe it was, and it is, and they

34:27

try to make it more clear. And I was worried

34:30

that pity would do it again in the men's race

34:32

because it says like finished, but the lines like a

34:35

couple of meters, a little more. And I

34:38

don't know how like we've used the Coburg

34:40

and a finishing so many races, how confusing

34:42

where that finished line actually is like you're

34:44

in the finish line for like 20 meters

34:46

and where is the actual line? It was

34:49

a big deal in the men's race a couple of years ago. That should be very

34:51

clear for any race. But

34:55

I think we best that show that she was strong.

34:57

I don't think she actually would have been there.

34:59

I think it would have been a much

35:01

different finish if we had those extra 50

35:03

kilometers, an extra lap on that highly technical

35:05

hilly course, but I'm super

35:08

proud. I mean, Marian Voss coming back,

35:10

like Voss's boss is my big thing.

35:12

And I, my heart hurt for Weavis because that's

35:15

a hard race to be. And also just, it

35:18

sucks. And I, I'm glad you say that she shouldn't be

35:20

harder herself, but you know how it is. Like, what would

35:22

you be doing? Like you would just be like, oh,

35:25

like idiot. Sound was a funny way to say it. But

35:28

you know, she won't do it again. I agree. And

35:33

that's when we dive into our last hard

35:36

dens that we haven't covered, which was

35:38

less is the midweek race. So

35:40

just, just as a reminder, right? These races, the,

35:43

the, the, the, the longer

35:46

races, harder races, not the flush one

35:48

isn't hard. It's very hard. But

35:50

I'm still only as sort of booking this

35:53

thing. And then flush alone is always a

35:55

midweek race. It's a little bit like getting

35:57

wevel again for the, for the, for the

35:59

Flemish races. for the cobbled races up in

36:01

Flanders. But plush loans,

36:03

yours truly won that race going way

36:05

back 1996. The

36:08

Muir de Wies... Was I born yet? I

36:11

don't know. I told you not. You said at the top

36:13

of the show that you won't tell anybody your age. I

36:16

was born. I just might have been 10. I

36:19

thought you were going to open up and tell us how old you are. But

36:21

the Muir de Wies is very difficult.

36:28

And certainly the conditions, I didn't catch the women's

36:30

race, but the conditions for the men's race were

36:33

just awful. But

36:35

the climb itself is brutal. And

36:39

you do it multiple times, and of course the finish

36:41

is on top. And to have Nioh Adoma right

36:43

on the heels of us talking about her, like, isn't it

36:45

time that she actually wins one of

36:47

these? Well, I think she might have been... She

36:50

got the message because great

36:53

to see her finally win. And yes, I

36:55

will admit, she is one of my favorites. Oh,

36:58

I love it. Yeah, so Flesh of the Lone is...

37:00

I've raced it a bunch. And it's

37:03

weird because the Muir de Wies doesn't feel that

37:05

hard. Like, I mean, it's hard, but when

37:07

you're racing, the race is setting up, and

37:09

then suddenly it's like the hardest 10K of

37:11

your life. And then you just... Like, especially

37:13

when you're domestic, like I was, where you're

37:15

leading through all these technical circuits, and

37:18

then somehow you lose two and a

37:20

half minutes in like a kilometer, right? Like

37:22

when you're leading exactly. How hard you go up

37:25

the last finishing of that climb is nuts. So

37:27

Flesh of the Lone was 143.5 kilometers for the women. It

37:32

was extremely cold, wet, and snowy. So

37:34

I think that really factored in. Cassi

37:37

Aneidoma attacks 200 meters to go.

37:40

Amy maybe was a little slow to follow her.

37:42

So I felt like she was coming at like

37:45

more speed. And then

37:47

Elisa Longo-Burgini, or Lamborghini, gets third. It

37:49

was a really exciting finish. Also,

37:52

this is cool because we talk a lot about

37:54

these races coming back into the women's world

37:57

tour schedule, but this is the 28th edition. So

38:00

let's kudos to like flesh alone for

38:03

always having a women's race like for

38:05

this long. And

38:07

it finished one hour after the men's. When I've done in years past, we

38:10

usually finish an hour before. So it just depends. And

38:13

I did tell this stat that it's been 1,770 days since Cassiania

38:15

Doma's last win. But

38:20

that is 30 times Lance, 30 times

38:23

at second or third place at a

38:26

world tour race. And Cassiania Doma tweets,

38:28

I guess 31 is my lucky number.

38:31

Hey, it's a big one to win.

38:37

But I do think we were talking

38:39

about lowering earlier and her form coming

38:41

back. And I felt like

38:43

she wrote into that pretty confident. She was

38:46

basically like leading up the whole, you know,

38:48

she was leading up the whole climate tour

38:50

of the finish. And

38:53

I thought maybe, you know, I was watching thinking,

38:55

you know, maybe she's a little bit too confident

38:57

here because she's got, you know, everyone

38:59

with her, not everyone, but. And

39:02

so it was interesting when Katja attacked her because I didn't

39:04

know that Katja would have as much of a jump as

39:06

she did at that time. Same

39:09

as I'm sure Vollring was assuming. But

39:12

I thought it was interesting that maybe

39:14

she is starting to feel like she's coming

39:16

into form a little bit because she was

39:18

riding in a confident kind of manner at

39:21

the finish. Yeah,

39:27

and the emotion was just

39:29

beautiful. And I love emotion

39:31

in sports. And I know sometimes people – I

39:34

mean, Lance, I know maybe you wanted to hide

39:36

some of your emotions because you have this, like,

39:38

you know, steel vision and you want to be,

39:40

like, impenetrable. But to see

39:42

the emotion of, no, that's true, right? Sometimes athletes

39:44

have eyes. Yeah, I'm only smirking because you guys

39:46

know me, so you're all like, yeah, that's a

39:49

bunch of bullshit. She's getting the goofball.

39:52

Yeah, well, we know you better. But, you know, people

39:54

– the emotion and the

39:56

raw, just joy that she had Was

39:59

really special. because she's been fighting for

40:01

this. Like I said, thirty times on

40:03

the podium. For. Their last

40:05

eat out several years and for her.

40:08

To com and and to be. Just so

40:10

thrilled and and I think honestly to

40:12

see was really survive in this cold

40:14

temperatures. To because I think that

40:17

was really affecting riders on. Their

40:19

one minute interesting though they issue on

40:22

the gravel World championships which I mean

40:24

in the red Athena is not nothing

40:26

bad as she ended up getting a

40:28

big win last year and at the

40:30

end of the year and I saw

40:33

the way we were even start the

40:35

exams daughter over that hump of winning

40:37

something bags and I'm. So. I

40:39

feel alive now that. That was her

40:41

first thing now she's one flash and today

40:44

she was riding likes you. Thought she would

40:46

win skill today so I'm really excited to

40:48

see what happens league at the next race.

40:50

And you know cause I am I didn't

40:53

worried about the Olympics as she is about

40:55

the two or so. My guess is be

40:57

she wraps all and for the two or

41:00

so I'm not a didn't notice one more

41:02

you brought up to those feathers. And

41:05

Leo's. And others yet made a

41:07

fantastic attack. And course the commenters like are

41:09

we gonna see if they were both the

41:11

the flesh and way as Double Bomb. And

41:14

then Lamborghini taught her and

41:16

our own and skipped following.

41:19

Mother. Says

41:23

interesting I'm is perfect for

41:25

liberties but. A Not. A

41:27

typical you have some. As soon as they get caught

41:29

they sit up and read reach out to a to

41:31

try to make for the plan Bugaboo Know. Where

41:34

says not? Heard a misprint game but

41:36

Cj was. I was like oh okay.

41:38

I would have loved to have been

41:40

in earshot to Sear for sure. I

41:42

know if that was me and somebody.

41:45

Had agreed to continue to pull I would be

41:47

talking. By. The it to move

41:49

whatever language they're exchanging. It's

41:52

perfect for her. As

41:55

opposed to the sitting there on the phone, be in

41:57

a sitting duck. By. i

41:59

fell man and I was like, there's

42:01

some solidarity here on some level.

42:05

Yeah, I didn't quite understand it either. I

42:08

just thought, well, she must think that possibly

42:11

if she keeps going, not everyone's going to

42:14

come around and maybe she could still salvage

42:16

a podium position if they're not good behind

42:20

her, right? But I didn't quite get it either.

42:22

Because if she had tried to regroup, I don't

42:24

think she would have been able to regroup and

42:26

she doesn't have enough of a sprint to come

42:28

around anyone. Well, they didn't. That's

42:31

where I think is a mistake. I think she

42:33

went like, oh, this worked last time. And

42:36

that's where I think Canyon Stram is the biggest

42:38

loser to have two in those with the tactical

42:40

air of not going full commit to that. They

42:42

didn't even podium. So harsh words from

42:44

Ellie. I think she did full commit on

42:47

that last one. She had a pretty good

42:49

gap and they were just coming back. I

42:51

mean, they weren't the sprinters in that group.

42:54

Okay. Well, we had a lot of time trials, which

42:56

I do think is the big takeaway for today. There's a lot of

42:58

time trials in that group, but I didn't mean to be harsh. I'm

43:00

just... No, we like it. Harsh is good.

43:03

Harsh is good. And I will come over the

43:05

top. My big takeaway, I'm going to repeat what

43:07

I said at the top of the show. That

43:10

was a fun bike race. If you're just

43:12

a fan and you're just sitting on your

43:14

couch watching a sporting event, that was

43:16

fun to watch. Like I loved

43:18

it. That

43:20

was exciting. It had a bunch of question

43:22

marks. You had potential crashes. You

43:25

had strategy. You had some alliances and

43:27

allegiances, which is what I just referenced.

43:30

I was like, I don't know. I don't know who's going to win. That's

43:32

the way it's supposed to happen. It was

43:34

exciting. Yeah. Beautiful

43:36

bike racing. That's the expression of the sport and

43:38

we love to watch it and we love all

43:40

the riders. Speaking of that,

43:43

when is this Godforsaken thing you were trying

43:45

to rope me into coming up? I'm

43:47

going to Arkansas for the Rule of Three, right? Well,

43:50

yeah. I asked if you wanted to go to gravel locos with me,

43:52

but you told me it was too long because it's like 150 miles.

43:55

Oh yeah. Oh my goodness. Just

43:57

for the record. Just for the record. Well,

43:59

I have ridden that. far but I

44:03

will never for the rest of my life

44:05

ride 150 miles that's that's ridiculous

44:07

I'm with Lance on that one thank you

44:09

there's another distance it's like 110 and Bolch is

44:11

gonna come up but then he said he had

44:14

to go to rule of three with you

44:16

that feels real good here's the loser division

44:18

are you fucking losers are you wimps going

44:20

over here you didn't invite

44:22

me to rule of three I was like well one of us is

44:24

gonna have to wait for one of us to the other me like

44:26

I will wait for you 150 miles you'll have

44:28

to wait for me at rule of three that's like going to that

44:30

other thing you do that the other thing and in middle

44:33

of nowhere and they have the hundred mile

44:36

division like who does that I

44:39

did I did the hundred they were like oh

44:41

wow that's lame like no no no I'm

44:43

not whenever if

44:47

you're riding a bike you're doing it right Lance and

44:49

I'm sorry that it's just too long and hard for

44:51

you you know like we can find easier for you

44:53

to do well I will fully

44:55

cop to that no problem next

44:59

time we'll bring you out to the sea

45:01

otter classic you can do the family off-road

45:03

tour yeah that's just what I would love a

45:05

whole lot of strangers talking about bikes

45:07

I mean usually we're just making the list

45:09

of shit that makes me want to swallow

45:12

with 357 like all these things

45:16

I'm out I'm out on all that I'm

45:18

just at the Rosewood in

45:20

Menlo Park I was there at sea otter for a

45:22

couple days now you know why I'm

45:24

still here eighty thousand of my best friends talking

45:26

about bikes saying that you're so nice

45:28

Lance that's what they're all saying they're saying

45:30

Mari's smart I'm exciting and you're so no

45:33

just kidding I mean sea otter is super

45:35

fun they're like the expo is big I

45:37

mean it's the biggest expo in the country

45:39

right now because

45:41

we don't have one right you enter by go away and

45:44

and there was this void I

45:46

mean how long has it been since there was a big trade show

45:48

I don't even know how long so this this

45:51

seems like it's still the void you got

45:53

to have I mean the industry has to

45:55

have that right it's an insane it's an

45:57

insane event and it's beautiful here in like

45:59

Monterey Carmel area Like so many people all

46:01

the trade shows you can like geek out you

46:03

can race dual slalom and thorough road The

46:05

circuit race on the Laguna Seca racetracks you're going down

46:08

the corkscrew on your bike. It's super fun kids are

46:10

just running around So

46:12

all bike dorks. I've had a lot of fun. I'm

46:14

exhausted. Um, but You

46:18

know your your presence was requested by

46:20

maybe one person good Well, my

46:22

second wife Mel strong was there shout out to

46:24

Mel strong my partner Yes,

46:27

my partner next ventures that my much smarter

46:30

better partner, uh, she was there Um,

46:33

so You know everyone's there. So

46:35

you need to be there But

46:38

george was not there. Oh, I guess that's true

46:41

Was it not bougie enough for george? It's

46:44

you talked about dust and wind and and

46:46

that's not bougie. So Anyways,

46:48

all right y'all this was fun Great.

46:51

It was fun. Yeah. Thanks for tuning

46:53

in everybody mari I know that pool

46:56

over there at the rosewood. I know it's beautiful

46:59

It's working on my way the

47:01

writing. Yeah, yeah right there Right

47:06

there Yeah, so All

47:08

right, everybody. Thanks for tuning in y'all. Have a

47:11

great weekend. We'll see you soon. What's

47:13

fun. Bye. Bye Oh

47:17

boy You

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