At it again, David Fitch and Geoff Holsclaw talk about the difficult issue of "mutual submission" (from Eph. 5:21). They discuss why people don't want to talk about it (from rightful fear of abuse to not wanting to submit to anyone...ever), the theology of mutual submission and the difficult practice of it.

Also, as usually Dave and Geoff talk about the books they are reading and through in a little "Fitch vs. Fitch" to end it all.