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3:16

topic for this? Theories Thursday. All

3:19

right. So for this week's. There's

3:21

there's they. I decided to do a

3:24

missing person topic. Who. I love

3:26

that! Let's. Solve it. Now. This

3:28

is the disappearance case of Emma Fill

3:30

a poof. That's. What color

3:32

is that will look like? That. Lapook spell

3:34

it out F I L L I

3:36

T O S. Okay, We're gonna call

3:38

or M f. Now this disappearance

3:41

case. Actually got gained like

3:43

a lot of media coverage when it

3:45

happened and she actually gained. I

3:47

can't really say see. The. Then again, yet these

3:49

are. The nickname for the

3:51

disappearance case was god barefoot into

3:53

the night. Arbel. Nickname but

3:56

okay, Once. You hear about it, it

3:58

kind of makes sense. Okay, For.

4:00

The neither emma went missing. There was a nine,

4:03

one one call. And it was

4:05

report of a woman. Walking. Down

4:07

the street. Completely. Barefoot and middle the

4:09

night. So. That's gonna what they go

4:11

off. Of. So. This disappeared.

4:14

Is still a mystery, has not been solved.

4:16

Spoiler Alert. Now. It's

4:18

been eleven years. To. Get into it

4:21

out the the that they all have not as

4:23

a lot of the stuff is pretty sketchy. Okay,

4:26

I'll. Look into the background of a a bit. So.

4:28

From what I was able to find out, She.

4:31

Was born on January Six. Nineteen Eighty Six.

4:33

In. A town called purse. Which. Is

4:35

near Ottawa in eastern part of

4:38

Ontario. The. Down being small,

4:40

neighbors were known to look out for

4:42

one another. Pretty much got like my

4:44

home where everyone knows everyone. If you

4:46

have something happens everyone knows. Now.

4:49

And was parents James and silly. They.

4:51

Have four kids total that lived in a house that

4:53

they had built themselves. Emma would

4:55

grow up to be very active

4:57

sweet kind, kinda quiet but yet

5:00

goofy. And this is all how

5:02

her sister described. As you

5:04

would grow up, she would end up taking after her

5:06

father's artistic side. To. Become known

5:08

for her art projects as well as or

5:10

photography. And. Any time

5:12

you saw her. She would always have

5:14

a camera in her hands, taking photos of

5:16

anything and everything. That she was interested

5:18

in. And see always kept

5:21

a journal wanna. Fall for.

5:23

Laptop chew toys, right journal entries of

5:25

what he did that day, and she

5:27

would even dabble in some poetry. So.

5:30

She was very artistic. Not. Autistic, no

5:32

artistic which all artist a little bit.

5:34

it is a millimetre and we I

5:36

have it's yeah with does. Now.

5:39

The one thing that everyone definitely

5:41

do know about. Emma. Was

5:44

the fact that she loved going on walks? Without.

5:46

She's. She was

5:48

always barefoot. Any time she came back

5:51

from one of her walk, her feet would be

5:53

bruised and bleeding. Because. You would

5:55

walk everywhere barefoot. And. She enjoyed

5:57

this. Not sure why. Not. Not

5:59

a tincture. Yeah, I've got a kink. shame.

6:02

So. As you with their schools, you graduate

6:04

high school than attend college, getting a

6:06

diploma in Ontario for photo journalism. But.

6:09

That. Wasn't enough? Her. So. She

6:11

decided to go back to college to British

6:13

Columbia. To get another diploma in column

6:16

Every arts. And I do have

6:18

a photo of Emma here. So.

6:20

Yeah, they're right there is. A. Bigger than

6:22

have taken picture of herself with their camera. So.

6:24

She is a caucasian

6:26

female that. Pretty much looks

6:28

like every single white female have ever seen him

6:31

alive. Yeah, they. All look

6:33

the same. Level

6:35

as Albert sign of my whole life. Yeah,

6:39

she has bangs or hairs up

6:41

in of a messy bunch as

6:43

what brownish reddish hair. And

6:46

eyebrows. Strong. Jawline:

6:49

She seems pretty slim.

6:51

Probably. The hundred and twenty

6:53

pounds. I would say Hundred and

6:55

thirty. But. You could tell she's

6:58

artistic, despite the way she's holding her. A

7:00

camera in that photo will get it. Yeah,

7:03

she. Stabilizing a. Mere. For.

7:06

Yeah, so there you have it, That is a type of person

7:08

Emma was. Now. To get

7:10

into the events that led up to her disappearance.

7:13

So. In the fall of two thousand and twelve.

7:15

Emma was about twenty six years old and was

7:18

living with her father in Perth. What?

7:20

She decided that she wanted to move to

7:22

Victoria, British Columbia in order to experience a

7:25

new life in a place that she felt

7:27

wrong to. Beautiful area, absolutely

7:29

beautiful area. even. Know

7:31

I've looked at pictures of. It's one of the places I

7:34

want to visit. I'm. Looking up. Looked.

7:36

Up the saga. Hook it up. Yeah, it's.

7:41

Bad. For your favorite. A. While. The.

7:43

Got mountains. They are beautiful

7:45

Water beautiful landscape, Absolutely

7:48

stunning area. No wonder she would want to move

7:50

there. You know? That is actually really

7:52

nice. So. Yeah, she ended up

7:54

moving the victoria. And. She would

7:56

actually end up getting a seasonal job at the Red

7:58

Fish Blue Fish. The Food: Right at Victoria's

8:01

inner harbor. Not. Just that

8:03

those into was these know she would also work some

8:05

other our jobs. But. Either way, she

8:07

was loving her time in Victoria.

8:10

While. Working at the Harvard this actually worked

8:12

out for because she would end up staying

8:14

with a friend their that actually had a

8:16

houseboat. So. She didn't have to travel far to

8:18

go to work. She. Lived right there on

8:21

the water there so she was they would that

8:23

friend from time time. Then. In

8:25

October, around thirty First wrote

8:27

around. The. Restaurant would close

8:29

down. Due. To a been seasonal. Oh

8:32

so on Halloween they closed down. On Halloween

8:34

they closed down. And. Co. Since.

8:36

A close down Emma told her boss i say. I.

8:39

Love Working Year. I'll be back in

8:41

the spring. So. Make sure to send me a spot.

8:44

Records that is like yeah, come back

8:46

in the Spring Moriarty. Now.

8:49

Going into November, She. Would work

8:51

some odd jobs again to try to make them

8:53

in com first day in Victoria. But.

8:55

This is where things start to get

8:57

little weird. By. Late

8:59

November. Emma. Would start calling

9:01

home to her mother in Perth. And.

9:04

Start you're having long conversations with there and

9:06

talk about how she really really wanted to

9:08

move back home. November Twenty

9:10

Fourth Can around. In the middle of

9:12

the night. M I decided to call her

9:14

mother, waking her up. What day was this again? Twenty

9:16

fourth. So. November twenty fourth. Yes, so

9:19

near thinks given. Around. That time for him.

9:22

Her. Mother Sally said that emo quarter

9:24

woke her up. And. Emma was

9:26

crying. told her that she needed to come home.

9:29

Emma told her mom and she needs to come on.

9:31

That's right, Okay what are mom say?

9:33

They. Talked it over and listen you can come back

9:35

a you know Cenelec amount it wanted to call

9:38

I believe they wanted to come back home. So.

9:40

Emma would call. Crying. Saying

9:43

I want to come home. And they were talk

9:45

for a while. And her mom silly was

9:47

it's like you're always welcome to come back home.

9:49

We love you. We honestly wants you to come

9:51

back or. So. It would seem

9:53

like a right. And was gonna go back

9:55

home. But. By the end of the phone

9:57

call. Him. A movie like. You know,

10:00

The com decosta here. Okay, As you

10:02

change your mind to change or much. Then.

10:04

The next day. Immobile color

10:06

mom again, but this time. She.

10:09

Wasn't crying she wasn't on about coming home to

10:11

to say of side. Mom. Thought.

10:13

About it. I. Don't want to come back on now.

10:16

November. Twenty Fifth, November Twenty Fifth. Mom's

10:18

like or does he told me that last

10:20

night for we hung up Bitch yet. And.

10:22

Then of course her mom ass or like. Why?

10:25

Do you change your mind? In. This part. Is.

10:27

What confuse the hell out of a mom? Emma

10:29

told her mom. Said. She could not

10:32

space her as she was now. The

10:35

mom has no clue what she's talking about but that

10:37

was excuse that she could not move back home is

10:40

cause as he is now she can't face or mom.

10:42

But. I'm also try to commence emma like

10:44

you know, If you wanna come home it's

10:47

okay. you can do it to. Combat.

10:50

This. Would go on for like several days back and

10:52

forth. Course. Emma would still call

10:54

and rare middle the night crying. Talking.

10:57

About coming home and then change your

10:59

mind again. So. Something. obviously. You

11:02

know what's going on behind the scenes?

11:04

Yeah, And. For. Like

11:06

a side note here. The. Friends

11:08

and acquaintances that she'd emma did

11:10

have in Victoria. They. Talked

11:12

about how they noticed the few times that

11:14

they did. I know whether. That.

11:17

Emma was not per usual self. something

11:19

was totally off. And. Actually

11:21

bothered one of her friends. Said.

11:23

They actually called Nine One One. To

11:26

go to where Imma was staying. Or

11:28

welfare check. That's. How odd she was

11:30

acting. The. Blazing of go in

11:32

there. They. Talk To Her. She.

11:35

Was fine and there's like are, well there's nothing

11:37

we can do is to knowing that she's buying

11:39

things mentally stable. So. The Left or Love. Her

11:41

and. So. Better another. Phone

11:44

calls. we back and forth. Our.

11:46

Com Oh never mind when come

11:48

home nevermind. A got to the point

11:51

that. It was. Mother was like. I've

11:53

had enough. I'm flying their. Something's.

11:56

Going on. So. Her mother Sally was

11:58

gonna fly from Perth to the. Korea when

12:00

was this? This. Would be

12:02

the twenty eighth. Okay, She.

12:05

Was tired of them Are calling? Change your mind that

12:07

in the phone call. Pretty. Much she knew

12:09

something was going on in her. Motherly instinct was just

12:11

like you need to go to are. So.

12:14

On November Twenty eight. Him as

12:16

mom. Arrived in Victoria around

12:18

eleven pm. Or mom

12:20

went to wear Emma was supposedly staying. Didn't.

12:23

See are there. She. Waited there for

12:25

a while. Only to find out.

12:28

That. Emma was not staying there. Emma

12:30

was actually staying at a women's

12:33

shelter in Victoria. So. She

12:35

didn't have a permanent residents. She.

12:37

Was as thing at one of these women's shelters? During

12:39

the night and and done a day, she would often do

12:41

stuff. So.

12:43

that kind of the room other off because she never

12:45

knew. She. Thought that she was like staying

12:48

with one of our friends. like in the boat house or.

12:50

General. Blase. But. That wasn't

12:52

the case. Now. Her

12:55

mother would search around waiting for to

12:57

come back. Nothing.

12:59

The. Toys You couldn't get hold of her cause

13:01

Victoria to time didn't have a cellphone. For.

13:03

Some reason Victoria hated cell phones. So she's

13:05

as like, know, Later

13:07

that night. Her mother's silly ended

13:10

up going and reporting to the police that. Her.

13:12

Daughter is missing. And. That's when

13:14

be search for Emma started. Now

13:17

when the please got involved with it. They

13:20

were actually able to make a timeline. Of

13:22

him as movements for that day.

13:24

The Twenty Eight. And a

13:26

lot of it's really weird. So. It

13:28

all starts the morning of Twenty Eight around eight

13:31

am. They would see that.

13:33

Emma. Woke. Up. Left.

13:35

The women's Shelter. And. Actually,

13:38

She. Would go back and forth in and

13:40

out of the women's shelter. They

13:42

says like she was like visiting her hands. And.

13:45

Said. She looked like she was under stress in that. As

13:48

he walked out to look around. And

13:50

walk back inside. It. Almost looked

13:52

as is she was trying to avoid someone.

13:55

And. Okay, Now.

13:57

Before we get into that. We're. Going to take

13:59

a quick. Rake and will be right back.

14:02

Aren't. Welcome back! Then.

14:04

Around eight thirty am. They

14:06

were able to spot Emma on a security

14:09

cam footage at a local convenience store. Was.

14:11

Would actually purchase a two hundred dollar prepaid

14:13

debit card. Along. with

14:16

a prepaid cell phone. Now.

14:18

She would go back to the shelter for a while. And

14:21

she was stay there till about. Six.

14:23

Pm. When. they saw exiting

14:25

the shelter again. This time

14:27

they actually saw her get into a

14:29

taxi and your they took off. So.

14:32

Of course the police found a taxi driver and

14:34

question I'm. Gonna. Find out

14:36

the taxi driver Sort of like yeah I picked

14:39

up this girl. Emma. On the

14:41

shelter we started driving. Then.

14:43

She realized. She. Couldn't afford.

14:45

Be fair. To. Go to the

14:47

airport. That's where she was heading. It.

14:50

Was a sixty dollar fair. And their

14:52

dislike. Well. That doesn't make sense. You

14:54

just bought a tuna.a prepaid debit card. Young?

14:56

how the hell she buy the plane ticket

14:58

if skyn afford a sixty dollar taxi ride

15:00

then and they checked her bank accounts. Said.

15:03

A couple thousand dollars in or bank account. so it's

15:05

not like she didn't have the money to pay for.

15:08

For. Some reason she didn't want to go to the airport no

15:10

more. You seen. A

15:12

getting out of taxi, This. Would be

15:15

around. The. Empress Hotel as you

15:17

will get out at. And

15:19

they're. An acquaintance of Emma. Spotted.

15:22

Her. His name is Dennis Quaid

15:24

and he said that he saw him are

15:26

walking back and forth on the sidewalk and

15:28

further some tell. Barefoot.

15:31

It's. Not uncommon to see or walk around

15:33

barefoot. But. She was like pace and back

15:35

and forth. So. Of course Dennis

15:37

goes over there, starts talking to Emma. And

15:39

pretty much what he was doing. Was.

15:42

Keeping her occupied because he ended up calling

15:44

the cops. To have them com and

15:46

talk to or because you could tell that something was

15:48

wrong. So. We get to their the

15:50

cops arrived. Denizens of Go on his

15:53

own way like I. Because the here though,

15:55

handle the rest. The. Cops ended up

15:57

staying there for about forty five minutes talking

15:59

to him. And they

16:01

honestly like point blank astor like.

16:04

Alderman to help. You. Out you're walking

16:06

barefoot. Your. Feet are probably bloody now. You?

16:08

Okay? Do you want to harm yourself?

16:10

You will harm somebody else. Emma

16:13

told them and abuse Or than that she had

16:15

no intention of harming yourself or anyone else. And.

16:17

Then she stated in a quote. I'm.

16:20

Going through some things right now. And.

16:22

Just going for a walk. Butcher.

16:24

Ozzy was dogs walking back and forth like at

16:26

the crosswalk. And for this of dell. For.

16:28

Not much of a while, But. After

16:30

talking with Emma, the police decided that she

16:32

wasn't a threat to herself for anyone else.

16:35

And or mental state. Seem. To be fought.

16:38

So. The only thing they could do at the

16:40

moment was let go. And write a report

16:42

on. That they were talk to her. She seemed

16:44

fine and that was it. Felt.

16:46

This would be about midnight on the twenty

16:48

eight now. And. Of course. A

16:51

mom was already looking for then. She.

16:53

Was at the woman shelter. That's.

16:55

When the blazers are getting involved trying to

16:57

search for and that's when they found the

16:59

reports of are being taught to and everything.

17:02

So. Yeah, the official missing persons report

17:04

was filed that night. After

17:06

everything happened. Now. Her mother.

17:09

Sally. Shit. Up staying

17:11

in Victoria to search for Emma. She.

17:13

Says run the shelter. Though. Tell.

17:16

The. Harbour where she. Worked. That.

17:19

Anywhere she could think of that. M.

17:21

A Mentioned. She was stay there

17:23

for two months. Putting. Up posters

17:25

handing out poses to. Everybody

17:27

that walked by for two months. For

17:29

two months. She did this straight. To

17:32

january. Two Thousand thirteen? Yeah.

17:35

Now. As he did that, the police kept searching

17:37

for a long as well. Which. They

17:40

end up finding them as vehicle. She.

17:42

Had a red marks the van.

17:45

And. They. Noticed that all

17:47

of her belongings. Other. Than

17:50

was yet owner. Was. Inside of his van.

17:52

And when I say belongings that involve

17:54

the. A backpack that had

17:57

her passport, digital camera, close laptop,

18:00

Some. Overdue library books, And.

18:03

They're just like if you walk around is

18:05

she was on at the airport. Why?

18:07

Would she not have all the stuff? Weather? Especially

18:09

like our passports of ride. Identification.

18:13

So. Daughter. Stuff. They.

18:15

Found a laptop. That's when they decide. You know

18:17

whether good or laptop. See what we can find.

18:21

And they ended up finding her journal.

18:24

So. She got they digital journal. Soon.

18:27

As they read through her journal. She talked

18:29

about feeling alone and depressed but you could

18:31

not find a way to express it the

18:33

any. So. The Doom.

18:36

The Police. They. Said that

18:38

Yoshi decided to keep the pain of being

18:40

alone and depressed or so. And.

18:42

Is that of actually seeking help? And

18:44

they did read out that she did

18:46

talk about returning to. Earth. Or

18:49

hometown. And. Waiting til spring to

18:51

come back and work at the restaurant again. So.

18:54

Her plan was to go home. During.

18:56

All season. Then. When. The.

18:59

Restaurant that reopened up. she would back

19:01

to Victoria. To. Work there and stay

19:03

there. But. Something. That.

19:06

Now. Since. He did talk

19:09

about being depressed. The. Police got

19:11

in their head saying you know. Maybe.

19:13

She. Did. Something to harm yourself? They.

19:16

End up getting a bunch of divers. Been

19:18

actually searching the harbor. For. Like three

19:20

weeks straight. Didn't. Find anything.

19:23

So. They're just like okay, so maybe she didn't do that.

19:26

Since. The police's like are that's a dead end.

19:28

We didn't find any bodies either like. Let's.

19:31

Check our other leads. They

19:33

decided to look into the prepaid cell phone. Because.

19:36

They do that first. Broke I you

19:38

figure. Fights. They

19:40

use of contacting the carrier the prepaid cell

19:42

phone. And they learned that be

19:44

cell phone was never activated. So. She

19:47

bought it when never activated. Then.

19:49

They try to look into the prepaid debit card as

19:51

he bought. But. Nothing on that

19:54

came back yet. It. Wasn't until

19:56

later on that the police folly gotta hit

19:58

on the debit card been used. It

20:01

was a man that use the

20:03

card purchasing. Some. Cigarettes.

20:06

And of course. They. Caught him. Took.

20:09

A man wears? yeah, I started

20:11

question years I go you have or debit

20:13

card where you see. The. Man

20:15

said as. He. Had found the car

20:17

laying on the road near the community center. Which.

20:19

Was twelve miles from where am I was last

20:22

seen. The of course they're just

20:24

like yeah, you found this on the ground I'm

20:26

sure. Well. They.

20:28

Interrogated of the more. They even hooked

20:30

him up to a polygraph test. When.

20:32

She passed. So. There it is.

20:34

I. Will. Sit. I.

20:36

Guess it checks out. He. Doesn't know where

20:38

I'm his. Heart. You're free to go! So.

20:41

That was a dead end for them. And. He's

20:43

like damn. Hey, can I keep

20:45

in that regard? Owner. They to that

20:48

and the cigarettes are you. You know they did

20:50

hear them. Carr Brothers. So.

20:52

They thought they had something they didn't. So.

20:55

The police kept digging. Which. Then

20:57

they learned. About. The. Most

20:59

friend from Perth. See.

21:02

Consider them friends. Now.

21:04

Before Emma left for Victoria.

21:07

Emma. Had apparently met a young men at a

21:09

music festival. And this

21:11

man immediately. Became.

21:14

Pretty. Much smitten. With. Emma.

21:16

He. Was in love. He. Thought was like love

21:19

at first sight. Sadly, Though.

21:21

Emma was not interested in anything romantic

21:24

like that. See. To saw the guy

21:26

as a friend. Which. This.

21:28

Guy, he was that your throat about that. And.

21:31

Since demos leaving for victory as well, it made

21:33

it even worse of this guy. Is.

21:35

Heartbroken over law. but you're leaving

21:37

me to. Sell. The

21:39

weird thing is, when am I moved to

21:42

Victoria? It. Wasn't long before the young

21:44

men. Have also moved victoria.

21:47

Months. Later which he says by

21:49

coincidence because of a job. So.

21:51

At least on this out. They. Were

21:54

detained dumb and brought him in for

21:56

questioning. And. They even polygraph test

21:58

of him. Which. Best. He.

22:00

Actually had alibi. So.

22:02

Now they're just, like, well, historic er,

22:04

fizzy know he was very smith. whether.

22:07

Followed. Her victoria but he said was for job

22:09

but he passed the polygraph test so I don't know.

22:12

maybe. I. Guess he told the truth.

22:14

Comes. In for questioning were Skin as is

22:16

on his base. So. Again,

22:19

the police and up. Running into a

22:21

dead in with this case. Emos,

22:23

Mother Sally. See. Still

22:25

doing like our own investigation. She.

22:27

Still dinosaurs for him. a. Which.

22:29

Honestly I don't know from other got

22:31

involved or other siblings did. It

22:34

just seemed like cel he was the only one really searching

22:36

for. But. Silly Ended

22:38

up contacting D C B C which I believe

22:40

as a new station there. And.

22:42

The I guess they had their own investigative team.

22:45

See. Total was happening. They

22:47

got involved in. that's when. It. Became

22:50

like a big media sensation. Like.

22:52

All, where's Emma at? where she goes?

22:54

He disappeared. Barefoot. In the night. Day

22:57

it up. Receiving: A photograph

22:59

of a woman. Sitting in a

23:01

cafe? Supposedly. Reading Or

23:04

Writing. And. There is like

23:06

up from what we heard Emma used to do this. Films.

23:09

Like. A. Lot of people do that. a

23:11

ton of people do here. So.

23:13

Of course. There's. Like a we might have

23:15

a lead there's a picture of a woman that sitting in

23:17

a cafe. Reading. And writing. Pretty.

23:20

Much they just gave silly and was mom.

23:22

oh. Yeah. Well.

23:25

That. Hope was lost very quickly because

23:27

a woman came forward. As

23:29

like a that's a picture of me. On

23:31

why you have picked or me. For. Yeah, was

23:33

in the cafe that day south that me. Look.

23:37

Nothing like Emma. So.

23:39

That pretty much ended up being a dead and

23:41

again. So. Silly

23:43

ended up going through him as laptop again.

23:46

That is when they discovered what they

23:48

think. Would. Silly, don't think of. this

23:50

is mostly the police. Believed to be

23:52

the beginning of a suicide note. The.

23:55

Beginning of this know said. To. Everyone.

23:58

From. Dead. Emma. God, I

24:00

don't know. anybody don't really start. That on

24:02

know either. But. Not just that the also

24:04

found notes that him have felt like see was being

24:06

followed. But she didn't know who

24:09

or what it was. So.

24:11

Her gone in now the shelter. Looking.

24:14

Around turn a voice on one. Either.

24:16

She was paranoid or there was

24:18

someone actually stockinger. It's.

24:21

A kind of thing I knew. But.

24:24

He was cleared. Anyway, Then.

24:26

After that he of there was really nothing. Until

24:29

May have two thousand and fourteen

24:31

solos. Both. Like two years and

24:33

was a year and a half. their. A

24:36

store owner and guess down. Gas.

24:38

To have a gas cloud as

24:40

a luxury roads on other. Sorry.

24:42

G S T O W in

24:45

gusto Gaston. Gaston. Will.

24:47

Go with yes. That's. When a

24:49

store owner and Gaston a neighborhood of

24:51

being coover. Reported. A man that

24:53

came in wearing jeans and a green shirt. Now.

24:56

Before we get into that, we're going to take a

24:58

quick break. This is our last one so don't go

25:00

nowhere. Aren't welcome back.

25:03

That's. When a store owner and Gaston

25:05

a neighborhood of Vancouver. Reported.

25:07

A man that came in wearing jeans and a green

25:09

shirt. He. Had walked into the store.

25:12

With. A criminal piece of paper in his hand,

25:15

The. Paper was one of the missing person

25:17

posters of Emma. And this

25:19

man came in agitated. And

25:21

he was like complain about all the posters everywhere. Special

25:24

explain to the store owner since I guess he had

25:26

a bunch on his window. The. Store

25:28

owner said that this man came in. And

25:30

was. Quoted saying. It's. One

25:32

of those missing person posters. Except she's

25:34

not missing. Sees my girlfriend and she ran

25:37

away because he hates her parents. Were.

25:39

Initiated parents. Not. To

25:41

promote it's allies, you loved her parents. Some like

25:43

that guy was his mental. As

25:45

we see my foot, this man was

25:47

never identified or found. Which.

25:50

They did in opposing poses of this guide to

25:52

try to find them. Which. I have

25:54

a picture that. Would. Is a weird that

25:56

he would come in. Grasping. As I

25:58

go this my girlfriend. Yeah. Jeans.

26:01

And greens are. Literally. But like

26:03

good photos of his face. Or. Not

26:05

a quality. Player: That was that

26:07

guy. Now. That's honestly pretty much

26:09

where it ends. Walks.

26:11

Worse Wag. They really put that

26:13

on the poster. Walks. With this

26:15

way. A camera. They put

26:18

that on that poster. Reason. Is

26:20

thirty? Where's height of shoes and sunglasses on his

26:22

head? He's always wearing sunglasses

26:24

on a it. That's it you're for. And.

26:26

He walks with a sweat shirts were.

26:29

Wait, Left knee and put turn inward

26:31

when walking. His tattoos

26:34

on both forearms possibly flames.

26:36

Ah, Ok, Now I

26:38

did find some strange facts. Looking.

26:41

Into this. To some stuff. That.

26:43

Was reported later on about. Them

26:46

are. In our family. So.

26:48

A decade and a half earlier. She.

26:50

Began showing signs of mental illness. Supposedly.

26:53

She would engage in compulsive rituals. This.

26:56

Would include arranging objects into patterns.

26:59

Her. Symptoms would worsen over the years, including

27:01

showing signs of depression and paranoia. as

27:04

well as severely restricting her diet. And.

27:07

The months and years leading up to her disappearance. Emma.

27:09

Largely kept herself and even shielded away

27:11

from disclosing her whereabouts to her family.

27:14

Was. Told her mom where she was that. Was.

27:16

Wasn't living there though. Oh. Okay,

27:18

so she actually lie dormant about oh yeah I'm saying

27:20

here and all that, but she was actually thing at

27:23

a women's shelter. Her mother though

27:25

was a psycho. Yeah, M has always been

27:27

that way so he's not an not a new.

27:29

She was always private, but. I

27:31

think it might have gotten worse in recent years. So.

27:34

Pretty much. She. Was already showing

27:36

signs of not be okay. So.

27:39

I guess letting her. Leave. Was

27:41

probably not the best idea. She could

27:43

do what she wants, but. I. Mean, you

27:45

can suggest that she doesn't, but ultimately

27:48

she's for you. Do whatever. The

27:50

probably restricted everything she did. Because.

27:53

They were probably worried about her so she wanted

27:55

her own freedom legacy that near. Then.

27:57

The next thing I found out. Wasn't.

28:00

Sixteen. Shelley and

28:02

was mom. And. Them

28:04

as brother matt. Were.

28:06

Arrested on charges related to drugs

28:09

and weapons offenses. Now.

28:11

But charges were dropped against Shelley.

28:14

Because. Cel. He was unaware that her son

28:16

was using her house to store cocaine and

28:18

weapons. Nice. So. I

28:20

guess that would explain why. It.

28:22

Was siblings probably didn't. Really help

28:24

searching for the. Obviously. A brother

28:26

was in the some bad shit he doesn't cocaine

28:28

help them stay awake and his weapons to hunt

28:31

down the. People. Who stole his sister?

28:33

Voice. I don't have the job. Or. Mean he's in

28:36

jail so I guess? ah. Well. Yeah, that's

28:38

pretty much all I was able to find for strange

28:40

facts. But it's. A very

28:42

interesting. His appearance, Who.

28:45

Do you think took her. Or where do you think

28:47

she went? He thinks she was kidnapped. You think she

28:49

just went on the run? Do you think she committed? Suicide.

28:52

In his two bodies out there in

28:54

the unknown. Eating. She's a

28:56

roaming around homeless person that I honestly

28:58

do believe that she might have been

29:01

kidnapped. But. Then again it to the paranoia. Bites.

29:04

Only way I'm thinking napping is because that beginning

29:06

of that supposed to As I know. To.

29:08

Everyone from Dead Emma. I've

29:11

realized on else wrote that. Yeah. And

29:13

you figure they probably would have. A dusty to

29:15

for fingerprints or something like that. I'm guessing they

29:17

didn't find anything. But. Near

29:20

the theories were like wow plays i'm a talker.

29:22

Them. Are committed suicide or. Maybe.

29:25

The gonna greens are was right. She hated

29:27

repairs for keeping her. And. Parts for

29:29

so long as he actually got freedom. She.

29:31

Bought with herself lane you know maybe I do

29:33

want to go back home is different but then

29:35

again. I like it here. So.

29:38

She ended up making herself disappear by

29:40

choice. Maybe. Or.

29:43

Maybe she was a part of a

29:45

top secret program where they selected single.

29:48

Women: And. as soon

29:50

as certain psychedelic drugs on them.

29:53

You know as thinking, you know how long. I.

29:55

Want is a gang stalking but. It's.

29:57

Ringing stock. Here's why I say.

30:00

That. He. Will get the year. If

30:02

you look at the time frame you look at the

30:04

location. Is. Or anything that similar to

30:06

that. Yes, There.

30:08

Is a very notable case that sense similar

30:10

to that. There. Is a woman.

30:13

From. British Columbia. In January

30:15

of two thousand and thirteen when to

30:17

l A and then went missing. And

30:19

then three weeks later, she was found

30:21

in that water tank above the hotel.

30:24

We swam. What? Was she

30:26

doing before that? She's. Being paranoid

30:28

in an elevator looking out.

30:30

True. Her. Actions in the way

30:32

she was acting weeks prior before she

30:34

ended up. Committing suicide or whatever happened

30:36

to her. You know, we know she died

30:39

in the water tank, but. Weeks.

30:41

Prior. She. Would leave notes

30:43

to her roommate seen go home or

30:45

go way that made no sense. She

30:48

actually attended a live taping of Conan

30:50

and was escorted off the premises. or

30:52

her disruptive behavior. That's right, They.

30:55

Painted her as being depressive in

30:57

the. Have in bipolar

30:59

Disorder. But. What if? There's

31:02

this organization out there were

31:04

this project. That. Locates women

31:06

in their twenties that are single.

31:08

And a drug them secretly to

31:10

watch how they react. And

31:13

after their drug that makes them paranoid

31:15

and eventually commit suicide. The testing

31:17

ground. Lisa. Lamb was a part of the test.

31:20

Emma fill a booth. She was a part of

31:22

it. That's. What I think happened to her. It

31:24

sounds crazy, but has there been a lot

31:26

more crazier things? And that. They. Happened

31:28

In this world. You. Know. I'm

31:31

looking at the amount of people that

31:33

have been that went missing in British

31:35

Columbia. How. Many of them are single women.

31:38

In the twenties. So. Not only if

31:40

there's single. Was. Going The females.

31:42

Yeah, the spoon. Mean.

31:45

Is. A decent amount. I'd

31:47

say cause. In. Two. Thousand

31:50

and twelve alone. Twenty. Three people

31:52

went missing in British Columbia. Guess

31:54

how many. Be. Prior year into

31:56

those eleven. Two

31:58

hundred. Now. Sony. With

32:01

a lot of people, one misses. The. The year

32:03

before that, to the tune with Thirty One, Two

32:06

Thousand Nine was fourteen. It

32:08

looks like it was ramping up. To.

32:10

Two Thousand Eleventh. For.

32:12

How many people missing it in after that is sort of the

32:14

drop off. Which is very

32:16

interesting. There's a top

32:19

secret organization out there that secretly

32:21

testing. Certain. Chemicals and

32:23

Operations in. Things.

32:26

On human beings to see how they react.

32:29

And. They're doing it secretly. A seem

32:31

like a lot of them went missing in the second half of

32:33

the year. Yeah, in the second

32:35

half of the year of two thousand and

32:37

Twelve is when most of these disappearances. Happened.

32:40

They. Will maybe there was something on on

32:42

their. Well. If. You are

32:44

a loved one! Know where Emma

32:46

S. is located at. You.

32:49

Can call Victoria Police it to buy

32:51

though nine, nine five seven six five

32:53

four or. You. Can send us an

32:55

email at Aaron a aura when at theory

32:58

that that they're gonna com or dan de

33:00

a in a series of the third kind

33:02

that com. We. Would love to hear from you.

33:05

At right. So. That's my theory

33:07

Thursday. I. Can say really love the fact

33:09

that these people are missing but I like the mystery of.

33:11

It's. Try. To figure out been

33:13

pieced together? Yes. And this one. I

33:16

was previously gonna do this last series. There's

33:18

a. So. I kept this one. That.

33:20

Try to find more information on it. But.

33:22

It's like after two thousand and fourteen.

33:25

Other. Than like stuff with her family. Is

33:27

like they kind of just gave up. Well. I'm.

33:30

Glad you did it because it puts more

33:32

awareness out there of the. Missing.

33:34

Person. Yeah, hopefully.

33:36

She safe wherever she, that. Hopefully

33:39

she just decided to makers of Go Missing

33:41

In Jesus Live In Life. Yeah.

33:43

And I wish my theories Thursday

33:46

topic. Was. A little lighter, But.

33:48

It's not. A before I do to

33:50

have anything else you wanna add to yours. Know.

33:53

Or it was. It Will thank you for your theories.

33:56

there's a topic this week Then I enjoyed it. You're.

33:58

Welcome. Or. The

34:00

like I said. My theories Thursday

34:03

topic this week is probably

34:05

one of the most disturbing

34:07

stories oh that I had

34:09

ever covered. And. That is

34:11

saying a lot. Because. I have

34:13

researched a lot of disturbing stories. And.

34:16

This one take the crown. I.

34:18

Could not believe it once I read it. I thought

34:20

it was fake. And after researching and

34:22

do it. I. Thought to myself. How

34:25

have I not heard about this? Listener

34:27

discretion. Absolutely. I

34:29

just saw the name of it. Storage. Yeah.

34:33

I don't know lot about it, I just. You. Heard

34:35

me mention it won't I heard you mention it wasn't like

34:37

a week or two ago. Be an artist like. The.

34:40

Listener discretion for sure. Or

34:43

it. So. To start my topic

34:45

off this week. We. First need

34:47

to talk about shipping containers.

34:50

Ak. A C. Lands. So.

34:53

There are containers called sea lions.

34:56

And I'm sure everyone has seen one before.

34:58

They are still containers that are

35:00

pretty much big rectangle that are

35:02

hollow on the inside. They.

35:05

Are twenty feet long, Eight. Feet

35:07

wide and eight feet tall. Now.

35:10

These still containers are used pretty

35:12

much around the world for people

35:14

to load various stuff into and

35:16

in. That containers are pretty much

35:18

picked up and loaded onto like

35:20

a ship, a truck, or pretty

35:22

much anything. And. Then it's

35:24

taken wherever it's needed. And

35:26

are these. See lands are used

35:29

all over the world. And

35:31

I will provide a pitcher of one of

35:33

them on our website. If. For

35:35

some odd reason, you don't know what they look

35:37

like. You can go to theories of the third

35:39

kind.com. The. Corner episode today. And

35:41

there will be a picture of a blue sealand and

35:43

I know I don't have to show you a bitter

35:46

of the and you've tons of I'm So my question

35:48

is. I still never figure this

35:50

out as many times I've. Added go in

35:52

and out of sea lanes are stealing. Or. The

35:54

sea lions are see bands see lands ceilings.

35:56

yeah I got Obe as well. Bass.

35:59

Though back. The A be. Began

36:01

by big as box like bet.

36:04

Know. Gay to see Lance. We.

36:07

All know what those are. Now let's get

36:09

into the next part of the story. So.

36:11

There's a company called

36:13

Martin Container Company. And.

36:15

They are the oldest and largest

36:17

container company on the west coast,

36:19

where the Imogen. Martin.

36:21

Container Company or Content. In

36:24

the mid nineteen seventies, the

36:26

owner of Martin Container Company.

36:28

Nick Martin. He. Began

36:31

marketing is sealand containers.

36:33

Not. Only as being used for

36:35

shipping stuff. But. Also.

36:38

To. Be used as storage units.

36:41

So. People would rent the see lands. Take

36:43

him to wherever they want. They could even be at your

36:45

house. You can store your stuff in it and just leave

36:47

it there. And. You just pay a rental fee. Now.

36:51

This ended up taking off and people

36:53

started doing just that. They would rent

36:55

the see lands. And. You them

36:57

as you know, swords, containers. Paying.

36:59

A set amount of rent, To. The

37:02

Martin Container Company. We.

37:04

Would They were much to look at, but. I mean

37:06

they were big, they got the job done, Or

37:09

it So now that we know that. Let's. Fast

37:11

forward to the year of Nineteen

37:13

eighty. During this time

37:15

the Martin Container Company received a

37:17

phone call. From. An

37:19

individual named Melvin Weisberg.

37:23

Now. Melvin was a thirty one year old

37:25

man. Who had been living in Los

37:27

Angeles for quite awhile. And

37:29

does Since Nineteen Seventy

37:31

Six, he had operated

37:34

Medical Analytic Laboratories in

37:36

Santa Monica. Also.

37:38

Melvin owned a very nice

37:40

house in the upscale neighborhood

37:43

of the Woodland Hills Country

37:45

Club. Is. Home had a

37:47

long driveway that wrapped around the back

37:49

of his house. And at the

37:51

back of house is where he had his

37:53

own tennis courts at. A fancy.

37:56

Yeah, so needless to say, Melvin

37:58

was doing pretty well. Financially.

38:01

Pretty well you don't very very

38:03

very well. Yeah, how many people do you

38:05

know have their own tennis courts? Zero.

38:09

Fame? I don't know anyone. Or

38:11

it. So like I said earlier, it's nineteen

38:14

eighty. Malvin called up the Martin

38:16

Container Company and said hey, I.

38:18

Want to see land delivered to my

38:20

home? So. That I could use

38:22

it as a storage container. For.

38:24

My tennis court lights. So.

38:27

He wants to store is a lights and side

38:29

of their an overkill but whatever. So.

38:31

A few days later, the container company

38:33

delivered a twenty foot by a foot

38:36

by eat. but. Standard. Size

38:38

Sealand. Them. Albums: House.

38:41

And. Placed next. To. His tennis

38:43

courts. Malvin. Wrote a

38:45

seventeen hundred dollar check. That. The company.

38:48

And. They ended up leaving. A

38:50

short time later the container

38:52

company noticed that melvin seventeen

38:54

hundred dollar check. His

38:56

best. Meaning that it was not

38:59

good. For.

39:01

The next. Two years.

39:04

To. The. Container Company tried

39:06

to reach Malvin to get payment.

39:09

For. The Container. As well as

39:11

the mist previous payments because you have to

39:14

pay monthly on that thing. Was.

39:16

It so it's empty Hundred dollars a month

39:18

or that. Just like the initial thing deliver.

39:20

he paid the seventeen hundred dollars which was

39:23

the initial delivery see and a year in

39:25

total of rent. With

39:27

that, check bounced. So. The

39:29

people kept trying to com kept running com couldn't

39:31

get a hold of him. And. Then

39:33

finally after two years they were

39:36

like a Nelson Us. So.

39:38

On February Fourth. Nineteen Eighty

39:40

Two. A. Truck was sent along

39:42

with the driver. To Malvin

39:45

home to repossess. The

39:47

Sealand. Repeatedly would have done that

39:50

way earlier. Yeah, you figured. The.

39:52

Truck that was sent included

39:54

a rig to slide the

39:56

box up onto rails with

39:58

a winch. And winch one

40:01

of the winters that are electric ones. Ah,

40:03

but still. I mean even that with the

40:05

Sealand No way. The driver

40:07

got out of his truck. Book. The see

40:09

land up. Tried. To win should

40:11

up. With. The which ended up

40:13

breaking because of the container was to

40:16

as he. Shortly. After that.

40:18

A dog came out of nowhere

40:20

and attack the sure I for.

40:23

Biting him and he had to run and

40:25

get back in his truck. He.

40:28

Eventually called Animal Control who came and

40:30

the to care of the dog. And

40:33

then he called Nick Martin, the owner of

40:35

the Container Company and said hey Nick Container

40:38

them trying to pick up here the and

40:40

trying to repossess. It's. Too heavy, It

40:42

broke the which. Would. You want Me to?

40:45

do? Next phone. And said hey,

40:47

stay right there I'm going to get another

40:49

truck the com to load that container of.

40:52

A short time later a second truck arrived

40:54

at the home in it had a clean

40:56

on. The cream lifted the

40:58

container of. The see and

41:00

placed it. On. Top of

41:02

the original Guys truck. Pretty. Much

41:04

on the bed of it, The. Container was been

41:06

taken back to the Martin Container Yard.

41:09

Where. The company stores all of their sealand

41:11

that. Now. The Martin

41:13

Container Yard didn't have a crane

41:16

to list. The heavier sealand

41:18

off of the bed of the truck. So.

41:21

They decided to leave it there overnight. They

41:23

were gonna have people come the next day

41:25

in a workers unload. The. See land

41:27

and then they could have smaller crane com in

41:29

that they had to unload it. So.

41:31

The following day to employees

41:34

Hank Stoke and Ron Gillette.

41:37

Real. Name runs. let's say. They.

41:39

Were told by their boss neck

41:41

to hey, go unload that sealand

41:43

container that we repossessed yesterday. And.

41:46

The after you unload it. Remove. It

41:48

from the better the truck. And stored

41:50

away. Their. Like okay. Now.

41:53

I have an audio clip. From. An

41:55

interview that was done And that?

41:57

it's an interview with. Nick.

42:00

The boss. And. We're gonna

42:02

listen to that and they're going to tell us

42:04

what happened. I'm

42:06

Susan repositioning as his eyes checked

42:09

not gonna make A'm, so we

42:11

sent a check out to pick

42:14

up the container, roll out there.

42:17

So. The parts of. Them. Are

42:19

sorry for the love. And

42:22

loss. Of Lives. So that is

42:24

your saw it Roka What the which? And.

42:27

We couldn't get it off to trailer so we had to leave

42:29

it on the trailer to as it was too heavy. So.

42:33

I was asked by Nick to. Have.

42:35

Approval down. And unload the

42:37

container at the other yard. I

42:40

got a radio call it

42:42

from runs allows the foreman.

42:46

Throwing up and him or really wrong one of

42:48

who fell down and hit me right in front

42:50

of my feet. And

42:53

was opened up. And

42:56

there was. A

42:58

new later bodies and amorphous I looked

43:01

at it was the human body. Wash

43:05

I'm a workaholic day. I

43:07

I saw myself sides of

43:09

the way that as this

43:12

was a movie. Saving Synopsis:

43:14

All Four Seasons has softball

43:17

arms. Lays this. This

43:20

is mister says see some or. All

43:24

roses and on national our privacy

43:27

Subtle I started. I

43:36

really don't want to witnesses again. Not.

43:39

Not what I saw. So.

43:41

Like they said, When. The workers

43:43

opened up the doors to the

43:46

see lands. They. Were overwhelmed

43:48

with the stance of

43:50

detained human flesh. When.

43:53

They looked inside. The. Saw

43:55

bodies of dead babies thrown

43:57

around. There were. Open.

44:00

And plastic buckets with blood coming

44:03

out of them. And

44:05

this was in the entire

44:07

Sealand. Field wall to

44:10

wall. With. The boxes

44:12

and plastic buckets. Of

44:14

mutilated bodies. And. Mutilated

44:17

parts of children and

44:19

babies. They. Are.

44:21

Like I said, it's an extremely

44:24

disturbing story. And the. It

44:26

just gets worse. Only they are to say though is. Why

44:29

that music choice? Yeah no Rb music

44:31

that the background? Yeah. right?

44:33

So after seeing this. The

44:36

container Company called the police

44:38

and the health department. Immediately

44:41

an investigation was started.

44:44

The. Following day on February

44:46

Fifth. Nineteen Eighty Two.

44:49

The L A County Health Department

44:51

held a press conference. At.

44:53

This press conference they stated that.

44:56

Of the five hundred bodies of

44:58

dead children and babies, Were.

45:00

Found. Inside of the

45:02

see land and that they are

45:04

currently investigating what happened. Nineteen.

45:07

Days later, On. February Twenty

45:09

Fourth, Nineteen Eighty Two. Another.

45:12

Conference was held. And.

45:14

That body count went up to

45:16

two thousand. Finally,

45:19

In. May have nineteen. Eighty Two.

45:21

The entire story came

45:24

out. Along. With

45:26

the final. Number of dead

45:28

children that were found. An.

45:30

Exact tally was done. And

45:33

in total. There. Were

45:35

sixteen thousand Four Hundred and

45:37

Thirty one dead bodies of

45:39

children inside of the Sealand

45:42

How many? Sixteen Thousand Four

45:44

Hundred and Thirty One. One.

45:47

Hundred and ninety three of them

45:50

were fetuses that were over twelve

45:52

weeks and development. With. Some

45:54

of them. Being almost

45:56

thirty weeks in development. So.

46:00

What the investigation discovered

46:02

is that Malvin Weisberg,

46:06

the guy who rented the storage sealand

46:08

for his tennis court lights, had

46:11

operated medical analytic lab in Santa

46:13

Monica from 1976 until it went

46:15

bankrupt in March of 1981. A

46:22

significant part of that business,

46:25

of the lab, was to

46:27

conduct exams on

46:29

bodies of unborn babies and

46:32

children from clinics in

46:34

Los Angeles and surrounding areas.

46:38

Malvin was not a certified doctor, so

46:41

he hired an individual named Milo

46:43

Alado. Milo was

46:46

a pathologist from the Philippines

46:49

who had been a physician for the

46:51

United States military in the past. So

46:54

Malvin's lab would get these children

46:56

who had passed away, Milo

46:58

would then perform the exams on them,

47:01

and then they would store the

47:04

bodies inside of plastic buckets that

47:06

were filled with formaldehyde. However,

47:09

they started running out of plastic pockets,

47:11

so they started placing them into cardboard

47:13

boxes. And

47:16

then the lab started running out

47:18

of space to place these buckets

47:20

in bodies. And

47:23

individuals working at the lab started complaining

47:25

about the smell of the

47:27

dead children. So

47:30

Malvin decided to order a sealand container,

47:33

have it delivered to his home. He

47:36

moved all of the buckets filled with

47:38

the bodies into this container, eventually

47:41

throughout the week as he would finish up work.

47:45

Every Thursday or Friday he would bring

47:47

additional buckets or boxes of bodies and

47:50

place them into his

47:52

garage when he's walking into his home. And

47:54

then eventually after he got tired of the

47:56

smell he would take those out

47:59

of his garage and load them up into

48:01

the sea land. There were

48:03

300 extra bodies that were discovered inside of his garage,

48:05

by the way, of children. Needless

48:08

to say, what Malvin was doing was

48:10

illegal. In Los

48:12

Angeles, you could not burn bodies

48:15

due to a strict LA air pollution law

48:17

that was passed in the late 1970s. So

48:21

what Malvin was supposed to do with

48:23

these bodies after the

48:25

exams was to bury

48:27

them properly or ship

48:31

them somewhere out of the area

48:33

to have them cremated. However,

48:36

Malvin did not want to spend the money

48:38

on doing that, so instead he just tossed

48:41

them into the storage container.

48:44

Now you would figure that Malvin would

48:47

be charged and arrested, right? Yeah.

48:50

I mean he was clearly in violation of

48:52

state laws regarding the storage of, and I

48:54

quote, human waste, even though it's

48:56

bodies, it's considered improper storage

48:58

of human waste. However,

49:00

he was never prosecuted. Was anybody

49:03

charged or prosecuted? Nope.

49:05

That's crazy, right? Over 16,000

49:07

in the sea land. Yeah.

49:11

300 or plus more in his garage. 16,400-ish

49:14

in the sea land and then an extra 300 in his garage.

49:16

So we can just round it up to 17,000. But

49:21

so in regards to what happened to the bodies, Los

49:24

Angeles County now had possession of them.

49:27

The county started debating on how to

49:29

dispose of them. They

49:31

decided to cram the over 16,000 bodies

49:34

into several large pine

49:36

boxes and bury them

49:39

at Odd Fellow Cemetery on October 6,

49:41

1985. So

49:44

that is the story that I have this week. The

49:47

Los Angeles storage container

49:49

scandal that no one talks about. And

49:52

I do have a couple of strange

49:55

facts and theories. All right, let me ask

49:57

you this. The bodies were discovered in 1982.

50:00

Mm-hmm. They didn't bury the

50:02

bodies until 1985. Yep. There's

50:05

a big controversy over What

50:07

should be done with the bodies? So it took them three years

50:10

Yeah, a lot of these groups started

50:12

suing the county like the abortion rights

50:14

groups and all of that and it

50:16

was just a big mess Yeah. All

50:18

right. So Malvin

50:20

Weisberg is Supposedly

50:23

still alive and

50:25

he runs a privacy corporation

50:27

on Ventura Boulevard in Woodland

50:30

Hills So he is very good

50:32

at hiding himself Because I

50:34

could not find much more information about him.

50:37

And I bet he changed his name I know I would

50:39

have but then again, I wouldn't be that big of a

50:41

piece of shit that he is. Yeah also

50:45

one more strange fact in finding After

50:47

the contents aka the dead

50:50

children were transferred to the

50:52

county The Martin

50:54

container company cleaned out that sealand you want

50:56

to know what they did with it Probably

50:58

put it back out for being rented. Yes

51:01

They tried to give the container

51:03

to a little league in the

51:05

Los Angeles area and

51:08

the little leaguers Rejected it because

51:10

it smelled bad So

51:12

that's my strange facts and findings. I got a

51:14

couple theories which Typical

51:16

one elite sacrifices. This is all

51:19

just an example of the elites

51:21

sacrificing children whether it be

51:23

for adrenochrome or Their

51:26

nefarious purposes of doing their sacrifices to

51:28

whatever God or deities that they believe

51:30

in and then somehow these

51:32

containers got mixed up And into the

51:34

wrong hands That's one

51:36

of the theories. Okay. The next theory

51:38

is that this entire story

51:42

was all made up By

51:44

churches in the area to

51:46

push an anti-abortion bill Mmm,

51:49

which it's not made up because

51:51

I ended up coming across the photographs

51:53

of the the sealand after they unloaded

51:56

it I'm not gonna post

51:58

those photographs on our website there extremely

52:00

disturbing. However, if you

52:03

want to find it, all you have to do is type in

52:05

1982 Los Angeles Sealand

52:07

Scandal and go to Google

52:09

Images and they're all right there. But

52:12

trust me, you don't want to see them. They're

52:15

horrible. But then again, I'm not going

52:17

to tell you what to do with your own life. Do

52:19

what you want. It's just, I'm not

52:21

going to be looking at it. Yeah, Daddy Aaron's trying to give you

52:23

some advice. I'll listen. But

52:25

there you go. That right there

52:27

is my theories Thursday topic this week.

52:29

It's extremely disturbing, but I hope you

52:32

enjoyed it. I enjoyed

52:34

it. But I would say, if anything, they

52:36

were doing the testing on it. Melvin just

52:38

got lazy. They were doing the

52:40

testing on the on the children and that

52:42

had passed away and Melvin got lazy. He

52:45

got lazy with considering if he used

52:47

the Sealand, they could probably use that

52:49

to ship them out to cremate the

52:51

body somewhere. Well, they were already struggling as a business and

52:53

then they ended up going bankrupt in 1981. So

52:56

lazy and going broke. Yeah. He

52:59

got the Sealand in 1980 and then they went

53:01

bankrupt and closed down in 81. The

53:04

business started in 78,

53:07

76. Oh, also, it

53:10

reminded me, some individuals started doing

53:12

some digging into the financials of that company.

53:15

And they discovered that the

53:17

government had made a bunch

53:20

of payments to that medical

53:22

company, like a lot of payments. And

53:26

you have the pathologist who used to

53:28

work for the United States government. So

53:31

maybe it was some weird testing program that they

53:33

were doing on children's bodies or

53:36

something. I don't know. That

53:38

almost makes me think that Melvin probably was

53:40

lazy. Yeah. The elites or

53:42

whoever were doing the testing on

53:44

the bodies, they used Melvin's

53:47

company to try to help them dispose of

53:49

the stuff as they were supposedly doing tests

53:51

on them. And instead of

53:53

Melvin actually shipping them out to be cremated

53:55

or have them buried, he pocketed

53:57

all the money. And that pretty much,

54:00

much screwed the company over. So pretty

54:02

much it was probably just during that time that they needed,

54:04

they were doing something. I don't know

54:06

if any that time had like some ritual like

54:09

events or some shit like that. That's

54:11

sickening, honestly. It is. I

54:14

have no idea how I have not heard of

54:16

this story before. Have you? No,

54:19

like that's something that should should

54:21

be taught in schools is hey, don't be like

54:23

Malvin brought to school or at least

54:26

know more about. Yeah. The

54:29

injustice of our justice system. Malvin

54:32

should have been locked up for life. He should have

54:34

been riding the lightning. The fact that no one got

54:36

prosecuted or anything is very disturbing.

54:39

Yeah. Well, with that being said, I

54:41

don't have anything else I would like to add to my

54:43

theories Thursday topic. I hope you

54:45

and well not really enjoyed it, but I hope you

54:47

thought it was entertaining. It was very informing. I'm

54:50

glad I could inform you of a

54:53

subject and everybody else. And if you are a

54:55

loved one, have any more

54:57

information regarding this topic or

54:59

information regarding where Emma

55:01

S is located, please

55:03

send us an email. We would love to hear from you.

55:06

That's right. But with that being said, you have anything else

55:08

you would like to add to today's episode, Dan? I

55:11

wish they were like lighter topics. Yeah. Well,

55:14

join our Patreon for five bucks a month. We

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55:20

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55:23

You can go check that out. But with that being said,

55:25

I want to thank you for joining us today. And

55:27

again, thank you for your support. You

55:30

are all amazing. Every single

55:32

one of you. So with

55:34

that being said, Dan, you want to roll us

55:36

out? Sure. Well, it's

55:38

okay to be out of this world with your thoughts because

55:41

you are not alone. Boom.

55:52

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