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Hi everyone. I'm so excited about today's

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episode because I hope it's a breath

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of fresh air and one that it

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quits you to take appropriate next steps

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in your counseling journey no matter where

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you currently are. You know we get

1:11

questions all the time via email and

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on are you to page asking about

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how to find a good counsellor, what

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to expect, dinner first appointment and what

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do you do if you can't afford

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accounts or and so many more questions?

1:24

So before we get into the content

1:26

today I want to let you know

1:28

that our. Team has put together a

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helpful listener guide that you can download

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for free using the late in the

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show. Know now, let's dive into some

1:37

of those questions. Are. Right? First

1:39

of all, whoever wants to go first, I'm

1:41

assuming it might be a gym. Good!

1:43

How. Do I find Accounts are

1:45

and what prudential should I be

1:47

looking for? Okay we should to

1:49

be brief illness I'm sure we will try. One.

1:52

Is simply just do your own due

1:54

diligence Run this I find that is

1:56

lacking Often know you may want to

1:58

find a friend or somebody. We go to

2:00

find her. Benefits. Like we've

2:03

recommended acc.net. The. On

2:05

part of the your part, the American Association

2:07

of Christian Cancers. But. Who. I

2:09

want you to really use of you, can

2:11

the social media, the internet and go many

2:14

servers have their bio's the and some of

2:16

their. On. You tube don't have some

2:18

of their own videos. You can watch them in action.

2:21

Read. Find out what they do. And.

2:24

And you just have to do due diligence.

2:26

We're in an age now. Where is all

2:28

virtual counseling and last changing. Their. We

2:30

can council across state lines that you might

2:32

find someone who's not just in your area.

2:34

but really? Good after it research.

2:37

Take the time to read. And.

2:39

Also one of my seems I use a lot

2:41

is. I'm. Encouraging you to be

2:43

willing to if you're going to try to pay

2:45

for counseling. To. Find Someone De Niro down.

2:47

I think this is a person I want to see.

2:50

And. By session with him vs Can I

2:52

get twenty minutes of your time? A mini

2:54

good therapist Now the were selling that global

2:56

mental health pandemic were swamped. So the same

2:58

by assessing the what I've narrowed it down.

3:01

I think you're the one and see what

3:03

you're willing to do with. Those are some

3:05

things that Due Diligence read study do get

3:07

lose more recommendations out on the internet the

3:09

you've gotta go meet that person. You

3:11

know what thing that I found as think

3:14

of the topic that. You want to enter

3:16

as are you wanna? Start with an. Arm

3:18

I really enjoy a set instagram

3:20

accounts. were there fiscal dell? I'm

3:22

and they're so pissing on this

3:24

one topic. And when they saw

3:27

this on the topic, I can quickly look

3:29

at somebody as. Whether it's heated, instagram mean

3:31

or whatever and I can kind of palace

3:33

I wouldn't sell with that person. or and

3:35

when it. So. The

3:37

question that I have been is

3:40

I found some when. I

3:42

really like their advice of what the Pentagon on.

3:44

Social media but what credentials tiny to

3:46

make sure they have is that important?

3:48

Is it not important like when a

3:50

when he didn't looking for beyond. Just

3:52

the helpful advice. And I'm seen on. Online.

3:55

I think it's important to my

3:57

experiences that there lot of people

3:59

that can do a great job

4:01

on the pastoral level. My. Wife

4:03

is just as a board certified mental

4:06

health couch. And. I've put her

4:08

up against most therapists with her wisdom. She's

4:10

done her own work. On My point around

4:12

that is there are life coaches in people

4:14

who can do a really good jobs when

4:16

you're thinking to go knowing your own store

4:18

a little bit down the road. Other professional

4:20

cancer. Look for masters level.

4:23

I. Would look for people who were licensed

4:25

they might be have a masters and they

4:27

may or M S what are the could

4:29

divide the little known as symbols that you'll

4:31

see as a letter. Yeah so and this

4:34

area may is a Master of arts. Are

4:36

you see that in like professional counselor What?

4:38

as as as they've done a lot of

4:40

their work they've done the psychology work Hopefully

4:42

it's christian of not their supplemental otherwise they

4:44

know the clinical things to work for. Fisher

4:46

said open up your life L P C

4:48

in some states licensed professional counselor I'm that

4:51

I'm also a licensed clinical mental health counselor

4:53

because I'm licensed. In more than one

4:55

stay Phd if you to get some great

4:57

psychological testing more than a simple enough ram

4:59

test out that against that yes is that's

5:01

where you can go in and taken him

5:04

in p I The cadillac of all psychological

5:06

tests. Feel. Like to blood for a

5:08

P C and indeed all psychiatry wrists

5:10

are indeed. Who can describe Nasa medicine

5:12

caped? I don't send a lot of

5:15

people to psychiatry as because Asian will

5:17

have the time and then with and

5:19

will send them to a psychiatrist for

5:21

ongoing therapy. So. M A

5:24

Phd. And. Then and then

5:26

that Md and then also looking at. Does

5:28

the person have some other potentials?

5:31

Many of us have a lot of

5:33

certificates and certifications and training. While.

5:35

We call a Trauma Inform therapists, people

5:37

who are trained and other modalities. You'll

5:39

see their right on their website. Yeah.

5:42

Was an attack that ten mean ten when I

5:44

found that one. Of your specialty is

5:46

as a trail trauma because. I

5:48

knew that was a specific thing that

5:50

I wanted to address. Hell obviously that

5:52

was a door that opens up my

5:54

desire that urgent need for me to

5:57

get into therapy. And we said that

5:59

the some that. What about that? Then

6:01

there were so many other things that opened

6:03

up. it's like oh, actually there's some things

6:05

that I need to work on and you

6:07

were able to help me. But often when

6:10

Dr. civil to a counsellor is. The

6:12

urgency of hand point in their

6:14

eyes. And so is. You know

6:16

you want bats and specific have then

6:18

go after. A cancer is to simply

6:20

trained in. That. And like

6:22

you said, where's things opening up

6:25

so much online? This is a

6:27

real possibility. Or no matter where

6:29

you live there. Sex addiction therapists

6:31

and betrayal trauma therapists. Name

6:34

some of the others that you paint

6:36

may be good category Some people I

6:38

love wire fences. Calling from his family

6:40

systems obviously an element to use the

6:42

license version family there was the really

6:45

trains unique Iran marriage around therapy. You.

6:47

Have he of tea mostly Focus therapy

6:49

was sued Johnson doctor grammarly we've talked

6:51

about I'm a Garmin trained therapist to

6:53

use that part of the Gottman method.

6:56

I'm very at elected. Gods. Ago

6:58

wisdom so more of a cafeteria plan

7:00

I borrow from this. I get trained

7:02

in this. I get trained in that

7:04

to their when uses many tools my

7:06

two kids as I go along but

7:08

Cmdr what we call brain spotting disease

7:10

or powerful. Almost. Miraculous breakthroughs of

7:12

what is doing to help. Heal.

7:15

Trauma. Those are things somatic experiences to

7:17

so some of the word for body.

7:20

Helping. People be in touch with what's

7:22

going on which is almost the last

7:24

frontier. Be right, I'm going all the

7:26

side to education, scripture things, therapy, but

7:28

are you aware of your body so

7:30

what's going on there? But those are

7:32

a few. and get a simple google

7:34

search of. Don't. Get overwhelmed as

7:36

you in different psychotherapies, different approaches

7:38

in counseling things are out there.

7:41

Take what you can use and leave the

7:43

rest of them I think something that's important.

7:46

They're also and with my back on as

7:48

an academic and with the algae feeds the

7:50

and all that is understanding specialties and so

7:52

I'll give an example than related to you

7:55

is somebody came to me. I have a

7:57

Phd in theology with an emphasis in Biblical

7:59

Diaz. The G particularly and and let Paul's

8:01

letter to the if he isn't. Specifically.

8:04

In his household terminology. And if you notice

8:07

how Isis is like a fellow, it's like

8:09

a final. So what's that? You're like, hey,

8:11

I, let's talk on with awesome logic. Absolutely

8:13

got to. Humans are my household Gotcha hematoma.

8:15

Pauline letters? Okay, I got to. but all

8:18

in Letters is a bit more wide than

8:20

just a seasoned right arm. I think it's

8:22

important that. You. Have got enough self

8:24

exploration of you knowing where you need

8:27

in your help somewhat users so helpful

8:29

gems. you're a collector acts but I

8:31

know you enough to know that as

8:33

you're engaging with somebody and you're saying

8:35

ah, it sounds like you need a

8:37

specialist in this particular area to somebody

8:39

comes to meet and they're talking and

8:41

also against Second Hambleton I might. Say.

8:44

I think you need a second Temple literature

8:46

expert and I would just as a suggestion

8:48

be paying attention to be which are talking

8:50

Tf to see that sense of humility and

8:53

self awareness of that clinician, his wealth or

8:55

the therapist to know their own limits and

8:57

their credentials so that there's no that super

8:59

hero complex that we talk about forth so.

9:01

Giovanna To say to someone he

9:03

says i'm an easy that going

9:06

to see a counselor or therapist

9:08

is really biblical. Now that's a

9:10

very one. I can answer that quickly in

9:12

the a distinctly move one of the significant

9:14

were so the New Testament to repeal. Where.

9:17

Do we get a were therapists from. The. Whole

9:19

idea of the Greek word. It's

9:21

actually to recover wholeness. So

9:23

beautiful is that beautiful? He has a what

9:25

does Jesus doing consistently thought his earthly ministry.

9:28

Is trying to help us recover home,

9:30

the spiritually, emotionally and physically. right?

9:32

Arm And so it is. It's

9:35

deeply biblical. It is

9:37

also something that we have to have

9:39

wisdom with, and so you can probably

9:41

toggle a bit more about this. There's

9:43

a difference from a human centric. Humanistic

9:46

philosophies that presents you as the

9:48

height of creation and everything has

9:51

to filter through you vs.

9:53

Eight Theological understanding of you are

9:55

made in lightness, an image of

9:57

God to you. have no. Like

10:00

dignity and worth And.

10:03

You also are we call in

10:05

the law school terms the creation

10:07

trio toward distinction. You are created

10:09

and there is a tree tour

10:12

and or I'm personally looking for

10:14

therapists who are I'm not going

10:16

to nestle feed into the ego

10:18

of myself a help me see

10:20

how I rightly relate. In.

10:22

My world with others he had I'll add

10:25

and so that's probably the to since I

10:27

make. Have

10:29

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12:33

is counseling something that we need

12:35

to consistently do forever? Well.

12:38

That's who are word from a

12:40

reality, right? Is it forever? And

12:42

forever is a long, long time.

12:44

So no. I want people to

12:46

get more more. Dependent.

12:49

On. Christ on the Word

12:51

of God on community. walk together

12:53

and less and less dependent on

12:55

the therapist. Therapists exists one day

12:57

when you're bored google about the

12:59

Modern therapy movement of when that

13:01

landed in America and you will

13:03

see the Freud are pushed. a

13:05

lot of stuff in there and

13:07

esa negative seemed well Freud when

13:09

the church was failing to backing

13:11

off of cure of Souls and

13:13

care of the souls. As for

13:15

to you go research that if

13:17

you want so the idea. Is the

13:20

counseling move and exists now and I've had

13:22

some large church pastor say crest we've got

13:24

you were not going to send them to

13:26

an elder in our church. We're not going

13:28

to do that. And so pastors I think

13:30

and adults I just live in the times

13:32

I live in of indoor plumbing right. And.

13:35

So now we're here Media We we live

13:37

in the times I the internet and so

13:39

now is we're in a professional counseling movement

13:41

the among the Executive or the American Association

13:43

of Christian Counselor were trying to make a

13:46

difference in just is is just here. But

13:48

even among cancers yeah to work yourself out

13:50

of a job. The look there's some cancers

13:52

and I get it. no offense to are

13:54

hungry and I understand that Sec chairman the

13:56

water. Sometimes they find out and get a

13:59

new clients their new their store yeah I

14:01

understand that. but a person if you discern

14:03

this cancers and desperate to get you in

14:05

there and to keep you. In

14:07

a part of our be are you changing

14:09

his St. Paul said the things you've learned

14:11

seen here go put into practice. otherwise you'll

14:14

do James. You'll come look in the Mayor

14:16

of Therapy in the Word of God once

14:18

a week and immediately forget omelettes a secret

14:20

to find the lot of people. I'll check

14:22

back and say. What is your

14:24

action plan to go put into practice? you here

14:27

with the next week. Nice. You know I don't

14:29

do the weekly anymore. do intensive. But.

14:31

Still, army will be was unable to

14:33

Mcadoo another intensive. Also wanted you put

14:35

into practice since the last time and

14:37

I want to assess the biggest failure

14:40

Fidler that can would say. Here's the

14:42

one thing that say. Is. What

14:44

ever you learn and counseling and do biblio counseling

14:46

as the word for book for Barnes and Noble

14:48

somewhere you get for free, sit on a read.

14:51

Books. Google read find a way you

14:53

can get a notebook purse, journaling is person

14:55

therapy and then go put that into practice.

14:57

Was some accountability from some other people. yeah

14:59

don't laugh at us and that a crescent

15:01

link. What if I can't afford therapy as

15:04

why he started therapy the all the that

15:06

lay eggs to the teeth. Look at the

15:08

amount of wisdom and I'm not bay area

15:10

with is because we're a team. Your the

15:12

three of us and his team by in

15:14

these cameras and away and sees. The.

15:16

Amount of energy the goes in and preparation

15:19

of starting with your vision and forgive me

15:21

for said it. And. Now go

15:23

back and watch some people receive

15:25

the audio don't know you was

15:27

our lovely faces on you to

15:29

have rights. Go back and watch

15:31

in. Really watch and listen. And

15:34

and time into and take notes not just our

15:36

show notes and say. Water. My take

15:38

the ways of how I grew up with

15:40

us in the prices may be get three

15:42

or four friends, a small group us water,

15:44

some therapy in theology and disgusts. You.

15:46

Can do that and will save you a lot

15:48

of money. Time it is. Yeah, Just

15:51

tag on telly of it. One.

15:53

Of the things that I've found is am when

15:55

it comes to the bible I think the bible's

15:57

the best interpreter of scripture scriptures the best into.

16:00

Scripture He knows your Bible. Those will

16:02

cross references com era wonder whether. It's.

16:05

Free to look at a it's

16:07

for into to track down and

16:09

search right? Ah higher for

16:11

pages. Know like there's something

16:14

beautiful? When. You go in fact

16:16

on this cross references has you

16:18

see the large store of scripture,

16:20

how it's interconnected and then some

16:22

encourage all gym and least are

16:24

consistently dropping wisdom and nuggets. Gym

16:27

youth always quoting people and Save

16:29

Teeth are given citations and resources.

16:31

right? Him Down. Chase him down. Like.

16:34

Go read those books by the different

16:36

people like and use wisdom as are

16:38

doing it obviously. Ah, but also recognize

16:40

that means there's incredible opportunity for this

16:42

to be a starting place. Nicer ending

16:44

spots but a starting place for your

16:47

house during the can lead you to

16:49

other places of Health and Wellness week.

16:51

Honestly, real quick. Dead serious because it

16:53

was always I'm joking. Your.

16:55

Idol like to have your say in a definite like

16:58

a what this to impress guys say. It's

17:00

formal relaxing to the school this room

17:02

and tic toc. And

17:04

being around Says is another center for

17:06

me and I find people what we're

17:09

doing is I get it, I get

17:11

social media, We're wiring our brains more

17:13

and more Inspiring Doberman and wants you

17:15

to answer to get and do what

17:17

you said With a cross references in

17:19

this book alone the best. Counting the

17:21

on Me liver or to say I

17:23

want to watch Therapy in Theology and

17:25

take my own notes and proverbs and

17:27

and Durbin Zazi very generous to hand

17:29

out show notes and we handed out

17:31

that the to Healthy Conversations contracts are

17:33

they were wiring of. His tic.and in

17:35

certain which I'm on. But. His

17:37

sights. There's a sense that I don't want

17:39

to do the work. so was the dirt

17:41

in which I understand to really continue to

17:44

grow up developmentally guess is very young parts.

17:46

And. So I would do my due diligence

17:48

to go find accounts for had take all

17:50

this free counseling. And. Put it into

17:52

practice and I saw my figure out to guy was

17:54

i'll go back once they grow up. Some know I'm

17:57

a passionate man has rather prophetic in time to say.

17:59

We've. Got. To do this because the brain

18:01

is an operation, you're not gonna get all the

18:03

dopa mean. Siren. When you're

18:05

doing this plan cross references he was

18:08

not aware. Cast is is. Then it's

18:10

ah, that's better to be. Informed than

18:12

entertained totally and I think

18:14

part of them pass. In

18:16

that we have with their been

18:19

theology is T is not the

18:21

wisdom in the Bible, the wisdom

18:23

in good therapy practices and also

18:25

the real life. Every. Day issues

18:28

and brain. That together said that

18:30

with people can be informed, said

18:32

we can be informed and not

18:34

just entertained on okay. I. Will

18:36

ask this question an I when it

18:38

opened up a tremendous can of worms

18:41

that because we're at the end of

18:43

this will wrap up a discussion. But.

18:46

Joe I really want you to comment on

18:48

medication because they're I A lot of questions.

18:50

About medication. yeah I'm gonna. I'm gonna comment

18:52

in the room tag team on this one.

18:56

Or at so. I'll. Say this

18:58

if you're worried theologically

19:00

who biblically. Like. On

19:03

my gosh, if I take medicine, is that a

19:05

lack of faith in God. right?

19:07

I'm like. I just want you

19:09

to be assured that in the Greco Roman

19:12

world needs and world of the into Near

19:14

East of L tests and in the group

19:16

from World of the New Testament the medicine

19:18

was a consistent reality for people. They.

19:21

He's medicine. fevers, For

19:24

illnesses for diseases, medicine

19:26

was commonplace and. And

19:29

there was a deep say. That.

19:31

God is it out of miracles that you can

19:33

pray And you can. Is it that God would

19:36

seal right? And. You know what we

19:38

find more often than not I think

19:40

is the normative practice of God and

19:42

Goddess consistently using his com and grace

19:45

which is called medicine and therapists and

19:47

doctors who has creatively uniquely wired in

19:49

such a way to figure out how

19:51

the body works to that he designed

19:54

himself to be able to treat us

19:56

and to be will be itself. I

19:58

would say no easy. Madison.

20:01

In and of itself is

20:03

actually not. I'm anti say

20:05

it's. Not. Like

20:07

anything in this is general of

20:09

the Altai un if it also

20:11

has to be steward at well

20:13

absolute when we have to have

20:15

wisdom in determining okay is. That.

20:18

Is the goal of this medication to

20:20

regain police is the language and sober

20:22

minded is the goal to regain my

20:24

so bride to me from that clear

20:27

mind that can think the way the

20:29

guys intended or is it going into

20:31

loop member? Is going to

20:33

compromise the way that I think as of

20:36

those are some the filters that I want

20:38

us to think through was dead but in

20:40

general no medication is got. Just do It

20:42

was very often in order for us to

20:45

regain clarity of mind. Yeah.

20:47

He mean I agree so of having

20:49

years of hosting colin counseling shows that

20:51

most which were therapy shows. People

20:54

would call it with this question about

20:56

thousand times and that is is taking

20:58

medication like an Ss or I. Am

21:01

able to present anti anxiety meds is in that

21:03

showing a lack of faith in under one time

21:05

out of my mouth I said thank God for

21:08

that. I said taking your medication often does not

21:10

show a lack of faith is actually an act

21:12

of faith. Leviticus. Word.

21:14

Of God he gave leaves for healing.

21:17

Luke. Who was a physician? Got to write

21:19

one fourth of the gospels and the whole book

21:21

of Acts. So. There

21:23

there is and why is live with Paul the

21:26

entire time bomb was him beat up work is

21:28

going on and knew that like he needs to

21:30

get now I that snake bites using a band

21:32

is up to Sicily. I mean he literally had

21:34

his own physician what he our dog Encore encore

21:37

so I think that said he an end of

21:39

joe Joe you looter this theory the say out

21:41

there the weekend takes and they good. And.

21:44

Run it out and they become basically a crutch

21:46

for size of the way. The. Research

21:48

which showed experience with show if you take

21:50

a medication. Take. That and

21:53

do underlying issues. forgives,

21:56

Work. On your family of origin

21:58

trauma or wherever your trauma came

22:00

from do the deeper work because

22:02

the neural pathways the brain get

22:04

out of whack as if you

22:06

take a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor

22:08

and as as a rice is

22:10

this helping the serotonin stay where

22:12

it needs to be and in

22:14

underneath that do be a bright

22:16

frankly with a homeopathic or exercise

22:18

sunlight. Do. All like that all

22:20

the workers post to do and it will

22:22

help your yet some people have you look

22:24

at bipolar is like five shows in one

22:26

second. There. Are issues that probably the

22:29

person's never going to come off that

22:31

medication. I have friends people close to

22:33

me on Zoloft and is change their

22:35

life? Yes, right. And they, but they

22:37

do their work underneath that they're not

22:39

at a Pez dispenser of just Pop

22:41

on Prozac. Ryan the making fun of

22:43

that. Do the deeper work

22:45

around that. It all works. Thank

22:48

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22:50

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