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advised. The.
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brutal murder of a recall
2:00
widow sparked one of the
2:02
largest murdering choiries Liverpool had
2:04
seen in years. After
2:07
following numerous dead-end leads, the
2:10
investigators turned their attention to a
2:12
pair of petty thieves on the
2:14
word of criminal informants. The
2:18
case against them was
2:20
purely circumstantial. Welcome
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to season 8 episode 40
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of They Walk Among Us,
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a podcast dedicated to
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UK true crime. This
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is part 1 of a two-part
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Us Plus, exclusively available on Patreon
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or Apple podcasts. Thomas
3:00
Rimmer said goodbye to his wife
3:02
and child before swinging his leg
3:04
over his bike and cycling out
3:07
of Madrin Street. He
3:09
rode past the entrance to Prince's
3:12
Park towards his mother's home two
3:14
miles away in Wafer Tree. It
3:18
was close to 7 p.m. on August 20th 1951
3:20
and the son had not yet set over Liverpool
3:25
when Thomas turned onto Cranbourne
3:28
Road. The
3:30
24-year-old factory worker dismounted his bike
3:32
as it rolled to the curb
3:34
at the pathway outside number 7,
3:36
a place familiar
3:39
to him as this was where he
3:41
was raised. The
3:43
narrow residential street was lined
3:45
on either side with identical
3:48
terraced houses with large bay
3:50
windows. Jack
3:52
Grossman who lived next door in number
3:54
9 greeted Thomas and told
3:56
him that the half pint of milk
3:58
on his mother's door step had been
4:01
sitting there curdling in the heat
4:03
since morning. Thomas
4:06
acknowledged what the neighbour said as
4:08
he approached the wooden-panelled front door.
4:11
He extended his arm and pressed
4:13
the doorbell three times in
4:15
quick succession, waiting for his
4:17
widowed mother Beatrice Alice Rimmer
4:19
to let him inside. He
4:23
didn't hear the faint taps of her shoes
4:25
as she came to the door to greet
4:27
him, or the usual click of the latch
4:30
before his mother swung open the door. This
4:33
was most unusual. Beatrice
4:36
knew her son was visiting.
4:39
Without any sign of movement through the
4:41
blind on the front door, Thomas lifted
4:43
the flap of the letterbox to peer
4:46
inside the home. There
4:49
was nothing in his direct line of sight.
4:52
It was difficult to see every angle
4:54
as Thomas looked through the small rectangular
4:57
hole, but he managed to fix
4:59
his gaze on the floor. A
5:02
few feet from the entryway, he
5:05
focused on his mother lying in
5:07
the hallway. In
5:10
the time that he watched her, there was
5:12
no sound from inside the home, and
5:14
she didn't appear to move an inch.
5:18
There was no reply to
5:20
her son's panicked response. Thomas
5:26
turned around, grabbing his bike
5:28
with urgency. He
5:31
momentarily paused, only to
5:33
tell the neighbour that something was wrong.
5:36
He didn't have time to elaborate as
5:38
he pedalled down to the end of
5:41
Cranbourne Road and turned into a back
5:43
passage between the houses. Thomas
5:47
hoisted himself over the stone wall
5:49
and into the small back garden,
5:51
using his bike to steady himself.
5:55
He would later say, I
5:57
notice that a pane of glass in the
5:59
kitchen window. window was broken. I
6:02
tried the back door leading from the yard,
6:04
but it appeared to be bolted, and
6:07
broke more glass from the hole in
6:09
the window and climbed through. Thomas
6:14
rushed into the hallway. The
6:16
familiar checkered tiles lined the
6:18
walls, but the carpet
6:21
runner was saturated. He
6:23
soon realized it was his mother's blood.
6:27
As a former police constable, Thomas
6:30
had some basic first-day training, and
6:32
when he failed to find a pulse
6:35
on his mother's wrist, he opened the
6:37
front door and called for neighbor Jack
6:39
Grossman to phone the police. Constables
6:44
Robert Evans and Stanley Wright
6:46
arrived on Cranbourne Road around
6:48
ten minutes later, and after
6:50
confirming Mrs. Rimmer was dead,
6:52
they called for senior officers.
6:56
It was obvious from the outset that
6:58
she had been murdered. 54-year-old
7:05
Beatrice Alice Rimmer had lived
7:07
at the house on Cranbourne
7:09
Road for almost 30
7:11
years. Her
7:13
husband, Thomas Woozy Rimmer, died
7:16
just a year earlier, after
7:18
suddenly collapsing in their back garden.
7:22
Thomas had worked as an audit
7:24
clerk for a tobacco manufacturer, and
7:27
in his will, along with his pension,
7:29
he left his widow an estate totaling
7:31
over £1,100, the
7:35
equivalent of over £40,000 today. Mrs.
7:40
Rimmer, who chose to be referred to
7:42
as Alice, was described by
7:44
some neighbors as being
7:47
a semi-recluse. The
7:49
neighbor two doors down, Mr.
7:51
Baker, remarked, although
7:53
she went out most days, it was
7:55
always alone, and she never
7:57
returned with anyone. discussed
8:00
her business with anyone as far as
8:02
I'm aware. Alice
8:06
had a soft spot for the baker's
8:08
dog, Rover, and most days he
8:10
would wander into her garden and wait
8:12
for her to let him inside. Rover
8:16
was among the very few guests
8:18
welcomed inside the immaculately kept house.
8:22
After the dog enjoyed some treats
8:25
Alice would send Rover back home.
8:29
In spite of her neighbours beliefs Alice
8:32
did have some social hobbies. She
8:35
attended meetings with the Dovedale
8:37
Ladies bowling club at Wavertree
8:39
playground but couldn't be convinced
8:41
to go to club outings with the
8:43
other members. Mrs
8:46
Liggett the secretary of the bowling
8:48
club told the Liverpool Echo
8:50
that Alice hadn't been in good
8:52
health for the previous two seasons
8:55
so she hadn't played as much as she
8:57
used to. Another
9:00
pleasure was card games which
9:02
Alice played when meeting other players
9:04
at Sefton Park Conservative Club a
9:06
few times a week. One
9:09
of the women who played cards with
9:11
Alice told the Echo. It
9:13
has been said Mrs Rimmer was a
9:16
recluse and never went out at night
9:19
but this is far from being the truth. She
9:22
went out to a wist drive most
9:24
nights. She seemed happy and
9:26
jolly when I saw her on Saturday.
9:32
Following the sudden death of her husband Alice
9:35
Rimmer spent every Sunday afternoon with
9:37
her son Thomas and his wife
9:40
Marion. She frequently
9:42
encouraged her boy to rejoin
9:44
the police force. Sunday
9:47
August 19th was no different
9:49
and after having dinner together
9:51
and playing cards Thomas
9:53
accompanied his mother to the bus
9:55
stop at the junction of Princes
9:57
Avenue and Granby Street. With
10:00
the strap of her umbrella looped around
10:02
her right wrist and a bunch of
10:04
flowers in her other hand, Alice
10:07
boarded the number 27 bus
10:09
at around 9.45pm. The
10:13
bus driver, Henry Francis Bentley,
10:16
recalled seeing a woman he
10:18
described as middle-aged and well-built,
10:20
wearing a brown straw hat
10:22
and brown coat, boarded the
10:24
bus at that stop. She
10:28
disembarked around five minutes later at
10:30
the junction between Lodge Lane and
10:32
Smith Down Road. Depending
10:36
on the weather, Alice usually
10:38
took the tram from Smith Down
10:40
Road or walked the ten-minute journey
10:42
back to her home. After
10:49
Beatrice Alice Rimmer was found dead,
10:51
senior officers who worked in the
10:54
Liverpool City Police Force attended the
10:56
scene. When discovered
10:58
in the hallway, Alice was
11:00
lying in an awkward position. A
11:04
brown straw hat that she had
11:06
been wearing earlier appeared to have
11:08
fallen off, perhaps in a struggle.
11:11
Without it covering her head, a
11:14
number of open wounds on the left
11:16
side of her scalp were visible through
11:18
her hair, which was matted with blood.
11:22
It seemed as if most of the blood
11:24
loss came from these wounds, and
11:26
clumps of hair were found in the
11:28
pool of blood beneath her head. The
11:32
yellow floral sundae best dress she
11:34
wore when she visited her son
11:36
had bunched above her knees, indicating
11:38
she had struggled on the floor.
11:42
She couldn't get far as her foot was
11:44
caught on a wooden chair next to the
11:46
front door. It
11:49
was obvious that Alice had been
11:51
killed almost immediately after arriving home
11:53
from her sons. The
11:56
umbrella was still wrapped around her wrist,
11:58
and the bouquet of flowers was wilting in
12:01
the plastic sheeting they were wrapped in.
12:04
Next to her closed right fist
12:06
was a small leather key purse
12:09
containing the front door key and
12:11
her handbag which was undisturbed. Once
12:15
pristinely white, her neck
12:17
gloves were soaked with blood and clung
12:19
tightly to a visible wound on the
12:21
back of her right hand. There
12:24
were also cuts on the back of
12:26
her brown coat. A
12:29
window pane at the back of the
12:31
property had been broken just above the
12:33
catch. Thomas Rimmer
12:35
said he had climbed in through
12:37
the window after removing some of
12:39
the larger shards of glass with
12:41
a piece of brick he found
12:43
outside. Either
12:45
the perpetrator was lying in wait for
12:48
Alice to return or they
12:50
barged in when she opened her front
12:52
door. It was unclear.
12:55
Looking around his mother's home, Thomas
12:57
didn't notice anything missing which made
13:00
it more likely that whoever attacked
13:02
his mother had done so as
13:04
soon as she entered the house.
13:08
Ex-door neighbours didn't hear anything on
13:10
the night of the 19th but
13:12
the blood spatter all over the
13:14
hallway indicated that it had been
13:16
a vicious and prolonged assault. No
13:20
murder weapon was found during preliminary
13:22
searches of a house. Scenes
13:25
of crime officers were called
13:27
along with forensic experts and
13:29
the pathologist. Dr
13:31
James B Firth, director of the
13:33
Preston Home Office Forensic Science Lab,
13:36
arrived at the scene shortly before
13:39
11pm. He examined
13:41
the body in situ and
13:43
collected swabs of blood from the floor
13:45
and walls. Alice had
13:48
obvious head injuries and there was a
13:50
considerable amount of blood near her head
13:52
and on the wall between the front
13:54
door and the door to the sitting
13:56
room. The direction
13:58
of blood spatter all on the walls
14:00
gave the impression that the majority of
14:03
the blows were inflicted on the victim
14:05
as she lay on the floor. Small
14:08
pieces of glass found near the window
14:11
were also bagged and taken to the
14:13
lab for analysis. Alton
14:16
Pathologist Dr. Charles Bernard Manning
14:18
arrived at the scene soon
14:20
after Dr. Firth. Beatrice
14:23
Alice Rimmer's body was removed to
14:25
the city mortuary at 1am, where
14:28
Dr. Manning conducted a post-mortem
14:30
in the presence of Dr.
14:32
Firth, who collected anything of
14:34
evidentiary value. Dr.
14:38
Manning logged that there were more than 15 wounds
14:41
on the victim's scalp, predominantly
14:43
concentrated on the left side of
14:45
her head, including a tear to
14:48
her left earlobe. The
14:50
two-inch area of her skull was exposed
14:52
near the back of her head. Upon
14:56
further examination the pathologist found
14:58
two skull fractures running perpendicular
15:00
to each other, one
15:02
up from the base of the
15:04
neck and the other horizontally forming
15:07
a T-shape. Alice
15:09
had suffered a subdural cerebral hemorrhage
15:11
believed to have been inflicted by
15:13
a light weapon swung with such
15:16
force that it perforated her skin
15:18
but did not pierce the bone.
15:21
Shallow wounds of varied shapes were
15:24
also noted, some were
15:26
straight or curved and some
15:28
unusually were star-shaped. Heavy
15:31
bruising on Alice's right arm and
15:33
hand suggested that she had held
15:36
it above her head to try
15:38
and protect herself from the 20
15:40
plus blows inflicted on her body.
15:43
Her right index finger was fractured
15:46
and below it was an irregular shaped
15:48
wound that measured three-quarters of an inch
15:50
in length. There were
15:52
three angular cuts between her shoulder
15:55
blades consistent with the tears seen
15:57
in her brown coat and yellow
15:59
dress. Similar
16:01
damage was found to her straw
16:03
hat which had an uneven hole
16:05
on the left side that corresponded
16:07
to the injuries on the victim's
16:09
head. All
16:12
of the blood found at the scene
16:14
was confirmed to be group A which
16:16
was matched to Alice's blood type. The
16:19
loose hair that was found next to her
16:21
head was hers and appeared to
16:23
have been severed from her head with a
16:25
sharp weapon not pulled out
16:28
in a struggle. Dr
16:31
Manning concluded that Beatrice Alice Rimmer's
16:33
cause of death was due to
16:35
brain hemorrhage, shock and
16:38
skull fractures following repeated blows
16:40
to the head with one
16:42
or more weapons. Aside
16:49
from the broken window, there were no
16:51
signs of any disturbance in the real
16:53
living area or the kitchen. Thomas
16:56
Rimmer couldn't recall if the rear door
16:59
into the kitchen was locked when he
17:01
arrived. In a
17:03
state of panic, he had entered by
17:05
clambering through the broken window, but
17:08
the first officers to arrive at the
17:10
scene were able to gain entry through
17:12
the back door. Superintendent
17:16
Hector Taylor took charge of the CID
17:18
team assigned to the case, while
17:20
his superior Superintendent Herbert Bama
17:23
was on holiday in Ireland.
17:28
According to the pathologist Beatrice
17:30
Alice Rimmer's death had not
17:32
been immediate and he believed
17:34
that she had died around
17:36
2am on August 20th having
17:38
been attacked at around 10pm
17:40
the night before. She
17:43
had clung to life alone for
17:45
four hours before she passed away
17:47
from her injuries. All
17:52
available officers were dispatched to search
17:54
the area in squad casts. Shining
17:57
torches out of the window as they
17:59
cruised along Smithtown Road, they scoured
18:02
the cemetery and nearby sites that
18:04
had been blitzed in the war,
18:07
looking for anything that could be linked
18:09
with the murder. Inquiries
18:11
were made at local railway
18:13
stations, docks and roads leading
18:15
out of the city. It
18:19
was the largest murder investigation in
18:21
two years, since a manager and
18:23
his assistant were gunned down in
18:25
the Cameo Cinema one street away
18:27
from Alice's home. The
18:31
victim's neighbours Lillian Cornfirth and
18:33
Mr Baker both said they
18:35
hadn't heard anything suspicious. Mr
18:39
Baker's second dog Skip, who
18:41
usually barked at everything, hadn't
18:43
barked in the last 24 hours. As
18:48
forensic experts continued to dust the
18:50
house for prints, Superintendent
18:52
Taylor appealed to the public and
18:54
asked anyone who had visited the
18:56
house in the past three months
18:58
to get in touch, so
19:01
they could be eliminated from the inquiry.
19:04
Checks were made with all local dry
19:07
cleaners on the chance that the killer
19:09
had handed in bloodstain clothing. It
19:12
was believed that whoever committed the
19:14
murder would have been considerably bloody
19:16
in the aftermath. The
19:19
street was sealed off while
19:21
uniformed officers from Liverpool City
19:23
Police conducted doorstep interviews with
19:26
neighbours in search gardens for
19:28
potential murder weapons. Some
19:31
neighbours thought it was likely that Alice
19:33
kept cash in the house as she
19:35
was widowed and didn't work. CID
19:39
detectives inquired at Merseyside approved
19:41
schools and Remand homes to
19:43
see if anyone had absconded
19:45
in the past few days.
19:48
Boising the challenges the
19:51
investigation faced, Superintendent Taylor
19:53
remarked, We have
19:55
no idea what the man we are looking
19:57
for is like, what sort of
19:59
weapon. to look for. The
20:02
window at the rear of the house was
20:05
only wide enough for someone with a slim
20:07
bill to climb through. Superintendent
20:10
Taylor continued, While we
20:12
do not rule out that the crime might
20:14
have been committed by a woman, we
20:17
think it more likely that only a
20:19
man could have used such force with
20:21
what we believe was only a light
20:23
weapon, probably a stick or a large
20:26
hand torch. Beatrice
20:32
Alice Rimmer's funeral was held
20:34
at Halliton Cemetery Chapel on
20:36
August 24th, Hundreds
20:42
of women kept vigil as they
20:44
lined the pavements along Cranbourne
20:46
and Smithdown Road on a rainy
20:49
Friday afternoon. The
20:51
chapel service led by Reverend Alan
20:54
Kemp was packed and over
20:56
100 people waited at the graveside
20:58
for the funeral cottage.
21:03
Alongside the police and Alice's son,
21:05
the victim's brother had travelled from
21:07
Newcastle after reading of his sister's
21:10
death. They
21:12
hadn't spoken in four years and
21:15
he was shocked to hear of her
21:17
murder. The
21:22
investigation was galvanised by the
21:24
return of the head of
21:26
Liverpool CID Superintendent Herbert Bama
21:28
the following week and detectives
21:30
continued to work on the
21:32
theory that an intruder had
21:34
killed Beatrice Alice Rimmer. The
21:38
drawers and cupboards were closed which
21:40
didn't suggest a burglar had ransacked
21:42
the house but a peculiar discovery
21:45
was made in the kitchen. Three
21:49
sweet wrappers were found, one
21:51
on the table and two on the floor next
21:53
to it. They appeared
21:55
to be freshly discarded and were
21:57
from different manufacturers including
22:00
Santa's super sweets and
22:02
having a rutledge. Superintendent
22:05
Barmour remarked, ''It
22:07
is a significant fact that Mrs
22:09
Rimmer was known to be scrupulously
22:12
clean and not the type to
22:14
discard caramel papers in her home.
22:16
We believe that the sweets were eaten
22:19
by the intruders inside the house and
22:21
that they had made an entry just
22:23
before Mrs Rimmer reached her front door.
22:26
No one could have had time to eat
22:28
two sweets and in any case, a
22:31
house was not upset or disturbed
22:33
in any way. Confectionary
22:37
stores in the Wavertree area and
22:39
across the city were canvassed to
22:42
see if anyone had specifically requested
22:44
those types of sweets together as
22:46
they were usually sold in different
22:49
bags. Tests
22:51
were still ongoing at the Northwestern
22:53
Forensic Science Laboratory to try and
22:55
ascertain exactly what kind of weapon
22:58
was used in a murder. Investigators
23:01
began looking through records of similar
23:03
break-ins to try and find a
23:06
link. In
23:08
the weekends preceding the murder, several
23:10
houses in Liverpool were burgled by
23:12
someone who broke the right-hand pane
23:14
of glass in the lower sash
23:16
of a rear window. Enough
23:19
glass had been removed each time
23:21
to allow someone to climb inside.
23:25
On the evening of August 4th, a
23:28
house on Harvey Street had been broken
23:30
into and a piece of coal
23:32
was used to chip away the glass remnants
23:34
from the frame. Over
23:37
200 cigarettes, a Waterman
23:39
found in Ballpoint pen and
23:41
£1.08 shillings in cash were
23:43
taken from the house. One
23:46
week later, a property on Alderson
23:49
Road near Smithdown Road had been
23:51
broken into in the same fashion.
23:54
The distinct sound of glass breaking was heard at
23:56
around 11.45pm on August. 11th
24:01
and when the homeowner Edna Conway
24:03
returned she found that someone
24:05
had eaten a tin of salmon and
24:08
opened tins of fruit. The
24:10
coin meter under the stairs had been
24:12
emptied as had a
24:14
trunk that contained nickel plated knives
24:17
under sugar basin along with a
24:19
cream jug and a porn ticket.
24:22
An axe that was kept downstairs was
24:24
later found beneath the duvet in the
24:27
bedroom and it was believed to
24:29
have been carried as a weapon by
24:31
the intruder in case they were interrupted.
24:35
Edna Conway's coat described as
24:37
being two years old navy
24:39
coloured and double breasted with
24:41
pointed lapels was also absent.
24:44
The coat was unique as it had been
24:47
dyed, leaving a greenish
24:49
tinge to the half length lining
24:51
inside. Superintendent
24:53
Barmus said, it
24:55
seems very likely that someone has come
24:58
into possession of the coat and
25:00
I appeal most earnestly to anyone
25:02
who thinks they have it to
25:04
come forward immediately. Three
25:09
days later on August 14th the
25:12
items from the Alderson Road Break-in
25:14
were discovered inside an oven in
25:16
a disused bakery on Spothforth Road.
25:20
On August 16th several days before
25:22
Beatrice Alice Rimmer was killed there
25:25
were reports that two teenage boys
25:27
were seen attempting to climb the
25:30
wooden gate leading to the premises.
25:33
Before they climbed over other children
25:35
nearby shouted to them that the
25:38
police were inside and the teenagers
25:40
ran off. One
25:43
was described as being five feet
25:45
six inches tall with a medium
25:47
frame and straight dark hair. He
25:50
had been wearing a dark blue jacket,
25:53
black plimsolls and grey
25:55
flannel trousers tucked into the top
25:57
of his socks. boy
26:00
was said to be a bit
26:02
shorter at 5 feet 4 inches
26:04
and wore a lumber jacket with
26:06
dark-colored trousers. Believing
26:09
the teenagers could have been
26:11
responsible for the fatal break-in
26:13
detectives questioned hundreds of youths
26:15
at local schools during the
26:18
first week of September. Superintendent
26:21
Bama said we want
26:24
to see every schoolboy. All
26:26
school children will be interviewed in
26:28
an endeavor to trace the two
26:31
15-year-old boys we wish to interview.
26:35
A few days later, Bama ordered
26:37
that every street grid and gully
26:39
along Cranbourne Road be searched for
26:41
the murder weapon. Liverpool
26:44
Corporation suction pumps were used to
26:46
clear the gullies and flush out
26:49
any debris to awaiting investigators. A
26:51
10 inch
26:53
knife with a yellow handle that was
26:56
stained black from use was discovered. And
26:59
although it didn't look like it had been in
27:01
the drains for long, no evidence
27:03
led investigators to believe it was
27:05
the murder weapon. Superintendent
27:08
Bama revealed more information
27:10
to the public. The
27:13
police believe the tallis had been attacked
27:16
with multiple weapons as soon as she
27:18
entered her house on August 19. Bama
27:22
stated Mrs. Rimmer was
27:24
known to be terribly scared of
27:26
burglars and on entering her home
27:28
after darkness she was known to
27:30
rush along the lobby immediately after
27:32
she got the front door open
27:35
to switch on the electric light.
27:39
She never reached the light switch
27:41
according to Bama. Mrs.
27:43
Rimmer was struck down at once.
27:46
There is no doubt that her assailants
27:48
had rained blow after blow upon her
27:50
and from the nature of the wounds
27:53
we are of the opinion that there
27:55
was more than one attacker. The
28:01
investigation seemed to slow down until
28:03
the police announced that they were
28:05
looking for a red-haired man who
28:08
went by the nickname Jinch, who
28:10
was known to wear an army
28:12
battle dress with RAOC on the
28:15
shoulder. This stood for
28:17
Royal Army Ordinance Corps. Jinch,
28:20
who was believed to also go by
28:22
the name Frederick or Arthur Dutton, usually
28:25
slept rough in an old car on wasteland
28:27
near the No. 14 tram route. He
28:32
was often seen at cafes and
28:34
public houses near Paddington performing his
28:36
party trick of blowing smoke
28:38
rings. More
28:44
than 5,000 people had been interviewed
28:46
by the end of September when
28:49
it was announced that Liverpool CID
28:51
were being assisted by the Manchester
28:54
Police. The young
28:56
boys seen near the bakery had
28:58
been traced and eliminated from the
29:01
murder investigation. October
29:05
brought a breakthrough. It
29:07
was announced that there had finally been
29:09
an arrest. 22-year-old
29:12
Edward Francis Devlin, known
29:15
to friends and family as Teddy, was
29:18
taken into custody by DC Lynch
29:20
and DS Skinner from Liverpool and
29:23
Manchester CID as he entered a
29:25
milk-piercing bar on Stretford Road in
29:27
Manchester just after 8pm on October
29:30
10th. The
29:32
arrest was made following a
29:35
72-hour operation between the police
29:37
forces across a three-mile radius
29:39
in Manchester. According
29:42
to official sources, a prisoner
29:44
had provided information to Liverpool
29:46
CID about the murder. After
29:51
consulting with Manchester Police, the
29:53
investigators were told about two young men
29:55
who were said to have been in
29:57
Liverpool at the time of the crime.
30:00
was committed. Edward
30:07
Francis Devlin was one of six
30:09
children born and raised on Leinster
30:11
Street in Swinton Manchester by his
30:13
widowed mother Amy following the sudden
30:16
death of his father in 1943.
30:21
A Catholic school student, Devlin
30:23
never completed his education and
30:26
instead began committing petty fits
30:28
in his early teens. He
30:31
had many run-ins with the law
30:33
and three convictions for larceny by
30:35
the time he reached adulthood. At
30:39
the age of 20 he had
30:41
been sentenced to six months in
30:43
prison for stealing tomatoes. Between
30:47
his short stints in remand times Devlin
30:49
had served in the army for two
30:51
years between 1947
30:53
and 1949. He left
30:57
receiving an honourable discharge.
31:00
In early August Devlin had skipped
31:03
bail and was hiding out from
31:05
the local police until he was
31:07
located during a raid on a
31:10
house on Cornbrook Street with a
31:12
friend 21-year-old Alfred Burns. Burns
31:16
and Devlin had known each other
31:18
for years and had similar backgrounds,
31:21
each being raised in a large
31:23
family by a widowed mother in
31:25
post-war Manchester. Like
31:28
Devlin, Alfred Burns had a number
31:30
of minor convictions as a juvenile
31:32
and had been sent to a
31:34
borstal twice but while on leave in
31:36
July 1951 he had absconded. The
31:42
young men were taken in for questioning
31:45
concerning several offences committed in the area
31:47
while they were on the run and
31:49
Burns had claimed that they couldn't have
31:52
been responsible as they were in Liverpool
31:54
at the time. Devlin
31:56
had been released after a short stay
31:59
in strange weather. his prison, but
32:01
just a few days later he was
32:03
arrested. According
32:06
to the police, Devlin was immediately
32:08
told that he was being taken
32:11
into custody in connection with the
32:13
murder of Beatrice Alice Rimmer in
32:15
Liverpool on August 19th. He
32:19
allegedly replied, I don't
32:21
know anything about it, I
32:23
never heard of the murder. The
32:27
following day he appeared at
32:29
Liverpool Magistrates Court before Mr
32:31
Arthur Macfarlane and was charged
32:33
with murder. Wearing
32:36
a beige coloured shirt with an
32:38
open tartan collar and brown trousers,
32:41
Devlin pushed back his allburn hair
32:43
before telling the magistrates, if
32:46
I can have someone get to Manchester,
32:48
I can prove I was in Manchester at
32:50
the time. It
32:53
was remanded into custody pending a
32:55
committal hearing and later that
32:58
same day Alfred Burns was arrested
33:00
at Strangeways Prison where he was
33:02
being kept until he was due
33:04
to return to a ball stall.
33:08
Burns was brought before the magistrates the
33:10
next day and charged with the same
33:12
crime. His naturally
33:14
wavy fair hair was styled in
33:17
the typical 50s fashion and
33:19
he looked respectable wearing a matching
33:21
blue suit and shirt for the
33:23
hearing. Before
33:25
being remanded into custody he told
33:27
the court, all I can
33:30
say is I did not know there
33:32
had been a murder in Liverpool until
33:34
yesterday. One
33:38
week later on October 18th
33:40
both men again appeared at
33:42
Liverpool Magistrates alongside their counsel
33:44
as the matter had been
33:46
referred to the director of
33:48
public prosecutions. The
33:50
defendants would continue to be held
33:53
on remand. Joseph
33:55
Norton representing Burns told the
33:57
court, I cannot at this
33:59
stage object to the remand, but
34:02
in fairness to the accused, I
34:04
want to say he vehemently denies
34:06
any complicity in this charge. He
34:09
protests his innocence as he has
34:11
done from the very outset. The
34:18
Committal Hearing was opened by Mr.
34:20
J.R. Bishop on November 2nd. Outlining
34:24
the prosecution's case that the accused
34:26
had been in Liverpool on August
34:28
19th and had planned
34:30
to commit a robbery at the home
34:32
of Beatrice Alice Rimmer, Mr.
34:34
Bishop said that witnesses would
34:36
be referring to the victim
34:38
by a typically derogatory descriptor.
34:41
You will hear this woman described in
34:43
evidence by some witnesses as an old
34:45
woman. Bishop continued,
34:48
the pathologist describes her as an obese
34:50
female between 50 and 60 years
34:53
of age. You may think
34:56
that from the angle of 21
34:58
or 22 such a woman may
35:00
be described as an old woman.
35:04
The court heard that Devlin and Burns
35:06
had spoken to several people about planning
35:09
the robbery and that multiple witnesses had
35:11
seen them in Liverpool over the weekend
35:13
of August 17th to 19th. Barristers
35:18
for the defendants, Harry
35:20
Livermore for Devlin and Joseph
35:23
Norton for Burns, complained that
35:25
they felt the magistrate told
35:27
them and Gordon was being
35:29
unfair by upholding prosecution objections
35:31
during their cross-examination of the
35:33
witnesses. The
35:36
magistrate had told the witnesses not to
35:38
speak to anyone about the case, including
35:41
the defense, and refused
35:43
to have the record reflect his rulings
35:45
in which he did not allow barristers
35:47
for the defense to learn the witnesses'
35:50
addresses. The
35:53
defense contended that they would raise protest
35:55
elsewhere as it was within the law
35:57
for them to interview witnesses. Witness
36:01
identifications and statements were a
36:03
point of further contention when
36:05
the defence alleged that the
36:07
statements made by the accused
36:10
following their arrests were written
36:12
by Superintendent Bama and Inspector
36:14
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36:16
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36:20
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36:22
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36:24
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The trial began at St. George's Hall in
38:40
Liverpool on February 12, 1952, less than a
38:42
week after Queen
38:46
Elizabeth II ascended to the
38:48
throne. Proceedings
38:50
had been temporarily delayed when
38:53
the presiding judge, Mr. Justice
38:55
Finnimore, had left a
38:57
flu-like virus that left him bed bound.
39:01
Opening the case for the crown, Basil-nealed
39:04
QC described how Beatrice Alice
39:06
Rimmer's body had been discovered
39:08
by her only child on
39:10
August 20 of the previous
39:12
year. Referring
39:15
to her injuries including 15
39:17
wounds to her head alone,
39:20
he spoke about her broken finger and
39:22
the cut on her hand when
39:24
she had tried to ward off
39:26
the blows mercilessly rained upon her.
39:30
The prosecutor continued. It
39:32
was established that some of the wounds
39:34
had been inflicted as she lay on
39:37
the floor and she took three or
39:39
four hours to die. Basil-nealed
39:44
QC told the court that Edward
39:46
Devlin was alleged to have met
39:49
a man named George McLaughlin, a
39:51
19-year-old Liverpool native, at
39:54
Bell's All-Night Cafe in Paddington in
39:56
late July 1951. A
40:00
Glauklin, a career criminal from the
40:02
age of nine with over 40
40:05
convictions before his 20th birthday, had
40:07
been brought from prison to testify.
40:10
He said that he and Devlin were
40:12
having a conversation when he told Devlin
40:14
about his plans to rob his aunt's
40:16
home at 109 Cranbourne Road
40:20
while she was away on holiday.
40:23
Devlin allegedly replied that it was
40:25
funny because he had a job
40:27
planned for that road too. According
40:31
to McLauklin, he said
40:33
he was comfortable disclosing his plans
40:35
to a stranger because most people
40:37
in all night cafes were crooks.
40:40
Devlin disclosed that an old woman
40:42
was living alone in number seven.
40:45
She seldom received visitors. Devlin
40:49
claimed the woman kept a lot of
40:51
dough in the house and
40:53
that he would put her on a
40:55
bed and see to her if she
40:58
started messing about. McLauklin
41:01
testified that he and Devlin went
41:03
to Cranbourne Road the following morning
41:06
despite giving evidence at an earlier hearing
41:08
that they had gone at night when
41:10
it was dark. He
41:12
claimed to have given Devlin a leg
41:14
over the wall so they could case
41:17
the job and he saw a privet
41:19
bush in the garden. They
41:21
arranged to carry out the break in
41:24
later. According
41:26
to the prosecution, Edward
41:28
Devlin had met a
41:30
22-year-old former show girl
41:32
named June Berry in
41:34
Manchester during Whitsuntide in
41:36
May 1951. June,
41:39
a Manchester native, told
41:41
the court that she and Devlin spent
41:43
a week together before she moved to
41:46
Liverpool. After the
41:48
move, June started a relationship with
41:50
a man named Stanley Rubin and
41:52
he would often stay with her at a
41:55
lodging house on Caneing Street at
41:58
the beginning of August. She
42:00
was surprised to see Devlin outside
42:02
her home and happily agreed
42:04
to go with him to a pub
42:06
near the market called The Dive. June
42:10
claimed that it was in The
42:12
Dive that she was introduced to
42:15
Alfred Burns and after closing time
42:17
they made their way to several
42:19
all-night cafes before ending up in
42:22
the Continental Cafe at around 4.30am.
42:25
According to June, Devlin and Burns
42:28
met George McLaughlin and had a
42:30
conversation about an old woman's house
42:32
with a back entry that could
42:34
be reached by climbing over a
42:37
wall. McLaughlin
42:39
told the court, We
42:42
were going to get one of the girls round
42:44
the front to keep the old woman chatting. While
42:47
she was at the front talking we were
42:49
going to get round the back. I
42:51
was going to give Devlin and Burns a leg
42:53
over the wall and they were going
42:55
to force the catch over the window, get
42:58
through the window and open the door
43:00
for the other one to get through
43:02
and charge to the front of the
43:04
house and grab hold of the old
43:06
woman. McLaughlin
43:08
said that they arranged to carry
43:11
out the break in on August
43:13
17th after meeting at the Golden
43:15
Dragon Cafe but he couldn't
43:17
do it because he had been arrested
43:19
for robbing his aunt's home and had
43:21
been in prison since. The
43:25
night after she met George McLaughlin, August
43:27
3rd, June Berry accompanied Edward Devlin and
43:31
Alfred Burns to the Rainbow Cafe
43:33
where June introduced the men to
43:36
17-year-old Marie Mill. In
43:41
the early hours of the morning, the
43:43
group went to Canning Street so June could pack a
43:45
bag to stay with
43:47
Devlin. However, when she and
43:49
Marie entered her room in the lodging house she
43:51
found a on and off boyfriend
43:54
Stanley Rubin asleep in her
43:56
bed. June
43:58
grabbed a suitcase and told Ruben
44:00
she was leaving but he followed
44:02
her and Marie outside to the
44:04
corner of Catherine Street where
44:07
he realized she was with two men
44:09
he hadn't seen before. Ruben
44:12
told June to decide whether she was going
44:14
to stay with him or leave with one
44:16
of the men. Stanley
44:19
Ruben later testified that June
44:21
told him she was choosing
44:23
Teddy, referring to Edward
44:25
Devlin by his nickname. Devlin,
44:29
Burns, June and Marie then went
44:31
to Central Station to store June's
44:33
suitcase while they looked for somewhere
44:36
to stay. Burns was
44:38
able to get a room for himself
44:40
and Marie at a boarding house on
44:42
Verillam Close and Devlin and
44:44
June stayed at a nearby hotel
44:47
called Mount Pleasant. The
44:50
following day when Burns and Devlin wanted
44:52
to go home to get a change
44:54
of close, they all took
44:56
the train from Liverpool to Manchester.
45:00
According to June and Marie the men
45:02
discussed their plans to break into an
45:04
old woman's house and asked each of
45:06
them to keep watch while they went
45:08
inside. June said
45:10
she saw Devlin brandishing a
45:12
glass cutter similar to one
45:15
found at his mother's house
45:17
after Devlin's arrest. Both
45:20
women denied that they had agreed to
45:22
help and Marie claimed they
45:24
returned to Liverpool later that night.
45:27
She had arranged to meet with
45:30
Burns and Devlin at the Rialto
45:32
cinema on August 17th at 4.30pm.
45:36
June claimed to have seen the pair
45:38
twice before then, once on
45:40
the 8th or 9th of August when
45:42
Burns and Devlin came to the boarding
45:44
house on Verillam Close by
45:46
which point she said that Marie had left.
45:50
June told them that she was due in
45:52
court at 10am that morning and she didn't
45:54
want to go so she asked if she
45:57
could go back to Manchester with them. made
46:00
with her mother who lived there. According
46:03
to June she saw them again on
46:05
August 16th when
46:07
they told her they had to
46:09
go to Liverpool for important business.
46:16
17-year-old Marie Milne
46:18
was one of over a dozen
46:21
children in an Indonesian English household.
46:24
She told the court that on the evening
46:26
she met Alfred Burns and Edward Devlin. It
46:29
was the first time she had stayed out all
46:32
night and it was the night
46:34
she lost her virginity. Marie
46:37
claimed that Burns had introduced himself
46:39
as Freddy Rimmer and she
46:41
only discovered his actual name a few
46:43
days later when June told her. After
46:47
that she said she didn't want to see
46:49
him again and that was why she left
46:52
the boarding house. However
46:54
Marie said it was a coincidence
46:57
that she bumped into Burns and
46:59
Devlin again on August 17th at
47:01
the Rialto Cinema. She
47:03
then agreed to go for something to eat
47:05
with them at the Golden Dragon Cafe. There
47:09
she alleged that Devlin who had ordered
47:12
sausages and chips complained about
47:14
the quality of the knives and
47:17
took out his own red-handled spring
47:19
blade to cut his dinner. Prosecutor
47:22
Basil Neild QC told the
47:25
court. After the
47:27
meal Marie and the prisoners discussed the
47:29
job to be done at Seven Cranbourne
47:31
Road. Burns asked Marie
47:33
if she had been on a job before and
47:36
she said no. Marie
47:39
Milne had testified at an earlier
47:41
hearing that Devlin then threatened her
47:43
with the knife as they walked
47:46
to Central Station but at
47:48
the trial she said he had threatened
47:50
her in the Golden Dragon Cafe. When
47:53
confronted with this inconsistency
47:56
she said that it had happened twice. According
48:00
to the witness she eventually agreed to
48:02
go with Burns and Devlin and
48:05
they explained what her role would be. Testifying
48:08
about what she was told to do
48:10
and Devlin's orders, Marie
48:12
stated, They said
48:15
that all I had to do was knock
48:17
on the door and say my mother sent
48:19
me, then I was to keep the
48:21
woman talking while he got in the back way.
48:24
He said it would be on the following night
48:26
and that with it being a Sunday, the
48:29
woman might be out. He
48:31
said I was to try and get invited into
48:33
the house and if I got
48:35
into the house, I had to
48:37
follow her and be behind the door so
48:39
that I would be between her and the
48:41
door. He described the
48:43
inside of the house and
48:45
said there were two mirrors in the kitchen
48:48
and one on top of the sideboard. He
48:51
said that Mrs. Rimmer always sat in
48:53
the big chair by the fire. Another
48:58
witness named Kenneth McNeil claimed
49:01
he saw Devlin, Burns and
49:03
Marie in a public house
49:05
later that night. Marie
49:08
confirmed that she recognized McNeil,
49:11
who was known to wear a navy blouse.
49:14
Marie said that the three of them went
49:16
to the dive the following day, where
49:19
they were seen by June's
49:21
ex-boyfriend Stanley Rubin, who testified
49:23
that he exchanged words with
49:25
Devlin about June. On
49:29
Sunday, August 19th, Marie
49:31
said that she met Burns and Devlin
49:34
at the Rialto at around 2.30pm and
49:37
they got a taxi to a
49:39
blitz site near the hospital on
49:41
Smith Down Road. She
49:44
specifically remembered that Burns had given
49:46
the driver two pounds and six
49:48
shillings to cover the two pound
49:51
fare. The
49:53
taxi driver James Emery recalled
49:55
Marie but did not recognize
49:57
the defendants. admitted
50:00
that he was only sure that he
50:02
had driven her to Smithdown Road on
50:04
the 19th as that was
50:06
the date police had questioned him about.
50:10
After going through the plan with Marie
50:12
once more, Burns and Devlin
50:14
gave her some money and told her to
50:16
go and watch a motion picture and
50:19
to meet them back at the blitz site on
50:21
Smithdown Road at 6 p.m.
50:25
Marie claimed that she was too afraid to
50:27
go against the pair's orders even
50:29
though she admitted they did not know where
50:31
she lived and waited on Smithdown
50:34
Road from 6 p.m. until 7 30 p.m.
50:36
but Burns and Devlin
50:39
didn't show up. She
50:42
went back to the Rialto where Burns
50:45
and Devlin happened to be and
50:47
asked them why they didn't turn up. They
50:50
told her they didn't need her on the job
50:53
anymore but when she complained that she
50:55
could have stayed to watch the end of the
50:57
movie they said she could
50:59
come with them. At
51:01
around 9 p.m. they returned to
51:03
the top of Cranbourne Road. Marie's
51:07
testimony continued. Burns
51:09
told me to wait on the corner of
51:11
Cranbourne Road for five minutes so they could
51:14
get in a back way. I
51:16
was told to go to the
51:18
house four houses past the entry
51:20
number seven. The last
51:23
I saw of them at that time was
51:25
when they turned up at Webster Road. I
51:28
waited on the corner until 10 30
51:31
p.m. I did not go
51:33
back to the house. Marie
51:37
said she got the bus back to
51:39
the Rialto and saw Burns and Devlin
51:41
across the road. She
51:44
asked them if they had done the job and
51:46
they said no but as they
51:49
walked along Upper Parliament Street
51:51
she noticed a stained handkerchief
51:53
wrapped around Devlin's hand and
51:55
wet stains on his suit.
51:58
Marie claimed she had a heard him whisper, will
52:01
the woman live? According
52:04
to Marie Burns replied, no,
52:07
to hell with the woman, we will
52:09
be out of Liverpool before long, we
52:12
will take the little Marie the bitch
52:14
with us. Continuing
52:18
her evidence, Marie explained she heard
52:20
Devlin complain about mud on his
52:23
shoes and losing his knife after
52:25
going through the park. When
52:28
she asked him about the stains on his
52:30
suit, he told her to
52:32
mind her own fucking business and
52:35
said it was beer. The
52:43
jury heard that Burns had been
52:45
wearing a brown pinstripe suit and
52:47
Devlin had been wearing a fawn-coloured
52:50
gabbardine suit, both of which had
52:52
been submitted to the forensic lab
52:54
for analysis. Dr
52:57
Firth, the director of the
52:59
Home Office Forensic Science Laboratory,
53:01
testified that he examined both
53:03
suits and shoes belonging to
53:05
the defendants. The
53:08
expert witness said there were visible
53:11
blood stains on Devlin's jacket, small
53:14
stains on the front left under the
53:16
lapel and some on the left
53:18
sleeve. Dr
53:20
Firth believed it was human blood
53:22
but there was not enough to
53:25
sample it for grouping. The
53:27
clothing appeared to have been washed.
53:31
Testimony from a manager at a Manchester
53:33
Dry Cleaner's alleged that a fawn suit
53:36
with a receipt made out to someone
53:38
named Devlin had been handed in on
53:40
August 23rd and that the
53:43
jacket appeared to be cleaner than
53:45
the trousers. Blood
53:48
stains were noted on Burns'
53:50
pinstripe suit trousers but the
53:52
stains, big enough to analyse,
53:54
came back as being Group
53:56
B Burns' blood type. Beatrice
54:00
Alice Rimmer. A
54:06
court was informed that prosecution
54:08
witness George McLaughlin was interviewed
54:10
in prison on September 20th.
54:13
Eventually provided information that led
54:16
detectives to June Bury. June
54:19
was questioned on October 4th
54:21
and Marie Milne was questioned
54:23
three days later. Their
54:27
initial statements were vastly different from
54:29
the evidence they gave in court.
54:32
However, officers involved in the
54:34
investigation denied making any suggestions
54:36
to them during the interviews.
54:40
Detective Leslie Skinner testified
54:42
about Edward Devlin's arrest,
54:45
telling the court that Devlin had
54:47
been immediately informed of why he
54:49
was being taken into custody. As
54:52
they transported him back to Liverpool in
54:54
the back of a police vehicle, Devlin
54:57
suddenly asked, Have you
54:59
seen the girls? June and
55:01
the Chinese bit. What did
55:04
they say? The
55:07
prosecutor told the jury having seen
55:09
Marie Milne who was half Indonesian,
55:12
they would know that was an apparent reference
55:14
to her. A
55:18
statement alleged to have been dictated by Devlin
55:20
to Inspector Lee's at Halliton Police Station was
55:22
then read to the court. Devlin had said
55:25
that he and Alfred Burns had
55:27
not been in Liverpool since
55:30
the 8th or 9th of August and the last time he
55:32
saw Marie was on the 5th or 6th of August when
55:37
they dropped her at the station in Manchester. Burns's
55:39
statement the following day can contain
55:45
the same information that
55:47
they had not been to Liverpool since the 8th or 9th
55:49
of August and
55:52
they could prove they had been in Manchester. Witness
55:58
George McLaughlin had been brought
56:00
to an identification parade in
56:02
mid-October 1951. He
56:06
positively identified Burns and Devlin
56:08
as the men he had
56:10
spoken with when discussing breaking
56:12
into Beatrice Alice Rimas High.
56:15
Stanley Rubin's June Berry's ex-lover
56:18
had positively identified Devlin as
56:20
the man he saw June
56:22
leaving with. Kenneth
56:25
McNeil, the witness who was said
56:27
to have seen the defendants in
56:29
Liverpool numerous times between the 16th
56:31
and 20th of August, failed to
56:33
identify either of them on the
56:36
stand. He
56:38
claimed he had been so nervous that
56:40
he deliberately picked out two random men
56:42
in the lineup. Beware
56:46
the majority of the prosecution
56:48
witnesses were unsavory characters. Prosecutor
56:51
Basil Neal QC told the
56:53
jury, you may
56:55
think Marie Milne was a willing
56:58
participant. You may also think
57:00
that George McLaughlin might have been ready
57:02
to be one of those who did
57:04
this act had he not been arrested
57:06
before it took place. You
57:08
may also wonder whether June Berry
57:10
herself was not in some measure
57:13
implicated. Therefore it is
57:15
proper to say that if any or
57:17
all of those witnesses in your view
57:19
were willing participants then it
57:22
is dangerous to act upon the
57:24
evidence of accomplices unless it is
57:26
corroborated by some outside evidence. That
57:32
said the prosecutor told jurors
57:34
they could believe the witnesses
57:36
without any corroboration at all.
57:40
After four months of heavy media
57:43
coverage featuring one side of the
57:45
case the accused were
57:47
finally able to give their account.
57:53
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