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Welcome to the show. I'm James. I'm Riley and Dine

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Bell. On today, we are discussing the

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Cohen Brothers movie. Oh, brother, where

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are that? Geez. Finally. Well,

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after, we'll argue you might get little too into it, but

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at the end of the day, they're just movies. Spoiler

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alert. Yeah. Thank you. You're the zombie. movie

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like a a metallica kind of movie,

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Zayo. We're gonna get some Zayo after this.

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Spoiler alert, here's a segment.

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We're the show that got a recent five star

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review that I will now read verbatim. This

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comes from Ishmael c m. They

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said, great podcast. I'd write more,

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but I fear that the unwashed and very

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young, may misconqueror disregard any

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nuance presented, and that is one responsibility

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I will not cast aside. Thank you. That's very

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responsible a view to

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say that. Fans of the show will understand.

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Yes. That's a reference to Last two episodes,

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really. Were you guys unwashed?

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I'm very confused No. We're washed.

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But those poor poor unwashed, they

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need a shower. They need some help. Let's move on.

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Spell. When did you give this movie out of ten? You picked

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this movie. I did. Thank goodness we chose

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it. I'm very excited. Oh, brother where

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Arthur is, is jam packed with

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action, great music, and a

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lovable quirk that sometimes tows a line

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of

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fever dream and instant classic, but it

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manages to stick the landing and become a movie that'll

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stick with you for years to come.

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Nine point two out of ten. Hard to agree,

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Riley. Nine point two. out of

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ten. Okay. Well, I'm glad I wrote this. Out

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of eighteen. Maybe it's not for

1:26

everyone, but this movie and its soundtrack

1:29

pushes me onto the sun is out of life

1:31

every time. I'm given an

1:33

eight point five. This is one of my Formative

1:36

movies, my family used to listen to the soundtrack

1:39

on repeat on on road trips.

1:41

Constance sounds trash. I get

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the Murdoch. Yeah. My three brothers.

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All singing harmony. Oh, that'd be Love Murdoch

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Family Choir. James Delightful. How

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have I never seen this? Oh, it's

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because no one ever watched it who was compelled to

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recommend it. Six point nine out of ten. You

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never watched it? No. I never saw it. Whoa.

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I've seen at least three other movies from

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these directors and I enjoy them more than this

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one. I mean the coen brother. Yeah. They're hit or miss.

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This is this is, like, boxed this is a Baxter

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Scruggs. Is that what it shows? It's called Scruggs. Buster

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Scruggs. I didn't know. Sorry. That

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Yeah. Music. A bunch of different stories.

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I think that this movie was, like, It's

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goofy and quirky and fun,

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but there's not enough It's not funny

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enough or emotional enough or anything

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enough for me to be like, I need to see this again

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that's why no one ever was like, you need

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what an adventure? Mm-mm. It is.

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It sure is a quest. An odyssey, you

5:02

might say. In nineteen thirty seven,

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Mississippi three convicts, Pete

5:06

Delmar and Ulysses Everett McGill,

5:08

escaped from a prison chain gang, a

5:10

prison chain gang. Watch out there

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in town. To

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retrieve a treasure, Everett claims is buried

5:16

in a valley scheduled for flooding.

5:18

They get a lift from an old blind hand car driver

5:21

who prophesies about their journey claiming

5:23

claiming they will find a fortune

5:25

but not the one they seek. and this

5:27

odyssey starts at proper. A lot of blind guys

5:29

in this movie. Oh, yeah. I know. Asterias

5:31

too. Go for it. After being betrayed by

5:33

Pete's cousin near nearly getting caught by the ruthless

5:35

share of Cooley and being baptized in a

5:37

river except Everett, the men pick up

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Tommy Johnson, a young black man who claims he

5:41

sold his soul to the devil in exchange for

5:43

sick at Tarsk gills. Together, they

5:45

record a song as the soggy bottom

5:47

boys before parting ways to avoid the

5:49

police. Unbeknownst to them, the recording becomes

5:51

a major hit. Following a wild encounter

5:53

with bank robber George Babies Nelson,

5:56

thus men are seduced by three singing

5:58

women. But Delmar and Everett, to

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find Pete, apparently turned into a toad. who

6:02

is later squished by the one eyed con

6:04

artist Big Dan who mugs them.

6:07

The two survivors reach Everett's hometown

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where his wife Penny has told his seven daughters

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that he's dead. Evett loses a fight

6:13

with Penny's new suitor, Vernon. Delmar

6:15

and Everett then discover that Pete is alive,

6:17

having been turned in by the women,

6:19

not transmagnified. They break

6:21

him out and he confesses to giving away the treasure's

6:23

location. Everett then confesses,

6:26

the treasure was a story he made up to

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convince Pete and Delmar to help him escape and

6:30

stop his wife from getting remarried.

6:32

Pete's outrage is interrupted when they stumble

6:34

upon a KKK rally where Tommy

6:36

is about to be hanged led by gubernatorial

6:39

candidate, Homer Stokes. that

6:41

men managed to kill Big Dan who was also

6:43

there with a burning cross and escaped

6:45

with Tommy. DETERMINED TO GET HIS WIFE BACK,

6:47

Everett convinces the others to sneak into

6:49

a Stoke's campaign dinner she is attending

6:51

disguised as musicians. Performing their

6:53

radio hit causes the crowd to go

6:55

wild despite the protestations

6:57

of strokes. Protestations. Yeah.

7:01

More teeth than d. Governor Pappy

7:03

O'Dano's Daniel seizes the

7:05

opportunity and grants the boys full pardons while

7:07

Penny agrees to remarry Everett if

7:09

he retrieves her her original range for

7:11

their given in the valley. from

7:13

the cabin in the valley, which Everett had earlier

7:15

claimed was the location of the treasure. There,

7:17

sheriff Cooley is waiting and orders them

7:19

hanged despite the pardons. As Everett prays

7:21

to god in desperation, the valley is

7:23

flooded and they are saved. Back in

7:25

town, Everett presents the ring to

7:27

Penny who had who identifies it as her ant's

7:30

ring and declares she'll only marry him

7:32

with her wedding languages now at the bottom of a

7:34

lake. They passed by the blind man who

7:36

cranks his hand car off towards

7:38

the horizon. prophecyzing.

7:41

Oh, dear. That's a that's a different

7:43

song. I also just like jump into

7:45

No. If you raise teenagers for whom this

7:47

was their favorite movie. Oh, man. I'd be like, wow, I

7:49

made it. What wholesome kids? Like, oh, dude,

7:51

loved it. We are wholesome. I'm pretty

7:53

wholesome. You know they're like drama kids. They just

7:55

love They AP

7:57

English and This is the the mandate of

7:59

those Right. Right. It was straight up on

8:01

repeat. Like, I just love I just love all

8:03

these songs. Some of them are kinda slow.

8:05

You know, you're not the only one. You're the one of

8:07

Grammy. Did you watch this a lot as as a

8:09

young? A lot. No. You've seen this

8:11

multiple times? Yes. Like, probably five

8:13

or six. I do very much enjoy it.

8:15

And part of it goes to, I think of

8:17

I'm a man of constant sorrow, and

8:19

then I just watch the movie because it's like man

8:21

that song is just so

8:22

Good. I think, though, is I've

8:25

got concerns. When you're watching it, you're like,

8:27

that's a, that sounds great. b,

8:30

there's no way that George Clooney because

8:33

Roman numeral one, it doesn't really

8:35

look like it's coming out of his mouth. Right. And

8:37

Roman numeral two -- Why? -- because we're going

8:39

through team c already. This is a sub menu.

8:41

Thank you. Roman numeral two is

8:43

if you tell me that George Clooney is

8:45

that good looking and that good at acting Ant

8:47

can sing like that. I'll just kill myself.

8:49

No. He can't sing. He apparently tried

8:51

and trained two sing the songs. Oh, really?

8:54

No. Wow. Why does this? Like, Ant

8:56

is a famous singer. Mhmm. So they're

8:58

like, oh, you can sing. Give him a shot. He he

9:00

cannot. I saw him. to the degree that he would be

9:02

a country music phenom in a land that

9:04

only has radio Hey, man. I

9:06

saw I saw a meme recently comparing him

9:08

to Keri Grant. I think it was Keri

9:10

Grant as, like, attractive

9:13

Hollywood actor who's willing to make himself

9:15

look dumb for for humor.

9:17

And that's George Clintonie. Is

9:19

it? Well, he he looks like I feel

9:21

like a lot of his comedy just comes from

9:23

just him doing, like, silly phases and

9:25

stuff. He's not, like, super,

9:27

super funny himself. He's just kinda

9:29

like, what do you call it? Sardonic?

9:31

Rye? It's a good word. There's some

9:33

Regardless. one of the most cringe kind

9:35

of, like, goofball scenes is earlier in

9:38

this movie, which is when they're in the

9:40

barn. That's and the cops are

9:42

outside and they're surrounded. That's the part where

9:44

it really changes the tone. You're like, oh, okay. This is the

9:46

level of silliness we're doing. Yeah. And in

9:48

that scene, I think that he gets he

9:50

starts acting like you about. He gets really silly,

9:52

you know. Oh, we're we're in a we're

9:54

in a spot. Damn. We're in a touch spot. Who

9:56

says it a million times? And

9:58

as far as that, The first three

10:00

times are the cameras on him and the

10:02

fourth time you would just hear him in the

10:04

background as, like, they're

10:06

realizing that the fire is spreading or

10:08

something and just like, well, and you just hear me in the

10:10

background. Damn, we're gonna talk about it. Like four

10:12

times. When they're leaving the barn, he's, like,

10:14

trying to like, it's a

10:16

configuration. and he's hitting the walls that are just

10:18

engulfed in flames with a blanket or

10:20

something completely ineffectual. That's

10:22

when I was like, okay. That's some

10:24

slapstick. Like, this is basically Slab second. Oh, yeah.

10:26

It's great. I mean, like, the there's so much

10:28

physical comedy in this movie. Like,

10:30

I don't know, the unexpected like,

10:34

do you see big Dan, like, tearing

10:36

the the branches off the tree as they're, like, having

10:38

this casual conversation, then

10:40

suddenly just, like, smack some he's, like,

10:42

he's, like, oh, yeah. What are you

10:44

doing? Oh, that's great. Yeah. That's

10:46

awesome. What's the deal? What's the deal, Dan? Big

10:48

Dan. Yeah. Yeah. This

10:50

movie comes at you fast. It does. because,

10:52

like, in the first fifteen minutes, you go

10:54

through

10:54

so much, like, the escape there's the

10:57

train where they get yanked off the train because Pete

10:59

falls. Mhmm. They record the

11:01

song. They get the congregation. Like,

11:04

This must have been fifteen minutes. Yeah. That's a

11:06

high speed movie. Really? I think it's

11:08

the only thing you have to keep this up

11:10

for a lot of the movie. I feel like

11:12

this this the rate of which events are

11:14

happening is just, like,

11:16

blasting you. Yeah. I I don't

11:18

mind it because of the silliness

11:20

and lightness. because, like, they don't care. They're

11:21

like, oh, that was crazy. Yeah. Yeah. There's

11:23

so many events and some of the scenes are like, how

11:26

is this tied in at all? But this movie does

11:28

one of those, like, big world small

11:30

window things where, like, you're

11:32

following this group of guys. And

11:34

then suddenly we're having these scenes with, like, the

11:36

Mayoral race, or the governor race

11:38

it is. Yeah. And you're like,

11:40

who cares? But that's almost like

11:42

its own movie happening off screen.

11:44

that they play the small role. And, like, there

11:46

could be a movie that's just about this

11:49

guy trying to retain his governorship.

11:51

Right. I I really I appreciated

11:53

that sort of like the background plot

11:56

that's that's playing out while the main

11:58

adventure is happening, and then it kind of all

11:59

gets tied together at the end. Oh. it was neat. Yeah.

12:02

because you go, like, oh, this poppy guy. He's

12:04

a bad man. He's so mean, whatever.

12:06

Oh, this other guy. He looks like the big old house key.

12:08

Yeah. He this other guy is so fun and light, and then it's like,

12:10

oh, that other guy. is

12:12

actually a racist in, like, that grand

12:14

klansman or whatever they call it. And this other

12:16

guy's not actually that bad. I I

12:18

think he's I think he's actually called Okay.

12:20

I'm not sure. But there is a rank

12:22

in the KKK that I saw pointed out that

12:24

is called grand cyclops -- Yeah. --

12:26

which is why But then Big Dan is

12:28

there, but he is Well, we haven't explained the

12:31

whole Homer thing. Yeah.

12:33

So we should probably say let's do it now.

12:35

This opening crawl, it shows It says,

12:37

they say at the opening this movie that this is based

12:39

on the

12:39

odyssey by Homer. Yeah. Well, did

12:42

they even say that? It says, oh, Muse.

12:45

relay the story or whatever. I think

12:47

it it has the quote from the odyssey.

12:49

It doesn't say, this is the odyssey,

12:51

but it It has the same, like,

12:53

appeal to the Muse, which happens in a lot of

12:55

Greek stuff going on. But Those are the first

12:57

lines of the Odyssey. At the front of the Odyssey.

12:59

Again, main guy's name is Ulysses. It's

13:02

obviously based on Ulysses, by the way, is

13:04

the Roman reading of Homer.

13:06

and Roman tellings of

13:09

the odyssey they call Homer,

13:11

ulysses.

13:12

Homer. It's

13:13

Homer's the odyssey, is it not? Homer is

13:15

the author of the Odyssey. Wait. Wait. Who's the main

13:17

character? Audisias. Oh, yes. Yes. Yes.

13:19

It is. My bad. Audisias is

13:21

Ulysses. My bad. Sorry. I just had brain

13:24

problem. me too. the Simpsons?

13:27

Yeah. So the Colin Brothers have said obviously

13:29

this is based off the odyssey. A

13:31

lot of the events track pretty

13:34

closely. I mean, like, there's some there's some

13:36

stuff that, like, doesn't really track

13:38

exactly, like, home or stokes is

13:41

it's it's still unclear. I was trying to find out who

13:43

he is supposed to be. They've never read the book.

13:45

That's the thing. Yes. The only

13:47

one who's read it is Delmar. that

13:49

actor is the only one that said he would ever write. At the

13:51

time, they filmed anyways. Well, it's the thing same

13:53

thing with Fargo. because at the

13:55

beginning of Fargo, this says this based on its true

13:57

story. And it was just a lie. What is

13:59

is It's not based on a true story. It's

14:01

just completely fiction. They

14:03

just say that they're getting in their mood. It's it's actually

14:05

kinda scandalous. I think it's kinda funny

14:07

because it's like you would you would totally believe

14:09

that it was based on a true story because the

14:11

characters and everyone are so like, Yeah.

14:14

Ordinary -- Mhmm. -- which is part of

14:16

its charm? Not this one, though. This

14:18

one is not so They're not ordinary.

14:20

Ordinary, but at the same time, I

14:22

don't know, as a Canadian, I don't know anyone from

14:24

Mississippi. So, like, I can

14:26

sort of believe that in nineteen

14:28

thirty seven, everybody's talking

14:30

like this and merging me, oh,

14:32

no. No. Lord. Okay. I mean, they probably talk like

14:34

that, but I'm there like, I won't use

14:36

pop. I'm a Dapper Dan, man. And I've had

14:38

this full personality of that part

14:40

of my There's so much Dapper Dan in this movie

14:42

too -- Yeah. -- everywhere. But

14:45

anyway, second who elected you leader of this

14:47

outfit? So there is a rather one with capacity for

14:49

haptech thought. I love all his, like,

14:51

wordy explanations for things.

14:53

Yes. it is so good. I'm an educated man.

14:55

But was he? I don't think he was. Well, he was

14:57

put in jail for a practicing law without a

14:59

license, so I think he could just he was a

15:01

bullshitter. Yeah. He's a red enough convinced

15:03

people he was a lawyer. Yeah. Yeah. What were we

15:05

gonna say?

15:05

Sorry. Well, where I was gonna close the loop on this whole

15:07

thing is the reason he brought up this, like,

15:10

Grand Wizard potentially

15:12

grand cyclops KKK

15:15

rank is because you're tying into the

15:17

analogs between the actual Odyssey

15:19

and this movie. and,

15:20

like, do all all the things that they encounter, like,

15:23

the sirens, for example, those women.

15:25

That's obviously from the odyssey.

15:26

So you're saying, this is

15:28

actually what I thought as well when they get to the KKK

15:31

thing. Is that oh, they

15:33

encounter a cyclops just like

15:35

Odysseus does? Well, Big Dan is

15:37

the cyclops Yeah.

15:39

Big Dan is the cyclops because he has a bit an eye patch.

15:41

So he's a one eye person, but I also thought,

15:43

oh, maybe that's the cyclops. This

15:46

this, you know, because I knew that the KKA had stupid

15:48

ranks like that. In fact, I'm gonna Google them because they're hilarious.

15:50

They're gonna watch this one.

15:54

Yeah. It's kind of annoying. I went and

15:56

try and, like, find out exactly

15:58

how all of the

15:59

events in the movie correspond to the events in

16:02

the in the odyssey. But because

16:04

it's used, because

16:05

it's apparently used in school a

16:07

lot as people as a way to,

16:09

like, help deconstruct

16:11

the the odyssey, the actual

16:13

odyssey, the all

16:15

those lists are, like, locked

16:18

behind paywalls because, like, these Spark

16:20

Notes type sites have been

16:22

like, oh, you want the whole thing you gotta pay for

16:24

it. And I was like, dang it. That's why

16:25

you can see, like, the first page, but you can't

16:27

see the second page. Anyways, we don't need to, like,

16:29

fully break down how everything, like I

16:31

was waiting for you to say you've done that and you made it open

16:34

source. You made your own breakdown -- Nope. --

16:36

with quotes. Didn't put that much effort

16:38

into it. But I guess I wanted to

16:40

ask you guys if you felt you were

16:42

saying that it like it moves really fast and a

16:44

lot of things happen. Do you think that it

16:46

was like unwise of

16:48

them to try and, like, map

16:50

everything on to the Odyssey so so

16:52

closely because it is it's only an

16:54

hour and forty six minutes. And a lot

16:56

of things happen as you say. Was it

16:58

too fast? I don't know. I don't think that was a

17:00

concern of theirs. I don't think they're like, oh, no. We're

17:02

gonna map it one to one because I don't think they did. A lot of things are

17:04

quite different. Yeah. But, I mean, I

17:06

think I think regardless more

17:08

like, when I was writing the synopsis on, like,

17:10

a lot of things happen here. Like, there's a lot

17:12

of, like, discrete encounters first, they meet this guy,

17:14

and then they meet this guy, and then they barely escape from this guy,

17:16

and then they meet these other people. And then they get seduced,

17:18

and it's like it's like there's there's a

17:20

lot of random mix. It sounds like fun little sketches.

17:22

Yeah. Yeah. That's wrote down, feels like skipped

17:25

comedy. But I think because so much of it

17:27

doesn't have any weight, it doesn't feel

17:29

exhausting. Mhmm. Like, it's going really fast

17:31

because they don't care and doesn't

17:33

come up again. It doesn't matter for

17:35

a lot of it. Like, oh, they

17:37

almost got caught, but they're completely fine

17:39

now. Yeah. Like enough. The maybe face George

17:41

thing stands out. being, like, it's own it's

17:43

like a scene with no consequences. I don't think

17:45

that even funny just got a ride and then we're

17:47

done with him. That's a funny thing. I I

17:49

was writing the synopsis and I was

17:52

basing it off of the Wikipedia one and the

17:54

Wikipedia one just completely skips George

17:56

Nelson and I was like, wait, something

17:58

in between here and I went and checked something else and I was like, oh,

18:00

yeah, there's Jordan Nelson in there,

18:02

which is funny because it's it's a

18:04

scene that you can skip and still kinda get the

18:06

the gist. Like, it doesn't really affect the

18:08

movie. But after that

18:10

whole Esca Bay where they robbed the bank or whatever they're

18:12

sitting on the fire and he's like, oh,

18:14

he's, you know, with these high risk taking

18:16

types. They go up and then they gotta come down.

18:18

He'll be up again. I doubt it's the last we

18:20

see of George Nelson. And then we do see him at

18:22

the end. So it's, like, even for this, like, little scene that

18:24

doesn't really matter at all, they set something up and

18:26

pay it off. And I can actually say a

18:28

great joke too. Yeah. cow killer.

18:32

That's a lot. And then with someone's like

18:34

bringing the cow in behind the

18:36

I thought so when he's walking away, I thought he was

18:38

gonna blow up. because he had all the dynamite on gonna walk into

18:40

the distance and just explode. He's like, I'm

18:42

just gonna go for a walk, guys. Yeah.

18:45

I was hoping for that, actually. I feel

18:47

like things like that or why I love

18:49

the co and brother so much? Because even

18:51

when the movie isn't

18:53

like, has some

18:55

ultimately unsatisfying elements to

18:58

it? their craft they

19:00

are so tight at their craft. They they

19:02

they know that when you set something up

19:04

like that, they you gotta pay it off. So even if it

19:06

doesn't end up meaning really anything, even,

19:08

like, even if it ends up just kinda contributing

19:10

to the theme and sort of like a roundabout way

19:12

and not really important, it's tight and

19:14

you can feel that it's tight. Yeah.

19:16

because you're like, I remember that. You set that up and I wasn't

19:18

even paying attention. Totally. And I think, yeah, that's

19:21

why that not mattering. It sounds like a

19:23

negative thing, but I do I do agree. It

19:25

feels positive. because even the bank

19:27

robbery, they immediately lose the money. Oh,

19:29

and then there's this app. They he gets

19:31

rearrested. They just

19:32

break them

19:33

out again. But it's just, like, It adds

19:35

to that, like, lovable fever dream

19:38

essence of this movie, especially with, like, the color

19:40

grading. It just feels like you're in

19:42

a dream Yeah. But I actually really

19:44

liked it. Apparently, this was one of the

19:46

first films to use like

19:48

digital, CPA

19:50

tone, color, Yeah. because they, like, re put it back

19:52

on film after they grind or something like

19:54

that. Yeah. It's, like, one of the first movies in North America

19:56

that had done it. It's, like, you have the film,

19:58

then you grade it. You

19:59

put

19:59

it back. I can The movie was one of the first to

20:02

extensively use digital color correction to give

20:04

the film an autumnal c p

20:06

intended look. Oh, it's autumnal. That's a good word.

20:08

That is a good word. One of the first to extensively

20:10

use digital color correction in two

20:12

thousand 402 thousand. Yeah.

20:14

This isn't you two thousand. Oh, okay.

20:16

Sure. mean, the matrix came out to, like, nineteen

20:18

ninety nine. I just figured by then they were using digital

20:20

color correction, but there weren't a ton of digital

20:23

movies at all, really, at that point,

20:24

I guess. Sure. I don't know. I don't

20:27

know what I'm talking about. But

20:29

anyways, it looked beautiful. Also, Roger

20:31

Deacon's did the cinematography, who

20:33

leave -- Yep. -- bizarre. Many times, is

20:35

one of the best king king of the king

20:37

of the world, speaking of the kings

20:39

of the world, get a load

20:41

of these stupid rankings

20:44

talking about the cyclops and stuff from these

20:47

this would you call them a cult? The

20:49

hell are they? The KKK? Yeah. Okay.

20:52

I guess. Cultish organization. think that's what the last

20:54

day. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. So they

20:56

got, like, grand giant who is

20:58

assisted by four goblins.

21:00

They got Titans. What? They

21:03

got the Grand Dragons!

21:05

It's just about eight Squires. I did

21:07

not know this. And girl, was there, you

21:09

didn't? grandscribe, but this is

21:11

ridiculous. Oh, yeah. They're the

21:13

most self important, like,

21:16

neck beauty Page article

21:17

nine of so. Like, I wanna be a goblin, but

21:19

I wanna be a I wanna be a goblin. Wow.

21:22

He's actually one of the goblins to the Grand

21:24

Giant. That's crazy. The Grand

21:26

Giant. Wow. His wife is so

21:28

obedient, sick. So okay.

21:30

Let's try to make some sense of this movie, I

21:32

guess. Who's who's a protagonist? Yeah. It's

21:34

obviously It's Everett. It's

21:36

gotta be every, but, like, in in typicalcomb brother's

21:38

fashion, there's no, like, character arcs. Everyone

21:40

just ends the movie same place they

21:42

started basically. Yeah. That's

21:44

what they always do and they just focus on the wackiness

21:46

of the story. It's true. It's more about

21:49

static characters. We

21:51

talked a lot about this when we did

21:53

love No country. You're all there for Lebowski. No.

21:55

I wasn't, which is I was very sad

21:57

about because I I love that movie. We talked about

21:59

this in

21:59

no country for Old Men where

22:02

Speiler alert for no country old

22:04

men. Skip ahead twenty seconds. The bad

22:06

guy survives. He doesn't really learn

22:09

anything. The other guy dies.

22:11

Well, Ellen, right? I

22:13

forget -- Yeah. Yeah. -- I don't remember. Anyways,

22:15

it's an interesting way to make film and

22:17

I'm surprised that I like it so much --

22:19

Mhmm. -- when the

22:21

people really learning

22:22

things. But I think it's because they're so

22:25

good at, like, injecting themes

22:27

and

22:27

imagery and meaning into into

22:30

the movie in so many other ways. So I wish

22:32

I did sequels. Like, you've just

22:34

created this world that now I want to see more in

22:36

because you haven't concluded anything. Something I

22:38

wanna see more. Like, I wish there was more Big

22:40

Lebowski. They're

22:41

just There should be a co in brother's multiverse

22:44

movie. where, like, the Jesus

22:46

beats up with what was the name Dan in this

22:48

movie? Yeah. Be Dan. No. No. No. No. The

22:50

John Churchill character. Pete, P0P

22:52

Yeah. Yeah. I love p. Imagine.

22:54

Definitely Barton Fink. They all get

22:56

together. Job deferral is is amazing

22:58

in this movie. I

23:00

just love how, like, eccentric and weird he is,

23:02

especially because he doesn't actually say or do

23:04

that much because he's The most

23:05

eccentric thing he did, I loved it so much

23:08

is when he does the Yodeling. Yeah.

23:10

He has so good. He has the perfect,

23:12

like, thousand yard stare. Like, his eyes

23:14

just go, like, dude, and he's like, I

23:16

have access a yodeling play. Yeah. Yeah.

23:18

His eyes are, like, rolling back in his head a little

23:20

bit, and he's, like, whoo. For

23:23

some reason, I don't know. It's we like,

23:25

it's something that I maybe normally wouldn't like,

23:27

but that when he's getting whipped and tortured,

23:29

his screams are like

23:32

They don't sound like somebody getting

23:35

whipped. He's like, yeah.

23:37

That was actually spot on.

23:40

I was like, what is this? I

23:42

don't know. I just like I thought it was just perfect

23:44

because I'm like, yeah. That's John Tutoro. Yeah.

23:46

Just date. He's not gonna do a normal stream. Scream

23:48

is gonna do his own stream. fair. He's

23:50

paid off. Is his mouth, like, naturally

23:53

kinda sideways? Or does he just

23:55

do that on a character by character basis?

23:57

Talk to the side? I guess bottom jaw is

23:59

kinda, like, Just kinda over there.

23:59

Mhmm. That was been enough attention.

24:01

I think he just looks like that.

24:03

He's an yeah. I

24:04

mean, he's a

24:05

fellow. What

24:08

are the themes? What

24:10

are the themes -- Loyalty. --

24:12

loyalty? Loyalty.

24:14

To who? that's the thing with Odyssey and with this

24:17

movie. because the whole deal on the Odyssey

24:19

is that Adesis has gone for,

24:21

like, twenty years. and

24:23

then politically back home, they're making

24:25

his wife re marry. Have you

24:27

read the odyssey? Of course, I have

24:29

not. No, I'm just joking that. I knew

24:31

she's being forced to remarried, like and she's

24:34

given, like, the choice of among a hundred

24:36

suitors or something like that. Mhmm.

24:38

And so he's

24:40

just hoping that he's gonna get there in

24:42

in time and her to still be

24:44

his wife, and that's kinda what's going on

24:46

here. But kinda flipped

24:49

here. I don't know. Well, I think she has

24:51

suitors. It's Vernon. It's one guy.

24:53

Yeah. I mean, he's, like, represents all of

24:55

them, I guess, he could. I

24:58

feel like he's not forced to ring there, though. It's

25:00

just totally in her bowl in her camp. She

25:02

wants the bonus fee days. Yeah.

25:04

This guy's not bona fide. bonafide?

25:06

Yeah. That's sort of a theme kind of

25:08

like, you know, trying to work your way up

25:10

into the elite echelons of society.

25:14

And

25:14

can you do that by swindling your way

25:16

there? Or can you or do you have to work hard?

25:18

Maybe? Well,

25:19

he gets in trouble for manipulating

25:21

and lying people. That's a white goblin to prison. Right? Mhmm.

25:23

And then that's how he gets out of prison too. He

25:25

lies through the people he is locked to. He says,

25:27

yeah. There's this treasure buried over there. Let's

25:29

go. Right. Right. They they help them escape based

25:31

on that. I feel like I

25:34

I

25:34

guess that's sort of related to this. I feel

25:36

like the the most interesting theme

25:38

for me was them

25:41

being convicts and, like, as

25:43

they're going through these adventures, kinda like

25:46

having discussions and and encounters that

25:48

that make them ruminate on

25:50

the the

25:51

law and

25:53

human institutions and what you're supposed to do

25:55

in in society versus kind

25:58

of like a non human frame of

26:00

mind or like a like a broader kind

26:02

of like mystic sort of view of what's

26:04

going on. Right? That kinda ties into that line

26:06

where they're they're saying, like, oh, well, I'm

26:08

safe now. I'm good to go. It's not

26:10

according to the state of Mississippi. Right. And I love

26:12

the inversion there because ever it

26:14

says, you fools tried

26:16

to get saved, you know,

26:18

with an in a spiritual sense, but you're not

26:20

saved in a in a practical sense.

26:22

But at the end, they get

26:24

there and they have been saved in a practical

26:26

sense, but sheriff Cooley is like,

26:28

they're like, oh, it's the law and he's

26:30

like, the law. The law is a human

26:32

institution. because he satan Yeah. But

26:34

he represents this sort of more primordial, like,

26:37

deeper force that you can't He gets described

26:39

as Satan, though, because And a dog

26:41

-- Yeah. -- and the the eyes and the white man from what's

26:43

his face, Tommy. Tommy Johnson, like, pretty

26:45

much describes the Sheriff Cooley. Right. It implies

26:47

that Sheriff Cooley represents

26:51

the devil that he's sold to. Yeah. And

26:53

then when you see him, the first,

26:55

like, couple scenes he's in, he always has

26:57

fire reflecting in his son in his glass.

26:59

Yeah. song of us is a nice kind of character, you

27:01

know. Which is funny because I read that

27:03

he represents Poseidon because I

27:05

guess is Poseidon? Poseidon is

27:07

always isn't antagonistic. to Odyssey CS.

27:10

In in the Odyssey. Yeah. Okay.

27:12

Well, there you go. He's always trying to kill him.

27:14

Does he have a hound? A hound is the

27:16

trident. I think it's a dolphin, actually.

27:20

grabbing it. Yeah. By its non

27:22

existent name? No. You just plug you get

27:24

two dolphins to put two fingers in each blow hole

27:26

and then the urolog Hey, Jack. You're

27:28

all like that. And

27:30

I love And I love your breath. Yeah.

27:32

It's all good. I love how at the end,

27:35

he's faced with Sheriff Cooley being, like, no, you

27:37

haven't outrun fate.

27:39

the And so then he,

27:40

like, breaks down and he's, like,

27:43

Okay. My only option left is to appeal

27:45

to this, you know, thing that

27:47

I don't believe in, I guess. He prays

27:49

to God. And then

27:52

His prayers are, quote unquote, answered, the valley is flooded,

27:54

and then he immediately goes back to just being kinda,

27:56

like -- Yes. -- kept as a lead star part

27:58

of the movie. Yeah. Is that a really hangs on it? No. That

28:01

the flood even happened. I think it's saying, oh my god.

28:03

It's like what do they call it? It's

28:05

not though because it is set up.

28:07

Yeah. in a way. I heard it. I said, oh,

28:09

there'll be a there's it's gonna flood in four

28:11

days, and then we watch, like, seven nights in

28:13

the movie. But they they say it,

28:16

multiple

28:16

times, and it's also in, like, the newspaper

28:18

that -- Yeah. -- they should burn

28:20

in the foreground. Weird. because it's, like,

28:22

oh, whatever will they giant flood

28:24

literally washes away the house and everybody. That's

28:26

why it's perfect. That's why it's perfect

28:29

because if it wasn't set up

28:31

at all, than it would be a deus ex machina. But

28:33

because it has been set up multiple

28:35

times, we we were hearing about a flood the whole

28:37

movie. And so when it actually happens,

28:39

you're like, it's kinda like a puzzle

28:41

piece, like, sliding into place.

28:43

You're like, oh, this is fate. This was this

28:45

was always going to happen. And so it's

28:47

but then that is perfect because that brings up

28:49

the question, it's like, you know, if

28:51

we didn't have that, could it be like, we we would

28:53

probably be thinking, what? So if it's

28:56

prayers worked or what they did

28:58

work out. They did work. And then they did work, but

29:00

it was also all was going to happen. So then there's

29:02

also some of it, like, a statistics.

29:04

They actually literally worked because If he

29:06

didn't pray, he could have got

29:08

hanged thirty seconds earlier and

29:10

died. And then the flood still happens, but the flood

29:12

doesn't save him. guess so. Yeah. But

29:14

regardless, I'm saying that well, that's

29:16

still not like a supernatural explanation. That's

29:18

right. But yeah. What we know was

29:20

What? It was gone. We know. We

29:22

know. We know. That it was gone. Yeah. I just love

29:24

I just you know, it's perfect co and brother

29:26

stuff because they will kind of, like,

29:29

reference these things and kind of like

29:31

trick you into considering them, and

29:33

then they'll flip it right back. And at the end, he's, you

29:35

know, back to us. Yeah. That's the closest thing to

29:37

an arc because his compatriots get

29:40

saved earlier on. And but

29:42

he's the only

29:42

one he's the holdout. Right? And then he, you

29:44

know, he attacks them for doing that. It says

29:46

it's stupid. The litters blittles

29:48

their decisions. So it's kinda

29:49

like, oh, finally, this is his chance now.

29:52

He finally comes around and, like, closes the loop

29:54

on his on his archer -- Right. -- and

29:56

pendants. He's I like his character especially there's

29:58

the campfire scene before the

29:59

second time Sheriff Cooley almost

30:02

catches him. And they're talking about what would you do

30:04

with the money?

30:05

and,

30:06

like, Pete says,

30:08

he wants maitre d. Is that

30:10

what you're saying? He wants he wants to, like, start a restaurant

30:12

at Del Mar, wants land. And

30:14

Everett just, like, Oh, and, like, kinda shuffles away the question

30:16

and action of her answers because he knows there's

30:18

no money. because he never thought about it. Yeah.

30:20

He's like, oh, never thought even Pete

30:23

calls him out. He's like, that didn't sound like you.

30:25

Mhmm. He's like, oh,

30:27

the police are here. Like, all of a sudden,

30:29

it switches off. Someone it it pays

30:31

off too. there is no money. It's like, oh, that makes sense. That's

30:33

why he didn't think what was he gonna do with four

30:35

hundred thousand dollars because he was never going to have four

30:37

hundred thousand dollars. He would have

30:38

thought about what is he gonna do with one

30:41

point two? because the original should have had that. I loved that scene

30:43

where they're talking about their plans with the money because I

30:45

feel like it's a really great moment of characterization.

30:47

Not just plot, but characterization. Yeah. And

30:49

it was was really

30:51

interesting because Pete's dream is that,

30:53

like, you'd imagine you'd imagine that

30:56

someone with what it was at one point two

30:58

million dollars in nineteen thirty seven. That's a lot

31:00

of free money. And

31:02

his dream is to start a

31:03

restaurant not so

31:05

that he can, like, be on top

31:07

but so that he can be the maitre d of the

31:10

restaurant and meet people who

31:12

are

31:12

truly elite and

31:13

have like a few underlings being

31:16

like, yes, serve, no serve, blah blah. Mhmm. And

31:18

then the last thing he says

31:20

is, and all my meals for

31:22

free. I know. Yeah. think

31:25

his his ambition is limited. Yeah. I

31:27

just thought that was a great moment of characterization

31:29

of in the in the sense that these guys

31:31

these are people who don't even Like,

31:34

they're not even able to conceive of a

31:36

world in which they are truly on

31:38

top. Like, they their dreams are just

31:40

to not be complete.

31:42

Nobody is wallowing in the mud. Like, he wants food

31:44

in the belly. No. He wants free meals,

31:46

but it wouldn't free, buddy, because you're

31:48

paying for it. Yeah. Yeah. But

31:50

they don't charge me. Right. And

31:52

Delmar has and Delmar has this limited conception

31:54

of what it means to be a man. You ain't no kind of

31:56

man if you don't got land, he says.

31:58

So it's like, I

32:00

love the the characterization of both of them. They have

32:02

these limited ideas and then it goes to Everett.

32:05

And at first,

32:05

I'm like, oh, that's weird that the I actually

32:07

didn't get that he didn't say

32:09

that he didn't say a plan because there's no treasure. Well, it's

32:11

because it's foreshadowing. Right. We don't know yet. And I'm

32:13

like, this is a weird opportunity to not

32:16

characterize Everett. I think maybe that's because we

32:18

get so much characterization from him. You get the

32:20

fact that it's one point two million is

32:22

characterizing him because he's overshooting it. That's an

32:24

unrealistic amount of money. Is that

32:26

-- Totally. -- totally, man. Earlier, they get

32:28

paid ten dollars. They're like, me

32:30

hard too. It's like, okay. Well, I just ran Where did it

32:32

even get that? I just figured it was just like a

32:34

bunch of gold. I don't know. Like, at that

32:36

point, I guess. Yeah. But I love

32:38

that we

32:38

still get the characterization of Everett through all

32:40

these other interactions. You know, we

32:42

figure out that he's vain

32:45

he sort of, like, obviously, has a high opinion

32:47

of himself. He's he's very

32:49

sort

32:49

of pseudo educated,

32:52

not really. But so you've

32:54

added on this last that last section there.

32:56

But before I was gonna interrupt you, the

32:58

DAP or Dan conversations and

33:00

everything. Remind me of both of you. Why?

33:02

because they're both gel men. I look

33:04

over your It's got gel.

33:06

Sorry. Saw all of us.

33:09

Stop. Okay. Yeah. Sorry that we have to do our hair to have it

33:11

make though. Your hair is just like every time I

33:13

watch a wavy nice. Every time I I, like,

33:15

I've watched I was watching the movie a couple

33:17

times, and I'd just be like, It's just Riley there in the mirror. see

33:19

him. He's getting his coffee ready in

33:21

the mirror. Listen. Doing his hair. What do

33:23

you do? Do you do your hair or did? What do you do

33:25

to your hair in the morning? I wake

33:27

i wake up up. a shower.

33:28

Uh-huh. And then I took a board

33:30

of airbrush, and I just brush my hair. Bore

33:33

hair? Bore hair. Wow. Nothing

33:35

too exciting. That would be great.

33:37

would

33:37

love to be able to do that. Do you wear a hair net?

33:40

No.

33:40

I actually was inspired by

33:42

this guy because he was

33:44

putting so much product in his hair. I was like, maybe that's what I need

33:46

to do because nothing appears to have enough hold for

33:48

me. George Clooney? Remember he's

33:50

just like top in the cone against the

33:52

side of it. Yeah. I thought you're talking to him or

33:54

me. It was thick. Yeah. This guy was talking

33:56

with you. Well, I don't know. I'm right. You inspired

33:59

me. I thought you're talking

33:59

to him. I

34:00

was talking to him. I know I inspire you already. I just

34:03

didn't know this about the the

34:05

hair. Any

34:08

significance to that we already talked about

34:10

multiple blind people. But do you guys think there's any significance that?

34:12

Well, one of them, the radio the

34:14

guy who runs the radio place is

34:18

just that's a convenience, like plot convenience because the whole time nobody

34:20

knows who the soggy bottom boys

34:22

are, what they look like. So that

34:24

includes the one staff member at the

34:28

radio station. Right. Yeah. The

34:30

other the other time, I guess, it just

34:32

adds to the mysticism of the

34:34

fortune teller

34:36

person. Yeah. It's a it's a trope. Just magical black man.

34:38

They -- Mhmm. -- helps the people and

34:40

tells them what their fortune is, which it was a

34:42

nitpick of mine. It's like, that's just so cheesy.

34:46

and, like, lame and something that probably

34:48

well, at the time, I

34:50

guess, was not, you know, something

34:53

that should have been canceled, but I'm like, it's just silly. Yeah. I do,

34:55

I mean, I do wonder though -- The Combrothers. -- is

34:57

a Combrothers a Jewish a. Oh, that

35:00

makes it fun. Yeah. That

35:02

doesn't even help, but it's not my cart, which I

35:04

thought was fine. I didn't notice it on my cart. And then,

35:06

like, that would slow you down. I

35:08

mean, putting Busy Blindness. It's like, doing

35:10

it, and they don't help him move the cart at all. So they're just sitting there. Well, he's

35:12

magical. He's got magical. It's true. magical

35:15

black. powers. I was thinking

35:17

about how long can I pump that thing for?

35:20

Like, I would suck after probably ten

35:22

minutes off. I'm imagining that

35:24

character though as a

35:26

white guy. And I'm like, I feel like that just makes it

35:28

worse. I feel like the fact

35:30

that there are people and we

35:32

see the signs

35:34

of, like, still there being, like, oppression in period. Still, know,

35:36

like, all the people all the prisoners are black except

35:38

for these guys basically. They're doing

35:40

the work. everywhere.

35:42

And I feel like having that be sort

35:44

of still a member of the the quote

35:46

unquote other at that time I

35:49

don't know. It, like, adds to the character. I think it's because he's

35:52

magical. Yeah. This is why this is why the

35:54

magical black man trope exists. has

35:56

been wise, but no,

35:58

he's magical. Why do you think that they Oh, sincere.

36:00

That's that's exactly he's magical. He

36:02

could just be like, oh, it reminds me of

36:04

a story about or,

36:06

like, oh, well, I've learned everything that goes up must come down. Like, he could have just been

36:08

wise, but it's like he's like, he

36:10

said, a seer. Well, he is he does he does

36:12

the safe. For his son. things like a cow

36:15

on a roof. He does correspond to the

36:17

dual story. He does correspond

36:20

to Tiresias, who is

36:22

a blind prophet of Apollo in in

36:24

the odyssey. and

36:26

he gives them a prophecy about their journey. And he was definitely white.

36:28

Yeah. Yeah. Well, he's pretty

36:30

even knows back then. Yeah. I don't know.

36:34

So anyways Mhmm. Yeah. Why do you think that you open

36:36

the movie with that sequence of the chain

36:38

gang singing and busting up rocks?

36:42

And then it just kinda like fades the black and the movie, like, starts over. Yeah.

36:44

And you see another group of prisoners. Well, you see

36:46

The only thing that the first time you see wiper prisoners running

36:48

away. The funny thing is that the only thing

36:51

that really makes that weird is the fact that they fade to

36:53

black and then fade back in and they're running away from

36:56

the chain gang. But they they

36:58

could have like, made

37:00

that all the same scene, basically, and have them

37:02

still, like, singing in the background. But they

37:04

but these main characters don't look anything like

37:06

any of the characters in the chain gang. there's

37:08

a clear racial difference there. I wonder what that's what's up

37:10

with that on our show. Is it just a song you wanted to

37:12

have on the soundtrack? because that song is

37:16

actually from like way back in the day. Oh, it's an actual recording of

37:18

prisoners singing on a chain gang. Wow. You

37:20

mean, not just the song with that record. I'm

37:22

recording. Wow. Which I think is

37:24

really interesting. And I wonder if they were

37:26

just like,

37:27

maybe there's a reason they can't have it on at the

37:29

same time as the new footage. I don't understand

37:32

what that fate to black was either. Like,

37:34

I don't don't

37:34

know what it'd add. I mean, it was maybe they just were, like, we need to, like, set the tone in the movie. We're gonna open

37:36

with this. Yeah. That was just the most And I think

37:39

it did a good job at that because it

37:41

definitely kinda, like, brings you

37:44

in to the fact that, like, alright. This is the setting.

37:46

This

37:46

is the bleakness that people are they're

37:48

facing. There's gonna be a lot of singing.

37:50

What are they doing by the way? So

37:53

there's existing

37:54

road. There's a pile of rocks on

37:56

the side of the road. Are they pulverizing it so

37:58

that the road has, like, gravel on it?

38:00

Like a three quarter inch cross making making gravel. Yeah.

38:03

I don't know. What are they doing? What are they doing

38:05

over there? Twenty twenty two.

38:09

no idea why chain gangs exist in machines

38:11

that do that. Yeah. It's

38:14

crazy. What song

38:15

are they singing? No.

38:17

Days never finished. Master

38:19

got me working. Some day

38:22

loaded. It's not the same one as they

38:24

sing at the end when they're, like, about to go in

38:26

the graves. And the three buttons for second, was weird think

38:28

okay. Does that apologize? No. I just

38:30

think I'm like I'm like trying to think, like, where

38:32

do I know that from? I think Cartman

38:36

sings that in a south park when he's like That sounds

38:38

like it's something that could be offensive then, but

38:40

I was gonna say the wheels on the bus.

38:43

the wheels on the

38:46

bus screen and round just as they're

38:48

working. They didn't have that back

38:50

then. Yeah. I guess That's four wheel.

38:52

aren't. You got to

38:54

go, do the loans. I'm barely here.

38:56

That's my favorite song. You should be a Changuine.

38:59

Your song. You don't have the ankles for

39:02

it. But, yeah, there's some cool hand there's some cool

39:04

hand Luke stuff going on. Have you seen

39:06

that movie? it has,

39:08

like, prisoners in a chain gang kind

39:10

of thing going on as well. That's the movie

39:12

that has the whole, like I

39:14

don't know. They're gonna drink now, boss. gonna

39:16

drink without a song. Right? You know, like, they do that call and response between the

39:18

prison guard and the prisoner. Oh.

39:21

Wipe it off, boss. fire

39:23

it off Sheriff Cooley has been compared

39:25

to boss Godfrey in cool hand,

39:28

Luke. Just so you know, that's

39:30

of course you gotta have your

39:32

movie history. Man, I find myself with a

39:34

shockingly little amount to say about this. I

39:36

think particularly because when I was

39:38

watching, it was hard for

39:40

me to write notes.

39:42

I asked you guys about the pace of it earlier.

39:44

And what I meant

39:45

to say was that I found the

39:46

pace kind of It's

39:49

like

39:49

very very engaging which

39:52

made

39:52

it hard for me to write notes. I

39:54

wrote down a couple of

39:56

my favorite jokes where I lauled. Yeah. And that

39:58

was about it. you Yeah. I tried to do that

40:00

in my game too. I feel like they also

40:02

answer all the questions that they set up.

40:04

So, like, what do

40:06

we discuss about? that answered in

40:08

the movie, I guess. Like, I don't know. They don't leave a

40:10

whole lot open other than just the ending because

40:12

it just ends. It's like, where where

40:14

are you competing Delmar? It's just like,

40:17

I'm not gonna get married to you and he goes,

40:19

what's the one I'm

40:20

married you with? Well, they went on and that I mean, that's

40:22

sometime later, I guess. What's the deal with

40:24

her saying I counted the three? She's

40:26

made up her mind. She's counted three. I made him on my account of three. I

40:28

know. She's on the couch. She counted three. Got down.

40:30

You hear she counted three. We gotta go get that

40:32

ring. I think that's just his, like, he

40:36

knows at from being married to her that that's that means that there's

40:38

no more discussion about it.

40:40

I love his, like, I love

40:42

his He's really asked his friend to the bottom

40:46

of the That dam. That dam lake. I don't I think

40:48

it's implied that they're not gonna get re married

40:50

now because he can't he can't go get it. I thought he

40:52

was doing it. What the way he did? He didn't have scuba

40:54

equipment at

40:56

that time. hold

40:56

your breath. Get

40:57

a long pipe. Get a long He

40:59

could figure it out. Yeah. Bamboo bamboo shoe.

41:01

Like, they're doing the old cartoon.

41:03

That's a brother.

41:05

thou art art? They do.

41:06

In the south, people die, brother. Like

41:09

in the Philippines and stuff, people die just with

41:11

air compressors and hoses. It's really bad for

41:13

you. Yeah. But so I would not You should not do

41:15

that. Yeah. Take up right. Don't do that.

41:17

It's low tech? Man, I I feel like this

41:19

is a co in brother's thing

41:22

where they don't really like like the it's

41:24

almost like there there's there's there are ups

41:26

and downs, but it's almost like while you're watching

41:28

the movie, you don't it's never

41:32

so engrossing that you are, like, feeling

41:36

super big emotions. This is exactly what I

41:38

said. I can

41:40

even keel. It's exactly my stat my not status. My slogan. You're

41:42

synops. You're you're synced. slogan. It's just

41:44

like it's okay. Like, if

41:46

it's on, you're like, I I'm

41:48

watching this. I don't know. It feels like a

41:50

play. Like, I don't I don't feel like there's any

41:52

danger, but I'm like enjoying my time

41:54

watching it the entire time from

41:55

start to finish. Are you

41:57

saying that there's no players have high stakes or danger

41:59

or

41:59

that you're emotionally

42:01

invested in? In what? No.

42:03

You haven't seen enough plays. seen

42:06

played

42:06

yourself too. You

42:08

know, I've seen many plays. You know what I'll say is that

42:10

this movie probably would be

42:14

significantly worse if not for the

42:16

music. Like, I feel like I give

42:17

what did I give it? It's a it's

42:19

a music movie. I feel like it might be like

42:22

a six. if there if the music if the music wasn't there. Yeah. I agree with you.

42:24

I have a six point nine. It could easily be a six. They're

42:26

also very long scenes. Like, the music,

42:28

the concert

42:30

is a long scene. The initial recording of the song is a long

42:32

scene. They they show a lot of it. Yeah. It's like

42:34

the They play like -- Yeah. -- tire

42:36

song. Like, it is It's

42:39

long. They harmonized beautifully though. Oh, for sure.

42:40

Another thing that's kind of like, come on.

42:42

How can these three guys who are trained together

42:44

just happen to be the best band in the land?

42:48

I think

42:48

back in the day and everything to do. True? Yeah. because I can't

42:51

imagine

42:51

seeing gospel songs, whatever you they were listening

42:53

to back then. Yeah. And, I mean, they were on

42:55

the chain gang, so they obviously

42:57

practiced singing a little bit. And the

43:00

other guy sold to sold to the devil. So they're Well,

43:02

yeah. That's explained. freaking jam.

43:04

That that And he was That's Canon. That's that's

43:06

kidding. We know that. It's alright. And apparently,

43:08

that's based off, I mean, a legend about an

43:10

existing Yeah. An existing guitar

43:12

player, like a

43:14

real person. something Johnson. His name is also Johnson, I lost it.

43:16

Muddy Waters. Jimmy Hendrix?

43:19

Oh, Tommy Johnson. He

43:22

shares his name and story with Tommy Johnson, a blues musician who is said to

43:24

have sold the soul to the devil, also attributed

43:26

to Robert Johnson. Another another

43:30

black blue This is so sold my soul to the

43:32

devil. It seems like at that

43:34

time. My brother also sold his soul to the

43:36

devil. White people couldn't quite conceptualize

43:38

how black people were so good at music. Hey.

43:40

Must have sold their soul of the Something's going

43:42

on here. You can't be better. Wait a second.

43:44

I thought we were the boss.

43:46

That's messed up. Yeah. You

43:48

used to it. I don't yeah.

43:51

What is oh, I

43:53

think we're going to nitpicks and nitpicks. Oh, let me hit

43:56

that button

43:58

then. nitpicks. Oh,

44:01

that's not so good. Related to what we were just

44:04

saying it's what we're just

44:06

saying great line. Delmar

44:08

says, oh, son. For that, you

44:10

traded your everlasting soul. Well, I

44:12

wasn't using it.

44:14

Hell yeah. Just sitting around. The

44:16

quotes are so good. I just I love when he goes to buy

44:19

the Dipper Dan. He's like, well, he displays

44:21

a geological oddity. Yeah. It's two

44:23

weeks from everywhere. Yeah. Like, that is

44:25

so Yeah. It's There's so many I wouldn't stand out to me.

44:27

Well, I thought, like, one of the funniest parts of the whole

44:29

thing was when they finally get

44:31

beat back. And then

44:34

Delaware's, like, We thought you

44:36

were towed and then Pete's like, what? I thought

44:38

you you was a towed.

44:42

He's just it's so nosful. seek the treasure.

44:44

That whole theater scene is so

44:48

funny. Dude, not seek

44:50

the treasure. Yeah. What's the deal

44:52

with that? It's like a yelling whisperer. Exactly.

44:58

So fun. So good. That corresponds to

45:00

the part of the odyssey where he

45:02

goes to the Hades or something and

45:04

the spirits warn him against doing so

45:08

like his spirits of his dead compatriots. But I guess

45:10

Pete Pete is like they think he's dead, but then

45:12

he's not. Mhmm. It also corresponds

45:14

to

45:14

the main character is a frog in

45:18

Odyssey. Well, that's not true.

45:18

Like, you're a Swedish French. Oh,

45:22

that's all. French had it hard enough. Are you thinking

45:24

of are you thinking of ratatouille?

45:27

And that's a rat. That that was a rat. Yeah. How about the

45:30

sirens, though? That was a weird

45:32

scene. I thought it was well done. Why did he leave

45:34

his clothes like that? makes

45:36

like he left on his own volition? He left his

45:38

clothes laid out. Like, there's a person there? No. I

45:40

think the idea is that they got him

45:42

naked because they were seducing him.

45:44

And then they dragged him off to the authorities. Who left his clothes

45:46

shaped like a man? The toad actually set him up like

45:48

that. Look at him. Why was their toe to the shoe?

45:50

Looking for

45:52

flies. It doesn't look like he smells that good. That would mean true. Why

45:54

are his clothes like that? I don't know because

45:56

then it works better. Yeah. That's absolutely I feel

45:58

like there's a ton of things like that. just gonna

46:02

be, like, Where do you get those beards from? They just show up on stage with these

46:04

beards like what? Yeah. Yeah. Tommy, all of a sudden,

46:06

has his guitar after being kidnapped

46:08

by the

46:10

KKK. He's just at the concert with his guitar. He's not mine. I don't think

46:12

they had his guitar. Oh, I

46:14

think oh, they can't they can't

46:15

redo this maybe

46:18

because that's that Homer Stokes

46:20

exactly kicked their guitar his guitar his

46:22

guitar They came out of nowhere. No. No. They're playing

46:24

random instruments. Like, they're playing banjo in the car at

46:26

certain point. There probably was guitar around and

46:28

you just grabbed it as a starter

46:30

case. I feel

46:31

magical too. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's a

46:33

number of things like that early on. They just,

46:35

like, suddenly they don't have a car and then they have

46:37

a car and, you know, that's fine.

46:39

Head picked over, but

46:42

when they when the guy's saying that he's gonna pay them to they

46:44

sing into the can. And then

46:46

Everett, like, on quick on

46:49

his feet, it's like, Steven

46:51

Root, by the way. He's like, there's six

46:53

of us here. Oh, yeah. Only four of us

46:55

can write. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. That was weird.

46:57

On account, two of us can only sign

46:59

x's or whatever. Yeah. because only four of us can write. And it's like, that's a good

47:01

line. And it's also a subtle way to make the joke. It's not like a

47:03

two on the nose. You have to go you have to, like,

47:05

compute it for a second.

47:08

You're like, Yeah. I'm related to that. I like how

47:10

they had a pretty diverse cast, but there weren't

47:12

too many tropes or stereotypes.

47:14

Like, the blonde guy didn't make fun

47:15

of him in any point

47:17

in time, there was never jokes about people's looks.

47:20

It was always about the character

47:22

themselves and the the person themselves

47:24

because I feel like so many comedies. it's like fun

47:26

of people and you're laughing at this weird person

47:28

-- Mhmm. -- versus like the stuff that they get

47:30

into. Yeah. They use a

47:32

the you the small person small

47:34

person in

47:34

this movie to characterize a bad guy, I guess. Or

47:36

they have a well, they refer him

47:38

as a midget, on the stage like

47:40

sweeping -- Yeah. -- sweeping up.

47:42

Is that meant to characterize or, like, foreshadow that this

47:44

governor, the guy racing riding or

47:46

trying to be governor could end up

47:50

being evil? He's like, I know the word for it back in the third No.

47:52

I know that, but I'm just saying for the

47:54

audience, it's like, oh,

47:56

he's he's

47:56

kind of using this person as a gimmick.

47:59

I think Let me

47:59

let me learn that he's, like, a

48:02

k wizard or whatever. Well, he was using them

48:04

because he's, like, I'm for the little man and then he had

48:06

a little man with him. Yeah. Which is,

48:08

like, I understand why he's doing it. But

48:10

for the for the audience, you're like, yeah, that's

48:12

kind of gross to do that.

48:14

III mean, obviously,

48:16

that would be gross to do now, but I feel like

48:18

when I see that and and it said in nineteen

48:20

thirty seven, I'm like, yeah. Yeah. Probably no one

48:22

has a problem with this. Yeah. I know that, but

48:24

but you do as audience. So it's foreshadowing for you. It's, like, even if that wasn't

48:26

the only universe foreshadowing. You know what I'm

48:28

saying? That wouldn't indicate that he's a

48:30

bad person. in

48:32

nineteen

48:32

thirty seven. That would just indicate that he's everyone ever

48:35

no one You

48:35

keep wanting and I keep wanting to give you the

48:37

exact same explanation. So I understand your

48:40

accent. I understand,

48:42

but I also think that in two thousand, that people probably wouldn't have thought that was that

48:44

offensive. Yeah. For sure. Say that. That's a rope

48:46

bottle. You see that? No. I'm

48:48

saying that of what

48:50

the audience in two thousand or or at

48:52

the at the time you're watching, regardless of

48:54

what we think of it. At that time,

48:56

you can't think it's normal. Yeah. No one would

48:58

identify that Not like I know. In

49:00

order for your argument to work, people in

49:02

the movie would also be able to identify that

49:04

as something No. No. That's not my argument at all.

49:06

Well, you're you're really on this.

49:08

Well, I saying in order for your argument to work, that would have to be

49:10

the key. I know what you're saying, because it had to be done purposely.

49:12

It's wrong. No.

49:14

It's

49:14

not.

49:15

I'm right. What do you think? Leave a

49:17

comment down below. Is it just about,

49:19

you know, do you watch movies in

49:21

in the context of their time or do

49:23

you watch them in the context of modern time. No. It's not

49:25

about that. Yes. Here's two here's two

49:28

nitpicks. When they're running toward the train at the

49:30

beginning, like, they're gonna try to hop

49:32

on it. try to hop on They're sprinting

49:34

towards his train, and then you can see the

49:36

conductor riding in his engine,

49:38

and he doesn't even look out over at them.

49:40

He just look he just

49:42

to that as well. I was kinda, like, maybe just don't care. Like,

49:44

you're not gonna stop the train. Like, get a golf

49:46

ball. He's so common.

49:48

Yeah. because I also was,

49:50

like, they when they start further down the train, then, like, if they're gonna show the

49:52

conductor, like, clearly right there. But I thought

49:54

I I just wanted the conductor, like, shoulder check.

49:56

But, like, god.

49:58

No. Like look in their directions because no

50:00

way he didn't see them. Well, I think it's just

50:02

like he's probably tried to

50:04

deal with this a few times, and it happens so often that

50:06

he's just kinda like Yeah. Did you notice that the

50:08

flower bags, the homeless guys, were in front of her

50:11

Papa O'Donnells, the governor? Oh, Papa

50:13

O' Daniels. That's it. Yeah. His face

50:15

and name on the Oh, that's pretty fun. Poppies. Love the

50:18

early right after they get

50:20

the prophecy,

50:21

the he's like,

50:22

well, how how can he make those prophecies about or whatever? He's like, well, it's just, you know,

50:25

ever ever it says, well, it's natural that, you know,

50:27

someone deprived of their other senses

50:29

would but maybe develop an extra

50:32

sensory perception or whatever. Blah, the

50:34

absolute supernatural abilities. And the person's

50:36

like, he said he wouldn't we wouldn't get the fortune.

50:38

He's like, he's an ignorant old man, Pete. What do you hear immediately

50:41

switches. Nedpick, the

50:43

lake baptism, like when they're

50:45

all singing the forest, Yep.

50:48

Sounds great. Mhmm. But it doesn't sound like they're singing in a

50:50

forest. It really sounds like it's recorded in a

50:52

building. You can hear like the reverb of the --

50:54

Yeah. -- of the building they're in. But

50:57

I

50:57

think that's supposed to be because it's like, oh, we're

50:59

having a mystical soul mate or whatever. That's why

51:01

we're getting that fever dream thing ties into it where I feel

51:03

like it just explains the way all of it of being like,

51:05

oh, this is just a weird imagining.

51:08

Maybe.

51:08

It's like an original recording like

51:10

that other song you're talking about, and they just want

51:12

to use it. And it's like, don't listen too

51:14

closely because it really doesn't fit. I It seems

51:17

like bad ADR to me. I think it was

51:19

very intentional. It's a merger. It

51:21

it feels like it

51:23

feels like the Rivendell and and Lord of the

51:25

Rings or something, wherever it's kinda everything's kinda got

51:27

like a glossy not glossy, but

51:29

like a shimmer. shimmer, faded out quality

51:32

to it, and, like, people's voices have sort of,

51:34

like, a little bit of a Yeah. Especially because the

51:36

audio is

51:38

pretty good in this movie. Oh, I feel like they if they really wanted to have it be like

51:40

it was in a forest they would have. because I remember when the

51:42

kid shoots the gun as they're walking up

51:45

to hogwash's house,

51:47

I got startled because a

51:49

gunshot, actually, that came out of my surround sound. Oh, wow. I

51:51

was like, oh. Yeah. It's

51:52

not just like a flat movie, like,

51:54

many many are I feel like if they've gone through the effort to do some

51:57

scenes where it actually is very directional, they probably could've

51:59

just I think the fact

52:00

that there was immersion breaking for you is valid James.

52:02

Thank you. But it was intentional and

52:05

it enhanced it for us. That's that's great. That kid was

52:07

one of the worst parts of the movie. It's like, when he

52:09

comes in and saves them, that was so cheesy in

52:11

such a negative way. And with

52:13

all the kids' the cops in the car breaks you.

52:15

Really, guys. I mean, to make it even worse. It's

52:17

great. Is after he saves them and

52:20

apparently, like, drives them far enough away that the

52:22

cops aren't an issue anymore.

52:24

They're just like, get out of here, kid, go

52:26

home. Yeah. Like, what? And then he walks in the

52:28

direction because there's a whole thing, which is the wrong way.

52:30

So I was like, okay. Maybe it's closer to town. I

52:32

don't know. They're assholes. But it's what do you mean? Yeah. They're assholes. That was so

52:34

great. Come on, guys. Let's get we're

52:36

gonna RUNN0FT and it's

52:38

like, okay. So he

52:40

knew there's spelling it so that he

52:42

doesn't understand, but he understands. Yeah. It was a great little

52:44

it was a great little moment. That was a

52:46

very, like,

52:48

concise tight way to get across, like, some on a resentment

52:50

that he asked for his dad. because he

52:52

knows because he's

52:53

his dad spells out the runoff thing when he's

52:55

talking about his mom, he

52:58

so often that the kid knows what it means now in context, just

53:00

in letters instead of the word. No. Never

53:02

mind. I just

53:03

I just love how it's

53:06

both an incorrect grammatical phrase

53:08

and also spelled wrong?

53:10

Yeah. Like, she run offed

53:13

Like, she ran off is what you mean to say, but then you

53:16

wanna say run offed and then you spell it with a

53:18

text to people. word now. His mother's

53:20

run offed. It's gonna be Yeah.

53:22

I know. I just love the double

53:24

the double

53:25

layer there. It

53:27

is. Oh,

53:28

in that in that scene where the the baptism scene or whatever,

53:30

before that Delmar, I don't

53:32

know

53:32

why. There are things like this that happened

53:34

in the movie, and I'm

53:35

just like, I'm trying

53:37

to decipher it. Delmar offers

53:40

Everett the golfer. He's, like,

53:42

three times just, like, yeah, golfer. And he

53:44

just, like, keeps talking about

53:46

other stuff. anywhere.

53:48

He's like, yeah, go for. And he's

53:50

like, as they start realizing everyone's walking down,

53:52

he's like, I think a third of a go for would

53:54

only what my appetite for Morris of that. And he's like, you

53:56

can have the whole thing. We shared about it. And it's like

53:58

they're talking about the go for

53:59

as, like, the the film is completely

54:02

shifting focus away from their conversation to

54:04

what's happening. That was really

54:06

funny. Hey, big for me. I liked the fight between

54:08

Everett and Waldrig. What are I

54:10

don't remember his first name. Oh, Vernon

54:12

Waldrig. Vernon. wall drip. That's right. Yeah. I thought it was just so funny

54:14

how they go in, like, the old time he

54:16

fighting stance and start punching each

54:18

other. And then, I don't

54:20

know, just as soon

54:22

as it ends, it, like, turns into an

54:24

insell insell. It's, like, never trust a female

54:26

dead. Domart, females are

54:28

all always breaking art, Michael. Okay.

54:30

season loses the fight. I love the whole monologue. I watched that video once and explaining,

54:32

like, why they used to use that fighting stance,

54:35

but I can't remember anymore. It

54:38

was, like, I think

54:38

it has to do with, like, because it's a paradox away from you. Yeah. It's it

54:40

has to do with range because, like, there's no

54:42

glove. It was paradoxing and just

54:45

couldn't take that many hits or something like that. Oh, interesting.

54:48

Vernon I love Vernon

54:50

Waldrips, like, wide eyes all the time.

54:52

He's just, like, staring with Mm-mm.

54:54

Like, and he's, like, shifting his eyes around.

54:56

Dude, they actually He's actually corporates.

54:58

No. I love Delmar. Tim

55:01

Blake Nelson. He's so good to look dumb. He's amazing.

55:03

Whereas, like, John Churchill can look he looked dumb in a

55:05

caricature way. Whereas, like, Tim Blake

55:08

Nelson, you're

55:10

just like, It

55:10

just looks like a low IQ individually. He's so good at it. This is one of his first

55:12

acting roles too. So I guess third -- Really? --

55:14

the Cohen brothers had never seen him act before. They just,

55:16

like, knew who he was. He was like a

55:20

neighbor or something. And they gave him the script, and he was like, am I just supposed

55:22

to read over this? And they're like, no. We want you to, like,

55:24

be one of the main

55:25

guys. What? Wow. He's

55:27

only fifty eight. I think

55:29

he looks awful. He

55:32

looks awful. Half his

55:34

IMDB is in preproduction right now

55:36

or in preproduction. He does He's in

55:38

WATCHMAN. Great show. We're on

55:39

the show. Yeah. He's been a ton of

55:41

stuff. Wait.

55:42

Apparently Oh, he was looking glass.

55:44

Yeah. So these these other

55:47

characters, professional musicians, did all the

55:50

singing. Mhmm. There may be other characters

55:52

that did it for as well, but I'm I'm I think

55:54

some of these some musicians, like, performed

55:56

their own stuff on, like, the stage scenes

55:58

and stuff. Like, the actual musicians, not the real like, they weren't important

56:00

in the movie. But Tim Blake

56:02

Nelson did his own singing in in the jail

56:04

house now. It was a good tongue to him.

56:06

Because, man, when he starts singing, I'm just

56:08

like, that has to be him because it's like so

56:10

perfect. Mhmm. Like, it does sound like

56:12

him whereas But they also

56:14

did a really good job casting

56:16

the the singers

56:18

for like, I believe that that was

56:20

Oh, honey. I knew it wasn't. George told me his voice. I

56:22

did not first watch. George said it was was played by Dan Timinski

56:25

for the singing and John

56:27

Turturros Harley Allen. But

56:30

Yeah. When they start singing, you're like, they did a really

56:32

good job of casting because I don't go, like, well,

56:34

you did. But I did not go, like,

56:36

oh, that one hundred percent no

56:38

chance at storytelling. I was like there's probably eighty five

56:41

to ninety percent chance that that's

56:43

not storytelling. It didn't sound like

56:45

he it would be his voice. I think I had heard him

56:47

try to sing before and he was tone deaf

56:49

or something. So epic. The

56:51

acting is so good for all the secondary characters.

56:53

I mean, the main as well. like Daniel

56:56

Vaughan Bargain, who's the sheriff,

56:58

very unsettling. The daughters talking about

57:00

being bona fide and all their friends

57:02

are so funny in all of them.

57:04

He's just so fun to fight. He was

57:07

a suitor. Big Dan being so

57:09

ruthless and so charismatic. Like, it was

57:11

Yeah. I mean, so good. Except for re squish

57:13

the frog. Yeah. That was a laryngeal against the tree. That was rude. Just

57:15

that was so good. But, yeah, just

57:17

all the secondary actors

57:19

got squished. So Also, missus Incredible

57:22

is is Penny is his wife. No

57:24

way. Holly Hunter. Oh, I hate those

57:26

voice the voice of missus Incredible.

57:28

Those hats. The worst

57:30

hats. Oh, awesome. Look at that. Speaking of Holly Hunter,

57:32

oh, the hats. I don't like

57:34

that. Don't get me started with

57:36

the hats. There are dances where a big hit for pick

57:38

for me. Anytime characters are dancing in

57:40

this movie, mostly at the end on the on the stage.

57:42

JJK has

57:44

moves. Oh, you mean the the main I wonder if

57:46

that's real at all because, like, I wonder if that's real

57:48

at all because, like, I'm like, this is a whole

57:51

I honestly don't think that it wasn't real. I'm like, this

57:54

is an ordeal. Like, wow.

57:56

That's a lot of people to

57:58

learn. I see them doing

57:59

it. Well, I can imagine the Cohen Brothers

58:02

kinda trolling the KKR by making them do

58:04

this silly dance. But there's

58:06

so many so many, like, large groups of men doing big

58:08

dance things. Like, you've seen those YouTube

58:10

videos of, like, a bunch of Muslims out of

58:12

some kind of celebration or Jews

58:14

as well. and they're all dancing in this

58:16

weird way and it's only guys there. And they and you

58:18

just put like a turn

58:19

down for what on it or something. Have you

58:21

seen those videos? so funny. Well, I get

58:23

an Indian wedding or something, and there's just like a big giant train going through.

58:26

That's a that's a good

58:28

time.

58:28

Excuse me?

58:30

What?

58:30

And I can't say Indian wedding, Trey. I don't know. You're talking about it. What?

58:32

No. I haven't seen it. please. We haven't seen it

58:34

in Indian wedding. conversation, but, like,

58:37

Yeah. It'll be a a group of, like, a big religious group

58:40

of guys in, like, religious

58:42

garb, and they're all, like

58:44

Oh, you're talking about religious stuff.

58:46

Yeah. Oh, okay. I was like, you're just talking about, like, a of men dancing

58:48

together. Yeah. That's what. Yeah. It's on the

58:51

indie one. AKA, my Saturday night.

58:54

You should see these videos. They're hilarious. What can I

58:56

Google for that? Anyhow Oh, by the way, there

58:58

was a speed of googling random stuff.

59:01

Remember at the It's

59:04

when the guy who was supposed to be mayor who was

59:06

like the good guy turns out is revealed

59:08

to be the bad guy and the mob

59:10

like carries him out Not the one that

59:12

was real. That is a real thing. Oh, yeah.

59:14

What it Right amount of

59:16

time. amount of time. So I googled, like,

59:18

mob Carrie

59:20

Wood. I was like, there's no way I'm ever gonna get there. But yeah. Yeah.

59:22

Yeah. It's called riding a rail. A lot of

59:24

the times that they were being they

59:27

would they would evolve The rail

59:29

thing would involve, like, tarring and feathering. Yeah. And then

59:31

they dumped them out -- like, humiliation.

59:33

Yeah. They dumped them on the

59:35

outskirts of town. I'm gonna see

59:37

what I was stupid combination of words I can get to be

59:40

like like a group

59:44

of religious Men -- Don't do it. -- dancing -- What? --

59:46

song. Yes. Just exactly

59:48

it. Like, Islamic remix dance. That's one

59:50

-- turn your -- awesome style tag no dance.

59:54

Oh, here's a good one. Muslim versus Jewish bandsaw. Oh,

59:56

these are hilarious orthodox Jews. Yeah. I

59:58

mean, there's a lot of really cool

1:00:01

dances done by large

1:00:04

groups of men primarily. When you put a random song on

1:00:06

music, okay. Okay.

1:00:08

Anyways, I just love anyways. That's

1:00:10

why I think it could be realistic that they

1:00:13

actually did these crazy. Like like the army loves,

1:00:16

like, drill and marching around and

1:00:18

stuff. They had some of that in this and the ceremony we

1:00:20

see. I just think

1:00:22

it thought some of the moves they did were just, like, kind of

1:00:24

outlandish. Dude, their views are outlandish, and look for

1:00:26

their wearing. They've so eccentric people. It's very

1:00:28

well could be real

1:00:30

either way. to be a trans soggy bottom boys did dance funny. And I also like --

1:00:32

Yeah. -- like where he doesn't move his upper body at all

1:00:34

at the concert. He just moved dancing with his

1:00:36

legs. Right. Right. This is so funny. And, like,

1:00:38

a Delmar

1:00:40

and like, oh, I don't have room, name, blah, and and Pete's in

1:00:42

the background doing this like -- Yeah.

1:00:44

-- like just going back and

1:00:46

forth with his arms, go ahead,

1:00:48

like, I just I even what call Audio have no idea what to Yeah.

1:00:51

I don't know what he's doing either. At some point,

1:00:53

they got their arms, like, linked together, and they're

1:00:55

going in a circle, like, kind

1:00:58

of going forward and then going back and then going forward. It's very Hillbelly.

1:01:00

It is like, I don't even know yeah. I guess

1:01:02

so. That's I've never seen a real

1:01:04

Hillbelly. You had to improvise it and

1:01:06

they were like, hey. Just dance like a like a hillbelly. You

1:01:08

would do that. It was like ministry of

1:01:11

silly walks, Monty python level of --

1:01:13

Oh, yes. -- of silly and precise

1:01:15

level. That's British though. my

1:01:17

by far, my biggest hit

1:01:20

pick, which is

1:01:22

like not really saying much.

1:01:24

Anyways, the the point that I was most

1:01:26

impressed with the movie was

1:01:28

the George Nelson scene where he kills the

1:01:30

cows, and the

1:01:32

car hits the cow. I was like, looks real.

1:01:34

Mhmm. That looks really, really good. It

1:01:36

was it was CGI. It looks so They had

1:01:38

to look it up. And apparently, a lot of people had to look

1:01:40

it up, and they had a complaint from the academy

1:01:43

or something because they were like, yo, did you kill a

1:01:45

cow for this? Or they were like a humane

1:01:47

society? They wouldn't get them a no animals or

1:01:49

harmed rating. And, like, approved it

1:01:51

with CGI because it looks so good. Yeah. And then if they

1:01:53

say it actually wasn't, but then to get the rating, they

1:01:55

had to make it

1:01:58

again. Exactly. Yeah.

1:01:58

I mean, I mean that. And honestly, like, I

1:01:59

still have a little bit of skepticism there where I'm

1:02:02

like, that looked like you fucking ran

1:02:04

over again. That'd be the one

1:02:06

scene my wife was in the room for it. She's like,

1:02:08

oh, yeah. It was so

1:02:10

visceral and apparently it was it was fake.

1:02:12

But Because it was so it

1:02:14

had that impact. half an hour later they're

1:02:16

like cow killer. Yeah. That made me

1:02:18

lost a gut. You remember that? Lost

1:02:20

a gut. I got. Which is

1:02:23

And and apparently, the character that that

1:02:25

guy represents This day before

1:02:27

face George Johnson. Kill the cow and

1:02:29

the odyssey. I forget who is this. naturally.

1:02:31

Gotta eat. But that's a real guy. He just

1:02:34

died three years prior to when the movie was supposed to

1:02:36

start. Oh, yeah. Georgia Nelson's a

1:02:38

real a real dude. Bank robber

1:02:40

guy. Yeah. My last hit pick, I loved the travel

1:02:42

scenes. It's like a third of the way

1:02:44

through the movie where they actually just show them like walking

1:02:46

places after their car

1:02:48

breaks down. and they get

1:02:50

separated from Tommy after the

1:02:52

police co and bust them up. And there's like the

1:02:54

kids walking the ice blocks and they

1:02:56

steal the pie and leave

1:02:58

the money and they get passed by the prisoner transport and stuff. I wish

1:03:00

there was more of those kind of breaks in

1:03:02

between some of this high speed stuff

1:03:04

because it's just nice to see them

1:03:06

like traveling being together

1:03:08

forming that bond, it kinda started to make more sense

1:03:10

to why they were so close when

1:03:11

it showed like how far they

1:03:13

were traveling. It made the

1:03:15

south look like Lord of the Rings. Right? They were just walk it's more to our

1:03:17

end walking. It sort of is

1:03:19

like crazy. They're they're

1:03:22

some parallels to draw between this and Lord of the Rings here. Honestly, the big

1:03:24

giant adventure for sure. I like the kids holding

1:03:26

carrying the blocks of ice. Like, their whole pant legs

1:03:29

were soaked wet. It was very

1:03:32

realistic with me. I would probably But going on a quest One

1:03:34

man holding both of those. You

1:03:36

know, one man did the

1:03:38

work of those two

1:03:40

kids. Yeah.

1:03:41

Just

1:03:41

inefficient. Get those kids

1:03:44

working on

1:03:46

something else. Let's

1:03:48

move on to.

1:03:51

Sound service.

1:03:54

Oh,

1:03:54

no. Well, I haven't.

1:03:56

and in

1:03:57

constant service,

1:04:00

all through this plane. So last

1:04:02

time we did that time travel movie, Primer,

1:04:05

This will not be interesting

1:04:07

to Bell? No. But there are

1:04:09

some

1:04:09

dedicated fans who cleared up some

1:04:11

questions we had. namely Carol Peters. That's a

1:04:13

double e. Peters. Okay.

1:04:17

Is it at the end

1:04:19

of the

1:04:19

movie when Aaron like

1:04:21

remember discussing whether or not he's building

1:04:24

one giant

1:04:24

time machine or multiple time machines?

1:04:28

Yep. k

1:04:29

p here says it's definitely a big

1:04:31

box. It's a big

1:04:31

one. Throughout the movie, the walls of the walkers are

1:04:33

covering smaller

1:04:36

cells and he's just talking about putting one of those cells every

1:04:38

meter. As for the purpose of that big one,

1:04:40

these

1:04:40

boxes can be used as duplicate. If

1:04:43

if they're larger, you can duplicate more stuff

1:04:45

per trip. Another thing you could do is make

1:04:47

multi year trips because you got if you had

1:04:49

to stay you had to stay in the box for

1:04:51

a really long

1:04:54

time, you would need more space for, like, long term life support.

1:04:56

Well Okay. So fair

1:04:58

enough. But I also I

1:05:00

have a counterpoint to that. pointed

1:05:03

out by other people on one of these sites that I

1:05:05

saw. If you have multiple

1:05:08

boxes,

1:05:08

you don't

1:05:08

have to stay in one

1:05:11

box for a really long time if you wanna go back

1:05:13

until, like, the very first point when you turn

1:05:15

into the box because you could

1:05:18

activate a box and then a

1:05:20

couple days later or hours

1:05:22

later, activate another box, a few

1:05:24

hours

1:05:24

later, days later, activate another box, and

1:05:26

then you could travel back in time to when

1:05:28

you set the first box, wait a little bit,

1:05:30

travel back in time and again, you

1:05:32

know. So it's like, you get

1:05:33

you get more save points. Yeah.

1:05:35

You're telling me this. I'm like, I don't even know what

1:05:37

you're talking about. So so either

1:05:40

way could work. I mean, the the main advantage of

1:05:42

having one big giant box that you can

1:05:44

fit more stuff inside the

1:05:46

box. But as we see, like, the boxes are very

1:05:48

easily collapsible. So I

1:05:50

don't know. Anyways, it I like

1:05:52

that it's there's room for interpretation. You think I would like this movie? We're

1:05:55

seeing the movie cube.

1:05:56

in a movie cube Isn't that

1:05:58

a

1:05:58

is that a creative

1:05:59

movie? That's like a one

1:06:02

location movie. Right? It's very it's

1:06:04

like a horror movie. Yeah. End of this giant

1:06:06

cube. A very low budget. Like, they shot they

1:06:08

shot it, like, in two different So we're talking about

1:06:10

big boxes, I of Cube. Leave a

1:06:12

comment

1:06:12

down below if you've watched Cube and like the

1:06:14

video. I think the movie we've covered that's most

1:06:16

like that is platform, the platform. But

1:06:19

I wonder whether there's, like, a platform. Right? That's right.

1:06:21

So when you say platform, like, it's like, q

1:06:23

do you like Facebook or YouTube as a

1:06:26

platform? I I think of

1:06:28

the cube? What?

1:06:28

I

1:06:32

I will say that so I asked somebody

1:06:36

to to to comment if they had any answer to the to the scene

1:06:38

where Abe walks over

1:06:40

to where Aaron should be in the box and

1:06:42

he's not there. Yeah. That's also

1:06:44

amazing. And he walks back and then walks it back again,

1:06:46

and Aaron is there. This

1:06:48

guy, Reesure

1:06:50

Wookie, says, The part where he walks back

1:06:52

and forth to see if Aaron is out of the box, they explain in

1:06:54

a bit of dialogue right after it. Aaron is clearly

1:06:56

in distress after exiting

1:06:58

the box. And Abe says, you got out too early. You have to wait for the

1:07:00

machine to cycle down, which means that Aaron

1:07:02

got out too early from his perspective, but

1:07:04

too late from the

1:07:06

boxes perspective. That doesn't make

1:07:08

any sense. Yeah. It does. That's why because

1:07:10

Aaron's in the room and he's like, where's Abe?

1:07:12

Which is why Aaron comes out a few

1:07:14

minutes after Abe does. But, no, they're not they're not I'm not talking about

1:07:17

them coming out of the box. They're in the

1:07:19

box. No. because, like,

1:07:21

mister Peters or I actually don't know

1:07:23

the gender of this person. And their post

1:07:26

also said that they were just his

1:07:28

point. He said the scene where Abe is alone

1:07:30

in the box looks at his watch. He's

1:07:32

actually not in the box at all. He's he's just

1:07:34

gotten out of the box and it's now standing in the storage unit

1:07:36

which has two pocket boxes inside of. So you're just

1:07:38

mistaken on that point. What? He's

1:07:40

looking at his watch because he's worried Aaron is

1:07:42

not gonna come out of his own box in time,

1:07:44

but then he suddenly comes out and all

1:07:46

as well. So the storage unit is not

1:07:48

the box, just contains two smaller boxes. No,

1:07:52

that's not true. What do you mean? Do you mean

1:07:54

this storage, you know, and I have a

1:07:56

movie in front of me right now, man. I thought

1:07:58

the storage unit is the box. What? You

1:08:00

did? They don't go into the box

1:08:02

inside of the store. They do. They never show them doing that. They them what

1:08:04

you're talking about. Yeah. The store

1:08:06

unit just contains two boxes that

1:08:08

they go and climb into. That's

1:08:12

actually, on his point, he wrote or they

1:08:14

wrote this might have also caused the oxygen mask

1:08:16

confusion. They don't wear them inside the storage

1:08:18

unit, but they do wear them inside the

1:08:20

actual boxes. remember we're we're discussing

1:08:22

like, hey, where's those box smashes? Aren't they in the storage unit without wearing them? Yeah, they are because the boxes are in

1:08:27

the storage unit. What? You didn't get

1:08:29

the zeros. key. So these boxes are, like, targeted. They're

1:08:32

real. They're bigger on

1:08:34

the inside than the outside.

1:08:36

No. No. They're just big or small boxes.

1:08:38

Wayne. Oh, man. I refuse to watch this movie,

1:08:41

but I will ask questions as if we're

1:08:43

going to watch it. Okay. hundred

1:08:46

cube. I'm still not, like, hundred percent convinced that

1:08:48

that's the case, but I'm going to look it up. That's

1:08:50

okay. So then where did you come into my mind? this.

1:08:53

Pardon me? Where does Dick in a box come into

1:08:55

this? If you want a young looking dick

1:08:57

Okay. Let's go to

1:09:00

that plane. You

1:09:04

should just only put your dick in the box. It

1:09:06

goes back in time. You're like,

1:09:11

it's

1:09:11

paler now. Anyways, what

1:09:14

do you even watch them lately?

1:09:16

Listening to consuming media. You've been

1:09:18

going to place many countless and

1:09:20

none have any stakes or eye

1:09:22

action. Place. Let's call back joke.

1:09:24

joke. I yeah. Yeah. Right. I but I

1:09:26

was like, are you actually going to place? You

1:09:29

know, maybe. Do you wanna go? No. Alright.

1:09:32

Well, I've been playing Red Dead Redemption

1:09:34

two while I'm behind the the times

1:09:37

and I wanna

1:09:38

be a cowboy. So I watched it or I've been playing it.

1:09:40

What a good game? Holy

1:09:42

smokes. I cannot believe I've

1:09:44

waited this

1:09:45

long. I've heard this

1:09:47

game GroundUp Auto. Who? I

1:09:49

heard it's good. Greater Toronto area. I've also been playing Domekeeper, which is a new game. It's

1:09:51

like, did you ever play Motherlo in

1:09:54

the wild fish? No.

1:09:57

No. What what made you think of

1:09:59

Vora? Domekeeper. I don't know. It's just like an insult. You could call somebody. Well, I'm

1:10:01

not gonna explain it.

1:10:03

Go play Domekeeper. you

1:10:06

haven't played Red Dead player. But I'm watching single a dick

1:10:08

farmer. These guys are full of beans

1:10:10

today. I'm watching I am a killer. full

1:10:12

of beans. You're full of pissing me. You're seeing

1:10:15

I am a killer on that now they talk they

1:10:17

interview people on death row. But the way they do it, they make it seem

1:10:19

like this person shouldn't be on death row. And at the

1:10:21

very end of, like, every episode, it

1:10:23

twists up being, like, there

1:10:26

was very clear evidence this person's a murderer, and they, like, present it to the person. They're, like, You

1:10:29

must be

1:10:32

mistaken, but like every single one, it's

1:10:34

like a gotcha. You start feeling bad for these prisoners on a death row, then it's like, but when

1:10:36

the police got there, they were

1:10:38

covered in blood and said, I killed

1:10:41

person, and they had a gun, and they're the

1:10:44

only person in the room. And it's just, like, every single

1:10:46

time,

1:10:46

I'm just, I love True Crime. I wanna say that

1:10:48

way, very low. Wait

1:10:50

a very low. That's so funny. We just talked with last week about how David thinks True Crime is immoral and shouldn't exist

1:10:53

in the

1:10:56

world. What? Yeah. Why is it supposed

1:10:58

to inspire me to do crime? What what is his logic on that? I sort of agreed with him and

1:11:00

I don't I

1:11:03

don't agree that true crime as a

1:11:05

genre should not exist and it can't exist, but I think that I also think that

1:11:07

in general, the more true crime

1:11:10

content is not good for

1:11:12

society. Yeah.

1:11:14

Because if there

1:11:15

was less, there'd be less crimes. No. I

1:11:17

think I

1:11:17

think the main thing is that

1:11:20

it desensitizes

1:11:22

us

1:11:22

to the the

1:11:23

horribleness of what's happening to these victims. We know

1:11:26

they were used, Riley. At Holus last Right.

1:11:28

We talked about last week, but

1:11:30

there is a comment from last

1:11:33

video -- Yeah. -- about it that I was going to read,

1:11:35

but now it's pretty long. Yeah. Anyways, that's

1:11:39

funny. That's I chronic that you are I

1:11:42

thought you did that on purpose because it was so good. No. I love Netflix movies, and I've watched the episode, but I must have missed

1:11:44

that spot. Do you think about it again? You

1:11:46

just get out of your mouth. Think about the

1:11:48

moral ramifications

1:11:50

of what you do, Jake? Honestly, constantly.

1:11:53

Even right now, it's why

1:11:55

I'm a man of

1:11:58

constant sorrow. Red Dead, you're just playing as a background. I'm just playing

1:12:00

as a good guy. You know, humans as animals, like,

1:12:02

go to the world trying to, like, get information

1:12:05

so that they can act appropriately in future scenarios.

1:12:07

Right? to to me into their van, I guess. Like, I

1:12:09

don't know. Exactly. So it's just like the pinnacle.

1:12:12

Like, these stories of,

1:12:14

like, one off events that, like, happen.

1:12:16

Oh my god. Yeah. Makes me appreciate life

1:12:18

more, you know. Oh, it's definitely fascinating, and there's obviously a reason why it's attractive,

1:12:22

but is it good? Right. we wanna get waste in my trunking room that

1:12:24

was used so Speaking

1:12:26

of GTA. Waste Greater

1:12:28

Toronto area. Yeah. Get

1:12:31

drunk there. It's fun. What

1:12:32

do you play in James? A reading or watching?

1:12:34

I caught up on

1:12:34

rings of power, I think. Is that I don't know. I

1:12:37

was watching some episodes during the day

1:12:38

yesterday. A lot of nights have been coming out.

1:12:41

lot of nighttime scenes with the sun blaring on my own that I couldn't really see what's going on, but I

1:12:43

think the good guys win. I don't know. Is it

1:12:47

a good show? Yeah.

1:12:50

Wait. Watch. I'm still watching it. Wait.

1:12:52

Which over time? R0P

1:12:53

Yeah. I heard a lot I

1:12:56

saw a lot of people really praising the

1:12:58

last episode you caught up now. I believe I don't whole

1:13:00

last episode. Okay. A lot

1:13:02

of people praising the episode. Very

1:13:04

exciting. And it was exciting. A lot

1:13:06

of stuff happened, but I think I

1:13:09

was like

1:13:11

it's it's even there was one scene that in particular with and

1:13:12

there was one thing that in particular a glad you're

1:13:14

a land Icrisp at our

1:13:16

the girl had our Oh,

1:13:18

spoilers then. I don't think I got the

1:13:20

right to the end there. I got a spoilers of rings

1:13:22

of power obviously. The spoilers over the last ten minutes

1:13:24

I haven't seen. Yeah. because I know Sorry. I

1:13:26

was watching when the Numenoreans that got there. Oh. And then

1:13:29

you didn't really watch after that. Don't know

1:13:31

if I saw that. This happens after that. You missed

1:13:33

one of the best parts in this in the episode.

1:13:35

off to put that on. classic.

1:13:37

But the rest yeah. I I feel like the show who said it before, it's

1:13:39

fine. I'm gonna keep watching it. It just seems

1:13:41

like a generic fantasy to me

1:13:44

now, and dead

1:13:46

of the Lord of the Rings Show. I didn't watch it then.

1:13:48

Can't make me. It's it's funny.

1:13:50

At the beginning, they really, like,

1:13:52

blow you away with how much they're, like,

1:13:54

being like this is like lord of the Rings. We got the Grand Vistas

1:13:56

and the music and the amazing CGI

1:13:58

and the Set design and like blah blah blah.

1:14:00

And now at this point, it's starting to feel like we

1:14:03

all the time a little bit. starting to

1:14:05

feel like No. I thought it was

1:14:07

prettyhelms like the deal of time. It was

1:14:09

prettyhelms d b, but Spoilers? No. You

1:14:11

haven't watched the last ten minutes. I'm gonna

1:14:13

I have to spoil it for you. Don't spoil it. I'll take my headphones either. I can't hear you. We're gonna spoil it for these people. I

1:14:15

haven't even watched it either if it just came out. That's so annoying that

1:14:17

you watched most of the episodes, but not that

1:14:19

it's very weird.

1:14:23

Oh, sorry. I have children. Ten minutes.

1:14:25

And when

1:14:25

did you watch this?

1:14:27

Like, this time? You haven't found

1:14:29

another ten minutes? Like yesterday. No.

1:14:31

I'm very busy. Anyways -- How busy

1:14:33

I am? -- two hours a day driving, guys. The last ten minutes -- Mhmm. -- kind of

1:14:35

ruined the rest of the

1:14:38

episode. Okay. For me. more

1:14:41

like pneuma snorer. No? Yeah. Yeah. I

1:14:43

don't know. Yeah.

1:14:48

Andor, you watching either of you

1:14:50

watching Andor? My friend is watching it. And I I believe him.

1:14:53

He said it

1:14:54

was quite good. We

1:14:55

can't believe that Everybody

1:14:58

watched all the bad Disney

1:15:00

shows. And now that there's actually a good

1:15:03

one, everyone was so burned out

1:15:05

on the shitty ones, but they're

1:15:07

like, yeah, don't know. Bobaobaobaobaobaobaobaobaobaobaobaobaobaobaobaoba like

1:15:15

Tony Gilroy actually knows what he's doing here. So it's good?

1:15:17

It is good. It's a good show or

1:15:19

is it just good compared to

1:15:21

this dribble? I would say

1:15:24

it is Good show.

1:15:26

It's not blowing me out of the water yet, but just to

1:15:28

see a a

1:15:30

Star Wars property being

1:15:32

handled by

1:15:34

someone who seems like they know what they're doing

1:15:36

is very rare. Is it a good Star Wars

1:15:38

show or is it a good space fantasy?

1:15:40

I heard it had good writing. It has good

1:15:42

writing. It has good acting. It has

1:15:45

good cinematography, color grading,

1:15:47

editing, how about battles. Does

1:15:49

that have good battles? There's one Not not the lightsabers. Well, not all

1:15:51

about the battles. Is there a lightsaber in it? Not yet. Mhmm. I

1:15:53

don't know if there

1:15:55

ever will be. See That's

1:15:58

about Jedi. That's what's so great about it. It's not about Jedi. There's no stormtroopers. There's no bounty hunters. It's

1:15:59

not Star Wars. Yeah. Why they

1:16:02

didn't call Star Wars? It's in

1:16:04

the Star Wars

1:16:06

universe. Yeah. But watch it. You're like, this is

1:16:08

Star Wars, but it's it doesn't it's not it's not relying on the

1:16:10

member berries. It's not relying on like So where's the Skywalker?

1:16:14

At this point, he

1:16:16

is on Tatooine chilling.

1:16:18

Oh, where does Yeah.

1:16:20

What is his moisture

1:16:22

farming? He's moisture farming on his Xbox. That's crazy. It's a

1:16:25

prequel to rogue one, which is

1:16:26

a prequel to a new

1:16:29

hope. Which one's a new home? F4F4

1:16:32

Mhmm. I didn't

1:16:33

like the 0G3I miss

1:16:35

David. He knows he knows Star Wars. The

1:16:37

original three Star Wars suck. That's a whole other company. Nice.

1:16:39

Perfect place to meet you at us at

1:16:41

TGM pod. You can email

1:16:44

us. But bell

1:16:46

one out sir. I will. Hello, and they're just movies

1:16:48

dot com. You can call

1:16:50

Bell at home. Yeah. 604778I

1:16:54

just I just made those numbers that he did.

1:16:56

That I mean, you were correct.

1:16:59

69690 no. His

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name his number is 6044

1:17:04

twenty Sixty nine sixty nine. Four twins call

1:17:06

me. It's A19 hundred number, actually. One nine hundred. He just answers for

1:17:08

that voice. He's like,

1:17:11

1337 That's

1:17:13

a different one. That's for nerds. Alright. And

1:17:15

it's alright. End it. End this. Goodbye. Bye. That's how we do

1:17:17

it. Oh, next week, I don't know. Look

1:17:19

in the description. Yep.

1:17:28

Sorry.