Sophie Smith is never sure what to say when people ask her how many children she has. The answer is five, but when she was pregnant with triplets Sophie gave birth prematurely and none of her three boys – Henry, Jasper, Evan - survived. But to tell the truth starts a conversation on a topic that many find awkward: death.

Featuring:Sophie Smith.Claudia Virdun - Senior Lecturer in Nursing specialising in Palliative care at the University of Technology Sydney.Marian Krawczyk - Medical Anthropologist at the University of Glasgow.