0:00

Charlize Theron's monster, John Lovett's critic, and

0:02

Janet Jackson's boob this week on 30

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2010. Hello

0:23

everyone and welcome to 30 2010, the Laser Time Network's weekly

0:25

pop culture breakdown, telling you what happened in the wonderful world

0:27

of pop culture 30 20 and 20 30 20 and 10

0:29

years ago. Hello,

0:33

I'm one of your heroes, Chris Antista. Who else is with me? I'm

0:36

Diana Goodman and I had so many

0:38

quotes that I was going to go

0:40

with and then R.I.P. Norman Jewison. Did

0:43

he finally die? He did

0:45

97. Wow. 97 in

0:48

the heat of the night. Fiddler on

0:50

the roof, moonstruck, Thomas Crowd Affair, Jesus

0:52

Christ, superstar, justice for all. Justice

0:54

for all. Rollerball, like that dude's

0:56

filmography is insane and every one

0:59

of them is watchable. Yes.

1:02

Norman Jewison. Such a shame. R.I.P.

1:04

I did not know. One of one of our

1:06

great Methodist filmmakers. Not

1:10

actually Jewish. So

1:14

he was hired to do Fiddler on the Roof

1:17

and then the producer found out he wasn't Jewish.

1:19

He was like, do you want me to go

1:21

or? And they're like, no, no, no, no, no.

1:23

I mean, it's yes, I think I probably

1:25

assumed he was Jewish too, but that his

1:27

naming convention, he'd have to be a Jewish

1:30

Viking son of Jew. Who

1:34

else is with us? Well, I'm

1:36

J.R. Rawls, author, visionary,

1:39

dreamweaver and actor. You

1:42

are about to enter the world of my

1:44

imagination. You are entering my

1:46

dark place. Man, I'm

1:48

very happy you got to discover something this weekend.

1:50

That sounds like a ton of things. I am

1:53

so excited to talk about it. It's one of those

1:55

things which I would have never, ever encountered without 30

1:57

2010. And now I'm like. the

2:00

biggest fan ever. Ah. Nice. Ah,

2:02

well, those were teases in

2:05

case you don't know, and this

2:07

episode has much better entries than

2:09

last week's episode, which we discussed

2:11

at length. And I believe, off

2:14

mic, if this is your favorite, who said that if this is your favorite

2:16

episode of 30 2010? Or

2:20

that episode. I, yeah. You

2:22

know what we did? You can't be trusted. You can't

2:24

be trusted. Although there is a movie I kind of wish

2:26

I had moved up to last week.

2:28

Yeah. Because it's thematically

2:31

fits because it's got sexual assault in it.

2:33

But I'd rather we talk about it here,

2:35

because we're going to talk about two best

2:37

actress Oscar winners. Yeah. Yeah. That should be fun.

2:39

You'll be happy to know. I just wanted, patreon.com/leisuretime

2:42

is how you can support us. $5,

2:45

over 100 extra podcasts. Seriously,

2:47

thanks. Help us. We love you. Just

2:50

wanted to shout out Dave Taylor, the closest

2:52

person to give me any information about tech

2:54

for, and that was just one cheesy line.

2:57

Saw an episode, didn't like it.

2:59

Super cheesy. It sucked. Someone is

3:01

kidnapped. A message comes in, and

3:03

someone's like, can you trace it? And

3:05

the guy gets a super important look.

3:09

But remember, it's the future. I

3:11

can. Just give me five to

3:13

10 seconds. Why did

3:15

you just do it? Five

3:18

to 10 seconds. You've already talked for

3:20

five to 10 seconds. Oh

3:24

my god. Just didn't even need to say yes. You should

3:26

have just pulled it up. Oh, tech

3:28

war. No one knows. You

3:30

unremarkable cross media juggernaut. Anyway, moving

3:32

on. This week we'll be discussing

3:35

June 22 through February 1 across

3:38

three decades, and that might include a Super Bowl,

3:40

if you didn't get that tease earlier. 30,

3:43

2010, that's 1994, 2004, and 2014 throughout

3:47

the week of January 26 through

3:49

February 1. No groundhog day

3:51

for you. So let's begin as we always do in

3:53

1994. Jeff

3:55

Gululi. Don't let his name think

3:57

this is silly. leads

4:00

guilty for his part in the

4:02

attack on figure skater Nancy Kerrigan

4:04

plea bargains confessions to racketeering in

4:06

exchange for testimony implicating his ex-wife

4:08

Tanya Harding. Doesn't

4:10

this feel like this happened very fast? It

4:13

did because they were terrible at it.

4:16

But I mean, technically he hired

4:18

the guys who did it, which

4:21

is why it's racketeering. Even though

4:23

I feel like there are conspiracy instead of racketeering.

4:25

I don't know. Whatever it is.

4:27

What Tanya knew and when she knew it is

4:30

always a question. A panic. That's

4:32

what he is saying to this very

4:34

day. Really? Did Tanya Harding

4:36

know about this plot beforehand? I

4:38

don't know. The only person that really knows

4:40

is her and Jeff. I guess it would be

4:42

the same and from what I understand he's saying

4:44

she did, she's saying she didn't. You were never

4:47

in a room with Tanya Harding. Never.

4:49

You never formally met her. No.

4:51

No one ever told me this is what Tanya

4:54

wants you to do. Okay. I'm

4:57

a little deniability girl. You're much better at

4:59

this than Eileen Warnos. Okay.

5:02

What? It's not just a shitty joke. We will be

5:04

talking about her in just a moment. Well,

5:07

yeah, that is all the news that we have for

5:09

1994. So let's get in the movies because there

5:11

are a lot of them. Many

5:13

of them. Some of these

5:15

we need to just breeze through. Yeah. There's

5:18

only one of them that I will go to bat for that

5:22

is in the top. First off, Mrs. Doubtfire

5:24

is back at number one at the box office.

5:26

Holy shit. Trouncing everything after two

5:28

and a half months, three months of release.

5:31

Yeah. Yeah. Can't stop

5:33

that Robbie Williams movie, man. You can't do

5:35

it. And up

5:37

this week. A

5:41

woman of desire is a Boderic movie and

5:43

this time it's got Robert Mitcham in it.

5:45

It's always who is the overpowered classic actor

5:47

who shows up and you feel bad for

5:49

them. It's Robert Mitcham. And

5:51

it is more of an erotic thriller not directed

5:53

by her husband, John Derek. So that's

5:55

nice. And it doesn't have a former president

5:58

in it. my

6:00

favorite thing of the entire Trump

6:02

presidency is that if you went

6:04

to IMDB and put in Donald Trump, it would

6:06

say Donald Trump, actor, ghost, can't do it.

6:11

Not any other bullshit. Yeah,

6:14

these movies are dumb and

6:16

disposable and embarrassing

6:18

for everyone. I have nothing to

6:21

say. Well, the next one is

6:23

got Forest Whitaker beg Tilly, Terry

6:25

Kinney, Arlie Ermey and Gabriel Anwar

6:27

and Body Snatchers. This movie rips.

6:29

It's very good. This

6:31

is what I have heard. This is the third version. This

6:33

is the third adaptation of Invasion of

6:35

the Body Snatchers. I didn't know it

6:38

at the time. It's directed by Abel

6:40

Ferrara, a very mean dude. It looked

6:42

at the time because this was released

6:44

on like 12 screens,

6:47

failed big time to recoup its money, but I

6:49

saw it on HBO late at night and

6:51

it is a more action, horror

6:54

focus, more action focus than the

6:56

previous two, which are horror movies,

6:58

low budget horror movies. The

7:00

pod people

7:04

are an army. Why not put it on an

7:06

army base? It makes perfect sense and

7:09

it makes the threat even more threatening. They

7:11

scream louder. They kill faster. They kill harder.

7:13

It is a more aggressive version of

7:15

the Body Snatchers. I

7:19

like the idea of putting them in the

7:22

military on an army base because it's like,

7:24

well, this is already a very regimented system.

7:26

How are you going to tell? Exactly. It's

7:29

been taken. What do you think's in

7:31

the Abel Ferrara burger? That was sort

7:33

of lost on me, but it was

7:35

more action oriented, which is something you

7:38

really didn't see in the previous two Body Snatchers. This

7:40

is a question for some other

7:42

podcasts, some other time. What

7:44

movies has three remakes that are

7:46

all excellent? Maybe Star is Born?

7:49

I can't tell you. Yeah.

7:53

I never associate Body

7:55

Snatchers with like action, action, action.

7:57

It's always about the psychological system.

8:00

of, has this person been taken

8:02

over by this system? I

8:04

don't understand. But now JR, remember

8:06

that system was talking

8:08

to itself. Imagine they took over

8:10

inside of an army base. Would people

8:13

notice? And now they have access to artillery.

8:15

Should anybody fuck with them? It's a different

8:17

kind of threat. It's almost, most

8:19

of the Body Snatchers movies, from

8:22

the 1950 original, they function

8:24

like sequels to one another. As

8:27

society advances, adds more

8:29

technology. They're very, very good, all three

8:31

of these movies. So yes, that's all

8:33

I'll say about that one. Next up

8:35

we got Dilip Marouni, River Phoenix. River

8:37

Phoenix? He's alive! And Richard Harris in

8:39

Silent Tongue. Well, this is River Phoenix's

8:41

last completed role. It

8:44

is written and directed by

8:46

Sam Shepard. And

8:48

I love me some revisionist westerns, and I

8:50

could not get through this. This was so

8:53

slow. And

8:58

boring. For

9:00

the basic point, it was kind of interesting. It's

9:02

about like, oh, my son's wife died,

9:04

and he's really sad about it. I'll go

9:06

get her another one. And

9:08

I tried to go buy another wife

9:10

for him, and it doesn't go well. Why

9:13

is this so boring? We're about to talk about

9:16

another movie about buying a wife. This is

9:18

fantastic. Silent Tongue, no. No,

9:22

take a nap, Silent Tongue. Jesus Christ,

9:24

I'm sorry. Even more obscure, Joan Chen,

9:27

Matt Dillon, and Golden Gate. Oof.

9:31

I didn't get to this one either,

9:33

but the reviews were brutal. Matt

9:36

Dillon is an FBI agent in San

9:38

Francisco, and he's investigating the

9:40

Chinese community, and do they have ties to

9:43

communism? And it takes place over decades,

9:46

but he's also in love with Joan Chen, but also her he

9:49

put her dad in jail. Oh,

9:52

man. Not one nice thing to say. Like usually,

9:54

if there's a bad movie or something doesn't work,

9:56

they're like, well, that performance was good, or the

9:58

locations are nice. No, no,

10:00

no one had anything nice to say about

10:03

Golden Gate. See, don't worry, the

10:05

director, football coach John Madden

10:07

will bounce back in just a

10:09

few years. He will. Well, he

10:11

literally will. Shakespeare and Love, that's him. Yes,

10:14

and then I'm going to enjoy this

10:16

throughout, like, if you've been listening to

10:18

the show for a while, my trajectory as movie fan, would

10:21

you believe, I didn't have this poster

10:23

on my wall, I had a mobile

10:26

for this movie hanging

10:28

from the ceiling. The problem,

10:30

Chris, is I do not believe

10:32

this film exists. It very much

10:34

does. I was

10:37

the youngest

10:39

Car 54 Where Are You fan that existed on

10:42

the planet in 1994. I

10:44

watched so much of it on Nick at

10:46

night, I was like, wow, I

10:48

can't believe they're turning that old.

10:51

Because even in 1994, this was an old ass TV show. It

10:56

has literally the only thing

10:58

I can attribute it to. Because I remember the

11:00

show, it was really good for kids. A two

11:02

season show from the 60s. 50s.

11:06

50s with Fred Gwen, Herman Munster,

11:08

two mismatched cops, but was very,

11:10

very good for kids. But the

11:12

theme song is what was ultra

11:15

memorable about the show. There's

11:17

a holdup in the Bronx, Brookings, Vulcan,

11:19

now in fights. There's a traffic jam

11:21

in Harlem that backed up the Jackson

11:23

Heights. There's a sculptor, a child,

11:25

cruise ship's the winner of the

11:27

wild. Crews, 50s. So

11:32

cute. And you as a little kid,

11:34

you could shout that at any passing police car,

11:36

your mom would laugh, your dad would laugh. Cool.

11:38

But then why remade the movie like that? And

11:40

that's how I learned what JFK Airport used to

11:42

be called. Mm. Oh. So

11:45

I was wrong. It's 61. And the

11:47

lyrics refer to

11:50

Khrushchev, who is premier of the Soviet

11:52

Union, who had recently visited the United

11:54

States. So

11:58

that has to change with a new. new

12:00

theme song, right? I'm scared. Oh, it's a beauty.

12:02

I'm not a day of paradise here in the city. I'm not a place to stay in the

12:04

sorrow of my days. But

12:09

yes, the biggest star

12:12

in the movie is the ghost of Christmas present in Scrooge,

12:14

David Johansson.

12:20

David Johansson of the New York

12:22

Dolls, a New York punk fucking

12:25

legend. Did he get hit on the

12:27

head? I mean, is that why

12:29

they shot in CBGBs? There is a

12:32

Ramones performance captured on film forever in

12:34

CBGBs in this movie. Hello,

12:36

R54, where are you? Maybe

12:39

they were big fans growing up. I have

12:41

no idea. But I remember ads for

12:43

this. And then it was like gone from theaters

12:45

in a day. And I never watched it when

12:47

it came out. I never saw it on video.

12:50

And for the show, I looked

12:52

everywhere. You cannot watch

12:54

this. So I

12:58

think it was mildly heightened. Rosie

13:00

O'Donnell was in the movie. Don't

13:02

laugh. She's becoming a very, very big

13:04

star. And the movie was shot

13:06

in 1990. Oh. 1990

13:11

as a musical and had been slowly

13:13

edited back to what you see before

13:15

you. Nipsey Russell is very

13:17

technically, it's not a remake. It takes

13:19

place later in the Car 54, where

13:22

are you universe? Fred Gwynn is sadly no

13:24

longer with us. Oh,

13:26

Lord. But Al Lewis was. I thought Al Lewis in

13:29

the. He was in the original. Al

13:31

Lewis was in the original and lived to be like

13:33

180. So yeah. Oh,

13:35

wow. OK, 1994. January

13:39

slash February 1994 now is the

13:43

best time for taking a musical and turning

13:45

it into not a musical. We're going to

13:48

talk about a legendary one next week that

13:50

I have been trying so hard to find

13:52

a musical version of. It's out

13:54

there, but I can't find it. Notory

13:56

Scottish business. I know what you're talking

13:59

about. have also

14:01

wanted to find the musical version,

14:03

but it's just not... Yeah. Well,

14:06

because it's being taken down off the internet

14:09

by a power even worse than Disney, Prince's

14:12

estate. They're

14:15

ruthless. They're so ruthless. Okay,

14:17

we're gonna talk about it next week. Let's

14:19

talk about the heavy hitter this week, a

14:22

fucking classic! Yes. A classic!

14:26

She came to a new world. To a husband she had never met. And

14:37

discovered a passion that would change her

14:39

life forever. The critics

14:41

are calling The Piano one of the

14:44

most enchanting love stories ever filmed. A

14:46

triumph. Winner. Best picture.

14:48

Can film festival. Holly Hunter.

14:50

Harvey Keitel. Sam Neill. The

14:52

Piano. The movie event of

14:55

the year. The

14:57

movie event of the year. Yeah,

15:00

I feel like I'm a bad person

15:02

to talk about this. I was obviously in a rush to

15:05

watch a ton of movies, and this is a movie that

15:07

takes its time. It's

15:10

not over long, though. It's not like it's a

15:12

three-hour slot. It came around on

15:14

Age of Innocence, so it's like a

15:17

mature adult story of the unrequited,

15:20

or is this just movies from a time

15:22

before women were allowed to masturbate? So

15:27

both my wife and I watched this, because

15:29

I'd always heard it's this great movie, you

15:31

gotta go watch it. We watched

15:33

from start to finish. Once

15:36

it was over, I turned to her and I said, I

15:38

don't know if I liked that, and

15:41

she turned back, neither do I. Neither

15:45

of us can tell you if this is a

15:48

good movie or not. Well,

15:50

that is one thing I love about it.

15:52

It is complicated. Yeah. I

15:54

mean, it's such a weird high-concept story

15:56

that you think it's based on a book, and it

15:58

isn't. James Campion

16:01

has an idea and

16:04

it's about Holly Hunter is

16:06

mute. She's a single mom. She's

16:08

from Scotland. She gets sold off

16:10

to Mary Sam Neill in New

16:13

Zealand. And

16:15

she only mostly communicates through her

16:17

piano. She communicates through music. Harvick

16:20

Itel as a neighbor becomes enchanted with this,

16:23

takes her piano, and

16:25

she has to buy

16:27

it back slowly through

16:30

any sexual favors. And

16:33

my wife and I weren't sure about this. She

16:35

also at that same time, refusing to

16:38

have any sex with her husband. Yes.

16:41

Yeah, not the

16:43

best strategy for a

16:45

woman alone with a child

16:47

in rural New Zealand who

16:50

is mute. No, but

16:53

and that's why it's so interesting. It's like because

16:55

she's you think she would

16:57

well, Sam Neill seems like an okay

16:59

guy. We later see him go kind

17:01

of mad with jealousy and he's clearly

17:03

not an okay guy. He has

17:06

a lot of problems and he's a colonizer and

17:08

he doesn't treat the Maori very well. But

17:11

Harvey Kitell is also like, well,

17:13

he's starting out with exploiting her

17:17

semi sexually. Then it becomes fully

17:19

sexually, but also he appreciates her

17:21

in a way Sam Neill can't. Mm hmm. So

17:24

she does fall in love with him.

17:27

And we don't ever get her point

17:30

of view. We are never inside this

17:32

lady's head. Now, she was a no,

17:34

no, it opens with narration and closes with narration. She

17:37

does not talk the whole last minute. I would like

17:39

to point out it's Holly Hunter.

17:41

Holly Hunter. What do you think of

17:43

when you think she's a little firecracker? She talks

17:45

real fast. Yeah. Yeah. I actually

17:47

want to give this movie credit because the movie is sort

17:50

of from her point of view and she doesn't

17:52

speak. And I think that's why

17:54

it's lauded by the people who appreciate the

17:56

medium of film. We're showing this, you know,

17:59

it opens up. all these interpretations.

18:01

Sure. Apparently she was hit by

18:03

lightning. Maybe she doesn't have

18:05

any depth to her. She's

18:07

just brain damaged and she's acting in

18:09

seemingly kind of crazy ways because she

18:12

has brain damage. Did you really believe

18:14

that the story that her daughter tells

18:16

about that she was struck by lightning while

18:18

she was singing during a storm? No. Come

18:21

on. It's a very cute yeah.

18:25

So maybe Anna Paquin, her

18:27

first freaking role, they

18:30

were looking, they had finds

18:32

an actress, they auditioned thousands

18:34

of them. She is 11

18:36

when she wins the Oscar.

18:39

The only the second youngest winner and please

18:41

look up her acceptance speech. It is so

18:44

fucking funny because it's really clear

18:46

she cannot catch her breath. And she comes up

18:48

and she's just made a little thing. And she's got a

18:50

little beret on and she looks so cute and she just

18:52

gets her like.

18:55

And then catches her breath like, Oh, did I get Kennedy? Oh,

18:58

it's so cute. She's a fucking powerhouse

19:00

in this and a pack win. I

19:03

mean, it was a little bit of a surprise win because people are

19:05

like, she's a kid. Does you know what she's doing? She

19:08

is a complicated character. She's playing herself

19:10

and interpreting the thoughts of her mother.

19:13

She's playing like two roles. Yeah,

19:15

she has to speak on behalf of her

19:17

mother doing sign language. And also she has

19:20

this very complicated relationship where she resents that

19:22

she resents being too close to

19:24

her. She resents being pushed away. She resents having

19:26

to go to New Zealand. She resents Sam Neill

19:28

and then she takes Sam Neill side. Yeah,

19:32

there's a lot going

19:34

on. I adore this.

19:37

I'm so glad I got

19:39

to see it on the

19:41

big screen because it is visually stunning.

19:43

I might be the first time I saw New

19:45

Zealand on film. I mean, I

19:48

think that this shot, well, you definitely saw

19:50

young Einstein before that. But no,

19:52

no, I didn't. What? How are we doing

19:55

a show together? It's both. And it's mostly

19:57

New Zealand. But you I've

20:01

seen other Gene Campion movies before

20:03

this, but I saw them later, and those are

20:05

mostly shot in Australia. Sweetie,

20:08

and, oh, I guess Angel at my Table, like,

20:10

shot in New Zealand. But then Power the Dog

20:12

was shot in New Zealand, also pretending to

20:14

be Montana. It's

20:17

such a strange movie because there's so

20:19

many different ways you can interpret it,

20:21

and they are all completely valid. It's

20:25

also like, feminist but not, but

20:27

yes, in a very strange way.

20:29

It's so much about acceptance and,

20:31

like, it's about

20:33

passion, and it has a whole bunch

20:35

of nudity, and it is, like, really

20:37

realistic nudity. No, they used it in

20:40

my film class to talk about the

20:42

gays, how women are filmed versus when

20:45

you finally see Harvey Keitel's cock in this

20:47

movie. It's how a woman would shoot it. I

20:50

guess I have to do something with this. And

20:52

yeah. Well, yeah, I just, I had forgotten

20:55

rewatching how much I love. Their

20:57

love scenes are very realistic in that they're sort

20:59

of like the unspoken negotiation of like, well, I'm

21:02

going to put my leg here, and maybe

21:04

if you, oh, you should scoot over. Okay. But

21:07

they're not saying anything. It's just sort of like

21:09

how it's done. But

21:11

people are naked, and that makes it awkward,

21:13

but beautiful. And

21:16

yeah, I mean, there's some shots of this.

21:18

I'll never forget. The shot of the piano

21:20

on the beach is like parodied to death

21:23

to this day. Yeah. I

21:26

mean, the shot of her slowly sinking into the

21:28

mud with her giant skirts is

21:30

like, I don't know how

21:33

they put a fan under there. I mean,

21:35

it is so, so everything

21:37

about this is gorgeous. And it's so weird

21:39

that it's Holly Hunter, who's known for, you know, being

21:42

a little bit Spitfire and

21:44

Harvey Keitel, who

21:47

is finally like becoming a bigger star in

21:49

the 90s than he was before. I

21:52

mean, we had Reservoir Dogs last year, and what is

21:55

it? Bugsy

21:57

before that, I think, pull

21:59

an Oscar number. forget bad lieutenant the last time

22:01

we saw his penis. The lieutenant was the last

22:03

time I think we saw him and little Harvey. And

22:08

Sam Neill made this before Jurassic Park. They

22:10

had to work on this for a while. So

22:12

Sam Neill has a hell of a year. Yeah.

22:16

With the two extremely

22:18

different characters and yeah,

22:21

I don't know what else to say besides like it's

22:23

romantic in its own bizarre way. And

22:26

there's so many points where it could just

22:28

go real fucking wrong and it doesn't for

22:30

me. So. No,

22:33

I think, yeah, I was,

22:35

since it's James Campion, what's

22:38

a lady must endure then

22:40

and now please compare. I

22:43

can see a feminist scholarly

22:45

approach to this. I can see a

22:48

beautiful, these shots are amazing.

22:50

Like this movie looks great. And

22:53

Harvey Keitel, like a fucking sex object,

22:56

is jarring because most other movies never do

22:58

that even when he's young. He's

23:02

not treated like that. So it's

23:04

absolutely fascinating. And if

23:07

you're like me and look at your phone too much, you can

23:09

forget, yeah, this is Holly Hunter from

23:11

Raising Arizona who talks very,

23:13

very fast. And

23:16

she doesn't even emote that much. It's like

23:18

all eye acting. Yeah. And

23:20

you generally know like, oh, you know what

23:22

she's thinking right now. She's thinking I am

23:24

pissed or I am happy or I am

23:27

hesitant. Where were the Oscars with

23:29

this, Diana? Holly

23:31

Hunter and Anna Paquin both win and

23:33

I want to say screenplay? Screenplay. Yeah.

23:37

Jane Campion becomes only the second woman ever

23:39

nominated for Best Director. Wow.

23:41

Yeah. Now she's the third woman

23:43

to win after Power the Dog. Rock

23:46

rock on. Yeah.

23:48

That's where we are with women directors in

23:50

1993. It's a good week

23:52

for it, I suppose. It's

23:54

a great week for it. Yeah. On

23:57

this show, we got another one. It's a great

23:59

week. Yeah. Oh. Yes,

24:01

you seen parodies. Are making fun of

24:03

it. Okay fine sir. But. Still

24:06

watch the original it is. Deceased.

24:10

Probably watch it with someone's He can discuss it like

24:12

they. Are in his life. It's a

24:14

streaming free on pluto. In

24:16

the email us so you can

24:18

watch it for nothing of it's.

24:22

Indescribable. I think it's kind of a

24:24

masterpiece. And yes, I know what else

24:27

to say. purposes. Of a be that have had

24:29

to be washed it more than once throughout the years. He.

24:33

Yes yeah I remember seeing it

24:35

in theaters. I think it was

24:37

an early days when point and

24:39

not as very I. Am

24:42

I yeah? And then.

24:44

Ah, Couple

24:47

years later, edited for television. Oh

24:49

my God. which was I'd have. An

24:51

edge and inside Some time, probably the

24:54

late nineties and then you, but I

24:56

haven't seen it for probably better. Part of

24:58

twenty years ago that down to watch that stuff to finish

25:00

and I was like. Nine. Of

25:02

accessing enough to hold. Off even another show were

25:04

will talk about just a moment to his

25:06

those fuel lou. Almost little odd to see

25:08

this drop out of as I coast. I

25:10

feel like this was referenced in so much

25:12

comedy. Better. Throughout the Nasa and years

25:15

and I haven't heard anyone talk about since

25:17

it became like that. Movie that everyone is

25:19

talking about. Several and goes and sees

25:21

like it was. This is made so

25:23

much money. Now the movies it is

25:26

such I can't It's a dumb you

25:28

woman with a piano. good at what

25:30

the fuck. Are you talking about. Yeah,

25:32

it's. It's really like grabbed on

25:34

the people who would not normally go

25:37

see it in Indy for. And film.

25:40

And. i yeah i i think he kicks

25:42

ass well havana so be of our give

25:44

it recommend just because diana has been waiting

25:46

for the first super long time and it

25:49

does have oil eight of us a real

25:51

feeling and i sat down and watched a

25:53

little more closely than i would have but

25:55

acting with the eyes i love talking about

25:57

that is as good segue to the movies

25:59

I didn't even see in our sheet because

26:01

of how much emphasis I put on the

26:03

piano. James Remar, Aiden Quinn,

26:05

Madeleine Stowe, in Blink.

26:08

You were blind completely. Until six weeks

26:11

ago, yes. You were blind completely because

26:13

of your pretty image pressure. Joseph said,

26:15

of course, as a twirler, you have

26:17

to wish. He's a knockout. I'm in

26:19

Blink. Ready to arm. So I just

26:22

assumed piano was going to be

26:24

our big game, you know, the biggest show in

26:26

town of this week in 1994. Yeah.

26:29

And this is its wide release date, obviously. It technically

26:31

came out in 1993. But I'm guessing

26:33

Blink is doing a little better at the box

26:35

office because it's much more traditional January

26:39

fare thriller. Yeah.

26:42

Yeah. Madeleine Stowe. I got

26:44

somebody I've been meaning to look up more about

26:46

Madeleine Stowe because I watch 12 Monkeys probably once

26:48

every two years and like, what the

26:50

fuck is this woman? Where else? What

26:53

has she been in to be a star in this movie? Blink.

26:56

So the pitch is a

26:59

woman who is blinded as a child gets

27:01

eye surgery. And by the way, they do

27:03

not shy away from showing the eye surgery

27:05

in this. And I had Lasix

27:07

done. And that's creepy enough when they just

27:09

slice open a little bit. But

27:11

when they guck around in there

27:13

a whole lot, that's some yick facts. You

27:15

have glasses on. Yes.

27:18

My eyes are really bad. This

27:20

is me with Lasix. Okay.

27:24

Glad I didn't do it. Yeah.

27:27

So she gets eye surgery.

27:29

She can see for the first time in 30

27:31

years only there's a twist. Her

27:33

brain is still getting used to seeing. So

27:36

it shows her stuff that may have happened

27:38

in the past. And

27:41

so she can never be quite sure if

27:43

what she's seen is happening in the moment

27:46

or happened hours or days

27:48

ago. And there's a killer on

27:50

the loose. So she can't be sure if she's

27:52

seen the killer in the present or in the

27:54

past. It

28:00

seems like that would be thrown in

28:02

at convenient times for the plot.

28:04

It is! Wow! What's

28:07

so powerful about that? Yeah,

28:10

this got, I remember this being

28:12

pretty bad, but like the reviews are medium,

28:15

saying like mostly it's

28:17

an interesting premise. She plays

28:19

it really well and that she's not like

28:22

a damsel in distress. You know, she's tough,

28:24

she's coping, she's doing stuff, but that

28:26

it falls apart at the end. Yeah,

28:28

I can see it. It sounds like a movie is

28:30

ending that you test to death and ends up getting

28:33

in the way. I went

28:35

into this completely blind and

28:40

didn't know what it was about, so I just

28:42

started it and I was like, wow, is this

28:44

a serious drama about what it is like to

28:46

regain your eyesight after 30

28:49

years? And it quickly

28:52

curves into the thriller genre, just like

28:54

it, but the first like 15 minutes

28:56

I thought, yeah, this is a serious

28:58

drama. Nope. Blink. And

29:01

it made money. It made money, so I think it's only fourth

29:03

of the box office during its debut,

29:06

but it didn't bomb. There's a viewing audience

29:08

of baby boomers who love shit like this,

29:10

so here's to Blink. Back

29:13

to things we saw in 1994, JR, I guess

29:16

we got to clear out of this whole segment

29:18

just for you, buddy. The

29:20

premiere of the TV show from the movie. You're

29:23

the only person I've ever heard that's

29:25

like Babylon 5. That

29:28

is not fair. Babylon 5 was

29:30

really, really well regarded in the

29:32

early 90s, deservedly so.

29:34

It was really one of

29:37

the first serial television shows out there, where

29:39

it was like, this is changing every week.

29:41

You really need to watch it. You can't

29:43

just come and go. If you miss two

29:45

or three episodes, you're going to be pretty

29:48

lost. It was really

29:50

well written. I

29:52

think the actors are some of the best

29:54

sci-fi actors at the time. I think the

29:56

dialogue is really well. Special

29:59

effects. Do not a whole. Day

30:02

and I wanted to be the

30:04

first television showed to use C

30:07

D I. And

30:10

they what they were the first

30:12

television. Cg. Eyes from

30:14

Nineteen Ninety Four And hoo

30:17

boy does it not look

30:19

good. In the current year.

30:23

I really hope some Mad

30:25

Genius fans out there just

30:27

redo all the and muriel

30:29

see I see one of

30:31

those things a I could

30:33

probably eventually do because I

30:35

do not see why. Two

30:38

years, three years max. you

30:40

couldn't just ah up Rez

30:43

mall of the exterior spaceships.

30:45

Ah shots to be better

30:47

with a I don't see

30:49

why that's not possible in

30:51

the very near future. But.

30:54

This show did it. He dug the show.

30:56

This show I think it's really good. Ah,

30:59

There's. This line. Let's go ahead and

31:01

play it in my dream: Am an

31:03

old man. It's twenty years from now

31:06

and. My

31:09

hands around someone's

31:11

his. We

31:14

have squeeze the Zeiss out

31:16

of a chance. To

31:19

such. As

31:21

recognized as the when from the three. And

31:25

a car and lawn though relationship is

31:27

one of the. Past. Relationships

31:30

in all of Psi Phi. They

31:32

have such an amazing arc throughout

31:34

the next series. and Ah! Those

31:37

lines come into play. So.

31:40

Wonderfully five years from now. It's

31:43

just fantastic. Guys are going to

31:45

be my enemy forever. A

31:48

goes in a way you would never expect, so is

31:50

of them. But as

31:52

the shows very much a child

31:54

of the nineteen nineties in this

31:56

episode the very first episode you

31:58

see very very. clear parallels to

32:01

the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, to the US

32:03

being the world's policeman and not

32:05

wanting to be the world's policeman,

32:07

to fears about an upcoming election

32:09

with an authoritarian candidate, and fears

32:11

about civil liberties for minority groups.

32:13

So you know, things that are

32:15

utterly irrelevant in 2024. Just

32:19

like we've moved so far beyond that. But

32:24

it's really a good show.

32:27

I really think if

32:29

you can get past the bad

32:32

CGI, it is bad. There's no way around

32:34

it. If you can just think

32:36

of it as a play, you know, think of

32:39

yourself as watching a play and just accept that

32:41

you're going to be able to see the strings

32:43

on the CGI. I feel wish the exterior shots

32:45

were just a step ladder. How

32:50

about instead of up-resing everything, we

32:52

turn it into a black box

32:54

theater? There you go. There you

32:56

go. Yeah. I've heard good things.

32:58

It's not that I haven't heard good things about it, JR, just

33:01

not from a human being that I know. It's

33:03

kind of deep in the recess of the Internet

33:05

because it wasn't easy to

33:07

be a fan of this. What channel is it going to be on

33:09

and when is it going to be on? I couldn't find it. Yep.

33:13

That's fair. That's fair. It got

33:15

done the dirty. It was at the very start of it.

33:17

It was pitched and they said, we're going to make it

33:20

a TV show. And then they were like, actually, we're going

33:22

to make it into a TV movie. And then actually, we're

33:24

going to see how the TV movie goes. And then actually,

33:26

we're going to see how the first episode goes. So

33:29

they strung them along. There's

33:31

a lot of drama about if

33:34

DS9 straight up

33:36

ripped off the show.

33:38

Eventually before DS9. Now,

33:40

you can't trademark one of a

33:42

space station instead of spaceship. You

33:45

can't trademark that. But there's some

33:47

serious parallels. Find the YouTube videos if you want

33:49

to get really in depth. But

33:52

I prefer this to DS9.

33:55

I know that's heresy, but I think it's

33:57

the better show. Granted, I watched a lot.

34:00

more of it than I watched DS9. I fell

34:02

off DS9 in like season two. This,

34:05

I love this show so much. In

34:08

the very first episode, Londo

34:12

lied and says, how do you

34:14

spell Londo? It was

34:17

this thing. And throughout

34:19

the entire series, you're given lore,

34:22

but characters lie in

34:24

this series. And if a character says something, all

34:26

you know is that the character says something. You

34:28

don't know if it's a lie or truth or

34:30

not. And it's really

34:33

such an amazing display

34:35

of early, early

34:37

serial drama in television.

34:39

Big recommend. Well

34:41

let me steer it to this because I just

34:44

gave up on Googling this because it turned up

34:46

nothing too many times. The Good Life, it premieres.

34:50

Any information on The Good Life? Yeah,

34:52

yeah. It has Drew

34:54

Carey in it and it's kind of like his...

34:56

Oh yeah, I did see this. It's my introduction

34:59

to Drew Carey. Exactly. It's most

35:01

people's introduction to Drew Carey and this would kind

35:03

of set him up to his own show down

35:05

the line. But it's, you know, it's a middle

35:07

manager in a warehouse in Chicago. I

35:09

don't know what it was. I saw promos. I

35:11

do remember this. I instantly saw promos and like,

35:14

I like this guy. I'll watch something with him in

35:16

it and I kept doing that. But yeah,

35:19

call it the Drew Carey show so it's something a little

35:21

more memorable. What

35:24

about something we want to be the opposite

35:27

of memorable? Bill Cosby is what I'm getting

35:29

at. He returns to NBC for

35:31

a series of two hour, a two hour movie

35:33

this week which will become a series of two

35:35

hour movies, the Cosby mysteries. Named

35:38

after the man who stars in it,

35:40

not the name of his character or

35:42

the mystery they're uncovering. Yeah,

35:45

this bombed, thank goodness. Because,

35:48

yeah, he plays a New

35:50

York Police Department criminologist who

35:52

retires after winning the lottery

35:55

and then he keeps coming back to

35:58

solve crimes. Never,

36:00

never. Good Lord. Among the things I wouldn't do

36:02

if I won the lottery. The superb

36:04

owl, I might go there. No interest really.

36:07

George Dome, Atlanta, Dallas versus the

36:10

Buffalo Bills. Oh boy. Round

36:12

two. For the second year in a row. Yeah.

36:15

See, I'd like to go to the

36:17

Super Bowl just for the experience of

36:19

going to the Super Bowl, but

36:21

that is not worth $8,600 for that experience of going

36:24

to the Super Bowl. Go

36:27

you one further. It's not even worth the

36:30

parking for me to go to this thing. So

36:32

if I can get helicopter in and

36:35

I've won the lottery and I've stopped solving criminologist

36:37

mysteries, then maybe I'll go to the Super Bowl.

36:40

But not today. Is that why fan man

36:42

kept showing up in places he just didn't want to pay for

36:44

parking? Imagine

36:47

a parking right here. Yeah, how

36:49

would be bills the second time? Yeah.

36:52

Yeah. And it smells. And it's

36:55

Mrs. MVP. We're past the

36:57

Michael Jackson halftime. It's where halftime is supposed to

36:59

start. It starts getting better, but it's

37:02

the only kinda there. Rockin'

37:06

Country Sunday with the Judd Slint

37:09

Black, Tanya Tucker, and Travis Trent. Now that

37:11

is a great lineup. It is

37:13

if you like country. It's all a lineup. And

37:15

the most people ever I think like

37:17

country now, thanks to Hannah

37:19

Montana's dad. So it's about

37:22

the only time they could do this. I

37:24

mean, Garth Brooks was getting number one hits all

37:26

the time. Time period. I mean, but

37:28

not after this, but like I think country is at

37:30

its largest awareness at this

37:33

point, even though. I

37:35

think it's a little bit waiting. Yeah. In

37:38

94. Little bit waiting. Yeah.

37:40

That's a good lineup, but I'm not

37:42

expecting a flashy show. I'm just expecting, well,

37:44

this will be enjoyable music. You know what I

37:47

learned this week? I did not know Garth Brooks

37:49

is refuses to be on Spotify. So

37:51

like. He is like not on the

37:53

internet. Yeah. By

37:56

my CDs, bitch, I'll put them out constantly. get

38:00

from Garth. I'm

38:02

reminded of that 30 Rocks get

38:04

of, I need to have my

38:07

fans be people who don't know the internet

38:09

exists to buy their CDs at gas

38:12

stations. I mean, country

38:14

music. There you go. Oddly

38:16

enough, Chris Gaines is totally on Spotify. Moving

38:19

on to my

38:21

favorite thing of the week. I

38:23

unearthed an old promo because I

38:25

was so fucking excited

38:27

about this. And let me

38:30

bring you back to nobody knows anything about

38:32

this. The critic, one

38:34

critic called it the best new show on

38:36

TV. All right with

38:38

me, but I'm very hard on myself.

38:41

The critic coming soon. On

38:43

ABC, the worst channel it could be on.

38:45

And I just want to just leave it

38:48

into home improvement. A little context here. The

38:51

Simpsons created a shitload of me

38:53

to cartoons, but they were

38:55

really like, they were all Capitol

38:58

Critter fish police to be as

39:00

kind as I can to them. They were all kind

39:02

of the Flintstones. This is kind of adult material, but

39:05

it's for children. And they would eventually

39:07

rerun that on the, at the beginning

39:09

of Cartoon Network at any time of

39:12

day, because there was nothing really offensive

39:14

or pushing the envelope for them. This

39:16

is the second show from Simpsons creators

39:18

period. The first second attempt at the

39:21

Simpsons. Well, it takes a

39:23

while to make animation people. Yeah.

39:25

Now the Simpsons was huge almost

39:27

from day one, but it

39:30

takes a while to go, okay, let's hire

39:32

those guys away from the biggest animated TV

39:34

show in history. Give

39:36

them money and give them resources to write

39:39

something. I think today,

39:42

that success would have been followed up on

39:44

within weeks of itself. Now it's taken years.

39:47

James Brooks, Al Jean and Mike

39:49

Reese. I do like

39:51

that they made very intentionally. The

39:53

show is not the Simpsons. It's not set

39:55

in anywhere America. It is set in New

39:57

York. It doesn't star a family start to

39:59

sing. Jay Sherman is not a

40:02

lovable idiot. Jay is an unlikable

40:04

smart person. They are

40:06

so mean to Jay. Oh my

40:09

gosh. This is just like I

40:12

do not know of an animated show

40:14

that is meaner to its protagonist than

40:16

the critic. Yeah. Going

40:18

back and rewatching it, it was I almost had

40:20

a running counter of how many jokes about him

40:22

being gay or fat? Especially

40:24

fat. And you know how he'd answer? Now.

40:28

That's what he'd say. Now. But

40:31

like the easiest way I

40:33

can describe our love for the critic, I

40:35

would lose my shit when I'd get a movie

40:37

reference in The Simpsons. What if you made The

40:39

Simpsons all movie references? This is

40:41

right place, right time for me and I think for all of us.

40:44

And 100%, I was never as much into movies as I was

40:46

in 1994 into movies. So the critic was perfect

40:53

for baby JR. If there was a critic

40:56

joke I did not get, I sought it

40:58

out like I'm going to understand this reference.

41:00

And it was it's so if you're

41:03

a fan of the show strongly rooted in 92 to 95.

41:05

Every single movie. It has no

41:07

timelessness at all. I cannot show this

41:10

to my kids. They would

41:12

never ever get maybe the Jurassic

41:14

Park parody. Other than that, they're going to

41:16

be just lost. Oh yeah. They're going back

41:18

to Rain Man a couple times during the

41:21

run of the show because Rain Man was

41:23

huge. But it's also not 1988

41:25

anymore. They do end up doing

41:27

a piano parody next season. I

41:30

only disagree a little bit just because like, you

41:32

know, I was as I want to do

41:34

when I'm incredibly drunk three times a year

41:37

watch Looney Tunes and I spent my

41:39

childhood repeating Abbott and Costello lines

41:41

and like Bogart

41:44

lines that I had no frame of reference for other

41:46

than Daffy Duck. I

41:49

don't think it's the same Chris. I think

41:51

you can watch and enjoy a Looney Tunes

41:55

parody. It's not even a parody. It's just using a

41:57

voice is using the scene and it's just if you

41:59

don't know It's yeah, but if you don't know it if

42:01

you know it you'll get more out of it But I got

42:03

plenty out of it as a kid not knowing

42:05

what they were referencing And in any

42:07

time in Jay's real life

42:10

it is kind of straightforward comedy when he's

42:12

bad it is I mean there are the

42:14

movie parrot killer lines my Alternate

42:17

intro was going to be my

42:20

shrink was right. God does hate me

42:25

Again so cruel So

42:28

so cruel so I Wanted

42:31

to bring up the music on the show because it's

42:33

got a wonderful wonderful

42:35

opening theme that's sort

42:37

of Rhapsody in

42:39

blue ask by a little boy. No

42:41

one like named Hong Zimmer who

42:44

is a successful? Composer

42:47

at this point But

42:49

not the only composer but he

42:51

takes off next year as being like this guy

42:53

is top tier shit like he's very successful at

42:55

this point, but Lion King

42:57

bumps him up into like one

42:59

of the top five guys and I just just play

43:01

a little bit because it's so charming Love

43:16

the show so very So

43:19

charming so big recommend. I love

43:22

it my big criticism Other

43:25

than Jay and one other

43:27

character. I don't think this

43:29

has enough memorable characters It's

43:31

quickly the Jay Sherman show

43:33

and everyone else except for

43:36

this character just doesn't have many great lines

43:39

Why the hell do you have to be

43:42

so critical? I'm a critic No, your job

43:44

is to rate movies on a scale from

43:46

good to excellent. What if I don't like

43:48

them? That's what goods for mr. Phillips. We

43:51

go on in five seconds. I

43:53

own this network boy I just put up that

43:55

picture of me on a horse Okay

44:00

Okay. God, I look fabulous. Oh,

44:04

that reminds me, I've got an interview with

44:07

People magazine. Okay,

44:18

so Chris, in your time as a

44:20

professional critic, have you ever had a

44:22

boss tell you that's what

44:24

good is for? No. No,

44:27

but also, I do

44:30

sort of know what he's saying because when

44:33

you truly find something that is bad,

44:35

something that is bad shouldn't even come

44:37

to my plate. Something that

44:39

comes to my plate typically has a

44:41

budget, a marketing team that can fix

44:43

what's wrong, especially today. You don't see

44:46

movies that aren't six out of 10s at

44:48

least. It's rare. It's rarer to find that

44:51

than I've ever- We just talked about I,

44:53

Frank and Stonnie. I'm saying

44:55

that's- I had a huge budget

44:57

and it was garbage. But I'm saying, I think-

44:59

Worse than garbage. It was garbage's garbage. You

45:02

will find a great to excellent movie more

45:04

often than you will find a movie of

45:06

I, Frank and Stonnie's quality. You can't- I

45:10

remember seeing critics back then write about movies

45:12

as if everything was five and

45:14

below. I'm like, you don't belong in this business. These

45:17

movies are made by professionals. They're fun. Even

45:20

mediocre movies can be fun. That

45:23

was our attitude as game critics. Just

45:28

to be in contention to being reviewed by us,

45:30

you have to be of a certain caliber. Movies

45:32

are different because you can only do

45:34

so much. I

45:36

loved about it because I was becoming a snob too

45:38

and Jay Sherman was also a snob. Snobs

45:42

aren't very popular main characters

45:45

unless you're Frasier. Yeah. Well,

45:47

actually, Frasier, that's a good comparison. Her

45:51

main character is kinda unlikable and

45:54

it's everyone around him that makes

45:56

him more likable. Now, Duke Phillips,

45:59

RIP Charles Napier. is one

46:01

of the greatest characters ever. He is

46:03

incredible. But we

46:05

also have Doris Grau, always

46:07

playing someone named Doris. God bless her.

46:10

Maurice LaMarche is an Australian guy with peers.

46:12

Maurice LaMarche, literally

46:14

they would just write things that they

46:16

thought they did a funny impression of. Like,

46:18

they just really liked his Dudley Moore, so

46:20

they just put in a Dudley Moore sketch for no fucking

46:23

reason. Filled with green penis. And

46:25

yes, his Orson Welles, Rosebud

46:28

Frozen Peen. And he's full

46:30

of country goodness and green

46:32

penis. That's terrible. Just

46:35

take some for the road. Oh,

46:38

what luck. There's a french fry in my beard. Paragram

46:42

and Judith Ivy, who are two

46:45

actors I would never put on

46:47

the same stage because they're way

46:50

too different as his parents, are

46:52

incredible. Diana, the

46:54

peanut is neither a pea nor a nut.

47:01

I didn't ask to be Secretary of

47:03

Balloon Doggies. The balloon doggies demanded

47:05

it. Here's

47:07

something I want to talk about with folks. Wait

47:10

a minute. It is a nut. Okay, I'll be

47:12

quiet. Almost

47:14

got a spit take. Almost

47:17

got one. I

47:19

don't know. I spent too much time

47:21

talking about modern Simpsons

47:23

sucks. I'm like, no, it might

47:26

be you that sucks. Slash,

47:29

it's more that you're different. You grew up,

47:32

you were 12 years old, Simpsons came out, it

47:34

ruled, and then it came in a syndication and

47:36

you watched it every single day. You

47:39

don't do that with any Simpsons episodes in the

47:41

last 15 years, if you're like me. I

47:43

know I don't. The critic debuted

47:46

on ABC a little strongly but was a

47:48

really bad fit because we hear

47:50

that with almost everything, whether you're a Muppet

47:52

or Dana Carvey, being in

47:54

the home improvement orbit is a good way to get

47:57

people to hate a smart thing. Then

48:00

it moves over to Fox to follow the Simpsons. A

48:03

much better fit. The show got a little

48:05

more risque. I don't know which

48:07

one I like more. I'm talking more

48:09

about the Comedy Central era. When Comedy

48:12

Central picked up the reruns to play after

48:14

Dr. Katz, my love for

48:16

the show got accelerated in a way that

48:18

it took the Simpsons like nine years to

48:20

do. I'm

48:23

watching numerous critic reruns every week

48:25

for years. I watched them for

48:27

years. I remember Comedy Central marketing

48:29

it as one hour

48:31

of bald, paunchy, neurotic power

48:34

with Dr. Katz and the

48:36

critic. I

48:39

love the two seasons of the critic about as

48:41

much as I love the first eight seasons of

48:44

the Simpsons because I've watched them the same amount

48:46

of times. There's

48:48

only 23 of them. That's

48:51

one season of the Simpsons. That's one proper

48:53

season of a regular show. Don't bring up

48:55

the online Adam films.

48:57

We never talk about them. I also want

49:00

to say, and I shouldn't say it because

49:02

I haven't done it yet. I bought this on

49:04

DVD. I'm positive. This is not

49:06

in print anymore. Why the fuck

49:08

would it ever be? Who would ever license this

49:10

and put it on their streaming platform network again?

49:14

Most of the episodes are on YouTube. I

49:16

hope they remain that way. Shit,

49:19

why am I saying this? I should have bought

49:21

the DVD before announcing this to thousands of people.

49:23

If you see it out there, pick it up. I have

49:26

a feeling this is going to be worth a pretty penny

49:28

in a few years. It is on 2B.

49:31

Don't we talk 2B? The place no one goes

49:33

to and no one likes it. All right. I'm

49:35

just shocked that it streams because it wasn't the

49:37

last time I looked for it. I'm

49:41

looking at it right now. It's on 2B. Okay,

49:43

great. That's freaking awesome. Yep.

49:46

I honestly, this is my favorite show

49:48

ever. I generally put that of what's

49:51

something that I can

49:53

go back to and I'll

49:55

laugh at it again

49:58

or there'll be a joke. about and I'll

50:00

crack up or some reference that I

50:02

didn't get back then but I get it now. Okay, right.

50:04

She's turning the light on and off like in Fatal Attraction.

50:06

I don't know why I didn't get it then but I

50:09

get it now. Do you wear all white mom?

50:11

Yes, except for the gloves. Dirtiest

50:13

joke I've ever seen snuck in on network

50:15

television. We're

50:19

gonna have to talk about that episode. They

50:21

do make fun a little of how old Jay is.

50:24

Do you want to know how old he is? Yes,

50:26

in his late 30s. 36. Yep.

50:30

And they are joking about how old

50:32

he is at 36. Yep. Yep.

50:35

So yeah, I mean and his design is so fun

50:37

because like they just took Cisca and Ebert and schmooshed

50:39

them together. And the Cisca and Ebert episode is one

50:41

of the best episodes

50:45

of anything. One of the best

50:47

episodes of anything. They say a

50:49

love song to each other. Fantastic.

50:51

Yeah, I don't know what else to say except like.

50:53

I wish this never stops. It's an interesting comparison

50:56

to Frasier. Yeah, it's a show

50:58

about a snobby guy who's

51:00

generally unlikeable and then you

51:02

get to see him humiliated.

51:05

So here's why I think it didn't last

51:07

as long as it should have. Okay. Cops

51:10

and doctors are the focus of so

51:12

many TV shows because they

51:14

naturally find themselves in dramatic situations,

51:17

interesting situations. They can run across

51:19

things where it's like wow, this

51:21

is interesting. I want to see

51:23

where this can go. What

51:28

are the pitches for episodes

51:30

where a film critic will

51:32

just naturally find himself in

51:34

an interesting situation? Yeah. I'm

51:37

at a press conference. Again, I think

51:40

also I read from the, it might have been something

51:42

the writer said, it might have

51:44

been a little foolish to think people

51:46

outside the entertainment industry who

51:48

aren't animation writing nerds that

51:51

they understand every one of these movie references

51:53

to old and new movies. That's

51:56

one thing that I saw, Nels

51:59

Schofl who wrote on this. show said

52:01

that they thought that this would be a show

52:03

that was hit on the coast and flyover country

52:05

wouldn't get it. And it was the exact opposite.

52:08

They actually didn't do very well in urban

52:11

markets, but out in the boonies they

52:13

thought the show was funny. Yeah, it's not

52:16

a show that is like you would call a

52:18

smart show. It's about a smart guy, but

52:20

the humor is totally for everyone. I

52:24

do like he starts complaining about

52:26

his salary and adjusted for inflation.

52:29

He makes $562,000 in today's money a

52:31

year. Jesus

52:35

Christ, I would retire in two years. Yeah,

52:39

but then he can lose his job and have to do

52:41

English for cab drivers. It

52:44

can be taken away any moment. Al Bocum. Oh,

52:47

come on. And also one of the best visual guys

52:49

in the world. Look at sign. I

52:53

love this show. I know every word of

52:55

it. It's always super comforting and yeah, cannot

52:57

recommend the critics strongly enough for anybody who

52:59

is listening to the show beyond the first

53:01

time. You will get the most out of

53:03

it and you should probably get a lot.

53:06

You like classic Simpsons era, seasons

53:08

four, five, six, seven, eight. What

53:11

the hell are you waiting for? I think there's still the guys

53:13

who are now currently doing the Simpsons again. Yeah.

53:17

I will say though, I think this

53:19

is the real father of Family Guy.

53:21

I think Family Guy has far more

53:23

in line with the critics than it

53:25

actually does with the Simpsons. For

53:28

me, I could have stood to

53:30

see more movie jokes based on

53:32

popular culture because when they hit, they

53:34

were awesome. It's one of the first video

53:36

game jokes I remember turning into Pac-Man. Using

53:40

the music is beautiful. And I

53:42

wish it was still here. I wish there

53:44

was something making fun of modern movies because

53:46

now you got Treehouse of Horror and that's

53:48

just kind of it. That'll really

53:51

bank on a quality that you pair. My culture is too

53:53

dead. There's like maybe three movies a year you can make

53:55

a reference to that you can be comfortable everyone with. Yeah,

53:57

but you can make fun of all those movies because it

53:59

wasn't. just new movies. It was movies

54:01

within a five-year window and then Jay

54:04

especially would reference old movies

54:06

all the time. Love Story, Fuck

54:08

It, Seventh Seal, it's all it's all over the show.

54:12

It's hilarious. I love the critic. I'm gonna,

54:15

for this episode is over I'm looking into getting that TV.

54:18

If we've learned anything from

54:20

the success of Last Action

54:22

Hero it's that the public

54:24

is craving more Seventh Seal

54:26

reference. It

54:28

worked in Bill and Ted's bogus journey. Yeah.

54:31

Really did. Then

54:34

we'll close out with some games here.

54:36

Riddick Bo Boxing for Game Boy. Riddick.

54:38

This game is Riddick. They never

54:41

used my tagline. Unnecessary

54:43

Roughness for PC. Tell me that's a

54:45

football game. It's a football game that

54:47

is not remembered because it made the

54:49

big mistake of not being Madden. Yeah.

54:51

There are a ton of non-Madden games at this

54:54

point. NFL isn't good at

54:56

anyone. Merchant French is out on PC. Strategy

54:59

game. You take on the role

55:01

of a Renaissance error trader. Like

55:04

not a traitor. And

55:09

After Dark. Don't get too

55:11

excited to horn dogs. It's the Simpsons

55:13

animated screensaver with over 15 Simpsons

55:16

modules and they're still kind of fun.

55:18

I miss premium screensavers.

55:20

If I could download this for

55:23

free which I'm sure I can

55:25

with like whatever listeners. It's on

55:27

archive.org. You can totally download this.

55:30

I would like... Can it

55:32

run on my Windows 11? There's

55:36

no fucking way. I hope some

55:38

nerd out there transports

55:40

this so it works in Windows 11.

55:42

That would be fun. But Home Will

55:44

Eat your whole desktop background. There's some

55:46

voice clips. I'm not sure if they

55:49

original because the YouTuber is talking over

55:51

them. There's just

55:53

a screensaver where Ned and

55:55

Homer will mow the lawn but they're

55:58

both wearing dresses and from that... episode

56:00

and that episode where they wore dresses all

56:02

knowing the mini golf episode I know what

56:04

it is do do I dare ask how

56:06

much this cost to have it was

56:09

probably a premium it was a premium product so you're

56:11

probably looking at least 30 bucks 30 bucks

56:15

hey look people worked on something Diana can

56:18

I just have flying

56:20

toasters those came

56:23

standard and lastly a game

56:25

I'm not really allowed to

56:27

talk about without certain friends of mine from back

56:29

in the day Gabriel Knight sins of the father

56:32

what which my friend Charlie would call the

56:35

just the end-all be-all of adventure games Gabriel

56:39

my I got to go

56:41

to New Orleans with Charlie and believe me

56:43

when he saw Jackson Square he was so

56:45

happy because he recognized him from the

56:47

Gabriel Wow what a big

56:49

fucking nerd let me take

56:51

a picture and

56:54

it is a time of

56:56

books 1994 this week sees

56:58

the release of midnight

57:00

in the garden of good and evil by John

57:03

parent I think this

57:05

is the biggest success of 1994 in the

57:07

book world maybe it when it is a

57:09

medicine County come it might have been out

57:11

last year but that's like kind

57:13

of at the top of the charts every week

57:15

but also huge but yeah if you're a mom

57:18

out there listen to our show being

57:20

a mom back then you remember these books very well

57:22

midnight in the garden of the good and evil finally

57:25

hit and then some music

57:27

of 1994 all for love

57:29

by Brian Adams Rod Stewart and sting still

57:32

number one baby love

57:34

it new releases include

57:36

this week from 26 through February

57:38

1st we got the South Side

57:41

of the album by Black Hawk cross purposes

57:43

by Black Sabbath under the pink by Tori

57:45

Amos blunted on reality the debut

57:47

of the foodies what a crying shame

57:49

by the Mavericks back at

57:51

your ass for the night for her which I

57:53

could not have said whiter knowing I was about

57:55

to read a to live crew album and

57:58

Dookie by green day which is is

58:00

on the Rolling Stone Top 500 album list. Really

58:03

feel like, I love that album

58:05

cover so much. I would still probably take a poster of

58:07

it from my wall. So much happening in the Dookie album

58:09

cover. And here's

58:12

where I have to say what I said. I

58:14

said this New Year's Eve because Green Day was playing.

58:17

We're as far from Dookie as Dookie was

58:20

to Hard Day's Night. Yeah. All

58:22

right. You are

58:24

old. You are old, Father

58:27

Willis. Cultural slowdown, because

58:29

I guarantee you, when Hard

58:32

Day's Night was coming out, they wouldn't

58:34

have had 30-year music playing at the

58:36

hip coffee shop. But you can still

58:38

hear this. This is as old as

58:41

John Philip Sousa is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

58:45

But Will calls out with Basket

58:47

Case by Green Day, a just,

58:49

yeah, untoppable classic. Love it.

58:51

Don't go anywhere. We get a lot to talk about when we get back from

58:53

the short break. OK, steady

58:55

up. I'm so

58:57

sorry. I'm so sorry. You're

59:00

my little dar. I'm so sorry.

59:03

She's so sorry. I

59:09

wish you were safe. You

59:11

are not my last name. She's

59:14

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time. Speaking of which, here's a quick

59:38

taste. 84

59:41

is a hell of a year, listener. Yeah.

59:43

And this is one of the films that

59:45

makes 84 such

59:47

a special year. I mean, I don't

59:50

remember. I was very young and

59:52

definitely not seeing this movie in the theater. But

59:55

it's like I was there for the

59:57

resident success. I thought this was

59:59

a frame. franchise that would be around

1:00:01

forever, ever. Everybody had a dog

1:00:03

named Gizmo for a really

1:00:05

long time. It's Joe Dante's 1984 Gremlins,

1:00:08

of course we're talking about. I just

1:00:10

wanted to say this off the bat,

1:00:13

if this is your favorite movie, you

1:00:15

either have no taste or

1:00:17

the best taste. Yes.

1:00:20

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1:00:53

in with Michelle Williams, do you know, off the

1:00:56

album, the same name? Welcome to 2004 January 26 through

1:00:58

February 1st, that's 20 years ago. Right.

1:01:02

And that's the Destiny's child, Michelle Williams.

1:01:04

Don't be confused. Yes. Just not

1:01:06

Heath Ledger's Michelle Williams? No. No,

1:01:08

not the ridiculously versatile ask. Yes.

1:01:10

She does not belong to a

1:01:13

dead man. New releases

1:01:15

also include Delirium Accordia by Fantomos,

1:01:19

Bangers and Fckers by Coach Whips. It's

1:01:21

enough for me to check it out. Great title. Night

1:01:24

Freak and The Sons of Becker? Wow. Right under

1:01:26

the week of its cancel season. Congratulations by the

1:01:28

Coral. Talkie Walkie

1:01:30

by Air. One More Moment by

1:01:33

Mindy Smith. Margarine

1:01:35

Eclipse by

1:01:37

Stereo Lab. Hey, Abayakasses. Stu... Number

1:01:40

one. Yeah, number

1:01:42

one. Okay.

1:01:45

Little bit of news. The reason is 2004. My

1:01:47

Doom, the most destructive computer worm

1:01:50

so far is first sighted on computers in

1:01:52

North America. Goes on to cause $38 billion

1:01:54

in damages. I'm

1:01:58

not sure how you calculate those damages. I

1:02:01

want to say that a lot of that is theoretical, but

1:02:04

so is a lot of natural

1:02:06

disaster estimations. I

1:02:08

really remember the early 2000s as

1:02:11

having far worse viruses than today

1:02:13

because I had so many laptops

1:02:15

where I was like, this

1:02:17

isn't working. And I went

1:02:20

to the internet, I tried to follow everything,

1:02:22

I downloaded multiple spyware

1:02:24

stuff, antivirus stuff, and it

1:02:26

was like, I still

1:02:28

keep getting a laptop just

1:02:30

trashed. It becomes garbage. It's so odd

1:02:33

to think about and like, how did

1:02:35

this happen? Maybe because you went

1:02:37

to a bunch of nefarious ROM sites, you idiot,

1:02:39

to try and get placed Super Nintendo games for

1:02:41

free. I think this one

1:02:43

went through email, but if I remember

1:02:45

right, my doom was the

1:02:48

one where like literally, I think our IT guy

1:02:50

said, yeah, the internet's going to be slow for

1:02:52

a while because so

1:02:54

much of it is being taken up by

1:02:56

my doom replicating. Okay, cool. I'll

1:02:59

also use a Mac. I don't get

1:03:01

that. Like JR was saying, like I

1:03:03

remember, yeah, I'd have like 18 anti

1:03:06

spyware companies and the spyware companies

1:03:09

would eventually buy the spyware clients

1:03:12

to invade your computer and just

1:03:14

realizing, yeah, it's been over 10 years since I've

1:03:16

even thought about that because it took that long

1:03:19

for Windows to incorporate an

1:03:21

updated spyware. Just

1:03:24

what do you want to call it? Ecosystem. That's

1:03:27

effective. Yeah, that's effective. That actually does its

1:03:29

job. I cannot recall the last time I

1:03:32

had something that actually fucked my shit

1:03:34

up. Yeah. Yeah, here it is. Average

1:03:36

web page load times went down by 50%. Everything

1:03:39

slowed down. And

1:03:42

as I said, my doom was responsible for roughly 10%

1:03:45

of all email messages at the time. And

1:03:49

can I just move up something from TV into news

1:03:51

because I think it belongs there. Sure.

1:03:54

Because it's so much less about what actually happens on

1:03:56

TV. The Super Bowl 38.

1:04:00

stadium, who could forget Reliance Stadium

1:04:02

Houston, in Houston

1:04:04

New England Patriots beat the Carolina Panthers

1:04:06

very close 39 to 29 MVP Tom

1:04:08

Brady. What else

1:04:10

do we remember about this? I think

1:04:15

well there was a halftime show that

1:04:17

had Kid Rock and P Diddy and

1:04:20

Jessica Simpson and Spirit of Houston

1:04:22

and Ocean of Soul and two

1:04:24

other people. Two other people,

1:04:26

lots of three J's shared among

1:04:29

their names that's of

1:04:31

course talking about Justin Timberlake and Janet

1:04:33

Jackson become

1:04:37

one of the most fun. Where we get the term

1:04:40

wardrobe malfunction.

1:04:42

Because it was. That's

1:04:46

still used today. I still hear that

1:04:48

today. But the funniest part

1:04:51

about this and it's almost like not

1:04:54

fun. There's so much of this that is not funny at

1:04:56

all and I really want to spend a little time on

1:05:00

the sexism and fake shock. Justin

1:05:03

because I thought I saw this I

1:05:05

saw this live and I

1:05:07

just remember like Janet Jackson has a

1:05:09

huge nipple piercing and in my head some of

1:05:11

my friends were like we

1:05:14

were supposed to see that like

1:05:16

no Justin Timberlake grabbed just

1:05:18

at random what was supposed to

1:05:20

be a fall away top and

1:05:22

reveal something lacy a little. He

1:05:25

ripped the entire thing off of one

1:05:27

tip so he it is

1:05:30

totally his fault he has never

1:05:32

brought up he is

1:05:34

not associated with this this controversy he is

1:05:36

never blamed he has never find his name

1:05:38

never comes up in pundits mouth. Some

1:05:41

mad genius look through about like

1:05:43

300 plus newspaper

1:05:46

articles on this at the time and discovered

1:05:48

that in 50% of them his name

1:05:51

was never even mentioned. Never mentioned it

1:05:54

is all his fault not

1:05:56

the fault of the woman who was embarrassed

1:05:59

on national television. by having her

1:06:01

clothes ripped off by someone who did the wrong

1:06:03

thing and not that I think there's much blame

1:06:05

to give to JT anyway what I really want

1:06:07

to remind people of politically

1:06:11

we're always you know we're

1:06:13

all gonna have different opinions this

1:06:15

to me is the best condemnation of

1:06:17

24-hour news this is not

1:06:19

news this did not

1:06:22

matter nobody did it

1:06:24

created YouTube the founder of

1:06:27

YouTube is on record as

1:06:29

saying this happened everyone

1:06:31

wanted to watch it everyone wanted to watch

1:06:34

it and went what

1:06:36

if I create website where people can watch

1:06:38

things yes not

1:06:40

far off but the

1:06:42

point being if

1:06:45

when you think it like we constantly live

1:06:47

in a media ecosystem where told things are

1:06:49

shocking you can't say anything anymore like think

1:06:51

about just this week I wanted

1:06:54

to message all of you I was rare

1:06:56

occasion watching SNL Live they

1:06:58

said the term suck my penis and

1:07:01

I slap my girl on

1:07:03

the shoulder like they have never said anything like that

1:07:05

before that has to be a first for network television

1:07:08

and then they said goddamn blaspheming which

1:07:10

is literally illegal by the FCC I

1:07:13

have never heard on purpose on network television

1:07:16

this one book this no and I

1:07:18

Google around no one saying anything about

1:07:21

that no one saying I think

1:07:23

I am using if you haven't read Chris

1:07:25

Cliff Nesteros outrageous he keeps quoting like Pete

1:07:27

Davis and came on his mother in

1:07:30

the opening second of his

1:07:32

peacock show while masturbating the virtual

1:07:35

reality port his mother Emmy winner

1:07:37

Edie Falco nobody cares

1:07:39

at all at all

1:07:41

it nobody's even talking about it but

1:07:44

this incident dragged Janet Jackson

1:07:46

through the mud it end up

1:07:48

costing somewhere around four million dollars

1:07:50

in legal proceedings and a 500,000

1:07:52

FCC fine one of the biggest

1:07:54

fines ever

1:07:56

levied because of one incident from

1:07:58

one individual Usually they're

1:08:00

like egregious things that an

1:08:03

entire network has done for

1:08:05

something that one individual

1:08:08

did. The FCC received

1:08:10

500,000 complaints about the nipple.

1:08:14

And this is 2004, so it's not a

1:08:16

Twitter poll. It's people

1:08:18

calling or writing physical letters or something.

1:08:21

It is also a form letter given

1:08:23

out by watchdog groups designed to be

1:08:25

angry watchdog groups. I

1:08:28

want to know how many of those had the same wording

1:08:30

and how many were from like Focus on the Family. A

1:08:35

couple people took them to small claims court and

1:08:37

I think maybe got like a settlement out of

1:08:39

it because you're not supposed to see a boob

1:08:41

on TV. Says fucking who? Who gives

1:08:43

a shit? And this is the FCC chairman

1:08:45

at the time, Michael Powell. I love his

1:08:48

quote. This is

1:08:50

his quote years after the fact. I think we've been

1:08:52

removed from this long enough to

1:08:55

say that for me to tell you that I put

1:08:57

on my best version of outrage just so

1:08:59

I could put it on. Part of it

1:09:01

was surreal, right? Like, look, I know it's dumb what's happened

1:09:03

and they knew the rules and they were

1:09:05

flirting with him and my job requires the enforcing of the rules.

1:09:07

But you know, really, what are you going to do? Who cares?

1:09:10

I personally thought it was all unfair and it all turned out to

1:09:12

be about her. So

1:09:14

much of it, I mean, obviously is going to be the think

1:09:17

of the children. Like this is supposed to be

1:09:19

an event that we all watch together as

1:09:21

men try to give each other concussions.

1:09:23

It's wonderful. It's wholesome. It's a

1:09:25

post watch thing every

1:09:27

single year. And

1:09:30

they were like, well, that's it. The empty

1:09:32

purification has gone too far. This is too

1:09:34

sexy. This is too raunchy. We think that

1:09:36

was planned. We think this was totally intentional.

1:09:38

Like why else should we she have the

1:09:41

giant nipple piercing there? And it's like, don't

1:09:43

question her piercing them. Fucking

1:09:45

no. The fact that like we didn't see.

1:09:49

Well, really, no, we saw

1:09:51

a big thing like cut away. So like

1:09:54

like only a couple of years before we had a

1:09:57

little Kim at the VMAs wearing a

1:10:00

one boob dress with a pasty

1:10:02

on and everyone just kind of

1:10:04

went, huh? Until Diana Ross basically

1:10:06

jiggled it. Everyone went, Oh dude,

1:10:09

don't grab her tits. What do you say? It's

1:10:11

also cable and outside of the FCC's jurisdiction. Yeah.

1:10:13

So they have to do something here. I, I

1:10:17

find this pretty disgusting and everybody

1:10:19

who engaged in it to be

1:10:21

pretty disgusting parasitic people. But

1:10:24

again, I blame the 24 hour news cycle who

1:10:26

turned this into a months

1:10:28

long controversy for an accident that

1:10:31

happened where literally no one was

1:10:33

harmed except for Janet Jackson and

1:10:36

just truly unbelievable. Yeah.

1:10:38

I don't understand why the idea is that that was

1:10:40

her fault. Yeah, exactly. I

1:10:42

don't understand when her more bra,

1:10:44

I mean, you can kind of like a little

1:10:46

bit, but she's wearing, I mean, the piercing, it's pretty

1:10:48

big. The shield, but yeah,

1:10:51

inside of that nipple shield is the

1:10:53

nipple itself. But so what?

1:10:56

I would be much more willing to talk about

1:10:58

this moment as one of history's most embarrassing incident

1:11:02

to talk about it as one of the most

1:11:04

controversial thing that's ever happened. What is controversial about

1:11:06

this? Nothing. Nothing.

1:11:09

Does, do things need to change? This caused,

1:11:12

this caused opportunistic, idiotic politicians

1:11:14

to promote all these

1:11:16

new awful laws involving restricting our rights,

1:11:18

freedom of speech, and what can be

1:11:20

shown on decent television. They had it

1:11:22

like they threw out so many Superbowl

1:11:25

commercials the next year, because there's all

1:11:27

this heat on it. It lasted year

1:11:29

long heat. They ended their affiliation with

1:11:31

MTV, which bolstered their

1:11:33

ratings incredibly once they actually

1:11:36

brought real acts and choreography

1:11:38

into, into the Superbowl on

1:11:40

the regular basis. I really think that's 20 years of

1:11:42

cultural change talking, Chris. I mean, we've had, we've had

1:11:44

Netflix. Yes, but you were a young man. You're

1:11:50

talking about, you know, the

1:11:52

60 year old people who watched this at the

1:11:54

time are mainly dead now. Okay. And

1:12:00

they were the ones probably writing these letters.

1:12:02

I don't believe these are form letters. This

1:12:04

is all horseshit. And no one was pretending

1:12:07

to be upset to be

1:12:09

part of a movement is kind of gross. I

1:12:12

don't think how can you be that upset by something like

1:12:14

this? It's a bad thing that

1:12:16

happened to Janet Jackson. You'll live. Everyone

1:12:18

else who saw it, you'll live. I feel

1:12:20

like that's the thing that's missing is like, like,

1:12:23

oh, this is a terrible thing for us all to see. It's

1:12:25

like, it was a bad thing that happened to Janet Jackson

1:12:27

that we all happened to see. Yeah,

1:12:30

it sucks for her more than it sucks for anybody who watched

1:12:32

it. She was treated like she did it all on

1:12:34

purpose and she was intentionally like she just got

1:12:36

her vag out and shoved it at the camera.

1:12:39

And she had a giant diagram

1:12:41

of where babies come from. And then she like had

1:12:44

sex with a woman. Like how many other controversial

1:12:47

things can she do? Like no, this was

1:12:49

an accident that she was the victim of

1:12:51

and everyone acted like she's the perpetrator. And

1:12:53

she is a legend and everyone should apologize.

1:12:56

I quoted the FCC chairman because

1:13:00

it is interesting to point out

1:13:02

that they were writing

1:13:04

a line and they were trying to titillate

1:13:07

in the same way showing a boob titillates.

1:13:11

That was the point of the finale

1:13:13

had it gone correctly to see more of

1:13:15

her boob. So technically we

1:13:17

got even more than we wanted.

1:13:20

He told us what he was going to do. He was going to

1:13:22

have us naked by the end of this song. But

1:13:26

just what he said. Also I do love that.

1:13:29

How did they fix this? Who do you bring in next year

1:13:31

to make everything

1:13:33

okay? I can read this. You

1:13:35

guys are ever? No. Nope. Because

1:13:37

it is a very wise move because it's Paul

1:13:40

McCartney. Oh, okay. Yeah. It's

1:13:43

one where everyone can go, oh yeah, okay.

1:13:46

But I will say this. This

1:13:49

is the most famous halftime of all time. Yeah.

1:13:52

What about Left Shark and Katy Perry's Left Shark? I

1:13:55

loved that whole show but Left Shark. I'm

1:13:58

going to tune in to Super Bowl this year. the

1:14:00

halftime show is all I care about. It's

1:14:02

become the most fun, elaborate production that the

1:14:04

most people are watching at any given time.

1:14:06

I don't even know who's playing in the

1:14:08

Super Bowl. But, uh, no

1:14:11

one does yet. Oh, didn't even know that.

1:14:13

But I know Usher's going to be there

1:14:15

and they're speculating who's going to be there

1:14:17

with him. But Diana,

1:14:19

who will do the most bases and

1:14:21

do the most dumps? Oh,

1:14:25

um, uh,

1:14:27

the Charlie sharks. Charlie sharks.

1:14:29

Daniel go sharks. Sharks. Yeah,

1:14:31

I think that's utterly ridiculous.

1:14:34

And one of the, yeah,

1:14:36

one of the largest fines

1:14:38

posed by the FCC on

1:14:40

an individual act on

1:14:42

television ever, um,

1:14:44

half a million dollars, 4 million

1:14:47

illegal settlements. And we talked about it

1:14:49

for years over who fucking

1:14:51

talking about it 20 years later right

1:14:53

now. It's not as a marketing attempt.

1:14:57

That is a marketing gag. It's

1:14:59

God, cause that, that is another.

1:15:01

We marketed this in the last

1:15:03

episode. We do this discussion. That's

1:15:06

true. To get people to listen

1:15:08

to this. I'm fucking disgusted. Market

1:15:10

marketing. You want to talk marketing. I'll play

1:15:12

this early. This is what

1:15:15

comes up in marketing this week. Marketing milestones

1:15:17

from 20 years ago. My favorite

1:15:19

thing ever. The quiz

1:15:23

knows things debuted 20 years

1:15:26

ago. They're called spong monkeys.

1:15:36

Spong monkeys. I did see monkeys. I

1:15:38

saw bears. People call them bears. And

1:15:40

I don't know about you, but my

1:15:42

town, which at the time had many

1:15:44

quiz, no subs now has zero.

1:15:46

So to me quiz nose is dead. Yep.

1:15:49

This is their legacy. These

1:15:53

little things. It's

1:15:55

so, I remember watching this

1:15:57

at the time and I'd seen the. We

1:16:00

love the moon short. It was a rather good

1:16:02

uh, I looked

1:16:04

at their animation. Oh, yeah, rather good He

1:16:06

would do lots of stuff and I and

1:16:09

I felt like I was hallucinating for a second because

1:16:11

it's like the internets are leaking The

1:16:14

super bowl ads cost so much money

1:16:17

Why would prisoners do this? to

1:16:20

the unsuspecting public I

1:16:22

don't like they're not gonna get

1:16:25

it. They're gonna be so confused Why

1:16:28

is this happening to us? We

1:16:30

love that people far

1:16:32

again, we were watching I was watching live

1:16:34

television which almost never happens with SNL this

1:16:37

week and i'm talking to my girl And

1:16:40

i'm just like the first 20 years of my life

1:16:43

All commercials were sincere pitches for

1:16:45

why you might like this product

1:16:48

Now if they're not a pill or

1:16:51

a promo for a tv show or movie Every

1:16:53

commercial is about disturbing me from

1:16:56

looking away To this day

1:16:58

all come like have you seen this skittles commercial? Hey,

1:17:01

I puke skittles for a living at no

1:17:03

point. Do they tell you they're delicious that

1:17:05

they're chewy that they taste like anything It's

1:17:07

just to disturb you Keep

1:17:11

on watching this was so

1:17:14

Weird and wonderful. And yeah, I Quiznos

1:17:18

is so much better than every other sandwich. I

1:17:20

know That they

1:17:22

they were run so badly they fucked over

1:17:24

their franchisees and that's why they're gone What

1:17:26

why is it so hard to put russian

1:17:28

dressing on your fucking sandwiches jimmy johns? Jesus

1:17:31

christ the chicken carbonara sub that Quiznos

1:17:33

is delicious So good.

1:17:36

Yes. I'm very upset about I loved it.

1:17:38

It's mostly disappearing. I know jr You got

1:17:40

the original in denver. You're fine. I I

1:17:42

drove past it once and they were like

1:17:44

the original quiz notes And I was like

1:17:46

you bastard you ruined it probably got

1:17:49

an amusement park in it. God damn Yeah

1:17:52

cliff diving they have cliff diving Oh,

1:17:56

oh i'm going there i'm going there

1:17:58

in like 10 days Wow.

1:18:01

Oh, is it opening? It

1:18:03

is open for special

1:18:05

reservations. We put our name on a waiting

1:18:07

list. I was going to say it's a

1:18:09

hot ticket. Months ago, and we finally got

1:18:11

a response saying you can buy

1:18:14

tickets and we bought them for like 10 days

1:18:16

from now. Casa Bonita. You're going to go to

1:18:18

Casa Bonita. We might have to do a whole

1:18:20

podcast about your experience, because let's do I have

1:18:22

built it up in my head so much. I

1:18:24

just assumed I'd never see it like Shanghai Disney.

1:18:27

Holy shit. So excited.

1:18:30

Let's come visit me. We'll make a day of it.

1:18:32

Moving on with the show, I skipped some TV up

1:18:34

early because it was funny. But

1:18:37

yeah, shame how we all about

1:18:39

Janet Jackson. Shame on all of us. Yeah.

1:18:43

Movies now we can get to. First

1:18:45

up, Harredine Stanton, Charlie Sheen, Baby

1:18:48

No Worth, Viddy Jones, Willie Nelson,

1:18:50

Sarah Foster, Gary Sinise, Morgan

1:18:52

Freeman and Owen Wilson

1:18:55

in The Big Bounce. I

1:18:58

want to go to this dinner party. Psychologically,

1:19:04

it's difficult because you're not here to work. I

1:19:06

mean, that's what your brain tells you, because every other

1:19:09

time you've been here has been on vacation. It's just

1:19:11

so much beer. We're

1:19:15

just enjoying the sound of Hawaii, really. And

1:19:17

then every now and then we have to go to work. This

1:19:20

movie has gotten in the way of a really deep... What

1:19:22

the fuck is this? This

1:19:25

is about how they moved

1:19:27

the setting of the Elmore Leonard

1:19:29

book from Michigan to Hawaii. And

1:19:32

this might be one of the reasons

1:19:34

why the movie is not good. Everyone

1:19:38

was basically saying, yeah, I really wanted

1:19:40

a vacation in Hawaii, so I decided

1:19:42

to make a movie while having my

1:19:44

vacation in Hawaii. Wow. Before

1:19:46

Adam Sandler could pioneer such an act. Yeah.

1:19:50

So Elmore Leonard said the worst movie he

1:19:53

ever saw was the adaptation of The

1:19:55

Big Bounce with Ryan O'Neill in it. And he said the

1:19:57

second worst movie he ever saw in his life with

1:20:00

Owen Wilson in it.

1:20:02

Elmore Leonard hated this.

1:20:06

And you know that's the shame because Elmore Leonard most

1:20:09

adaptations are fun his books are fun and

1:20:11

the vast majority of films made out of

1:20:13

them are fucking great. See out

1:20:15

of sight it's like the best movie ever but the big

1:20:17

bounce is about like a guy who's

1:20:24

running afoul of a crime boss and he

1:20:26

moves in with the judge and then he's

1:20:28

like having a fair crime boss's wife and

1:20:30

she sets him up for Mordor. No

1:20:35

one cares. It's a huge bomb.

1:20:38

Made five million dollars of a fifty

1:20:40

million dollar budget. Oh. Huge

1:20:42

bomb. I mean that's an expensive cast

1:20:44

at least half of that had to

1:20:46

have been just the cast. Yep. Yeah.

1:20:49

And then. Oh my. Yeah

1:20:51

let's talk about the real

1:20:55

movie we need to talk about here.

1:20:57

Peter Ricci. Charlie's their own. It's

1:21:00

Monster ladies and gentlemen. Monster. Hey

1:21:04

kill that man.

1:21:06

You're never going to understand it. You gotta

1:21:09

trust me. I got it uncontrolled man. You

1:21:15

can't kill people then. You

1:21:18

know tell me.

1:21:21

You're deal. They're

1:21:24

not even looking. Monster.

1:21:26

You want to talk about eye

1:21:29

acting. At least they're hunting

1:21:33

performance is one of real

1:21:36

life's movie monsters. Eileen Warnos even though I

1:21:38

have a ton of sympathy for her as

1:21:40

a as far as quote

1:21:42

unquote. Yeah. There's sympathy but

1:21:45

she kills so many people

1:21:47

that it's it's kind of

1:21:49

rubbed away. She only kills the people who

1:21:51

are willing to take her man away at

1:21:53

a dollar cost and after

1:21:56

a lifelong of trauma of other

1:21:58

Johns not just people but John's like

1:22:00

it's not it's not the exact same as going

1:22:02

out and Hunting people

1:22:05

for sport. It's a woman trying to

1:22:07

survive like most there almost none

1:22:09

of these other serial killers are even like

1:22:11

stealing from people Hi, I'm

1:22:13

the real lady Mary

1:22:15

interesting. Yeah, the real person married

1:22:18

a rich old man and ended

1:22:20

up beating that rich old man

1:22:22

She didn't didn't stay in that.

1:22:24

Yeah. Oh, so she it

1:22:27

wasn't just like she had no other ways

1:22:29

of She could have you know not beat

1:22:31

an old man and survived She

1:22:34

don't know what he did. Yeah, but no

1:22:36

that's I mean this what makes this so

1:22:38

interesting is yes It's this base the story

1:22:41

of Eileen Warrinos who people generally

1:22:43

point to as being one of the few

1:22:45

female serial killers But you could kind of argue she's

1:22:48

different than other serial killers who

1:22:50

generally kill for a sense of sexual satisfaction and

1:22:55

This makes it seem like she is killing because

1:22:57

she is paranoid because of

1:22:59

past abuse Which seems

1:23:02

rational to a point? That's why

1:23:04

I love that there is It's

1:23:07

unclear and she keeps saying the guy was gonna

1:23:09

rape me I had to shoot him, but also

1:23:12

you took all his money and stole his car

1:23:14

if we're going through the real person

1:23:16

That's one thing But this movie clearly

1:23:18

makes the point that she kills multiple

1:23:20

men who are no threat to her

1:23:23

Surely for the sake of curing and

1:23:25

that's what I like about it. It will

1:23:27

be to feel from them Yeah,

1:23:29

I don't I think it is entirely to

1:23:31

steal from them, but that's her justification in

1:23:33

her head Yes her justification is to make

1:23:35

her the Robin Hood of the awful world

1:23:37

that has been given to her and If

1:23:40

he doesn't even see she doesn't she seems

1:23:42

doesn't seem to care at all Which is

1:23:44

almost more interesting because serial killers you always

1:23:46

see like I feel guilty There's not a

1:23:48

lot of guilt for Eileen Warrinos because of

1:23:51

what shit she's seen Hmm

1:23:54

Well, she's fundamentally a child which

1:23:56

yes horrible childhood. She got stunted

1:23:58

as a child But she there's this

1:24:01

scene when her girlfriend is asking her So what

1:24:03

do you want to do for work if you're

1:24:05

not going to be a hooker anymore? and she

1:24:07

says I'm gonna be a veterinarian and the girlfriend

1:24:09

is like You

1:24:11

have to go to school for that

1:24:13

you have to get a degree and she just

1:24:15

like brushes it aside And it's like well. I

1:24:17

love animals and This is

1:24:19

a scene of her looking for

1:24:21

a job Oh God

1:24:25

Right you make sure that I have all

1:24:27

this straight Basically you

1:24:30

have no experience no college degree no resume

1:24:32

no work history whatsoever in fact and now

1:24:34

you would like to be a lawyer No,

1:24:37

see I was um. I'm sorry, but

1:24:39

when I read the ad it said that you were looking for

1:24:42

a secretary Okay, well you

1:24:44

need to learn how to type you'll

1:24:46

need computer skills most of our secretaries

1:24:48

have college degrees in fact most of

1:24:50

them Have specialized in law. I don't

1:24:52

mean to sound harsh, but frankly. It's

1:24:55

a little insulting I see

1:24:57

you're from Daytona. I Thought

1:25:00

the scene was being played for laughs because I did

1:25:02

a little Well,

1:25:05

it's laughing at her and

1:25:07

laughing at him for being a jerk

1:25:09

cuz he is a complete jerk about

1:25:12

it But if anyone with her demeanor

1:25:14

and her work history came in looking

1:25:16

for a job You would never

1:25:18

hire them unless it was for something like

1:25:20

a dishwasher And there's a

1:25:22

scene when she goes to the unemployment thing and they're

1:25:25

like I'm trying to get out of sex

1:25:27

work. What do you have and they're like well we have Manufacturing

1:25:30

job or something and she you know

1:25:32

refuses to do that She doesn't realize

1:25:34

that she was really starting in a

1:25:36

bad location She has to work at

1:25:39

the very bottom list of bottoms legit

1:25:41

jobs. We talked about people who

1:25:43

are marginalized That's

1:25:46

exactly what she is. She there's there's

1:25:48

she has no Credit

1:25:50

history work history work experience that she could

1:25:53

like write in a resume She probably doesn't

1:25:55

know how to write a resume. She probably

1:25:57

doesn't know how to hand write

1:25:59

a resume because it's not like she

1:26:01

has a computer or a typewriter. I

1:26:03

get typewriter because it's the 80s. Yeah,

1:26:06

so getting back to sort of the

1:26:08

plot as it was is she is

1:26:10

a drifter surviving on sex work, who

1:26:12

is a very good individual. She meets

1:26:14

up with Christina Ritchie who is a

1:26:17

very, very fictionalized version

1:26:19

of a real person.

1:26:21

They have a

1:26:24

relationship that is

1:26:26

very strange and complicated

1:26:28

because they're both so lonely and

1:26:30

feel like they don't

1:26:33

deserve love and feel like this is

1:26:35

their one chance at love. But also,

1:26:37

you know, Christina Ritchie is pushing her into

1:26:40

sex work and then acting like she doesn't

1:26:42

know where the money's coming from when she's coming

1:26:44

back with a lot more money than she would

1:26:46

be getting from truck stop sex

1:26:48

work. And so,

1:26:52

Charlie's like, people made jokes

1:26:54

that, oh, here's Charlie's there on getting an

1:26:56

Oscar for looking like a normal person instead

1:26:58

of the goddess that she is. No, no,

1:27:02

she made incredible transformation. I

1:27:04

mean, she looks bad.

1:27:07

I mean, to be blunt, she is not

1:27:09

an attractive woman in this movie, which is

1:27:11

an accomplishment. But then,

1:27:13

then almost two, one of

1:27:16

us is not a terrible looking lady as terrible

1:27:18

as this depiction. But the performance in

1:27:20

general is someone kind

1:27:23

of a little deranged and desperate.

1:27:25

And you can do some scene

1:27:27

by scene comparisons of this film

1:27:29

with the documentary we talked about

1:27:31

last week. And she nails it.

1:27:33

Yeah, yeah. She will. And one thing

1:27:35

she does that I don't know if I've ever

1:27:37

seen anyone do so well that I've seen in

1:27:39

real life, but I don't see in movies that

1:27:41

often is the the

1:27:45

way she keeps talking about like, I'm fine. I'm

1:27:47

having a great time. This is great. I don't

1:27:49

care. I'm actually laughing. And you can see how

1:27:52

she is so close, like, she

1:27:55

doesn't want to admit that she's very hurt and she

1:27:57

is close to tears. And that's

1:27:59

like her fallback. position where she starts strutting

1:28:01

around kind of like a rooster of

1:28:03

just like no, it's great I love I

1:28:05

everything's going great for me. Everything's just just

1:28:08

great And like you

1:28:10

just want to hug her and be like just admit

1:28:12

it's not it's okay You're

1:28:15

going to make bad decisions if you keep

1:28:17

being in denial like this Yeah,

1:28:20

and she does wow that make the

1:28:22

worst decisions possible I think

1:28:24

she's you know fundamentally stunted as a

1:28:27

child She has a child's

1:28:29

emotional range as an adult if you

1:28:31

have ever wondered why do your parents

1:28:33

try so hard to get you to

1:28:35

grow Up it's because a child with

1:28:37

childlike emotions is cute an adult with

1:28:40

childlike emotions can be a monster

1:28:43

Just a monster. Yeah, yeah

1:28:47

Yeah, I was kind of Worried.

1:28:49

I actually didn't see this movie back in 2004 I

1:28:52

was like this is gonna be a tough watch. I feel like

1:28:54

it's going to just be I Don't

1:28:57

know Just

1:28:59

I mean yeah, it's unpleasant obviously,

1:29:01

but I was worried there's going to be like

1:29:03

scenes You know, we're gonna see how she got

1:29:05

this way in more graphic ways

1:29:07

But no, I should have known it's

1:29:10

Patty Jenkins in her directorial debut. Yeah,

1:29:13

what's her next movie Wonder Woman? Yes.

1:29:16

Yeah Her next movie is Wonder

1:29:18

Woman. She does a lot of TV. I think she

1:29:20

did Ozymandias the Breaking Bad episode She does a fucking

1:29:22

ton of TV, but she comes out of practically

1:29:24

nowhere with this movie Which Charlize Theron really

1:29:26

wanted to do push really hard to get

1:29:29

it done very

1:29:31

very tiny budget they make every

1:29:33

dollar stretch and It's

1:29:36

got the sympathy for

1:29:38

her while never excusing

1:29:42

How fucked up she is that and that's

1:29:44

I'd watch this and was thought it was

1:29:46

Unbelievably compelling. I thought I never wanted to watch

1:29:48

it again and just I wrote

1:29:50

it just as I wrote it down Just like because

1:29:53

of how many murder mysteries streaming

1:29:55

and podcasts have had me endure

1:29:57

of young women of the

1:29:59

evening evening, when

1:30:02

a prostitute goes missing because they've been

1:30:04

murdered, I could say

1:30:07

nobody gives a shit

1:30:09

because that's true, but nobody notices.

1:30:11

When the Johns go missing, it's

1:30:13

a panic. So in that sense,

1:30:15

if you're watching the movie with

1:30:17

that mindset, this is awesome. This

1:30:20

is awesome. I don't know. I don't mean

1:30:22

to shame sex workers or people who engage

1:30:24

in it because I know there's different

1:30:27

areas of ethics there.

1:30:30

There's an exploitation film definitely

1:30:32

to be made of

1:30:35

revenge against all the

1:30:38

people who... And the movie doesn't do that. It doesn't

1:30:40

ask you to sit in that. But

1:30:42

that was just where my mindset was

1:30:44

coming into it. Was it

1:30:46

Angel from the 1980s basically that? I

1:30:49

don't know. There's many, many movies like that, sadly.

1:30:51

I mean, there's a lot of rape and revenge

1:30:54

movies, but I don't know about sex

1:30:56

workers going after serial killers because, yeah,

1:30:58

sex workers are their number one target

1:31:01

because who's going to notice if

1:31:03

they disappear? They must have left town. Yeah.

1:31:06

Whatever. They were just blown through anyway.

1:31:08

Yeah. But yeah, they

1:31:10

John, typical John, he's

1:31:12

got a bank loan and a family. Yeah,

1:31:16

people will notice him missing much earlier. But

1:31:18

yeah, yeah, but just a transfixing film and

1:31:21

kind of like nothing else I've ever seen

1:31:23

in my life. It's because it doesn't end

1:31:25

up being a violent revenge

1:31:27

film and it doesn't end up being based on

1:31:29

a true story film and it doesn't end up

1:31:31

feeling like a film about a serial killer because

1:31:34

this person isn't as menacing or

1:31:36

predatory as most serial

1:31:39

killers we see on TV and

1:31:41

movies. I can't

1:31:43

recommend it enough, which is why I'm

1:31:45

happy to say with... I

1:31:48

love that some of these more incredibly

1:31:50

famous movies that are hard to watch,

1:31:53

they end up being the sluts of streaming

1:31:56

because it's just that notion of like, I

1:31:59

know I should see this. but I don't want to pay

1:32:01

for it. And I know it might be a bummer. We'll

1:32:03

just put it everywhere for free. The

1:32:05

movie Monster, Patty Jenkins Monster, is streaming,

1:32:07

maybe we should do Wacko here, Pluto

1:32:10

and Voodoo and Redbox and Crackle and

1:32:12

Plex and Freebie and Amazon Prime Video

1:32:14

and Fubo and Philo. It's streaming everywhere

1:32:17

for nothing. So if you've ever been

1:32:19

curious, it's everywhere. Easy

1:32:21

to watch and I thoroughly recommend it. Totally worth

1:32:23

a watch. It's not only one of the best

1:32:26

performances from a human being I've ever seen. I

1:32:29

don't know what Patty Jenkins did to

1:32:32

make it feel completely uncliched, but

1:32:34

it never does. There's nothing quite like

1:32:36

Monster. I fucking loved

1:32:38

it a lot more than I thought

1:32:40

I'd be way more uncomfortable and unnerved by

1:32:42

it. But I just even found myself smiling

1:32:44

at certain points because Charlize Theron is

1:32:47

doing some crazy shit. Obviously

1:32:49

she deserved a nomination. She did

1:32:52

win, right? She won. Had

1:32:56

it written down on the other computer. But yes, love

1:32:58

this movie. See it everywhere, because that's

1:33:00

where it is. I

1:33:03

don't give a fuck about the next two movies,

1:33:05

I should say, right off the bat. Matthew

1:33:08

Lillard, Leonardo Nam, that's

1:33:10

a great name. Darius

1:33:12

Niles, Scarlett Johansson, Brian Greenberg,

1:33:14

Chris Evans and Eric Christensen

1:33:17

in the perfect score. Two

1:33:19

desperate friends. Yes, they see us messing with

1:33:21

the rest of our lives. They say we

1:33:24

steal the answers to the test. Now everyone,

1:33:26

you told Anna Ross one more

1:33:28

person once in on the action. This

1:33:31

Friday, join the revolution. It sounds like

1:33:33

fun. We can do this, but we

1:33:36

have got to trust each other. You've

1:33:38

assembled a crack team chief, the perfect

1:33:40

score. Say hello to your teacher, copy

1:33:42

it. The perfect score. I

1:33:45

think this movie made a big mistake

1:33:48

by not being made in the 1980s, okay? It

1:33:52

needed to be like some gross 1980s

1:33:54

teen comedy where

1:33:58

everyone is horrible. Everyone

1:34:00

is too nice in this. Why

1:34:04

is Scarlett Johansson here? We've

1:34:06

already talked about Lost in Translation. She

1:34:08

does not need to be third or

1:34:11

fourth billed in a teenage

1:34:13

wacky high comedy. I love, I

1:34:16

refrained from posting this so many, I kept

1:34:19

seeing this picture and coming

1:34:21

across this picture of Captain America and Black

1:34:23

Widow together 10,

1:34:25

15 years before the fact, but they're all dressed like me

1:34:27

in 2001. Somebody

1:34:30

in fashion is this, you nailed

1:34:32

it. You nailed it. You nailed that single line

1:34:35

across the long sleeve t-shirt with no collar, nailed

1:34:37

it. It is weird

1:34:39

seeing baby Scarlett Johansson in a

1:34:41

fight scene that is a complete

1:34:43

parody, but there's a

1:34:45

couple of moments when you're like, I could believe this

1:34:47

is Black Widow. I could believe that this is the

1:34:50

scene that got her the Black

1:34:52

Widow role. Yeah, that's

1:34:54

true. It's just a Matrix parody, but I mean,

1:34:56

she's in a tight black cat suit, so. Jumping

1:34:59

around, kicking ass, so yeah. Yeah,

1:35:03

I think, I mean, the idea is,

1:35:05

yeah, these guys, they all need

1:35:07

to do well on the SAT, so they come up with a

1:35:10

plan to break into a

1:35:12

local testing office and they're gonna steal the

1:35:14

SATs. It's like,

1:35:16

you know how, it's not hard, especially back

1:35:18

then, like now they have, I think, essays

1:35:20

in the SAT. Like, it

1:35:24

was not hard to cram and get

1:35:26

prep stuff and they teach you how

1:35:28

to read the questions

1:35:30

properly. I think that's it. Like, you

1:35:32

guys need to get over at 900,

1:35:34

you can do that. Mm-hmm, and just couple

1:35:36

that with it's 2004, you

1:35:40

should learn some hacking, maybe

1:35:42

a little hack or something, maybe that's a better

1:35:45

way to find it, just do a test. Maybe

1:35:47

get a fake ID and have someone take the

1:35:49

test for you. Yeah, there are

1:35:51

less elaborate, cheaper ways. It's for

1:35:54

a Bultesanti's Asian test taker, hire

1:35:56

that guy. Exactly, yeah, I think

1:35:58

the only thing I did... even finish

1:36:00

this. The only thing that stood out to me is

1:36:02

Chris Evans sounds way more Boston in this than

1:36:04

he is now. And this

1:36:07

is the kindest anybody has talked about the movie

1:36:09

ever as far as I can tell from its

1:36:11

Rotten Tomatoes score. Yeah. Sitting

1:36:14

at a 16% here. Yeah.

1:36:16

Doesn't get a lot better, but it doesn't look

1:36:18

like it makes anything. Whereas the next movie, Critics

1:36:21

Hate, doesn't matter. Nope.

1:36:24

It doesn't matter. Drew Frederick,

1:36:27

Demaria Thornton, Jarrell Houston,

1:36:29

Jennifer Freeman, Marquise

1:36:32

Houston, why are they related? Omarion

1:36:34

Granberry, we got, now we're in the

1:36:37

box office, gave us an

1:36:39

entire term. I love what a movie does

1:36:41

that. You got served. We did get served.

1:37:12

We all got served with You Got Served. We're

1:37:14

all served. Also, the writer-director

1:37:17

is the business manager for

1:37:19

Marcos Houston and B2K. So

1:37:24

this is synergy. Yeah,

1:37:26

baby. Yeah, and it's hard to

1:37:28

tell. This is a

1:37:30

product. And is it successful? Well,

1:37:33

yeah, but just go. Well, now

1:37:35

you can go on YouTube and just watch the dance

1:37:37

scenes, which are the only thing you actually want to

1:37:39

see. Everything is so

1:37:41

eye-rolling in between. I don't know that

1:37:44

I bounced. I knew I was going

1:37:46

to bounce from it, but it was

1:37:48

very early in the process. I'm out.

1:37:50

I think Dark Dungeons, the movie's portrayal

1:37:53

of plain Dungeons & Dragons, is more

1:37:55

accurate than this movie's portrayal of inner-city

1:37:57

dance contest. Because,

1:38:00

oh boy, are there so many aspects where you're like, that

1:38:04

can't be real. There's

1:38:06

no way that's a thing. That doesn't

1:38:08

exist. It did get me thinking, because we've talked about a

1:38:10

bunch of these. There's

1:38:13

a serviceable plot getting you to and from

1:38:15

dance scenes, which is what people are there

1:38:18

to see. They don't care

1:38:20

who falls in love, who dies, who their parents

1:38:22

are. You just want to see these sequences. Whereas

1:38:25

I think there was an article about it, like

1:38:27

how terrified Hollywood is of marketing musical. I

1:38:30

had a friend walk out of Mean Girls 2024 and

1:38:32

like, I had no idea that

1:38:34

was a musical. You

1:38:37

could do the same thing with Color Purple.

1:38:39

Cats, okay, cats might have ruined that. They've

1:38:42

done that in the past, especially with a lot

1:38:44

of Disney movies. They don't tell you that they're

1:38:47

fucking musicals. I saw plenty of Frozen ads that

1:38:49

didn't lead you to believe there'd be singing, not

1:38:51

just singing but numbers. But

1:38:53

these dance movies lead with that shit. What is

1:38:56

wrong with marketing? They

1:38:58

always do well. Why won't you

1:39:00

tell people what's in your movie? Yeah,

1:39:03

I don't understand why they're doing that right

1:39:05

now, making musicals and pretending

1:39:09

that they're not musicals. Going to all that trouble

1:39:12

and not letting their audience know what this

1:39:14

is. I mean, this seems a perfectly

1:39:16

serviceable plot that there's this one dance

1:39:18

crew and then they get challenged by

1:39:20

another dance crew and then, oh, there's

1:39:22

a Judas amongst them. I

1:39:24

think we have a clip of that challenge.

1:39:26

Oh, I hope it's this. Yeah. Hi,

1:39:29

my name's Randy Marsh. I'm Stan

1:39:31

Marsh's father. Oh, so you're the

1:39:33

father of the boy who's going to get F'd in the

1:39:35

A on Saturday. Listen,

1:39:40

it was my fault that Stanley served your boys

1:39:42

the other day. I told him to

1:39:44

do it and I, well, look, I

1:39:47

just came down here to tell you it's

1:39:49

not on. Oh, it's

1:39:51

on? No, no, no, it's not on.

1:39:54

Oh, it's on. All right. It

1:39:56

isn't on. Everything's on. It's off. It's

1:39:59

on. I'm keeping my son home Saturday. I

1:40:01

just came by to let you know so you can put

1:40:04

a stop to all this. Goodbye. But

1:40:06

again, that's how... Into the

1:40:09

lexicon, the title of this movie went and

1:40:12

Legacy lasted a lot longer than any of

1:40:14

these other dance movies. You

1:40:16

don't see a bunch of people out there saying, what are you, I'm

1:40:18

stomping the yard! I don't hear that ever. I

1:40:21

gotta step up! I gotta step up! I

1:40:24

gotta step up to the streets! Step up to the streets!

1:40:26

With a two in it! Let's

1:40:29

move on. Let's move on to TV.

1:40:32

Monster's the big recommendation of that whole

1:40:34

section. The Koala

1:40:37

Brothers premieres, the

1:40:39

Koala Brothers. Two

1:40:42

Koalas in the Australian

1:40:44

Outback fly around promoting cooperation

1:40:46

and kindness. Hell yeah. Aww.

1:40:50

The show I have never

1:40:52

seen but listened to at my Chinese food

1:40:54

delivery job in my car, Ted

1:40:57

Danson's Follow Up to Cheers 1998 to

1:40:59

Right Now, Becker Ends. Becker

1:41:03

is over. No!

1:41:05

Yeah. There's so much

1:41:07

more to say! Becker

1:41:09

was a sitcom house. A

1:41:12

very cantankerous doctor. Who

1:41:15

was a cantankerous but not enough to not lead

1:41:17

a network show and was somehow not racist even

1:41:19

though it always sounded like he was just about

1:41:21

to be. So other

1:41:23

than Cheers in the Good Place, this

1:41:26

is Ted Danson's most famous role, right?

1:41:30

Yeah, even though he's been on CSI for like,

1:41:32

he was on the first episode. And Bored to

1:41:35

Death is one of my favorite shows and

1:41:37

so much we went to a symposium about it

1:41:39

and Ted Danson said, this is my favorite thing

1:41:41

that has ever been written for me. Bored

1:41:44

to Death. Big Bored to Death was

1:41:46

good but it's forgotten by everyone. Becker,

1:41:49

as far as I can tell,

1:41:51

has one superfan

1:41:53

on the internet desperate

1:41:56

to try to make a grand Becker

1:41:59

record. retrospective and

1:42:01

this is what he says at the start of his

1:42:03

video. Okay,

1:42:32

my hats off to the Myers fan 25

1:42:35

because many of shows like this don't

1:42:37

have an individual like you

1:42:39

to capture and edit and upload

1:42:42

clips. Those Venn diagrams don't overlap

1:42:44

because Becker was intended for a

1:42:46

much older audience. I

1:42:48

encourage you to invest in some lighting because

1:42:51

I can't see anything in this video. I

1:42:54

can see a door open in the background and that is

1:42:56

it for a very, very long time. For

1:42:58

the record, no cast members appear in that video.

1:43:00

No. My brother

1:43:03

in Christ, edit that

1:43:05

part out of your video. You do not

1:43:07

need to inform me. You are

1:43:09

going to try to get people on. He told you,

1:43:11

you'll know at the end of the video whether they're

1:43:13

in there or not. What a brilliant cliffhanger. I'll

1:43:16

stick around to the end to

1:43:19

see if that one sarcastic lady makes it in. And

1:43:23

then Boston Public also ends after

1:43:25

four years on the end.

1:43:28

This is a nice show. What I hear. The

1:43:31

Boston universe of

1:43:33

Boston legal slash the practice.

1:43:36

But it's about a school and

1:43:38

the teachers and having problems amongst

1:43:40

themselves. Got Chai McBride as the

1:43:42

principal who's just some Iowa that was late.

1:43:45

I don't understand why he doesn't get more work. One

1:43:48

of those guys. Loretta Divine too was on

1:43:50

it. I just love her. I love

1:43:52

her to pieces. And yeah, it was fun. You

1:43:55

know, it's a David E. Kelly joint. Yeah. It's

1:43:57

pretty good. You know, it's critically

1:43:59

acclaimed at the time. time doesn't do it

1:44:01

does okay for like a season then it

1:44:03

falls off and then again like then

1:44:06

it's gone like where where it's events

1:44:08

where it has this giant shared

1:44:12

practice universe where people want

1:44:14

to connect the dots blessed

1:44:17

in public this one got

1:44:19

them this is the one I almost got closest

1:44:21

to checking out because of how good a

1:44:23

couple friends said it was blessed in public

1:44:26

but it doesn't come anywhere near dropped

1:44:28

in and out it was fine but yes let's

1:44:30

talk about the longest running

1:44:32

show in British TV history and tonight

1:44:35

we're gonna talk about all six episodes

1:44:40

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1:44:42

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1:44:45

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1:44:50

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