Helen Thorn is a comedian, writer and one half of the comedy duo Scummy Mummies with her friend Ellie Gibson. For the past eight years, she has talked about the ridiculous highs and hilarious lows of motherhood, usually while dressed in a gold catsuit.

In our conversation today, Helen talks with her usual warmth and humour about not just parenting, but marriage, and about the reasons why she, and many other women, hold onto the idea marriage so tightly. How society tells us that marriage is the ultimate goal and that anyone whose marriage ends is an object of pity or judgement. As a vicar's daughter, growing up in busy, happy household in Melbourne, Australia, Helen understandably had her own ideas on what her own experience of marriage would be. That belief was blown apart just days before the world went into lockdown in March 2020 when she discovered her husband had been having an affair, and they made the decision to separate.

Helen also explores the healing powers of friendship, the joy of taking control of your own life and 'being the boss of everything' what it is like to venture into the world of dating again for the first time in over 20 years.

This is a warm, funny, heart-breaking conversation about discovering that there is much more to life than putting up with a crap husband...