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in the winter of nineteen eighty

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nine, a brave college

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sophomore stepped into a spotlight to

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do a reading of his one man play.

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The protagonist was an unrecycled carton

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of milk yearning for a place to call

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home. And that Parnell of milk

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was me. The response

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was mixed,

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By the second act, the entire audience had

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walked out to the bar across the street where

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my own parents treated everyone two

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shots. Sure. It's done

0:47

a little. But the point is art

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can bring people together, whether to

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celebrate my theatrical debut or

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knows all about the power of art, the

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spoken word and building community. So

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gather around folks, we're going to learn about

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factory Lector. Alright.

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I think that sounded pretty good.

1:08

Hey, Chris. You okay?

1:10

That story was pretty brutal.

1:12

I'm good. Can't

1:15

win everyone over. Our our guest will get it.

1:17

He's a performer

1:17

too. But that sounded really personal.

1:20

I mean, the stuff with your parents.

1:22

God. It's fine. It's fine. So what

1:24

if they thought my theater degree was

1:26

impractical and at my aspirations, like

1:28

purpose? I'm I'm at peace with it.

1:31

If you say so?

1:32

Anyway, ready for a great show?

1:34

Yeah. It's gonna be great.

1:35

Thanks, mom. I mean, Linda.

1:38

Thanks, Linda.

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From I'm Chris Parnell, and

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this is This job is history.

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Where each week I interview actual

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worked some of the strangest, most unexpected

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Hello, and welcome to this job

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is history. Today, we're joined by Carlos

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Falcone, who's coming to us all the way from

3:38

Tampa in the year twenty

3:40

five to talk about his job as a factory

3:43

lecturer. Carlos, welcome.

3:45

And let me say you have a very

3:47

good handshake. Wow. Thank

3:49

you. My grandmother taught me that the

3:51

handshake is the most important part

3:53

of a first impression. Oh, well, I hope

3:55

mine met your grandmother's standards.

3:58

It was a little swipe the bottom very

3:59

other question. You flatter me Carlos?

4:02

And may I say, you really know how

4:04

to pull off a white linen suit? So

4:07

to kick things off, could you tell us in your own

4:09

words? What exactly is a factory

4:11

Lector? Yes, of course. In

4:13

a Spanish, the word Lecture means

4:16

reader. Lector job is to

4:18

read books, new articles, sometimes

4:20

poems, to cigar makers while

4:22

they work. However, smoked a Cuban

4:24

cigar, I'm afraid not.

4:26

I have a condition my doctor calls

4:29

baby lung. It might sound embarrassing,

4:31

but I'm told it's associated with strong

4:33

jaw lines.

4:33

Chris, that doesn't

4:36

sound like a thing. Did you hear that from

4:38

a doctor or did you find

4:40

it online? I hear

4:41

mail, who's soothing and speaking voice,

4:43

so clear, so authoritative. Oh,

4:46

that's my producer, Linda. Linda,

4:48

wonderful name. Did you

4:50

know it means lovely English,

4:52

I do. I was named after my own

4:54

Ooyala. Oh,

4:55

San Yurita. Have you ever smoked

4:57

a cuban cigar?

4:58

No. But my Ooyala did. She said

5:01

they cleared the air of bad spirits. Personally,

5:03

I prefer for breeze. Yes,

5:05

cigars are very versatile, but

5:07

more than that, Cuba cigars are at the

5:09

root of my job. You see, factory

5:12

electronics started back in Cuba

5:14

in eighteen sixty 5. A political

5:16

reformist named Nicolas Ascaráte

5:18

proposed bringing people into Rio to the cigar

5:21

makers. It not only provided relief

5:23

from board on what they worked, it also

5:25

had educational value, the practice

5:27

became so popular that they migrated

5:29

to Florida with the Cuban community.

5:32

Carlos, you're quite the story teller.

5:34

Thank you. Yes. You see,

5:36

my role as is to

5:38

entertain the workers with whatever material

5:40

I read aloud. What what do you

5:42

like to read? What's the what's the shift

5:44

special? My

5:46

favorites are great works of literature from

5:48

the likes of Dostoevsky and Cervantes

5:51

or the Poondos Parnell Neruda,

5:53

and the great Jose Martí. Personally,

5:55

I really love the twilight book series.

5:58

It really reignited my love of reading.

6:00

For me, it's also

6:02

really a joy. Helping people get through

6:04

a long day, sharing my love of

6:06

reading, and captivating an audience.

6:08

Yes. You're there to entertain. Yeah. That's

6:10

what I love to do too. Except no

6:12

one really gets my work. I mean,

6:14

what's so crazy about dreaming big and

6:16

wanting to make people laugh or cry? Especially

6:18

while playing an unrecycled milk garden.

6:20

Chris, Lector not go into that

6:22

now. Focus on your guests. No.

6:24

No. No. It's okay. I

6:25

understand what Chris O'Reilly is coming from.

6:27

A

6:28

wise man once said,

6:30

to

6:30

surrender dreams?

6:32

This may be madness. And

6:34

matters of all, to see life

6:36

as it is and not as

6:38

it should be.

6:39

Carlos, yes, I see a world

6:41

where Imagine if solo character

6:43

work of one hundred twenty plus minutes knowing

6:45

her mission doesn't just have a place. It

6:48

can change people's hearts and lives.

6:49

I'm not

6:50

gonna surrender that dream. It's

6:54

like you've looked directly into my

6:56

soul. Well, not me

6:58

exactly. That's

7:00

a line from Don Quixote, one of

7:02

the greatest works of literature publishing

7:04

sixteen oh five. Some

7:06

say their first not whatever. Oh, right.

7:08

Madalamancha just adored

7:10

that musical. Then you know

7:12

that it's about a whimsical man, who refused

7:14

his to give up his ideas of the world.

7:17

And a Star Wars companion who

7:19

keeps him grounded in reality.

7:21

I love reading a book to my colleagues

7:23

in the factory. He got a lot of laughs.

7:25

Oh, I bet. Fun

7:27

fact, I played one of the windmills in my high

7:29

school production. Carlos,

7:32

did you always wanna be a lecturer? What

7:34

was this the impossible dream you

7:36

dreamed?

7:37

Not exactly, but I always knew I was

7:39

destined to

7:39

do something great. You see my dear

7:41

Josepsion, she has a special

7:43

gift. She can foretell people's destinies.

7:46

And she told me, she saw great things

7:48

in my future. I didn't just like

7:50

that. She always told me, it's okay. There's a

7:52

place for people like you somewhere.

7:54

Yes, exactly. The burning of

7:56

social vision can be overwhelming. She

7:58

left me

7:59

what would be my calling? How

8:02

could I live up to her vision?

8:03

My first thought was Become

8:06

a doctor. Oh, no. That's what my parents

8:08

call a real job. It is a very

8:10

noble profession. But I passed

8:12

out after seeing my colleague

8:13

Nick himself cutting an old, young,

8:15

So clearly not my destiny. We're

8:18

so alike. I am not good with blood

8:20

either. So what happened after that

8:22

didn't work out? I was worried I never

8:24

found a way to live up to the echo septon's vision.

8:26

Then one day, I was walking

8:28

along the Malek home, around the Havana Harbor,

8:30

feeling sorry for myself. And I stopped by

8:32

for a drinking at Tara near the water.

8:35

I made

8:35

a sea captain drinking, three

8:37

drinks seeing he offered me a job on his

8:39

boat, And I thought, this is

8:41

it. This is my greatness to travel the

8:43

world. And within three weeks, I was the first

8:45

mate heading to Miami aboard the

8:47

SS of Angelin. Carlos, he

8:49

became a first mate in

8:51

three weeks, doesn't that usually take

8:53

years? I'm a quick study. I

8:55

can be very charming. So

9:00

There I was taking people

9:02

to one from Havana. I got a

9:04

little seasick, but I figured I'd get over

9:06

it. It was an easy passage. You know, it's

9:08

only ninety miles of the United States.

9:10

No. Wow. That sounds almost

9:12

swimmable. Some Pablo had offered to

9:14

let me take over us captain. He

9:16

was nearly retired, but a captain's

9:18

life was not for me. I I couldn't get over

9:20

the sea sickness. So I

9:22

asked him to drop me off instead. To

9:24

seek my destiny in the exotic foreign

9:26

land of Tampa, Florida. Yes.

9:29

Florida is exotic. You know, I once

9:31

came across this man, at a in

9:33

Jacksonville wearing bedazzled jorts

9:35

and swinging a four foot

9:37

alligator. That is something

9:39

you do not see while vacationing

9:41

and getting me. Yes. III

9:43

know of this Florida man.

9:46

He once came into a provisions to

9:48

try frequent, also with an alligator,

9:50

Wearing trousers. Hey,

9:52

guys. Can we get back

9:54

on topic? Of

9:55

course, Saint Yurida. The thing that surprised

9:57

me the most about Danpart was how

9:59

much it felt like havana.

10:02

You

10:02

see, many of my competitors

10:04

left Cuba for Florida seeking

10:06

economics. A reality, a better future.

10:08

So when I arrived in Tampa, I

10:10

heard the same music from my homeland

10:12

on

10:12

the streets.

10:14

Rumbaros playing wonderful

10:16

Cuban melodies from my youth.

10:18

Sweet mongo and guava in the

10:21

marketplace.

10:21

The smells of coffee

10:23

collection. Oh, I can smell

10:25

it. I really can.

10:26

That's your coffee, Chris. Europe

10:28

smelling your own

10:29

coffee. Oh,

10:30

right. I could go dazing

10:33

Tampa without speaking a word of English. So

10:35

did you take classes or something?

10:37

Oh, no. I had to practice it

10:39

by repeating back what I heard on the

10:41

radio. Like, it's a whole

10:43

run and let's play some

10:45

baseball or all ultra baby

10:47

brews inject sheet testicles extract

10:49

to improve swing. Things of

10:51

that nature.

10:52

Before you ask Chris, the babe

10:54

roofing, it's True. I

10:56

just googled it.

10:57

There really are so many ways

11:00

to learn a language, especially

11:02

with so many American sports scandals

11:04

on the radio. Okay.

11:06

So there you are in Tampa. How'd

11:08

you wind up in a cigar factory reading to

11:10

the workers? Well, I needed

11:12

to find a job fast. Looking

11:15

for me, it was easy to find work in a

11:17

cigar factory. This year,

11:19

nineteen twenty five, Tampa

11:21

produced one hundred million cigars

11:23

We say cigars are to Tampa as steel is to

11:25

Pittsburgh. Let me guess. It's because there's

11:27

a lot of steel in Pittsburgh.

11:29

Yes, Greece,

11:32

very astute.

11:33

So I was hired by Corazon Kowano

11:35

cigars to be a door set owner. That's a

11:37

cigar maker. It is a very precise craft

11:39

and requires enormous training. You

11:41

must learn how to expertly gather the

11:44

tobacco leaves, then tightly shape and

11:46

bind them. It is all by hand and

11:48

and there is an art to it.

11:50

Right. Like when I was studying mine, it

11:52

took me five years to get out of the

11:54

box. Then you Wondery.

11:55

Well, one day, I

11:58

overslept. If you're late, you'll

11:59

be scolded or worse,

12:02

fired. I

12:02

run to work and race to the door

12:04

I knew I needed anything excuse. There was

12:07

no time to sink, so I blurted

12:09

out. I'm sorry I'm late and

12:11

all warming fell into the sea. Oh,

12:14

no. Yes. Everyone around

12:16

me also dressed like a teenage girl.

12:18

They stopped working and gathered around,

12:20

I said, I had to savor

12:22

so I ripped off my clothes and I dove

12:24

straight into the water without fear

12:26

for my own life. More

12:28

gasps and now the crowd grew

12:30

bigger. They were hanging on my everywhere. So

12:32

I went on. I

12:33

pulled the boar booming from the ocean

12:36

depths. Then dove to

12:38

retrieve her handbag and then down

12:40

again to retrieve her locket with

12:42

her dead husband's smiling

12:44

face. By the time I was done and

12:46

out of breath, everyone was

12:48

cheering and clapping.

12:49

Some were wiping tears from their eyes.

12:52

My

12:52

god, I cannot believe that happened

12:55

to you.

12:55

What? No.

12:56

It it wasn't real. It

12:58

was just a story I made up, so so

13:00

I get fired. Oh. Well, you certainly

13:03

had Linda and me fooled. Yep.

13:04

Definitely not fooled. I

13:07

knew Carlos made it up. Many

13:08

of my fellow workers came up to

13:11

congratulate me. Cylinder, they

13:13

believed them? No. Not at

13:15

all. Like I said, it was a ridiculous

13:17

story. My superheroes at Lector factory

13:19

are very intelligent, like your producer,

13:22

Linda. No. They applauded

13:24

me because they were entertained. So

13:26

after that, Sofia, the

13:28

president of the reading committee, appointed

13:30

me the new

13:31

Lector. Oh, just like that.

13:33

Were you the first one in the factory?

13:35

No. At that time, Raul Mendoza

13:37

was Lector though many of the

13:39

compagneros were not found. You see, for

13:41

which Raul refused to read anything

13:43

except the draft of his own novel.

13:46

Wanted the Doris, that's what we call

13:48

the cigar makers to give him notes.

13:50

And we tried to give him constructive

13:52

feedback, but he will get

13:53

defensive. Said we didn't get

13:55

it. Then we

13:56

said, Raul, do you want feedback or

13:58

do you want to be told it's perfect?

13:59

Okay. Well, you know, Carlos is

14:02

where I'm gonna agree to disagree with you.

14:04

I'm not sure. An artist must

14:06

be willing to take feedback, but not

14:07

if it's hurtful. Well, Chris,

14:10

sometimes critical feedback is necessary.

14:12

So you don't, you know, for example,

14:15

humiliate yourself in front of a Broadway

14:17

producer at a party. Howard Bauchner:

14:18

Okay. Well, then maybe some people

14:20

don't appreciate shape that death of a salesman

14:22

would make a perfect big budget

14:24

musical.

14:25

Truthfully, I don't think I would even care about

14:27

being Lector He was determined

14:29

to be Tampa's number one self published

14:31

author. Now, I don't mean

14:33

to brag, but I've had a

14:35

captive audience on the factory floor

14:37

ever since. Well, that's not

14:39

surprising at all, Carlos. Your voice is

14:41

really something else. As a

14:43

matter of fact, do you think you might be

14:45

able to demonstrate a reading for

14:47

us? Nothing would please me more. Do

14:49

you happen to have a classic novel on

14:51

you a Hemingway or Saramantes or

14:54

anything by Tolstoy? So

14:56

we don't really keep novels in the studio

14:58

and I must have forgotten all mine at home. I

15:00

I usually have something lying around, but

15:02

oh, I do have this parking

15:05

ticket. Lector me see that, Chris.

15:07

Yes. Okay. This

15:10

vehicle is illegally

15:12

Parnell.

15:13

It is parked in two

15:15

spaces. Your license

15:17

number has been recorded. Additional

15:20

violations may result in the

15:22

towing of the vehicle. License

15:24

number. 6E7

15:27

Tell me how you can't get that part. Oh

15:30

my god. That was unbelievable. I

15:33

was totally transported. I really

15:35

felt like I had to pay that parking ticket.

15:37

You do have to pay that parking ticket,

15:39

Chris? Yeah. Right.

15:40

Well, that was still a lot of

15:43

fun. So and this is a completely

15:45

separate question. Hypothetically speaking,

15:47

of course, what do you do when

15:49

people are less supportive of the

15:51

work you're doing? How do you mean?

15:53

When you know, like, the the people ever say

15:55

things, like, we wish you weren't doing

15:57

this or get a real job.

15:59

Is

16:00

this about your milk carton

16:02

performance again? Maybe

16:04

a little. When, like, your fair play,

16:07

the

16:07

dosadores don't always like my reading.

16:09

Once I read them a popular novel

16:12

and wasn't much better than a penny

16:14

dreadful, and I had no character

16:16

development whatsoever. And we could

16:18

see the ending coming a mile away. I I

16:20

hardly make it to the second chapter

16:22

before I heard the bang of Chavez. These

16:24

are the knives they used to make the cigars.

16:26

Queen. When they

16:27

don't like a reading, they threaten you with knives.

16:29

Linda, just so you know, I'm

16:31

not okay with knives.

16:33

This isn't website story,

16:35

Chris? No. No. They don't

16:37

threaten me with their Shavetas. They throw them

16:39

on the ground to express their displeasure.

16:41

It's no threat, except to

16:43

my pride. But in

16:45

general, they really support my work.

16:47

I learned that without a doubt only

16:49

last week. I'm sensing a

16:51

story here. There are

16:53

stories everywhere, Chris. Now

16:55

this one just recently happened.

16:58

It was a hot summer day.

17:00

An ocean breeze Wondery defactory

17:03

floor. Oh, wait.

17:03

I'm really sorry to cut you off Carlos,

17:05

but we need to pause for an ad.

17:07

hey,

17:07

Linda. I got an idea. Can

17:10

Carlos toss us to the break? Oh,

17:13

sure.

17:13

Why not? Carlos, are you okay with that?

17:16

At

17:16

your service. Okay.

17:18

Great. Yeah. Just read those bottom

17:20

two lines on Chris' script and feel free

17:22

to make a euro.

17:24

Domas

17:26

and Carreyros will be back

17:28

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17:31

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17:33

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19:42

No

19:47

Carlos,

19:49

You

19:51

said you had a story about your work in the cigar factory

19:54

and the support of your colleagues?

19:56

Yes. Allow me to

19:57

transport you to the Corazone

19:59

Kuanozigar five three in

20:02

Tampa. It was another

20:04

humid July morning. The air

20:06

was a thick with smoke all

20:08

the way to the high ceilings.

20:11

The cigar factory bus thing with activity,

20:14

Dolceadores were sitting at their

20:16

workstations, bent over Tabakolives,

20:18

smoking cigars as they rolled new

20:21

ones. Oh, oh,

20:23

my baby longs kicking up, just thinking

20:25

about it. And the

20:27

air was heavy with a smoke.

20:29

I walked to the front of the

20:31

room. Fernando, how's your wife feeling

20:34

today? Well, though she likes to know what

20:36

will become a vena corinna, You

20:38

will have to tell her once we read the

20:40

next chapter today. I

20:45

took my seat at the front of

20:47

the room, up on my riveruna. This

20:49

is a smallest stage where I read

20:51

to the workers. Alright, Camparieros.

20:54

Let's get a start. Everyone tapped

20:57

their Savitas with great

20:59

enthusiasm. Oh, wait wait wait, isn't that what they do with

21:01

their knives when they're mad? No. No. No. Dapping is

21:03

cold. It's when the rabbit

21:04

has dropped to the ground that you're in trouble.

21:06

And you know that sound when you hear it.

21:08

Oh, okay. Got it. So I grab

21:10

a copy of the Tampa Morning preview. Oh,

21:12

wait. Wait. What you're gonna read Anna Korrenna? The

21:14

mornings

21:14

are for newspapers, the afternoons

21:17

for novels. Yeah. Well, that's when I prefer my

21:19

novels too. Isn't that one I always say,

21:21

Linda?

21:21

I've never heard you say that, but

21:23

you do love scrolling through cat memes on

21:25

your phone in

21:26

the morning. Anyway, continue,

21:30

Carlos. I scanned the paper. The reading committee

21:32

asked me to begin with baseball. There's a

21:33

local team named after our industry.

21:36

Item number one. Baseball.

21:39

Yesterday, the Tampa smokers dominated

21:41

the field and in their game with a six

21:43

run victory over their

21:45

rivals. But then,

21:47

suddenly,

21:48

the

21:50

unmistakable sound of a charveta hitting

21:54

the floor Well, that's a bad one. That

21:56

did sound aggressive. I looked up.

21:58

Who would

21:58

be angry at just a few lines

21:59

about sports? And then I saw

22:02

a familiar face glaring

22:04

at me. It

22:05

was loud. What's he doing

22:07

here? I wonder the same thing. He

22:09

rolls off from his seat and approached my dragon

22:11

with a scar.

22:13

Welcome back,

22:15

Raul. Save the pleasantries,

22:18

Carlos. I

22:18

see you've been busy while I've been

22:21

honeymooning with though Nicholas'

22:23

daughter caramela. Their workers

22:25

shifted uncomfortably in their seats.

22:27

They consents the tension between

22:29

us. Denis Colas is

22:30

the owner of the factory. He

22:33

runs his business with an iron fist.

22:36

Felicidais, what an honor to

22:38

be part of the Nicolas family. I

22:41

hope you had time to do edits on your

22:43

novel while you relaxed. Yes.

22:45

I did. The ending is

22:48

much tighter. And now that I am part

22:50

of the Patrond's family, I

22:52

demand to be the new Lector. The

22:54

room broke out in angry murmurs.

22:56

Sophia, the president of the committee,

22:58

stool up. I

22:59

don't care who your

23:02

father-in-law is Raul. Our

23:04

Lecture is Carlos. We

23:05

chose him. We pay him out of

23:07

our own pocket. And I think I speak for

23:09

all of us when I say I still

23:11

don't understand why the villain in your book hated

23:13

carnival

23:13

so much. It came out of

23:16

nowhere. Everyone

23:20

on the factory floor was upset, but

23:22

I held on my hands to quiet them.

23:25

Everyone, please. It's every worker's right

23:27

to be considered for the role. If

23:29

Raul wants his job back then we must

23:32

have. A read off. Carlos

23:35

is right. It's in

23:36

a boy loss.

23:38

The Cometi president went to a pile of

23:40

reading materials stacked in the corner and

23:42

pulled out a large leather bound book.

23:44

Our

23:45

texts for the read off

23:47

will be.

23:48

the cia in el pais the last

23:51

matter of yes

23:53

Alice, in

23:53

Wonderland by

23:54

Lewis Carol. You know,

23:57

I've always identified with Alice and how

23:59

confusing things

23:59

can be. Anyway, great

24:02

book. Yes. It's a lovely

24:03

children's book. The byline

24:05

rule state

24:05

we must hold the book together and

24:07

take turns reading side by side.

24:10

I licked my

24:10

page turning finger and then on

24:12

the president's

24:13

signal, we began.

24:15

Carlos, Raul,

24:18

Begin. Alice asked

24:21

the treasure cat who was sitting in a

24:23

tree, oh, what road do I

24:25

take? I don't

24:25

know. Alice answered. Then

24:28

said the cat.

24:29

It really doesn't matter.

24:31

Does it? We went back and forth each

24:33

of us trying to prove our dominance who

24:35

could bring the story to life? We traded off par

24:37

golf by paragraph. Thanks sentence by

24:39

sentence. Why you're surrounded like a writing

24:41

desk? Whoa. With their heads?

24:44

Then word by word. Well,

24:46

thought Alice told her

24:48

after that.

24:49

Oh, that's this. Oh,

24:51

to some leader, fuck with our

24:54

floor open.

24:56

And out

24:58

came, Tom Nicolas,

25:00

our pat drone, the

25:02

owner of the factory. What is

25:04

this

25:04

nonsense? Why is no

25:07

one working? Your nephew wants

25:09

to be like So

25:11

we had to have a read off. You

25:13

see, as far enough.

25:15

This is not a reading factory. It

25:17

is a cigar factory. These

25:19

foolishness Caesar or Raul, you are

25:22

the new lecturer.

25:23

My heart sunk like

25:25

a stone. That

25:27

I was a

25:28

And then, each

25:31

of it hit the ground, and

25:33

I saw Sophia

25:35

standing on her work table.

25:37

Oh, Lecture. My Lecture. And then

25:39

another shall either.

25:40

And another. My

25:42

fellow cigar makers begun

25:44

climbing on the tables. Oh, laptop.

25:46

My laptop. Oh, laptop.

25:48

My laptop. Oh,

25:49

laptop. My laptop. I

25:53

realize refusing to accept

25:55

this injustice. It's like the dead

25:57

power society with with a young Ethan Hawk.

26:00

No. You are mistaken. It's a reference

26:03

to a poem by what Whitman or Captain

26:05

Mike Captain. I read it to them a

26:07

week before. Does anyone stand on a desk

26:09

in the poem? No. I'm think

26:11

sofia, I ain't promised that. Chris, let's

26:12

just let him continue. The president

26:14

of the

26:15

reading committee stood bravely before

26:18

Don Nicolas. The

26:19

paid for and chosen

26:21

by us. The Whoikas, and

26:23

we

26:23

choose Carlos. This is my

26:26

factory. And

26:26

in your factory, three Carlos is

26:29

Lector, or you can roll these

26:32

cigars yourself.

26:32

That'll

26:36

go fine. I don't care.

26:39

Carlos, go back to your tree view now

26:41

and Raul? Go

26:42

fix that to turn in your novel.

26:45

Okay? It's very

26:47

flabby. Okay. Goodbye.

26:49

I took my

26:50

place at the three UNA and straighten

26:53

out my newspaper. I

26:55

continue to read the story of the unlikely

26:57

victim of the Tampa Smokers

26:59

Baseball team. And my

27:01

companeros went back to Rolling Larcigars.

27:03

And that afternoon, I finished reading

27:06

Anna Karalinin. And it was the first

27:08

time I got a standing away

27:10

show.

27:17

Well, they they really were there

27:19

for you. Yes. You know,

27:22

when I became a Lector, I

27:24

was a little proud focused on my performances.

27:27

By that

27:28

day, I was reminded how

27:31

every month

27:32

and woman in that

27:35

factory is important to

27:36

me. It sounds like you have wonderful

27:39

coworkers. I feel the same way

27:41

about Linda. Wow,

27:41

Chris. That's

27:44

so nice for you to say. Thank you. Oh, I

27:45

was talking about Linda, the the

27:48

barista downstairs, but Definitely you

27:50

too. You're my favorite favorite.

27:51

Okay, Chris.

27:53

Thanks. So Carlos, do you

27:55

plan to

27:56

be a lecturer forever? Have you have you found

27:59

a greatness your great ant

27:59

predicted. I do love being elected, but

28:02

after being surrounded by these books and

28:04

ideas, what I really yearn to

28:07

do, Is to be

28:07

a teacher? A teacher? Yes.

28:10

I've realized

28:10

that teaching is my true

28:13

calling. Sharing

28:13

literature, a love of reading,

28:16

and community, That brings me true

28:18

joy and purpose. And I don't

28:20

know if it will make me great,

28:22

but I don't know

28:23

that I need to be. Now I

28:25

see that purpose not greatness.

28:27

Was they

28:27

envision my vehicle Siobhanha for

28:30

me?

28:30

Yes. I mean, you share knowledge with your

28:32

fellow workers every day? You'd be you'd be

28:34

great in a classroom. Were you a

28:36

big

28:36

dreamer in college, Chris? Oh, I can

28:38

answer that. Yes. He has a very

28:41

vivid imagination don't ask him about the

28:43

inner lives of dairy products. Regular

28:45

don't

28:45

kill healthy. So Linda, does

28:47

that make you his son to answer? Bringing

28:49

your path wrong back to reality?

28:52

She really is. I remember

28:54

that from men of La Mancha.

28:56

Tell me,

28:56

Chris, if you were Don Quixote, what

28:59

win meals were you fighting at

29:01

university? Oh, I don't I'm

29:03

not sure I wanna go into it. And milk

29:05

was

29:05

a one man play about a carton

29:07

of milk.

29:08

Chris? There's

29:10

nothing wrong with expressing

29:11

yourself in unique ways and

29:13

not being quite understood.

29:15

You know,

29:15

for some of whimail is just a

29:17

whimail. But for others, like you are me,

29:19

a windmill, or a guarding of

29:21

milk is the door that

29:23

leaves you to truth,

29:26

purpose.

29:26

this Not

29:27

greatness, Grisobald. It's the

29:29

best

29:30

review I've ever gotten. Thanks

29:33

Carlos.

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30:45

Carlos,

30:47

you've

30:49

been teaching us all about

30:51

being a factory lecturer in nineteen twenty

30:53

5. And now, It's time for me to teach

30:56

you something. So are you

30:58

ready to learn what happened to your

31:00

job? Absolutely. We must always be

31:02

both learning and teaching. So

31:04

we'll put So

31:06

factory lecturers are now. I know me

31:08

to guess.

31:09

They are everywhere across

31:12

all industries in

31:14

factories not just for cigars, but for paint,

31:16

steel, and much more.

31:18

Well,

31:18

not quite. In

31:21

nineteen thirty one, the role of

31:23

the factory lecturer in Tampa was banned.

31:25

The job is

31:26

gone. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. It

31:28

was growing tension between factory owners

31:30

and the employees, the owners begin to feel

31:33

threatened by theuctories work. Why should

31:35

a factory owner fear the work

31:37

of auctor? We empower workers

31:39

with education, motivating

31:41

them to want better conditions.

31:43

As José Martí said, The only way

31:45

to be totally free is through

31:48

education. Right. So that's kind of part

31:50

of the problem. Not all

31:52

owners want that.

31:53

My goodness. This is so

31:56

terribly sad. I'd only plan

31:58

to be a Lector a few more years before

31:59

I return to school,

32:01

but to think of the role as

32:04

completely gone. This is

32:05

a terrible loss. Well, for what it's

32:07

worth, there are still a few factory

32:10

lecturers left in Cuba. There

32:12

are? Yes. They still read to workers in

32:14

Cuban Lector, and lecturers are

32:16

considered an important part of Cuban

32:18

traditions. It's just they don't play as

32:20

big a role in educating the workers as

32:22

they use too. And there aren't

32:24

many left. But if there are so

32:26

few like Torres, how will workers be able to

32:28

access stories, to inspiring, educate

32:30

Oh, there are even more ways to hear stories now than

32:32

ever before. There

32:33

are? Sure. There's movies. Yes.

32:37

I'm familiar. Not very entertaining. If

32:39

you ask me, no one speaks. Oh,

32:41

they will. There's also

32:43

TV, which is like

32:45

movies in your house. I don't have nearly enough

32:47

space for such a larger screen. And

32:49

podcast, which is like TV

32:50

for your ears. You mean

32:53

radio. Oh, yeah. It's basically

32:55

that. I understand. Well, as another

32:57

wise man said, the only

32:59

constant is changed. Aha, more

33:02

Cervantes. Heraculitis, ancient Greek

33:04

philosopher. Well, before we wrap

33:06

up,

33:06

I just have to ask, how do you

33:08

make your voice so intoxicating? By

33:11

inhabiting the words of the great writers,

33:13

of course, No. No. But

33:15

there's also something else you're doing, and I'd

33:17

love to get in on that. Could you show

33:19

me? Yes. You mean the usage of

33:21

your instrument. Yes. My

33:23

instrument. Linda, you should do this too.

33:25

Oh, sure.

33:25

Sounds fun. Yes, please.

33:27

I join Sanyurita.

33:30

Well, first, you lift your

33:32

chest and throw back your shoulders.

33:34

Like this? They can't go any

33:36

broader, like like this? I I think

33:38

this is as broad as they

33:40

get. That's unfortunate. Okay.

33:43

Next, the mind. We find

33:45

our real voice

33:47

by first speaking something we believe

33:49

with deep conviction. Anything?

33:51

Yes. Anything. Linda, Chris, take

33:54

turns. Okay. Berg

33:56

should sing quieter in the mornings.

33:59

All sheets should be moisture wicking.

34:01

It's okay to cry at

34:03

parades. It should

34:03

be illegal to take your shoes off on an airplane. Yes,

34:05

sir. Very good. I can tell

34:07

that these are things you believe most

34:10

deeply. Now

34:12

for the physical mouth exercises. To

34:14

keep the voice limber, repeat after me.

34:22

A

34:25

very good linda.

34:28

I can get it. Right

34:31

with the corollary. Of course. Only you don't want like

34:33

a real. I got it. Close enough. Carlos, it's

34:36

time

34:36

for a final segment. Already? Yes.

34:40

At the end, I asked my guess

34:42

five final questions. Alright? First, what is

34:45

the biggest misconception about your

34:48

job? That it's the

34:49

quiet work of a

34:52

librarian. Not at all. There's always

34:54

lively discussion. I mean, so fair

34:56

didn't you think

34:58

Anna Karina should be with Rolvsky. We are beautiful weeks.

35:00

Can you imagine? That's totally

35:02

outrageous. Okay. What would you

35:04

tell a novice factory lecturer?

35:06

Bring a

35:08

pillow. There's a lot of sitting like a

35:10

lot. I can see that. Right? Next, what

35:12

are the perks of your job? Well, you

35:14

build very strong lungs, which comes in handy

35:16

with all these cigars What traits make

35:19

for a good factory vector?

35:21

Imagination, flair for the dramatic

35:23

and a strong lungs, is

35:26

very unhealthy. My earlops

35:28

have petrified. Oh, no. And

35:30

finally,

35:31

if someone were to write you

35:33

a letter of recommendation, What

35:35

might they say about you? Well, I

35:37

will hope they say something

35:39

like Carlos scares deeply about

35:41

the words he reads. To

35:43

him, every mind is dreaming

35:45

with potential and creativity.

35:47

Except ours,

35:49

he's a hack. Carlos,

35:50

thank you so much for joining us. You guys, my pleasure.

35:53

I take a deep bow

35:55

and bid you,

35:57

Asankyo. As Carlos made his

36:00

way back to nineteen

36:00

twenty five, I realized he hadn't

36:02

just taught me about factory Lector,

36:07

He also showed me that art can serve all

36:09

sorts of purposes. They can educate, they

36:11

can entertain, and they can teach us

36:13

about ourselves and what we

36:15

love. is why decided that I'm going to

36:18

finally stage the sequel to my college

36:20

show that I've been writing for years.

36:22

It's called Carton of

36:24

Tier two. Percent.

36:26

Wait. I'm sorry.

36:27

That's how you pronounce the

36:30

title. Carton of tears

36:32

two colon

36:34

pause percent. her said

36:35

Yes. The two is because it's a sequel to the first

36:37

Garden of Deers. Okay. But what about

36:39

the percent part? Oh, it's a milk bun,

36:41

you know, like two

36:43

percent. Carton of tears, two percent.

36:46

Oh, wait. No. Maybe it's more light. No.

36:48

Current of tears, two percent. With the pause,

36:50

hi it doesn't. Next.

36:52

See if it works? Yes.

36:54

Okay. You know what? Chris, that sounds really

36:56

good. Really, really

36:58

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