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Doctor Victor Frankenstein. Remember
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him? He's the fictional scientist who
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was obsessed with creating life out
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of the dead. He stole corpses
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for his experiments, pieced together a
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lonely monster in the pursuit of scientific progress,
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and then he went star craving that.
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But what if I told you that Duck Frankenstein's
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body snatching isn't just a work
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of fiction? Sorry.
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Linda, I'm I'm having a little crisis
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of conscience
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here.
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What do you mean? Well, I I
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don't think our show should be normalizing this
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kind of thing, you know. Once we make
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body snatchers sympathetic, then what? It's
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okay to sell human organs on the black market.
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What kind of show are we? It's a slippery
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slope. I told you, Chris, this week's episode
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is a little dark, but our guest will
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explain the higher purpose of
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her profession.
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I've never Wondery judge our guests, but this
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time, I'm not so sure. Besides,
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you know, I get a bit queasy when we talk
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about the grim stuff.
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Oh, I know. I almost had
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to wheel you out of the studio after our recording
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with the barber surgeon. But our guest today
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doesn't murder
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anyone. She just digs up dead
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bodies. Don't get me wrong. I
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only find it morally repugnant,
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so Instead of fainting, I'll probably
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just make a scornful face like this.
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Oh my gosh. I'm so glad our listeners won't be able
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to see that. It's little offensive.
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You should be making face too, Linda. It's a
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gruesome job. Man,
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everybody's gotta make a living.
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A living stealing, the not living. Chris,
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it took a lot to get our guests to come on the
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show today. She only said yes because I promised
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her a platter of sandwiches.
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Oh, I was wondering where those came from. The
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roast beef was delicious. Maybe
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I'll try the CapReza for ketchup before
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we get started. No more sandwiches,
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Chris. Fine. Last
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thing I'll say is that there's no way this
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whole thing is legal. Did you think of
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that?
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Keep it open mind. You might be surprised what
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you learned. Alright. But you shouldn't be
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surprised when she turns out to be a criminal mastermind.
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Yeah. That's that's all I'm
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saying, Linda.
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I accept the risk.
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Okay. Can't say it in warn you. Uh-huh.
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Stealing corpses sounds crazy to our
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modern ears and deeply unethical,
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but in eighteen twenty six Birmingham,
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England unearthing the dead was serious
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business. They were called Resurrectionist.
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And they sold dead corpses on the black
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market during the time of the enlightenment. So
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was doctor Frankenstein that far from reality?
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What was the saying goes? Truth is sometimes
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stranger than fiction. Today,
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we'll find out when we meet Jazz,
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the best in the corp stealing business.
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Hello, and welcome to this
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job is history. Sitting across
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from me is Jez. No last name
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given from Birmingham eighteen
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twenty
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six. It's a pleasure to have you on the show
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today. Pleasure to be here. And
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thank you kindly miss Linda for the lovely
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tea. The sandwiches were
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delicious. Oh, you're welcome. Glad
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they got you here. By the way, I
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love the red hair. It's really
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striking. Thanks, love. Now
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most people were on from, don't care
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for changes. Think we're untrustworthy.
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Imagine that.
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Yeah. Imagine that, Linda.
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So Jez, you're
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a resurrectionist Well,
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for part of the year year, I sell
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dead bodies that I dig up from public
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cemeteries. You think it's a bit
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ghoulish, aren't you? Sorry.
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Is
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it that obvious? Yeah.
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It was a look on your face when I
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sat down. The jodgy eyes,
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the sneer on the lips. A
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dead giveaway. No pun
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intended. Chris, I asked
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you not to make a
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face. It was not purpose. I can't
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hide my inner feelings. It's a it's a
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medical thing. Okay,
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Jizz. So how did this job
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come about? It's hard to imagine there's
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a market for dead bodies.
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Hi, you mean who's buying the corpses?
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Well, that's easy. It's a medical
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schools. Oh,
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okay. Yeah. Yeah. You're getting it now.
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They need cadavers for their training
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and research. So their hire is specialists
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like me to procure them.
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They don't ask questions, I don't give answers.
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And then exchange my team and
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I receive a nice
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compensation. Who did you think
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was buying dead bodies? Mad
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scientists, maybe. Never
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mind. So how did you end up
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in this line of work
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then? It's it's very specific. Well,
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I didn't dream of doing it as a little
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girl. I just sort of
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fell into
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it. Fell into it? Were there no
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other choices for you? Well,
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I doubt me literally fell into
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it. I it's not like I fell into a
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grave and just said, you
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know, a while I'm here.
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Okay. I
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was using it as a metaphor.
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Understood. Alright. Oh,
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you know what? There won a lot of options
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for people in my station. My
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path, so to speak, started in the
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female orphan asylum in Lambert.
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I was only eight years old at the time.
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They were training me to be a domestic,
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and I wasn't keen on the idea
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of serving a rich. I hated
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it. Until I met Aida hawkins
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at his. Oh, was she one of your teachers
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at the orphanage? In a way,
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Aida was orphan just like me.
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Got a big sister, really. Taught
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me to be self sufficient inside and
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out of the orphanage. I taught the older trick
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some more
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trade.
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She taught you how to snatch bodies at
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eight years old.
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No. We weren't sheltering Chris.
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And yeah. She taught me the basics of
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street survival. Picking locks
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and pockets, planning grifts,
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and wear to hide things when things
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get hot. But most importantly,
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she taught me her code. Oh,
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like a cipher. No. No. Not a
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cipher exactly a code to
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live by. Hers was
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you only take what you need from
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the people who don't need
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it, and you always help when you can.
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Ugh. That almost seems admirable
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for a street thief. Do
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you still work with
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Ada? Are
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you just no longer with us?
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Let me guess. Early retirement, one
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last job, and then she was out.
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She stayed, Chris.
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I'm so sorry. I had no idea.
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Yeah. Well, she died from a mysterious disease.
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Oh, that must have been devastating.
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It was. Still makes me a bit
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sad at times. But that was a long
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time ago. Right before I aged
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out of the orphanage at fourteen. Wow.
7:55
You were still just a kid.
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How did you get by at such a young
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age? Well, Solomite Robinhood.
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Yeah. Still it from the rich given to the poor,
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but in this
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case, the poor was me.
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Get it.
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Gosh. III do get it. It's
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jazz. Thank you. So what are you
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stealing? Oh, you know, this and
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that news change, rare
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spats, ladies' purses, a
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hat with a feather in
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it. Like those. Really?
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That's some surprise, but it sounds like mostly
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valuable stuff. If
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it's the hair, sure. Speaking
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of which You say your watch is valuable?
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Yes. It's a KCOCA fifty
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3W1.
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Chris, isn't that the calculator watch you wanted,
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Dave and Buster's?
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It's a family heirloom, Linda.
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Wait, where
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is it? Jez.
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How the hell did you do that?
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I
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got the right boy.
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Trick of the trade. I know that one
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from Finch. He's one of the gas
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pipe boys. He gave me my first
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job after I lost
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Ader, decent bloke. Let the
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record show. I'm now tightening the watch
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band to a degree. I didn't
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think was
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possible. Okay. Now,
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back to you and the gas pipe
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boys. Were they the ones who got you
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into body snatching? No. That was
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doctor Cox. He caught me by
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the church trying to pinch his
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pocket watch, and I'd never get
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caught. I managed to charm
9:19
him before he called the bottles.
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The bottles? Ram in
9:23
slang, puddle in stopper, copper.
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The police, Chris. So
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the doctor and I got to talk him
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He said I should go into Resurrectionist work.
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Said the money was good, and then I could
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help science while I'm doing it.
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There's no medical college was really
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desperate for
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cadavers. What
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did you think of the offer? I had
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my doubts at first. I've
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got I thought it's harder
9:47
and harder to make a living. It's a low
9:49
level fifth these days. Honestly,
9:52
were times I couldn't even afford a night at the
9:54
boarding house. So the idea got
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my interest. But what
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about Aida's code? Isn't it
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wrong to body snatch?
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I grappled with that I
10:04
did. I won't lie. But if
10:06
they're doing research with these ear
10:08
cadavers, that's helping people.
10:11
And maybe if doctors had
10:13
a cure to treat
10:13
either, she'd be alive tonight.
10:16
And lots of other people could have been
10:18
safe too.
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I bet she would have liked that.
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Yeah. I can just hear
10:24
an hour up and everything saying, boy, that's
10:26
a good penny You done me right.
10:28
You cheeky pearl. That's
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what she'd say. I don't want. She's
10:33
a cheeky booga. So
10:35
I took the idea back to the gas Parnell,
10:38
boys. And we've been increasingly a set of
10:39
scenes. I
10:40
see that, but wasn't the doctor
10:42
asking you to break the law?
10:44
Chris body snatching isn't
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properly illegal. Really?
10:49
It's true, Chris. Back in
10:51
nineteenth century, England, and even today
10:53
in the US, no one can
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legally own a dead body. It's
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not considered property, so it's
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not technically stealing.
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Actually, it's a smart that
11:03
one. He better hang on to
11:05
her. But, yeah, it's
11:07
still frowned upon especially with
11:09
the church. Sure. The medical schools are
11:11
all allowed to use the bodies of
11:13
executed criminals, but we don't have enough of
11:15
those to go around. It's a
11:17
simple case of demand and
11:19
supply. They need cadavers
11:21
for dissections and voice
11:23
deploy them. Well, so
11:24
why are they sneaking around and body
11:26
smurging? Okay. It's still
11:28
technically a misdemeanor, so those
11:30
jail time, if you caught.
11:32
Myster thoroughly's turn blind
11:34
eye. Elates for their doctors
11:36
Not so much for the likes of me. I
11:38
don't know if you've done
11:39
time, Chris, but I imagine you have
11:41
by the looks of you. I
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I have luck.
11:43
Promise the gas pipe boys, I never let
11:45
that happen on my watch, and I
11:47
never break a promise.
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Hey, jazz. Why are they called
11:51
the gas pipe boys? They're called
11:52
gas pipe boys on a can of
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their tight trousers. Very,
11:57
very particular about their fashion.
11:59
Their trousers It's like a second
12:01
skin really. You can't even get a
12:03
little bit of fabric in your
12:04
hands, and it's just that tight.
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I don't get it. God, I get
12:09
it. I went through a bit of
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a skinny jean phase myself.
12:13
So Jez, do you and the
12:15
boys just go out there with a shovel
12:17
and dig up the first fresh grave, you
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see? Shit. I wish it were
12:21
that easy. It's quite an operation.
12:23
First, you gotta know when a new
12:25
corpse is arriving at the cemetery. Thankfully,
12:28
I'm acquainted with miss
12:30
Margaret. She's the undertaker's
12:31
housekeeper, a slipper, a few
12:34
shillings, and she
12:34
tells me the inventory. I
12:37
see. You've got someone on the inside.
12:39
It's right there you go catching
12:41
on, Chris. After the
12:43
tip-off, it's all about the
12:45
Parnell. And that's one of the three
12:47
things I do better than anyone.
12:49
Oh,
12:49
I'm intrigued. What else? Well,
12:52
I'm good under pressure. If the
12:54
job goes bad, I can get
12:56
it back on track and I don't break a
12:58
sweat. And the
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third. Acting. If you
13:02
wanna get specific, cry
13:04
acting. Any job goes
13:06
better and safer if there's a
13:08
lady
13:08
present, you can turn
13:09
on the waterworks. Okay. Planning,
13:12
nerves, flood of tears, been
13:14
what? We wait till nightfall and
13:16
bring a wagon to the cemetery. We're
13:19
dealing with freshly dinged
13:20
graves, so it's fairly easy to
13:22
get to pasking.
13:23
Oh, wow. This just got
13:26
very real. Now we usually put a big,
13:28
heavy blanket over the coffin
13:30
while we work to keep things
13:32
quiet.
13:33
Then we use a pair of hooks to break
13:35
into part of the coffin and ball
13:37
the body out with a rope tied
13:39
around the neck. Oh, that's horrifying. 9
13:43
mean, fascinating. Now,
13:46
as you might expect, grievance
13:48
families don't want the loved ones
13:49
pinched. And I completely understand
13:52
that. So the boys and I make
13:54
sure we cover up the grave
13:56
nicely. Very
13:59
respectful. I suppose
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that's sweet of
14:02
you, but is it worth it? And what's the
14:04
money like on a per corpse basis?
14:06
Not bad. Even for a ratty cadaver,
14:09
you'll get ten quid, but a
14:11
good one say an adult male
14:12
fresher, you're pulling twenty five
14:15
pounds easy. Linda, how
14:16
much is that in today's money? That's
14:18
wow. That's like a thousand bucks
14:21
today. Could
14:21
even be more than that. I
14:24
can't believe I'm about to ask this, but
14:26
what adds value to
14:28
a corpse? How old and you'd
14:31
expect? If they'd have died from a
14:33
disease, that's always
14:35
good. The doctors love to
14:37
study
14:37
that, and anyone that looks Shall
14:40
we say unusual? I
14:42
reckon I'd get a bit of a
14:44
bonus for you, Chris. Oh, because
14:46
I'm an adult male.
14:48
Yeah. Shula. Yeah. That's that's yeah.
14:52
Well, thank you. But but to be
14:54
clear, I am not for sale.
14:57
So I imagine you'd be racing against the clock
14:59
to get the body because of the Decomposing.
15:03
Yeah. It's five days before the first stages
15:05
of organ decomposition around
15:07
twenty eight days, you'll have liquefaction and that
15:09
renders most of the tissue useless from a
15:11
medical
15:11
perspective. Oh, that And
15:14
how did you know that? And second
15:16
question, what did you do before you were a
15:18
podcast
15:18
producer?
15:19
I produced results. For my clients,
15:22
Chris. Okay. Yeah.
15:24
She's been around alright. You
15:26
could do the lecture circuit, ma'am.
15:29
Yeah. No. She's right. That's
15:31
why we do our work in the
15:33
winter. The colder the
15:34
crops, the quicker the grab. Unless the guy
15:37
is all wrong, which has
15:39
certainly happened. Oh,
15:39
well, what goes wrong? Well, a
15:42
less job we did just about everything.
15:44
I thought it was the end of me in the gas
15:46
part boys. And it's basically my
15:48
job to protect those lovable
15:50
idiots. Like a team.
15:52
Like a family. And
15:54
this was a nail boiler. We had
15:56
no time to
15:57
lose. Why are you
16:00
smiling when you say time? Wait.
16:02
I watched how did you
16:05
I strapped it on so tight, I couldn't even
16:07
feel my hand. Oh,
16:09
I couldn't feel my
16:11
hand. Okay. I'd see what I did.
16:13
Okay. Please give it back. What do you give me an
16:15
exchange? Really? Another
16:17
bribe? Okay. I I
16:19
learned it. Can you bring in one of the show t
16:21
shirts? Jez? I am putting this
16:23
watch somewhere. You cannot reach it.
16:25
You are not getting it
16:26
again. Oh, I will.
16:30
I definitely will. I'll even get that
16:32
penny yours before we're done. Challenge
16:34
accepted. Here's your shirt.
16:36
Oh, a chametes. Was
16:39
Chris' I saw
16:40
it. Imagine
16:43
it. Very scary.
16:45
What's that intentionally? I don't
16:47
know if I could even really wear this
16:49
around cow. It
16:52
might frighten people. Hey,
16:54
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16:56
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Welcome back
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to this job is history.
19:13
We're here with Jez, a
19:15
resurrectionist from eighteen twenty six
19:17
England. I'd like to note that during the
19:19
break, Jez and Linda talked a
19:21
lot about dead bodies. It
19:23
was very vivid.
19:26
Aside from the topic of decomposition,
19:28
I'm genuinely excited to
19:30
hear about this cemetery
19:31
heist. Jess, are you ready? Sure
19:34
am. Alright. Just a few weeks
19:36
ago, I gave a couple of shillings to
19:39
miss Morgan. I told you about her
19:40
earlier. Remember? The undertaker's
19:43
housekeeper. Alright. You're
19:44
inside man. Yeah.
19:47
Well, that week her tip was
19:49
top notch. If what she said was true,
19:51
the boys and I wouldn't have to walk the rest
19:53
of the season.
19:56
You're in luck, miss. Well to
19:59
do. Just got back from
20:01
India. Apparently, he was ill
20:03
Humid for a few days, started
20:05
vomiting violently then? Well, he
20:08
passed on. Oh, that's
20:10
Boston. I mean, I'm so
20:12
sorry for their nos. Here
20:14
you are, miss Morgan. Always
20:17
a
20:17
pleasure, happy, grave
20:20
digging dairy. It's
20:21
never nice to hear someone passed.
20:24
But an adult male with a mystery
20:26
illness, that's not winning the kids
20:28
have a lottery ride
20:29
There. It's like they say, you can't win if
20:32
you don't
20:32
play. Right. So there we were. It
20:35
was me, Pink and
20:37
Hammer. Who's hammer? He's the muscle.
20:39
He's strong, but sweet as
20:41
a lamb, not too bright upstairs.
20:45
Anyway, we were in our usual
20:47
tavern, the queen's pickled egg. It's
20:49
dark and cozy, and there
20:51
almost no fights at all on
20:53
a Tuesday. Anyhow,
20:55
Joseph, the proprietor served
20:57
us our drinks and gave us that
20:59
look. You know, the same one you did,
21:01
Chris, when we started the interview. With
21:03
your nose all scrunched up in your
21:04
eyes, got really busy. Yeah. About
21:07
the look. III
21:07
feel really bad about that. Jez,
21:10
I'm so sorry. It's
21:12
alright, Chris. Happens all
21:14
the time. So I turned
21:16
to the boys and pulled out my
21:18
plan. Every minute Every
21:20
move was sketched out to perfection
21:22
in my journal. We had one
21:24
shot to pull this
21:25
off, and I wasn't gonna
21:27
waste Alright, boys. This bloke
21:29
is a real gentleman and his family's
21:31
got money, so the grave is gonna
21:33
have a
21:34
watcher. Probably guard dogs too. Why does
21:36
there always
21:37
have to be dogs, depraved
21:39
mongrels they are? All animals
21:42
are gods creatures pinch. I I
21:44
know if you're half white. It's not the
21:46
dogs you need to worry about. It's the
21:48
ducks and geese. And trust me they'll be
21:49
there. Right. Right. Right.
21:52
Right. Okay. Ducks
21:54
and geese. You
21:56
know I duck, geese,
21:59
police. Antibodies get
22:01
it. Oh, yeah.
22:04
Rocky. We do serious time if
22:06
the corporal's called us clinching at
22:08
reach Chap. There was no room for
22:10
error, which is sometimes a challenge
22:12
with the gas park boys, a
22:14
lovely bunch, but not very
22:16
detail oriented. That's
22:18
on me. Here we
22:20
go. Lads, step one,
22:23
peach. You're gonna nick the church grounds
22:25
keepers keys and open the gate.
22:27
Nick the keys. Get the gate.
22:29
Right. Then we've got a deal with the
22:31
WATCHMAN. Your distractions don't use an
22:33
efficient wire and revit
22:34
skin. Oh, very clever. I can do
22:37
that. Right, hammer. You'll be digging and
22:39
lifting a body out. Got
22:40
it. But, jess, What about the
22:43
koppos? Leave them to me. We'll set off at
22:45
twelve bells and eat it to church
22:47
gate. I'll bring the wagon around. Don't
22:49
be late. So
22:53
there we were in the dark of night,
22:55
right outside the gate at a key hill
22:57
cemetery. It was one of the coldest
22:59
nights of the year. Good
23:01
for the corps, bad for us. We'll move
23:04
quickly. We'd be joining aboard top six
23:06
feet onto. Myanmar's
23:08
stood in the shadows at the church.
23:11
While pinch went Nick the keys. We waited for
23:13
the single hours. We
23:16
finally appeared triumphant. Wait
23:19
with the damn keys long. They was Church
23:20
bells. Take
23:22
it down.
23:23
You're big old. Alright. Sorry,
23:27
Cheers. Sorry. Sorry,
23:28
Joseph. Good work pinch.
23:31
Now, get to that dog.
23:33
It's over there. Hannah, the
23:35
brain. Let's go. Emma, Emma.
23:38
Oh, sorry, Rose. I was reading
23:40
this gravestone of this lovely young lady.
23:42
Poor girl kicked it in
23:44
9. Can you imagine? Yeah. That's real sad.
23:46
That's real sad, Emma. But we've got a
23:48
grave to dig. Think of a family. You
23:50
can't go to beer. Says every time
23:52
you're seeing another grave. Ham is a
23:54
ten to hardy bridesy, but he said
23:56
the absent mine
23:57
did. I think dafted. Yes, ma'am.
23:59
But tonight everyone had to be on their
24:01
game. Like a
24:04
tail beach was worried, but there
24:06
was no time for now. Often in distance, we can see the
24:08
night watch and approaching. We
24:10
all held our breath and froze
24:13
still. A blast stink
24:15
dog could be the end of us.
24:17
Alright. Who's that? Who's
24:19
the dog winch? Marie.
24:25
Each tore the Parnell skin almost
24:27
clear across the cemetery and it
24:29
worked. The dog broke loose from
24:31
the WATCHMAN and ran off. The
24:36
grave was unguarding now and the
24:38
boys got right to work with their
24:40
shovels. I held a dim lantern
24:42
for them. goodness the gram was
24:44
soft and easy to pull
24:46
up. Oh,
24:49
bugger it. Oh, no.
24:51
You gotta be kidding me. No.
24:53
As far
24:54
as as far as Jack king.
24:56
What what's
24:56
going on? It sounds serious, Jess.
24:59
It was
24:59
a moat safe. I've been bloody bloody
25:02
moat type. Oh, what what's
25:04
that? A disaster is what
25:06
it was. A mortise is
25:08
a sturdy iron cage.
25:10
It's locked over the coffin to
25:12
stop people like
25:12
us. They're a nightmare to
25:15
get through. The kind of surprise I like
25:17
to know about Nedfans.
25:19
Hammer are told you
25:22
what them bury them last night.
25:24
I did. I've seen it. I've seen
25:26
it. Really? Then how did
25:28
you miss this? Did you fall
25:31
asleep
25:31
again? Okay.
25:31
So You just didn't
25:32
you. You just felt bloody well
25:33
asleep. I've been up all night,
25:36
nurse and my pet canary. I'm
25:38
Tori Jones. I'm really sorry. You're too
25:40
tender all to them. I get
25:42
your tools and stop picking that
25:44
lock
25:44
quietly. Yeah. Okay.
25:46
Right. Right. Oh,
25:48
no. My lucky grave trousers split. Oh,
25:51
I don't want to see
25:53
the heart. And this is when
25:55
it all went to Ellen and Anne Best.
25:58
Oh, the Santa footsteps just behind
26:01
us. And there he was. Lampin
26:04
in one
26:04
hand, baton in the other. You
26:07
didn't see us yet, but our
26:09
heads wet and fast.
26:11
We just need a few more minutes
26:14
almost done. Okay. Keep going.
26:16
I'll buy a sec time. I
26:18
started walking towards a copper and
26:20
arranged myself. I came dressed
26:22
for We're in a black short and morning
26:25
dress high snag on the
26:27
taylor. Just my side. This is when
26:29
my performance skills come
26:31
in Andy.
26:32
Constable. Oh, constable.
26:35
Ma'am, what are you doing here in the middle of the night?
26:37
It's a bit odd, isn't it? No. You've no
26:39
business judging a grieving widow. Oh.
26:43
Course, of course, my my apologies.
26:45
Now it's not Sofia. There's word of
26:47
body snatchers lurking about.
26:48
Oh dear. I think I may
26:51
have seen those viral
26:53
creatures. On the far
26:55
east side of
26:57
the cemetery, Behind the Lord Oaktree. I'll
26:59
have a quick look. Now you
27:01
get yourself home, ma'am. I
27:03
will. Is then you're comfortable.
27:05
I'll rush back
27:08
to the grave where the boys were still working on
27:10
a mortise. Again,
27:12
knock was on your side. Just
27:14
as I ride and I crack
27:16
it open.
27:18
Pinch. Just Help me lift them
27:20
out. Look
27:25
at
27:25
what I found. Oh, leave the bloody wedding ring in
27:28
a box. Emma.
27:29
Oh, come on, but who's gonna know?
27:31
Emma. Could I take the pocket watch at least?
27:34
No. No
27:34
fun. Let's go boys. And
27:39
just like that, we were off. The
27:41
package was safely secured in a
27:43
wagon, and all that copper had seen was a
27:45
uneven widow.
27:49
Wow. So I imagine you
27:52
must have done well from this one. My
27:54
love. I ended up deciding to do
27:56
this job, Qattice. Wait.
27:58
You you did all that for free.
28:00
After we delivered a corpse to
28:03
doctor Kork, paid her boys, but then
28:05
I gave more share to the girls
28:07
orphanage. For either.
28:09
Yeah. For either. Her death
28:11
sounded just like this bloke. Remember
28:14
how it was irritable and vomit
28:16
in order time? All his
28:19
symptoms were just not hers.
28:21
She had this strange rash behind
28:24
her ears.
28:25
And she had these
28:25
strange hairs that grew out of her
28:28
nose. They were not right at
28:30
all. Not at all. Just
28:32
It tore me up inside. I was hoping
28:34
maybe studying this cadaver would
28:36
help him, you know, find a cure
28:38
for all of
28:40
that.
28:40
What? Did
28:41
the doctor find anything? I
28:43
don't know. He doctor Cox said
28:45
he had a theory, you know, just
28:47
a theory. Remind
28:49
you. That this might have come from drinking
28:51
bad water. Oh my gosh.
28:53
Jess, I'm not sure about the nose hairs
28:55
thing, but I think you might have
28:57
helped discover
28:58
color. Is
28:58
that bad?
28:59
Yeah. It's really bad. In your
29:02
time, it killed over a hundred thousand people
29:04
in England alone.
29:05
Isn't that something? I
29:08
can hear A to say it now.
29:11
Oh, you really took the egg on at
29:13
one day. Go meet you. Don't go with the
29:15
germs. Oh,
29:18
jaz, I I may have been looking at your job
29:21
all wrong. You've you've really
29:23
given us a lot to think
29:24
about. Have you thought about
29:27
whether your watch is still in your
29:28
pocket? Not son
29:31
of a gun. Come
29:33
again. Just eat that,
29:36
Linda. I see. Very
29:38
good. He's good for end
29:40
up. That one.
29:49
In case you
29:52
are wondering, I have now
29:54
taken the watch to another
29:56
room so Jizz won't be getting
29:58
that again. Now, for
30:00
the toughest part of my job, telling
30:02
our guests what's happened to their
30:04
job. Look, if I can handle stuff in a corpse
30:07
hand in his own pocket to make
30:09
my getaway, I can handle
30:11
anything.
30:11
Well, I've got some bad
30:14
news. Resurrectionist is
30:16
dead, and it won't
30:19
be
30:19
resurrected.
30:19
You're quite proud of that aren't
30:22
you?
30:22
I am. Yes. What
30:24
did our sin? Was it
30:27
the
30:27
church? You know what? It's pretty grim. There were a
30:29
couple of guys from Scotland who killed
30:31
people just to sell the
30:32
bodies. Burke and hair, it was a
30:35
horrible scandal. God, dude.
30:37
I mean, I've made to get corpses and
30:39
sell them, but you go to all the line
30:41
somewhere. I
30:42
agree. It caused a public
30:44
outcry. And it got people talking about the
30:46
very real medical need for cadaver
30:48
research. So everything changed.
30:50
It
30:50
was easier for the dogs to
30:53
get bodies. Basically, yeah. They passed the
30:55
Anatomy Act in eighteen thirty two,
30:57
which made it much simpler for doctors to get
30:59
research good
31:00
hours. So the need for body snatching
31:02
practically disappeared overnight. Listen,
31:04
I'll snatch bodies, but it's not what I get up
31:06
in the morning. I'm not being
31:09
useful is all. Sometimes it's just
31:11
telling somebody the truth. Not
31:13
you, Chris. You cannot
31:15
wear nose pants. And
31:17
that's being useful. So
31:19
do the doctors and such
31:21
still do
31:21
there? What do you call it? Experiments
31:23
on bodies nowadays? They certainly do,
31:26
and there's more. In this country, you can
31:28
even take a little box at the DMV to
31:30
donate your organs to save another
31:32
person's
31:32
life. Oh, I don't know what
31:34
the DMV is, but I think that's all
31:36
Bullock's Chris. Are you pulling more
31:38
leg?
31:38
No. I'm not. It's true. They can
31:41
harvest the organs. They still
31:43
work. Outside your body.
31:45
Hello. Oh, I don't know. I'm not
31:47
gonna talk to jazz.
31:50
So if Aida wore around today, she
31:52
wouldn't have died. If she
31:54
had cholera? No. She would not
31:57
have died. And that research is something
31:59
that you were a part
31:59
of. So from all of us,
32:01
thank you. Oh, you're
32:04
welcome, Knove. Please just me to
32:06
hear that. It really does.
32:13
Alright. Time for my favorite
32:16
part of the show. The Fast Five. Five
32:18
quick questions. You answer straight off the
32:20
top of your head. You ready, Jez? Ready.
32:22
What is the biggest
32:25
misconception about resurrectionists?
32:27
Well, I have to say Is that what stupid
32:30
or something? You know, I mean, I'm a
32:32
very avid reader. I love
32:33
poetry. I ever wrote
32:36
my own poems.
32:37
What was
32:38
your biggest failure as a resurrectionist? My
32:42
biggest failure as
32:44
oh, yeah. There was that one time ago I
32:46
wasn't really
32:47
dead. What's he? Well,
32:48
I
32:48
suppose that's It's supposed
32:49
to put a bell in a coffin side if
32:52
you know that you can bring it.
32:54
Oh,
32:54
boy. What's the best compliment you ever received
32:57
for
32:57
your work? The
32:59
best compliment I ever. Oh, I know.
33:01
Well, it was I've
33:03
ticked up this one blow's grave, a real
33:06
fancy blow, you know. And
33:08
I got haunted by his
33:10
ghost
33:10
laughter. Said it did a nice
33:13
job. Okay. Gave
33:15
me a
33:15
fright, but I was still flat. You
33:18
know? Sure.
33:20
What advice would you give to someone wanting to
33:22
become a resurrectionist?
33:24
Oh, wow. To study
33:27
really really hard. Yeah. You gotta
33:29
take a lot of courses in
33:30
science, medicine. No.
33:33
For crossing, just don't do
33:35
it. See.
33:35
Yeah. The last one, if you could be remembered
33:37
for just one thing, what would it
33:40
be? Oh, that's an easy
33:41
one, Chris. I'd like to be
33:44
remembered as the girl who
33:45
stole your wallet and your
33:48
belt. Very funny jazz.
33:50
What What?
33:50
How? How you didn't even get them from your
33:53
seat? Trade secret. You
33:55
can have them back from autos
33:57
nightgowns when you face on
33:58
them. Okay. I mean, you can take as many as you'd
34:00
like. They're not selling very well. We
34:02
even have tote bags.
34:03
Yeah. But before you leave Jazz, Can I
34:06
have my favorite pin back? I didn't
34:07
take your pin. Jez.
34:09
And to
34:12
God, Chris. How
34:14
strange?
34:15
Linda, not you, not
34:18
you, when?
34:20
When you brought in the
34:22
t shirt. Maybe.
34:23
Oh. She's good, Chris. She's put out on
34:25
a herb and a heartbeat.
34:29
As you've been a terrible influence, but
34:31
a terrific guest. My
34:34
pleasure, Chris. I'll count you amongst
34:36
me China's. Oh, Raiming
34:38
slang. Wait. China plates
34:39
made? Well done. You're one of the boys
34:41
now love. Oh, Jess, it's
34:43
been a pleasure. And,
34:46
Linda, I still don't know what you used to be, but it certainly
34:48
wasn't a podcast producer. Oh,
34:50
it's all
34:51
detailed on my LinkedIn with
34:54
a couple. Emissions. It
34:55
still might be a grizzly
34:58
job, but it turns out there was more to body
35:00
snatching than I
35:02
originally thought. Resurrectionists
35:04
weren't taking parts of bodies to create
35:06
an animated corpse to terrorize the countryside.
35:08
In their own way, They
35:11
were an essential part of nineteenth century medical progress. So
35:13
does that make it okay? Well, let jazz
35:15
off the hook, but what
35:17
about the others? I'm
35:20
used to knowing right from wrong, but this is one of those times I
35:22
think, there might be a little gray.
35:24
Actually,
35:25
I take that back about
35:27
letting Jez off the hook, I've just discovered she's taken a
35:29
microphone, all of my pencils, the plate the sandwiches were on and
35:32
No. A small bag of sour cream and
35:34
onion chips, I was really looking forward to eating those
35:37
recording. Have you got any more of those
35:40
quick little potato things
35:42
with the fairy dust on him?
35:53
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