0:04

This might get weird. Are we rolling?

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We're rolling. Well then cheers Grace. Help

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me. Cheers memory heart. We are coming

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to you guys on this episode of

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This Might Get Real from Grace's in

0:15

Vegas and I'm in my pajamas on

0:18

the corner of my couch. Yeah, you

0:20

look like you're doing like a sympathy

0:22

morning for me over here in Vegas

0:25

right now. No, I

0:27

just you know I was telling you before

0:29

we got started I'm the one

0:31

who sleep deprived even though you're the one in Vegas.

0:33

Yeah. Yeah. So I'm keeping

0:35

it comfy. I'm in my baby Yoda. Hell

0:37

yeah. Hell yeah. You wonder

0:40

why I get the night sweats. Common

0:43

thing. Lots of response to night

0:46

sweats happening to a lot of people. Yeah,

0:48

it's Friday morning here in Vegas. One

0:51

of the rare times of the

0:53

week I've seen in Vegas. So pretty incredible.

0:55

We had a great night last night. I'll

0:57

talk about it on next week's pod. Totally.

1:01

But very excited to talk about

1:03

all the reality TV that we've

1:05

indulged in this week. Lots going

1:07

on. And also we asked

1:10

you guys last week since there's so many episodes

1:12

of so many things happening right now like what

1:14

are your preferences of shows. What

1:17

I saw from feedback was lots of people

1:20

wanting conversation about drag race and

1:22

survivor. Yeah. Okay.

1:25

And bachelor. So I think like Vanderpumpkin like

1:27

if we have stuff to say maybe but I think we

1:29

focus on those three. Totally. Well should

1:31

I just say what I think about Vanderpump real

1:34

quick and we'll like I think

1:36

it's so redundant. I

1:38

think they like you know like

1:41

we said before they peaked and this is the

1:43

denouement. Yeah. It's just going

1:46

to continue to be a Tom

1:48

Sandoval redemption slash apology. That's not

1:50

actually an apology tour. Yeah. You

1:53

know what I mean. What I'll say about this week

1:55

is the God bless and I

1:58

feel very sorry for this guided meditation.

2:00

teacher. I know! I was like this

2:02

woman had to know what she was

2:04

walking into and agreeing to do. Also

2:07

I remember reading like you know

2:09

a blind item type of thing

2:11

about possibly Sheena and Brock are

2:13

headed for divorce something like

2:15

that and this is the episode where I was like

2:17

I could see that like when she showed up a

2:19

little bit when he showed up a little bit late

2:22

from playing golf and also I was like good on

2:24

you for getting up so early driving the other side

2:26

of the lake and playing golf I would have been

2:28

like look at my man he's got he's got past

2:30

it. No, but she

2:32

was pissed and she made it to Sheena show as she always

2:34

does. Yeah and the previews for

2:36

next week don't look any better she's really

2:38

doubling down on how she really wanted dancing

2:40

with the stars more than anything and that

2:43

she's been taking dance lessons and off chance

2:45

that she got it and then Ariana got

2:47

it. It's just a it can be look

2:50

two things can be true at once that can be

2:52

how she really feels and it can be a bad

2:54

look on TV. Yeah absolutely and the

2:56

one other thing I wrote down about it

2:58

was that I think

3:01

it was this episode basically Tom Sandoval saying

3:03

you know I was out there on tour

3:05

and doing all this stuff and he was

3:07

saying like I didn't want to do that

3:09

like I was broke I was broke I

3:11

needed the money he has nine

3:14

bandmates and they were

3:16

playing like peewee softball fields.

3:19

Yeah as someone who you and

3:21

I tour and there's only

3:23

two of us and we have no equipment

3:25

and like there couldn't it couldn't be more

3:27

bare bones with you and I do and

3:30

we still kind of break even. Yeah yeah

3:32

I was like how much is he getting

3:34

paid for this tour this is crazy. Grace

3:36

I went on his website yeah Tom Sandoval

3:39

the most extras they have a whole spring

3:41

tour. Okay so it's still

3:43

happening. There's nine of them a whole spring

3:45

tour and the one thing I'll say is

3:48

the places they are playing no hate to

3:50

Warrendale Pennsylvania. Yeah but they are playing like

3:52

one of their tour dates is Jurgle's Rhythm

3:54

Grill. What? Did you

3:57

have a stroke? Jurgle's?

4:00

Rhythm Grill in Warrindale

4:02

PA and I was like what's the other

4:05

talent that's going there? Well we've got the

4:07

Red Hot Chili Pipers, a bagpipe cover

4:09

band. Honestly, let's

4:12

get tickets. I know, I'm like should

4:14

we go to Warrindale? And then a few days before

4:16

the most extras play we've

4:18

got Minikiss. Just a kiss

4:20

cover band with little people.

4:23

Okay, so a variety of...

4:25

What I'm saying is let's go to Jurgles for

4:27

a week. Yeah, Jurgles is where it's at, is

4:29

what it sounds like. Should we do

4:32

a show in Jurgles? How do we get in

4:34

on this? Jurgles! Is Jurgles the cash

4:36

cow that we didn't know about? My god!

4:40

So anyway, that's my overall thoughts is

4:42

let's continue to watch Sheena break down

4:44

and possibly her marriage. Yeah, it's tough

4:46

too because like all this stuff happened

4:49

last summer and everyone has

4:51

been following this on their like social medias

4:53

in real time. So it's also a little

4:55

hard to watch something that feels like it happened so

4:57

long ago play out when you kind of

4:59

got the taste of it through what

5:02

they post on social media already. Well just

5:04

and also just the speed of it. I feel like we

5:06

kind of... It's like we

5:08

went from watching hockey to baseball. Yeah,

5:11

yeah, good analogy. This is so slow.

5:13

Yeah, you know what I mean. Okay,

5:15

so V-Pump, you dumped. Bam!

5:18

Okay, let's get into Drag Race since

5:20

this was the most furthest away from

5:22

when we're talking right now. I know,

5:24

I know. Overall,

5:27

I really like this episode. I

5:31

am sure that this is the third

5:33

sewing challenge. That's the first time they've done that since

5:35

like season four or something? Someone

5:37

said on Twitter that it was because of

5:39

the writer's strike. But I

5:41

don't know who knows. It's just a guess.

5:44

I don't know how accurate that is, but

5:46

I can believe that that is how that

5:48

lined up. I don't know. I'm going

5:51

to say based on the

5:53

mini challenge being a spit take

5:55

challenge, I would agree that

5:57

no writers were present for the seventh time.

6:00

But I didn't mind. It

6:02

was spit take. It's fun. They just

6:04

look stupid. I don't think it... It's

6:08

like my least favorite mini challenge. A,

6:10

just because I'm thinking about the

6:13

spit crew, as they say, which

6:15

you know aren't actually cleaning it up. They go

6:18

back to their trailers and other people come clean

6:20

it up. But also, it's just there's no real

6:22

way to be funny during it. I mean, really. And

6:26

then also, all I get thinking is because

6:28

she's so bad at somebody thinks, is

6:30

if Maya had gone first, she would have just

6:33

swallowed the water. And they're like, wait, what? He

6:36

was supposed to... I don't know. I'm

6:38

great. I'm not worth it. Oh, man.

6:40

Yeah. The mini

6:42

challenges, I kind of tune out. I don't really watch. But

6:45

then I realize they do win $2,500 for spitting water and

6:49

getting into quick drag. Well,

6:51

the reading challenge is always actually showing some

6:53

talent. Yeah. That one's

6:55

really fun. OK, this week we are

6:58

doing a design challenge.

7:01

And it's new. New. What

7:03

is it? Neo-Goth? Neo-Goth.

7:05

Like new goth. That's OK.

7:08

First, my biggest overarching question of

7:10

this entire episode is, what

7:12

qualifies as goth? What

7:15

is goth? What's punk?

7:18

What's emo? Like, are they interchangeable?

7:20

Because I feel like you could argue

7:22

that a lot of the looks were

7:24

more punk and emo versus

7:26

like goth maybe. But that's just

7:29

maybe my misunderstanding of it. No.

7:32

I feel like it was all over the board,

7:34

you know? Because even... And we'll

7:36

get into more details. But even some of

7:38

the outfits, I was like, I would never

7:40

call this... I would never call

7:43

Q's look goth. Right. But

7:45

Neo-Goth. New

7:47

goth? Maybe. Is that what Neo means?

7:50

New? Or is it Neo-like Matrix? I

7:53

wish. I don't know. I

7:56

just assumed that it meant like a

7:59

modern... interpretation of goth

8:02

Yes, I guess you could qualify

8:04

everyone's designs as that They

8:06

just didn't want you to come as a Victorian era

8:08

goth, but a lot of people did that's what I

8:10

mean I was so confused like what are they actually

8:12

looking for? However, I will

8:15

say overall like I thought all the

8:17

designs are really good like really well

8:19

done for the most part For

8:22

what they have to work with and also like when

8:24

they started this episode and they announced

8:26

that it was a design challenge I was like

8:28

ma'am. They really want Maya gone, and they

8:30

really want Nymphia to say like this is why

8:32

I Mean it definitely

8:34

look here's the deal is I

8:37

love a sewing challenge, but I also

8:39

really loved Project Runway, etc However,

8:42

I feel like there needs to be ways

8:44

in which for this it was just solely

8:46

based on the look You know yeah, so

8:49

that if you can't sew You're

8:51

screwed, or you're asking Saphira to help you

8:53

yeah I like when they

8:56

do a sewing challenge or a design challenge With

8:58

another element like when they do an

9:01

unconventional one you know yeah, we get

9:03

that Monet exchange Sponge

9:06

bunches yeah, yeah, like that tiny

9:08

paper Lala lala ree

9:10

I mean that was art and

9:13

that honestly like gave

9:15

her such status in the universe of

9:17

drag I feel like it was a

9:19

perfect accident that brought that she secured

9:22

the bag So

9:25

I like when there's an element where even

9:27

if you're not great like that would it

9:29

be okay for you There's a hot glue

9:31

gun or you have a really great idea

9:33

for this tarp or even I'm thinking

9:35

about the previous design challenge With the dolls

9:38

yeah Playing Jane I'm not

9:40

sure if she won that one, but she

9:42

definitely did really well And she had a

9:44

so so our outfit looks great But I

9:46

didn't love her outfit on that design challenge,

9:49

but her voiceover explaining the doll was hysterical

9:51

was very fun So like a

9:53

design challenge where there's like an element to

9:55

where if you're not great at sewing you

9:57

can really still like yeah some skills or

10:00

or like show some humor a different way.

10:02

Yeah, I was listening to Willem and Alaska's

10:04

Race Chaser this week, and

10:06

they brought up a great point too.

10:08

Well, obviously there's like the criticism that

10:10

like design challenges or sewing challenges don't

10:12

really matter as much as they did

10:15

in the early seasons because queens

10:17

aren't out there sewing all their looks all

10:19

the time as much as they used to.

10:21

But that they brought up, I think Willem

10:24

said, it would be really interesting to make

10:26

it like a true design challenge and have

10:28

like seamstresses assigned to all the queens. So

10:30

the queens design their look and then someone

10:33

that is a professional sewer puts it together

10:35

so you can really judge it on the

10:37

actual design of it itself. Design

10:39

as opposed to execution. Yeah, the craftsmanship.

10:41

I feel like that would have been

10:43

kind of interesting. I mean, that's a

10:46

way bigger undertaking. And obviously everyone, I

10:48

think loves the gag of seeing like

10:50

who can sew and who can't. But,

10:53

well, how do you feel

10:55

about Saphira helping Maya? Because Dawn

10:58

at one point said, like you helping

11:00

her helps me lose. And that's not

11:02

a direct quote, but I feel the

11:05

exact same way. I

11:07

mean, it's tough. Saphira is awesome. I love

11:09

her so much. Her pep talk

11:12

to plasma in this workroom

11:14

when plasma was like kind of spiraling. And

11:16

I wrote down the quote that she said,

11:19

that annoying girl, I need her right now.

11:22

Like he was telling her like, you're not being yourself.

11:24

I need you to get back. I was just like,

11:26

that's such a sweet, I know. I

11:28

was just like, I'm more worried about your insides. I was

11:31

like, oh, what a mother moment. How lovely. But that is

11:33

like, I mean, if you're

11:35

Saphira too, and you have

11:37

such maternal instincts, how do you

11:39

deny your sister needing help? And

11:42

how do you, I mean, that's

11:44

a tough boundary to create. It's

11:47

not a team challenge. And

11:49

I totally get it. And like, I'm team

11:52

Dawn's quote on that one. Yeah. Because

11:55

it really is like, I understand helping someone

11:57

out. And I especially understand, like you just

11:59

said. Saphira helping out plasma emotionally.

12:01

Yeah. But at the end of

12:04

the day, I would feel like,

12:06

well, hold on. Saphira, Saphira

12:08

just won this challenge. You know,

12:10

Saphira is safe twice. Mine isn't. You know

12:12

what I mean? Yeah. So

12:14

I understand if it's a group challenge

12:17

and you help someone with their choreo

12:19

or give someone a pep talk, but

12:21

fully making a dress for another person.

12:24

Yeah, I would be pissed if I was

12:26

the other girl. I yeah, I know. And

12:28

then it comes down to like what qualifies

12:30

as her making it because I am assuming

12:33

or at least they like made

12:35

it seem like Saphira

12:37

just kind of helped guide her and

12:39

Maya actually sewed it herself. I think

12:41

Maya was taking a nap. I know,

12:44

but Maya, I honestly,

12:46

I'm becoming more of a Maya fan. Like

12:49

her just kind of like

12:51

having some confidence now and just like

12:53

walking around the world. She got cocky.

12:56

I know. It's kind

12:58

of fun to see that she's

13:00

like calling people out. And I

13:03

don't mind it. I think it's very, very

13:05

fun. Here's what I'll say. I like Maya

13:07

in an untucked cocky and I

13:09

can appreciate. Do I think she

13:12

has any right being

13:15

staying? Yeah. As opposed to any of

13:17

these other girls. Absolutely

13:19

not. And I understand that it all comes down

13:21

to the lip sync. I said this last week.

13:24

I say this every week because Maya is always

13:26

in the bottom and always coming through. It's

13:28

just kind of like it's

13:31

not an overall queen. Yeah,

13:33

I would absolutely go to her show, but like,

13:35

I don't think she should, you know, would

13:38

represent the brand. Right. And that's like,

13:40

that's the weird. That's the interesting part

13:42

about this show as it evolves, because

13:44

like when you look at someone like

13:46

you, you're like, wow, what

13:48

an amazing design, like

13:50

truly unbelievable, very

13:53

inspiring. But I would

13:55

rather watch Maya lip sync than Q had a

13:57

show, you know. So like if I pay for.

14:00

show somewhere I would rather be

14:02

entertained by

14:04

Maya maybe. So let's

14:06

just get into these designs.

14:09

I thought here

14:12

I'm gonna say something that's controversial. Girl

14:14

please do it because I'm always getting

14:16

dragged in these comments. I and

14:20

I already talked to Tim about this. I

14:22

didn't hate plasma's look

14:25

like but because I created a narrative in

14:27

my head for it. In my head her

14:29

look was like gossip

14:31

girl tries goth

14:34

and so it's like fashion

14:37

light like I'm a popular high school girl

14:39

and I'm trying to do goth but it's

14:41

like kind of not totally

14:43

correct. See my story for

14:45

it was gothmic

14:47

attempts to be a bad

14:50

share. Yeah okay yeah that's

14:52

right. I see that one too.

14:54

Absolutely. Now okay talking

14:56

about the plasma of it all. What

15:00

do you feel about the

15:02

internet is a little like on

15:04

Dawn's ass about like villain behavior

15:06

of her telling plasma that she

15:09

should change up what the judges

15:11

expect in the workroom which I

15:13

don't think was said

15:15

with any strategic malice intent. I think

15:18

she was giving her genuine advice that

15:20

like you're pigeon holing yourself

15:22

with this one style

15:25

and maybe it's time to try something new

15:27

because that's what the judges preach all the

15:29

time. It's an oxymoron of being like yeah

15:31

you better know your brand and also you

15:33

better come to delivering something different every week.

15:36

Well yeah exactly I know it's the inner

15:38

conundrum of like I need to

15:40

be original but I need to also do what I know

15:42

they like. Yeah you know

15:44

if you are on chopped you're

15:46

not gonna give Scott Conant raw red

15:48

onions but what if raw red onions

15:50

are what your dish calls for? You

15:53

know? Deep cut. Here's

15:56

what I'll say on our episode last week you know

15:58

I do the regular go respond to some comments. or

16:00

whatnot. And there was a comment that was thumbsed

16:02

up quite a bit that was like basically disagreeing

16:04

with what I had said about plasma last week,

16:06

where I was like, I think she needs to

16:08

do something different. She needs to mix it up.

16:11

And totally valid point. Yeah. Yeah. But

16:14

the comment was like, I disagree

16:16

because there's other queens and they

16:18

specifically said Jinx, Bianca, Sharon needles,

16:20

Violet and Sasha Velour who did

16:22

the same thing consistently and you

16:24

know, they, they persevere. They, you

16:26

know, one whatnot. Here's what

16:28

I'll say. Okay. Those

16:30

people had an original

16:33

character. Even, I mean,

16:35

even like Bianca, who is, you know, a very

16:37

much like, you know, comic like

16:39

brash, whatever, still has her own

16:41

thing going. Sasha Velour and absolute

16:43

original Violet Chachki Jinx, great at

16:46

impressions, but also a spooky little

16:48

crazy weirdo, you know, and theater

16:50

queen. Yeah. And theater queen. So

16:52

with plasma, the reason why I

16:54

was like mix it up is

16:56

because I feel like her

16:59

bread and butter was solely acting

17:02

like other theater queens instead of

17:04

embracing her own. So like when

17:06

she did Patty Lapone and

17:08

she did her first talent show, she

17:10

was doing like Joan Rivers and stuff. Yeah.

17:12

And even when she didn't want to be Barbara

17:14

and then she won that week. And so, and

17:16

she said like, I don't, I

17:19

need to do something. I don't want to

17:21

get pigeonholed. Right. So me saying that about,

17:23

or us saying that about plasma was really

17:25

like, plasma's got a fiery little personality. Let's

17:28

quit just pretending to be other divas. You

17:31

know what I mean? I just

17:33

wanted to see her do something

17:35

stupid. She plays these divas. She

17:37

plays them like very

17:39

accurately. I think Dawn or Q said this

17:41

to her too. Like you do a great

17:43

impression. It's just not funny. Like I just

17:46

want to see her like let

17:48

loose. What is that? Lucy DeLuca.

17:50

Let loose. I

17:54

want to see her do

17:56

something. Yeah. Yeah. The anthem

17:58

of a generous. I

18:02

really wanted to just see plasma

18:04

do something like absolutely dumb really

18:06

really stupid high camp or something

18:10

And I don't know that this challenge

18:12

unfortunately was the place for her to

18:14

experiment with that But I give her

18:16

nothing but credit for experimenting and I

18:19

feel like she Shouldn't

18:21

regret anything that she did because she

18:23

had an amazing showing on this show

18:26

Well, that's when it gets tough because

18:28

yes Maya had some great backflips and

18:30

and lips sank the shit out of

18:32

that song That I'm talk sped up

18:35

version of Bloody Mary totally

18:37

I But

18:39

like I would rather watch plasma

18:41

at the rest of the season. Yeah a hundred

18:44

thousand percent I think plasma is

18:47

incredibly talented And

18:49

I just I'm sorry I'm acting like

18:51

such a Maya hater, but I am even her

18:53

taking off the wigs at early other people would

18:56

be crucified for that Yeah, there's a taking off

18:58

her shoes taking off wigs There's a lot of

19:00

stuff that I people are questioning like I guess

19:02

this has changed that rude thinks this is okay

19:04

now Or this before was like absolutely you do

19:07

not do this Or

19:09

you're gonna be sent home So totally if

19:11

I was a drag queen right now with

19:14

hopes of ever going on this show Obviously

19:17

I would I would

19:19

cancel my sewing lessons and sign up

19:21

for acrobatics, right? Right at what point

19:24

is it that everyone needs to do

19:26

tricks and stunts like yeah? Because

19:28

that's a bit intimidating not everyone can do

19:30

that But everyone could learn how to sew

19:33

well cuz look at that that list jinx

19:35

Bianca Sharon Sasha all these people It's like

19:37

all about the artistic stuff. Yeah, they're not

19:39

doing flips They're not doing

19:41

sweat Okay, so let's

19:43

talk about our favorite looks yeah, my

19:46

favorite looks of the week were Dawn

19:48

and Nymphia Yeah,

19:50

I loved I loved

19:52

Dawn's look and it's a

19:54

shame because it's such a high-caliber group

19:56

So yeah, her stuff is like amazing,

19:58

but then you have Q and Nymphia

20:00

that you're like, how do you compete? I

20:03

thought it was so cool that Dawn has an

20:05

engineering degree. I know with the little chandelier and

20:08

the fishing wire. Yeah. I thought it was so

20:10

beautiful and intricate, especially when you look at it

20:12

up close, but like when you look at it

20:14

from a distance on the runway, it didn't have

20:17

as much of an impact. Okay. Well, here's what

20:19

I'll say is one of the reasons

20:22

why I think, and I really enjoy Q just because

20:24

I don't love her brick. Yeah. I

20:26

enjoy Q. I feel like one of

20:28

the reasons why she won, I don't

20:30

think her outfit, I think her outfit was

20:32

gothic. I don't think it was goth, but

20:35

it made such a statement because it was

20:37

white. I feel like Dawn's outfit,

20:39

if it'd been any other challenge, but the

20:41

same design in colors where you could really

20:43

see the detail more, she would have won.

20:46

Yeah. I agree. Because it was black. And

20:48

especially when you have someone like Nymphia that comes out

20:51

and does something similar ish to

20:53

Dawn, but does it to

20:55

this like extra haunted goth-y

20:57

like, um, couture

20:59

degree. You're just like,

21:01

wow, how do you compete with that? I mean,

21:04

I love Nymphia. She knocked it out of the

21:06

park. Q's I thought was really cool. I

21:08

just was like, I don't know if this

21:10

is goth. It feels like, I guess like

21:12

goth Mad Max. Like, you know who it

21:15

reminded me of? With the

21:17

big white outfit and the makeup and

21:19

the little squiggle. Yeah. Who

21:21

was that like haunted clown

21:23

guy who sings covers of

21:25

pop music, it's like waddles,

21:28

you know who I'm talking about? People who

21:30

are going to streamies. What is it called?

21:32

It's like, chuckles the clown or something. It's

21:34

a band and he tours and they do

21:37

covers of like pop songs. Let's see. Maybe

21:39

I'm not, it

21:41

doesn't come to mind immediately, but

21:43

I, I'm sure the reference is

21:45

there. I also, I love in

21:48

terms of like presentation on the

21:51

runway. Safira is amazing. Like her,

21:53

I'm over it. Like bride and

21:55

Ru saying like it's lunchtime

21:58

or break time at the haunted. I

22:01

killed me. Okay puddles pity party

22:05

Okay, like anyway, it just feels a little

22:07

bit like That

22:10

would have been amazing for the like

22:12

sad clown challenge Yeah, but it didn't

22:14

feel gothic it felt hot it felt.

22:16

I don't know creepier Um,

22:19

I will say about Sephira who I

22:21

adore. Yeah, she's doing the big eyes.

22:23

Yeah character for every

22:25

runway Okay, I

22:27

want to see Sephira be soft I

22:30

want to see I think the eyes are

22:32

her leer hilarious. Yeah, like I think that's

22:34

just her thing. Yeah Yeah, it's like big

22:37

eyes like judge judge, you know,

22:39

like maternal figure So I want to see

22:41

Sephira mix it up out there a little

22:43

bit. I bet we will she's I'm

22:45

at She seems like she can do

22:47

it all so I know that Jim Yeah, you do

22:49

it all including help other people not go

22:51

home. Yeah, I also thought morphine

22:54

wasn't that bad I didn't love plain

22:56

James. I'm trying to think of who

22:58

else Is in the

23:00

competition still more again, that's the one that

23:02

felt Mad Max to me like with

23:05

morphine. I was kind of like Okay,

23:07

we're points. Yeah, I

23:09

hate it. It felt it felt like

23:11

the love child of Morticia and and

23:16

Someone who would fight the Ninja Turtles Yeah,

23:19

okay. I gave up on rock steady. Yep perfect

23:23

But I do think we're

23:26

getting down to nitty-gritty and it's gonna be

23:30

It's gonna be hard from here on out It's

23:32

gonna be hard if Maya doesn't go home next week.

23:35

I know I know I mean,

23:37

it's all the writings on the wall. It feels like Well,

23:40

I feel like at this point they'll make

23:42

next week like the the gymnastics challenge right

23:44

there Yeah, someone tweeted.

23:46

What does Maya have on route? Oh,

23:55

and people did get upset that I

23:58

guess dawn and cue and those Queens

24:00

had like a big reaction to Maya

24:02

staying. People are picking up on potential

24:04

like mean girl behavior but I think

24:06

it might just be edited like that. I would

24:08

say- Well, she was- And I'm a massive mean

24:11

girl. I've just been talking shit for 20 minutes.

24:13

I would say Q is getting

24:15

a little snobby. Q's getting a little,

24:18

a little, little snobby. Squeaking out a

24:20

little bit. I like Q a lot

24:22

but I could also, I could picture

24:25

Q in a backstage dressing room without

24:29

cameras around being a little bit

24:31

like, no, sorry, I have

24:33

all the makeup tables. Yeah. Yeah.

24:36

Well, we'll see. Very

24:38

excited. And that's tonight. Ooh, have fun.

24:40

Oh, wow. Yeah. And do

24:42

we know what the big challenge is tonight? I forget. I

24:45

didn't watch the next week. So

24:47

it'll be a surprise. It'll be a surprise y'all.

24:50

Let's talk about bachelor? Bachelor.

24:53

That's the next in line. Hormetown dates.

24:55

Well, and this is where you might

24:57

have to fill me in on some

24:59

of the tropes.

25:03

Okay. Well, I learned that the airport

25:07

hangar is a trope. It's

25:10

the iconic, like I guess it's where

25:12

they always do the rose ceremony before

25:14

they go to hometown or after hometown

25:16

dates. And I truly never clock that.

25:19

Yeah, because I was like, why the fuck

25:21

are they in an airport hangar right now?

25:23

What's going on? I feel like they've had

25:25

several seasons where the bachelor

25:27

is a pilot. Oh.

25:30

And they did one, I mean, there's at

25:32

least three seasons where the bachelor is a

25:34

pilot. And then also there was a season

25:36

where they had two people, two bachelorettes at

25:39

the same time. And one of them was

25:41

a pilot. So I knew they

25:43

would do the airport hangers, those themes, but I

25:45

didn't know it was like a hometown thing. Okay.

25:49

Yeah. I love the opening of Maria's

25:51

dad as this like

25:53

Godfather figure. They played Godfather

25:55

Italian music under that man

25:58

the entire episode. think

26:00

the editors looked up mobster sound

26:03

like royalty-free mobster yeah

26:05

exactly I like is he even

26:08

Italian they said Greek Italian is

26:11

Joey Greek or Italian I don't

26:13

know like playing the godfather and

26:15

then they're like oh have these

26:18

iconic Greek stuffed peppers I

26:20

was like oh what's happening here

26:22

I know her father is a

26:25

sweetheart yeah he's okay I will

26:27

say this I started watching this

26:29

on the treadmill while I was walking and

26:31

I started like tearing up

26:33

because the dads on this episode

26:35

were so genuine and sweet and

26:38

protective of their daughters and I

26:40

was like this is a lot

26:42

um especially starting

26:45

off with Kelsey in New Orleans

26:47

her dad oh my god oh

26:50

my god I was like

26:52

you know you know there's a producer behind

26:54

the scenes going he's the good he's gonna

26:56

be the golden bachelor well and if he

26:58

doesn't get picked she's gonna be the bachelorette

27:00

and we'll do a double season that's all

27:02

I thought yeah that's all I thought I

27:04

mean everyone is going crazy about going to

27:06

bachelor I told you that I I haven't

27:08

started following Kelsey on TikTok but I watched

27:10

enough that he's in my algorithm and

27:13

it's just there it was just her

27:15

and her siblings reacting to people's

27:17

thirst TikToks about her dad and

27:20

like just screaming and being like

27:22

this is my dad you guys

27:24

you're so fucked up like her

27:26

TikTok's very funny um and he

27:29

is so handsome what

27:32

a lovely man what a lovely family

27:34

all together I thought the New Orleans

27:36

date was adorable I know

27:38

some people will disagree but I think

27:40

him and Kelsey have the most same

27:43

have the most chemistry and also what

27:45

feels like we want to fuck

27:48

yeah they definitely

27:50

seem like they genuinely are

27:52

attracted to each other and

27:54

they also seem the less

27:57

the least awkward with each other like I'm

27:59

not worried when I watch them that one

28:01

of them is going to say something weird. Or

28:05

it's going to get weird. I'm like these genuine.

28:07

I feel like I'm genuinely watching people that are

28:09

dating right now. I

28:11

know they, they'll always say it's a big thing on

28:13

bachelor. That'll be like, it feels when I'm like, I

28:15

feel like I just spent the day with my boyfriend

28:18

and with them I'm like, Oh, you

28:20

kind of look like you went into a bar. You

28:22

walked through the park. You had a

28:24

cute moment. Like it wasn't, it didn't

28:27

feel like this big produced orchestrated day,

28:29

which I liked. Like when he went

28:31

home with, um, not blanking on her

28:33

name, Daisy. No, she's

28:35

Hawaiian. Oh, Rachel, Rachel.

28:38

Like it was adorable, but I was like,

28:40

this is an incredibly produced

28:44

backyard barbecue. Yeah. That was a

28:46

very intense, uh, situation

28:48

for both of them. You could feel like

28:50

I felt for Rachel of being like, I'm

28:52

so nervous about this. And like, he's going

28:54

to be introduced to my family and my

28:56

culture and traditions. And this is like a

28:58

lot. Um, I did

29:01

though, appreciate Rachel's dad. Uh,

29:03

when Rachel was like, you do know what happens at the end

29:05

of this. And he was like, I don't watch the show. Like,

29:09

I like her dad. Yeah,

29:13

that was pretty good. No, her family was super cute.

29:15

Like I wanted to go hang out there and I

29:18

thought it was adorable. I still don't

29:20

really understand their chemistry. Same. I don't see

29:22

unless they're not, I don't know. I don't

29:25

see it. They're the same with

29:27

the other girls. And that's what

29:29

Twitter is saying too. So yeah. And I

29:31

don't know if she's just kind of guarded

29:33

or what. Obviously there's a spark there, especially

29:35

for what I thought he's had connections with

29:37

other people and to keep her there. But,

29:40

um, I thought her little nephew is so

29:42

cute, but I would've been like, bitch, that's

29:44

not how you play cornhole. Yeah,

29:47

that's cheating. Okay. What? Okay.

29:49

Let's get the nephew and, and Sofira together.

29:53

Team. Daisy

29:57

lives on a Christmas tree farm

29:59

in Minnesota. or it was her grandparents'

30:01

Christmas tree farm. I felt like

30:03

we walked into a Lifetime movie when we

30:05

went there. She's been a Lifetime movie since

30:07

the beginning. Here's what I'll say about Daisy

30:10

and all her friends showing up. And I heard

30:13

echoes of this on the social medias. It

30:18

feels like Daisy is taking this

30:20

journey for herself. And

30:23

it's not about her connection with Joey. That's

30:25

what they've hinted a couple times that she's

30:27

like, I think I'll get there. I don't

30:29

know if I'll get there. That it makes

30:32

me wonder if she's the one at the

30:34

end that stands him up

30:36

in some way. Well, I just wonder too,

30:39

with Daisy, again,

30:41

with Daisy, I think they're like, cute together

30:43

and I like her, but like I don't

30:45

see any sexual chemistry. Again,

30:47

it's ABC, we don't need to. We'll

30:49

save it for the fantasy suite. But

30:52

it feels like her story has been

30:55

just her talking about her cochlear

30:57

implant and how she's working through

30:59

it and how tough it is.

31:01

When like, I haven't heard

31:03

her ask about Joey at all. Well,

31:06

that's what everyone, I saw a tweet that was like, all

31:09

these women keep trauma dumping on Joey. Like, do

31:11

we even know what his favorite color is? I

31:14

know, I'm like, what is Joey like besides

31:16

tennis? I know fucking idea.

31:18

And I guess maybe people who watch it

31:20

know a lot more about him from his

31:22

season when he was a contestant. Yeah,

31:25

that's what I can assume, but I've

31:27

learned zero about him other than he's

31:29

a cartoon character of a human that's

31:32

great at actively listening and loves tennis.

31:34

Yeah, but with Daisy, I was just

31:36

kind of like, okay, you're seeing your

31:38

friends, you're seeing your family, you're talking

31:40

about how tough it is. And

31:43

like, it just feels like we're

31:46

watching Daisy process this change in

31:48

her life, as opposed to watching

31:50

her form a connection with someone.

31:53

Yes, yeah. I mean, even like, well, I

31:55

loved her dad being like, her dad was

31:57

sweet. Oh my God, you're not gonna lose

31:59

your hearing. over it. I don't like

32:01

that. I was like, Oh, my God, these

32:03

dads, they're so sweet. That's for the win.

32:05

And then when she was sitting with their

32:07

family and could hear her brother's voice, that

32:09

was her brother's voice for the first time.

32:12

That's when I agree with you that I'm

32:14

like, we should just be following her journey

32:16

through her cochlear implant aftermath. Like,

32:19

we don't need to follow her looking for love.

32:21

That might be too much on her plate right.

32:23

Right. Well, her even saying at the beginning, like,

32:25

this is I feel like she said,

32:27

like, this is my first time dating with the with the

32:29

implant and all this stuff. Like, I

32:31

think she should have taken a year or two

32:33

to process that. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I

32:35

mean? I feel like you

32:37

learning all these things, which it makes for

32:40

a great TV, but doing all that on

32:42

camera, like maybe you should have dated a

32:44

few people and then like walked

32:46

in guns a blazing like this is who

32:48

I am. This is what's up. I'm not

32:51

going to cry about this every episode. Yeah.

32:53

I forget that everyone that's on this show

32:56

sent an audition tape to be on this show.

32:58

Right. They didn't get plucked at the. A

33:00

producer wasn't on the family Christmas farm

33:02

being right. Do you have a strapping

33:04

young daughter who would like to participate?

33:06

Like all of them thought about it,

33:09

thought about it a lot, sent in

33:11

audition tape went and did a million

33:13

follow up interviews. Yeah. Like they

33:15

were hungry for this. Yeah.

33:17

I don't I like

33:19

Daisy as a human being. I don't

33:21

fully see their connection. And but I

33:24

feel like the angle that

33:27

they are showing her in where it's all

33:29

about her cochlear implant makes it awkward for

33:31

him to like dump her or to like

33:33

let her go. So I yeah, I don't

33:36

understand like that. It just seems like

33:38

they're friends when they hang out. It

33:40

doesn't seem romantic to have you seen

33:42

this. I'm misreading it. Have you seen

33:45

the side by sides of when Kelsey

33:47

says I love you and when

33:49

Daisy does. No. Well

33:52

is it so different again? It's

33:54

it's such minutia and editing

33:56

and who knows. But I mean editing

33:59

I feel like they're aware of

34:01

every tiny detail. You don't see it's just,

34:03

you know, he's like smiling and, and you

34:05

know, he says something in response. That's like

34:07

comforting with Daisy. It's literally. And

34:12

then he's like, not an audible

34:14

joke. Now it wasn't a

34:16

drag race gulp. I wish they would have put

34:18

in the rattlesnake noise. But

34:21

like he's definitely, you

34:24

know, it's like processing a lot.

34:27

Now, let's talk Maria. Let's talk the ending

34:29

and how she chickened out of saying that

34:31

she loved him. And then do we think

34:33

that do we think that

34:35

factors in to why she went home

34:37

or do we think it's because of

34:39

her misstep the week before when she

34:42

was like, I think I'm done. I

34:45

think it planted the seed. I think

34:48

it's a combination of all of it. I think

34:50

like we as an audience are getting the

34:53

full picture, but Joey who knows how sequestered

34:55

he is. So he hears that like girls

34:57

have a problem with this girl. Then it's

34:59

like, oh, she doesn't say I love you.

35:03

Or she's holding back now. She wants to quit that

35:05

I think and then you have

35:07

someone like Kelsey who's being pretty consistent the

35:10

whole time. And I just

35:12

think he might genuinely like Kelsey

35:14

more. Also, she lives in Canada

35:16

and he lives where like they

35:19

have to factor in a little bit of

35:21

the practicality. Yeah, I think he currently lives

35:24

in Philly. I'm not exactly sure. Yeah, exactly.

35:26

But I'm actually surprised because

35:28

at some point it becomes

35:31

okay. Well, does she have

35:33

a citizenship or great card in America?

35:35

Like at what point are

35:38

we going to have a merge of

35:40

90-day fiance and the

35:43

bachelor? Well, I think she's

35:45

excellent TV. I've been a fan

35:47

of her since the beginning. She's just like a little,

35:49

you know, unpredictable

35:51

and I think but

35:53

I do think it's a little bit. As

35:56

we move through the season a little bit

35:58

of her making a spot for her. in

36:00

the Bachelor Nation. I don't

36:02

think it's entirely authentically

36:05

genuine. I think it's a bit a

36:08

bit maybe schemey but hey that's

36:10

the deal. That's the show. Who

36:13

wouldn't go in with some intention

36:15

of like because if you

36:17

if you didn't want to be looked

36:20

at by a nation you would

36:22

date at home off-screen.

36:24

Well there's a deal and what you

36:26

said about audition tape is that she

36:30

did not get plucked. They did not

36:32

randomly run into each other. So she

36:34

sent in an audition tape to be

36:36

on a show knowing she's never even

36:38

brought a guy home in real life.

36:40

Yeah that was wild.

36:44

I will say like her dad couldn't have

36:46

been cast better for what I imagine Maria's

36:48

father was like a pinky gold pinky ring?

36:50

Get out of here. Also he had that

36:53

80s rocker hair that it makes me think

36:55

like how many times have you played at

36:57

Jurgles? And in what cover band?

36:59

Exactly. I thought, all right so I mean

37:05

no spoilers we're talking about all of it.

37:07

So I was shocked that Maria

37:09

didn't get picked. I was too. I

37:12

was absolutely mouth agape. I

37:15

couldn't believe the tension that must have filled

37:17

that hangar. Yeah it was wild.

37:19

Also Maria pulling him to the side

37:22

and then Rachel being like what did you talk

37:25

about? I saw Twitter being like why is Rachel

37:27

so oppressed about this? Because Maria is the people's

37:29

choice. A lot of people are obviously very upset.

37:32

People are big fans of her. But

37:34

if I was Rachel I'd be fucking

37:36

furious. I'd be like what is the

37:38

etiquette of this show? I'm being

37:40

polite. I'm being polite people aside. Like you know

37:43

and it truly I've seen it before where it's

37:45

like before I go home I

37:47

have to tell him I loved him. It like

37:49

literally this exact same setup. However with Rachel like

37:51

we don't know the behind the scenes shenanigans and

37:53

they've now been there a couple of

37:55

months. So it's like Rachel has the

37:58

first few weeks there. It was consumed with

38:01

the Maria and Sydney drama. Yeah, then it

38:03

was this and that and I'm sure Rachel

38:05

is just and she's a fucking ER trauma

38:07

nurse. So yeah at this point she's like

38:09

I'm tired of these little girls. Yeah Yeah,

38:11

does Joey want to date me or not?

38:14

Right. Yeah And like if she is

38:16

the one that keeps getting special access

38:18

to him when we're told we're not

38:20

allowed This is just a

38:23

very unfair situation to be in Agree.

38:25

Yeah, so I felt her frustration and

38:27

I couldn't believe that Maria didn't get

38:30

chosen but ultimately I think

38:32

like They're there the kind

38:34

of couple that you're like they would hook up

38:36

and have a good hookup But I don't know

38:38

that they would have a good relationship. Thank you.

38:40

I think it would be like a whirlwind crazy

38:44

fun time for Max

38:46

three months. Yeah. Yeah,

38:48

it seems like Joey really is looking

38:50

for a partner now I

38:53

think it should be Kelsey. I'm team. Yeah,

38:55

I'll see but we'll see I'm

38:57

team Kelsey and I will be again Shocked

39:00

if she's not the one at the end

39:02

of this just based off of what their

39:04

natural chemistry looks like I think

39:06

Chip is walking by in the background Dentist

39:09

nice old based on Larry

39:11

looking up. It's happening. Okay,

39:13

let's talk Which

39:15

we actually watched together this week. That

39:17

was so fun. So fun Um

39:21

wild episode, I'm still getting to learn

39:23

everyone's names because there's so many people

39:26

there's so many people Let's

39:28

see the Okay,

39:32

go ahead say out of the gate one of my

39:34

favorite moments. Yeah again. I will just refer to

39:36

people by their characteristics

39:39

and appearance was the Song

39:42

off between yeah the Swifty and

39:44

the rocker dude where they were

39:46

going name for name of who

39:48

could name the most songs From

39:50

their favorite catalog Metallica versus Taylor

39:52

Swift and they named over a

39:54

hundred songs each which is wild

39:56

It was totally wild. I will

39:58

say with the Swift calling

40:00

in a remix I don't think counts. I

40:04

mean he was going deep cuts out

40:06

of the gate to prove I think his

40:09

fan, how deep his

40:11

fan goes. But yeah

40:14

that was very, that was fun. We got to see

40:16

a little personality. That's how you know the episodes are

40:18

an hour and a half right now and not an

40:20

hour. I know. Someone

40:22

posted a video clip

40:25

that I guess was like unseen

40:27

footage of Venus talking to Treven,

40:29

Treven, Teven, and saying like why

40:31

wasn't this in the episode versus

40:34

that dumb Taylor Swift

40:36

montage. Because it's like she and Teven

40:38

are the only ones of their tribe

40:40

that haven't like bonded.

40:43

Yeah. Venus is getting

40:45

like people are coming for

40:47

her. A lot of airtime. A

40:49

lot of airtime. But

40:51

also her tribe like doesn't trust her and

40:54

Soda keeps trying to steal that thing out

40:56

of her hand. Ripping it out. The immunity

40:58

idol has been ripped out of her hand.

41:00

And for me I'm just kind of like

41:03

well is it always being handed

41:05

to Venus? Right. Is Venus

41:07

going to get it? And so does just like why

41:09

is she always go? I think naturally

41:11

I think Venus is like the cute

41:13

girl there. And so I feel

41:16

like people are playing a little bit of like oh

41:18

this cute girl. But also she's so little.

41:21

I don't know how well she's going

41:23

to do in challenges. Yeah.

41:26

Fair. I mean everyone this season.

41:28

I mean I saw people tweeting

41:30

like I'm sick

41:32

of them casting dorks. And

41:34

I can say this as a fellow

41:37

dork that I want some strong people

41:39

on this island that can lift things.

41:42

I want some people who have

41:45

been training for this. I want people who their

41:47

backstory is like hey 2020 was a doozy. So

41:50

I became a prepper and I know how

41:52

to do everything. I don't need look case

41:55

in point and we were we were cracking

41:57

up. Case in point when they did the.

42:00

community challenge and the two women on

42:02

the sidelines were essentially twins. Liz

42:04

and Mo having their parent trap moment. I

42:07

mean, like we do, I, saying

42:10

we don't need more dorks, I

42:13

couldn't agree more. I want a

42:15

CrossFit mom. I want, you

42:17

know, I need all of that. Yeah,

42:20

it doesn't, I mean, it

42:22

is, it's interesting because, so

42:24

the other major discourse this

42:26

episode is that we get

42:28

some villain,

42:31

mean girl, mean boy

42:33

behavior. And everyone

42:36

on Twitter is terrible. Yeah,

42:38

that's right. I really

42:40

got a bad taste in my mouth for all

42:42

this, which I know everyone's like, Jeff

42:45

recently, I guess, said somewhere

42:47

publicly that they're done

42:49

casting villains. They don't want to highlight

42:51

villains on the show like

42:53

they have in previous seasons. And

42:56

everyone was like, oh, and now everyone's

42:58

up, like everyone was up in arms about that.

43:00

But now everyone's up in arms that these people

43:03

are acting like villains. But I

43:05

don't even think it's villain behavior. I

43:07

think this was just like absolutely unnecessarily

43:09

mean spirited. Like they all had the

43:11

votes to vote Jess out and they

43:14

decided to do this weird ruse with

43:16

the fake idol. And they decided to

43:18

like intentionally take out their frustration of

43:20

all of them collectively losing the challenge

43:23

on her, like her fear of going

43:25

back to camp and being yelled at

43:28

by her team as an adult

43:30

who volunteered for a show, a

43:32

game show, basically, was like so

43:35

disappointing to me. I was like, I know

43:37

this is a game and it's ruthless and

43:39

you all get to live out this like

43:41

liar fantasy that we all have in like

43:43

our shadow versions of ourselves. Like

43:45

this is just like cruel

43:48

for no reason. Episode two,

43:50

episode two. I thought

43:53

of it less in people

43:55

trying to get their like villain mean

43:57

moment. And I thought of it more

43:59

as. they are all trying to

44:01

look smart. Yeah, so

44:03

exactly. So I don't think they

44:06

did that too embarrassed, Jess. I

44:08

feel like they did that because for

44:10

some reason in their version

44:13

they would look like they're outsmarting someone. Now the

44:16

problem is, is that they just didn't

44:19

think well first of all like you said it's episode

44:21

two. Like when a fake

44:23

idol is brought out and planted and

44:25

what not a couple things happen. One,

44:28

it's because they truly have

44:30

done all the back flip math

44:33

in their head to where if

44:35

one vote changes the fake idol

44:37

will be used and if they think they're

44:39

going home like there was no it was

44:41

pointless. It was absolutely pointless like you said.

44:43

Also, terrible looking fake idol. Even Jess herself

44:45

was like I don't think this is real

44:47

but how can you ever trust that instinct

44:49

when you're on the show? Exactly and when

44:51

Q is being like well I'll

44:54

take it back. I mean Q played

44:56

it right but I will say a fake

44:59

idol makes sense when

45:01

it's used to get someone out who's

45:03

so good they actually found the idol.

45:05

As opposed to this version they made

45:08

a fake idol and it's like I

45:10

don't think the girl who's literally being

45:12

directed to it and

45:14

still can't find it is the

45:16

one we need to like use this

45:18

play on. Like Jess is maybe the

45:20

most oblivious player I've ever seen on

45:22

this show. Yeah and so it's

45:25

like she is not the one. Like you use

45:27

it when you're like oh well this is this

45:29

is this person's last shot and we know like

45:31

we're in the last six. They're going to be

45:34

up all night looking for an idol. Let's plant

45:36

a fake one. Not second person

45:38

to go home and we're all voting for her

45:40

anyway. Right like you guys have the numbers. That's

45:42

what I didn't understand. Why do this pomp

45:44

and circumstance when you have the numbers

45:47

like this isn't clever. This isn't slick.

45:50

This is just reading really

45:52

like unfortunately mean. Also

45:55

there's one person and I can't remember who

45:57

it is on this season. wears

46:01

a necklace that's essentially

46:03

big idol beads. Like it's

46:05

uncomfortable. There's like squares. Venus.

46:08

Is it Venus? I think it's Venus. Yeah. It's like

46:11

that's a walking billboard for future

46:13

fake idols. Well they all they

46:15

all get like these beads like

46:17

at their camp or something and

46:20

so like they all like

46:22

the remember the previous season when like

46:24

yeah this one looks like a kindergarten

46:27

learner shapes tour. Yeah

46:29

it's a bit it's a bit much. Bonu

46:33

this episode. He looks

46:36

like Lula. Still looks like Lula.

46:38

He smeared his own blood on his forehead at one

46:40

point. That I was like what the hell on

46:42

this is just like a quick cutaway what the fuck is

46:44

going on there. Yeah

46:48

and then he just fully melted

46:50

down at tribal like full meltdown.

46:52

Again I see I

46:55

don't know what's happening but the

46:57

way that this Yannu tribe is playing

47:00

in like you know episode two

47:03

meltdowns and episode two

47:05

fake idols it makes me feel like

47:07

and I know it's not true

47:09

because everyone's a superfan it makes me feel like

47:11

someone was just shown three

47:13

best of episodes. Yeah

47:16

I mean like it was like oh I'm

47:18

gonna go on Survivor I've just watched

47:20

some compilations of big moves. Yes yeah like

47:22

big rousing speeches it's like a hundred percent.

47:24

Let's pace ourselves. Yeah

47:27

my note is like good Lord slow

47:29

down which I guess this is like

47:31

either quicker seasons. Hi Elliot. He

47:35

got off her coke downstairs

47:37

he said. Nice. We are

47:40

in Vegas. Yeah I was

47:43

like you guys got a slow down I know these are like expedited

47:46

seasons and faster seasons but like and

47:48

I know people have obviously their survivor

47:50

checklist and their bucket list of all

47:52

the things that they want to do

47:54

on the show but it feels now

47:56

like too fast like

47:59

it's not. It's not strategic. There's

48:01

nothing smart about or clever about it

48:03

Oh, why don't you take the energy

48:05

and the time that you spent making

48:08

a fake idol hiding it and Holding

48:11

Jess's hand to try to find it. Why don't

48:13

you spend that time looking for an actual idol?

48:16

Yeah. Yeah well, she has the

48:18

beware idol she does have the beware idol but

48:21

Oh that she can it can be turned into

48:24

a real one after they lose and they did

48:26

lose Yeah, I forget how

48:28

where we're at with that status. So does she have

48:30

an actual idol she might I

48:33

also love that when we got to

48:35

the challenge everyone was roasting Jelinski who

48:37

got boned off Like they kind

48:39

of held the arch Well, everyone

48:41

someone said what the guy on the other team

48:44

said last name first out. Yes I

48:47

was like, oh and I thought Twitter

48:49

being like I've never seen a player get roasted

48:51

by the entire cast Normally

48:54

you go. Oh who got sent home? I

48:56

I don't even know the people my

48:58

tribe's name yet. Everyone was like Look

49:04

him up on Instagram and see if he's

49:06

doing okay. I'm sure yeah, I'm

49:08

sure he's like selling survivor NFTs

49:10

or something He's got a I

49:13

mean if he's not selling several

49:15

means seven merch somewhere I

49:17

don't know what he's doing. He really made

49:19

a name for himself. Really? Absolutely Absolutely. Overall.

49:22

I'm like exactly what you said.

49:24

Let's slow down Yeah, that's

49:26

um, maybe let's form some like true

49:30

Kind of friendship alliances and like use

49:32

that as our strengths as opposed to

49:34

pulling out every Shocking

49:37

moment we can yeah,

49:39

I'm actually very excited to see this

49:42

team implode Yeah, like

49:45

now they've they removed Jess who I

49:47

did see did an interview where she said some

49:50

Version of my entire time

49:52

on survivor was a living nightmare

49:56

Perfect. She had the worst time ever.

49:58

She only ate ants She

50:00

never slept. Everyone was out to get her.

50:03

But even when she like formed a

50:05

tiny alliance, the second Kinsey turned, she

50:07

was two feet away from her and

50:10

she goes, let's vote her out. And that's where

50:12

I thought the tides were going to turn. I

50:14

thought the tides were going to turn, then it'd

50:16

be like these two wild cars, Jess and Bhanu

50:18

are going to get together and take out this

50:21

like mean girl right now. That'd be so satisfying

50:23

to watch. But now we get to see how

50:26

they handle each other. And Bhanu,

50:28

man, I'm rooting for him, but I'm

50:30

nervous about his mental health. Yeah,

50:33

I definitely am too. And

50:36

man, Bhanu, we'll just save the

50:38

speeches, buddy. Save the speeches.

50:42

These are the episodes where people should be going, wow,

50:44

this is very surreal to be here,

50:46

Jeff. Oh, I'm so excited. Just like

50:49

some like a little bit of levity.

50:51

Yeah. Y'all aren't that hungry yet. Yeah,

50:54

yeah. Well, I mean, it's what, day four,

50:56

I think, by the time they had done

50:58

that. Yeah, we'll see. Overall,

51:00

though, so fun, very excited. All

51:02

the competitions are cooking up.

51:04

Yes, they are. Vanderpump is meanwhile

51:07

on a very low simmer. Yeah.

51:11

And it might just, that just might be

51:13

the way the cookie crumbles this season. I

51:15

love that I'm like, how boring these people

51:17

are trying to save their mental health. I

51:20

know. Look at them all not

51:23

drinking and meditating. This

51:25

is not what I signed up

51:27

to watch. We'll tear each other

51:30

down, right? Oh, man.

51:32

OK, well, you have got some Coke

51:34

to be offered in the lobby. Yeah,

51:36

it's a Friday in Vegas. And

51:39

I go to get out of pajamas and

51:41

go entertain my stepmom. So

51:43

this was fun. And this

51:46

got real. Yeah, it did.