Kulap Vilaysack sits down with Deborah and Joel and shares her love for Janet Jackson’s The Velvet Rope. She explains how she escaped walkable Eagan, wound up in very un-walkable downtown LA and later found herself making out with her (yellow-tinted sunglasses sporting) future husband in his very drivable Camry (We don’t take any money from Toyota...but we will). We discover a brand new hilarious take on a very very important moment in Deb’s history we’ve discussed before. Sorry Deborah’s mom! Learn how nine-year-old Joel stunned his parents with his album pics when the whole Spence family decided to do that Columbia records eleven records for one penny thing. We discuss the joy of making playlists and current concert going strategy when one is in the...”current situation we’re all in.” Tune it to find out what that is! This Particular Song: “Firestarter” by the Prodigy and “Nightshift” by Lucy Dacus. Subscribe, Listen, Enjoy, Rate and Review please!