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1:17

We

1:28

have a big old movie that are available now

1:30

we're going to talk about. We're a week away from

1:32

the biggest game of the year. We're going

1:34

to talk a little bit about that. And there's so

1:37

much more.

1:37

That's right. We're going to be talking about games,

1:39

comics, books, toys, movies, TV, or

1:42

whatever you're excited about. Including New

1:44

York Comic Con this

1:46

week. Which, Ryan and I will also be there.

1:49

Yeah, but this week we

1:51

have a great interview later on in the show. Who'd you talk to?

1:54

I got to talk with Cindy Barwick about

1:56

the Marvel Terra Deck and Guidebook.

1:59

Which is absolutely amazing. Absolutely gorgeous. But

2:01

you know what? Don't take my word for

2:03

it. You can hear the full interview in just

2:05

a bit. Yes. And but as you mentioned,

2:07

New York Comic Con is in full swing

2:09

by the time everybody is starting to listen to this episode.

2:12

But you know, with New York Comic Con

2:14

happening, y'all can expect a ton

2:17

of news and exciting announcements throughout the

2:19

day and over the weekend. If you

2:21

want to keep track yourself, of course, you could stay

2:24

close to marvel.com slash NYCC, Marvel

2:26

social channels, get all the updates, the live streams,

2:28

all that jazz. We'll round it all up for

2:30

you next week here

2:33

on the show. So stay tuned for that. Y'all

2:35

can't see it, but I'm doing jazz hands right now.

2:38

Ryan. Yeah. If

2:40

you are going to be at the show, come to the Marvel

2:42

booth. Say hi to me. I've got some this

2:44

week of Marvel pins that I'm

2:46

a share. There's a lot of pins this year to

2:49

you can go to marvel.com slash NYCC. See

2:51

the full merch list if

2:53

you haven't already. But

2:55

you can spend your money there. Maybe you should

2:57

also be spending your money to get tickets for

3:00

Marvel Studios. Love Marvel. Oh,

3:03

I'm so ready.

3:04

Oh, Ryan, it's just about a month away. I've

3:07

been holding it in. I'm

3:09

very excited. The moment that I knew

3:11

that I was coming out the week of my

3:13

birthday, I was like, thank you

3:16

for this and this this wonderful

3:18

birthday gift. Marvel Studios of

3:20

putting Marvel Studios the

3:23

Marvels in theaters

3:25

November. You

3:32

can go get your tickets on Fandango or

3:34

wherever you get your advance tickets for

3:36

your movies. And

3:38

then Ryan next week is is one

3:41

of the biggest releases

3:43

of a video game.

3:47

Marvel's Spider-Man 2 releases

3:49

next Friday, October 20th, only

3:52

on PlayStation 5. Get excited,

3:54

get hyped. We're going to help catch you up on the

3:56

game next week. We're going to give our feelings.

4:00

So many feelings so

4:03

many feelings. I can't say anything more we're

4:05

gonna move on because

4:06

we can't say anything more Marvel

4:08

move let's move on. Yeah,

4:10

so this week in Marvel move we've

4:12

got the Final

4:15

episode of our three-part the Marvel series

4:17

the flurkin race series The

4:20

the big finale where you as

4:23

the runner team up with Captain Marvel, Ms Marvel

4:25

Monica Rambo and a very good flurkin named mr.

4:27

Fluffy pants to save the day

4:29

to bring a Couple

4:32

together to do some cool stuff to beat the bad guys

4:34

And this is this last part that released this week

4:37

is a virtual race and see their 5k or 10k You

4:39

can run it a bulk either ways whichever

4:42

you feel comfortable doing So

4:45

definitely please do all three episodes of

4:47

the Marvel's flurkin

4:48

race and if they do it before New York Comic

4:50

Con Even you know what

4:52

you could even do the episodes

4:55

while you're walking around New York Comic Con. Oh

4:58

Cuz it's set the first episode and part of

5:00

the second set in a convention center at

5:03

a superhero convention So it feels very

5:06

like part and parcel with with New York comments

5:08

like almost like we plan this Very

5:10

man. I love it. I know You

5:13

should come to the Marvel booth at 1 p.m. Each day

5:16

and show that you've done those races you get

5:18

a free exclusive pin See

5:20

a lot of pins in New York Comic Con a free

5:22

race bib and a race completion

5:25

certificate signed by The Marvel's

5:27

Captain Marvel, Ms Marvel and Monica.

5:30

It's real cool. Give you all that stuff for free Just

5:32

showing that you did it. It's delightful

5:36

Also this week we have episode 12

5:39

of Thor and Loki trials of the 10 realms got

5:41

trolls you got deadly birds You got a quest for

5:43

the dwarves. It's a lot of fun and normally

5:45

throughout the last you know, two

5:48

months we would put out the Thor

5:50

and Loki 5k training episodes, but we're holding

5:52

the final week of Our

5:55

5k trainer until next week and we're

5:57

gonna release them a little bit differently spread them out across

5:59

the week It's big, it's fun, it's

6:01

the gigantic culmination

6:03

of the epic. If you are running those episodes,

6:07

you know who the big bad is. I don't want to spoil it,

6:09

but it's real good times.

6:12

Speaking of dope things that could happen at

6:14

New York Comic Con, star

6:16

in an official Marvel's Avengers

6:18

comic to celebrate New York Comic Con. What?

6:21

Yeah. We

6:25

teamed up with Whatnot, and Whatnot will be giving

6:27

one fan the opportunity to be more

6:29

commercialized in their very own Marvel's Avengers

6:32

comic. The winner of this whole

6:34

thing gets to be on the cover alongside

6:36

Iron Man, Hulk, Captain America and more. Then the

6:39

book itself will get printed, released

6:42

in a limited collectible run with multiple

6:44

variants. It's going to have great

6:46

Marvel artists on it. Then

6:48

it's super cool. You'll be able to enter for

6:51

your chance to win on the Whatnot app

6:53

by going to the marketplace tab, clicking

6:55

on drops. You'll see the Marvel Whatnot

6:58

drop card. Just boom, enter it. It's

7:01

super duper cool because it's free to enter, but

7:03

you got to do it before October

7:05

15th. That's Sunday, October 15th

7:08

at 6 p.m. Eastern. That's

7:10

when you got to enter by in order to win. You get

7:12

the full rules and more info at marvel.whatsnot.com.

7:17

I may not be at New York Comic Con, but I

7:19

will be listening to women

7:21

of Marvel this week

7:24

because they are focusing on the one,

7:26

the only Emma

7:27

Frost. That's right. This

7:29

week, Ellie and Preeti are going to be talking about our favorite ice

7:32

queen. Yeah. On the show, it's super

7:34

cool because they have writer Leah Williams. We

7:36

love Leah. She's the best. Talking

7:39

to Leah about the Hellfire Gala and whether

7:42

Emma is a hero or a villain. They talk

7:44

to fashion expert, Dr. Valerie Steele

7:47

about Emma's clothes and sex positivity

7:49

and how that broadcasts power. This

7:51

is all good stuff. And this week,

7:53

we had season two, episode two of Marvel Studios'

7:56

Loki, of course, that released this week

7:58

as Chaos Within. the TVA, timelines

8:01

are just going to haywire or maybe

8:04

disappearing. I guess you got to make sure you

8:06

are watching the show every Thursday

8:09

only on Disney+.

8:11

There's some more Loki coming

8:15

your way. Well, for those of you who are in

8:17

California.

8:19

Yeah, I love how

8:21

they do this. So over at the

8:24

Avengers campus at Disney California

8:27

Adventure Park, every once

8:29

in a while you'll get some special limited time

8:31

appearances by Marvel

8:33

Cinematic Universe characters. So right

8:36

now, Loki and Obi slip

8:38

into Avengers campus for a limited time. The

8:40

TVA gets straight into the Avengers

8:43

campus. It's really, really

8:45

cool. We're going to get to see the two of them

8:47

at Avengers campus. Maybe

8:49

you've run into Loki, accompanied by

8:52

Orboros or Obi for short.

8:54

They're going to have a TVA handbook. They're going to

8:56

do some field work working on the timeline. I'm

8:59

sure like I can't wait to see the videos of

9:01

fans meeting them and interacting with them and

9:03

like throwing questions and like just

9:06

getting those moments at

9:09

Avengers campus. All right.

9:12

So before Ryan goes to New York Comic Con,

9:15

y'all have fun seeing him. That's

9:17

great. He's going to tell

9:19

us what the new comic picks are for this week.

9:22

Yeah.

9:24

New comics came out this week.

9:26

First pick I wanted was Amazing Spider-Man number 35,

9:30

which is the big culmination of the

9:33

Craven the Hunter arc with Queen Goblin and Norman

9:35

Osborn written by Zab Wells, art by Patrick

9:38

Gleason. And there's, you

9:40

know, we talked about feeling the feelings.

9:42

There's a lot of feelings in here. It's a great

9:45

timing because you've

9:47

got a Spider-Man who is sort of like in

9:49

this black costume in this comic

9:52

and he's he's

9:54

affected and he's fighting Craven. So you know

9:56

all the stuff that we've been talking about for Marvel Spider-Man 2. Whoo.

10:01

Yeah, there's, I there's so much I want to talk about with

10:03

this, this book, but it is big

10:05

Patrick Gleason's art is so motive and

10:08

dark and moody and cool and scary

10:10

at times, but that big superhero punch

10:13

up and then there's this splash page

10:16

of Spidey back to

10:18

like feeling that feel of

10:20

like gotta be a superhero pulling

10:22

the mask on with the sunlight

10:24

behind him. It is that's like put

10:27

that on a dang poster. Looks

10:30

good. Alright, moving on second

10:32

pick Avengers number six, which is

10:34

part four of City Killers where

10:37

this is this is the big one where the Avengers have turned

10:39

it around. And they're going after

10:42

the action combine these horrible,

10:44

horrible villains written by Jed Bekay

10:47

art by Yvonne Ferriorelli. And

10:49

this one they get a new headquarters

10:52

in this, they have

10:55

just like incredible hero moments, every

10:57

single Avenger has these big moments. There's

10:59

a new Avenger that that gets

11:01

to be part of the crew in this you get Thor calling

11:04

the lightning down you get scarlet witch

11:07

basically like clapping to

11:09

the side and like, like fighting

11:11

the fight in a really cool way. It's, it's

11:14

rad. This is going to be an excellent, excellent

11:16

bunch of issues to read all together in

11:18

collected form and then seeing where this

11:21

squad of Avengers goes from here. They

11:23

got a mission they got things to do. Also,

11:26

reminder, like Kang is just like

11:28

hovering above it all.

11:32

Third pick now I was torn between

11:34

Superior Spider Man returns, which

11:37

is fantastic and cap off and the howling

11:39

commandos.

11:40

And you went with cap

11:42

wolf and the howling commandos correct?

11:44

We are going with cap wolf and howling commandos

11:46

partially because they're both equally wonderful.

11:49

But I was reminded by producer Jasmine that

11:52

we have writer Stephanie Phillips on

11:54

the show next week. So

11:56

little tee up get everybody ready. Because it's

11:59

it's good. It is Captain America joining

12:02

Nick Fury and the Howling Commandos in a World

12:05

War II battle with art by Carlos Magno.

12:08

And it's rad. It's just good

12:12

World War II superheroes,

12:15

soldiers, banter,

12:18

Nazi punching, werewolves.

12:20

Thank

12:23

you. I just, you know, I have this feeling. I

12:25

don't think you said the name of the...

12:28

I don't know if you said the name of the comic right, Ryan.

12:31

Catwolf and the Howling

12:33

Commandos. Perfection. It

12:35

is good comic books. It is real

12:37

good comic books.

12:38

Make sure you're checking out

12:41

all of the cool books that are out this week,

12:43

because there are more than that. And all the cool books that are coming

12:45

out next week over at Marvel.com.

12:49

And get those on your pull list.

12:50

Yeah. Also, we should have all that stuff

12:52

in our show notes as well for you. But

12:55

that's comic stuff. Let's get into

12:57

something magical coming up. Our

12:59

chat with Sydney Baric. We'll be right back.

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Hey, you're listening to This Week in Marvel. I'm Ryan

14:14

Penagos.

14:15

And I'm Angelique Roche. Yo! Yo!

14:18

So I'm really excited because I got

14:20

a chance to talk to Cindy Barwick

14:23

about the work, not just

14:26

with the deck, but about

14:28

Terra in general and about the

14:30

guidebook and how the

14:32

guidebook helps you go through

14:34

each one of the cards, but also talks about

14:37

how to use the deck.

14:40

So, you know, enough from me. I'm not the

14:42

expert.

14:43

Let's hear my conversation with Cindy.

14:45

Hi. I'm

14:49

so excited because I'm here with Cindy

14:52

Barwick, who is basically

14:55

the mastermind behind,

14:58

I think, one of the coolest things Marvel has done

15:00

to date, which is the Marvel

15:02

Tarot and guidebook. Hi.

15:07

Hi, Angelique. How are you today?

15:10

I am good. I'm actually really excited

15:12

for folks who are fans

15:16

of Tarot and who are fans of Marvel. This is

15:18

like the perfect marriage, bringing

15:21

all of this amazing iconography

15:24

into

15:25

one of our favorite

15:27

spaces. But I kind of want to start

15:29

and take a step back for folks

15:32

who have never

15:35

picked up a Tarot deck,

15:38

who have only seen it in kind

15:39

of these mystical moments in movies or, you

15:43

know, this one time where someone's just like

15:45

throwing a card and it's

15:46

someone's fate. Can

15:49

you just give like a quick breakdown

15:53

of what

15:55

a traditional 78-card

15:57

Tarot deck is?

15:59

Yeah, so tarot is

16:02

split into major arcana and minor arcana.

16:07

And the major arcana cards really

16:10

are archetypes. They're

16:13

archetypes of humankind,

16:15

spirit, life's moments, while

16:20

the minor arcana really

16:21

address, oh,

16:24

you know, everyday occurrences

16:26

and the minor arcana are split,

16:29

it's split into four different suits.

16:31

Cups, wands,

16:34

swords, and pentacles, also

16:37

called coins.

16:39

Yeah, so that is a 50,000 foot view

16:42

of a

16:43

tarot.

16:47

So it feels like you're

16:48

extremely familiar with

16:50

tarot and you've been doing this for a minute.

16:53

I have.

16:54

So talk

16:57

to me a little bit about what got you into tarot and

17:01

why you feel like it's such, I mean,

17:04

I think it's in this beautiful

17:05

art form, but also

17:07

this amazing way to kind

17:09

of work

17:10

through life's decisions

17:11

and figure things out. But what was it

17:13

for you that drew you to this practice?

17:17

Well, I have been

17:19

on a spiritual journey for

17:21

decades.

17:24

And I'm trained

17:26

in a lot of different modalities,

17:30

different divination techniques,

17:34

I'm an interfaith minister.

17:40

I went to a

17:42

shaman school to train

17:44

to be in

17:46

shamanic techniques. And

17:49

that's really what,

17:52

you know, lift the fire for me because

17:54

I think, you

17:56

know, unless you are

17:58

hands on,

17:59

with a particular

18:02

path or modality. Until

18:05

your hands on and seeing

18:07

it

18:08

and seeing results, we're

18:11

seeing

18:12

spirit and motion almost.

18:16

It's hard to grasp.

18:17

But one of my

18:20

very first,

18:22

one

18:24

of my very first moments where

18:26

I thought, okay, there's,

18:30

I know I'm on the right path, is the

18:32

first time I went to a workshop

18:37

with a gentleman named Michael Harner, who

18:40

is now deceased. He founded the

18:42

Foundation for Shamanic Studies

18:45

and he

18:46

had this

18:48

weekend workshop

18:51

to train in

18:52

general shamanic principles. And

18:55

took us through a shamanic

18:58

journey

18:58

with rattles

19:00

and drumming.

19:02

And

19:04

that's really, you go on

19:06

a journey to the middle world or the lower

19:08

world and we

19:11

partnered up with somebody else, somebody who's

19:14

never met before.

19:15

And I was able to identify what

19:18

she did for a living, what

19:22

her physical ailments were, and the best

19:24

way to set off on the proper path.

19:28

And

19:31

when she was able to say, yes,

19:36

all of what you told

19:38

me was correct.

19:39

Like, okay, I know

19:40

I'm doing the right thing now. So I trained in feng shui

19:42

also and Caro was just, it

19:47

was a very, very, very, very,

19:49

very, very, very, it was a part of that.

19:53

Fast forward 30 years.

19:55

I

20:00

need to pretty much every day.

20:03

It's good

20:04

to set your course in the

20:06

morning

20:07

with a single card full. Use

20:10

it as a focus card. And

20:13

it's really a great guide

20:15

on how to

20:17

not conduct yourself during the day, but

20:20

how to deal

20:23

with any challenges that you might

20:25

face during the day. Like, how am

20:28

I going to handle this? Oh, OK. I pulled

20:30

this card this morning. Hey, I pulled the death

20:32

card today.

20:33

Cool. I'm not even sure why I did pull the death

20:35

card today. And we'll talk about it because

20:38

a lot of folks don't understand that not

20:40

every card is literal. When

20:43

you go into Terra, it is about interpretation.

20:46

But I am very curious, you know, for you,

20:48

what's your Marvel origin

20:50

story? Like, how did you get into

20:52

Marvel? Because you have to understand

20:55

a certain amount about the universe, and

20:57

you have to understand a certain amount about the characters

21:00

to kind of dig into building

21:04

a Terra

21:05

deck. Well,

21:07

so

21:09

I was brought in by

21:12

Rizzoli

21:12

and Marvel to

21:15

write the deck after the

21:17

fabulous Willie McDonald because

21:19

we can't have this conversation without mentioning

21:21

Lily. She's an amazing artist. And

21:24

the set, in case people haven't

21:26

seen the artwork, it

21:29

is an Art Nouveau style,

21:32

very much El Fon Smuka.

21:35

And Lily is just an

21:37

amazing artist. So everybody got to

21:39

pick

21:40

that up to take a look at Lily's

21:42

artwork. But I've been

21:44

in comics

21:46

truly for 30 years. So

21:49

I

21:49

always loved Marvel. So

21:52

when a friend of mine

21:54

recommended to Rizzoli,

21:59

should write this.

22:01

They asked me, I said, of course, of

22:03

course. And

22:06

that makes the guidebook a lot

22:08

different than other pop culture. Carol's

22:10

sets and guidebooks,

22:13

it is a little bit meatier, and

22:16

it does really blend

22:18

the character

22:22

with how the character represents

22:24

that particular card. And

22:26

the cards, you know, I love the fact that in

22:28

the book, there's like these

22:30

beautiful quotes that represent who the character

22:33

is, that like sets up going

22:35

into the interpretation of the cards

22:38

and breaking down why this

22:41

character was there, why this

22:43

character really represents what

22:45

this card represents before

22:47

it goes into, all right,

22:50

was it upright or was it reversed? How

22:52

does this really go into your reading?

22:55

And so for you, what kind of research

22:57

did you really have to do? Because you've been in comics for

22:59

a while, but this is really in

23:01

depth. And when you talk about

23:04

you're bringing in some quotes

23:06

from across the

23:09

Marvel Universe and across

23:11

decades. I also

23:13

have to say

23:15

Spider-Man and Mary Jane as the lovers.

23:17

Shout out to Lily. It's

23:19

just beautiful. You know,

23:22

what kind of research did you really have to do to kind

23:24

of make sure you felt like

23:26

you were getting this just right?

23:29

Yeah, a lot of research actually, especially

23:31

with the quotes. So I worked,

23:34

you know, I did

23:35

a very basic outline, and then I started

23:37

filling the outline in. And as I said,

23:42

I wanted to make it, I wanted to

23:44

make this guidebook different than other pop

23:46

culture guidebooks. So

23:49

that's where the quotes

23:51

came in. So when I talked

23:54

to

23:55

the publishers about doing

23:57

that,

23:58

yeah, let's do it. Cool.

23:59

So I

24:02

really looked at a lot of different

24:04

quotes. And

24:08

I ran, you know, we ran everything past

24:10

Marvel, of course, and everybody,

24:13

you know, had their input.

24:14

So

24:17

yeah, some quotes we went back and

24:19

forth with, but that took a

24:21

little while, but I, as you said,

24:23

Angelique, I wanted to make sure

24:26

that the quote represented the

24:29

character and also the spirit

24:31

of the card

24:32

as well.

24:33

So it took a while, it

24:35

took a while.

24:36

So for you, I think you've kind

24:38

of broken down a little bit about what Terra

24:40

means for you and how you've integrated that

24:42

practice into your life, but for folks

24:44

who are just getting acclimated,

24:47

or again, who may have just seen some

24:50

of the tropes, some of the stereotypes, what

24:52

do you think people and skeptics

24:54

get wrong about Terra

24:56

and Terra readings?

24:58

Oh my God. Well, first of

24:59

all, I think

25:02

people go, oh my God, it's Terra, I'm

25:04

scared.

25:05

No, don't be scared.

25:07

Secondly is, oh my God, Terra is so

25:10

complicated. No, not really.

25:12

I mean, it has rules,

25:14

rules where

25:16

I should say guidelines, guidelines

25:19

of what each of the cards represent,

25:22

you know, whether it's major or minor, but

25:25

each card is subject to interpretation.

25:28

And that's really the spirit of Terra, because

25:32

again, it acts as a

25:34

guide post.

25:38

Each card acts as,

25:39

you know, your hand-in-hand guide to

25:42

that day

25:44

or just advice.

25:46

It's like, I'm

25:48

just talking to yourself, but

25:50

really it's tapping into your inner self,

25:53

but

25:53

like just

25:57

the one spirit also. Like

26:00

the universal spirit. So I

26:03

do think everybody's connected. Um,

26:06

so

26:09

You know there there's that too so

26:12

Yeah, you can be waiting for yourself.

26:14

You can be waiting for somebody else, but there's

26:16

always gonna be

26:18

that moment where you go Yeah,

26:21

yeah, I can see I can see how this

26:23

affects me or I can see how this

26:25

affects anybody else, too

26:27

so I'm

26:29

really curious because in

26:31

looking at the book. I'm starting to get this beautiful

26:34

preview of the

26:37

minor arcana and just look

26:39

it's Squirrel

26:41

girl has a card How

26:44

did I go about deciding

26:48

What characters are used because of course

26:50

you've got the major arcana

26:52

which you know, I see you Moon

26:55

Knight, you know galactus

26:58

low-key You got some really

27:00

hard hitters, but you know, the Marvel

27:02

Universe is pretty large And so, you

27:05

know when we get into the minor I start

27:07

seeing a little bit of Jane Foster's

27:09

helmet We've got a couple different

27:12

ones in here, you know

27:13

Luke Cage

27:15

and Iron Fist like what were

27:18

the decisions?

27:20

Kind of looking at what

27:22

Characters were going

27:24

to be the perfect fit. I

27:27

think everybody had their own ideas Some

27:29

some were more obvious

27:31

than others like dr. Strange

27:34

the magician Yeah, there

27:36

was no debate on that same thing with Deadpool

27:38

cool. No debate fair, you know

27:40

I don't think you know, there were a lot

27:43

of a

27:44

Lot of those instances

27:46

other instances we we actually created

27:48

a grid I should say Ellie Johnson the

27:51

associate or assistant

27:53

editor at

27:56

Rizzoli she created a grid for everybody

27:58

and

27:59

you know, that's how we plotted everything

28:02

out.

28:02

And, you

28:04

know, once we did, everybody had input.

28:06

I did,

28:08

Jess and Lily did, Ellie

28:10

did, and of

28:12

course the folks at Marvel. So

28:15

we all work as this amazing

28:17

team. And so I,

28:20

you know, it wasn't,

28:22

I can't take the credit.

28:24

We're the blame. For

28:28

any characters or symbology,

28:30

it really was

28:32

a group effort. And yeah, and some,

28:37

you know, some cards were easier to

28:39

write than

28:40

others. You

28:42

know, for me, when I was writing

28:45

the

28:45

suit, a sword, it was

28:48

painful

28:50

because

28:51

you're a tarot

28:53

user.

28:53

And anybody who uses

28:56

tarot knows that the

28:58

sword

28:58

suit is

29:00

pretty depressing. It's pretty,

29:03

you know, it's

29:05

sharp, you know, it's pointy. That's

29:07

what it is. It's cut and it's painful.

29:11

So yeah,

29:13

that was tough. That was

29:16

probably

29:16

the toughest

29:20

suit

29:20

that I wrote. Yeah.

29:23

You know, and I love that

29:25

you painstakingly went

29:28

through and made sure it was

29:31

amazing. Also never going

29:33

to be upset when

29:35

the star is Monica

29:38

Rambo

29:38

ever in life. So

29:41

I'm curious, I got to know somebody

29:44

gets this deck. It's in this beautiful,

29:47

beautiful, beautiful packaging.

29:51

It's just absolutely gorgeous

29:53

and detailed. Again, I

29:55

want to say it's a 78 card tarot

29:57

deck. It comes with

29:59

this gorgeous guy.

29:59

It's got so

30:01

many characters in it. There's a decorative

30:04

gift

30:04

box.

30:05

They pull it out of the gift

30:06

box.

30:08

They do their shuffle. They

30:10

mix it around. They ask their

30:12

question.

30:14

What do they do next?

30:16

So this is what I do. So, you

30:19

know, instead of just, you know, ripping

30:21

up in the cellophane and opening the box, you

30:24

know, you really have to sit in

30:27

a quiet place, center

30:29

yourself,

30:30

and go through

30:32

the entire

30:36

sort of inner

30:39

chakra journey. But what I like

30:41

to do is wake up the cards.

30:43

You need to knock on the cards a few

30:45

times. I put

30:48

it to my forehead

30:50

and to my heart

30:52

and, you know, to my abdomen.

30:54

And

30:55

that's when you can start, you

30:57

know, and then you can shuffle.

31:00

You know, you divide everything, mix

31:03

them up again, and then just sit.

31:06

Just sit, you know, don't be in

31:08

a rush.

31:09

Spread them out in front of you.

31:12

And then

31:13

what I do, I hold my hands

31:16

above the cards

31:17

and just go back and forth.

31:20

And for

31:23

first-time

31:23

users or maybe novices,

31:27

you know, if you feel like tingling in

31:29

your fingertips or feet

31:31

in your palms, it's

31:33

really not your imagination.

31:35

Something's calling to you and don't

31:37

ignore it. So

31:40

pull that card. And if

31:42

it's a one-card pull, awesome. If

31:44

it's not, if you're using one of the spreads

31:46

in the book,

31:50

you know, do that and be really

31:52

thoughtful. When you're doing it prior

31:54

to

31:55

that, you really

31:57

have to.

31:59

focus in on the issue

32:02

at hand for

32:03

the question.

32:05

And really, really concentrate and be

32:07

thoughtful about it.

32:09

And that's when you

32:11

keep the quote.

32:13

I love it. I love it. This is amazing.

32:17

Well, I am so excited for folks to pick

32:19

up this book and pick up this deck,

32:21

open it up. I'm encouraging everybody

32:24

when they get it, take pictures,

32:27

tag us. Let

32:29

us know what your favorite cards are. I mean,

32:31

do you have a favorite card?

32:34

I do. It

32:36

really is the death card.

32:37

It really is the

32:39

death card.

32:43

And that's what I pulled today,

32:46

which is pretty cool. And it's

32:48

Jean Grey Phoenix. And I think

32:50

when people look at the death card, they go,

32:52

oh my god, the death card. I'm doomed.

32:55

And it's not that at all. It's really

32:58

about

32:58

transformation and change.

33:00

So if you pull the death

33:03

card as

33:04

a single card, as

33:06

part of your spread, whatever

33:08

you're doing,

33:09

that's what it is. Change is a common.

33:12

And that's what change

33:14

is common, whether you want it to or not.

33:18

So this

33:19

is giving you a heads up. Hi.

33:21

We're going to heads up.

33:22

I'm here. Yeah. And it's coming. So

33:26

get on board with it and

33:28

be a part of it or don't. And

33:32

if you decide not to, it's going to

33:34

hurt. So just

33:37

go along with it and see what you can

33:39

do to

33:41

move along with it. Just flow with

33:43

it. But

33:44

death card is always really exciting.

33:46

Well, for those who are picking

33:49

this up, you can

33:51

go into this

33:53

amazing guidebook. There's an introduction. There's an

33:55

understanding. The deck, the suit,

33:58

it does break down care.

33:59

and preparing for readings,

34:01

and a little

34:03

bit of some of the breakdowns

34:06

of the different polls that you can do here as

34:08

well. And

34:11

so, because I know it breaks down at least

34:13

the one card, the three card, the

34:16

five card, and

34:20

the six

34:21

card poll in the book.

34:23

So

34:24

I encourage everybody to

34:26

go pick this up. This is absolutely wonderful. Thank

34:28

you so much for being

34:31

on This Week in Marvel.

34:33

Thank you. I really

34:35

appreciate it, and I hope everybody loves

34:37

the tarot set.

34:42

That was Cindy Barwick. The Marvel Tarot

34:44

Deck and Guidebook are available now wherever

34:46

books are sold. They are gorgeous.

34:50

Well, I think it's that time again,

34:53

Ryan

34:53

Penagos.

34:54

It is time for Community, AKA

34:57

This Week in Messages.

34:58

Now, I mentioned our guest

35:00

next week is going to be Stephanie Phillips, coming

35:03

on to chat about Cap Wolf, which

35:05

is going to be very good. But right now, we're

35:08

going to be coming out of New York Comic Con, so

35:10

I thought a fun thing for us, for

35:12

y'all listening, will

35:15

be the question of the week could be, what

35:17

Marvel Comics news coming out of New York Comic Con

35:19

are you most hyped for? Oh,

35:22

I'm excited. Make sure you're

35:24

checking out everything that's coming out of New York Comic Con,

35:26

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35:31

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35:36

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please make sure you tell us if it is OK

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to read Twim

35:48

on the show. All right, like

35:51

you did this week, because last week's

35:53

question of the week, which y'all answered was, which

35:55

Marvel character would you like to receive a tarot

35:57

reading from? So. First

36:01

up was Overlord of underscore

36:03

evil who said first choice Agatha

36:05

Harkness, runner-up, Scarlet Witch. Solid,

36:09

solid choices. Cardona

36:11

Cecile at Cardona Cecile.

36:14

Loki, I would like to receive a tarot

36:17

reading from Loki. With his power

36:19

he could see inside my mind as clear as

36:21

day. His tarot reading would be so

36:23

interesting, intense, insane, deeply

36:25

touching, maybe funny,

36:27

smiley face. Wow,

36:30

all right, there was a bunch of

36:32

Loki of course in there. I think the

36:34

time is right. WWU Stacey

36:36

Strong NXT at SJB479

36:39

said simply Spider-Man but they

36:42

also used an animated gif of Spider-Man

36:45

laying saucyly on the train tracks

36:48

from the 60s animated series. As soon

36:50

as I say it you know exactly what I'm talking about.

36:52

One of the greatest gifs is all time. So A

36:54

plus right there. Christie

36:57

at Eurydices said Gambit

36:59

from that time in X-Men number 164

37:01

when he lost his sight and could read his cards

37:04

like tarot cards. I would be very

37:06

interested in sitting in front of a

37:08

pensive brooding Gambit for a

37:10

few minutes. Just

37:13

a few minutes? Just

37:15

a few minutes? Yeah shout out to Forte

37:18

Forte at Forte underscore Forte who

37:20

also said Gambit.

37:22

Yeah because he's

37:24

that dude. All right so emails

37:27

from wonderful listener Heather

37:29

and the fam. Hey Heather and

37:31

fam. As an aside

37:34

the marble loving which is so stoked

37:37

someone is making marble tarot

37:39

cards. The oracle cards are good.

37:41

I use them weekday mornings to

37:43

do a daily card pull.

37:46

Yep but to have a full

37:48

major and minor arcana deck is next

37:50

level. The swords as Wolverine's

37:53

claws I mean perfect. Now

37:55

I have to play Midnight Suns for a third

37:57

time and recollect all those tarot cards.

37:59

to compare

38:01

which major arcana matches with the

38:03

deck and the game and what a deck

38:06

to introduce the institution

38:09

of reading these archetypes to

38:11

new and young witches chefs

38:14

kiss yours in Marvel and

38:16

Magic Heather Fiona and no

38:18

one I

38:19

love it the best

38:21

over on Facebook I want to give a shout out

38:23

to Caleb Cinque money

38:25

who says they're the biggest fan of the show thank

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you Caleb Caleb's big fan of adventures

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and spider-man thank you for listening now read some comics

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Caleb read some comics

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but in the meantime Ryan I think

38:36

we've run out of track

38:37

we did this episode of this week of Marvel

38:39

is produced by Jasmine Strada Isabelle Robertson Ryan

38:41

Penagos and Angelique Rocher our senior manager

38:44

audio production development is Brad Barton

38:46

Emily Godfrey is our production man

38:48

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