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Hello Marvelites! You're listening

1:13

to This Week in Marvel, episode number 617. I'm

1:16

Ryan Penagos, aka Agent M. And

1:18

I'm rolling solo this week, giving

1:21

love and shouts to our pals Angelique

1:23

Roche and James Monroe Iglehart. They

1:25

couldn't be with me, but the show goes

1:28

on because this is the official Marvel podcast where we get

1:30

to talk about all things happening this

1:32

week in Marvel. That's right, we're going to

1:34

talk about games, comics, movies, books, TV. We

1:36

also

1:38

have a Marvel Insider Code. But

1:40

most importantly, this

1:42

week we are talking to the

1:44

co-writers of the upcoming Ms.

1:47

Marvel, the new mutant comic, Iman

1:49

Vellani and Sabur Perzada. It's

1:51

a good-ass book, y'all, and you're

1:53

going to hear that full interview in just a little

1:55

while. Right now, though, let's get into

1:57

some news.

2:02

First up this week is the launch

2:04

of Marvel Snap on PC. It's

2:06

official, it's here, it's happening. You can download

2:08

it now, you can play it like everybody

2:11

on mobile's been playing it to their hearts

2:13

content for such a long time. Some

2:16

very cool stuff. There's some other

2:18

fun stuff going on for Marvel Snap this week

2:20

because it's Gamescom over in

2:22

Cologne, Germany. I know Ben

2:25

Brode, who's the big creative lead

2:27

on the project. He's out there. Some fun

2:29

stuff. It's real cool.

2:31

This month is also, this whole season has been

2:34

the quote unquote big in Japan

2:36

season, which is really mostly just like tied to

2:38

Wolverine. So we've had great new characters like

2:41

X 23, Lady Deathstrike, Silver Samurai. It

2:44

is super fun times right now. So

2:46

of course, download Marvel Snap on

2:48

PC now.

2:51

Speaking of awesome things

2:53

that you can download, Marvel Move

2:56

is launching next week, you guys. I know

2:58

you've heard it. August 30th is when you will

3:00

be able to download Marvel Move on

3:02

iOS and Android. I will

3:05

be talking about it next week with writer,

3:07

Teenie Howard, who is the writer of our big

3:09

giant amazing X-Men

3:12

series. We'll talk about it a whole bunch more

3:14

next week. Again, Marvel Move launching August

3:17

30th.

3:17

Now let's get into some comic book news,

3:20

starting with Spider-Gwen smash.

3:23

This was previously announced at San

3:25

Diego Comic Con as Spider-Gwen on

3:27

tour. This is the series written by Melissa

3:30

Flores with art by Anid Balam

3:32

and covers by David Nakayama. It's

3:35

a four shoe limited series in which Gwen,

3:38

our favorite Spider-Gwen, she's

3:40

on her Earth 65 and her native

3:42

universe.

3:43

And she's going out on tour with

3:46

the Mary Janes. It's going to be big. It's

3:48

going to be fun. We actually had a conversation with

3:50

Melissa coming up for you in the next couple

3:53

of weeks, which was really

3:55

delightful. This is going to release this December.

3:57

So you got a little ways to go, but.

3:59

excited.

4:02

Another thing you should get excited about is Star Wars Visions,

4:05

Peach Momoko. It's a new

4:07

number one and it's going to let

4:09

Peach just go ham on

4:11

the Star Wars universe. Is that a term? Yeah, that's a term,

4:14

going ham. This is coming out in November

4:16

and it's going to be three one shots

4:19

where we get to see Peach

4:21

do her amazing storytelling, really

4:25

vivid, beautiful imagination, doing

4:27

different tales, utilizing

4:29

the Star Wars characters

4:32

and universe, but totally making it

4:35

very much her own. So this brings a whole bunch of

4:37

new characters and a whole different

4:39

vibe to Star Wars. It's

4:42

going to be very cool. Again, Star Wars Visions,

4:44

Peach Momoko, number one on sale November

4:47

15th.

4:48

More Star Wars news for you. Star

4:51

Wars High Republic phase three. This

4:53

is just like sort of following up

4:55

on what's going on. We are bringing

4:57

back Star Wars, the High Republic. This

4:59

is going to start with a year after

5:02

the destruction of Starlight Beacon. You've

5:04

got March in Row and the Nile

5:06

standing victorious. Dun, dun, dun. The

5:08

galaxy is in turmoil. The once mighty

5:11

Jedi are outclassed. The Republic is

5:13

on its knees. You've got

5:15

Jedi Master Kiv Trennis leading a desperate

5:18

assault against

5:18

an invading force. The odds against

5:20

her, but a Jedi always clings

5:23

to hope. Dun, dun, dun. Some

5:26

fun twists and turns coming with this one. Star Wars,

5:28

the High Republic, number one, beginning of phase three,

5:31

written by Kevin Scott with art by Ariel

5:33

Anandito and covers by the

5:35

goat Phil Nodoh coming this November. All

5:38

right, more comic stuff because Blade co-creator

5:40

Marv Wolfman is returning to Marvel Comics

5:42

horror in What If Dark? Tomb

5:44

of Dracula number one. I saw this come

5:46

through. I got hella freaking excited.

5:48

This is coming out in November. You got Marv

5:51

Wolfman along with artist David Cutler doing

5:53

a new What If Dark tale where

5:56

Blade gets transformed by

5:58

Dracula.

5:59

Of course, you've

6:02

got Marv Wolfman, who just did such

6:04

incredible work on the tomb of Dracula

6:06

years ago. He introduced Dracula to the

6:08

Marvel Universe, co-created Blade, and

6:11

the daughter of Dracula, Lilith Drake.

6:14

Now we're decades later from that, he's

6:16

coming back to this work with this

6:18

new story that asks the question,

6:20

What if the legendary Dracula

6:22

transformed Blade the Vampire Slayer into

6:26

a vampire? Look,

6:28

I'm a sucker for a good what if. I

6:30

love a good what if question. Everything

6:32

hinging on that stuff. This is

6:34

gonna do it. We got a beautiful

6:37

main cover by Giuseppe Comiccoli. What

6:39

if Dark Tomb of Dracula coming out November

6:41

8th? It's gonna be super

6:43

cool to have Marv Wolfman coming back to tell

6:46

more stories with these characters.

6:48

Now, do you like books? Do

6:50

you like art? How about art books?

6:53

Because the Art of Eternals is out now. If

6:55

you are a fan of Marvel Studios Eternals, you can

6:57

get the whole behind-the-scenes visual development smorgasbord

7:01

of the film in Marvel Studios

7:04

Eternals The Art of the Movie, which is on

7:06

sale now. It's got tons and tons of exclusive

7:08

concept artwork, in-depth interviews

7:11

with a creative team. It's

7:14

just gorgeous. Seeing the concept

7:16

art of Celestials,

7:18

The Eternals, sort of the big scale and

7:20

scope of that film

7:23

is really, really wonderful. You can get a preview of

7:25

the book over on Marvel.com, and

7:27

then you can check out your copy of Marvel

7:30

Studios Eternals The Art of the Movie from

7:32

wherever you get fine books.

7:36

Here's a piece of news that surprised

7:38

and delighted, I think, a ton of people

7:41

this week because Marvel Studios

7:43

WandaVision and Marvel Studios Loki season 1

7:46

coming to 4k Ultra HD

7:48

and Blu-ray! This is super

7:51

cool. These two awesome series from Marvel

7:53

Studios are going to be available on collector's edition 4k

7:56

Ultra HD and Blu-ray, which

7:59

is really cool. Everybody I think a lot more

8:01

people are getting into having physical tangible

8:04

media for the shows that they love and these

8:06

are gonna have really cool steelbook packaging

8:09

concept art cards and Never

8:12

before seen bonus features Those

8:14

are all wonderful reasons to go out and pick this up each

8:16

title will be available nationally on blu-ray

8:19

steelbook with cohesive and collectible

8:21

brand-new box art designed by

8:23

popular artist Attila Zarka and

8:25

Collectible concept art cards

8:28

and you won't have to wait very long for

8:30

either of these Marvel Studios Loki the complete first season

8:33

Releases September 26th of this

8:35

year and Marvel Studios Wanda vision the complete series

8:37

releases November 28th of this year Both

8:40

of them will be available for pre-order next

8:42

week. That's Monday, August 28th. Get ready Make

8:46

sure you secure your copies of those

8:49

You know what you should also do secure your copies

8:51

of some great new comic books There are some there

8:54

are a lot of really good books this week So new

8:56

comics on sale at your local comic shop or

8:59

through I find digital retailer

9:01

that you may may use I

9:04

Look, I'm alone. I'm picking five books.

9:07

Nobody can stop me Captain America finale

9:09

number one wraps up the big amazing

9:12

storyline by Jackson

9:14

Lansing and Colin Kelly and Carmen Carnero.

9:16

It is It's wonderful. It

9:19

just wraps things up It gives you a lot of Steve

9:21

and Bucky and other big feelings

9:24

It's got a kitty cat going wild

9:26

not the first time a kitty cat will go wild this

9:28

week. It is Terrific. We've

9:31

got Deadpool number 10 this week, which is

9:33

the final issue by

9:34

Alyssa Wong and Luigi Zagaria Which

9:37

is it's a little bit of a heartbreak

9:39

a little bit of a big rara Hoot

9:42

and holler and fun times. There's a

9:44

lot of really filthy like

9:46

Subtle jokes in here that I

9:49

absolutely loved it is laugh out loud

9:51

funny. It is a great romance book It is

9:53

exceptionally violent one of our favorites.

9:55

This tennis you run has been one of my all-time favorite

9:58

Deadpools I put it up there with some

9:59

Jerry Duggan written Deadpool. So that's

10:02

saying a lot. Then

10:04

another pick is Immortal Thor, number

10:07

one. This is a banger of

10:09

a first issue written by Al Ewing, with art

10:11

by Martin Coquillo and colors

10:13

by Matthew Wilson.

10:15

Al has a little letter at

10:17

the end about how he first got into

10:19

Thor as a kid, and he'd like to see Thor

10:22

smile, which I think is such a cool thing.

10:25

We've gotten all these broody,

10:28

dark, very intense Thor stories. This is

10:31

very intense. There's Thor fighting something

10:33

bigger than most things.

10:35

It's like giant planet-destroying

10:38

level type things. But he's

10:41

happy, and he's reveling in

10:43

the possibility of goodness, even

10:46

despite the face of

10:49

all the terror and the hardships he's come

10:51

across. There's some gorgeous big,

10:53

big double page spreads, full page

10:55

spreads by Martin in this issue.

10:59

If you liked Al Ewing's Immortal

11:01

Hulk, you are going to love Immortal

11:03

Thor. That is almost

11:06

a promise. I don't promise anything.

11:08

We've got Jean Grey, number one, which is one of

11:10

our fall of X titles. I heard much

11:13

love about Jean Grey from numerous people,

11:15

and it lived up to it. There's kind of a

11:18

sort of almost what if vibe

11:20

to it, but it's not a what if, and it

11:22

sort of goes in different directions and it opens

11:25

up a lot of questions. It is written by Louise

11:28

Simonson, one of the greats,

11:30

which is really cool. It's art by Bernard Chang,

11:32

colors by Marcelo Maiolo, and

11:35

it is beautiful. There's this double page spread early

11:37

in the book

11:38

where just scenes of Jean's life

11:40

that I stared at for quite a long

11:42

time. I don't want to give anything away

11:45

because this is a fall of X title, but this

11:47

does have a lot of twists and turns

11:50

in it. But yeah,

11:52

it's really good. Also, the new Jean Grey logo

11:54

that's on the cover is a banger.

11:57

It's really, really nice. Go check that out. The

11:59

big. surprise. The one that I did

12:01

not know was going to be one of my favorite

12:03

comics of the year is Marvel Unleashed

12:07

number one. If you are a fan

12:09

of the Pet Avengers, this is not the Pet Avengers,

12:12

but it

12:13

lives in that spirit. This is written

12:15

by Kyle Starks with art by Jesus Rivas

12:18

and colors by yeah, Nitro. And

12:20

this brings together a bunch of animal

12:24

characters. So in that Pet Avengers vibe,

12:27

going on an adventure, essentially. And

12:29

this issue opens with Lockjaw getting

12:32

captured by Craven the Hunter and it

12:34

spins out from there. We are introduced to a

12:36

new character named D-Dog.

12:38

I would do anything for D-Dog.

12:40

My favorite new character. She is incredible.

12:43

This book made me laugh out loud numerous

12:45

times. It literally made me cry.

12:47

I've lost two cats to

12:50

bad illnesses in the last year

12:53

in like two months. It

12:54

destroyed me.

12:56

But at the same time, I like one page before I was

12:58

laughing out loud. One page later I was laughing out

13:00

loud. It is everything

13:03

I want out of a wonderful comic.

13:05

It has got beautiful characters.

13:07

Redwing in here, the Falcon or Captain

13:11

America's Falcon is

13:15

incredible. Incredible.

13:17

And you've got Chewy, the Flurken,

13:19

you've got D-Dog, you've got a whole bunch of other characters.

13:22

Lucky, Pizza Dog, and many,

13:24

many more. Honestly, my

13:26

hands down my number one pick

13:28

of the week. Said it. Can't take it back. That's

13:32

that. That's too many picks of the week, but whatever.

13:35

Also, a couple other things to note. Contest

13:37

of Chaos continues in the Fantastic Four annual.

13:40

Invincible Iron Man has lots of Tony Stark and

13:42

Emma Frost, which sets up the big wedding stuff

13:44

coming really soon. And in Amazing Spider-Man,

13:47

stuff is popping off. If you are excited about

13:49

Craven and want to see

13:51

a different side of Spidey, that's the issue to

13:53

check out in Amazing Spider-Man number 32. So lots

13:55

of great comics this week, but we've

13:57

got to talk about another great comic coming.

13:59

next week very soon as we

14:02

talk with Aman Vellani and Sabir Perzada.

14:04

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Hey, we're back. You are listening to This Week in

15:49

Marvel. I'm Ryan Penagos. I'm

15:51

alone this week, but not for long

15:53

because coming up, we have the co-writers

15:56

of the new Ms. Marvel, the new

15:58

mutant series, Emon Valas.

15:59

and Sabur Prazada. Let's talk

16:02

with them about getting into comics, writing

16:04

this new chapter for Kamala Khan and

16:06

so much more. ["The

16:11

New Mutant Hi,

16:17

I'm on. Hi. And Sabur

16:19

Prazada, hello, Sabur. Hello. Very

16:22

exciting. Got a lot to talk about. But first things first,

16:24

what are your Marvel origin stories? How

16:26

did you first become fans of the Marvel

16:29

characters? Iman, let's start with you.

16:31

Oh, god. Where

16:33

to begin? I mean, I have an older

16:35

brother, and he likes to take credit for

16:37

everything that I do and have interest in. But

16:40

I will not give him that pleasure. I

16:42

like to think I just strolled into a comic

16:44

bookstore one day and fell in love with

16:46

these characters. I mean, obviously, the MCU had a big part of

16:48

it, and I had a huge crush on Robert Downey

16:51

Jr. And I was like, I need more Iron

16:53

Man. And then I accidentally picked up Iron

16:55

Heart.

16:56

And then I fell in love with

16:58

Bendis. And then I saw Kamala in one

17:00

of the covers, and I fell in love with her.

17:03

And then I just read every single issue

17:05

I can get my hands on. I dressed up as her on

17:07

Halloween. That was like a

17:09

very big part of my life. And I protected this character

17:11

with everything I had because no one

17:14

knew who she was. And so,

17:16

yeah, now I'm here three years

17:18

later. And life is a little crazy. And

17:21

I get to write characters I fell in love with. So

17:24

how cool is that? It's frickin'

17:26

cool as heck. Cyber, how about you?

17:29

So the first comic

17:31

I ever read was a Marvel comic. And it was

17:33

a team up between Spider-Man, Storm, and

17:35

Luke Cage. And the villain

17:38

was named Smokescreen. And

17:40

the message of the comic was, don't smoke.

17:42

And I never have. It just really made an

17:44

impression on me. It was my introduction to both

17:47

Marvel and comics and was the beginning of a

17:49

lifelong obsession, which I sort of built

17:52

on when I visited my cousin in India

17:54

when they had rolling blackouts there in Mumbai. So

17:57

there was really nothing to do but read his comic

17:59

book.

17:59

He had all these amazing Silver

18:02

Age comics and so I dug into all

18:04

of those and then probably started

18:06

my own collection after that.

18:07

That is awesome. So in the 12 years

18:10

I've been doing this show, the 17 years

18:13

I've been at Marvel, you're the first person

18:15

who said their introduction to Marvel was

18:17

one of our PSA comics because we did a ton

18:20

of those. Spider-Man tries to tell

18:22

you not to like walk on the railroad tracks

18:24

or like eat glass or whatever it is. We

18:27

have a ton of those. So bless you for

18:29

bringing that to the show. I love that. So

18:33

you two are obviously huge fans and you're engulfed

18:35

and now you're in the Marvel universe working

18:37

on these characters in the comics. What

18:40

are you guys currently reading? What are your go-to books,

18:42

your

18:42

stories, the things that like, you know, either

18:44

it's a comfort thing or like you got to be

18:46

there to get it when a new issue comes out?

18:49

I mean, my like

18:52

comfort story is right now our Silver Surfer,

18:55

that whole parable

18:56

omnibus is like kind of awesome.

18:59

Heck yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

19:02

A lot of good Steve Engelhardt. Outside

19:04

of Marvel, Paper Girls started

19:07

that. Pretty good. Yeah. Real

19:10

good. For me, it's anything X-Men. I'm

19:12

there. Kind of always been there. That

19:14

was sort of the first major obsession I

19:16

had within the Marvel universe. So

19:19

I mean, I think you guys

19:21

are in a good spot then telling Ms.

19:23

Marvel's story as she enters mutant kind.

19:26

So I'm on you're obviously like a giant

19:28

fan of comics and of Marvel prior

19:31

to this professional experience and when you were talking about you were checking

19:33

out these books and your brother was that

19:35

fandom a solitary thing? Did you have

19:37

a broader community? Was it you and your brother? Was

19:40

it your family, your friends? Like

19:42

what is that building? Because obviously

19:44

comics is such an important part of our community. Yeah,

19:47

my brother never read any comics. So that's all

19:49

me. But no,

19:51

my high school is right across from a comic shop

19:53

and my parents would give me like $20 allowance

19:56

every month and so I would spend them on trades and

19:59

I don't know. I don't know, I just became

20:01

pals with the guy who runs the store

20:04

and he's been my biggest cheerleader. He's

20:06

the best and so enthusiastic

20:09

about me doing this and we have wonderful

20:11

chats about all things comics. And so

20:13

he was kind of catalyzed

20:16

a lot of my

20:18

comics journey for me and then

20:21

read it. But yeah,

20:23

that's a big part of it too, just online

20:25

discussions and kind of finding

20:29

people who enjoy the same books that I do because

20:31

no one in my real life

20:33

outside of the people at the comic book

20:35

store read comics and none

20:37

of my friends were into Marvel or Heroes

20:39

at all. And so I felt very

20:41

much like this was my own thing and it's the

20:43

only thing I would talk about in school and I know

20:46

people just hated me for that.

20:48

Like I would not shut up. And it

20:50

was like, I was like that person after watching any

20:52

MC movie like, did you realize, did

20:54

you notice, did you see Easter egg number 28? It's

20:58

the worst, but I think all that work

21:01

paid off now.

21:02

So yeah. Yeah. Like

21:04

I think about some of our people who are editing

21:06

our comics and people who are like vice

21:09

presidents in our publishing division. They started out

21:11

as interns. They started out as fans who were

21:14

the same as you, who are like finding the

21:16

tiniest little things and like digging

21:18

into those. So for anybody listening,

21:20

your career can start by just reading

21:23

the comics. It's a beautiful thing. Sabra

21:26

you've been working in writing in Hollywood for

21:28

a bit before writing comics for Marvel, but your overall

21:30

comic work goes back well before

21:32

that, right?

21:33

Yeah. So I actually tried my

21:35

hand at breaking into comics writing before

21:37

I tried TV writing or anything else. So

21:40

I was finding artists online

21:42

that I could hire to sort of work with and illustrate

21:45

some of my scripts and try to put

21:47

pitches together to publishers that accepted

21:50

that type of creator own work. And

21:53

it took a long time to get those things together. I was trying

21:55

to pay my way through it by being on like a writer's

21:57

assistant salary when I was working.

21:59

in Hollywood. And so, as you can

22:02

imagine, it didn't pay very well, so I could

22:04

only really afford to pay an artist to do one page a month.

22:07

So my first graphic novel was a 66-page graphic

22:09

novel. It took me years and years to make. So

22:12

it was a long time coming. And then as I started

22:14

to find work with Marvel Studios, all

22:17

the stars sort of aligned to sort of open up the door

22:19

to show the independent work that I had done

22:21

to folks at Marvel Comics. And that opened the door for me

22:24

to write some comics for Marvel.

22:25

Wait, what was your first book? It

22:28

was a graphic novel that I

22:30

published digitally on Comixology. It was called Violence.

22:33

And it was about a magic flower

22:35

that whoever you give it to will fall in love

22:37

with you. And

22:40

then dark, bad things may happen from there. And

22:42

so that's sort of what it was. And very

22:44

few people read it, but one of them happened

22:46

to be an editor at Marvel Comics. And that was

22:48

the start of my relationship with Marvel. BRB,

22:50

going to go find it right now. So

22:53

as someone new to writing Comix,

22:56

what sort of challenges did you face? How much did

22:58

you talk to Sabra about like the

23:01

just like getting started on the page?

23:04

Yeah,

23:04

I mean, I was

23:06

terrified. I had to do a lot of

23:08

I wasn't okay. The X-Men part of things

23:10

scared me the most. I

23:12

did not read a lot of X-Men in high school. In fact, I

23:14

did not read any X-Men in high school. And

23:17

when I first approached Sana about writing

23:19

a comic,

23:20

and we got the go ahead to do

23:22

it, she calls me before my meeting

23:24

with Marvel editor. Oh, she's like, by the way, they're going to tell you they're

23:27

killing Miss Marvel, which is coming back as a mutant. You have

23:29

to deal with the aftermath. And I was like,

23:31

no, I screamed into a pillow and

23:34

just picked up Jonathan Hickman's X-books. And

23:37

that was my textbook for this entire

23:39

process, because we we basically

23:41

started I think it was beginning of March, Sabra

23:44

came on board. And then by the end of the

23:47

month, we had to have a draft ready.

23:49

So it was a very quick turnaround.

23:51

And I was just absorbing as much content as

23:53

possible. I literally had the 90s cartoon

23:56

playing in the background while reading Hickman's round. And then

23:58

on my laptop, I had Grant Morrison's new X-Men.

23:59

and I was just absorbing as much information

24:02

as possible. And then we also had, the

24:05

entire ex office is a great resource. Jerry

24:07

Duggan was awesome in kind of like answering any

24:09

questions that we had. But

24:12

yeah, I mean, I'm

24:13

very grateful

24:15

to Savar. He's a fantastic writer and easily

24:18

one of the most generous collaborators. I think, you

24:20

know, he really gave me the upper hand in

24:23

kind of driving the narrative and getting all my wishes

24:25

answered. We literally made a wish list at

24:27

the beginning of this whole thing of like, everything

24:30

we wanted to see, jokes we wanted to have, stuff

24:33

we wanted to tell. And so that was kind of fun. And

24:36

anytime we came across any speed bombs

24:38

or continuity issues, he would be the first one

24:40

with like 20 ideas on how to, you know, solve

24:43

the problems and

24:44

get to tell the story that we wanted to tell the way

24:46

we wanted to tell it. And, you know, I probably

24:49

learned the most from him, not even directly,

24:51

but like through your emails, dude, like, communicates

24:56

and integrates editorial notes and just pages

24:58

coherently and effectively and communicates

25:01

opinions if we don't necessarily agree with anything.

25:03

So I probably would have been a lot more reluctant

25:06

for this whole thing if I didn't have a solid

25:08

co-writer because it was scary.

25:10

Like I didn't even realize they were gonna say yes to letting

25:12

me do this in the first place. So.

25:16

I forgot about that wish list. Now I wanna go back

25:18

and look at how many of those things can we cross off. I know.

25:20

We're still editing number four. We can go back on it. So

25:23

we have another couple more in there. I was gonna ask

25:25

how that wish list is fair, but also I was thinking, you know,

25:27

like, having the co-writer starting that way is

25:30

such a wonderful thing to do. I think

25:32

about Grant. Grant Morrison and Mark Miller

25:34

started out as co-writers on a lot of stuff and then

25:36

look at them now. You think about Jonathan Hickman

25:39

worked as co-writer for a lot of people like Matt

25:42

Fraction and Brubei, like a lot of some of the

25:44

greatest comic book writers of this generation had

25:47

to work with someone else to figure out the

25:49

nuts and bolts of this. So good

25:52

job, you too.

25:52

That's it. Yeah, I just wanna say Imana has

25:54

been a total pro at this. You would never guess

25:57

this is her first comic. Like she really understands

25:59

the language.

25:59

of comics and how to use this medium

26:02

to tell a story effectively. So

26:04

I'm really excited for the world to see what a fantastic

26:06

writer she is.

26:07

Ah shucks. I mean I really wish

26:09

I had a crash course at the beginning of all this of

26:11

like because a comic book script

26:13

is also so different from a movie script like you're

26:16

writing page one panel one describe everything

26:18

that's in the panel you know how are you gonna

26:20

split your dialogue between what panels to tell

26:22

the story effectively it's like

26:24

so much and I think like I've definitely

26:26

progressed from issue one to now issue four. And

26:29

our poor assistant editor Lauren Amaro she

26:31

like she inherits the different formatting

26:33

that Iman uses that I use and she's got to

26:35

put it all together and make sense out of it

26:38

before it gets turned around to the artist art team

26:40

so that's not an easy task. Thank

26:42

you Lauren. Let's talk

26:44

about that art team you have amazing artists in

26:46

Carlos Gomez and Adam Gorham

26:49

the two of them and then and they're working

26:51

on the book are they taking any specific parts of each

26:53

issue how is that working with having two

26:55

artists

26:56

yes they are taking specific parts it's

26:58

it's actually story driven why each

27:00

of them is doing their respective

27:02

sections are we allowed to talk about why what do you

27:04

think I don't know how

27:06

about how about we'll

27:09

maybe we'll continue our conversation in

27:12

another part after the first issue releases

27:14

and then we can talk a little bit

27:16

about how their art splits.

27:19

Wonderful. That's a tease for everybody

27:21

to come back for our second part of this

27:23

conversation next week.

27:26

So as we get ready to go on

27:28

to thinking about the the next part before

27:30

we do that I got to ask though

27:32

the first time you saw

27:35

art come in Iman that is based

27:38

on something you'd written and helped create

27:40

four Marvel comics what's that feeling like what's

27:42

going through your head paint that scene a little bit.

27:45

It's probably the coolest

27:47

part of the whole thing receiving sketches

27:49

from both our artists like it's

27:51

it's so fascinating to see how they respond to the material

27:54

that we give them and interpret it in their

27:56

work like

27:57

sometimes it's super validating as a writer

27:59

when when they draw a page exactly like how

28:01

I pictured it. And other times it's more

28:03

of a learning opportunity, I would call it, to

28:06

make sure I clarify details in my panel descriptions

28:08

in a way that's like,

28:10

you know, more comprehensive for the artist. And

28:12

I mean, I'm just like unlocking so

28:14

many new communication skills throughout

28:16

this entire thing. So I love

28:18

it. It's great.

28:20

But yeah, it's super surreal. Like

28:23

just seeing the cover art come in and then seeing

28:25

like our last names on the corner, like I

28:28

freaked out and I still can't get over

28:30

it. So

28:31

yeah. I should have warned you, it gets very addictive

28:33

to like start your day that way and wake up and

28:35

see what the artist has put in your inbox.

28:38

It's my favorite part of my day.

28:40

And I wake up at noon, so I get to

28:42

see a lot of emails in the morning. Oh

28:45

God. It's great. But you know

28:47

what? We're gonna talk a little bit more about

28:49

Ms. Marvel, the new mutant, her costume,

28:52

the status quo she's coming into in

28:54

this book in our next episode.

28:56

Thank you both so much. Thank you.

28:59

Thank you. Yes,

29:02

that was Iman Valani and Sabra Perzada.

29:05

You heard it there on the chat. We

29:08

are going to be talking with them again next

29:10

week because Ms. Marvel, the new

29:13

mutant written by them is

29:15

coming out and we're gonna chat with them a little

29:17

bit more about the book. Maybe go a little

29:19

behind the scenes on that first issue. So make

29:22

sure you pick up Ms. Marvel, the new mutant, number one

29:24

out August 30th, and then come back for

29:26

us next week to talk about it with the

29:29

co-writers. It is now time

29:31

for the community section, AKA this week,

29:34

messages and thinking

29:36

about next week. Now again, we are gonna have

29:38

Iman Valani and Sabra

29:41

Perzada on to talk about Ms. Marvel, the new

29:43

mutant, but we are also

29:45

gonna be talking with Teenie Howard, who

29:48

is the writer of our big X-Men

29:50

story for Marvel Move. Again,

29:53

is this interactive-ish

29:56

storytelling, audio experience

29:59

where you can see the movie

29:59

you will be part of a whole bunch of stories

30:02

featuring Marvel superheroes and supervillains

30:04

and action and adventure. And

30:06

you get to go on these cool

30:08

stories. We were going to have

30:12

Thor and Loki. We'll have Daredevil,

30:14

Hulk. We're going to have the X-Men

30:17

and more. And so I was thinking,

30:20

which Marvel characters would you like

30:22

to go on a run or walk with? Or

30:24

you can answer, whose fitness goals do you aspire

30:27

to? So maybe you don't necessarily

30:29

like to run or

30:29

walk, or maybe you like to cycle.

30:32

Maybe you like to just get swole

30:35

and clang

30:37

and bang a bit. But

30:39

you can answer that either way. Really, we just want

30:41

you to get fit with us with Marvel Move.

30:43

It's a lot of fun. I

30:46

think I'm torn because I

30:48

hear all of our stories in Marvel Move.

30:51

I absolutely love our Thor and Loki. I think they

30:53

are the most fun. But I also

30:56

love being told by Wolverine to start running,

30:58

bub. It is

31:00

very inspirational to

31:02

have Wolverine in your ears, basically

31:05

picking you up by the scruff of your neck and getting

31:07

you to keep running because sentinels are basically

31:10

blasting at your feet. But

31:13

Jasmine, our producer, has just reminded me of

31:15

the correct answer, which is D-Dog,

31:18

star of the new Marvel Unleashed book. Holy

31:20

moly, that would be so fun. Anyway, those

31:23

are some answers for me. Wolverine, Loki,

31:25

Thor, and D-Dog. Let us

31:27

know which Marvel characters you would like to go on a run

31:30

or walk

31:30

with, whose fitness goals you want

31:32

to aspire to in the Marvel universe. You

31:34

can tweet your answers using hashtag ThisWeekInMarvel.

31:37

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31:39

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31:42

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31:44

Please make sure to tell us it is OK

31:47

to read TWIM on the show so we can

31:49

just do that. We can read it on

31:51

the show. Let's get into answers for last

31:53

week because our question of the week from last week was,

31:56

with Ms. Marvel back and part of the X-Men, what

31:58

Marvel characters do you want to see?

31:59

her team up with. First up is

32:02

braces and glasses at Bay Area Kidstorm

32:04

who said my Ms. Marvel team up would be with

32:07

her and the Hulk. She would make the solid walls

32:09

and Hulk would smash them with people behind them. Oh

32:11

the fun with that. That's a great answer

32:13

braces and glasses that's I think more

32:15

MCU style which totally acceptable

32:18

and we love it and that

32:20

really would be a ton of fun. I also would

32:22

love to see her with She-Hulk

32:24

like MCU Ms. Marvel and MCU

32:27

She-Hulk.

32:29

I'm just I have to stop thinking about that or else I will

32:31

get distracted. Let's get back to the comments.

32:33

DolphinPants at DolphinPants underscore tweeted

32:36

I would love to have Kamala find herself accidentally

32:39

joining X-Force and then somehow

32:41

convincing them to stop their ways to try a more

32:43

peaceful approach. Holy cow DolphinPants

32:46

that would be so fun to like

32:48

try to convince none of them to stab

32:50

everyone to try to convince Kamala trying

32:52

to convince Omega Red not to use

32:55

his death powers on someone.

32:57

I need it. Alan

32:59

John Wilkinson at Cassius335 tweeted Molly Hayes

33:01

any excuse to see

33:04

what the runaways are up to to be honest yes

33:06

yes yes yes yes and yes.

33:09

Karras Pollard at A. Karras Pollard

33:11

tweeted I have a perfect answer Namor

33:14

they're both mutants but with other strong communities

33:16

slash responsibilities and heaven knows

33:19

Namor could do with a bit of Ms. Marvel to guide

33:22

him. You

33:22

know what?

33:23

Karras has the perfect answer.

33:26

As usual thanks Karras. We got

33:28

an email from Paul Warren. Paul said I

33:30

would pair Ms. Marvel with Sabertooth reluctantly

33:33

bringing out his paternal side that we saw

33:35

in Age of Apocalypse and Exiles.

33:38

I also thought about the Avengers squad question from

33:40

a couple weeks back instead of the big three of Cap Stark

33:42

and Thor.

33:43

Old slash future Dorian Green, Iron

33:45

Lad and future Danny Cage with Mjolnir.

33:48

Then they'd pick up Victor Mauncha, Hasmet, Gabby

33:50

Kinney, Sherry Wong, Superior

33:52

Spider-Man and Titania. Basically

33:55

you're doing an Avengers forever type story

33:57

here and I am

33:59

all for it, Paul. Very,

34:02

very good. We got a message

34:04

to Facebook from Ricky. Ricky said,

34:07

I'm going to cheat a little bit here since I don't know a

34:09

lot about the many characters in the comics.

34:12

I'm going to go with MCU Yelena Belova

34:14

because I think that Ms. Marvel, being a super

34:16

hyper teenager who gets overexcited

34:18

by just about anything, would be hilarious to

34:20

see working alongside Yelena. Yelena

34:23

would say all her funny little comments while being slightly

34:26

annoyed of Kamala's giddiness. Plus, now

34:28

Yelena could be the big sister slash mentor

34:30

type that Kamala could benefit from. Thank

34:33

you, Ricky.

34:33

I like that. And you know what? We love answers

34:35

that cover the MCU or the comics or whatever.

34:39

And as mentioned earlier in the show, our

34:41

Marvel Insider code for this episode is

34:43

mutant, M-U-T-A-N-T. Head

34:46

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35:13

that is it for us this

35:15

week. Action-packed next week, going to be even

35:18

bigger. Thank you all for sticking with us. And

35:20

this episode of This Week in Marvel is produced by Jasmine

35:22

Estrada, Isabel Robertson, and Ryan Penagos. Our

35:24

senior manager, audio production and development, is

35:26

Brad Barton. Jill DeBoff is our director of audio.

35:29

And this is her last week, so thank you to Jill.

35:31

This is also last week to former This Week in

35:33

Marvel producer, Zachary Goldberg. Thank you to

35:36

Zachary. Best

35:38

of luck to both of them as they go on to new

35:40

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35:46

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