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morning and welcome to this week as we come

1:56

on the air. The sworn in the Us has

1:58

condemned neurons air attack on Israel. The

2:00

first ever direct attack on Iran

2:02

on Israel Retaliation for Israel's recent

2:04

attack on the Iranian consulate in

2:07

Syria which killed several sop Iranian

2:09

officials. It happened telegraph for days.

2:11

Israel and it's allies including the

2:13

Us. We're ready most of the

2:15

incoming fire, hundreds of drones, cruz,

2:17

and ballistic missiles was intercepted and

2:19

there are signs this morning from

2:21

both Iran and Israel. Did This

2:23

round of fighting is over. And

2:25

a wider war may have been prevented. for

2:28

now that the region remains a tinderbox. pretty

2:30

clean. it starts us off from Jerusalem. Good

2:32

morning Britain! The

2:35

Mornings out Georgia overnight around launched a

2:37

massive airstrike on Israel, including a hundred

2:40

and seventy drive, thirty cruise missiles and

2:42

over one hundred and twenty ballistic missiles.

2:44

That's according to the I'd Yes A.

2:47

In the early hours of the morning

2:49

Sir George the skies over Jerusalem it

2:51

was lit up by rockets and Bryan

2:54

we had the role of fighter jets

2:56

overhead a people here urge to take

2:58

cells us as air raid sirens blared

3:01

across the country and the idea say

3:03

Israel's iodine system and Apple's. Intercepted

3:05

some ninety nine percent of the

3:07

projectile damien a significant strategic success

3:09

and Israel says the some of

3:11

the miss obeyed Sit at Israel,

3:13

causing minor damage to an airbase

3:15

that no casualties reported so far.

3:17

one girl is in critical condition.

3:19

It's not clear whether she was

3:21

injured by falling debris at the

3:23

idea, saying that, as well as

3:25

from around the Lords is also

3:27

coming from Iraq and Syria, Israel's

3:29

our allies France, the Uk, and

3:31

the Us all helping to thwart

3:33

this assault. Iran says at that

3:36

this is their response to an

3:38

Israeli strike on their diplomatic building

3:40

in Syria earlier this month that

3:42

filled puff commanders. But this and

3:44

this is the first time around

3:46

has directly targeted from Iranian soil

3:48

until now. In his youth it's

3:50

array of regional proxies to engage.

3:52

Israel George N. N. Bridge There does

3:55

seem to be size from both Iran

3:57

and Israel. The swans they're trying to

3:59

come. Pain is matter. Yes

4:03

at this morning the top General of

4:05

the Iranian forces told and a rainy

4:08

news agency that the military response was

4:10

over and that they have no intention

4:12

of continuing the operation against Israel. A

4:14

But Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu with a

4:17

message on social media today saying at

4:19

we intercepted we blocks together we will

4:21

win at meanwhile Netanyahu's convening his war

4:24

cabinet later today to discuss of the

4:26

next move that Israel will pay and

4:28

really enthused. The. World Weldon for see

4:30

the impact of this unprecedented strike so

4:32

I'm assured on mushrooms his reward. Rupert

4:35

How normal does it feel there this

4:37

morning. You.

4:40

Know it still has. It was a long

4:42

evening when I spoke to people before this

4:44

strike. They seemed kind of on faith because

4:46

he said Israel is used to this. But

4:48

certainly people are on edge now. And and

4:50

there's a sphere that there could be a

4:53

back and forth from Iran to Israel and

4:55

that it could escalate out of control. Okay

4:58

Brooklinen, thanks to screen or to Global

5:00

Affairs anchor More runs more for thanks

5:02

for joining Us. Warning: Let's pick up

5:04

on what Iran is saying was tied.

5:06

His viewers was involved in those defenses

5:08

or operations lesson were getting a warning

5:10

from Iran against further Us involvement. Exactly

5:12

George They say the operations

5:14

is concluded by Iran. Submission

5:16

to the Un said. However,

5:19

should the Israeli regime make another

5:22

mistake, the runs response will be

5:24

considerably more severe. It is a

5:26

conflict between Iran and the rogue

5:28

Israeli regime, from which the U

5:30

S must stay away or in

5:32

capital letters. There, you see, of

5:35

course Iran had also warned us

5:37

not to be involved in the

5:39

defensive. Israel, President Biden,

5:41

Basically said we will Protect

5:43

Israel and that was an

5:46

extraordinary. Show of defensive capability.

5:48

Last night's that was a massive

5:50

attack. It is so lucky and

5:53

and skilled that they were able

5:55

to shoot down. Those drones.

5:57

Those. Missiles More than three.

6:00

The U.S. early last night thought

6:02

there might be four or 500 missiles

6:05

and drones headed for Israel. So

6:07

this is not over, as

6:09

you say, George. And I do think

6:12

you will likely see some

6:14

sort of response from Israel.

6:16

Because no one was injured,

6:18

because there was no infrastructure

6:20

damage, I believe it will

6:23

probably just aim at military

6:25

facilities in Iran, but Netanyahu

6:27

will be under a lot

6:29

of pressure domestically to retaliate

6:31

for that strike aimed

6:33

at Israel. It's the first time that

6:35

has happened. You know, we all watched

6:37

Brit Clinton last night. That

6:39

was a very scary situation,

6:41

watching those missiles and drones over

6:44

Jerusalem headed for a military facility,

6:46

but over Jerusalem. And this is

6:49

a country that has also been

6:51

undergoing trauma since October 7th,

6:53

of course. So I think you're going to

6:55

see a population that is worried about

6:57

this. No one wants escalation, but

7:00

I think Israel will likely respond. Yeah,

7:02

no question it's incredibly scary, but

7:04

it also seems pretty carefully choreographed,

7:06

at least so far, on all

7:08

sides. I think it is carefully

7:11

choreographed. But again, it was

7:13

a matter of if they had hit

7:15

something, that choreography would go away. I

7:18

think there would have been a much, much stronger

7:20

response. Iran is happy this

7:23

morning that the escalation is not

7:25

greater than it was, but there

7:27

still could be that retaliatory strike.

7:30

Again, choreographed. Iran certainly knew

7:32

that a lot of its armament, a

7:34

lot of those weapons would be intercepted

7:36

by the U.S. and the U.K. and

7:38

France and everybody else who was involved

7:41

in that, and Israel. They

7:43

probably planned for that, and they

7:45

again had targeted and they make

7:47

clear that they targeted only military

7:50

facilities. I don't think Iran wants

7:52

a great escalation either, because that's

7:54

probably something they would lose If

7:57

this does turn very bad. I.

8:00

Think this morning to see it is. Definitely. Off

8:02

but not over. Okay Martha

8:04

Raddatz, thanks for my says bringing President

8:06

Stop conclusions. Vagina, Scurvy John Kirby John

8:08

Thanks for joining us this morning. What's

8:11

your assessment situation right now? Well,

8:15

obviously an extraordinary night with extraordinary

8:17

results are an unprecedented zach on

8:19

Israel, met with an unprecedented sense

8:22

of resolved and determination and military

8:24

capability, but not only by Israel,

8:26

but by the United States and

8:29

other partner nations. Truly a successful

8:31

night ended. You do a lot

8:33

of skill, lot of professionalism, and

8:35

a lot of coordination across the

8:38

board. In the fifties rate is

8:40

real, succeeded in defending itself, and

8:42

United States certainly made good our

8:44

commitment. To help them do that. Do

8:47

believe the conflict has been contained. Let's

8:51

go. I think we're going that will

8:53

know little bit more in coming days

8:55

as the President has made clear we

8:58

everything he's been doing since October seven

9:00

has been to try to keep this

9:02

from becoming a wider regional war. He

9:05

pre positioned forces even in the last

9:07

few days destroyers and fighter squadrons into

9:09

the region to help Israel defense self.

9:11

to keep it from becoming a wider

9:14

war began to keep it from escalating

9:16

further as a will obviously be vigilant

9:18

to any threat coming forward and. And

9:21

making sure that the that we're meeting that need.

9:24

That that the president also called on Iran not

9:26

to retaliate. But they did anyway. What does that

9:28

tell you? Like

9:31

again, say what it tells me as

9:33

I looked at last night. What it

9:35

tells me is that we can make

9:37

good on our commitment to defend Israel.

9:39

It tells me that Israel does has

9:41

superior military capability. Just think about the

9:43

hardware that Iran through into the sky.

9:46

In a little damage that cause to me

9:48

that's a real testament to how strong the

9:50

idea is. It also tells managed to tiller.

9:52

Ready else. That is not alone that

9:55

this was a coalition put together to

9:57

help Israel defend itself. iran

9:59

is you increasingly further isolated in

10:01

the region. But

10:03

walk us through the president's conversations

10:05

with Netanyahu. Is he still warning

10:07

him against escalation in Gaza? And

10:09

what was his direct message on

10:11

this proposed retaliation from Iran? The

10:15

main message was, we're with you. You

10:18

know, he congratulated the prime minister on an

10:20

extraordinary achievement and success last night, but also

10:22

to reiterate that the United States is going

10:25

to continue to help Israel defend itself. That's

10:27

a commitment, going back many, many administrations and

10:30

the president believes wholeheartedly in it. And

10:33

obviously the president was interested

10:35

in getting the prime minister's perspectives on what

10:37

happened. I won't get ahead of

10:39

what the prime minister and the war cabinet will or

10:41

won't do, but the president

10:43

and the prime minister had a good discussion largely about

10:45

the extraordinary success of

10:48

last night. Again, look, as I said earlier, the

10:50

president has been very clear, publicly so. We

10:52

don't seek a war with Iran. We don't seek an escalated

10:56

tensions in the region. We don't seek a

10:58

wider conflict. And everything he's been doing, literally

11:00

since the seventh of October, has

11:03

been designed to that outcome. Last

11:05

night, former president Trump called president Biden

11:07

a demented tyrant, adding that Israel would

11:09

not have been attacked on his watch.

11:12

Your response? I

11:15

won't get into comments from the campaign trail. George,

11:17

you know I can't do that. But think about

11:19

this. The commander in chief, President

11:21

Biden, first one to go to Israel in

11:23

the midst of a war just after October

11:25

7th on the ground while Israel

11:27

was still reeling with the effects

11:30

of October 7th on the ground there. And

11:33

this president ordered U.S. forces

11:36

actively to participate in the defense of Israel,

11:38

actively shooting down missiles and drones from the

11:40

sea and from the air. That's

11:43

extraordinary. That's leadership. That's leadership

11:45

not just in the world, but it shows the power

11:47

of American leadership around the world. And

11:49

once the latest on the negotiations for a hostage

11:51

release and possible ceasefire. When

12:00

I meant ongoing, what I meant is the

12:02

exchange of information is still ongoing. There is

12:04

a proposal on the table that was

12:07

arrived at with very careful diplomacy with our

12:09

Israeli counterparts, led by the CIA Director Bill

12:11

Burns. It's on the table. Hamas needs to

12:13

take that deal. It's a good deal. It

12:15

will get those hostages out, at least the

12:17

first tranche elderly, sick women, and it

12:19

will give us what will be about

12:22

a six-week ceasefire to allow for an

12:24

increase in humanitarian assistance. It's time

12:26

now to move that forward. It's up to Hamas. We

12:28

want them to take that deal. John

12:31

Kirby, thanks very much. Thank

12:34

you. Joining now by our

12:36

former colleague, Fareed Zakaria, author of the

12:38

illuminating new book, Age of Revolutions, Progress

12:40

and Backlash, from 1600 of

12:42

the Present Magisterial Book. We want to talk about that

12:44

as well. But let's start out with what is happening

12:47

overnight. Has the world dodged a bullet here? It

12:49

has dodged a bullet, but I

12:51

wouldn't rule out escalation yet, because

12:54

what's happened is on April 1st,

12:56

Israel broke a longstanding precedent and

12:58

actually attacked Iranian territory

13:01

in Syria, the Iranian consular

13:04

building. Then the Iranians broke

13:06

a longstanding tradition now and fired missiles

13:09

directly at Israel. Until

13:12

now they had resisted, both sides

13:14

had resisted doing that. The question

13:16

now becomes can Israel restrain itself

13:18

from another attack? Because otherwise you

13:20

get into a tit for tat.

13:23

Without painting too many dark scenarios, this is

13:25

sort of how World War I began, which

13:28

is nobody wanted to get

13:30

into the war, but each side felt they

13:32

couldn't back down. And so one

13:34

side, so you can imagine Israel feeling, well,

13:36

we, you know, we repel this attack, but

13:38

we've got to do something. Then

13:40

the Iranians feel like they have to do

13:42

something. And the great danger for the United

13:45

States is that the United States gets dragged

13:47

into what is otherwise a regional war. Which

13:49

is clear that President Biden is doing everything

13:51

possible to avoid. President Biden was counseling, as

13:53

far as I understand, Israel not to make

13:56

that strike on the Iranian embassy

13:58

facilities. So he has always

14:01

been trying to, from the start

14:03

of this war, President Biden has been trying to

14:05

do something very hard, which is show unqualified

14:08

support for Israel, and at

14:10

the same time counsel Bibi

14:12

Netanyahu on a less expansive,

14:15

aggressive strategy, more targeted, more

14:17

discreet, try to avoid the

14:20

conflict spilling over. It's a very

14:22

tough balance. And he's now doing it on two

14:25

fronts, both with Iran and in Gaza. Exactly. We

14:27

have almost no influence with Iran. But

14:30

what's interesting is, so far I

14:32

think it's fair to say that Bibi

14:34

Netanyahu has gotten the upper hand in each

14:36

of these. He pockets the support, but

14:39

doesn't really listen to the advice. And

14:42

I suspect, you know, that's happening even here.

14:44

And of course, you know,

14:46

this does help Prime Minister Netanyahu, because

14:49

it shifts the focus from Gaza. It

14:52

brings the world in solidarity, particularly

14:54

the Western world, in solidarity with

14:56

Israel. One small Bibi

14:58

Netanyahu has found a way to, you

15:01

know, get his way. You know, and this

15:03

is all against the battery of what you call

15:05

one of the most revolutionary ages in history. So

15:07

where does this fit in? So in

15:10

a sense, if you think about what

15:12

Iran is doing, what Russia is doing

15:14

in Ukraine, what China is

15:16

doing, all of these countries

15:18

are very deeply uncomfortable

15:21

with the Western-led, American-led

15:23

liberal world order. And

15:26

a lot of, for them, this is

15:28

kind of an existential threat. So

15:30

they're pushing back in ways that they find

15:32

they can. You know, the Russians do it

15:34

in Ukraine, the Chinese are trying

15:37

to do it with regard to Taiwan. And

15:40

for Iran, the strategy has always been to try

15:42

to, in some way or the other, use its

15:45

array of proxies to push back

15:47

against what it sees as an

15:49

American-led Middle Eastern order. So

15:52

there's almost a kind of cultural

15:54

dimension to this. They don't

15:56

just fear American power, they fear American

15:58

values. that here

16:00

at home as well. And you're saying that former

16:02

President Trump and his candidacy is a culmination, not

16:05

the cause of an identity politics revolution.

16:07

Explain what you mean by that. So

16:09

I think for the last 30 or 40 years in

16:12

this country, we have had an identity

16:14

revolution on a scale most people

16:16

don't realize. I mean, think about

16:18

the role of women. For thousands

16:20

of years, women were second-class citizens.

16:23

And thank God that has changed in

16:25

the last 30 or 40 years. Blacks,

16:27

Hispanics, gays, everyone is rising out of

16:29

the shadows into the mainstream.

16:32

That has unnerved a lot of

16:34

people. That has unsettled a lot

16:36

of people. And you're seeing a

16:39

cultural reaction to it everywhere. By

16:41

the way, Islamic fundamentalism is fundamentally

16:44

obsessed with the idea of the role of women. Bring,

16:46

put them back. If you look

16:48

at Christian nationalism, similarly worried about the

16:50

role of women. If you look at

16:52

the ultra-orthodox in Israel. So there's a

16:54

very broad cultural reaction against it. Trump,

16:57

I've always said this, Donald Trump is

16:59

not a good businessman, but he's a

17:01

good salesman. And he can sense, I

17:03

think in that 2016 campaign, he could

17:05

sense where the crowd was. And he

17:07

realized the core issues were not, as

17:10

they had been for Republicans for decades,

17:12

economic issues, they were cultural issues. So

17:14

you say this is a global phenomenon.

17:17

Can this global phenomenon be contained, this

17:19

backlash? It's

17:21

up to the West to have

17:24

confidence in itself, up to America to lead

17:26

the West. Even Xi Jinping,

17:28

by the way, has been giving speeches about

17:30

how women have become too liberated. They need

17:32

to go back into the kitchen and have

17:34

more babies. The key

17:37

challenge is in Ukraine probably even more

17:39

than here. But this is the big

17:41

question for the future. Can the United

17:43

States keep the West together, continue

17:46

to believe in our values and push back?

17:48

Because if we don't, those

17:51

other forces are determined to

17:53

unravel the Western-led liberal

17:55

order, American power, and again,

17:58

American values. What

18:00

Putin and she and the

18:02

Iranian-Mulas fear is that Western

18:04

liberal values are going to

18:06

undermine their base of support. So

18:09

for them, this is existential. They're going to

18:11

fight. The question is, are we going to

18:13

fight back? JAY, thanks, as always. It is

18:15

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20:41

it. You can do anything. Prosecutors

20:44

allege Trump feared for his electoral prospects

20:46

if the public were to learn about

20:48

Daniels, so he dispatched his longtime fixer

20:50

Michael Cohen to pay her off. And

20:53

the indictment said Trump massed the payments

20:55

as legal fees. Manhattan district attorney Alvin

20:57

Bragg said the whole scheme was part

20:59

of Trump's campaign and illegal. 34

21:01

false statements made

21:04

to cover up other crimes. Trump

21:08

was indicted a little more than a year ago.

21:10

He has denied wrongdoing and has attacked the case,

21:12

the prosecutor and the judge. Democrat

21:15

judge, he wants to do that because

21:17

they're all trying to damage took as much

21:19

as possible. Having the reverse effect. The New

21:21

York case begins a bizarre chapter in

21:24

American political history as Trump faces a

21:26

succession of indictments and wages a campaign

21:28

to return to the White House from

21:30

courthouses up and down the East Coast.

21:35

But in recent weeks, Trump has tried

21:37

repeatedly to delay his Manhattan trial, sending

21:39

his lawyers day after day to an

21:41

appeals court that has turned them back

21:43

each time. Tomorrow, the trial

21:45

begins with jury selection. Hundreds of New Yorkers

21:47

have been summoned. All of them will fill

21:50

out a seven page questionnaire asking whether they've

21:52

ever attended a Trump rally or follow him

21:54

on social media. Potential jurors will also be

21:56

asked if they have firmly held beliefs about

21:59

whether a full former president can be

22:01

charged for the crime. You know, jury selection

22:03

is largely luck. It depends who

22:05

you get. George,

22:08

this courthouse is known by its address. 100

22:12

Center Street, it's where Mark David

22:14

Chapman admitted to killing John Lennon,

22:16

where Lenny Bruce faced obscenity charges

22:18

and starting tomorrow, where the first

22:20

former American president to face criminal

22:22

charges will stand trial. George. Aaron

22:25

Katerski, thanks. We're joined now by New Hampshire Governor

22:27

Chris Sunun, who worked against Donald Trump during the

22:29

primaries, who has now endorsed the former president. Governor,

22:31

thank you for joining us this

22:33

morning. You bet history being made tomorrow,

22:35

that criminal trial. Will your

22:37

support for Donald Trump continue even if he's

22:40

convicted in Manhattan? Yeah,

22:43

look, this trial is not gonna have major

22:45

political ramifications that a lot of people, I

22:47

think, think it may have. When it comes

22:49

to these issues, people see it

22:52

more as reality TV at this point. They really

22:54

do. And so, you know, whether it's a conviction

22:56

or what that conviction looks like, a lot of

22:58

folks, they conflate all four of these different trials

23:00

that he's in. I don't think it's good that

23:02

he's gonna be in the court, have

23:04

to be in there probably three days a week, you

23:06

know, for a number of weeks. That takes him off

23:08

the campaign trail. He'll probably go back on the campaign

23:11

trail and almost like rehash what's going on. He'll

23:13

try to victimize it. And that has

23:15

worked for him, right? I mean, this has been going on for

23:17

over a year, and his poll numbers never seem to go down

23:19

because of the issue. Well, yeah, you're

23:21

going to politics, though I'm asking you

23:24

about right and wrong. You think it's,

23:26

you're comfortable with the idea of supporting

23:28

someone who's convicted of a

23:30

federal crime as president? No, I

23:33

don't think any American is comfortable with any of

23:35

this. They don't like any of this,

23:37

of course. But I mean, when it comes to

23:39

actually, you know, looking at each of these trials,

23:42

as they kind of take place, whether it's this year or next

23:44

year, as they kind of line up, right

23:47

now, this is about an election, right? This

23:49

is about politics. That's what people are judging

23:51

this on. And the ultimate, you know, decision

23:53

will be in November to see where people

23:55

are. But for months and even over a year,

23:57

we've heard that these are the things that are going to bring

23:59

Donald Trump. Trump down, it's not. And to think

24:01

that the American public is going to be

24:04

massively swayed by this politically or otherwise, that's

24:07

not going to happen. I'm asking whether you're going to

24:09

be swayed by it. Trump has...

24:11

I'm at... You're a governor. No.

24:14

You're an elected official. No. Yeah.

24:20

You know what the real story is? The

24:22

average American that has gone from Biden back

24:24

to Trump, the average American that is feeling

24:26

inflation and all these other issues that says,

24:28

look, through all this, whether there's a

24:30

conviction or not, we want a culture change

24:33

in Washington, D.C., and we'll continue to support

24:35

the former president Trump. That's the real story,

24:37

right? That Trump is leading in the polls

24:39

across America in a lot of these different

24:41

polls. So no one should be surprised by

24:43

my support. I think the real

24:46

discussion is, you know, America is moving away from Biden.

24:48

That's how bad Biden has become as president. There's just

24:50

no doubt about it, right? You can't ignore inflation. You

24:52

can't ignore the border. You can say that these issues

24:54

in the courthouse are going to be the one thing

24:57

that brings Biden back into office. It's not

24:59

going to happen that way. As

25:01

you mentioned, this is only one of several indictments

25:03

the former president is facing, perhaps

25:05

the most consequential one, of course, related January 6th.

25:08

Right after that January 6th attack, I'm going to put this up

25:10

on the screen. You said, it is

25:12

clear that President Trump's rhetoric and actions

25:14

contributed to the insurrection. The domestic

25:17

terrorists who attacked the United States Capitol must

25:19

be held accountable and prosecuted. Do you stand

25:21

by that statement? 100

25:24

percent, of course, they have to be prosecuted and

25:26

they are being prosecuted. That's good. I

25:29

think he actually there is his actions absolutely

25:31

contributed to that. There's no question about that.

25:33

I hate the election denialism of 2020. Nobody

25:36

wants to be talking about that in 2024. I

25:38

think all of that was was absolutely terrible.

25:41

But what people are going to be voting

25:43

for, what the reason I'm supporting, not just

25:45

the president, but a Republican administration. That's what

25:47

this is. They want a culture change in

25:49

Washington. All the rules and policies that pound

25:51

down on the American people, all the the

25:53

the the wokeness, right? The fact that

25:55

folks in Washington, liberal elites in Washington

25:58

want to stand on the shoulders. of

26:00

hardworking American families that built this country, defended this

26:02

country, and tell them how to live their lives.

26:04

They're angry, they're upset. That's the culture change that

26:06

people want to see. People are upset by January

26:09

6th, they're upset by the election denial, they have

26:11

every right to be, I am, but at the

26:13

end of the day, they need a culture change

26:15

to get America back on track. So, but wait

26:17

a second right there. Your words were very, very

26:20

clear on January 11, 2021. You

26:22

said that President Trump's rhetoric and actions

26:24

contributed to the insurrection. No

26:26

other president in American history has contributed

26:29

to an insurrection. So please explain, given

26:31

the fact that you believe he contributed

26:33

to an insurrection, how you can say

26:35

we should have him back in the

26:37

Oval Office. It's

26:40

not, because for me, it's not about him as much as

26:42

it is having a Republican administration,

26:44

Republican secretaries, Republican rules, a sense where

26:46

state's rights comes first, individual rights comes

26:48

first, parents' rights comes first. We're gonna

26:50

have a pro-business economy, we're not gonna

26:52

have a cancel culture that has really

26:54

infiltrated all across America. It's not about

26:56

Trump with me. It's about bringing those

26:58

more- But he will be your president.

27:00

Right, I'm the governor of the liberal,

27:02

and I say bringing that mentality back.

27:05

That doesn't make any sense to me, Governor, I'm

27:07

sorry. You're saying it's not about Trump, you're saying

27:09

he would be the president, and you've said he's

27:11

someone who's contributed to an insurrection. I

27:15

understand it doesn't make sense to you, George, but

27:17

look at the polls. What you're telling me is

27:19

you don't understand why 51% of this country is

27:21

supporting Donald Trump. They're not crazy, they're not conservatives,

27:24

they're not extremists, they want culture

27:27

change. So I'm- Governor, I'm not

27:29

talking about polls. I'm

27:35

asking you a very simple question.

27:37

You believe Donald Trump contributed to

27:40

an insurrection. That's correct,

27:42

right? I

27:44

stand by the statement. You stand by the statement

27:47

that he contributed to an insurrection. His

27:49

words, but his words- And you believe that

27:51

someone, you believe that a president who contributed

27:53

to an insurrection should be president again? As

27:58

does 51% of America, George. I

28:01

mean really I understand you're part of the media. I

28:03

understand you're in this New York City bubble or whatever

28:05

it is But you got to look around what's happening

28:07

across this country. They're not it's not about just supporting

28:09

Trump. It's getting rid of what we have today

28:12

It's about understanding inflation is crushing families. It's

28:14

understanding that this border issue is not a

28:16

Texas issue It's a 50-state issue right that

28:19

has to be brought under control It's

28:21

about that type of elitism that the average

28:23

American is just sick and tired of and

28:25

it's a culture change That's what I'm supporting.

28:27

That's what most of America right now is

28:30

looking to support and want to change there

28:32

That's so again I know you're shocked that

28:34

the Republican governor is supporting a Republican president

28:36

and a Republican ticket But it's about the

28:38

ticket put up and down the ballot, right?

28:40

I want Republican governors and senators and congressmen

28:43

and that that type of culture

28:45

if you will I keep going back to that

28:47

Cuz that's exactly what it is. That's the change

28:49

America is looking for and they're not relitigating January

28:52

6 it's not a top issue If you ask

28:54

the average American is January 6 a

28:56

top issue when you go into the ballot box

28:58

not even in the top five It doesn't mean

29:00

it's not it wasn't a significant point doesn't mean

29:02

we all weren't extremely disappointed by his words and

29:04

actions It doesn't mean we you know that we

29:06

tap into this election done I was in which

29:08

I believe very very I think it's terrible what

29:10

he's done on the election to now but again

29:12

It's not a top issue people are voting on

29:15

what's happening in their homes. What's happening with inflation.

29:17

What's happening on the border, right? That's

29:19

real. You're you're gonna vote for so

29:21

you're you're against the election denialism Which

29:24

the president reform president repeated last night

29:26

you believe he contributed to the insurrection

29:28

on January 6 you believe it doesn't

29:30

matter If he's convicted in the Manhattan

29:32

case, he's also facing another indictment over

29:34

classified documents Previously you've said these charges

29:36

are serious and Trump should drop out

29:38

of the race if he's convicted. Do you

29:40

still believe that? Well,

29:43

it's lucky in a primary look we fought hard in

29:45

the primary we got behind Nikki This is the chaos

29:48

that Nikki Haley and I and others warned about was

29:50

gonna follow Trump and that it's just a complete distraction

29:52

I'd rather have Republicans on the campaign trail talking about

29:54

real issues then, you know having to talk about this

30:00

stuff. It's a complete distraction. Doesn't mean it's going

30:02

to lose and doesn't mean people aren't going to

30:04

support the Republican ticket because right now it looks

30:06

like they are. But that's the distraction we're all

30:08

trying to avoid. Well, but I'm asking a different

30:11

question. I'm asking a different question. I'm asking you

30:13

a different question because you said in the past

30:15

that he should drop out if he's convicted in

30:17

the classified documents case. Do you still believe that?

30:22

No, no, no, no. He's going to drop out

30:24

after being the nominee. Of course not. You know,

30:26

that that's not to be expected at all. All

30:28

of these cases, by the way, the average American,

30:31

it's all conflated, right? We watch this. We watch

30:33

the details. The average American sees it more as

30:35

reality TV. I'm not saying it's not. There's not

30:37

real issues to bear there. Of course there are.

30:40

But there's clearly politics to bear in some

30:42

of these cases. That is undeniable. The

30:45

average American just thinks it's more reality

30:47

TV and prosecution of him at this

30:49

point. He plays that victim card very,

30:51

very well. His poll numbers only go up

30:53

with this stuff. So to think that this is some

30:55

sort of deal breaker, again, I'll go back to where

30:57

I started where people are going to say, yep, if

30:59

he's convicted, I'm walking away. That's just

31:01

not going to happen. At the end of the

31:03

day, they want that culture change of the Republican

31:06

Party. And if we have to have Trump as

31:08

the standard bearer and the voters decided that's what

31:10

they wanted, not what I wanted, but what the

31:12

voters or the Republican voters wanted, if he's going

31:14

to be the standard bearer of that, we'll take

31:17

it if we have to. That's how badly America

31:19

wants a culture change. So just

31:21

to sum up, you would support him for president

31:23

even if he's convicted in classified documents, you support

31:25

him for president, even though you believe he contributed

31:27

to an insurrection. You support him for president even

31:29

though you believe he's lying about the last election.

31:31

You support him for president even if he's convicted

31:33

in the Manhattan case. I just want to say

31:35

the answer to that is yes, correct? Yeah,

31:39

me and 51 percent of America. Governor,

31:42

thanks for your time this morning. Up

31:44

next, Arizona puts the abortion debate

31:46

back in the spotlight. Rachel Scott

31:48

reports in the battleground state plus

31:50

Democratic Senator Tina Smith joins us

31:52

live. The Arizona Supreme Court's decision to

31:54

uphold a near total ban on abortions and

31:56

shockwaves across the country. Rachel Scott was

31:58

on the ground in Arizona. has the latest on

32:00

the fallout for the 2024 elections. It's

32:04

already one of the most closely watched battleground

32:06

states. But a consequential

32:08

ruling in Arizona upholding a 160

32:11

year old near total ban on

32:13

abortion, now putting the issue at the center

32:15

of the 2024 race. This

32:18

is 2024, not the 1800s. And

32:23

we're not going back. Democrats

32:25

trying to seize momentum putting these billboards

32:27

up around the state. Our president

32:30

Donald Trump wants now to sign a federal

32:32

abortion ban. Now he says it's not necessary.

32:34

Why should Americans trust your word that you

32:36

would not do it now if you were

32:39

reelected? Because we don't need it

32:41

any longer because we broke Roe v Wade

32:43

and we did something that nobody thought was

32:45

possible. We gave it back to

32:47

the states and it's working the way it's

32:49

supposed to. Vice President Kamala Harris

32:52

firing back saying Trump cleared the way for

32:54

21 states to ban or

32:56

restrict access to abortion. By appointing three

32:58

of the five Supreme Court justices who

33:01

have returned Roe versus Wade. Donald

33:03

Trump just said the

33:06

collection of state bans is quote

33:09

working the way it is supposed to.

33:13

Trump has acknowledged abortion was a losing

33:15

issue for Republicans in the midterm. And

33:17

despite saying the issue should be left

33:20

up to the states, Trump on Friday

33:22

also writing in a social media post

33:24

that the Arizona ruling went too far

33:26

and calling on state leaders to remedy

33:28

what has happened. The

33:32

Arizona state legislature was expected to

33:34

swiftly repeal the law. But Republicans

33:36

blocked that effort. Doctors

33:38

describing chaos and confusion. I'm having patients who have

33:41

received abortions last week call and say am I

33:43

still going to be able to receive my follow

33:45

up care. Providers who perform

33:47

abortions could face up to five years

33:49

in prison. Is there a sense of

33:51

fear among abortion

33:53

providers? I would

33:56

say undoubtedly.

33:59

I didn't go to medical. school to go to

34:01

jail. Ariz Attorney

34:04

General Chris Ma the law but

34:06

concedes she prosecutors.

34:08

I would urge to

34:13

make a plan and I can' to

34:16

say that, but it's time 60

34:20

days from now. If some you need

34:22

an abortion, if y start

34:25

thinking about Calif and

34:27

New Mexico or colorad could

34:30

ultimately decide t when

34:33

Arizona and as many have

34:36

abortion measures on Florida

34:38

where a six week law

34:41

on May 1st. Abortion six

34:44

states where it has b conservative

34:47

states like Kentucky.

34:49

I will promise Arizona

34:53

are going to make our

34:57

ban is buried forever

35:01

pass a ballot initiative rights

35:04

in our constitution Senator

35:08

Tina Smith in In joining

35:10

us this morning. S heard

35:12

what's happening in this com

35:14

stock law. You're in the

35:16

house to repeal it success? Well,

35:21

you know, to say George

35:23

that americ conned

35:25

by Donald Trump and abortion.

35:28

We know that he responsible

35:31

for what's go and

35:33

all over the country. I

35:36

think as we think about up with

35:38

regard to the com this

35:40

is a 150 year old law relegated

35:45

to the dustbin can

35:48

see Trump judges and Supreme

35:50

Court raising thi people

35:54

shouldn't be able t and

36:00

make sure that we are doing everything that we

36:02

can to protect people's rights to make their own

36:04

decisions about their own bodies and their own lives.

36:07

Is there anything more that President Biden could be

36:09

doing now with executive action to protect

36:12

those rights? I'm

36:15

really grateful that the president has

36:17

done everything that he possibly can

36:19

to protect people's rights. And he

36:22

is fighting right now to make

36:24

sure that the FDA's authority to

36:26

make decisions about whether medications like

36:29

Mifapristone are, that their decision making

36:31

is what rules and not the

36:33

decision of some Trump judge from

36:36

Texas, which is what's happening before

36:38

the Supreme Court right now. So I think that

36:40

they're doing everything that they can. What we need

36:42

to do is to win these elections so that

36:45

we can put the protections of Roe in

36:47

law. You say

36:49

that the American people will not be conned by

36:51

Donald Trump, but his position now is relatively clear.

36:54

Isn't it? You're not saying this should be a state by

36:56

state issue? Well,

36:58

so think about what that means. Exactly. First

37:01

of all, he said that he is the person who is proudly

37:03

responsible for overturning Roe.

37:06

That is what has caused all of this chaos

37:08

and cruelty to the

37:10

one in three American women who live

37:13

in states where abortion is now basically

37:15

banned. The other thing he said just

37:17

a couple of days ago is that

37:19

these state bans are working the way

37:22

they should. So ask a woman in

37:25

Arizona or Texas whether she thinks

37:27

this is working for her, because for

37:29

her, this isn't a political discussion.

37:31

This is about her personal life

37:34

and her decisions that she can make for

37:36

herself about her own life. So

37:38

I think that his position is totally clear.

37:40

He is responsible for these abortion bans,

37:42

and I think he's going to be held accountable

37:44

for that come the election November. Given

37:47

what you think is the power of this issue and

37:49

everything else we've seen over the course of this

37:51

election, how do you explain the fact that Donald

37:54

Trump is either tied or ahead of President Biden

37:56

in most polls? Well,

37:58

you know, there's so much. I'm going to

38:00

talk about these polls right now. I've been

38:02

working, I started out in politics working as

38:04

an organizer and going door to door talking

38:07

to my community. And so I know that

38:09

what matters is the choice that people are

38:11

faced with when they actually cast their vote.

38:14

And that is what's going to make all the difference in

38:16

the world. And on this issue, on the issue of

38:18

abortion rights, the chores couldn't be more

38:20

clear, right? You have Joe Biden and

38:22

Kamala Harris who are fighting to protect

38:24

people's freedom. And Donald Trump was responsible

38:26

for taking it away. Senator

38:28

Smith, thank you for your time this morning. Thank

38:31

you. Round tables up next,

38:33

we're back in a moment. With

38:36

President Trump as our nominee in the party, we

38:38

are very much looking forward to that historic day

38:41

in November because we are going to grow the

38:43

House majority. We're going to win the United States

38:45

Senate and we're going to win back the White

38:47

House as well. You're getting along very well with

38:49

the Speaker. It's not an easy situation for any

38:51

Speaker. I think he's doing a very good

38:53

job. He's doing about

38:56

as good as you're going to do. Former

38:59

President Trump, Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House on Friday

39:01

at Mar-a-Lago. Let's talk about this and many other things

39:04

on the round table with former DNC Chair Donna

39:06

Brazil. Former RNC Chair, Trump

39:08

White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus, the

39:11

executive editor of the Associated Press, Julie Pace, and

39:13

Washington Post congressional reporter, Mariana Sotomayor. And Mariana,

39:15

let me begin with you. You cover Congress

39:17

every single day. Speaker Johnson has been in

39:19

some trouble. But I think that that lifeline

39:21

for President Trump isn't enough. We're

39:24

about to find out this week. It's going to

39:26

be a consequential week for the Speaker as well

39:28

as House Republicans. They were always going to tackle

39:30

the question of whether to send funding to Ukraine

39:32

and Israel. Given just the developments of the last

39:34

24 hours, it is

39:36

imperative now for many House Republicans

39:39

who are trying to potentially delay

39:41

that question to address it. Marjorie

39:43

Taylor Greene has said before that

39:45

if Johnson sends any funding bill

39:48

to Ukraine, that that is what's

39:50

going to trigger this motion to vacate. Even

39:52

though Trump has already said, I

39:54

stand with the Speaker. I think he's doing a

39:56

good job in a very tough situation. We're really

39:59

going to see. all of this play out,

40:01

but it was... Do you think he ended it? I

40:03

think so. I think two things.

40:05

One, Republicans, almost

40:09

all of us understand that getting

40:11

rid of Speaker Johnson is complete

40:13

stupidity, number one. And

40:16

the Republicans would risk losing

40:18

the House majority. And

40:20

third, I think we've had

40:23

enough of the circus in the House

40:25

with this stuff, and President Trump

40:27

knows it, his campaign knows it, and

40:29

that's why he's putting a lid on it. What

40:32

a week in abortion politics, Donna Brazile,

40:34

with that decision from the Arizona Supreme

40:36

Court. Is this the

40:39

magic bowl the Democrats believe it is? It's

40:41

something that all women should be concerned about. George,

40:44

I've never heard from my nieces the way I've

40:46

heard from them over the last couple of

40:48

months, because they live in the South.

40:50

And where will women go when their

40:53

IVF is banned, when they're worried

40:55

about birth control, when they're worried about

40:57

whether or not if something, God

40:59

forbid, is to happen, could they

41:01

receive medical care? Yes. Isn't

41:04

a galvanizing issue for Americans who

41:06

are concerned about reproductive rights and

41:08

freedom? Absolutely. Will Democrats

41:10

make sure that those victims, those women

41:12

who are having these horrifying experiences get

41:15

to tell their story? Absolutely. And

41:17

who's responsible? Donald Trump. He owns

41:19

it, he brags about it, and we're gonna

41:21

remind the American people. The former president thought he

41:23

put this behind him by coming up

41:26

with the state's rights solution, according to him.

41:28

Well, and then the timing is remarkable, because just a few

41:30

days later, you see what happens when you leave this issue

41:32

to the states, which is what he says he wants to

41:34

do, and you have a state that takes this position, which

41:36

is objectively far outside of the

41:38

mainstream of where most Americans are, even those

41:40

who support restrictions on abortion, and then to

41:42

have it happen in a state that is

41:44

going to be so consequential to this election.

41:46

And I think if you look at the

41:49

map that you showed earlier of where

41:51

the politics and where voters have been on this,

41:53

you know, really they have come down on one

41:55

side over the course of the last several months,

41:57

which is on upholding rights for abortion.

42:00

You have seen two elections in a row where

42:02

this abortion issue seemed to really propel Democrats' rights.

42:04

It's a lifeline to the Democrats. There's no doubt

42:07

about it, and Republicans have not been able to

42:09

get themselves out of the mud. I think

42:11

President Trump did take the

42:14

position that he had to take, and

42:17

Republicans have to do a better job of

42:19

winning the hearts and minds of these voters

42:21

because where the Democrats have had success is

42:24

convincing people that

42:27

any regulation on abortion is

42:29

an affront to their civil

42:32

rights. When 80% of

42:35

the American people believe that abortion

42:37

in the third trimester is wrong,

42:41

66% of the American people think abortion

42:43

after the first trimester is wrong. That's

42:46

where Republicans need to be. But

42:48

until they can get their message

42:50

together, this has been a lifeline

42:53

to the Democrats. And I think President

42:55

Trump, what you saw is that he

42:57

understood it, and he

43:00

wanted to move on from it. No, it's

43:02

punishment. When a 12 or 13-year-old

43:04

girl who didn't know she was pregnant, we're

43:08

talking about the third trimester

43:11

here. You want to get third second

43:13

trimester? Let women make this decision.

43:15

Trust women to make this decision.

43:18

And this is not a Democrat or Republican. This

43:21

is an American freedom issue for women. We fought

43:23

for this right to be able to make a

43:25

decision based on our own bodies. Zana, here's the

43:27

question. And you want to get into the technicality.

43:29

I said you men want to tell us what

43:32

to do with our bodies. No. You want to

43:34

tell us how long our period shall last. You

43:36

want to tell us how long we should be

43:38

pregnant, where we can go, if we need IVF

43:41

treatment. No, I'm hearing it. Now, thank

43:43

God, I'm not sharing the Bible. She had a baby

43:45

in her 60s. So I

43:48

am grateful that I'm beyond those ages,

43:50

but I am concerned that my nieces

43:52

are being given less rights to choose

43:54

and to go back to an 1860

43:58

era when my great-grandma mother barely

44:00

just got her freedom. Hell no, we're

44:02

not going back. And this is going to

44:05

be like the MAGA movement. It's a movement where women

44:07

are sick and tired of men telling us what to

44:09

do with our bodies. No one wants

44:11

to go back to 1864. But

44:13

the question for Democrats is, at what point should there

44:21

be a regulation? Is it halfway

44:24

through the pregnancy? Is it two-thirds?

44:26

Is there any place in

44:29

this conversation where there

44:31

is a moment in time that

44:34

abortion should be regulated? The health should be the

44:36

priority. The health. What's so

44:38

hard about the health of a woman? The challenge

44:40

that Republicans have right now, though. The health. The

44:43

30th week, Julie. The health of a woman. Julie, go ahead.

44:45

The talk that Republicans have right now is that

44:47

when you do look at polls, you're right. The

44:49

majority of American supports are open to some restrictions.

44:52

But you're talking about third trimester and you look

44:54

at Florida, six-week ban. You look at what happened

44:56

in Arizona. These are positions that are outside of

44:59

where most Americans are right now. And

45:02

Republicans have not been able to get out

45:04

of the ditch on this issue because they're

45:06

framing it in these early

45:08

stages and they're not finding a position

45:11

that the majority of Americans support. You

45:13

see anything happening in Congress this year

45:15

on this or is this all about

45:18

November? No. I mean, Republicans,

45:20

especially in the House, who have the majority, have

45:22

been saying for a long time since the moment

45:24

that they did not win in 2020 with the

45:26

bigger margins that they thought they would, we

45:29

cannot have a vote on any kind

45:31

of federal legislation on abortion because they

45:33

will lose the majority. Julie, we enter

45:35

a new world tomorrow, first former president ever

45:38

to face a criminal trial. What should we expect? It's

45:40

pretty remarkable. We're going to go through

45:42

this procedural act of selecting a

45:45

jury and something that many of us have

45:47

sat through being on a jury before. And

45:49

yet it's going to be for a trial

45:51

of a former president of the United States.

45:53

We've literally never seen this before. And Trump

45:55

is going to use this courtroom and other

45:57

courtrooms to come as really the centerpiece of

45:59

his campaign. It's worked for him through the

46:01

primary. I think the question now will be

46:03

how that sliver of moderate voters, that sliver

46:05

of persuadable voters will react to seeing him

46:07

in this case. That's what I don't want to

46:09

bring to Rice. Rice, do you believe that the

46:12

former president needs either an acquittal or a mistrial,

46:14

or do you think the conviction won't matter either?

46:16

I think in this case in particular, it's

46:19

the most political case

46:22

of them all. And I think people see

46:24

that. The U.S. attorney

46:26

didn't take it. The previous DA didn't take

46:28

it. The election commission didn't move forward with

46:30

it. And it only takes one here. And

46:35

the question that I don't think a lot of

46:37

people are talking about is... Well, but that's what

46:39

I'm asking. I understand what happened, that there's a

46:41

mistrial. And I understand what happens if he's acquitted.

46:43

I think you're right that both of those could

46:45

potentially help him politically. I'm asking you about a

46:47

conviction. Yeah. I don't

46:49

think in this particular case it's

46:52

going to move much. But again, when

46:55

there's only 100,000 people deciding

46:57

the outcome of an election, I don't

47:00

think anyone can say with

47:02

definitive proof one

47:04

way or the other. Donna?

47:07

Well, I think all

47:09

of these trials are important. And this is the first

47:11

time. We've never been here before, George. So I don't

47:13

know the playbook. But I understand that Donald Trump is

47:15

going to come out every day and just try to

47:18

pour hot

47:20

water on the proceedings. Look,

47:22

I don't want to get into lurid details of

47:24

what may or may not have happened and

47:26

what records might have been falsified. But to

47:28

have a sitting president of the United States

47:31

in court for three or four days a

47:33

week, when you should be out there meeting the

47:35

voters, talking to the people about the issues

47:37

that they're concerned about, that is a loss,

47:39

a net loss. And that's why Joe Biden

47:41

is making tremendous gains in the poll. Not

47:44

enough to overtake anybody, but enough to show

47:46

that he's ready to compete. Completely

47:48

uncharted. I'm going to take it all day. Thank

47:51

God. Thank you all very much. We'll

47:53

be right back. That is all for us today. Thanks for

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