​ In this episode, we learn that making champagne and making a magazine isn’t all that different. We also learn what happens when you bring a legendary east London drag queen to rural France. ​ Our guests: The Gourmand founder David Lane and Adam Saletti, co-owner of Selavy Champagne. ​ If you flip through issues of bi-annual food and culture magazine The Gourmand, you can find an interview with the Cookie Monster or a photo feature of hot dogs posing with actual dogs. David is also creative director of Lane & Associates creative agency and, since last October, an art director with Frieze, the art fair and its associated publications. ​ Adam is the former publisher of magazines like The Gentlewoman and Luncheon. In June 2016, he helped create Selavy, described as “a hand-crafted queer champagne made from organically grown grapes on the mountain of Bonneil, France.” ​ One the agenda: why food is such a common topic for a magazine, building Champagne’s outside the box branding, and whether The Gourmand and Selavy are part of a trend or the start of era in food journalist and branding.