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we unlock the treasures behind chamber of

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secrets chapter twelve, the Polyjuice potion. Oh

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man, what a chapter dude this one

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it had. I was like I was

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marking up stuff left and right on

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this one. There was there's like a lot

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happens. We have Christmas at Hogwarts. We

0:51

have the entire Polyjuice potion thing. We

0:53

have lots of like Percy Weasley shenanigans

0:55

going on. Yeah, this chapter is definitely

0:57

really big on the whole like this

1:00

is one of the ones where you're supposed to

1:02

be like, what is Percy doing down there? Like

1:04

it it almost feels like it's written to me

1:06

in such a way that like if

1:08

you were if you were watching, you know,

1:11

like prime time TV

1:15

and this episode came on and there

1:17

was a whole bunch of deep divers

1:19

who were going to be like picking

1:21

apart the whole episode. You

1:24

would walk away from this one with like ideas

1:26

about what's going to happen and those ideas would

1:28

be incorrect. Yeah, but like it's

1:30

funny to me because it's like it does

1:32

read that way, but like because you're just

1:35

blitzing through the story like most people who

1:37

are reading this are probably just continuously going

1:39

from eleven twelve thirteen fourteen and on like

1:41

you're not you're not reading chapter by chapter.

1:43

You're not dissecting every little sentence. So it's

1:47

possible you wouldn't pick up on a lot of the

1:49

stuff that even is going on, but there's a lot

1:51

to pay attention to there. Absolutely is there was there

1:53

was one thing and we'll get to it eventually where

1:57

like the advantage of reading

2:00

it by hand, the old fashioned way. The old

2:02

fashioned way. I was listening to it and I

2:04

was like, now wait a minute. I

2:06

didn't realize that this word was italicized. That

2:08

I feel like changes the entire meaning. Oh.

2:11

It adds layers of context. Okay, that's

2:13

very interesting. Yeah, there was one in

2:15

particular that I saw, because I listen

2:18

and read, and there's like one sentence

2:21

where they've come back from the Southern

2:23

Common Room and Ron says, what's

2:25

the matter, said Ron? You must be back to normal

2:27

by now. And the

2:30

original copy of the book doesn't

2:32

include the words, we are. Oh.

2:35

Which I think is really interesting. So like Jim Dale just says like,

2:38

you must be back to normal by now. That's

2:41

it. And I'm like, it's so interesting that at some

2:43

point in time they were like, we should add we are to. Yeah.

2:46

What different context does that make? That was exactly

2:48

I was like, oh, that's so interesting. That's not

2:50

in the audio book. Then I was like, does

2:53

it matter? Right? Like, I'm sorry. It's

2:55

so interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Not

2:58

in the audio book. That's just like an

3:00

interesting little piece of clarification or something that

3:02

maybe some editor along the way thought was

3:04

needed. I guess so. Just like throw this

3:07

in there a little. Just so we know, the boys

3:09

are back to normal by now. Right. Right.

3:12

Yes. Yes. because

3:16

I have constantly

3:18

been one to empathize

3:22

isn't really the right word

3:24

with Draco Malfoy. Right.

3:27

I think I've always sort of come to his defense in a lot

3:29

of ways in just sort of the under the

3:33

premise that like a lot of people

3:35

at this age haven't experienced enough of

3:38

the world to do anything other than

3:40

just sort of like parrot the beliefs

3:42

of their own parents. Right. You

3:44

know, and a lot of times it takes some real world experience to actually see

3:47

where you stand on certain issues.

3:50

And so for a lot of times I'm like,

3:52

you know, Malfoy is like, he's mean and he

3:54

definitely is like a bully and stuff like that.

3:56

This chapter in particular though, I'm like, now

3:59

it's hard. to come to your defense. I

4:01

know. The stuff that you're saying is like,

4:03

it's like, I mean, he's like actively just

4:05

basically like, yeah, no, it's a good thing

4:07

that these students are being attacked. Hopefully like

4:09

the monster does better. Right. Yeah. It's like,

4:12

my dad says let the air

4:14

of Slytherin do his thing, you know, or

4:16

what is like, Oh, okay. Yeah. Like this

4:18

is, this is, this is better for everyone.

4:20

Dumbledore, we shouldn't even let like actively thinks

4:22

like Colin Creed, he shouldn't be allowed to

4:24

the school or like Hermione. Yeah. You, you

4:28

know, as even in this book, it was

4:30

brought up that she's better at school than

4:32

you, you know, right. Right. Yeah. Like she's,

4:34

she's clearly someone that you, you can't even

4:36

keep pace with. Um, yeah. So

4:38

it's that we can get into it more as we get

4:40

closer to it, but that was like one of the things

4:42

that really stood out from this chapter. I was like, okay,

4:44

okay. Like I think probably this is like one of those

4:46

things where I tend to think of the book, like,

4:49

you know, you, you don't think about every single word

4:51

on every single page necessarily all the time. Like you

4:53

start to know the story beats, you start to know

4:55

where each of the characters are when, and you start

4:57

to like, sort of like dissolve

4:59

away some of like the more like petty

5:01

or mean things that happen along the way. Yeah.

5:04

So anyway, this chapter in particular is

5:06

like, yeah, Drake, yo, this is not

5:08

your best chapter. Not your best show.

5:11

Not your best look, dude. Yeah, not

5:13

so much. Yeah. Speaking of which the,

5:15

uh, the chapter art for this one,

5:17

not Harry's best look. Yeah. Well, I

5:19

mean, he's obviously a mid transformation into

5:21

a Goyle or possibly fully

5:23

transformed. I know. Yeah, that's the thing.

5:25

So we're, we're getting, um, Harry as

5:28

Goyle looking at his own reflection back

5:30

in the mirror. And if,

5:32

if this is in fact Goyle, then Goyle is,

5:34

um, I

5:36

mean, it's like to, to have ever referred

5:39

to him as like potentially troll like doesn't

5:41

seem completely off face. You know, he's a

5:43

looker. He's a looker. He's a little boy.

5:45

This is a rare look. It's like it's

5:48

very unusual to have Goyle

5:50

be in the chapter art, but here

5:52

he is, his moment in the, in

5:54

the limelight or else I guess, uh,

5:56

girl's bathroom light, which is in the

5:58

artwork. Yeah. Yes, yes, yeah, no

6:00

just just a real real interesting. You know, he's

6:03

just waiting for his glow Exactly,

6:05

you know, he just got to grow into his

6:07

skin a little bit. Yeah, I guess so I

6:09

mean eventually he destroys the Horcrux, right? That's true

6:11

So so Boyle has two chief accolades one is

6:14

that he destroys the Horcrux and the other is

6:16

that he's chapter art exactly There you go. So

6:18

well doe to a Goyle. Sorry. I just had

6:21

a big yaw I know we're

6:24

like on the said it's been raining so hard in Town

6:30

today and it's creating it's been a very

6:32

sleepy day here in Roanoke Yeah, so now

6:34

we're down here in our cozy set, you

6:36

know doing our thing. Oh boy. You just

6:38

fall right asleep Anyway,

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let's jump into the the chapter itself

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So at the end of the last

6:45

chapter Harry is brought to Dumbledore's office

6:47

for being found at the scene of

6:49

Justin Finch Fletchley's Petrification

6:51

but and like McGonagall brings him

6:53

up to Dumbledore's office where literally

6:55

nothing will happen Like

6:58

whatever Dumbledore whatever conversation like

7:00

McGonagall's like I have to bring into the headmaster

7:03

Like I don't know what she thinks is gonna

7:05

happen, but literally nothing happens to him. You're exactly

7:07

right Yeah, this is kind of like a strange

7:09

one because I think I think this is like

7:11

you need a way to plant Harry in Dumbledore's

7:15

office so that he can like be introduced

7:17

to Fox Phoenix to

7:20

have like this this brief little exchange

7:22

with the sorting Yeah to get like

7:24

a little bit of back and forth

7:26

and dialogue with Harry But otherwise,

7:28

you know, it's like yeah, you're exactly right Like I

7:30

don't know what McGonagall thought was going

7:32

to happen like okay Harry This is the third

7:35

time that somebody's been attacked you've been at the

7:37

scene of the crime or like relevant to it

7:40

each time that something has happened and

7:43

Now It's out of my

7:46

hands headmaster it is right, you know You get

7:48

in there and Hagrid storms in Hagrid's like it's

7:51

not Harry professor, you know, like he's all about

7:53

it You know, he's coming to his defense. He's

7:55

swinging a rooster everywhere and

7:58

and Dumbledore's just sort of basically like I

8:00

don't think it's Harry and then they have like

8:02

a very small back and forth where Harry He's

8:05

just like is there anything else you need to

8:07

tell me and it's like No,

8:10

no, I was told to come here. Is there

8:12

anything you want to tell me exactly? Yeah, should

8:14

we talk? No, yeah, should we elaborate? I know

8:16

yeah This is I think basically probably

8:18

what you were alluding to the setup for Dumbledore's big

8:21

plan most likely Well, there is a little bit in

8:23

there for sure And Yeah,

8:26

I'll get to I'll get to it in

8:28

a second There's we first get the look

8:30

around his office where we get this is

8:32

always bothers me that he has the number

8:35

of curious silver instruments On

8:37

his spindle leg tables whirring and emitting little puffs

8:39

of smoke like these are brought up all the

8:41

time and we like never Get

8:44

an explanation for what they do like he

8:46

has them. They're always there. What do they

8:48

do? What are these? instruments I

8:50

know I mean in

8:52

it's a I

8:55

don't know. Like I think that once upon a time

8:57

we started like deep diving like Ariana Dumbledore and I

8:59

think the name Ariana means silver

9:02

And yeah, so it's like the fact that he's

9:05

got like all these like little silver instruments It's

9:07

like is that like a nod in

9:09

some way shape or form? Are they dark

9:11

detectors kind of like what loop in or

9:13

like Moody has going on like their office?

9:15

Yeah, I mean the only we do I

9:17

mean order the Phoenix after Arthur's attacks like

9:19

one of them Like puffs

9:21

out the smoke and it's like swirling together

9:23

and he's like a bunch of essence divided

9:26

or something Yeah, it's like we don't get

9:28

a huge explanation for what that

9:30

is other than I guess it's like him talking

9:32

about the Horcruxes Or maybe that's him figuring

9:34

out Nagini's a Horcrux or

9:38

Something but it's never like these Instruments are

9:40

my way of keeping track on things or

9:42

whatever things and stuff. Yeah Yeah, yeah stuff

9:44

Yeah, it would be very interesting to know

9:47

like what the function of each of these

9:49

objects happens to be yeah I

9:51

also like that when Harry gets in there He he

9:53

is under the impression that he you know as ever

9:55

might get expelled that he's in big trouble, but he's

9:57

also like You know what let me just go ahead

10:00

and put the sorting hat on you know let me

10:02

just go and handle this ancient

10:04

artifact yeah I just had a five my curiosity

10:06

right yeah I mean because at this point the

10:08

hat is literally 1,000 years old yeah right oh

10:13

it's probably I mean even the fact that anybody's

10:15

handling it for the sorting themselves is probably like

10:17

too much handling for such an old object yeah

10:20

oh gosh

10:22

I'm sorry I'm seriously got the yawns today you

10:24

guys I'm not I'm not like

10:26

just interested in what we're talking about at all

10:28

my goodness me he puts the

10:30

hat on the hat tells him you would

10:32

have done well in Slytherin which Harry verbally

10:34

reprimands the hat he's like you're wrong no

10:37

I disagree which if you've seen our what if Harry

10:39

was in Slytherin video actually Harry is the one who's

10:41

wrong he would have done just fine that's

10:44

true yeah there is a version of

10:46

this where where Harry's just able to

10:48

trudge through entirely unscathed as a Slytherin

10:51

I also like the little phrase there be in your

10:53

bonnet Harry Potter this

10:55

this is like always one of those things

10:57

where it's like it's so funny for a

10:59

hat to be asking because it's like a

11:01

hat really had joke yes it's a hat

11:04

yeah yeah no it's a little idiom though

11:06

where being your bonnet is basically a phrase

11:08

like something that's like clearly stuck inside of

11:11

your head and you just kind of keep

11:13

like whirling about on the same thing

11:15

over and over and over again so like if

11:17

you're if you're on like a total hick kick

11:19

about like oh what

11:21

is it like an enneagram or something like you might

11:23

you might say that you have like a being your

11:25

bonnet about like the enneagram personality right you're trying to

11:27

like diagnose them like everywhere you go it's like all

11:29

your total seven like oh he's

11:31

got real being as bonded about the enneagrams right

11:33

now so in case you didn't know

11:36

the the meaning of that particular phrase there

11:38

you go it's surprised I

11:40

wonder if you could talk to the sorting hat like

11:42

like just I'm gonna just put it on and like

11:45

have chats with it ever do you think you know

11:47

I was having a very similar kind of like thought

11:49

process about this particular thing because it you

11:51

know the the idea here is

11:54

that the for founders placed like

11:56

their intelligence and you know

11:58

they contributed to the creation

12:00

of the hat to best identify features

12:03

and students who would best align with their particular

12:05

house or whatever. But it also makes it seem

12:08

like this is probably a very, very wise

12:11

artifact. There

12:14

should be a lot that could be

12:16

potentially learned from interacting with

12:18

it. And it's sort of like a

12:20

one way to get back to the

12:23

original people, the original

12:25

vision. What was the function of

12:27

the school supposed to be? Where did everybody, where

12:30

did we start? It could be so

12:32

interesting to go back and have a conversation

12:34

with George Washington. It is, this is all

12:36

the more suspicious that they don't know what

12:38

year the school was founded. They

12:41

have a hat that

12:43

can talk and has the minds of all

12:45

four founders, pieces of it in there. The

12:47

hat has been there since the beginning. They

12:49

can ask the hat, when was the school

12:51

founded? The Polyjuice Potion that they're working on

12:54

in Moonee Myrtle's bathroom, hearing the

12:56

voices nobody else can hear, it's never a good sign, even in

12:58

the Wizarding World. These

13:00

are all things that Dumbledore should be being

13:02

made aware of just simply by being in

13:04

Harry's presence inside of this moment. Yeah, I

13:06

literally just drew a big box around everything

13:09

Harry thinks after Dumbledore asks in that question.

13:11

And it's like, does he read his mind

13:13

and just sort of get all that information

13:15

from him by asking the question? Is

13:18

that what your interpretation is? That would be

13:20

my takeaway, yes. So I think

13:22

this might be the reason where

13:26

more conversation could or would have

13:28

taken place. But I think that

13:31

Dumbledore might be recognizing in Harry,

13:34

there's a reason that Harry thinks that he's, he

13:37

needs to keep this to himself, but at the

13:39

very least, I know exactly

13:41

where he's at. So it's like,

13:44

there's nothing else. Dumbledore, when Harry says

13:46

no, said Harry, there isn't anything, Professor.

13:48

That's the end of the scene. Right,

13:50

then we shift away. Right,

13:52

we leave it entirely. To me, it's sort

13:54

of like, all I can imagine is that

13:56

Dumbledore says very well, and then

13:59

Harry asks. exit. Right. Yeah. Like,

14:01

Oh, okay. Good. Good chat. Right. Telling

14:03

me about your bird. But like, so,

14:05

cause so then when he asks the

14:07

question, is he, is this just like

14:09

a legitimate trick to be like, Oh

14:11

yeah, don't think of an elephant. You

14:14

know, yeah. Right. Right. Harry, what do you

14:16

know about the problems? Nothing. What all of

14:18

them, you know, it's

14:20

like, so is he doing that to like, get

14:23

him to think of all the things or is

14:25

this also just the question itself? Like I must

14:27

ask you, Harry, whether there's anything you like to

14:29

tell me? Like is he, is he trying to

14:31

make him think of all the things he knows

14:33

or is he generally also like

14:35

testing him? Like will Harry tell

14:37

me? Like, do you trust me?

14:40

Right. Right. Which I mean, maybe it's like one of

14:42

those things like we're Dumbledore needs to know like where

14:44

Harry's at. I mean, there's, there's also the sentiment that

14:47

like coming into Harry school or

14:49

time at Hogwarts, lots of the, the death

14:51

eaters believe that Harry could be the second

14:53

coming of the dark Lord. Right. And in

14:55

this particular situation, maybe you've got

14:58

an instance where like Voldemort, not Voldemort, Dumbledore

15:00

himself is just sort of like, I need

15:04

to get a test on this. Where is Harry's

15:06

head at? Right. You know, like, like whether or

15:08

not he's willing to tell me, like, I'll know.

15:10

I don't know. I mean, it's kind

15:12

of hard to interpret exactly like what all Dumbledore

15:14

sort of has in his hand at this particular

15:16

moment, or if he's even aware that like upon

15:19

entering the room, Harry may have like gone like

15:21

lifted, you know, the, the sorting

15:23

cat from its shelf and interacted with it

15:25

in that way. Like it's all, it's all

15:27

a big question of like, what is Dumbledore

15:29

trying to learn about Harry inside of this

15:31

situation? Right. I don't know. Yeah.

15:33

It's like, I think, I think he

15:35

probably does get a lot of that information

15:37

from him, but even if that's the case,

15:39

then you'd think he knows that like he

15:41

can hear the voices and should like be

15:43

able to pick out that it's like a snake

15:46

or something. Cause now he would know that he's

15:48

a parcel mouth at this point because that has

15:50

happened in the whole school knows. Right. You know,

15:52

he's hearing voices like it seems

15:54

like Dumbledore should be able

15:57

to piece together snake, Voldemort,

15:59

Basilisk, petrification. Like it

16:01

feels like if he knows Harry can hear

16:03

the voices like enough pieces should be on

16:05

the table for him to figure it out

16:07

Yeah, I agree with you. That's that's where

16:09

it's like It's like we we the reader

16:11

at this stage in in going through the

16:13

the story We don't know nearly enough to

16:15

be able to be putting together What Dumbledore

16:17

who should be a living breathing character

16:19

inside of this world who is very

16:22

wise very intelligent who has been like?

16:24

Monitoring, you know Tom Riddle's existence for

16:26

most of Tom Riddle's life It

16:29

seems like he should be able to sort of be like,

16:31

okay, I think I know what's going on here right, but

16:33

this again is like one of those questions where it like

16:35

it goes back to You

16:37

know philosopher stone where we have always sort of

16:39

harped heavily on that sentiment that Harry expresses at

16:42

the end raise like I feel Like Dumbledore thought

16:44

that I deserved a chance if I wanted to

16:46

like go for it And the question

16:48

here is sort of like is the same

16:50

thing happening like is Dumbledore sort of like

16:53

I know that there are attacks But

16:55

I sort of need to like Like

16:58

I could I could step in I could close the

17:00

school I could Be more

17:02

active in some capacity because that's the weird thing

17:05

about like all this stuff It's happening is like

17:07

if these attacks were happening in any other school.

17:09

They would absolutely be actions take oh Yeah,

17:12

then there's more about that later when they're

17:14

talking to Malfoy down in the Slytherin common

17:16

room Where they're like where he

17:18

like Malfoy's like it's kind of weird the

17:20

Daily Prophet isn't like reporting on these attacks

17:22

And it's just like it

17:24

really is weird Yeah, that it

17:26

hasn't been I mean it's like I suppose Dumbledore's hushing it all

17:28

up And it's like he's probably right

17:31

which is like also kind of

17:33

weird and feels irresponsible like like

17:36

this Shouldn't shouldn't the

17:39

parents know about this right

17:42

right? Yeah, it's like yeah, like what do the

17:44

creepy? Parents know about Collins

17:46

current status right are they just like

17:48

boy it was sure fun sending our

17:50

kid to wizard school We can't wait

17:52

to see all those pictures when he

17:54

gets back boy howdy hmm. Yeah, yeah,

17:56

never mind Sorry, he was petrified for

17:58

most of the years guys year

18:00

one right it's gonna be really

18:02

difficult right also he may eventually

18:05

die yeah whoops whoops oh

18:07

well not oh well it's dudely totally

18:09

super sad thing let's

18:12

see I also thought it was funny though like

18:14

a suit like Harry watches Fox die and then

18:16

Hagrid immediately bursts in carrying a dead rooster it's

18:18

like if your hair like what's everyone got so

18:21

many dead birds man what is the deal with

18:23

the dead birds on those pain bond but yeah

18:25

that so Hagrid busted with another dead rooster which

18:27

is this is like one of those things you're

18:30

paying attention it's like boy there's a bunch of

18:32

dead roosters but like of course unless you're like

18:34

up-to-date on Basilisk lore you're not gonna understand the

18:36

significance of it at all I know that that's

18:39

like one of those where I do wonder in

18:41

my mind a little bit like if you were

18:43

a parent you know especially if you grew up

18:45

like in the UK where it's like part of

18:47

your folklore like was this the kind of thing

18:49

and I guess this question

18:51

probably be targeted like the parents reading

18:54

books to their kids in the same way like

18:56

that our dad was really like like was it

18:58

becoming pretty obvious pretty quickly like what was going

19:00

on like were you were you seeing like the

19:02

details and putting put in the piece yeah well

19:04

I mean at this point you still haven't really

19:06

been introduced to Tom Riddle at all so you

19:08

could still you'd really have no way of knowing

19:10

at all who it is I guess that's right

19:12

yeah yeah although yeah I think that's the other

19:14

thing too is that like as far as we're

19:16

concerned like it sort of

19:19

feels like Harry has defeated Voldemort

19:21

at the end of the last book as

19:23

well so the question is sort of like

19:25

you know will will it be Voldemort again

19:27

I know exactly it's like how could it

19:29

possibly even even if you were like the

19:31

most astute person ever and you'd figured out

19:34

they're like boy Ginny Weasley sure is acting

19:36

persnickety and weird over there like right still

19:38

couldn't piece together that it's Voldemort right right

19:40

yeah unless I mean you could you could

19:42

you could suspect but you'd have no way

19:44

of getting to Voldemort other

19:46

than he's the bad guy obviously

19:48

for the whole story and

19:50

then like Dumbledore is like it's not a question

19:52

of how or not a question of who but of

19:55

how it's like well so Dumbledore feels like he knows

19:57

who it is so like you could

19:59

guess Voldemort but still still how? Right.

20:02

Right. Well, that's another question too. So

20:04

we know eventually that in this chapter,

20:06

um, Malfoy will pull out

20:09

the newspaper clipping about, although I don't

20:11

think it has anything to do with

20:13

the raid on the

20:15

Malfoy residents. Does it? No, it just

20:17

has to do with Arthur

20:19

Weasley being fined for the flying

20:21

car. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Which is

20:24

like also kind of like, boy,

20:26

it took all the, that happened

20:30

on September 1st and it took

20:33

them all the way until December

20:36

to send in Sim to

20:38

do something about it. Do something about it. Yeah.

20:40

Like what was happening the rest of the time?

20:42

Yeah. I have no idea. Yeah. It feels like

20:44

way too much time for, for that punishment to

20:46

have been doled out. Absolutely. Feels like way too

20:48

much time, especially if it's like Harry does

20:51

a hover charm, you know, they're like, they send him

20:53

an owl later that day and it's like, you're expelled.

20:55

I felt like the cinnamon owl,

20:57

like later that like minute. Yeah. Like, come

21:00

on now. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. They're very

21:02

quick about some things and very slow about

21:04

others. Yeah. So Fred and George

21:06

thing, it's hilarious that anyone thinks Harry is

21:08

the heir of Slytherin and they're just marching

21:10

up to the hallway saying make way for

21:12

the heir of Slytherin, seriously evil wizard, which

21:14

I love that like this makes Harry

21:16

feel better. Cause it's like his work. Like this is

21:18

what he's afraid everyone's thinking, but it's like the fact

21:21

that they're joking about it makes it seem

21:23

like, yes, it's so absurd. No one could

21:25

possibly really think that right. Um, so Percy

21:27

was deeply disapproving of this behavior. Uh, you

21:30

know, as I think when you're the reader, when

21:32

you read that particular line, it's just like, how

21:34

dare Harry steal his thunder? You know, like that's,

21:37

that's what that line is supposed to make. You

21:39

think that like Percy doesn't like Fred and George

21:41

doing this because he knows he's the one doing

21:43

it and he's like having his thunder stolen, which

21:45

I think then, um, they even

21:47

say about Draco later on this page, they're like,

21:49

Oh, it's because Draco's dying to tell

21:51

everyone it's him. And it's like, yes, Drake, the

21:54

characters think Draco thinks that and you, the reader

21:56

think Percy thinks that. Well, that's the thing. Yeah.

21:59

Like, I mean, I'm still struggling

22:01

with it because like I know as the

22:03

story is unfolding that we are supposed to

22:05

be looking at Percy and thinking That he's

22:07

the massive red herring. Yeah, and for whatever

22:09

reason I Even as focused

22:12

as I am about it even as much as I know that

22:14

it's supposed to be an aspect of the book I'm

22:16

still not sold. Well, I mean I agree with you. Like

22:18

if I just read that I'd just be like I It

22:22

like it took growing up and hearing other people be like

22:24

I thought it was Percy for me to be like what?

22:27

Did you did you I had no idea like

22:29

it did He doesn't come across as a very

22:31

good red herring or like a very obvious one

22:33

as opposed like we're we're obviously diving into it

22:35

a lot because we know that that's supposed to

22:37

be the intent but it's also funny to like

22:40

the further we get into it like Almost

22:42

any time Percy's opinions on things are get

22:44

brought up. So do Ginny's right and it's

22:46

like Oh Percy was deeply disapproving of this

22:48

behavior and then like three lines and I

22:50

was like Ginny didn't find it amusing either

22:53

and it's like You

22:55

you it's funny because it actually says the

22:57

same thing like they both feel the same

22:59

way and yet You're supposed to think that

23:01

it's supposed to make you feel suspicious of

23:04

Percy and like sympathetic for Ginny when actually

23:07

Ginny is the one doing it and Percy is just Like

23:10

a stick in the mud. Yeah, right, right,

23:12

right But I suppose that's one of the

23:15

questions as well So like as Ginny like

23:17

this is the least Ginny like Ginny that

23:19

will get throughout the whole series Yeah, like

23:22

she's You

23:24

might you might wonder at this point in time

23:26

whether or not Ginny doesn't like take after Percy

23:28

a little bit personality Why oh sure,

23:30

you know, it's like like she's maybe like a little

23:32

bit more inclined to be like no Like let's follow

23:34

the rules. We're like no like, you know, like whatever

23:38

Whereas like the rest of the like, you know Fred and

23:40

George for example by comparison are just sort of like so

23:43

Thumbing their nose at everything. Yeah all the

23:45

time. It always so maybe on some

23:47

level You're also just supposed to sort of think like

23:49

I you know Ginny's more of like the like the

23:51

Percy of the family and less of the Fred and

23:53

George of the family But as time goes on, it's

23:55

like Ginny is more like Fred and George than anything.

23:57

Oh, absolutely. Yes I feel like more outspoken and popular

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25:35

Well first of all I think it's interesting

25:37

that did they say in the last chapter

25:39

why Draco was staying for Christmas? No

25:43

I didn't have any major recollection on that. Okay

25:45

it's surprising to me because they're like they there's

25:47

an explanation in the chapter for why Crab and

25:49

Goyle do which is just they do whatever Malfoy

25:52

does but it's like why is Draco

25:55

staying at Hogwarts for Christmas?

25:57

Like I I

26:00

don't It seems like he hasn't seen his

26:02

parents since September. There

26:04

is only their, you know, he's their only

26:06

son. I know. Yeah, that's the

26:08

thing. And like I sort of

26:10

mean you go back to like the like

26:14

the sentiment that like, okay,

26:16

so it's inside of the same sequence here. So

26:19

this is talking about Fred and George, it says,

26:21

but their antics seem to be aggravating Draco Malfoy,

26:23

who looked increasingly sour each time he saw them

26:25

at it. This is kind of one of those

26:27

things where it's like, it really starts to point

26:30

like a smoking gun

26:32

at Draco. Right. Because it's like, I

26:34

can't really think of like, why

26:37

Draco is, is having this

26:39

particular reaction. Like Ron

26:41

says, it's because he's person say it's really him. And it's like,

26:43

I mean, it seems like a pretty good theory based on like

26:45

where we're at in the book and everything.

26:48

Yeah. But it's also like, but

26:50

Draco doesn't actually have any involvement at

26:52

all. Right. Like,

26:55

is he just mad that hair is getting attention? Period.

26:58

I have no idea. Yeah. Like, I

27:00

mean, it's, I mean, but there are people from like, like Harry's

27:02

own house. So it's like, Drake,

27:04

are you even trying to like win those people's attention

27:06

or I don't know. Like, I mean, it's,

27:08

it's kind of odd, but yeah, I mean, why

27:11

does Draco stay behind? Like what, like, does he just

27:13

like want like a front row seat? It's like

27:16

whatever is happening or like, is

27:18

Draco in some way, like a little bit frustrated

27:20

that like Harry is getting like credit for being

27:23

the one who opened it. Like

27:25

when, when like Draco like would own like,

27:27

like by his own mission, he's like, you know, saying like

27:30

he would, I wish I did know who it was because

27:32

that could be helping. You know, it's

27:34

like, is he like, I know, right? Like, I

27:36

mean, is, is Draco just like frustrated? Like Harry is

27:38

like involved and he doesn't actually know how Harry got

27:40

to be involved. And he's like, well, I

27:43

wish I was involved. I know. I mean, that could very much be it. We

27:46

know Draco is absolutely obsessed with Harry most of the time. But

27:50

I guess we'll get a little bit more into Draco here as

27:52

we get, we visit him in the common room, but let's see.

27:54

Then we, oh, it's

27:57

interesting. The. rest

28:00

of the Weasleys stay at Hogwarts

28:03

as well, which I suspect

28:06

it, like I suspect, well, they say it's

28:08

because Mr. and

28:10

Mrs. Weasley are visiting Bill

28:13

in Egypt, which I

28:15

think is crazy because we know they're gonna do that

28:17

exact same thing this upcoming summer.

28:20

Yes. You know, with the whole family

28:22

this time. After they

28:25

win the lottery, which I believe is 700

28:28

galleons. I was gonna say, I know it's like an

28:30

odd amount. It's like you give you like 500 or

28:32

like 100, 700 though. I'm pretty

28:35

sure it's 700 galleons. Okay. So they're visiting

28:38

him for what? I don't know, several, I

28:40

guess, I guess a couple weeks here and

28:42

it only, like

28:45

they, it's funny to me when in prison of

28:47

Azkaban, it's like we won the lottery and we

28:49

took the whole family to Egypt and then we

28:51

basically spend all of it, all 700 galleons

28:54

and it's like, okay. Oh,

28:56

if that's what it costs, then that's what it costs. But like, like

29:00

you can travel by magic and

29:03

like the two of you went there for

29:05

apparently the entire Christmas break just

29:07

on your own. Right. And it even says Fred, George

29:09

and Ginny had chosen to stay at school rather than

29:11

visit Bill in Egypt. So they

29:13

could have, right? They could have. Yeah. I want

29:16

to spend that money on. Especially, especially

29:18

because later this exact chapter, we're gonna

29:20

find out that the Weasleys are apparently

29:22

like 50 galleons in the hole to

29:24

this fine for the

29:26

floating car. I know. And if you go back to

29:28

earlier in the chapter, when they visit the Weasleys vault,

29:30

I think there was just a single galleon available.

29:33

So like, I mean that 50, that 50

29:35

galleon fine, I mean, is really, it's pretty

29:37

steep. That's pretty steep. That's pretty causing, that's

29:39

causing some, like some issues in the middle.

29:41

Yes. Like how were they going to bring

29:43

the entire family to go to Egypt? 50

29:47

galleons in the hole when apparently it

29:49

takes upwards of 700 to

29:51

do it. I mean, I guess they were there for like, like

29:54

a month or something. Yeah. So maybe they're

29:57

like paying for accommodations the entire time. It

30:00

still seems like they were going to

30:02

be there for like a week. So we would only cost

30:04

a quarter of that amount. I don't think they have that.

30:07

Well, I mean, yes, at least it has

30:09

not been very detailed out where that money

30:11

would come from otherwise. Yeah. But

30:13

yeah, no, I had the exact I highlighted the exact same thing.

30:15

I was like, this is so odd that they're going to visit.

30:17

I mean, not that you can't visit your son, you know,

30:21

more than one time per year.

30:23

No, absolutely not. It is interesting

30:25

that like that is that like

30:27

it's the catalyst for a huge

30:30

amount of the rest of the story.

30:32

Like the Weasleys going on the trip

30:34

to Egypt is so vital because they're

30:36

in the paper and because they're in

30:38

the paper, Sirius Black, who's an Azkaban,

30:40

is able to see that Peter is

30:44

still alive. Right. So if

30:46

the Weasleys don't win the lottery, then

30:48

like the serious breakout.

30:52

Maybe not. You did a what if on

30:54

this. I think I yeah, I think you're right. I think you're

30:56

right. Well, like, I mean, it feels like no. I

30:59

mean, it feels it feels less likely. Right. At

31:01

least all the cuff. So anyway, the

31:03

point is, is that it's such a

31:06

major plot point because also the whole

31:08

debacle between Sirius and Peter and Peter's

31:10

ultimate escape is what leads to him

31:12

going and seeking back out Voldemort and

31:14

basically helping in one

31:16

of the most crucial ways to restore Voldemort

31:18

to his body. And then

31:20

ultimately the rest of the plot. So anyway,

31:22

it's just it's just interesting that there's just

31:24

this other other trip to Egypt. And

31:27

what is Charlie doing for Christmas? You know, poor

31:29

Charlie, poor Charles is completely forgotten about there comes

31:31

in last book, takes a dragon from everyone. Do

31:33

you know, didn't have to do that. No, just

31:36

while he doesn't do it, he just sends his

31:38

friends to do it. But let's see. Why does

31:40

it build up hope for Christmas? You know, no

31:42

one's visited the Weasleys for Christmas. I know. Seriously.

31:46

Come on, guys. This

31:49

like Dumbledore's big plan wise, the reason

31:51

it would be like, no, Mr. And

31:53

Mrs. Weaves there almost like told to

31:55

go to Egypt so that so that

31:57

the Weasley kids can stay with Harry.

32:00

Yes, and I think that this

32:02

even actually if we go back to book one I'm

32:04

pretty sure there was a reason why Ron stuck

32:06

around at Christmas as well And that was sort of our

32:08

sentiment is that it's sort of like yes Ron

32:11

because then otherwise Harry would be alone

32:13

yeah, and mr. Mrs. Weasley understood

32:15

as much as they probably wanted to see

32:17

their son that it probably better for you

32:19

know Harry to not be completely lonely right

32:21

just speaks to their total saintliness exactly

32:25

Yes So I love

32:27

that Percy's reasoning for saying is

32:29

he'd already told them pompously that he was almost

32:31

saying over Christmas because it was his duty as

32:33

a Prefect to support the teachers during this troubled

32:35

time which is just like did the other

32:38

Prefects stay too because it sure

32:40

doesn't seem like it Well,

32:42

do you think that the like he said pompously

32:45

that this is the reason do you think the

32:47

actual reason is because he's in a Relationship with

32:49

oh the real reason is because of Penelope. Yeah,

32:51

okay, okay? Yeah, who I think we meet later

32:53

the chapter I believe we do yes from Ravenclaw

32:56

yeah from Ravenclaw. It's like ah I did like

32:58

what I see what happened It's like oh my

33:00

gosh look at that That's

33:04

the first time you're given like

33:06

a real hint about it right

33:08

like yeah, it's like when I almost

33:10

I almost wish it was mentioned that

33:12

that Ravenclaw coming up was a prefect

33:14

oh Yeah, it's like it's not

33:16

but like maybe that would have been too obvious or

33:18

something right It's just like there's just a Ravenclaw coming

33:20

up from the dungeons, and you're just like yeah

33:23

I guess why I guess she could be

33:25

whatever it's like you don't piece together right away that

33:27

like oh And then they wrote

33:29

it to Percy down there right right right

33:31

what what a non romantic place to go

33:33

and meet up all the time Apparently yeah

33:36

in an entire castle Day,

33:38

it's like what you want to go you want to meet in the dungeons Like

33:42

how really yeah kind of clammy

33:44

and dank I know It's

33:46

like we could just like hang out in the

33:48

Great Hall or go to Hogsbeet or something Like

33:51

then people will see yes, and we can't I'm

33:53

embarrassed by you oh Okay,

33:56

I guess let us be true the dungeons

33:59

great How fun.

34:01

I know. You're so fun to date. Perfect.

34:03

Yeah. So then as we move forward, though,

34:05

um, yeah, so it is, it is the

34:07

holidays and we know that this is going

34:09

to be the grand opportunity for

34:12

them to do the apologies to potion, but

34:14

not before Harry gets some of his, um,

34:16

annual Christmas gifts, which I do

34:19

literally every single book. I always enjoy like

34:21

whatever he gets. The list of gifts he

34:23

gets. Yes. Yes. It's always really fun. Um,

34:26

so I am, I am kind of maybe

34:28

mildly impressed with the Dursleys and not that

34:30

they sent him a toothpick, but that

34:32

they sent him a toothpick via Hedwig.

34:34

That's true. It's like, how'd they

34:36

do that? I have no idea. Like did Hedwig like

34:38

show up and I mean, I guess what you could

34:40

almost imagine is that they've been too

34:43

obvious or something, but it's just like, there's just

34:45

a Ravenclaw coming up from the dungeon and you're

34:47

just like, yeah, I guess why? I

34:49

guess she could be whatever. It's like you don't

34:51

piece together right away that like, Oh, and then

34:54

they wrote it to Percy down there. Right. Right.

34:56

Right. What a, what a non romantic place to

34:58

go and meet up all the time.

35:00

Apparently. Yeah. And an entire castle it's like, what

35:02

do you want to go? You want to go

35:04

meet in the dungeons? It's like, how really?

35:07

Yeah. Kind of clammy and dank.

35:09

I know. It's

35:12

like, we could just like hang out in the

35:14

great hall or go to Hogsbeet or something. It

35:16

was like, then people will see us. Now we

35:18

can't, I'm embarrassed by you. Oh, okay.

35:21

I guess I just beat you with the

35:23

dungeons. Great. How

35:26

fun. I know. You're so fun to date.

35:28

Oh yeah. So then as we move forward

35:30

though, um, yeah, so it is, it is

35:32

the holidays and we know that this is

35:34

going to be the grand opportunity for

35:37

them to do the apologies to potion, but

35:39

not before Harry gets some of his, um,

35:41

annual Christmas gifts, which I do

35:44

literally every single book. I always enjoy like

35:46

whatever he gets a list of gifts he

35:48

gets. Yes. Yes. It's always really fun. Um,

35:51

although I am, I am kind of maybe

35:53

mildly impressed with the Dursleys and not that

35:55

they sent him a toothpick, but that they

35:57

sent him a toothpick via head wig. That's

35:59

true. It's. Like how they do

36:01

that I have no idea elected head would like show

36:04

up in. I mean I guess what you can almost

36:06

imagine is that. They. Would.

36:08

Have just said Nothing. Young. Else

36:11

in in Hebron shows up and like yo you better

36:13

said be something. So. Job I'm not leaving

36:15

to you. Give me something right? So Uma toothache?

36:17

The Uma too thick with a note saying to

36:19

new stay for the summer as well as right.

36:21

Yeah here's what I witnessed. I know I would

36:23

if I could. Dude Meanwhile fast forward two years

36:25

and like I want to go to the credit

36:27

for cover their like. My

36:30

were ah is it.a constant battle

36:32

between making Harry happy and not having

36:34

Harry their exactly yeah, the constant battle.

36:37

The council battle it out so then

36:39

otherwise he gets Ah just for

36:41

fun trivia reasons from Haggerty gets a

36:43

large ten of trickle toffee whatever. he

36:46

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36:48

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36:50

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right? Yes. But now I will always

37:52

and forever young me I guess the

37:54

Our or admin forget again. Yep!

37:56

Large plum. Takes.

37:58

the sylvia really good question for people to ask us

38:00

when we're on tour. Like we can like plant the

38:03

seed right now. Like in year two,

38:05

what does Mrs. Weasley give to Harry? So if

38:07

you're at the tour and you meet us and

38:09

you wanna ask us a question, that'd be a

38:11

great question to ask. And then you can totally

38:13

put us on the spot and we'll be like,

38:15

ah, crap, we put you up to this.

38:18

Which by the way, if you didn't know,

38:21

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38:27

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38:29

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sale now at supercarlinbrothers.com. Yes, yes

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they are, yes. And I

38:36

think that the New York City

38:38

listing in particular has like a really weird

38:40

way to like upgrade to like the

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VIP ticket if you wanna come and like do like a little

38:44

meet and greet with us and stuff. Get like a signed poster

38:46

and things. So it's like one

38:48

of those things, you can click around on the website a little bit.

38:50

Oh yeah. Yeah, I think it's

38:52

like hidden. Like you almost have to

38:54

like Easter egg hunting to find a way to do the

38:57

bonus little things. You'd think they'd want that like

38:59

right front and center. You'd think so, you'd think so.

39:01

Make it really obvious for people to upgrade here. But in

39:03

case you wanted to meet us actually and have a conversation

39:06

and take a picture and stuff like that, you can do

39:08

so. Link and all the show

39:10

notes and all that type of stuff. I know,

39:12

have you like counted ahead to see what chapters

39:14

we'll be on then? I think that we're gonna

39:16

be just kicking off Prisoner of Azkaban. Oh really?

39:18

I believe so. Oh, okay, that's exciting. So it

39:20

should be a lot of fun. It will be,

39:22

yeah. Although I'm like already terrified at

39:25

the thought of having to talk about Aunt Marge in front of a group

39:27

of people because I hate Aunt

39:29

Marge. That's just gonna be good fodder for

39:31

the crowd. I know, I know. As you,

39:33

people are gonna see me, people are gonna

39:36

see me turn plum cake colored. Plum colored.

39:38

Yeah, just having that. You're gonna see plum

39:40

men. She's just so mean. She's quite the

39:42

worst. Yes, she is quite the

39:44

worst. She's like very much like a

39:46

forerunner for like Umbridge or something. She definitely

39:49

is. Yeah. Yes, yes. Just

39:51

like why are you being so mean? Why? Why are you

39:53

gonna be? Like going out of your way for it. I know, I know.

39:55

I don't get it. I Don't like it.

39:57

What I do think is hilarious is as they're

39:59

describing. Christmas dinner. Ah,

40:02

I'm with As Enchanted There was falling warm

40:04

and dry for the sea legs. Dumbledore let

40:06

the but a few of his favorite carols.

40:10

He did a classic doubled a

40:12

killer who are with most effective

40:15

at this dinner apparently like. The.

40:17

The Weasley kids. All. Of

40:20

them. Harry. Draco Crab Goyal

40:22

and Penelope Clearwater. That's like that known

40:24

attendees left at the school I think

40:26

is a handful of other Southern because

40:28

when they go on the common room

40:30

I think it even says there's like

40:33

a small a small clubs in front

40:35

of the fire. Okay so so like

40:37

maybe a few more Southern's. And.

40:39

Dumbledore is up there. I'm just imagining

40:42

Draco watching Dumbledore lead Terrell like is

40:44

the model, is like Draco join in

40:46

of them. Jingle Bells or something? maybe

40:48

so. He says I'll

40:51

swap for they I just can't help it

40:53

For a Go Love single bell threat Draco

40:55

oddly jolly his yeah you know what the

40:57

guy likes Christmas? You know you get stuff

40:59

he gets tough Know how many all their

41:01

how many? All that it I mean that

41:03

tracks was like Draco as had so many

41:05

ways as the Wizard of Version of Dudley.

41:08

Like the spoiled rich kid does. Answer: I

41:11

would not surprise me if he's like you

41:13

know really if he just enjoys Christmas in

41:15

that way I could see it but you

41:17

know what? New had Ten and Draco his

41:19

favorite Christmas carols Jingle Bells Yes yeah okay

41:21

maybe maybe this year old will make a

41:23

special piece of of like Draco Jingle Bell

41:25

Mertz Oh my gosh it's like a yeah

41:27

like an ugly Draco sweater where he just

41:29

like like served as oh my gosh you're

41:31

really to put like a real if it

41:33

is a habit that is a good ugly

41:35

sweater that has a Jingle Bell on it

41:37

is oh my. Gosh, yes, beard or

41:39

I was. Someone write that down right

41:42

down. Remind us now has a good

41:44

one. I'm one of the things. I

41:46

actually highlighted this because I thought that

41:48

I was reading it in a completely

41:50

different contexts, but sell their after the

41:52

Christmas Feast and it says here he

41:55

didn't even care that Draco Malfoy is

41:57

making loud, snide remarks about as new

41:59

sweater from the Southern Table. literally. the

42:01

way I read it was not as

42:03

if Draco was making fun of Harrys

42:05

sweater, but that Draco was bragging about

42:07

his own. Have you

42:10

know I'm reading or right now I'm like

42:12

her didn't together during among well said works

42:14

on his on. I'm not sure we don't

42:16

feel like have misplaced modifier kind of situation like

42:18

I don't know what it says his and

42:20

it's like who who was a referencing Draco

42:22

or Harry I know exactly as I literally

42:24

was about the right the know, like what

42:26

twelve year old was bragging about their new sweater

42:28

it off as up for Christmas. Of

42:30

loudly but loudly I have another. or

42:33

when I was making fun of Harrys.

42:35

Flutter! Both seem equally likely to

42:37

me I suppose so now but like

42:39

I am the that's your thing since

42:42

we've literally just talked about the Draco

42:44

sweater so maybe has bragged night assess

42:46

whether just sitting there like wow, crab

42:49

and royal Have you noticed the hand

42:51

stitched cashmere sweater I got? It's rather

42:53

darling. Darling

42:56

it says single Bells

42:58

Jingle Bells Jingle all

43:01

the way. I

43:04

it's okay as far as I. Buzzard is

43:06

bragging about his own sweater. Here is

43:08

our major on of Harrys Bird: The

43:10

sweater yes of this is your life

43:12

may have mom and dad hooks be

43:15

ah, a loving God sweaters a suit

43:17

his his newsletter day or secretarial also

43:19

have a lot. There's also a lighter

43:22

that have Hagrid booming more more loudly

43:24

with every goblet of eggnog he consumed

43:26

with. just to me, it suggests that

43:28

there's alcohol and the eggnog the right

43:31

yeah, which is surprising to be at

43:33

the school sanctioned Christmas dinner. With

43:35

the with the the kids there are they

43:37

like that will hold you guys. don't stick

43:40

with an eggnog. see how rest of us

43:42

are for you as from the teacher stable?

43:44

Yeah, absolutely. I think that that's probably most

43:47

likely that or or hagrid as has brought

43:49

his and his breath. My sister is a

43:51

big of the Irish act I heard of

43:53

for medicinal purposes. Backers: Yes, Natural.

43:57

It's alright. let's see our we all. We

43:59

all have it. The Christmas dinner here

44:01

and then her my me starts to

44:03

I tell them the plan for how

44:05

they're going to do the apologist motion

44:08

because it's finally ready. Would manager reading

44:10

this? Ah I'm. I like it.

44:12

When I was a kid it felt like

44:14

it took forever for them to get to

44:16

the policies potion. yeah hair, brunette, just like

44:18

for one like a full year something like

44:20

now they can up pretty quick the i

44:22

think I'm area it's here it comes to

44:24

other rather quickly doff. I think this is

44:27

probably going back to again. Like dad reading

44:29

us like one chapter. yeah you know like

44:31

per night on the weekends and so like

44:33

you'd read a chapter than it would take

44:35

take a week. So it probably took us

44:37

three weeks to get here. that's true in

44:39

our young in real time as as young.

44:41

Kids Raj August one will cost of

44:43

one ever. Yeah, After guess of

44:45

yours him to the podcast me that how long

44:48

it's been developed. boy when we're her of the

44:50

apologists motion a long time so I guess what

44:52

you have a real go once after the time

44:54

well we are yup they do you guess for

44:56

being here by the way I'm also I'm not

44:59

the sentiments ah I think it's from her mine

45:01

he yeah she says that the amount of time

45:03

Macapagal her mouth was best friends he'll tell him

45:05

anything I know I am I from any help

45:07

us to know about Draco an hour exactly. Come

45:10

on now. Have. To give him a

45:12

lot of credit here, but I feel like it's

45:14

it does speak to how her mind. he feels

45:16

about Harry and Ron. I'm It may be that

45:18

maybe our what's going on like he's projected like

45:20

her own right like us on our best friends

45:23

works. Yeah, I would help you guys anything. but

45:25

I get agree with am I'm on. I'm like.

45:27

I don't think Draco would tell crappy Goyal everything

45:29

I've Yeah, no, absolutely not. I don't think they're

45:31

even friends. rather more like cronies. They are like

45:33

cronies. Yeah, yeah, it seems very different kind of

45:36

it. Said it's hard. Yeah, you're right. It doesn't

45:38

feel like their friends doctor Joseph like goofing off

45:40

together. like getting. Into their own highjinks or dislike.

45:42

Doing. what he says exactly yeah yeah yeah

45:45

now so i i would not market as

45:47

as friendship as is never how really reads

45:49

the me as if as if there's a

45:51

genuine kinship somehow in their yards it also

45:53

even seems like once eventual a crab goyal

45:56

sorta like come to their own a little

45:58

bit ah i'm in learn some dark

46:00

magic like that they turn on Draco

46:02

anyway right we don't need you anymore

46:05

like like we

46:07

guys ever like was there ever anything there was it's more

46:09

like a more of like a like a thuggish

46:12

version of Peter Pettigrew yeah sort

46:14

of just seems like what it

46:16

was like yeah yeah Draco's you

46:18

know great well he'll protect us

46:20

or he'll he's our leader or yeah like

46:22

he brings us status and we bring him

46:25

protection or something like that I don't know

46:27

yeah yeah maybe that just status yeah yeah

46:29

exactly they do

46:31

the the the two plump chocolate

46:33

cakes filled with a simple sleeping

46:35

draft that is

46:37

basically the the setup for

46:40

the phrase how thick can you get which

46:43

is one of those that I'm totally glad they they

46:45

borrowed over from for the movies yeah that Ron whispers

46:47

as crab and goil just gleefully point them out and

46:49

and stuff them into their faces oh I know I

46:52

love their bodies played who's like all you have to

46:54

do is make sure crab and go find them you

46:56

know how great they are they're bound to eat them

46:58

just like that's your plan I know this feels more

47:00

like a setup like a video game or something it's

47:03

like just leave the cake somewhere like as long as

47:05

I see them they'll eat they'll eat it and it's

47:07

sort of like in like the in video game land

47:09

you're like okay that's fine that's like a reasonable premise

47:12

when you think about like real people it's like like

47:14

oh I'm walking through a hallway hey to chocolate

47:16

cakes I shall eat them I will

47:18

be consuming exactly that seems unlikely I

47:21

know for them to eat them right away

47:23

right yeah they don't just like come to

47:25

take them like this is in the movie

47:27

even they're like both already carrying handfuls of

47:29

cupcakes or something right they find to them

47:31

and they're like I guess we'll eat these

47:34

right away may as well may as well

47:36

but and yet despite the seemingly

47:38

unthought-out in this of this plan and

47:40

the assumptions of the greediness of crab

47:42

and goil this totally works exactly

47:44

as planned exactly as planned yeah I mean that

47:46

that is kind of remarkable the thing that I

47:49

found to be kind of interesting is that I'm

47:52

jumping ahead a little bit

47:54

here but they they successfully

47:57

drink their toilet seat glass

47:59

tumblers of gloop that

48:02

apologies hooch yeah yeah that's

48:05

hilarious there

48:07

thought of it that way but they don't

48:10

know where the slither in common oh my

48:12

god dude I high rated I highlighted that

48:14

exact thing like you guys

48:16

couldn't figure that part out ahead of

48:18

time yeah like whoops you guys successfully

48:21

were able to get Lockhart to give

48:23

you the written permission

48:25

to go to the restricted section

48:27

you successfully found the book that

48:29

had the ingredients then you stole

48:31

those ingredients from one of the

48:34

most nefarious teachers in the school

48:36

you then brewed this highly complicated

48:38

potion as second years in just a

48:40

public restroom that anybody can walk into

48:42

at any point in time right or

48:44

we're like Myrtle could just go and

48:46

tell on you to literally anyone else

48:49

and all of this has been successful

48:51

you get that the pieces of people

48:53

you're attempting to turn into but you

48:55

never stop to wonder where the southern

48:57

common room is I know I know

48:59

I was like guys come on and

49:02

not only that we know they had

49:04

months of time to figure it out

49:06

exactly and they only have one hour

49:08

to work with I know it's like

49:10

this is a lot of work to

49:12

be inside of the hour and then

49:14

start problem-solving I know like come guys

49:16

it is like a very weird gap

49:18

in the plan but they absolutely should

49:20

have accounted for especially because they're like

49:22

I guess we'll have to go hope

49:24

we see some Slytherins and it's like

49:26

as as established inside the chapter

49:29

like most of them are gone right you're

49:31

inside of a gigantic castle where you can

49:33

spend 15 minutes walking

49:35

in the direction of the place

49:37

you're attempting to go like it's

49:39

like the likelihood of passing by

49:41

someone who isn't just already in

49:43

their common room or completely elsewhere

49:45

it's like you're you're slim

49:47

to none odds here I know like it is it is

49:49

a very bad apart especially because it

49:51

would be so easy to figure out

49:53

where it is like just

49:56

follow them down like I mean

49:58

you could You also

50:00

just have the invisibility cloak so you could

50:02

sneakily follow them down But like no one's

50:04

gonna stop you from just walking in the

50:06

same direction as the other Slytherins

50:09

You know like they can't stop you from following

50:11

them Right. There's not like

50:13

you're breaking the rules clearly Percy and Penelope

50:15

are already spending a lot of time down

50:18

there It's a place to be I guess

50:20

so yeah, right like there's even classes down

50:22

there You know like snake this is where

50:24

the potions classes right? anyway,

50:26

yeah escaping hole in the planet

50:28

that they don't know where the Slytherin common room

50:31

is ahead of time and are relying on running

50:33

into somebody and By the

50:35

grace of God run into Draco. I know I

50:37

know yeah very lucky But that's the only thing

50:39

too is it's not they haven't thought of anything

50:42

they think of like we're gonna need bigger shoes

50:44

We're gonna need bigger roads Yeah, like the amount

50:46

of other things they think of right and then

50:48

not this one but not this one Which is

50:50

like the vitalist of information to it My

50:53

suspicion here is that like the real

50:55

trick was there wasn't that much conversation

50:58

that actually needed to transpire between Draco

51:01

and crab and goil and it was

51:03

like hard to think of like what

51:05

else they would do for the remainder of

51:07

this hour Right so they needed like it

51:10

to be a time crunch right like to be like

51:12

a waste of time there Yeah, basically. Yeah, so it's

51:14

like we need to burn like approximately 52

51:17

minutes of their hour and leave room for

51:19

about eight minutes worth of discussion right yeah

51:22

and then I also The

51:24

other part of the plan that I think is

51:26

really funny is when her mind is like I

51:29

got Melissa Bolstrode's hair She's like she's

51:31

got home for Christmas, so I just have to tell the Slytherin's

51:33

I decided to come back. I was like sure

51:36

Sure You

51:39

know how halfway through spring break you just

51:41

start going back to school right right right

51:43

You know how when you're on break you

51:45

end it early No But

51:49

also I mean if you were to genuinely get

51:51

inside of this and like you know like let's

51:53

say Like like today has we're recording

51:55

so one of one of the one of our office mates

51:58

works from home on this particular particular

52:00

like Wednesday or whatever. It's like if she just

52:02

showed up halfway through the day, I wouldn't exactly

52:04

be like, are you even the real cat? Right.

52:07

You know, that's like what a funny pun for

52:09

this exact situation. Yeah, that is really funny because

52:11

Hermione turns into a cat. Yeah. And this person's

52:13

name is cat, but cat with K. Yeah. Yeah.

52:16

Um, but yeah, no, like, I mean, if

52:18

Kat just showed up, I wouldn't be like, wait

52:20

a second. Something weird about this. Yeah. I mean,

52:22

I'd be like, what are you doing here? You

52:24

don't, do you normally work from home on this

52:26

day? Yeah. But like, that's the thing where it's

52:28

like, I suppose Hermione's story is really not very

52:30

good, but also if the person is just standing

52:32

in front of you in the flesh, it's like,

52:34

well, let's be true. Well, you're here. Exactly. You

52:36

wouldn't, you wouldn't think it's like that. Like this

52:39

is one of the things where when you're inside

52:41

the plane, when you're the one who's taken Polyjuice

52:43

potion, it's like, it's so obvious to you that

52:45

it's happened. Right. You know, like you're the

52:48

center of your own universe. Everyone knows I'm

52:50

probably an imposter, but like clearly to other

52:52

people, it's like, why would you be an

52:54

imposter? But like, but at the same time,

52:56

like if she had to come back and

52:58

be like, oh, I decided to come back

53:00

early. And then like later

53:02

on when the real Millicent comes, like it's

53:05

possible they'll notice that she's not

53:07

there anymore. Sure.

53:10

You know? Yeah, that's true. That's true. Yeah. That, that

53:12

might be like one of those like, didn't Millicent show

53:14

up for like eight minutes?

53:16

Yeah. Where was she? Or like, if you

53:18

guys see her, we were, you know, we're

53:20

going to play a game or something. I

53:22

can't imagine this. So they're playing games for

53:24

some reason, but like they are still 12

53:26

year old. Right. Right. Right. What's the version

53:28

of like, like checking stock prices for wizarding

53:32

high school students? Yeah. It feels like that's what they'd

53:35

be doing. Yeah. Like pushing gold around his table or

53:37

something. Right. Or like, I can imagine like with the

53:39

real, what comes back to you like, Hey, where'd you

53:41

go? I talked to you for

53:43

like 10 minutes. A few days ago,

53:45

you were like, what are you talking about? I've been in home

53:48

skiing with my parents, obviously. And it's like, no,

53:50

you were here. I talked to you. It was like, I wasn't

53:52

here, Draco. I know. Yeah. Oh, you

53:54

were here. I talked to

53:56

you. I'm sure if I am positive,

53:58

wrong, wrong. Go on, didn't we talk to

54:01

Nelson? No. Ha

54:03

ha ha. Dang it! Yeah, he's

54:06

just like, I'm gonna mental break down, he's like, I

54:08

talked to her! You two were

54:10

there! It's like,

54:13

it's like, from our perspective, he would be

54:15

so gas-lit and, you know? Ha ha ha

54:17

ha. Like, you got, oh

54:19

yeah. He's just like mad at them, you're

54:21

like, drink it, we didn't talk to her. Cause

54:24

they're knocked out, so they wouldn't remember it either. That's so

54:26

funny. That's so funny. Okay,

54:28

so anyway, but yeah, so then

54:30

eventually Harry and Ron do successfully

54:32

make it in the direction of

54:34

the Slytherin common room. They run

54:36

into Percy, who is basically, you

54:38

know, it's of

54:41

course down there hanging out with Penelope, and

54:43

then just ends up being classic, classic kind of Percy.

54:47

Oh yeah, oh actually, actually, it's back it up back in the past.

54:49

Okay. There is a part where the,

54:51

before they take the potion, I just thought this was

54:53

interesting. It says, or Hermione informs them,

54:55

we'll have exactly one hour before we

54:58

change back into ourselves, which I feel

55:00

like is very like, like

55:02

it like exactly one hour

55:05

feels like there

55:07

must be part of the ingredient that's like time based.

55:11

You know, like, yes, like they had to

55:13

harvest the one thing like when it was

55:15

moonlight or whatever. So it's like some something

55:17

about it must be like tuned into

55:19

the rotation of the earth or something. Right

55:22

now, you know, I wondered about the same thing

55:24

actually. I'm

55:26

glad you brought it up. I was like, I wonder

55:28

if there is something distinctly like magical

55:33

about time itself

55:36

at all. Like, like I think even like for

55:38

the time turner, so like a very specific amount

55:40

of time that you're able to

55:43

turn them back and nothing more than

55:45

that amount of time. So

55:47

I mean, that is sort of an interesting

55:49

one, unless this is just like, like whoever

55:51

created the potion for Paula Juice is like,

55:53

yeah, typically an hour is about the right

55:55

amount. So we've, we've done the ingredients with

55:58

that in mind. I mean, I guess. Yes, so because

56:00

later on like Barty Carter Jr. will be like

56:02

drinking from the hip flask like every hour on

56:04

the hour Right as like part of the

56:06

thing so it's like and if that's the

56:08

case though It doesn't it seems like there'd

56:10

be a version of making the apologies potion that like

56:13

got you more than an hour Yeah,

56:15

it does seem that way you know, but like but obviously he's

56:17

not doing that. He's still just drinking from it every single hour

56:20

Right, right. Yes, man. It wasn't so

56:22

much work so much work Do you

56:24

think you transform back at night to

56:26

or is he just like not sleeping for full

56:29

nights the entire year? No, there's no way. There's

56:31

no way definitely sleeping in Sparta Cosh Jr. Must

56:33

be must be you'd think you think I would

56:35

think You know those dark detectors. I guess you

56:37

could tell right if someone if your enemies are

56:39

are coming Towards you in the

56:41

night plus you'd have an eye but no you wouldn't

56:44

have the eye if you were asleep because it would

56:46

come out It'll come out. Look that would come that

56:48

would come out every day. You don't think through that

56:50

transformation That'll be so bad miserable exist a man. Yeah,

56:52

we also get to see the color of the Polyjuice

56:55

potion And they add their other things to it Let's

56:58

see that we have a sick sort of yellow The

57:02

khaki color of a booger which is one

57:04

of my favorite descriptions ever And

57:07

it craps a dark murky brown a dark

57:09

murky brown What's interesting is that the cat

57:12

is the one that turns the sick sort

57:14

of yellow Well, I mean

57:16

not to not to go TMI on everybody

57:18

Yeah, but it does seem like cat sick

57:20

is sort of a sick sort of yellow.

57:23

Well, that is disgusting It's almost just sort

57:25

of like a it's like sort of throwing

57:27

shade at the cat. Yeah. Yeah, that's true.

57:29

That's true poor cat Yeah, it's like it's

57:31

like Kevin Goyle We're not really like terribly thrown

57:33

by the khaki color of booger or the dark

57:35

murky brown But this cat did nothing wrong. Yeah,

57:38

like wouldn't it be funny if it was like

57:40

Hermione's like a sparkly pink or something? It's like

57:42

oh my god. Yeah, you're like well, Millicent you're

57:44

like, oh, it wasn't Millicent. It was the cat

57:46

the cat I know justice for this cat. I

57:48

know. Yeah, come on. We're really really throw I

57:50

mean who's because the cat has done nothing wrong.

57:52

It just happens to be owned by Millicent, you

57:54

know, right? It's not its fault or as far

57:56

as we know we assume it's her

57:59

own cat's hair on her, but you know,

58:01

cat hair be everywhere. Cat hair do be

58:04

everywhere. Yeah, it just, who knows? This might

58:06

not even be built with cat. Right. Someone

58:09

in the Slytherin common room has a cat. Someone does, yeah.

58:12

It is kind of funny that she turns into

58:14

a cat and then she later adopts a cat

58:16

in, you know, like just next year. There's like

58:18

almost no like ramifications of her

58:20

turning into a cat, you know?

58:22

There's like no leftover things. And she's just sort of

58:24

like, her mind couldn't go because she turned into a

58:26

cat. And then she was better, moving on. This

58:29

is like one of those things though, that I do sort

58:31

of love about Madame Pomfrey is that I think that there's

58:33

a line literally at the end that says, it's okay, Hermione

58:36

said, Harry, quickly, we'll take you up to the hospital wing.

58:38

Madame Pomfrey never asked too many questions. I

58:40

do sort of like love that about Madame Pomfrey.

58:42

Yeah. That she's just sort of like,

58:44

it's a school full of magical kids. They're gonna

58:46

make mistakes. I'm not here to enforce rules. I

58:49

am here to make sure that they are healthy.

58:51

Right. You know, it's like, because

58:53

you could see a world, especially like given

58:55

like Dumbledore's own relationship with Madame Pomfrey, like

58:57

it seems like kind of close. She

59:00

could be like a little bit more Madame Pince or a

59:02

little bit more McGonagall, like a bit more if I can

59:04

enforce her type. And it's like, nope, not at all. Just

59:06

wanna make sure you're healthy. Yep. I

59:08

mean, even last, even in the first book where Ron

59:10

gets bit by Norbert and has to go to the

59:13

hospital wing, he's like, dog bit me. And it's like

59:15

clearly not, but she doesn't like really press the issue.

59:17

That's true too. Yeah, exactly. That's another instance. So what's

59:19

to keep an eye out for more MVP

59:22

moments from Madame Pomfrey. Yeah. Whose

59:24

middle name, it must be like Violet because that would

59:27

make her initials. MVP. What?

59:29

Yeah, yeah. I love it. Madame, well,

59:31

not Madame. Madame's first name, yeah. Yeah,

59:33

but you know what? I'm okay with

59:36

it. Yeah. I still like a

59:38

world where we've MVP-ified Madame Pomfrey. Oh, for sure, for sure.

59:40

I'm okay with it. All right, so

59:42

they transform. They realize

59:45

they don't know where they're going. They waste a

59:47

bunch of time wandering around. I

59:51

think, I thought it would be, earlier

59:53

when they were at the dinner

59:56

for Christmas, I thought, as I was

59:58

reading, I was like, this should have been a good time to have- and like

1:00:00

to list the other students there and

1:00:02

like mention Penelope in some way. Oh

1:00:04

yeah. I was like, oh yeah, there

1:00:06

was like, and like one prefix from

1:00:08

Ravenclaw or something. Right. You

1:00:11

know, but obviously that she sort of

1:00:13

mentioned here as they are heading down

1:00:15

to the dungeons. She's like, oh, I'm a Ravenclaw. And it's

1:00:17

just like, oh, you know, you

1:00:19

don't even think about it. You don't even think about it.

1:00:21

This is like the, this is the clue. And it's just

1:00:23

like, oh yeah, I guess they ran into someone, but like,

1:00:26

you know, it doesn't feel like this is a

1:00:28

very intentional sentence and yet it's actually hugely important.

1:00:30

It is usually important. Yeah. No, you're right. Actually

1:00:33

on this, on this note, this let me be

1:00:35

less related to Penelope, but more related to just

1:00:37

the Polyjuice in general. One of the things that

1:00:39

I don't like about the movies is that they

1:00:42

use the source actors voice. Oh

1:00:47

yeah. Through the

1:00:50

Polyjuice. Yeah. But like in

1:00:52

the book specifically, it even says that like

1:00:54

Goel's low rasp of a voice issued from

1:00:56

his mouth. It's like they sound like them,

1:00:58

but this to me feels like it'd be

1:01:00

like one of those things. I'd be like

1:01:02

a dead giveaway to Draco. If

1:01:04

Crab and Goel sounded like Harry and Ron. Yeah.

1:01:06

You know, absolutely. Like it's like, you can't just

1:01:09

be like, oh yeah, I'm

1:01:11

Goyle. Like, right. This is how I

1:01:13

sound all the time because Goyle sounds

1:01:15

like this. Right. You know, it's like,

1:01:17

it's like, who's gonna buy that? They're

1:01:20

apparently air quotes, best friends. Exactly.

1:01:25

I know. I wrote that down too. I was

1:01:27

like, this is a movie issue where

1:01:30

it's just like, also how frustrating if you were

1:01:32

the character, the actor, Super who

1:01:42

have literally zero speaking lines. I

1:01:45

know. And like, nope,

1:01:47

actually it's so just gonna be Daniel Radcliffe and

1:01:49

Rupert Gritt. Like don't let them talk at all.

1:01:52

I wondered about this before, whether it has anything

1:01:54

to do, because I know sometimes like from like

1:01:56

an acting perspective, if you have speaking lines, like,

1:01:58

I think that the. like like

1:02:01

minimum attached pay to your role like

1:02:03

has to go up right yeah so

1:02:06

it's like it's like are they because

1:02:08

chances are they said all of the

1:02:10

lines they just got dubbed over

1:02:12

right by the actors who are doing the thing

1:02:14

so it's like did they not

1:02:16

get credit for speaking lines because oh that'd be

1:02:18

so interesting to know yeah look I mean I

1:02:20

could see like you know especially this early on

1:02:23

in the saga like maybe like budget constraints or

1:02:25

something possibly being like it's like yeah we made

1:02:27

this decision and then we sort of had to

1:02:29

stick with it because at this point in time

1:02:31

we'd have enough funding and so that's it there we

1:02:33

go that was that but this is this I know

1:02:35

is true speaking of Percy in order

1:02:38

of the Phoenix like he's in

1:02:40

Dumbledore's office for the big like

1:02:42

double dolls got style minister yeah

1:02:44

Percy doesn't say anything in that

1:02:46

whole movie as like a cost-saving

1:02:48

thing it's just sort of like

1:02:50

yep he's there he's a curmudgeon

1:02:53

you're supposed you get it but he doesn't say

1:02:55

anything right right yeah yeah got the guy there

1:02:57

but no right but that's it yes it's the

1:03:00

same actor who's played Percy the whole

1:03:02

time yeah just no no speaking no

1:03:04

lines cuz money cuz money basically so

1:03:07

anyway they run into Percy down there being all

1:03:09

I guess sus I

1:03:11

believe it's Peter Weasley yeah that's

1:03:13

right Peter

1:03:15

Weasley down to the dungeon who's definitely

1:03:17

not having a little dungeon date with

1:03:20

his girlfriend let's see let's see

1:03:22

oh I love Percy they Roger

1:03:27

recalls about it he was like like what are you doing

1:03:29

he said like what are you doing down here or whatever

1:03:31

oh it's not safe to

1:03:33

go wandering around he says you are I

1:03:37

have a prefect nothing's about to attack

1:03:39

to me and I'm like Percy Percy

1:03:41

Percy like what this is

1:03:44

what you sound like oh the monster

1:03:46

like will it attack a ghost yes

1:03:48

a prefect ha as

1:03:50

if I highlighted the exact same

1:03:52

line I was just yeah Percy you

1:03:54

are this to me is the line

1:03:56

where like you might

1:03:58

genuinely start to suspect Percy because

1:04:01

this would be him like if

1:04:03

he is so confident like that

1:04:06

that he is not going to be attacked it's

1:04:08

like there's pretty much only one way for you

1:04:10

to have this level of confidence and that's that

1:04:12

you're the one doing it right but

1:04:17

he's just actual arrogance because we

1:04:19

know he's not the one doing

1:04:22

it is just actual arrogance like

1:04:24

no the monster the monster itself

1:04:26

is able to discern the promotion

1:04:28

I got it wouldn't dare would

1:04:30

not dare yeah I don't feel very like

1:04:33

a lock heart kind of thing to say

1:04:35

honestly which is kind of shocking because Percy

1:04:37

gets 12 owls like he is

1:04:39

a very smart person oh I know I

1:04:42

know right honestly

1:04:44

what he could have said that would

1:04:46

have made a little more sense is

1:04:48

I'm a pure blood nothing's about to

1:04:50

attack me which would have been like probably

1:04:53

true it distasteful right

1:04:55

right well so okay but this being said though again

1:04:57

so on the same day for Percy like like I've

1:04:59

been saying the whole time like I still like even

1:05:01

doing my best I still can't suspect Percy because I

1:05:03

just think he's such an idiot but like there is

1:05:06

the line from Malfoy a little bit down the page

1:05:08

where it says we're Malfoy

1:05:10

says Peter Weasley Ron Grexmas

1:05:12

Percy Malfoy says whatever I've noticed him

1:05:14

sneaking around a lot lately which

1:05:17

like that that could

1:05:19

be like another one of those instances where

1:05:21

it's like okay what's Percy doing yeah why

1:05:23

is it down there yeah I'm not the

1:05:25

dungeon dates with Penelope that's it that's it

1:05:27

then I find the entrance to the southern

1:05:29

common room to be kind of disappointing on

1:05:32

the whole you know it's

1:05:34

just it's just a bare damp stone

1:05:36

wall yeah you know yeah like it's

1:05:38

not terribly interesting yeah if you are

1:05:40

playing like Hogwarts legacy there's

1:05:43

like this if you like walk

1:05:45

near said patch of wall there's

1:05:47

this like snake that

1:05:49

would otherwise like a giant stone snake that's

1:05:52

otherwise sort of like laying across the floor

1:05:54

okay like as you walk towards it it

1:05:56

like arches up to like form around the

1:05:58

door and it looks really cool. Okay. It's

1:06:00

a little more impressive in Hogwarts legacy. Okay. So

1:06:03

they were like, maybe we need to do something

1:06:05

else. Yeah. They were like, maybe this was not

1:06:07

quite good. No. Also, it feels like if

1:06:10

you're the students of Hogwarts, like it wouldn't be, it

1:06:12

seems weird to me that it's such a secret where

1:06:14

the other rooms are. It's like, it doesn't seem that

1:06:16

hard to figure out. Like even also in the game,

1:06:19

like the fat lady's portrait isn't just like

1:06:21

on the wall randomly, you know, it's like,

1:06:24

it's like the one portrait at the end

1:06:26

of a long hallway that otherwise leads literally

1:06:28

nowhere. And it would be fairly obvious if

1:06:30

you're walking around like, well, this

1:06:33

is, this is a tower. So something's

1:06:36

up there. Something's up there. Yeah. Yeah.

1:06:38

Math, math, math, math, math. Yeah. So

1:06:40

anyway, that, that does sort of make

1:06:42

sense. Um, also surprising

1:06:44

is that the password is

1:06:47

pure blood. I know. I

1:06:49

know. Like dude, like

1:06:51

I assume Snape is the one who sets

1:06:53

them. And I'm like, are you trying to

1:06:55

throw shade at your students right now? Like

1:06:57

you trying to make them suspicious while the

1:06:59

chamber of secrets is open. Like this

1:07:02

is, this is actively mean to

1:07:04

the other students at the school.

1:07:07

Yes. It's an extremely bad

1:07:09

form. Yes, it is. This

1:07:11

is like one of those where it's like, maybe you want

1:07:13

to put on your Dumbledore's big plan cap a little bit

1:07:16

and, and think like maybe

1:07:18

if Dumbledore is trying to leave

1:07:20

bread crumbs for Harry after

1:07:23

the conversation in the head master's

1:07:25

office, Dumbledore talks to Snape and

1:07:27

believes there's a chance that Harry

1:07:29

might try to investigate, you

1:07:31

know, someone in Slytherin and he's trying to

1:07:33

like point to this pure bloodedness as

1:07:35

like a, like a clue or something. I

1:07:37

mean, I'm reaching. I know. It's just like,

1:07:40

like who allows the, like, it feels like you're

1:07:42

setting the path. It almost feels like something that like,

1:07:45

say we're going to have to tell Dumbledore like,

1:07:47

by the way, I reset the password of

1:07:49

the Slytherin common room. It's going to be

1:07:51

pure blood from now. Dumbledore would be like,

1:07:54

hold on. No, it's not. Uh, could we

1:07:56

change that real quick? Remember, remember how enemies

1:07:58

of the air, it where. And

1:08:00

you'll be like you're sort of supporting

1:08:02

a certain belief system here a little

1:08:04

bit of race my little bit I

1:08:06

mean, it's just a thousand percent racist

1:08:09

It just is just is yeah,

1:08:11

so maybe don't encourage

1:08:14

that in the students of

1:08:16

your own house Or anything but

1:08:18

either way either way, but I mean this is

1:08:20

another one of those two like right I feel

1:08:22

like all the characters in Slytherin and you know

1:08:24

the fact like all their apologies potion is so

1:08:26

disgusting and that they're all Just like described in

1:08:28

such like unappealing ways

1:08:31

I guess like you know like I don't know just

1:08:33

it just it's like it's all very on the nose

1:08:36

Which I mean I supposed to be fair. It's just

1:08:38

like you know that that's just painting

1:08:40

villains I like that that is a

1:08:42

little bit less What's

1:08:45

the right way to describe this I don't

1:08:47

know I tend to think of like maybe me

1:08:50

Malfoy's is dashing Dashing dashing

1:08:52

yeah, it's Malfoy dashing. I think probably

1:08:54

yeah It's a dashing you're allowed there

1:08:56

to jingle bells sweater. Maybe he's dashing

1:08:59

through the snow We

1:09:06

can only assume we can only guess Really

1:09:09

yeah, we never get a proper description, but we

1:09:12

don't know how he feels about jingle bells right

1:09:14

he but we do don't we? But we do

1:09:16

exactly yeah You

1:09:18

know the the kid I mean he grew up

1:09:21

having having an elf in the

1:09:23

house You know you gotta think right yeah part

1:09:25

of Christmas lore probably and some of the

1:09:27

capacity health on the shelf help on That's

1:09:30

a thing right poor Dobby poor

1:09:32

Dobby oh man Yeah,

1:09:35

oh boy, so anyway they get into these

1:09:37

Slytherin common room do almost everything they can

1:09:39

to give themselves away They

1:09:43

like are like not laughing at the jokes appropriately

1:09:45

which I guess they just Relying

1:09:47

on crab and go oil being slow

1:09:49

on the uptake right and then Malfoy

1:09:52

brings out the inquiry at the Ministry

1:09:54

of Magic Also, we how

1:09:56

what what random odds that they're down

1:09:58

there, too ask Malfoy about

1:10:00

the Chamber of Secrets and like he's

1:10:03

down there just like spending his free

1:10:05

time like laughing at Harry

1:10:07

and Ron. Oh, I know

1:10:09

yeah yeah it's pretty unbelievable not

1:10:11

to mention this is Christmas right

1:10:14

yeah so it's like if Malfoy

1:10:16

has this particular clipping it means

1:10:18

that the daily prophet decided to

1:10:21

run this particular story on

1:10:23

Christmas yeah that's a real real

1:10:25

good way to ruin someone's holiday

1:10:28

right does he say let's

1:10:30

see that his dad sent it

1:10:33

to him maybe maybe it happened yeah

1:10:35

yeah okay to me okay I was

1:10:37

imagining for a second that 12 year

1:10:39

old mouthful was just down there reading

1:10:41

the prophet yeah there you go look

1:10:43

at this fantastic

1:10:46

I do love though that it says that Mr.

1:10:49

Weasley was unavailable for comment although his wife told

1:10:51

reporters to clear off or she'd set the family

1:10:53

ghoul on them yeah I know I highlighted that

1:10:55

like pride in the family ghoul there

1:10:58

we go that girl could do things more

1:11:00

of a pet you know more

1:11:02

of a pet more of a pet out of it

1:11:04

we're proud of it that I think you had a

1:11:06

fear that like they were just like yeah we let

1:11:08

we accepted the ghoul I think they're like taking care

1:11:10

of it and I was like now it does seem

1:11:12

like that right right now yeah the family ghoul on

1:11:14

you like I'll set the family dog on

1:11:17

you or something yeah maybe that yeah

1:11:19

but then then it started this is like where

1:11:21

I think Malfoy really just goes off the deep

1:11:23

end like he is just so ridiculously

1:11:28

cruel and mean it's such

1:11:30

terrible things really does for

1:11:32

the really after so like

1:11:35

they're not laughing at all the jokes mouth

1:11:37

was like what's up with you guys and

1:11:39

like Ron's like stomach ache and then Malfoy

1:11:41

responds with we'll go to the hospital and

1:11:43

give all those mudbloods a kick from me

1:11:45

it's just like like God dude

1:11:48

come on dude like yeah but

1:11:50

this is also we mentioned is earlier he

1:11:52

does say like you know I'm surprised the

1:11:55

daily profit hasn't reported all these attacks yet

1:11:57

I was like that I had led and

1:11:59

I was like that's a good point that

1:12:01

is no point you're not wrong about that.

1:12:03

I guess it is weird like that. It's

1:12:05

not being reported. Right. That kids are being

1:12:07

petrified at the school. Yeah. Suppose Dumbledore

1:12:09

is trying to hush it all up. He'll be

1:12:11

sacked soon. If he'll be sacked, if he doesn't

1:12:14

stop soon. Yeah, you're right. I mean, this is,

1:12:16

this is like one of those things where like

1:12:18

I do think if the general public found out

1:12:20

after the fact that this had been going on

1:12:22

and that the, but the, like the head of

1:12:24

the school had not notified people about it, Dumbledore

1:12:26

probably would be fired. Yeah. Right. Like that. Like

1:12:28

that's not like an unreasonable like not, not just

1:12:30

for letting the attacks happen, but for not reporting

1:12:33

it. We're not like, that's the bigger, almost not

1:12:35

the, I mean, cause Dumbledore, I mean, who knows

1:12:37

how the attacks are happening. We don't know that

1:12:39

yet, right? But they, yeah, Draco goes on and

1:12:41

he loves muggle boards. A decent headmaster would have

1:12:43

never let slime like that. Creepy in like, dude,

1:12:47

how, how much effort is he putting

1:12:49

into knowing the lineage of literally every

1:12:51

student at the school? Yeah. But he

1:12:54

doesn't know Percy Weasley who's like basically

1:12:56

like a fixture of the school, but

1:12:58

he does know Colin Crevey's name. Right.

1:13:00

Yeah. He knows it's so hypocritical. You're

1:13:02

right. Like he doesn't know Percy Weasley

1:13:04

fellow pure blood wizard, but he knows

1:13:07

exactly who mud blood Colin Crevey is.

1:13:09

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Draco. I

1:13:11

think we see through you a little

1:13:13

bit, a little bit. You're translucent hair

1:13:17

and skin or whatever. Right. Right. What are

1:13:19

you dashing? What are you a polar bear?

1:13:23

Don't polar bears have translucent hair. It's like

1:13:25

not white. It's like translucent. Just looks white

1:13:27

because of all the snow. Are there any

1:13:29

good holiday jingles about polar bears? You

1:13:32

know, who'd probably know? Draco. Draco. Yeah. Lover

1:13:35

of Christmas time. It's a really good, he

1:13:37

must have some fun personality traits, you know,

1:13:39

I mean, just be mean all the time.

1:13:41

Can't be. Yeah. Why would people like him?

1:13:43

Yeah. That's the thing. People like him. It's

1:13:46

like, everyone just loves how mean he is all the

1:13:48

time. This is it. Right. Yeah. No, I can't be up.

1:13:50

He is jealous though, that people think that

1:13:53

Harry is Slytherin's heir. So

1:13:55

maybe that's going back to like that, that scene from

1:13:57

earlier with Fred and George parading Harry around and being

1:13:59

like, Hey, hello. Look, it's Slytherin

1:14:01

there. And he's all grumpy about it.

1:14:04

But then Malfoy says, I wish I knew

1:14:06

who it is, and Malfoy patchillantly, I could

1:14:08

help them. And like, that is awful. It

1:14:11

is so awful. Especially because

1:14:13

he goes on one sentence later to

1:14:15

say, I bet it's a matter of

1:14:17

time before one of them gets killed.

1:14:19

I hope it's Granger. He said with

1:14:21

relish. So like this paragraph

1:14:23

is just Draco saying like,

1:14:25

I wish I could help

1:14:27

kill Hermione. Yes, yes. Like,

1:14:30

what? You

1:14:33

want to participate in murdering other people?

1:14:35

Yeah, no, not a good place to

1:14:37

be. Not a great take, Draco. Yeah,

1:14:39

yeah. But maybe again, this is like

1:14:41

one of those where it's just like

1:14:43

maybe he doesn't actually think it's even

1:14:45

remotely possible. And so he's just

1:14:48

sort of like being, like maybe he's just trying

1:14:50

to like shock and awe. I

1:14:53

guess so. Maybe he's just like showboating a little.

1:14:55

Just showboating, yeah. I mean that, or he just

1:14:57

has like a serious crush on Hermione and

1:14:59

he's just trying to like cover it up by

1:15:01

being like, well, I wish she would die slash

1:15:03

go on a date with me in the dungeons.

1:15:05

That Hermione Granger. I could totally sing her jingle

1:15:08

bells. Oh man. We

1:15:11

can go caroling. Oh man. That

1:15:19

does make you, I know. I can't really, like I said,

1:15:21

I don't think I can feel bad for him on the

1:15:23

side of this chapter, but the thought of Draco just wanting

1:15:25

to go caroling with Hermione is pretty endearing. I

1:15:27

mean, I don't hate it. I'm

1:15:30

not usually a big Hermione shipper

1:15:32

or anything. Maybe

1:15:35

we haven't talked about ships much on

1:15:38

the old podcast here, but we're

1:15:40

firmly, as far as Harry Potter

1:15:42

ships go, we're mostly on Hermione.

1:15:45

Yeah, mostly. Or

1:15:49

Flowerpot. Or Flowerpot, yeah, which would of course

1:15:51

be Flora Delacour and Harry Potter. And Harry.

1:15:54

And then their daughter, Holly? Holly,

1:15:58

yes, like the wand. daughter

1:16:00

Holly or and then what's our other one

1:16:02

is the Red Moon which is Ron and

1:16:04

Luna. Oh I do like Ron. That one's

1:16:06

probably my favorite honestly out of those. Okay

1:16:10

so then we the other thing that we learned though

1:16:12

is that the Chamber of Secrets was open 50 years

1:16:14

ago which is before Malfoy's

1:16:16

dad Lucius Malfoy's time at

1:16:18

school. Although only just barely

1:16:20

because I do we

1:16:22

know if no Lucius is

1:16:25

at school he's like a prefect when

1:16:27

Snape is going but Lucius

1:16:29

is not there with Tom Riddle but

1:16:32

other death eaters are

1:16:34

at school right like Lestrange

1:16:36

and who else they're

1:16:39

actually yeah I can't remember I know

1:16:42

that they're all in that team with

1:16:44

like the slug club yeah the slug

1:16:46

club yeah so anyway let's

1:16:49

see here yeah so then the last time the Chamber of

1:16:51

Secrets a mudblood died so that's

1:16:53

of course alluding to eventually

1:16:56

what we will learn to be Moaning Myrtle which I

1:16:59

do think it's a pretty clever way that

1:17:01

like Myrtle has been like included in this

1:17:03

story and you learn this particular piece of

1:17:05

information and you're like I don't even think

1:17:07

it's obvious to think what's probably Myrtle

1:17:10

oh yeah no you have no idea it's

1:17:12

a pretty cool reveal when you're like oh

1:17:14

no way all right all right we learned

1:17:17

about Azkaban the wizard prison yes for the

1:17:19

first time for the Yeah I do

1:17:21

love the line by Draco's honestly if you're

1:17:23

going to be slower you'd be going back

1:17:26

he's like being so hateful but I was

1:17:28

like I was a pretty sick bird that

1:17:35

dashing humor that's it that's it

1:17:37

yeah because like it's like if

1:17:39

you were like 12 like especially you have

1:17:42

to like imagine the scenario

1:17:44

where you're there and you

1:17:47

Draco believe that Goyle doesn't know

1:17:49

about Azkaban for a second like

1:17:52

what are you talking about what do you what

1:17:54

do you how on earth do you not know

1:17:56

about Azkaban right right yes with

1:18:00

me, Goyle, right? The prison?

1:18:03

Huh? Right. Right. I

1:18:05

know. But this is the thing. It's like, it's

1:18:07

like, what would it, what would somebody who you're

1:18:09

standing in front of have to say for you

1:18:11

to start to question whether or not they are

1:18:13

in fact them and not someone else in disguise?

1:18:15

Yeah, exactly. You know, it's like, that was a

1:18:17

really out of character thing for you to say.

1:18:19

Yeah. Um, but anyway, yeah, then we, then we

1:18:21

hear, uh, Draco say, father says

1:18:24

to keep my later on when the real

1:18:26

millisecond, like it's possible they'll notice

1:18:28

father, she's not there

1:18:30

anymore. Sure. You know?

1:18:32

Yeah, that's true. That's true. Yeah. That might be like

1:18:34

one of those, like, didn't Millicent show up

1:18:36

for like eight minutes? Yeah.

1:18:39

Where was she? Or like, if you guys,

1:18:41

you know, we were, you know, we're going

1:18:43

to play a game or something. I can't

1:18:45

imagine this other than playing games for some

1:18:47

reason, but like they are still 12 year

1:18:49

olds. Right. Right. Right. What's the version of

1:18:51

like, like checking stock prices for wizarding

1:18:55

high school students. Yeah. It feels like that's what

1:18:57

they'd be doing. Yeah. Like pushing gold around his

1:18:59

table or something. Right. Or like, I can imagine

1:19:01

like with the real, it comes back to like,

1:19:03

Hey, where'd you go? We, I talked to you

1:19:05

for like 10 minutes. A few days

1:19:07

ago, we were like, what are you talking about? I've been

1:19:09

in home skiing with my parents, obviously. And it's like, no,

1:19:12

you were here. I talked to you. It was like, I wasn't

1:19:14

here, Draco. I know. Yeah. Oh my God.

1:19:16

You were here. I talked to

1:19:18

you. I'm sure if I am positive, wrong, wrong

1:19:21

crap. Go ahead. Didn't we talk to Bill? Is

1:19:23

it? No. Dang

1:19:27

it. Yeah. I talked to her. You two were

1:19:29

there. It's like, it's like

1:19:35

from our perspective, he would be so gas

1:19:37

lit and you

1:19:41

got, Oh yeah. He's just like mad at them.

1:19:43

You're like drinking. We didn't talk to her because

1:19:46

they're knocked out. So they wouldn't remember it

1:19:48

either. That's funny. Okay.

1:19:50

So anyway, but yeah, so then

1:19:52

eventually Harry and Ron do successfully

1:19:54

make it in the direction of

1:19:56

the Southern common room. They run

1:19:58

into Percy. who

1:20:01

is basically you know it's of course down

1:20:03

there hanging out with Penelope and

1:20:05

then just ends up being classic classic

1:20:08

kind of per Percy oh yeah oh

1:20:10

actually actually it's back it up back okay there

1:20:12

is a part where the before they take the

1:20:14

potion I just thought this was interesting it says

1:20:16

there are Hermione informs that we'll have

1:20:18

exactly one hour before we change back

1:20:20

into ourselves which I feel like is

1:20:22

very like like it

1:20:25

like exactly one hour

1:20:27

feels like there must be part of

1:20:30

the ingredient that's like time based

1:20:32

you know yes like they had to harvest

1:20:35

the one thing like when it was

1:20:37

moonlight or whatever so it's like some

1:20:39

something about it must be like tuned

1:20:41

into the rotation of the earth or something

1:20:44

right now yeah point I wondered about

1:20:46

the same thing actually I'm I'm

1:20:48

glad to brought it up I was like

1:20:50

I wonder if there is something distinctly like

1:20:54

magical about time

1:20:57

itself at all like

1:20:59

like I think even like for the time

1:21:01

turners there's like a very specific amount of

1:21:03

time yeah that you're able to turn them

1:21:06

back and yeah nothing more than that amount

1:21:08

of time so I mean that

1:21:10

is sort of an interesting one unless this

1:21:12

is just like like whoever created the potion

1:21:14

for Paula Juice is like yeah it's definitely

1:21:16

an hour is about the right amount so

1:21:18

we've we've done the ingredients with

1:21:20

that in mind I mean I guess so because

1:21:22

later on like Marty Carter Jr. will be like

1:21:24

drinking from the hip flask like every hour on

1:21:26

the hour right as like part of the thing

1:21:28

so it's like but and if that's the case

1:21:30

though it doesn't it seems like there'd

1:21:33

be a version of making the Paula Juice potion

1:21:35

that like got you more than an hour yeah

1:21:37

it does seem that way you know but like

1:21:39

but obviously he's not doing that he's still just

1:21:41

drinking from it every single hour right right yes

1:21:43

man it wasn't so much work so much work

1:21:46

do you think you transform back at night too

1:21:48

or is he just like not sleeping for full

1:21:51

nights the entire year no there's no way there's

1:21:53

no way definitely sleeping in Sparta Cosh Jr. must

1:21:55

be must be you'd think you think I would

1:21:57

think you know those dark detectors I guess you

1:21:59

could tell right someone if your enemies

1:22:01

are are coming towards you in

1:22:03

the night but you know I but no you wouldn't

1:22:05

have the eye if you were asleep because it would come

1:22:07

out will come out that would come that would come

1:22:09

out every day you have to go through that transformation that'll

1:22:12

be so bad that's a miserable existence man yeah we

1:22:14

also get to see the color of the Polyjuice

1:22:17

potion as they add their other things to it

1:22:20

let's see that we have a

1:22:22

sick sort of yellow the khaki

1:22:25

color of a booger which is one of

1:22:27

my favorite descriptions ever and it

1:22:29

grabs a dark mergy brown a

1:22:31

dark murky brown was interesting is that the

1:22:34

cat is the one that turns the sick

1:22:36

sort of yellow well I mean

1:22:38

not to not to go TMI on everybody yeah

1:22:40

but it does seem like cat sick is sort

1:22:42

of a sick sort of yellow well that is

1:22:45

disgusting it's almost just sort of like a it's

1:22:48

like sort of throw shade at the cat yeah

1:22:50

yeah that's true that's true poor cat yeah it's

1:22:52

like it's like cabin Goyle we're not really like

1:22:54

terribly thrown by the khaki color of booger or

1:22:56

the dark murky brown but this cat did nothing

1:22:58

wrong yeah like wouldn't be funny if it was

1:23:00

like her mind is like a sparkly pink or

1:23:03

something it's like oh my god yeah you're like

1:23:05

well Millicent you're like oh it wasn't Millicent it

1:23:07

was the cat the cat I know justice for

1:23:09

this cat I know come on yeah come on

1:23:11

we're really really throw I mean who's the cat

1:23:13

has done nothing wrong it just happens to be

1:23:15

owned by Millicent you know right it's not its

1:23:18

fault or as far as we know we assume

1:23:20

it's her own cat's

1:23:22

hair on her but you know cat hair

1:23:24

be everywhere yeah here to be everywhere who

1:23:26

knows what might not if we build with

1:23:28

cat right someone in the southern common room

1:23:30

has a cat someone does yeah yeah it

1:23:33

is kind of funny that she turns into

1:23:35

a cat and then she later adopts a

1:23:37

cat in you know like yeah just next

1:23:39

year there's like almost no like

1:23:41

ramifications of her turning into a cat

1:23:44

You know there's like no leftover things. It's just sort

1:23:46

of like Hermione couldn't go cuz she turned into a

1:23:48

cat and then she was better. Moving on, this is

1:23:50

this is like one of those things though that I

1:23:52

do sort of love about Madame Pompry is that I

1:23:54

think that there's a line literally at the end says

1:23:57

it's okay Hermione said Harry quickly. We'll take you up

1:23:59

to the hospital. Barbara never ask too

1:24:01

many questions. I do sort of like love

1:24:03

that about Madam Pumphrey. Did you just sort

1:24:05

of like it's a school full of magical

1:24:07

kids? They're gonna make mistakes. I'm not here

1:24:09

to enforce rules, I'm here to make sure

1:24:11

that they are healthy right? You know it's

1:24:13

like because you you could see a world

1:24:15

especially like given like Dumbledore zone relationship with

1:24:17

multiple for it's like it seems like kind

1:24:19

of close that she could be like a

1:24:21

little bit more mountain pincer, a little bit

1:24:23

more Mcgonigal like a with a bit more

1:24:25

for can enforcer type right? And it's like

1:24:27

no, not at all were mature healthy? Yup.

1:24:30

Emily even last even in the first buffer

1:24:32

rog a bit by Norbert enough to go

1:24:34

to the hospital where you what guard dog

1:24:36

bit me in of like clearly not but

1:24:38

she doesn't like road press the issue that

1:24:40

serves Hear ya exactly? That's another and sense

1:24:42

of what's to keep an eye out for

1:24:45

more are Mvp moments from Amount of Pumphrey

1:24:47

yeah his middle name in must be like

1:24:49

Violet because that would make her initials Mvp

1:24:51

yeah was a matter of i'm not allow

1:24:53

that about out of the first day of

1:24:55

yeah yeah but you know what? I'm okay

1:24:57

with it. Yeah I still like a world

1:24:59

where. We've we've mvp a five man upon

1:25:02

for our for sure for sure. I'm

1:25:04

just are. So they they transform. Ah

1:25:06

they you don't realize I don't know

1:25:08

where they're going. They were supposed to

1:25:10

time wandering around. At

1:25:12

I do I think I thought it

1:25:14

would be earlier when they were at

1:25:17

the. Dinner. For Christmas I

1:25:19

thought I was the as I was reading

1:25:21

of It's Disorder but a good time to

1:25:23

of and like to list the other students

1:25:25

there and like mention Penelope in some way.

1:25:27

Oh yeah like oh yeah there was like

1:25:30

and like one prefect from Raven Klar something

1:25:32

right you know? Ah but but obvious that

1:25:34

she sort of mentioned here as they are

1:25:36

heading down to the dungeons is like I'm

1:25:38

a raven clogs just like out me You

1:25:40

know it's. You. Don't even think about union.

1:25:42

think about it. Sounds like the this is the

1:25:45

glue. This is like okay I guess they ran

1:25:47

to someone but like. You. know it doesn't

1:25:49

feel like this is a very intentional scented them

1:25:51

yet it's actually hugely important it is usually important

1:25:53

yeah no you're right i'm actually on this on

1:25:55

this know this is let me be less related

1:25:58

to penelope but more related to just apologies general

1:26:00

one of the things that I don't like about the

1:26:02

movies is that they use the

1:26:06

source actors

1:26:08

voice oh yeah through the

1:26:12

polyjuice yeah well like in the book specifically

1:26:14

it even says that like goils low rasp

1:26:16

of a voice issued from his mouth it's

1:26:18

like they sound like them but this to

1:26:20

me feels like it'd be like one of

1:26:23

those things I'd be like a dead giveaway

1:26:25

to Draco if crab and goil

1:26:27

sounded like Harry and Ron yeah you know

1:26:29

like it's like you can't just be like

1:26:32

oh yeah I'm goil like right this

1:26:34

is how I sound all the time

1:26:36

because goil sounds like this right you

1:26:38

know it's like it's like who's gonna

1:26:40

buy that they're apparently

1:26:43

air quotes best friends exactly

1:26:47

I know I wrote that down too I

1:26:49

was like this is a movie issue where

1:26:52

it's just like also how frustrating if you're

1:26:54

the character the actors who play crab and

1:26:56

goil who have literally zero speaking

1:26:58

lines I know this is my

1:27:00

one scene I like I get

1:27:02

this is the only time I

1:27:04

will have any speaking lines until

1:27:06

book seven right and like

1:27:09

nope actually it's so just gonna be

1:27:11

Daniel Radcliffe and Rupert Gritt like don't

1:27:13

let them talk at all I wondered

1:27:15

about this before whether it has anything

1:27:17

to do I know sometimes like from

1:27:19

like an acting perspective if you have

1:27:21

speaking lines like I think that the

1:27:23

like like minimum attached pay to your

1:27:25

role like has to go

1:27:28

up right yeah so it's like it's like

1:27:30

are they because chances are they said all

1:27:32

of the lines they just got dubbed over

1:27:34

right by the actors who are doing the

1:27:36

thing so it's like did they

1:27:38

not get credit for speaking lines because oh

1:27:40

that'd be so interesting to know yeah look I

1:27:42

mean I could see like you know especially this

1:27:44

early on in the saga like maybe like budget

1:27:47

constraints or something possibly being like it's like yeah

1:27:49

we made this decision and then we sort of

1:27:51

have to stick with it because at this point

1:27:53

in time we didn't have enough funding and so

1:27:55

that's it there we go that was that but

1:27:57

this I know is true speaking of Percy in

1:27:59

order the Phoenix like he's in

1:28:01

Dumbledore's office for the big leg

1:28:03

double dolls got style minister yeah

1:28:06

Percy doesn't say anything in that

1:28:08

whole movie as like a cost-saving

1:28:10

thing it's just sort of like

1:28:12

yep he's there he's a curmudgeon

1:28:14

you you're supposed you get

1:28:16

it but he doesn't say anything right yeah

1:28:18

yeah I got the guy there but no

1:28:20

right but that's it yes it's the same

1:28:23

actor who's played Percy the whole time yeah

1:28:25

just no no speaking no lines cuz money

1:28:27

cuz money basically so anyway

1:28:29

they run into Percy down there being all I

1:28:31

guess sus I believe

1:28:33

it's Peter Weasley yeah that's right

1:28:37

Peter weasily down at the dungeon who's

1:28:40

definitely not having a little dungeon date with

1:28:43

his girlfriend let's see let's see

1:28:45

oh I love Percy they

1:28:48

Roger lick all about it he was like like what are

1:28:50

you doing he says like what are you doing down here

1:28:52

or whatever oh it's not

1:28:55

safe to go wandering around he says you are I have

1:28:57

a prefect nothing's about to

1:29:00

attack to me and I'm

1:29:02

like Percy Percy Percy

1:29:04

like this is what you sound like oh

1:29:07

the monster like will it attack

1:29:09

a ghost yes a prefect ha

1:29:12

as if I highlighted the

1:29:14

exact same line I was just yeah Percy you are

1:29:17

this to me at the line where

1:29:19

like you might genuinely start to

1:29:22

suspect Percy because this would be

1:29:24

hit like if he is so

1:29:26

confident like that that he

1:29:29

is not going to be attacked it's like there's

1:29:31

pretty much only one way for you to have

1:29:33

this level of confidence and that's that you're the

1:29:35

one doing it right but

1:29:39

he's just actual arrogance because we know he's

1:29:41

not the one doing it is just actual

1:29:43

arrogance like no the monster

1:29:46

the monster itself is able

1:29:48

to discern the Promotion:

1:29:50

I Got and wouldn't dare, Would not

1:29:52

dare Yeah I Feel very like a

1:29:55

lock heart kind of thing to say

1:29:57

honestly which is kind of shocking because

1:29:59

Percy. Twelve O W well which

1:30:01

he is a very smart for so I

1:30:03

know I know right I'm a are honestly

1:30:06

what he could have said that would have

1:30:08

made a little more sense as I'm a

1:30:10

pure blood nothing's about to attack me. I'm

1:30:12

was it would abandon like probably true fit

1:30:14

distasteful right? right? Was okay with it. This

1:30:17

being said though against this on the same

1:30:19

never proceed like like I've been say the

1:30:21

whole time like I still like eight that

1:30:23

even during my best I still can't suspect

1:30:25

proceed because I just think he such an

1:30:28

idiot but like there is a line from

1:30:30

Malfoy little bit down the page or it

1:30:32

says where where Malfoy says Peter Weasley run

1:30:34

Greg Smith Percy now forces of whatever I've

1:30:36

noticed hims the he around a lot lately

1:30:39

which like. And. That that

1:30:41

can be like another one of those

1:30:43

instances where it's like okay, let's proceed

1:30:45

to and yeah, was it Alma Mater,

1:30:47

Dutch Days of Penelope. That's if they're

1:30:49

Bob Then I find the entrance to

1:30:52

the Southern Com Room to become a

1:30:54

disappointing on the whole. Ah, you know

1:30:56

it's just as it's just a fair

1:30:58

day. A stone wall? Yeah, did I

1:31:00

was. yeah. Like it's not terribly interesting.

1:31:02

Yeah, if you are playing like Hogwarts

1:31:05

Legacy, there's like this. If you like

1:31:07

walking mere said patch of wall, there's

1:31:09

this like I'm. Snake. Let

1:31:11

would otherwise like a drives third snake the

1:31:13

father was sort of like laying across the

1:31:16

the floor alcoholic. as you walk towards that

1:31:18

it like arches up to like form around

1:31:20

the door and looks really cool of as

1:31:22

a little more impressive in Hogwarts legacy of

1:31:24

I say that there were like me we

1:31:26

need is someone else yeah they're alive Maybe

1:31:29

this is not quite good enough. Also it

1:31:31

feels like. If your the suit it's

1:31:33

Hogwarts like it wouldn't I? It seems weird to me

1:31:35

that of at a seeker where the other rooms

1:31:37

or were dumped him a hard to figure out like

1:31:39

even also in the game. Like.

1:31:42

The Fat Ladies portrait isn't just like on

1:31:44

the wall randomly, you know it's like it's

1:31:46

like the one portrait of the end of

1:31:48

a long hallway that otherwise leads literally nowhere.

1:31:51

And it would be fairly obvious if you're

1:31:53

walking around like. When is. This

1:31:55

is the tower so. Something's.

1:31:58

Up there something that they're yeah, Yeah, Math.

1:32:00

Math. Math. Math on math. Yeah so

1:32:03

anyway that but that does sort of

1:32:05

me says I'm also A surprising is

1:32:07

that the password is pure blood. I

1:32:09

know it was like dude I assume

1:32:12

Snape is the one who sets of

1:32:14

and I'm like are you trying to

1:32:16

throw shade your students right now? Are

1:32:19

you trying to make them suspicious while

1:32:21

the Chamber of Secrets of open like.

1:32:23

This. Is this is actively

1:32:25

mean. A the other students

1:32:28

at a school yes it is an

1:32:30

extremely bad for was yes it is.

1:32:32

This is like one of those worth

1:32:34

like mitt much you want upon your

1:32:37

dumbledore. Big plan, tap a little blips

1:32:39

and in think like maybe if Dumbledore

1:32:41

as tried the leave bread crumbs for

1:32:44

Harrys after the conversation in the headmasters

1:32:46

office dumbledore toss a snape and believes

1:32:48

is a chance that Harry might try

1:32:51

to investigate. You know someone to deliver

1:32:53

n n he's trying to like point

1:32:55

to this pure blooded. Near says like

1:32:57

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1:34:10

that's like one of the things Dumbledore frequently uses against

1:34:12

him is like refers to him as Tom, which Voldemort

1:34:14

hates. You think the sword of catch was up on

1:34:16

the map? I

1:34:19

don't think it has their souls in it. No, it doesn't

1:34:21

have their souls. I think it's different. Okay. And

1:34:24

is there intelligence? Is there intelligence? Yeah. How

1:34:27

do you put that in something? I don't know. Probably.

1:34:30

Memories maybe. Is

1:34:35

it just like woven together with like

1:34:37

bits of memory from the founders? Oh

1:34:39

my gosh. Could you put the sword

1:34:41

of cat in the pensive? Oh no,

1:34:44

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1:34:46

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1:34:48

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