Podchaser Logo
Home
Rabbit Hole #2: Procopius and Brittia

Rabbit Hole #2: Procopius and Brittia

BonusReleased Sunday, 16th February 2020
 1 person rated this episode
Rabbit Hole #2: Procopius and Brittia

Rabbit Hole #2: Procopius and Brittia

Rabbit Hole #2: Procopius and Brittia

Rabbit Hole #2: Procopius and Brittia

BonusSunday, 16th February 2020
 1 person rated this episode
Rate Episode

This story from Procopius was particularly salient to our current discussion about the early Merovingians - and honestly, it was just kind of fun insofar as story-telling goes - but it was too long to include in its entirety in our last episode. This left me with the idea that I wanted to share this story with my listeners, but didn't want to crush any given episode with the quoted passage. So why not make the story it's own Bonus Episode?! Anyway, I did exactly that, and here we are - you get a fun story, an extra off-week dose of T+M, and I get to share the first recorded story of either France or England making a claim to being the ruler of the other. Also, there's a REALLY mad, jilted Angili princess with 400 ships and 100,000 men ready to restore her honor, so sit down, buckle up, eyes forward and hold on!

Anyway... Procopius. As mentioned in our last episode, you’ll recall that Procopius of Caesarea was a sixth century Byzantine scholar who wrote mainly about the exploits of Emperor Justinian and his general Belisarius. However, Procopius also took it upon himself – in his series History of the Wars ­– to also discuss the Gothic Wars, a series of conflicts in which he would have had very little direct participation. He more than likely received his information on these events from various Western embassies that visited Constantinople, the city in which Procopius was serving in some sort of upper-level position of power.

With all of that said, Procopius provides a perfect example of some of the problems that present themselves when dealing with history that is nearly 1,500 years old. First off, (and most obviously) Procopius wasn’t speaking and writing English. His texts were in Greek, leaving his words open to argument by translators. This causes plenty of problems in and of itself, but then second, Procopius wrote his histories as stories using phrases such as, “Such then are the facts.” Well, if you’re willing to accept Procopius as “a most trustworthy and unexaggerating historian,” well, his claim that his statements and stories are “facts” can lead some to accept everything he says without critical thought. Third, Procopius was certainly afflicted by his own personal interpretations and cognitive biases, just as all of us are. But for those of us who are trying to parse his words in the modern day, we have to add in this extra layer of attempting to understand what may have been on Procopius’s mind as he wrote his histories in a time and place that is completely foreign to our current condition.

With all of this said, we’re left with a situation when reading authors like Procopius wherein we don’t want to believe everything he says, but at the same time we don’t want to dismiss him entirely out of hand, if for no other reason than the fact that there’s just not a lot of surviving sources from the sixth century to pull from. So, we read his stories, we try our best to work through all of the issues I mentioned a moment ago, and we then attempt to use what’s left as a puzzle piece that we can add to the picture and maybe illuminate our understanding somewhat. And if absolutely nothing else, some of what Procopius wrote is just amusing.

As always, the music used for the show comes from Josh Woodward and includes his songs “Bully” and “Lafayette.” For a free download of these songs or hundreds of other great tracks, check out his site at joshwoodward.com. Notes on this episode and a list of sources is available online at thugsandmiracles.com; please leave a comment and be sure to sign up for the e-mail list. Speaking of email, you can write to us at [email protected], you can hit us on Twitter at @thugsandmiracle with no “s” at the end, or you can follow us on Facebook and Instagram at @ThugsAndMiracles.

Show More
Rate

From The Podcast

Thugs and Miracles: A History of France

Welcome to Thugs and Miracles, the podcast where we’re looking back at history through the eyes of the kings and queens of France – from the fall of the Roman Empire to the fall of the guillotine.To tell our story, T+M uses the royals as a unifying thread, but we don’t look at just the kings; we try to understand what life was like for the people living under them. How must it have felt to live and die, all within a 10-mile radius of where you were born? For women, how must it have felt to live in a system which, under the Salic law, prohibited them from owning land? How exactly was life in the Middle Ages, this so-called “dark age”?More than answering questions, we tell the stories of the people who made history. We tell you the story of the beautiful Frankish queen who had an affair with a god. We explore Clovis and his conversion within the deepest lines of battle, and we explore his wife, Clotilde, and why she pushed so hard to change his religion – even risking her own life in the process. We look at how a cryptic message involving a pair of scissors and a sword forced a grandmother to make a gruesome life-and-death decision and of course, we tell you about the wars fought for that highest of all positions: King of the Franks. But Kings are not enough: we also tell how Queens found ways to escape the laws and the patriarchy and rule in their own right.Join us in the year 451, at the dawn of a new age in Europe, for the rise of an Empire that will lead into the West as we know it today. Prepare for a world made by Thugs and Miracles.

Join Podchaser to...

  • Rate podcasts and episodes
  • Follow podcasts and creators
  • Create podcast and episode lists
  • & much more

Episode Tags

Do you host or manage this podcast?
Claim and edit this page to your liking.
,

Unlock more with Podchaser Pro

  • Audience Insights
  • Contact Information
  • Demographics
  • Charts
  • Sponsor History
  • and More!
Pro Features