On this episode we talk to Nancy Barry about microfinance and her work with Enterprise Solutions to Poverty. The scandal with SKS Microfinance has plunged India into a state of doubt regarding the ethics and viability of this model - we ask Nancy what her thoughts are on the matter. Nancy worked for the World Bank from 1975 - 1990 before being recruited to be the President of Women’s World Banking.

Next we speak with Casey Nolan. Casey is part of a three man team that has invaded Dharavi with an art project called Artefacting Mumbai. Through teaching art classes for children and interacting with residents to create what he calls “interventions,” or large scale murals and other forms of installation art, he and his team have managed to go beyond the typical expat romantification of Dharavi and create a meaningful project.

On January 29, hundreds of people fill the alleys of Dharavi to see their work and they will be putting it on display again later this month at Project 88 in Colaba. We talk to him about the project and how art and poverty can interact with one another. Visit them here.