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I'm Joe Mckenzie. I'm joined as ever
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Podcast! Yeah it is a very exciting
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you tell the listeners he spoke to.
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The. Edge. Ah thanks. So I sat
1:04
down with event his legend and World
1:06
Cup winner for Italy, Alessandra del Piero.
1:08
He was actually in New York last
1:10
week so as able to sit down
1:13
chat with him for about twenty minutes
1:15
or so. kind of reflecting on his
1:17
club career, that two thousand and six
1:20
World Cup run he had with Italy
1:22
as was a things he's doing in
1:24
the New York area to help promote
1:26
Syria, to help underserved communities and end
1:29
the students enrolled in the streets ocker.
1:31
Usa program as was looking ahead towards
1:33
the Euros in the Copa America and
1:36
which countries he thinks might be dark
1:38
horses and do it was. It was
1:40
a a very good conversation to have So
1:42
in your words I think the best
1:44
thing to do is toss it right
1:46
to their conversation. And
1:55
and. Passenger the up here that
1:57
you so much for sitting down with the
1:59
athletic your work on thing for in heavenly
2:01
Sword star with Nike seasons at Uva right?
2:03
Yeah cause winning score twenty is good. That
2:06
eats a chap is a trophy. Is there
2:08
one moment in particular that sticks out to
2:10
you from your club current. Five
2:13
wow moments He saw. I
2:17
want to be caught dead assist
2:19
I that I were that says
2:21
no because. As.
2:24
As a you this and owner
2:26
was a kid est now costs
2:28
and desist time the you us
2:30
either could you the like your
2:32
like heaven. So when
2:35
i was eighteen and us near they
2:37
both me from part of our and
2:39
then. We start
2:41
training but into day have a chance
2:44
you know to where the jersey yeah
2:46
so and then a some point to
2:48
the word moment offer for the shooting
2:50
with the officer for the vessels event.
2:53
As for twenty five years or more
2:55
so the guy came to me as
2:57
I used to wear the juicy into
2:59
the this as a As for him
3:02
was something that he was doing all
3:04
the time of the real was a
3:06
very important moments I was waiting because
3:08
I was you've a player was ready.
3:11
For the first time my you reduce it's
3:13
so odd put it on and eyes at
3:15
make these for the shooting and then. And
3:18
then I'd daily kids to the though
3:21
a citrus this was for me and
3:23
all I care. Huge memory, a huge
3:25
moments and that one for she was
3:27
taking my mind of the time. Now
3:30
there's so many memorable Champions League games
3:32
a that you've played and was there
3:34
any particular opponents that was difficult to
3:36
play against? Weather's an individual or or
3:38
team. What?
3:41
My history does a
3:43
D was share between
3:45
Remedy them my united
3:47
than time we had
3:49
several games against each
3:51
other, several fights and
3:53
and battles. As so
3:55
those who seemed str
3:57
the the to that's.
4:00
Doing the yes can.
4:03
Often. Often for some kind
4:05
of. Have
4:07
enough Joe or something and earlier in
4:10
the group stage or after all, so
4:12
that's that's in the two teams that
4:14
they're always. For
4:17
me Still. The
4:20
best for the for that period. Now
4:22
at Stuyvesant Ah Reddit Two Thousand Six
4:24
World Cup of you know before getting
4:26
to the final am I like to
4:28
ask about the feeling with and team
4:30
prior to that ran a sixteen deceit
4:32
in Two Thousand Two World Cup. Going.
4:35
To get out of the group in two thousand
4:37
and four euros. What was the ceiling with in
4:39
that squad going into the tournament. Twelve.
4:43
Still a good feeling because you know
4:45
we know each other for it was
4:48
we know that we are song team
4:50
and we also know that if you
4:52
make one single mistake sometimes it makes
4:54
or the defense and that's why probably
4:57
And we we went out of previously
4:59
so we're forced that world cup in
5:01
a be. In. Asia situation for us
5:03
in it that he was going on. A
5:06
lot of things air around
5:08
the pizza the said like
5:10
this so that that moment
5:12
for as was the kind
5:14
of snow white guys ever
5:16
seen since collapse around us.
5:18
but we're here we're here
5:20
we have a big chance
5:22
we we want sets and
5:24
we were coming from a
5:26
to yourself for qualification and
5:28
friend again really really good
5:30
we were confidence her we
5:32
know that we can beat
5:34
everyone but. In
5:37
a to show it so
5:39
that's was the ceiling and
5:41
of course day by day
5:44
game by game that constant
5:46
confidence become higher higher was
5:48
still in the position where.
5:51
You. Know is. Issue A lot
5:54
of respect for. The other the
5:56
other opponents in do you think you are
5:58
better than them. Talking
6:00
about some particular game for example
6:02
so will because we know like
6:04
in a group stage happens. For
6:06
example of Guns Usa we got
6:08
the red cards so the way
6:10
the are Tebow didn't Australia and
6:12
their round of sixteen they're not
6:14
wrong at so that game changer
6:16
can be. That's
6:19
where as her my, we combat, we
6:21
we we stay songs and the and
6:23
we went through all through that because
6:26
we believe in each other. A
6:28
lot and we believe in
6:31
as. Like it like
6:33
a team. And as
6:35
and that a key for us
6:37
because you were of have so
6:39
much time to everywhere Goalkeeper descends,
6:41
midfielders a psych as so everybody
6:44
can yell, step up and say
6:46
or. I want to
6:48
solve the game of gonna do These earth
6:50
But the best thing for the best thing
6:52
for for that. Team.
6:55
Was defended. Dispute that we have
6:57
four years for each other between
6:59
each other or event never week
7:01
was was criminal clearly on display
7:03
in the semifinal against Germany. One
7:05
of most memorable Rocket games and
7:07
history are want to talk about
7:09
your goal? lower your emotions. Before
7:12
that and then immediately following it
7:14
because it was even though was
7:16
one know it was still a
7:18
tight tight contest. Sister's House. And
7:22
never had that game. I mean it
7:24
was so emotional and back and forth
7:26
all the guy or the time l
7:28
saving phone before he the boss for
7:30
us and. So. We
7:32
went one zero of course
7:34
was a bigger be saying
7:36
goes missing one minutes but.
7:39
Because. What you say exactly how
7:41
you never know what happened so for
7:43
other for me that specific moments this
7:46
the only thing that has in mind
7:48
His defense. They. Came back
7:50
to the way the next two deliveries
7:52
say one less thing that the since
7:54
I was a line with the differences.
7:57
On the on the of course left side.
8:00
because I was thinking that that was
8:02
the most important thing since we were
8:04
up. We just need some
8:06
time, buy some time and it's done. And
8:10
then all of a sudden we got this concert
8:12
attack and I say well, I
8:15
remember that still striking. So
8:18
I went all over and make
8:20
this run and everything went
8:23
perfectly. It was an amazing concert attack,
8:25
you know. Before kind of
8:27
Arden thought to them, you know, and make the
8:29
move and assist. It was amazing and
8:32
no look assist. And then my delivery
8:34
on the top corner was... Do
8:37
you remember that celebration? Because you
8:39
were clearly emotional. I remember everything.
8:42
I start running and then I remember
8:45
that on the other side, where I
8:47
scored, there were all our
8:49
fans. They have a little
8:52
piece of the stadium, you know, a thousand
8:54
people where my family was there, my wife,
8:56
everybody was there. So I
8:58
went, first of all on the
9:00
left, start to celebrate and then I said, I
9:02
remember, I want to go there. So
9:05
I went behind the goal where behind
9:08
the goal in this big tournament is a
9:10
full of cameras because automatic
9:13
cameras from the photographs and
9:16
video makers. I need
9:19
to run and jump
9:21
over these cameras without hurting no one of
9:24
them because it was a natural
9:26
feeling. I mean, I don't want to run
9:28
through them. So running
9:31
and trying to keep safe
9:33
myself in order, full speed, in
9:36
order to go to celebrate in front of them. And
9:38
then it was funny because at the end, you know, really
9:42
my wife, my friends, was in the front row,
9:45
supposed to be in the top. And then they
9:47
told me during the game, I said, it was
9:49
so emotional. So we came down, calm down. We
9:51
came down just a few,
9:53
you know, closer and closer. So that
9:55
was the story. And then I end up a little bit in
9:57
front of them. I say, in my mind, I was keeping up.
10:00
celebrating, shouting and I didn't
10:02
understand nothing. I said, but then in the
10:04
back of my mind, what are you doing here? Are you supposed to
10:06
be over there? It
10:09
was super funny and super emotional of course. It was
10:11
the best game that we had. The
10:14
more emotion, the more tough for
10:17
some reason. Of course the final was
10:20
even more for other reasons but
10:22
yeah definitely the best game that we had
10:25
in that war cup. Now you're
10:27
here in New York as Saria
10:29
has sponsored pitches in the Bronx via
10:31
its partnership with Street Soccer USA. The
10:33
inauguration was back in May of 2023.
10:36
Street Soccer aims to
10:38
fight inequality creating an accessible
10:40
space for underserved communities to
10:42
learn to play soccer
10:44
while also growing social and educational
10:46
skills and the digital media center
10:49
that they have allows students
10:51
to learn all about the career opportunities around
10:53
the game. Now you're going to meet with
10:56
some of the students enrolled in the Street
10:58
Soccer USA program which is super exciting.
11:01
I know you're heavily involved in giving
11:03
back to local communities, helping to provide
11:05
opportunities for students off the pitch as
11:07
well as sharing this story of Italian football.
11:10
Well I'm here with Saria for this big
11:12
event that had both of the government that
11:14
we want to do that to promote what
11:21
is the Italian football. We've
11:23
been through a lot but we
11:25
still have amazing teams with incredible
11:28
history and great
11:31
performance till now and European
11:33
level. So it's
11:35
a good moment in order to celebrate,
11:39
promoting and talk about our
11:41
football, our passion and our
11:44
things. In all of this we have amazing
11:46
players, we have amazing coaches, we have a
11:49
lot of these things and
11:51
yeah it's a good moment.
11:53
Coming to New York is always great plus
11:55
if you do it for the thing that
11:58
you have a passion for it. even
12:00
better. Now you know the tri-state area is
12:02
heavily influenced by Italian culture and Serie A
12:04
is so important to so many people here.
12:07
Why do you think Calco is such an
12:09
integral part of this New York community? Because
12:12
it is in our blood, because
12:15
we can avoid it. It's
12:20
a part of our life, it's part
12:22
of our beliefs and
12:24
part of our family
12:27
traditions. It means
12:30
really, really a lot for most of
12:32
us. And it's
12:34
the way to live life, it's a
12:38
lot of things. I
12:41
believe also for sure
12:43
in a place like New York or around the
12:46
world, not in Italy, it's
12:48
also another way to keep close to
12:50
your country, because you
12:52
still focus on your
12:55
favorite team or what
12:57
happened in Italy, what represent to be a
12:59
fan of one team or the other ones,
13:01
what is the dynamics that are going on
13:03
now. So it keeps you close
13:05
to Italy definitely. Serie A has an office
13:07
here in New York. What
13:09
are you looking forward to seeing in the US as
13:11
Serie A starts to grow around this country? Well,
13:15
we're looking, I mean, now
13:17
with, especially with social media, with
13:21
internet, you get closer
13:23
to everything around the world.
13:25
But the presence here with
13:27
the office, for example,
13:29
this event that we do tonight or other events
13:31
that's going on during the year, it's
13:34
also a different way, because living
13:36
experience one-to-one is different than seeing
13:38
on TV. So on TV you can
13:40
see it every time, everywhere, in
13:43
every moment of your day. So being
13:46
in person is a different kind of feeling
13:48
for everybody. So it's good all the time
13:50
that and I fly and I
13:53
live in LA for a lot in
13:56
Australia as well, and I go around the world
13:58
a lot. So when I'm married,
14:00
people, you know, Italians that lives
14:02
somewhere and not in Italy. It's
14:04
a big moment. I felt it
14:07
and I lived outside
14:09
the country so of
14:11
course I miss my country. So that's
14:14
another point where I completely
14:16
understand what's going on in
14:18
these kind of events and
14:20
it's good, you know, sharing some thoughts, some
14:23
talk and hearing
14:25
the different experiences. What
14:27
the people seeing what's
14:30
going on in Italy from here, that
14:32
is another aspect. So
14:35
it's interesting. If you are
14:37
open-minded, it's always interesting. Now
14:40
we're gonna head to the summer. Italy are coming
14:42
into Euros as defending champions. You capped
14:44
them the national team in
14:46
the 2008 Euros coming off the back of
14:48
that World Cup win. What were those expectations
14:50
like and how do you think this team
14:53
will handle that? Expectations
14:57
are always high, you know. But
15:00
I believe that we got big, we got hit by
15:07
a big
15:10
experience in the past, you
15:12
know. We won the Euros
15:14
but we also have
15:16
a really incredible bad experience in North
15:18
Carolina for the World Cup. So
15:21
it's a moment of transition of course the last
15:23
10-12 years but we have a great
15:29
hope for this national team, great
15:31
belief and passion about it and
15:33
about the players, about the coach.
15:37
They are trying to identify
15:39
themselves in a really
15:42
specific identity,
15:45
yeah, having a really specific identity,
15:47
let's say like this. And
15:51
be a team because definitely only
15:53
be a team you can win. Even if you
15:56
have the best player in the world, you need
15:58
to be a team. And even more
16:00
for us that you know maybe if
16:02
you're looking for about these euros you
16:04
can see other national teams
16:06
that have
16:10
to be honest amazing champions that
16:12
maybe we don't have at that level
16:14
yet. Well they're in a group with
16:16
Spain, Croatia, Albania. What do you think
16:19
those teams you know how
16:21
do you think Italy will I guess?
16:25
Well it's a perfect mix of
16:27
of dangerous things that can happen.
16:29
Because Spain is still someone
16:32
that lately to be honest give us a
16:34
lot of headache and
16:36
win often. On the other side,
16:39
Croatia, the incredible history in
16:41
the last 10 years because
16:43
finished second the World Cup and then
16:45
again the Euros they do amazing they
16:47
have great talents in their team. Also
16:51
a little bit change you know a little bit
16:53
of generation speaking
16:55
for them definitely yes a little bit but
16:57
still and then Albania
16:59
is a
17:02
new force a new straight that
17:04
come and means
17:06
to be really really careful as well because
17:08
you know you can't underestimate even
17:11
them and you know
17:13
that group stage give you
17:15
a chance to make some mistakes. True
17:17
but you don't want
17:19
to make mistakes. You don't want to be in that
17:21
trouble and so
17:24
I believe they're going to prepare the games really
17:27
really well it would be ideal of course
17:30
win the first one but also having
17:34
the chance to win the second one would be that
17:36
you need to go to win the game. Yeah you
17:38
can you know predict and say
17:40
oh let's see how it goes no it's
17:43
a it's a fana even if it's a group stage
17:46
and you need to find a way
17:48
to win the game. Let's see
17:51
it's gonna be tough but Italy has the quality
17:53
to go over. Well looking
17:55
looking at the tournament as a whole who do you
17:57
see as the favorites do you have a horse
18:00
country that you think might
18:02
do better than expected and then do you have
18:05
a player you're excited to watch? I
18:12
really hope that Italy is going to be
18:14
that horse. Because
18:18
now I definitely to
18:21
let's say two national teams, France
18:23
and England, definitely they
18:25
are for many reasons
18:28
more chance than the other ones. In
18:31
terms of structure, qualities of the
18:33
players, level of the players, number
18:35
of the players. France maybe
18:37
have a, could put the
18:40
three team of first
18:42
11 that can easily
18:46
participate and doing well in the World Cup. But
18:49
these two teams are definitely the biggest ones to
18:52
face. And
18:56
Italy need to be very smart from my point of
18:58
view. As we did
19:00
in the past, we have qualities, we
19:02
have ideas, we have
19:05
beliefs. And
19:08
that's sometimes enough. If you
19:10
put 100% on that and the
19:12
chemistry between the players and the
19:14
team is great, you can beat
19:16
anyone. Now is there a player
19:18
on Italy that you're excited to
19:20
see that either we don't know
19:22
about or maybe we'll use this
19:24
tournament to kind of show the
19:27
world? No,
19:29
not one in particular to be honest. Because
19:36
the way that Spaletti plays really
19:38
involve everybody. So you need
19:40
a strength of everybody and not
19:44
to be focused on one player or
19:46
to give them too much attention or
19:48
responsibilities. I think everybody
19:51
needs to do their job 100%
19:53
and share this responsibility because
19:56
it's a lot, it means
19:58
a lot to where that Azuliji. It's a big
20:00
thing. We have a
20:03
full history behind the four-workup
20:06
winners. So it's a big
20:08
thing. And they know that.
20:12
They need to find the balance to put
20:16
that heart, mind and passion
20:18
in the game and
20:20
balance it with the emotion that they're
20:23
going to have for sure for this
20:25
kind of event that you just mastered, massive
20:27
event. Now, finishing up, last question. The
20:29
other tournament this summer is the Copa America and it's
20:32
being held here in the U.S. One of the semi-finals
20:34
is being played in the New York area, MetLife
20:37
Stadium in New Jersey. Are there any teams or
20:39
players you'd want playing in that game for
20:42
people in this area to get a chance to watch? Well,
20:47
arriving in the semi-final is
20:49
going to be a huge game in any case. So I think
20:52
U.S. is going to, in New York, we're
20:54
going to enjoy a lot that
20:56
semi-final. Of course,
20:59
IZANDO, Argentina and Brazil
21:01
for many reasons. I
21:04
don't know if there's a
21:06
way that they're going to meet each other in the semi-final.
21:10
Probably everybody were looking for a final
21:12
like this around the world. Or,
21:16
you know, even some locals
21:19
can say something because, you know, it's
21:22
a big thing. I mean,
21:24
South America and Copa America is a
21:26
big thing for every national
21:28
team. And you
21:31
never know what can happen. Talking
21:33
about Copa America and Euros, we
21:37
need to understand that when you
21:39
think about the team, you used to
21:41
see the team, you know, in your
21:43
own league. So if Euros play a
21:45
full 32 games of league, probably,
21:53
France, we're going to win. But
21:57
in the tournament like this, especially when
21:59
you go... to the knockout
22:01
games, it's different. Emotional
22:05
mindset and beliefs
22:08
take and can take a big
22:10
advantage in several qualities of the players. So
22:13
that's why everything can happen, that's
22:15
why this kind of tournament become
22:17
really really interesting and everybody fall in
22:19
love with. Because it's a knockout game
22:21
and you know even David can beat
22:24
Golia and you
22:26
know and that's going to be crazy. So
22:29
I'm really really curious to see what's going to happen.
22:31
Well, Alessandro, it's a pleasure to have you here in
22:33
the US and thank you so much for us. And
22:35
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