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Jacinda Ardern is number five on the NZ Labour party and is a very active and visible play in the New Zealand political scene. We chat about press and the erosion of the fourth estate, intoxicated politicians, laws against online bullying, the Syrian refugee crisis and I have the Australian Christmas Island prisoner disaster explained to me. We broach the leadership question and Jacinda shares her views on NZ's move toward presidential style politics.