Back in 2019, before “furloughed” was even a word, I wanted to write a book called 20/20.

The idea being that the more I look at life, the more I think it important that every woman (frankly every man as well) should have one friend that is twenty years older and one that is twenty years younger. 2020 put paid to publishing that book as so many other issues seemed far more important, not least of which our individual health, but I wanted to revisit this subject.

Of course, we have relatives with these age gaps, but it’s not the same as a friend and we can learn so much that helps our other relationships from our 20/20 friends.

In this first programme of two, I interview my friend Nancy, now twenty three. We talk about why we are friends, her life, what influences her and how we have mutually influenced each other. We also talk about how she should marry one of my sons but that’s a different thing all together! Age gap friendships are the key to spanning the generations and how midlife women pull it all together.