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many of the serial killers covered on time

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suck have been white heterosexual men, guys

0:21

who look kind of like or maybe exactly like I

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don't know, my dad or Pat

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Sajak, most of them by far. And

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who is the most common victim of these serial killers?

0:31

Most often the answer is young white women.

0:34

Very few serial killers are female, less than

0:36

10% of confirmed US

0:38

serial killers are female, and way fewer

0:41

are also either former professional

0:43

wrestlers or at least former

0:45

wannabe professional wrestlers who target

0:47

elderly women. But that's who

0:49

Juana Barraza was. Juana Barraza was

0:51

the first and as far as we know

0:54

as of this recording, only serial killer in

0:56

Mexican history who had an entire task force

0:58

dedicated to catching her. Her

1:00

identity and gender were a mystery at the time of the

1:02

murders. The press and police called the killer

1:04

the old lady killer. And for

1:07

the overwhelming majority of their investigation, most of them

1:09

assumed the killer was a man. A

1:11

big, burly, strong man with large

1:13

and powerful hands, hands capable of

1:16

one strangulation after another. Between

1:18

1998 and 2006, roughly 50 elderly women, at least 48, sources

1:23

vary a bit with some stating 49 victims,

1:26

were killed in Mexico City. These poor

1:28

women were attacked inside their homes, strangled with

1:30

their own possessions. And then despite

1:32

what some sources say, there has

1:34

been a lot of shoddy reporting done regarding this

1:37

case. The killer often stole from

1:39

victims. All the victims were older

1:41

women who lived alone. The murders

1:43

of so many elderly women were deeply shocking and

1:45

upsetting the culture that prizes matriarchs even more than

1:47

our own culture does here in the US. Catching

1:50

became a top priority for the police to solve

1:52

these murders. When witnesses at the seams

1:54

of some of the murders kept seeing a woman who

1:56

fit the same description, the majority of law enforcement assumed

1:59

that the killer was a man. the old lady

2:01

killer, El Mataviatidis,

2:04

must be a man in disguise, dressing

2:06

as a female nurse to earn the lonely

2:08

victim's trust. It was difficult,

2:10

almost impossible, for most investigators

2:12

to accept that a woman

2:15

could be such a brutal killer. In

2:17

a culture that assigns historically much more

2:19

stereotypical traits to each gender, a

2:21

predominantly male investigative force just did not think

2:24

that women, for lack of a better phrase,

2:26

had it in them, to strangle a bunch of people.

2:29

Women's nature just too gentle and

2:31

nurturing for this type of crime. And

2:34

the exceptionally rare woman, who may have wanted

2:36

to kill person after person with her bare

2:38

hands, even elderly women living alone, well, she

2:40

just couldn't be strong enough to commit such

2:42

a crime, could she? You know,

2:44

were her lady muscles even capable of such a

2:46

thing? There really was a lot of backwards

2:48

thinking going on in this case. Juan

2:51

Abraza was, due to the cultural perceptions

2:53

of women in general, an extremely unlikely

2:55

suspect for the crime she committed, which

2:57

undoubtedly helped her continue to kill as long as she did.

3:00

She was never on law enforcement radar, even when she was

3:02

finally caught. Some officers remained

3:05

so convinced that a woman was

3:07

incapable of committing the old lady murders that

3:09

they had her strip searched, asking a

3:11

female officer to check and make sure

3:13

that she didn't have a penis. Seriously.

3:16

Once they got wanted talking, though, in several ways,

3:18

she fit the classic profile of a serial killer. She

3:22

was sexually abused during her childhood. She'd been

3:24

abandoned by her father when she was just

3:26

a baby. Her mother physically and emotionally abused

3:28

her continually before giving her to a sexually

3:31

abusive man who would rape her repeatedly. She

3:33

hated her mother for never protecting her. And

3:35

as time went on, she developed a deep

3:37

rooted hatred of maternal figures in general. It

3:40

didn't take much for her to despise any

3:42

woman old enough to be her mother. In

3:45

the end, Juan would be convicted of 16 murders and

3:47

sentenced to 759 years in prison, the

3:50

longest sentence ever handed down to

3:52

any killer in Mexico's history. She's

3:55

also thought by many who worked on her case to

3:57

be responsible for the deaths of 48 or possibly 40. 49

4:00

older women, all of whom were violently strangled

4:03

to death. In this episode, we'll

4:05

discuss the history of serial killers in Mexico,

4:07

the life and crimes of Juana Barraza, how

4:09

she maybe became a professional wrestler and

4:12

then used her lucha libre skills against

4:14

victims, and more on this week's Sunday,

4:16

Sunday, Sunday, the Lady of Silence takes

4:18

on your grandma in a cage match

4:21

fight to the death. Very

4:23

true crime meets kind of fake wrestling edition

4:26

of TimeSuck. This is Michael McDonald and

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hablemos de la dama

6:59

del salencio. Okay, so here's how we're laying this out.

7:09

First we're gonna start with an overview of

7:11

Mexico City, where the Mata Villajita murders took

7:13

place, followed by a brief discussion

7:15

of serial killers place in Mexican history, and

7:18

then a timeline of the life and crimes of Juan Abaraza.

7:21

Mexico City is not only

7:24

the largest city in Mexico, but it's the largest

7:26

city in the Milky Way, slightly bigger than Flala,

7:29

La Whittlesticks on Kepler-186f amongst

7:31

the Cygnus constellation, capital of

7:33

the Andromeda Confederacy, with the

7:35

population of approximately 20 million

7:37

rebel Arcturians, whose ancestors left

7:40

Bode's constellation over a thousand

7:42

years ago. At least

7:44

that's what some fellow truthers and I have

7:47

recently uncovered. But all this to us, we're

7:49

continually written off as just being crazy tin foil hatters,

7:52

for merely suggesting that A, the Arcturians are

7:54

real, B, they have clone

7:56

Corey Feldman, Avril Lavigne, and many of

7:58

other Earth's most important celebrities and sharpest

8:00

minds. And C, they are currently using 5G

8:02

cell phone towers to infect us with viruses

8:05

to diminish our cognitive abilities and make us

8:07

easier to control this mindless shapel. Probably

8:10

took that nonsense a bit too far. What

8:12

I should have said was Mexico City is the

8:14

largest city in all of North America with a

8:16

population of over 9.2 million people

8:19

living inside the city limits and just under 22 million

8:22

people living in the metro area as

8:25

of last count, which means probably over 22 million people

8:28

living there now. It is the

8:30

fifth most populous city in the world

8:32

behind Tokyo, Delhi, Shanghai and Sao Paulo.

8:35

Tokyo's urban area population is now an

8:37

outrageous 37.5 million.

8:40

That's fucking crazy. That's

8:42

roughly 20 times the amount of people living in all

8:44

of Idaho lumped into one massive

8:46

concentration of urban living. That's almost

8:48

10 million more people than Delhi, the world's

8:51

second most populous city. You

8:53

could take the entire Los Angeles metro

8:55

area, the world's 23rd most populous city,

8:57

double it, still need to

8:59

add the entire Dallas Fort Worth metro

9:01

area around the world's 60th

9:03

biggest urban area to almost have

9:06

as many people as Tokyo has by

9:08

itself. Sorry, I'm

9:10

easily distracted by numerical anomalies like that.

9:13

This story has nothing to do with

9:15

Tokyo or Flulala, Whittlesticks on Kepler 186F

9:17

or whatever the fuck I was saying.

9:20

The real history of Mexico City

9:23

dates back to either 1325 or 1327 CE, officially recognized as 1325 since

9:25

1925. When it was founded

9:32

by the Mexica, the

9:35

term the Aztecs used to refer to themselves,

9:37

their actual name. The

9:39

Mexica left their homeland of Astellán,

9:43

located in present-day Northwestern Mexico and

9:45

the southwestern United States in the

9:47

12th century, arriving in

9:49

the Valley of Mexico where modern-day Mexico City

9:51

is located by the early 14th century. After

9:54

leaving Astellán, the original nomadic hunter-gatherer

9:56

is called, the Mexica met with

9:58

another group of Nahuatl people

10:00

who lived in the Valley of Mexico, and

10:03

their bloodlines converged. The Aztec

10:05

Mexica people in the Valley of Mexico

10:07

were agriculturalists who planted in raised fields

10:10

that were often called floating gardens, because

10:12

they were typically surrounded by water. They also

10:14

hunted and fished. According to legend

10:16

in the early 14th century, the Mexica, let's just

10:19

call them Aztecs now, were looking for a permanent

10:21

home when a priest named Tenoch had

10:23

a vision where the sun and war god, which

10:26

he, Lapochli,

10:30

instructs the Aztecs to look for a sacred site where

10:32

they would find an eagle holding a snake in its

10:34

beak, perched on a prickly pear cactus. Very

10:37

specific instructions. I like

10:39

it. That is some solid communication, a solid instruction.

10:42

Don't just go find some random fucking snake and

10:45

call it a day. Don't find some

10:47

random-ass eagle and call it a day. Don't

10:49

even think you're done when you see some

10:51

eagle holding a snake. Now, that eagle

10:53

needs to be holding a snake and needs

10:56

to be perched on not just any cactus,

10:58

but a prickly pear cactus. The

11:01

Aztecs found this sign on an island on

11:03

the western edge of Lake Texcoco, and

11:07

in 1325 they founded the

11:09

city-state of Tenochtitlan, situated

11:11

in present-day Mexico City's historic center.

11:14

The symbol from the priest's dream became the emblem of the

11:16

city, now part of Mexico's flag. Following

11:19

the founding of their great capital, the Aztecs went on

11:21

to have a pretty good run as a kingdom, built

11:24

some badass pyramids and temples, conquered

11:26

many a rival, sacrificed

11:28

many a kid and a young virgin a

11:30

woman to Cente Oto, the corn god. You

11:34

can't grow fucking corn without shedding

11:36

some kid in lady blood. Ask any farmer. Then,

11:39

in the early 16th century, some Spaniards came along

11:41

and fucked everything up for the Aztecs. Led

11:44

by conquistador Hernan Cortes, the Spaniards arrived

11:46

in Mexico in 1519, and then Spain

11:49

would conquer Aztec territory in late 1521.

11:52

Cortes would rebuild Tenochtitlan to

11:55

erase all traces of the

11:57

Aztecs, although the Spanish preserved

11:59

a But Tenochtitlan's basic layout,

12:02

they built Catholic churches on top of the

12:04

old Aztec temples and claimed

12:06

the imperial palaces for themselves. Tenochtitlan

12:09

was renamed Mexico, which meant

12:11

the place in the center of the moon in

12:13

the Aztecs language, and it was

12:16

named this because the Spanish found that word easier

12:18

to pronounce. Tenochtitlan, which

12:20

I fucking get. I'd

12:22

be changing all sorts of shit, all

12:24

sorts of names. Easier to pronounce stuff if

12:26

I conquered basically any country, even America, especially

12:29

Hawaii. But the only

12:31

streets in Hawaii that I can pronounce are the

12:33

ones with numbers, just the number of streets. Anything

12:35

that has a word, coin toss

12:37

it best. And now, just

12:39

like Tenochtitlan was the focal point of the

12:42

Aztec empire, Mexico City becomes the

12:44

heart of Mexico, and still is. Mexico

12:47

City's metropolitan population constitutes

12:49

about one-fifth of the total population of the

12:51

country, is the economic center of the nation,

12:54

and the capital also has the largest concentration

12:56

of government jobs in the country. Most

12:59

of the country's urban elite concentrated in Mexico City,

13:01

where there are also millions of people living in

13:03

poverty. Mexico City

13:05

accounts for almost one-fourth of Mexico's total GDP.

13:09

Over three-fourths of the city's income comes from

13:11

the service sector and one-fourth from manufacturing. The

13:14

service sector includes banks, other financial

13:16

services, restaurants, hotels, entertainment, media, advertising and

13:18

government, tourism, also an increasing part of

13:21

the service sector. Tourism

13:24

in Mexico City has actually been booming in

13:26

recent years, contrary to what

13:28

many people seem to believe. Back in

13:30

2016, the New York Times listed Mexico

13:32

City as the number one recommended destination

13:34

to visit, out of anywhere in the world. And

13:37

just recently, in November of 2023, Time Out Magazine

13:39

listed Mexico City as the number one city in

13:42

the world for culture. My

13:44

sitter spent a summer there learning Spanish in the early 2000s,

13:46

wanted to move there. My

13:49

old college roommate, current buddy old pal Eddie

13:51

Maraz, loves Mexico City. He

13:53

lives in New York City, has for over a

13:55

decade now, and he finds Mexico City to be

13:57

more cosmopolitan than New York. Any

14:00

big urban area now had and still has his

14:02

problems. As quoted by forbes.

14:05

In. The nineteen nineties early two thousands Mexico

14:07

City was known for smog sprawls and

14:09

street crime and was not usually near

14:11

the top the list of cities most

14:14

international tourists wanted to visit. That

14:16

time. So inside exactly with a Lady

14:18

of Silence is killing years. Thankfully,

14:21

over the ten fifteen years, Govern. Officials

14:23

in private entrepreneurs have tried and seemingly

14:25

succeeded at creating a lot of urban

14:28

renewal. Although Mexico City overall

14:30

currently has a pretty strong economy, it's many

14:32

of it's residents are do still live in

14:34

poverty. And more were impoverished

14:36

back in. One brother was still he

14:38

was who seek help skimming. And

14:41

his economic situation sector greatly in who she chose

14:43

to kill, On how she was able to get

14:45

her victims to trust her. And. Vytorin to

14:47

their homes and get away with killing them.

14:50

The. Wealth disparity, max skill, or even worse than it

14:52

is here in the Us. And

14:54

twenty twenty one, the top ten percent of

14:56

Americans held Nearly seventy percent of us was.

14:58

A Methadone the same year. Top ten

15:01

percent of Mexicans held nearly seventy eight

15:03

Point seven percent. Of. Mexico's national

15:05

wealth. Also, and Twenty Twenty

15:07

one. The bottom fifty percent

15:09

of Us. population held only two point

15:11

six percent of the nation's total wealth.

15:14

Or. The top one percent of households held

15:16

thirty two point three percent. Of. The

15:18

nation's wealth. That's fucking crazy. The.

15:20

Population The U in two thousand, Twenty one

15:22

or three hundred and thirty one Point nine

15:24

million says the Tic. Under a hundred and

15:26

sixty Six million of those people collectively. Held.

15:29

Two point Six percent of the nation's wealth.

15:31

Or just to take over Three point Three

15:33

million. Those people. Collectively held at

15:35

thirty two point three percent.

15:38

Of the nation's wealth. Somebody. Has

15:40

the have nots and are so many more have

15:42

not been house or to get us even worse

15:44

and at. In Mexico in Mexico City.

15:47

Mexico, the richest. Twenty percent house households

15:49

have an income ten times higher than

15:51

the poorest. Twenty percent, the top one

15:53

percent of households whole, forty six point

15:55

nine percent the nation's wealth. And

15:57

a bottom fifty percent of the population collected.

16:00

Hold. Negative Point Zero Two percent

16:03

of the was. A

16:05

full half of Mexico's population

16:07

have more deaths than assets.

16:10

Are make those government publishes Most recent

16:12

Report On Income And Twenty Twenty One

16:14

Ah effective January First of Twenty Twenty

16:16

Four, the minimum salary in the capital

16:18

increase to approximately Fourteen Fifty U S

16:21

dollars a day or a dollar eighty

16:23

one an hour. An increase of

16:25

twenty percent from twenty twenty three. For.

16:27

Somebody working full time, which in Mexico is generally eight

16:29

hours a day and six days a week, not five.

16:32

That. Works out to around forty five hundred

16:34

dollars a year. Forty five hundred dollars a

16:36

year for some work and six days a

16:38

week every single fucking way to the. The

16:41

recent report shows a two point five million

16:43

people in Mexico City or less than six

16:45

thousand and forty dollars a year, And only

16:47

around fifty thousand people earn over thirty thousand

16:50

dollars a year. So. Most of the

16:52

city lower middle class or impoverished. Now.

16:55

The cost of living Mexico City compared the average

16:57

cost of living in the Us is way cheaper.

17:00

Or and forty five percent cheaper. The

17:02

still. Imagine trying to live on ten

17:04

thousand dollars a year. And. Us, which

17:06

is what forty five hundred hours a max deal

17:09

would equate to America. For

17:11

reference. Somebody. Who makes no tips?

17:13

Makes us feel Federal Minimum wage carly

17:15

of Seven dollars Twenty five cents an

17:17

hour within five days. Forty hours a

17:19

week? A five is a forty hours

17:22

a week. Ah. Would

17:24

make just over fifteen thousand dollars a year. right?

17:27

At the poverty line and now take away

17:29

full third of that money. And

17:31

a couple million people in Mexico City alone

17:33

somehow living like that right now. And

17:36

was worse twenty to thirty years ago when

17:38

our story takes place, Defining

17:40

poverty as an individual living on

17:42

less than five dollars and fifty

17:44

us five. Fifty. U S dollars a

17:47

day. And twenty twenty thirty two

17:49

point five percent of Mexico's population lived

17:51

in poverty. Back. And I to

17:53

ninety eight when want to be get her reign

17:55

as a serial killer. Fifty five point two percent.

17:58

of mexico's population lived in pa Over

18:00

half. A lot of poor people. And

18:03

oftentimes, the times get tough, right? The elderly hurt more

18:05

than the rest of the adult population because so many

18:07

of them are no longer able to work like they

18:09

used to be able to due to

18:12

physical and or mental limitations. The

18:14

elderly are often more dependent than working adults, as

18:17

you would likely guess, on government

18:19

and or familial assistance. When

18:21

the lady of silence was silenced in one abuela after

18:23

another, a lot of folks in Mexico City were hurting

18:25

for money. And a good chunk of those people were elderly.

18:28

Many of them living alone. And when some

18:30

nice-seeming lady came around telling them she worked for

18:32

the government, said they'd been sent to help them

18:35

based on a new government economic assistance initiative they

18:37

had likely already read about in the paper or

18:39

heard about on the news, well, they listened. They

18:42

trusted her. They were likely overjoyed that she'd

18:44

come to help them. Probably thought she was

18:46

a godsend. And then a few

18:48

moments or minutes later, that godsend was

18:50

literally strangling them to death. The

18:53

case of the old little, little old lady killer also

18:56

took place during a period of a major

18:58

increase in homicides overall in Mexico. Law

19:01

enforcement dealing with so many damn murders. It

19:03

took longer for them to notice a trend in some of the

19:05

killings that signaled the work of an actual serial killer. And

19:08

so many of these cops and other members of

19:10

Mexico's judicial system were just wildly corrupt. Several

19:13

major Colombian drug cartels were shut down

19:15

or nearly shut down in the 1990s,

19:18

which led to the North American drug trade shifting

19:21

primarily to Mexico. During

19:23

this transition, the Mexican government was unable

19:25

to effectively address the problems with drug

19:27

cartels due to its own widespread economic

19:29

problems coupled with a history of

19:31

governmental corruption that included law enforcement. As

19:35

one of many examples, in 2005, the year

19:37

before the Lady of the Silence was captured, in

19:39

Nuevo Laredo, a Mexican border town across the

19:42

border from Laredo, Texas, due

19:44

to widespread corruption in law enforcement, Mexico's

19:46

national government, the federales suspended the city's

19:48

police force, sent in the federal police

19:51

to patrol the streets. Federal authorities proceeded

19:53

to purge the local police, Eventually

19:55

firing 305 of these 765 police officers. Forty

20:00

one of them for attacking federal police.

20:03

When. Those units arrived, the city's went to fucking war with

20:05

them. Over three or officers

20:07

fired may them later imprisoned because they been

20:09

bought and paid for by drug cartels. Like.

20:12

Outlaw Said As and a similar

20:14

cartel. Seen. A low cartel founded,

20:16

The Ninety Seven has been the largest, most

20:18

powerful drug cartel in the world for many

20:20

years now. These. Cartels has thousands and

20:22

thousands of police and other government officials in

20:24

their pockets when the lady of Silence was

20:26

telling. and they still do. Not

20:29

the best environments when you try to put

20:31

together a a top tier squad of homicide

20:33

detectives to catch a serial killer. And

20:36

as I mentioned, in addition to the corruption you other a

20:38

lot of murders. right? With all the

20:40

Cartels in their battles for a drug trade supremacy

20:43

came a meal. There comes a a of killing.

20:46

Saw. A ninety ninety eighty or one

20:48

is more it was. Murder spree began. Makes murder

20:50

rate was just under fifteen per one hundred thousand.

20:53

That year, the Mexico City metro area

20:55

was home to seventeen point nine million

20:57

people. With. Me, that approximately twenty

20:59

seven hundred murders were committed just in

21:02

Mexico City. Just in Nineteen Ninety Eight.

21:04

When twenty seven hundred people are be murdered in

21:07

a city in one, you. How much

21:09

law enforcement time and money is willing to

21:11

be dedicated to scientists? Somebody who has strengthened

21:13

some elderly women. Also. Makes

21:16

to law enforcement not well equipped experience

21:18

wise to track down specifically a serial

21:20

killer. The. Concept of a serial

21:22

killer been active in Mexico City seems laughable

21:24

to most investigators when a lot of grandma

21:27

started turning up marked. Circular.

21:29

Just weren't thought to be a phenomenon

21:31

that occurred in Mexico ever. Are

21:34

they were monsters? The plate people in other places like

21:36

us. They. Were characters and movies. They

21:39

were not residents. Of. Mexico City, One

21:42

brother are often called mess those first

21:44

serial killer and I was actually not

21:47

true. But I do understand now why

21:49

that's been set. Or their worst,

21:51

Iraq. There was a Mexico before wanna but she

21:53

was the first to have a dedicated task force

21:55

created to catch her before she was identify. All

21:57

the others were identified a serial killers only after.

22:00

They were record. And. Despite other Mexican

22:02

serial killers having been identified as such

22:04

before the rest of the radio silence,

22:06

there were still a widespread belief that

22:08

Mexico just did not have sort of.

22:10

those. On February twelve two

22:12

thousand and six weeks after wanna was

22:14

arrested. Renato Solidum already of the Deputy

22:16

Prosecutor with the Mexico City Department of

22:18

Justice. Called serial killing

22:20

quotes in unknown phenomena. In.

22:23

Mexico, Months earlier the

22:25

Two thousand and Five Symposium on serial

22:27

killer Mexico City He said Mexico was

22:29

space in a terrifying a new phenomenon,

22:31

the presence now indisputable of a serial

22:34

killer. That. Which happens to us

22:36

today did not happen to us before. It

22:38

happened in movies in United States.

22:40

However, violence and crime have also

22:42

become globalist. The. Serial killer of

22:45

elderly women fell at matter via he.

22:47

This is example of this. There.

22:49

Were so many people getting fucking murdered

22:51

in Mexico ever? years and law enforcement

22:53

been so played by continue corruption. Who

22:55

knows how many Zero killers were active

22:57

and hi my skill for years. There

23:00

have for sure at least been a few. I'll as

23:02

me a couple. Before. We jump into

23:04

the timeline of wanna story. In

23:06

the late nineteenth century. The first of

23:09

two infamous Mexican serial killers. Both will be

23:11

some known as Mexican Jack the Ripper so

23:13

ah was butchering women. Francisco.

23:15

The Rural Press. Is. Also known

23:18

as L A Select Hero The

23:20

Mets him, Bluebeard, The Council.or River

23:22

Strangler The Consul.cause a lot Or

23:24

river River The silly little sweet

23:26

pie bad boys maybe these is

23:28

Rosie read: bottom spanked a bit

23:31

harder. Or maybe the last one

23:33

was not want as as many nicknames but the rest were real.

23:36

Solid. Salah Carroll was a contemporary of

23:38

the British Yes River Act. Between Eighteen

23:40

Eighty Eight, Eighty Ninety One, We

23:42

did a upset about Jack back in May

23:44

of two thousand and eighteen bonus of twenty

23:46

one. Peloton Solitaire

23:49

exotic arrow Thompson spends expression

23:51

ah to lego. Which.

23:53

Means by hook or by crook.

23:55

Ah select also can invest. While

23:58

some sources are but his nickname some from him

24:00

been roses, other sources say you did the dude

24:02

like to Our best. Either

24:04

way, the son of a bitch Vassar Novus. Sealed.

24:07

Up to Twenty female sex workers. Mexico City

24:09

between eighteen, Eighteen, Eighteen, Eighty Eight. But.

24:12

Was not identified as a serial killer until about a

24:14

century later. Due to processors of

24:16

the time somehow only be able to find

24:18

him guilty of a single murder despite a

24:20

lot of circumstantial evidence indicated that he was

24:23

for serves a butcher of many women. Darrelle.

24:26

Brutally raped his victims repeatedly, sometimes over the

24:28

span of several days. he beat them, torture

24:30

them when he finally decided to kill them

24:33

in, strangle them, or slit their throats. Sometimes.

24:36

In his blood lust and raids would

24:38

also decapitate them. Even more disturbing the

24:40

strains Fucker I would allegedly skyn some

24:42

of his victims and then Sky worked

24:44

as a shoemaker. would use that Skyn

24:46

to make some Lady Skyn suits. Yeah.

24:49

Latest ensues. Pretty

24:52

dark. But. What

24:54

does your the coolest looking, most comfortable she's on earth.

24:57

Would. You wear a pair of latest census. Was.

25:00

A give? Really? Without. A natural causes.

25:03

Them. As you were paralyzed insists. I

25:05

I I I couldn't I would please me

25:07

out too much but I'm sure some people

25:09

would. Imagine me to somebody

25:11

stop summon up problem on the zeus and i'm like

25:13

aw thanks how some of the fence about of you

25:16

know to them be made out of legs out of

25:18

someone's skin or lives or but i really like. reminds.

25:21

Me: the German into war period butcher a

25:23

Carl Dinky remember him. Subject. Of

25:26

such to Forty Five, the cannibal of

25:28

zombies south. Col

25:30

Skyn when it is it comes to and

25:32

after turning human skin into somehow leather, he

25:34

made suspenders, shoelaces, bell settlers victims, sort of,

25:36

the random people who had no idea what

25:38

they're buying. A Dean, The

25:40

Butcher Plainfield bonus up seventeen he me

25:42

all sorts of shit our human skin,

25:44

nipple belt a one. He.

25:47

Didn't sell his dark arts and crafts projects.

25:49

Anybody like to wear that shit himself? Out

25:51

alone in the middle of a farm fields on of

25:53

light or full moon. Sometimes if you are. like

25:57

minister to tell us more recent times guerrero

25:59

targets workers. Officials started noticing

26:01

the disappearance of several sex workers in 1880. At that

26:03

time, sex work,

26:05

legal and controlled by the government. But

26:08

the case didn't receive widespread attention until 1886 when

26:11

some mutilated bodies were found near

26:13

the Rio Consolado. Overall,

26:16

20 bodies would be found, many of them mutilated. But

26:18

the police never arrested Guerrero despite him apparently

26:20

openly talking about committing the killings to anyone

26:22

who would listen. Until 1888, when one of his

26:26

victims escaped and reported him. People

26:28

he bragged about the murders to later said they were

26:30

just too afraid to say anything. While

26:33

Guerrero wouldn't confess in court to any actual murders,

26:35

he did openly confess at his trial that

26:37

he liked to have sex, quote, with minors who

26:39

were virgins and that he liked

26:42

biting his victims. What the

26:44

fuck just said that shit like it was no big deal. Perez

26:47

still sentenced to death after being found guilty of

26:49

one murder but for reasons never made explicitly clear.

26:52

Mexican president Porfirio

26:56

Diaz took pity on this pile

26:58

of shit and had a sentence reduced to 20 years

27:00

in prison. Right? He's not that

27:02

bad. Come on. He only

27:04

legally for sure killed like one chick.

27:07

He's never really such a big deal. Have you seen how many

27:09

women we have in this country? Do you understand how annoying some

27:11

of them can be? I think about killing my wife

27:13

five, six times a year. Easy. We're

27:15

really not so different. President. He just had a bad day. He

27:19

was later released less than 16 years into his

27:21

sentence when his inmate file was misplaced. He

27:24

was accidentally lumped in with a group of other prisoners who

27:26

were released in 1984, 1904 after

27:29

being granted presidential amnesty. The

27:31

Mexican judicial system. Just fucking killing it

27:33

for so long now. Four

27:37

years after his release in 1908, he was arrested

27:39

on the shore of the Río Consolado. Right? He

27:41

goes back to the same river after

27:43

he killed an 80-year-old woman. A

27:46

woman listed as a sex worker in some sources. Also a

27:48

woman listed as being 40 years old in

27:51

other sources. God, I fucking hope she

27:53

was not an 80-year-old sex worker. I

27:56

mean, if she loved sex work, okay,

27:58

fine. You know, do what you love. love.

28:01

You know, as long as it's not hurting anybody. I mean,

28:03

if she loved her job, and had no

28:05

interest in retiring, good for her.

28:07

Get the motorboat with those octogenarian

28:10

tatas. Right? Hail to Safina.

28:12

However, I'm pretty skeptical regarding the

28:14

possibility of an 80 year old woman who just

28:16

wakes up every day, all too happy to

28:19

put on her fishnets and miniskirt, eagerly

28:21

throwing on some high heel boots to

28:23

go to her knees, slathering on some

28:25

ruby red lipstick and really squishing her

28:27

gravitationally elongated tits into a push up

28:29

bra, maybe a bit too small, and

28:31

just thinking, hashtag blessed. How

28:33

blessed am I to still be living this dream?

28:36

Carpe diem. Mama

28:38

cannot wait to hit these streets. Time

28:40

to put this pussy pastry dispenser back to

28:43

work. Every day I'm hustling

28:45

hustling. Abuela nacita la

28:47

poya. Abuela nacita la poya.

28:50

Hoder esta con yo. Hoder

28:52

esta con yo. Ses

28:56

paro arcos son. Et tu tienes

28:58

le cuppa. Creno le tas mal

29:00

nombre al amor. Fucking master

29:02

class. Yeah, I'm fluent in

29:04

Italian, Spanish bitches. I did just

29:07

sing some banjovi in Spanish, perfectly I might add.

29:09

Got a flex on you fools from time to

29:12

time. Enchilada salada te cate entono banderas.

29:17

Anyway, for those of you still listening, when Guerrero was caught

29:19

for this killing, he still literally had blood on

29:21

his hands. Guerrero died in November of 1910, the age

29:24

of 70 of either tuberculosis or typhoid fever.

29:27

He was supposed to be executed, but prison officials just never

29:29

got around to giving him an execution date. You

29:32

heard that right. They were supposed to give him a date for

29:34

his execution, but they were like, I don't know, they were busy

29:36

or something. They were just taking bribes, probably having

29:38

sex with government sex workers. They weren't paying

29:40

and maybe also not investigating their

29:43

murders when those happened. Again, the

29:45

Mexican judicial system running a fucking real

29:47

tight ship, the tightest of

29:49

tight ships. Lomas especcio de

29:52

los barcos a postados. I

29:56

got something in my mouth. A postados is what I meant to say at

29:58

the end there. Decades

30:00

later, 1942, a man named

30:02

Gregorio Goyo Cardenas became

30:04

known as the second Mexican Jack the Ripper when

30:07

he killed his girlfriend and three sex workers. And

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meet Gregorio Goyo Cardenas, another Mexican

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serial killer who was active before

35:32

Mexico's first supposed serial killer, Juan

35:34

Barraza. In August

35:36

1942, Goyo, most

35:38

commonly called the cucuba strangler in the press, paid

35:41

a 16-year-old sex worker named Maria de

35:43

los Angeles Gonzalez and took her

35:45

to his home. After they had sex, she

35:47

went to go use his bathroom. He followed her in

35:50

there, strangled her with a cord, buried her in his

35:52

garden. Eight days later, he

35:54

killed a sex worker whose identity would never be determined,

35:57

but she was believed to be a minor. In the garden,

35:59

burial ground, her corpse also went. Six

36:01

days after her murder, he hired another sex

36:04

worker named Rosal Reyes Quiros, listed

36:06

in sources as a minor, exact

36:08

age never given. In Rosa's

36:10

case, when she decided she did not want to

36:12

sleep with him, he strangled her with a cord,

36:15

had sex with her corpse, then buried her again

36:17

in his backyard garden. And

36:19

he may have practiced necrophilia with all the corpses that ended

36:21

up in his garden. Sources buried exactly

36:23

who this sicko fucked once they were dead.

36:27

Four days after Rosa's murder, now

36:29

he kills his girlfriend, 21 year old

36:31

Graciela Reyes Avalos, a

36:33

fellow chemistry student. He picked her up

36:35

after school, drove her home. He claimed that she

36:38

refused to kiss him. So naturally,

36:40

he beat her to death in his car. What's

36:42

he supposed to fucking do? Respect her autonomy?

36:45

And politely ask her why she was not romantically interested

36:47

in him? At that time, work on

36:49

his communication and courting skills? Maybe respectfully end

36:51

the relationship and move on with his life

36:53

and never bother or assault her? He took

36:57

her body home before burying her in the garden.

36:59

He put her corpse under his bed, then committed

37:01

numerous acts of necrophilia with Graciela's corpse, before

37:03

burying her next to the other victims the following day in

37:05

the garden. Four days later,

37:08

his mom had him hospitalized at

37:10

his insistence. Then in

37:12

a psychiatric facility, he was interviewed by a private

37:14

detective searching for his dead girlfriend, Graciela. He confessed

37:17

to killing her and burying her body. Police

37:19

came to the hospital. He took them to the

37:22

burial site. They found all four corpses. He

37:24

also showed investigators his journal, which

37:26

was essentially his confession book. Part

37:28

of Goyo's confession stated, they

37:31

were women of the street. I offered them

37:33

money. I took them to my home where

37:35

they sated me. After having

37:37

them, I do not know what I became,

37:39

what I felt. It was something horrible, a

37:41

horrific hatred towards those women, all women, an

37:44

inexplicable frenzy, the invincible impulse to

37:46

destroy, to tear, to kill. And I

37:48

killed them. Goyo was convicted

37:50

for all four murders. I should hope so. Then

37:53

sent to a prison psych ward during his trial

37:55

for the first time ever. The Mexican press published

37:57

detailed reports about the depraved acts committed by one

37:59

of the very owned serial killers although at that

38:01

time they did not refer to him as a serial killer

38:03

because that coin would not be termed until 1974. Two

38:07

years later the guy who just murdered four women

38:09

escaped. Fucking two years later he escapes

38:13

makes it to the state of Oaxaca and gets

38:15

a job at a rural school as a teacher. Yet

38:18

again the Mexican criminal justice

38:21

system what the fuck might want

38:23

to maybe kind of pay close attention to

38:26

a dude who just went on a murder and necrophilia spree.

38:29

Goyo will soon be recaptured and then will be

38:31

placed into the general prison population where he will

38:33

earn a law degree, author five

38:35

books and do so much more. Somehow

38:38

while in prison he'll amass a small library of over 200

38:40

books in his cell and also in his cell he

38:42

will play the fucking organ that

38:44

his mom brought him. How big was his cell? He

38:47

will also get married and father four

38:50

kids with his wife while

38:52

in prison for four murders. Who

38:55

was running the prison this guy was in? Four

38:57

kids is that really good idea just to let dudes who

38:59

literally cannot be present fathers make babies. After

39:02

34 years of being incarcerated Goyo's lawyer

39:04

will argue that he should be released because he's no longer

39:06

mentally ill and the maximum sentence for murder was

39:08

30 years when he was convicted. Goyo

39:10

was released in September of 1976 at the age of 61. He goes on

39:13

to work as a lawyer

39:16

for many years becomes a minor celebrity. He

39:18

was considered quote a testament to the effectiveness of

39:21

the reformatory system. He was invited

39:23

to the chamber of deputies, the lower

39:25

chamber of the federal legislative power of Mexico where

39:28

he would receive a standing ovation for

39:30

being such a great example of the power of rehabilitation.

39:33

They even considered briefly having a statue erected

39:35

in his honor. Goyo

39:37

died in 1999 in natural causes at the age of

39:39

84. What

39:41

the fuck is wrong with so many people? I

39:44

got an idea how about if you strangle even just one

39:46

woman to death and fuck her corpse. You're

39:49

permanently disqualified from statute consideration.

39:52

How about you're permanently disqualified from being invited to

39:54

Congress? How about you're permanently

39:56

disqualified from ever receiving a standing ovation

39:59

or applause of any kind for fucking anything.

40:01

Like not even on your birthday. You've

40:04

earned the shame of being a social pariah for the

40:06

rest of your days. Also

40:08

as ridiculous as I find the US criminal

40:11

justice systems reasoning, oftentimes Mexico's

40:13

criminal justice system truly seems to be a

40:16

total shit show of epic proportions. And

40:19

there have been other serial killers like one subject I hope to

40:21

do at least a short suck on one of these days or

40:23

longer one if there's enough info Magdalena

40:25

Solis aka the high priestess

40:27

of blood. She

40:29

was arrested in Yerba Buena May 31st

40:31

1963 when she was only around the age of

40:33

16 exact date of her birth not known.

40:36

While Solis was only convicted of two

40:38

murders authorities believed at least eight murders

40:41

were at the hands of Solis or

40:44

at least you know she was involved in these murders and they suspected she

40:46

was involved in as many as 15. She

40:49

joined a cult and became a misleader. She

40:51

presented herself to followers and said Aztec goddess

40:54

and she would lead crazy rituals in a cave. These

40:57

rituals initially seemed to center around animal sacrifice

40:59

and orgies. Soon the drinking of

41:01

human blood was incorporated and then things

41:03

escalated from there to include ritualized torture and

41:06

human sacrifice all done

41:08

in the name of pleasing the goddess and

41:10

attaining supernatural powers and shit. Fucking wild

41:12

story. They were already looking into to

41:14

find out how suck worthy it is. And

41:17

now for the meat of today's suck worthy

41:19

story the story of a serial

41:21

killer thought to be responsible for 40 plus murders

41:23

who was convicted for 16 the

41:26

first person in Mexican history it seems to have

41:28

a serial killer task force assembled to hunt them

41:30

down and what was it

41:32

about these murders that shocked Mexico enough to form

41:34

a task force. Why in a

41:36

nation of so many murders did these murders get

41:39

so much media attention. In a

41:41

word abuela in

41:43

the court of public opinion not all

41:45

murders are equal. We've gone over

41:47

that a ton of times. I've talked about that a lot here. Historically

41:50

the deaths of sex workers get the

41:52

least attention. Their deaths have all

41:54

too often been filed away as some kind of

41:56

hazard of the trade. Next

41:58

to deaths of those involved in some way with criminal

42:00

syndicates such as street gangs or drug cartels also

42:02

often seen as a trade hazard. If you don't

42:05

want to get cut up and have your parts

42:07

dumped in some river you shouldn't have been fucking

42:09

around with a scene of low cartel motherfucker. People

42:12

addicted to hard drugs often written

42:14

off as junkies when they're killed. Next

42:17

when it comes to media coverage and

42:19

the public outrage generated by media coverage,

42:21

the killings of members of disenfranchised minority

42:23

groups have historically not been taken

42:25

as seriously as attacks on members of the majority

42:27

or in power group. But grandmas,

42:30

you start killing grandmas.

42:33

Grandmas not addicted to narcotics, grandmas not involved

42:35

with sex work or some cartel widowed, lonely,

42:37

low income trying to still make it on

42:39

their own grandmas. Next

42:42

to killing small children this kind of murder

42:44

seems to spark the most public outrage. These

42:47

murders outrage jaded media members, jaded law

42:49

enforcement officers and a public jaded by

42:51

so much cartel violence and corruption. You

42:54

just don't fucking kill Nana. You

42:56

don't kill a lot of Nana's year

42:58

after year for many years and not

43:00

generate a lot of public outrage. Susana

43:03

Vargas Cervantes, author of the 2019 book

43:06

The Little Old Lady Killer, the sensationalized

43:08

crimes of Mexico's first female serial killer,

43:11

one of our main sources this week and

43:13

one of the experts used in another main

43:15

source, the 2023 documentary film about Juana on

43:17

Netflix, the Lady of Silence,

43:20

the Mata Villajitas murders stated

43:23

she believed these murders led to Mexico's first serial killer

43:25

task force in her book. She

43:27

wrote, the social values that shaped the conception of

43:30

a victim in Mexico, rest on

43:32

notions of how the family represents the core of

43:34

order and progress that date back to the nation's

43:36

founding. El Mata Villatas

43:39

was killing the grandmothers of the nation. This is

43:41

what was most shocking. Various scholars familiar

43:47

with this case stated in one form or

43:49

another that in Mexico, motherhood is perceived as

43:51

the most important social role for women and

43:53

mothers of the core of Mexican society. And

43:56

a grandmother in a boy like a double mother, the

43:58

most safer. A self-sacrificing mother

44:01

is considered the ideal woman, and doting

44:03

grandmothers hold a very special place in

44:05

traditional Mexican society. According

44:07

to Vargas Cervantes, grandmothers are seen as,

44:10

quote, guardians of the nation and the

44:12

ultimate symbols of purity, chastity, and virtue.

44:15

In 2005, chief prosecutor Bernardo Batiste

44:18

said that the victims were part of a helpless, very

44:20

vulnerable sector of society, which before

44:22

was respected even amongst delinquents. Most

44:25

of the victims lived alone, which created further outrage,

44:28

and Mexico is still very common for grandmothers to live with

44:30

family. Traditionally, and this is not as

44:32

common now as it was during these murders, newly

44:35

married couples lived with the man's parents and

44:38

might wait a while to move out. And the youngest

44:40

son and his wife would live in the house permanently. They

44:42

take care of his elderly parents as

44:45

they became grandparents and great-grandparents, and

44:47

then he would later inherit the house. Elderly

44:50

women who lived alone were pitied. Why

44:52

wasn't their family taking better care of them? Did

44:54

they not have any family? They should be cherished,

44:57

not abandoned. They believed

44:59

that they were lonely and wanted company, so much

45:01

so that they would invite almost anyone inside their

45:03

home, including the lady of silence, who

45:06

then betrayed their kindness and murdered the

45:08

sacred members of such a vulnerable population

45:10

one after another, after

45:12

another, after another. And

45:15

now, our feature presentation.

45:18

For the enjoyment of one and all, please

45:21

refrain from using your telephone during the show.

45:24

One day, we'll be forced to kill you and

45:26

your entire family. Remember,

45:29

please turn off your telephones at this time.

45:32

Enjoy the show. Shrap

45:35

on those phones.

45:39

We're marking down a time

45:41

suck timeline. Hola, de

45:44

llenada, barraza sampero, was

45:49

born December 27, 1957, in Espaso Yucan Hidalgo, a

45:56

town of about 12,000 people, 65 miles north of Mexico City. Her

46:00

mother was Housa Sumpério and her father

46:03

was Trinidad Barraza. Both of

46:05

her parents were fucking garbage and Both

46:07

would end up abandoning abandoning her Dad

46:10

would leave first In February

46:12

of 2008 when he was 80 Trinidad was

46:14

interviewed by Mexico City news outlet El Una

46:17

Rassal He told the interviewer

46:19

that he realized he was one of Barrazas

46:21

father following her arrest Say he last

46:23

saw Juana when he was when she was a newborn and

46:26

didn't hear about her again until she was in the media for

46:28

Being a serial killer. He said he was angry

46:30

with her but not over the killings He

46:32

claimed she knew he was her father and

46:34

knew where he was living but never visited

46:36

him How dare she not seek out the

46:38

parent who completely abandoned her? Why

46:41

would she visit you you dipshit? He didn't do anything to

46:44

help raise her fucking people in their

46:46

delusions Trinidad claimed in this same

46:48

interview that he had fathered around 32

46:51

children with various women hard to

46:53

say he said he didn't remember most of his

46:55

kids That's a number 32

46:57

is you know pretty pretty rough estimate. So

46:59

that's cool. That's cool Trinidad

47:01

explained that in 1945 when he was 18 or 19 he met a teenage

47:03

sex worker Who's

47:06

to some period who would have been only 12 or 13? in

47:11

a nightclub in Pachuca, Hidalgo, I know

47:14

he's only 18 or 19 and that this was

47:16

a long time ago and times were different, but

47:21

He started dating fucking somebody who was 12

47:23

or 13 super

47:26

gross Trinidad said he

47:28

took who said to live with him and that they ended

47:30

up having two daughters together Angela and Juana For

47:33

a few years according to him their marriage was good Right

47:35

his wife played with her dolls fucked him whenever

47:37

he wanted since you know She was a severely

47:39

abused child who didn't understand body autonomy or boundaries

47:41

of any kind He

47:44

didn't say that I added that but it feels true Then

47:46

after a while she you know grew up a bit

47:49

I was almost an adult and now she didn't like

47:51

how often he was away from home for long stretches

47:53

He worked as a long haul truck driver Trinidad

47:56

also mentioned that he had a lot of fun as a

47:58

trucker because he received a lot of attention from

48:00

women. Yeah, I bet he did. You

48:02

don't have 32 or so kids without having

48:04

some fun. What a dipshit. Maybe

48:07

that was why Husta didn't love him being on the road

48:09

for long stretches. Maybe he was sticking a dick in any

48:11

warm hole that would let him in, clearly

48:13

not wearing condoms, and bringing back God knows

48:15

how many venereal disease. Home dirt. Doesn't

48:18

sound like this dude ever saw a fucking bicycle. He didn't

48:20

want to take for a spin, jump off a ramp, maybe

48:22

crash into a ditch. You get

48:24

it. You probably get it. How many of

48:26

those 32-ish kids did he help raise? I'm gonna

48:29

say for sure less than 10. Probably less than 5.

48:32

Trinidad said that he and Husta lived together for about

48:34

four or five years, and that one day when he

48:36

came home Husta was just gone. She'd

48:38

left their daughter Angela with her uncle's, a child

48:41

he apparently made zero effort to take back from

48:43

those uncles, and she took Juana, who was

48:45

only about a few months old, with her. Elgino

48:47

Versal reported that as of 2008, Angela

48:50

was living with her family in

48:52

Hidalgo. Trinidad also said he

48:54

was currently married but had separated from

48:56

his wife, and the old horn dog

48:59

made a point to introduce his new lover in

49:02

the middle of his interview. He's classy. Classy,

49:05

classy guy. A chico con classy.

49:08

Trinidad also complained about his own upbringing in

49:10

the interview as if he how he

49:12

was raised somehow excused how he had raised or not

49:14

raised Juana the serial killer. Trinidad

49:18

said that growing up he knew his mother but not

49:20

his father. He only knew that the man's name was

49:22

Ruiz. He was raised by

49:24

his aunt and her husband Manuel Barraza. He

49:26

said he never received an education and was illiterate.

49:29

Before becoming a truck driver he worked in a factory. He was

49:32

a police officer at one point, saying he worked with

49:34

livestock at one point, then went back to working with

49:36

livestock in 1985. Final question

49:38

he was asked in the El universal interview

49:40

was, what has been the greatest suffering

49:42

you have had? And for the answer he

49:45

said, in life what hurts me the

49:47

most is the love of my parents that

49:49

I didn't have. That's

49:51

a fucking pathetic answer. Feels like a sympathy poi from

49:54

the deadbeat dad of a serial killer. Feels like

49:56

a better answer could have been, I

49:58

don't know, reflecting on irresponsibly fought... father

50:00

and so many children that I then abandon

50:02

is something that haunts me every night. Something

50:04

like that. Sad how the only

50:06

reason he was interviewed was because of his daughter, but then

50:08

he mostly just talked about himself and how good he was

50:10

with women. Regarding the daughter,

50:12

when asked, he said he had not visited Juana in prison

50:15

and had no plans to ever visit her. Now

50:18

on to Juana's mother, Jusa Sumpario.

50:20

We don't know anything about her early childhood. Strongly

50:23

assuming it was a complete fucking nightmare since

50:25

she was working as a child prostitute by the age of 12, if

50:28

not earlier. By the

50:30

time she had two children, she was according to Juana

50:32

later an abusive alcoholic. When Juana was

50:34

between 11 and 13, depending on the source, her

50:37

mom supposedly gave her away to a 26 year

50:40

old man, Jose Lugo, in

50:42

exchange for, she cared to guess

50:45

what her mom traded her daughter for.

50:48

Three beers. Tres cerveces.

50:51

That is so fucked up. Her mom might have even been

50:54

worse than her dad. Clearly Juana came from

50:56

a lot of dysfunction. Neither one of her parents were

50:58

people well adjusted enough to be raising well adjusted children.

51:01

Also, three beers. Not

51:05

only was her mom a terrible mother, but clearly

51:07

not a great business person. Not

51:09

great when it came to bartering. Like

51:11

I feel like you should be able to at

51:13

least get like a dozen beers plus a nice

51:15

dinner, maybe necklace or moped or something for

51:18

a kid. Way more than three beers. Juana's

51:21

new guardian who was not surprisingly a

51:23

depraved pedophile started raping and otherwise sexually

51:25

abusing her immediately and she quickly became

51:27

pregnant. Her first child, who she

51:29

gave birth to when she was just a child herself,

51:32

was a boy she named Jose Enrique

51:34

Lugo Barraza. Juana lived

51:36

with Jose, her abuser for around five years. And

51:39

as she developed more and more feelings of hatred towards him,

51:41

she also began to hate the woman who gave her to

51:43

this pile of shit, her mother. Juana's

51:46

childhood comes across like a like a Steph

51:48

Cox scurvy routine. Remember him? Our

51:50

suck first resident comedian who really didn't ever have

51:52

any jokes. Pretty much only comments on

51:55

the terrible childhoods of serial killers. Guy

51:57

who sounds at least a little bit like Jeff

51:59

Foxworthy. If your

52:01

padre abandoned you as

52:03

a baby after fathering

52:06

you with a teenage prostitute

52:09

and your madre was

52:11

an abusive alcoholic who sold you

52:13

to a pedophile when you were

52:16

11 for tracer vases, you

52:18

might be a killer. I

52:20

got. In an interview with La

52:22

Vanguardia, Juana said she was only

52:25

11 when her mom gave her away, who

52:27

reportedly said, give me some beers and you

52:29

can take my daughter. Can

52:31

you imagine your mom doing that to you? Dad's

52:33

not in the picture and then that happens. Not

52:36

saying that's an excuse to later become a serial killer,

52:38

but it is certainly going to fuck your head up

52:41

and could easily help tilt your life perspective

52:43

towards having very little love and respect for

52:45

just humanity in general. Juana

52:48

also said in this interview, when he abused me, he had

52:50

to tie me to the bed so he could touch me.

52:53

Good gosh, you're just a little kid. Another

52:56

introduction to adulthood. According

52:58

to Juana, Husta died from cirrhosis of the liver caused

53:00

by her alcoholism when Juana was only 18 years old.

53:03

So now at the age of only 18, Juana's mother is dead, father

53:06

is not in her life and she has a

53:08

son fathered by her sexual abuser who's around the age

53:10

of five or six. Miguel

53:12

Antiveros, a Mexican criminologist associated with

53:14

Juana's case, believes Juana was horribly

53:17

traumatized by her nightmare of a

53:19

childhood and ended up targeting

53:21

elderly women because they were the age her mother

53:23

would have been and she associated

53:25

them with her mother. It

53:27

makes sense to me. Juana herself

53:29

said after her arrest, I hated old women because my mom

53:31

mistreated me. She always cursed me. She gave me away to

53:33

an old man and I was abused. As

53:36

an adult, Juana will have three other children with three other men.

53:40

According to the Guardian, Juana's second child was

53:42

a daughter named Emma, named the other children

53:44

not listed in sources. At the

53:46

age of 23, Juana will marry a man named Miguel

53:49

Angel Barrios. She'll

53:51

later leave him because she was abusive. She

53:54

then gets in a relationship with a man named Felix

53:56

Juarez, leaving him when he too was abusive and

53:59

then her last known romantic. partner was Miguel

54:01

Quiroz. If he was abusive

54:03

as well, we do not know about it. I guess he

54:05

probably was. Also, so

54:08

many fucking Miguel's story

54:10

gods trying hard to get me to

54:13

mess up and say, Miguel, not today,

54:15

Satan! Now I'm fluent. There's

54:19

a lot of doing sources that shed a child of peace with each

54:21

of these men. Speaking

54:23

of children, her oldest son, Jose, will sadly be

54:25

murdered in 1998. A group of

54:28

muggers beat him to death with a baseball bat.

54:31

Brutal way to go. The tragedy hit one

54:33

hard. She became extremely depressed after Jose's

54:35

death and within months of his murder, she would

54:37

begin killing old women and stealing from their homes.

54:39

His death, it sure seems, was

54:41

probably the triggering event that led to Juana becoming

54:43

a serial killer. 100% speculating,

54:46

but you know, sounds like it was the last straw.

54:49

Her dad left her. She was a baby or at least didn't

54:51

come and fight for her. When her mom left him, also

54:54

her dad was basically a fucking pedophile.

54:56

Then her mom sells her to a pedophile

54:58

who beats her, ties her up, rapes her,

55:00

impregnates her. Then she has children with at

55:02

least two other men who were abusive. Now

55:04

none of these guys stick around to raise the

55:06

kids. Now her oldest child, a kid she had

55:08

when she was still a kid, beaten

55:11

to death with a bat. After all that,

55:13

maybe she went to this mental place of just fuck everybody.

55:16

Fuck the world. Fuck God. I'm sick of life constantly

55:18

kicking me in the pussy. Old

55:20

women who remind me of mama were the abuse

55:22

I've suffered my whole life first started. Abuse of

55:24

the hands of the woman who taught me I

55:26

was worth nothing. They're going to fucking pay. Something

55:29

like that. Now let's talk

55:31

about something in life that was not awful for

55:34

Juana, something that gave her joy, something she

55:36

loved, was very good at miming.

55:40

I know random. On her early twenties,

55:42

Juana found out that she had a real talent for

55:44

miming. The first one she did is she just

55:46

playing around with her kids trying to make them laugh. Her

55:49

kids were blown away with how realistically she appeared

55:51

to actually be caught outside in a

55:53

windstorm, struggling to move forward, or

55:56

to truly be stuck inside some invisible soundproof box

55:58

unable to figure out. how to open it and

56:01

escape. She was so convincing when

56:03

she pretended to pull herself along by an invisible rope that

56:05

I guess her kids would cry when

56:08

they couldn't find the other end of this supposed rope.

56:11

Cut to about a year later and

56:14

she's working as a street performer. Maiming on

56:16

Mexico City's main drag four street

56:18

performances, Calle Madero, here

56:21

she took her act to the next level, I guess, incorporated

56:23

juggling, developed a distinctive costume,

56:25

think a Luto Libre, Libre version

56:27

of the traditional mime costume. Instead

56:30

of white clown-like face makeup and a black

56:32

French beret, she wore a white Luto

56:34

Libre mask and a clown wig. Instead

56:36

of red suspenders and a black and white

56:38

horizontally striped long sleeve shirt, she

56:40

wore black cape, and

56:44

a white wrestling singlet. Instead of the traditional

56:46

black slacks and black shoes, she wore a

56:48

black wrestling boots that would lace up almost

56:50

to her knee, gave

56:52

herself the name of Ladama del Silencio,

56:54

the lady of silence. Makes

56:56

sense. She was well on

56:58

her way to achieving her dream of becoming Mexico

57:01

City's premier mime, but

57:03

then, more tragedy, she

57:05

developed a stomach condition that would

57:07

cause that dream to come crashing down in a

57:09

very humiliating way. Flats,

57:12

gas, farts, really, really

57:14

bad farts, likely caused by a combination of her

57:16

diet. For a while she lived

57:18

exclusively on soft boiled eggs, slices of highly processed

57:20

American cheese, beans, and sour cream, and

57:23

then there was the anxiety related to stage fright.

57:26

This combination led directly to an endlessly

57:28

raging toot storm, as

57:30

quoted in sources. In short, while she was able

57:32

to keep her mouth shut as a mime, sadly

57:35

the same could not be said for a butthole. Loud,

57:37

raucous, vile smelling farts continually broke

57:39

the fourth wall of her otherwise

57:42

flawless mime performances. It was distracting,

57:44

embarrassing, humiliating. The more she stressed

57:46

out over it all, the gassier

57:48

she became, a vicious cycle, a

57:51

vicious fucking toot storm. She

57:54

was breaking character, and yelling at her

57:56

own audience, shouting stuff like, why are you all pointing

57:58

and laughing at me? That guy

58:01

farted! Him! That guy right over there!

58:03

And the purple shirt and the snakeskin boots! I mean, doesn't

58:05

he look like the kind of guy who would fart like

58:07

that? And then finally,

58:10

she was done. Washed up. Finito.

58:13

Finalezada. Farting for four

58:15

months. Punctuated more by gas and giggles and applause.

58:17

She would run away screaming alone into the cold

58:19

night. It's not me! I'm

58:21

so sick of you bastards farting and blaming me for

58:23

it! We'll see who's laughing

58:26

when I kill your fucking grandma! MUERTA!

58:29

ANASAPOINAS! Juan

58:32

was never a mime. You knew that. I

58:34

really liked that one for a while. Probably too long. I

58:37

just got really into imagining the weirdest build-up leading

58:39

to serial killing. And I

58:42

think her wrestling name of Lady of the Silence may

58:44

have led my brain to think that's a good name for a mime.

58:47

Anyway, as an adult, Juan's biggest

58:49

passion was not miming, it was

58:51

wrestling. Now that

58:53

I pulled you out of the story with my mime bullshit, we

58:55

might as well take our second of two mid-show sponsor

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1:03:09

she was really a wrestler or just a

1:03:11

wannabe. Hang her on. A lot of sources,

1:03:13

most sources describe her as a serial killer, who was

1:03:15

once a professional lucha libre wrestler, but we'll soon see

1:03:17

how that may not be true. Author

1:03:20

Vargas Cerrantes states that lucha libre

1:03:22

is a sport theater

1:03:25

spectacle that has

1:03:27

been enormously popular in Mexico since the 1930s.

1:03:30

This type of wrestling still is especially popular

1:03:32

amongst the working class and foreigners who visit

1:03:34

Mexico City. Vargas Cerrantes also

1:03:36

wrote, the actual fighting that takes place

1:03:39

is a well-choreographed mix of judo, Greco-Roman

1:03:41

wrestling, and boxing. Mexican

1:03:44

wrestlers, just like their US counterparts that

1:03:46

we discussed recently in the Iron Claw

1:03:48

episode, put on spectacular

1:03:50

crowd-pleasing choreographed performances for their audiences.

1:03:52

There's good guys. There's bad guys,

1:03:55

aka faces and heels, aka technicals

1:03:57

and ruddos. There's dramatic

1:03:59

storylines, right? rivalries, over-the-top promotions,

1:04:02

Mexican women only first allowed to

1:04:04

participate in performative wrestling in the 1950s. First

1:04:08

women's championship was won in 1955, but then

1:04:10

shortly after that it was banned in Mexico

1:04:12

City. Excuse me, they only

1:04:14

began to be allowed again to have wrestling matches there three

1:04:16

decades later in 1986. It

1:04:19

wanted to be believed at some point in the late

1:04:21

1980s she began to wrestle under the stage name of

1:04:23

La Dama del Silencio, right, the Lady of Silence. She

1:04:26

wrestled as a ruda, a bad girl. She

1:04:29

also mentioned she didn't fight with the same level

1:04:31

of technical skill as technica wrestlers did. She

1:04:33

wore a bright pink suit with silver accents on

1:04:35

the legs and shoulders, pink and silver boots, pink

1:04:38

and silver butterfly mask. Local

1:04:40

papers published a photo of her wearing this outfit

1:04:42

with a world women's wrestling championship belt draped over

1:04:44

her. She looks imposing in

1:04:46

the photo, she looks legit, right,

1:04:48

standing tall and proud at 5'9 with

1:04:51

an athletic muscular physique. A

1:04:53

stranger body was described as masculine in many

1:04:55

Mexican sources and various

1:04:57

Mexican criminologists will cite her masculine

1:04:59

physique along with some supposedly masculine

1:05:01

facial features as proof of quote

1:05:04

innate criminality. Of course

1:05:06

she killed those women. Look at her broad shoulders. Look at

1:05:08

her, look at how narrow her eyes are, how thick

1:05:10

and muscular her thighs. Look

1:05:13

at how thin her lips are and her

1:05:15

furrowed brow, that jawline. Of course she killed

1:05:18

with a masculine face and body. I'm

1:05:21

not even really exaggerating. They later

1:05:23

really did act like her physical characteristics somehow predisposed

1:05:25

her to being a killer when they were

1:05:27

trying to figure out why she did what she did. Juana

1:05:30

told a investigator she chose a ring name, La Dama

1:05:33

del Silencio, because she is reserved

1:05:35

and quiet. But was she

1:05:37

ever actually in the ring? Or

1:05:39

was she just a wrestling fan who wanted people to think that she

1:05:41

was a wrestler? Producers for

1:05:44

the 2023 Netflix documentary, The Lady of

1:05:46

Silence, the Mata Villa

1:05:48

Hetis, excuse me, Mata Villa

1:05:50

Hetis. That Hetis part, excuse me,

1:05:52

murders, interviewed some female wrestlers based

1:05:55

in Mexico City who had known Huana. A

1:05:57

woman who used the stage name La Chola said We

1:06:00

were sort of friends when it came to party. We

1:06:02

partied together all the time. Like, are you

1:06:04

dating that guy? Then I'll date this one. We were wild.

1:06:08

Megala, another female wrestler, said that

1:06:10

Wanna always checked on her to see if she needed

1:06:12

anything. She trusted Wanna, told her about her personal problems.

1:06:15

She was shocked when she learned that Wanna had been

1:06:17

arrested for multiple murders because, he said, Wanna never seemed

1:06:19

like an angry, aggressive person. She seemed like a sweetheart.

1:06:22

Megala did think it was strange, though, that Wanna often

1:06:25

treated them to expensive lunches. La

1:06:27

Chola also noticed that Wanna carried a lot of cash with her.

1:06:30

They wondered where she got that money. Also,

1:06:32

both thought it was a bit odd that she liked to

1:06:34

dye her hair almost every month, and

1:06:37

that she moved often from one apartment to the next. But

1:06:39

they never connected any of her behavior to a string

1:06:41

of murders of elderly women. Wanna

1:06:43

said that at some point before she was arrested, she had

1:06:45

to quit wrestling because of a back injury. But

1:06:48

prior to her retirement, she could lift 220 pounds to

1:06:51

the gym. Never said exactly how she looked at

1:06:53

that weight. Deadlift, I'm guessing, unless you

1:06:55

just pulled that out of her ass. Regarding,

1:06:58

again, whether or not she was actually a

1:07:00

professional wrestler, La Chola said, I

1:07:02

think she always dreamed of becoming a wrestler, but

1:07:04

she was never a wrestler. She never set foot in

1:07:06

a ring. I asked several wrestlers, did you

1:07:09

ever fight against the lady of silence? No,

1:07:11

never. La Chola

1:07:14

also added that anyone can get custom wrestling gear

1:07:16

made, and anyone can buy a championship belt. Very

1:07:19

true. Years ago, in

1:07:21

awesome times, that fan sent me a championship wrestling

1:07:23

belt, and it looks fucking amazing. And

1:07:25

I certainly never set foot in a ring to win it. I

1:07:28

just had to make a bunch of terrible Chikatilo jokes and references.

1:07:31

Well, it's a big deal. I like to wrestle. That's

1:07:33

all it took to get myself a championship belt. And

1:07:36

La Chola also stated that Wanna liked the environment

1:07:38

of professional wrestling, liked to be around wrestling, talk

1:07:40

about wrestling, but not a wrestler. Renato

1:07:43

Salas Heredia, the deputy prosecutor

1:07:45

for the Mexico City Department of Justice at the time of

1:07:47

Wanna's arrest, did seem to think that she was a wrestler,

1:07:50

though. Stated in his interview, I

1:07:52

think she unloaded a large part of her frustrations

1:07:54

that came from that awful early childhood through wrestling.

1:07:57

However, Renato, after watching that doc, Seems

1:08:00

kind of like a dipshit. Seems

1:08:02

like a dude who has a lot of strong

1:08:04

opinions about she doesn't know anything about. A lot

1:08:07

of other people interviewed in the doc consistently

1:08:09

disagreed with a lot of his assessments. I'm

1:08:12

going to say she was either not a wrestler at all

1:08:14

or maybe she fucked around in a few small town

1:08:16

matches and then never took it further than that. Certainly

1:08:19

was never a popular wrestler. The

1:08:21

New York Times reported that Wanna worked as a popcorn vendor

1:08:24

at wrestling matches. That sounds more

1:08:26

possible. Comedically, I hope

1:08:28

that she never did more than that. That cracks me up to think of

1:08:30

like the wrestling equivalent of some dude, you

1:08:34

know, maybe some guy who sells like hot

1:08:36

dogs at Dodger Stadium and

1:08:38

then tells people that they're a professional baseball player or less than think

1:08:40

that. What do you

1:08:42

do? Oh, I, well, I'm

1:08:44

a Dodger. I'm

1:08:46

with the Dodgers. Oh, you play

1:08:48

professional baseball? Oh, yeah. Yeah, like

1:08:50

I said, I'm a Dodger. What

1:08:53

position do you play? I'd love to come watch the

1:08:55

game. Well, I, uh, they

1:08:58

use me. I'm all over the place. I'm

1:09:00

a bit of a hot dog. I'm a bit

1:09:02

of a hot dog Dodger. Fans love me. An article

1:09:06

from the Guardian stated that Wanna frequently

1:09:08

attended wrestling matches, organized some local wrestling

1:09:10

events and maybe occasionally, possibly

1:09:13

when she was younger might have fought in the ring, but

1:09:15

they don't cite anyone who have wrestled against Wanna or

1:09:18

even someone who ever witnessed her wrestling. I

1:09:20

certainly can't find any videos or photos online of her ever in

1:09:22

a ring, just a pic of her

1:09:24

dressed up as a wrestler. So

1:09:27

while we don't know if she was ever a luchadora or not, we

1:09:29

do know that at the time of her

1:09:31

arrest, Wanna Barraza was living in the, uh, Xtapaluca

1:09:34

suburb of Mexico City in a ground floor

1:09:36

apartment with her two youngest kids, 13

1:09:38

year old boy and 11 year old girl. She

1:09:40

was working cleaning, cleaning people's homes, also

1:09:43

did some sort of vague street vending and

1:09:46

engaged in petty theft. She seems

1:09:48

to have always bounced from job to job. Wanna's

1:09:50

lawyer will of course deny she was either a murder

1:09:52

or a thief, uh, stating that she was a hard

1:09:54

worker, that she was quote, proud to say she has

1:09:57

kept things going on her own. She is proud of

1:09:59

being both a father. and a mother to her

1:10:01

children. Her neighbors will

1:10:03

say her kids were friendly, and that Wanna was

1:10:05

quiet and someone who kept herself pleasant in passing.

1:10:08

They never suspected she was a serial killer. Now

1:10:11

that we've introduced Wanna Barraza, the next section of the

1:10:13

timeline will cover the investigation and some of her known

1:10:15

victims. I would list out all the victims,

1:10:17

but very little is known about almost any of

1:10:20

them. And sadly, she

1:10:22

killed so many people the same way, it gets

1:10:24

pretty redundant, pretty repetitive. I

1:10:27

wanna present the most info as possible, but also

1:10:29

keep this narrative compelling. So here we go. First

1:10:32

known victim, Maria Amparo Gonzalez, killed

1:10:34

in May of 1998, identified as a victim in

1:10:37

the Matavíajitas case in August of

1:10:40

2004, when another

1:10:42

woman was strangled in Istapalapa, a borough

1:10:44

of Mexico City. Investigators

1:10:46

noticed that Maria had been killed just a few streets away,

1:10:48

determined she was most likely killed by the same person. Sources

1:10:51

don't list Maria's age, I'm gonna guess she was around 80, since

1:10:54

the average age of the 40 victims whose

1:10:56

ages we do know, ages listed

1:10:59

in sources, is 78.175. The

1:11:02

youngest victim listed is 59, oldest

1:11:05

is 92, actually two 92 year olds. Most

1:11:09

victims were in their late 70s or early 80s. She

1:11:12

really went after people she could easily physically dominate.

1:11:15

So typical of a serial killer, right, preying on people

1:11:17

weaker than themselves. After

1:11:20

what was possibly Wanna's

1:11:22

first murder, she seems to take a big break from killing them,

1:11:25

at least a big break in known murders that fit her

1:11:27

MO, maybe she scared herself, you know, a

1:11:29

big cooling off period after the first murder, not uncommon at

1:11:31

all when it comes to serial killers. Maybe

1:11:34

she felt a ton of remorse over what she did. She

1:11:36

certainly never said. She isn't believed

1:11:38

to have struck again for over four years, not

1:11:40

until November 25th, 2002,

1:11:43

when 64 year old Maria de

1:11:45

la Luz Gonzalez Anaya

1:11:48

was strangled in her home in the

1:11:50

Cuy Yuhacan borough of Mexico City. She

1:11:53

has 16 boroughs in this massive city, each

1:11:56

with their own mayor, council and local government powers.

1:11:59

A little over three months. later the lady of silence strikes again

1:12:01

this time she strangled 84 year old Guillermina

1:12:04

Leon March 2nd 2003 in

1:12:07

the Cajotémoc neighborhood of Mexico

1:12:09

City. So many neighborhoods

1:12:12

in Mexico City, almost 2000.

1:12:14

Fucking wow. On

1:12:16

July 25th 86 year old Maria Guadalupe

1:12:18

Aguilar Cortina is strangled in Mexico City

1:12:21

neighborhood not mentioned in sources. Six

1:12:24

months later 80 year old Alicia Cota strangled on

1:12:27

September 11th 2003 in the Benito Juarez

1:12:29

borough of Mexico City. Patricia

1:12:32

Payan, a criminologist who was interviewed

1:12:34

for the recent Netflix documentary recalled

1:12:36

looking into the September 2003

1:12:38

murder. Alicia was found with a cord

1:12:40

wrapped around her neck then just a week

1:12:42

later another elderly woman 82 year old

1:12:44

Maria Guadalupe Gonzalez Juan Belz is

1:12:47

fixated due to strangulation. Some seriously

1:12:49

long fucking names in this suck. Per

1:12:52

traditional Spanish naming customs Mexicans

1:12:54

have two last names. First surname

1:12:57

is the first surname of the father

1:13:00

and the second surname is the first surname of

1:13:02

the mother. Also don't have a middle

1:13:04

name but often have more than one first name. Most

1:13:07

people use only the first first name

1:13:09

and first last name in daily life

1:13:11

such as Juan Abaraza whose

1:13:14

full legal name is

1:13:16

Guaracita Cororabaraza Torazquez Antonio

1:13:18

Banderas fucking nailed it.

1:13:21

Master class hot damn I'm good at

1:13:23

Spanish. Auevo, a viva Mexico. Uh

1:13:26

no her full legal

1:13:28

name is Juana Deonara Baraza Sampero. Deonara

1:13:31

her second first name Baraza her

1:13:33

father's surname Sampero her mother's surname.

1:13:36

Anyway it's so fun for me to

1:13:38

fucking yell that stupid shit. Anyway Patricia

1:13:40

Payan the criminologist noticed that the type

1:13:43

of knot used to strangle Alicia Cota

1:13:45

is similar to the uh the ligature

1:13:47

used in Maria Guadalupe Aguilar Cortina's crime

1:13:49

scene. Two weeks

1:13:51

later Juan is no longer taking big positive between murders

1:13:53

now right she's all in on killing whatever older women

1:13:55

she can get away with killing. Excuse

1:13:58

me another elderly woman. Murdered under

1:14:00

the same circumstances a month after that

1:14:02

yet another victim is strangled in the same way in Koi

1:14:06

you can borrow again 85

1:14:10

year old Natalia Torres Castro Patricia

1:14:13

pion said that by mythology as murder.

1:14:16

She was convinced that there was an active serial killer

1:14:18

in Mexico City killing abuelas But

1:14:20

no one took her belief seriously not yet. She

1:14:22

was told by a superior quote. No don't

1:14:24

watch so many TV shows you're exaggerating So

1:14:28

why didn't others believe these early murders all

1:14:30

committed in the same fashion same victim type

1:14:33

were not indicative of a serial killer deputy

1:14:36

prosecutor Renato Salas Heredia Explained that back in

1:14:38

2003 most investigators were not even willing to

1:14:40

consider the possibility of a serial killer

1:14:42

because again They truly believed

1:14:44

serial killers did not exist in Mexico

1:14:48

They were believed to be essentially the result of some

1:14:50

sort of cultural sickness that Mexico did not suffer from

1:14:53

We're not even denied that Goyo Cardenas that second

1:14:55

Mexican Jack's ripper serial killer We went over

1:14:57

was a serial killer. He said he was

1:14:59

a spree killer Like that would

1:15:01

make some some kind of difference like that would make what he did

1:15:03

less depraved Prosecutor Bernardo

1:15:06

Batiste said in an interview. We slowly realized that this

1:15:08

was a serial killer Maybe I denied it at one

1:15:10

point, but it must have been at the beginning We

1:15:13

also didn't want to spark an outrage or appear

1:15:15

in sensationalist headlines. We tried to be as discreet

1:15:17

as possible He

1:15:19

also said we were ready because we had a

1:15:21

great team of specialists and experts in crime scene

1:15:24

reconstruction crime scene preservation deputy

1:15:26

prosecutor Renato Salas contradicted this notion though saying

1:15:28

of course not who would be ready So

1:15:31

we got ready along the way and what happened

1:15:33

the victim's family members cleaned the crime scene washed

1:15:35

picked every picked up everything And when

1:15:37

you got there, you'd say why did you clean everything? There's

1:15:40

no way we'll find fingerprints We won't be able

1:15:42

to document with photos. They'd say no, we're holding

1:15:44

a vigil for grandma Apparently

1:15:47

this happened a lot How frustrating

1:15:49

the families of the elderly women who were blatantly

1:15:51

strangled kept cleaning up the crime scene? Before

1:15:54

investigators had a chance to examine it. Just just not thinking

1:15:56

about all the evidence. They were destroying I guess They

1:15:59

want investigators to watch walk into a filthy house, nah, it

1:16:01

would have been so embarrassed. Hearing

1:16:03

that really shocked me. I'm just so used to hearing about

1:16:05

crime scenes. I was watching a lot of crime docs, true

1:16:07

crime docs and TV shows like Cops or

1:16:10

fictionalized crime procedural shows like Law and

1:16:12

Order long before podcasts existed. And

1:16:15

it just seemed so obvious that if you

1:16:17

say walked into your grandma's house and

1:16:20

you found her murdered body, you

1:16:22

would not start fucking cleaning. But

1:16:24

that was not culturally the case here. By

1:16:27

the fall of 2003, a group of investigators did start

1:16:29

to suspect that one person was possibly responsible for some

1:16:32

or all of these murders though. The initial

1:16:34

profile of the suspect was that of a

1:16:36

large, strong man. Male, tall,

1:16:38

between 45 and 48, broad

1:16:41

back, big hands, strong and burly,

1:16:44

short hair, dresses as a nurse,

1:16:46

may have been a nurse. The suspect's strategy is to pretend

1:16:48

to be someone who has showed up to help these women,

1:16:52

acting as if they work for the government as

1:16:54

part of a helpful social welfare program to make

1:16:56

sure seniors get the benefits they need. Other

1:16:59

than the sex being the wrong gender, that is pretty accurate. Juan

1:17:01

was 45 at that time, very

1:17:04

tall for a Mexican woman,

1:17:06

actually a Mexican of any sex. Currently

1:17:08

the average height of a Mexican man is 5'6", and

1:17:12

the average height for a Mexican woman is 3'4". And

1:17:15

Juana was 5'9". At the

1:17:17

time of the murders, André Manuel

1:17:20

Lopez Obrador, who

1:17:22

is Mexico's current president, was

1:17:25

Mexico City's head of government. Think

1:17:27

mayor of all the boroughs, and he was promoting a new

1:17:29

policy of assisting the elderly. To implement

1:17:31

this policy, a lot of different social workers were visiting

1:17:33

the elderly at their homes and giving them

1:17:35

cards that would allow them to access their new benefits. It

1:17:38

was common knowledge that these cards were being delivered,

1:17:40

so if you were elderly, low income, you

1:17:42

were hoping to get one of these cards, and then someone

1:17:44

shows up saying that they are there to give you that

1:17:46

card, would not be weird to invite

1:17:48

them into your home. Back

1:17:51

to the profile for a second. No two witnesses had

1:17:53

the same exact description of who they thought was the killer,

1:17:55

but a lot of people did give a

1:17:57

similar description that included the suspect dressed as a nurse. So

1:18:00

now investigators started looking into nurses other

1:18:02

healthcare workers, which was unfortunate since

1:18:04

Wanna not a healthcare worker If

1:18:07

only they would have looked into Heidi skilled minds Suffering

1:18:11

from terrible flatulence who wanted to be

1:18:13

masked wrestlers Then they

1:18:15

would caught her, you know immediately also

1:18:19

The average height of a Mexican woman is five foot two not

1:18:22

three foot four How hung

1:18:24

up for some for some of you on that perceived

1:18:26

fuckup in your head

1:18:28

We like does he really think that

1:18:30

the average height of a

1:18:33

full-grown? Mexican woman is three

1:18:35

foot four That would mean

1:18:37

that a lot of Mexican women are three

1:18:39

feet or under has he never seen any

1:18:41

Mexican women Or maybe you were

1:18:43

like, is that right? huh, I mean

1:18:45

I've seen a fair amount of Mexican women and you

1:18:47

know, they do seem short but three four I Don't

1:18:51

know. I mean, I guess it's not like I was

1:18:53

asking for their higher, you know Ask him to hold still so I

1:18:55

could you know measure him or anything. But maybe

1:18:58

Now back to our murder October 9

1:19:00

2003 87 year old Maria

1:19:02

Guadalupe de la Vega is strangled again

1:19:05

in the Benito Juarez, Burrow She's

1:19:07

also tied up in the process of being tied up

1:19:09

both her arms are fractured Yeah

1:19:12

78 year old Maria del Carmen Munoz

1:19:15

cote del galvan Strangled

1:19:17

to stethoscope October 24th in

1:19:19

the again the koyukan,

1:19:21

Burrow 81

1:19:24

year old Gloria And Adina

1:19:26

Rizzo strangled October 28 2003 neighborhood not

1:19:28

listed Gloria's

1:19:31

daughter Veronica Rizzo did an interview for the Netflix

1:19:33

doc where she talked about her relationship with her

1:19:35

mom same It

1:19:38

was kind of a bummer to see her go out like

1:19:40

that, you know, I mean it's sad for sure But

1:19:42

honestly, I wasn't like I

1:19:44

wasn't like that torn off about it. I mean she was 81. Let's

1:19:46

be real It's not she was some 20 year old with

1:19:49

her whole life ahead of him or even a 30 or 40 year

1:19:51

old All in all she had a

1:19:53

great run. So why why be sad? I mean sure I could

1:19:55

focus on her being strangled at the age of 81, but

1:19:58

I would rather focus on her living wonderful

1:20:00

81 years and 234 days when

1:20:02

she wasn't strangled even one time.

1:20:05

And honestly, what's worse? Falling, breaking

1:20:07

a hip, being unable to walk, dying

1:20:09

slowly over like six months, or

1:20:12

having some lady who seemed pretty nice, strangle

1:20:14

you for like, I don't know, a minute, two minute tops. We

1:20:17

should all be so lucky. No,

1:20:19

she didn't say that. Es huesta,

1:20:22

hodido. No, Veronica, who

1:20:24

went by Vero said, I was her

1:20:26

only daughter. Just imagine. I

1:20:28

was always everything, right? I was her everything.

1:20:30

She was demanding, but very warm. She really

1:20:32

spoiled me. She gave me everything,

1:20:34

right? Her love mainly. I was very

1:20:36

happy to have her as my mom. She was the

1:20:39

most indulgent grandmother that you can imagine. She

1:20:41

took them out and travel with them everywhere. A week

1:20:44

before an event that changed my life, something amazing and magical

1:20:46

happened. It was as if my mom could tell what was

1:20:48

going to happen, because she gave me even

1:20:50

more love than she ever had before. At

1:20:52

around one on one 30, the phone rang and I saw there was

1:20:55

my mom's number. This is in the morning.

1:20:57

One on one 30. I froze. Didn't want

1:20:59

to pick up, you know, Roman. My partner said, enter the

1:21:01

phone. Why aren't you answering? I grabbed the phone. Yes,

1:21:03

mom, what's up? How are you? And then

1:21:05

I heard the voice of my nephew who lived there. Vero,

1:21:08

your mom died. Someone has strangled

1:21:10

her with the cable. Vero said

1:21:12

that the family asked the police to go into the house with

1:21:14

them to collect strands of hair and garbage. She found a glass

1:21:17

in the living room that had been recently used, put it in

1:21:19

the bag for the police. This glass

1:21:21

will become a key piece of evidence. It has

1:21:23

a full fingerprint from the killer on it.

1:21:26

Thank God this family did not clean up the fucking crime scene right away.

1:21:30

When she went down to the police station to speak with

1:21:32

detectives, Vero said she saw her mother's name on a big

1:21:34

whiteboard, had a number next to it. She

1:21:36

asked an officer what that was about and she was told, because

1:21:38

this could be the work of a serial killer. At

1:21:41

the time of her death, her mother was applying for

1:21:43

her senior benefits ID card. Vero's cousin said that an

1:21:45

alleged social worker stopped by said she'd apply on Gloria's

1:21:48

behalf, but she didn't even

1:21:50

ask for her cousin's ID. Very strange.

1:21:53

Vero's cousin would work with a sketch artist to come up with a

1:21:55

sketch of what the killer might look like. Months

1:21:57

later, November 25th, the police publicly announced They

1:22:00

are in fact looking for a

1:22:02

serial killer, unprecedented. First time

1:22:04

in Mexico's history such an announcement has ever been made. They

1:22:07

describe the killer's MO saying that he, yes he,

1:22:10

targets elderly women by addressing as a nurse

1:22:12

from the government assistance program, CIVALE. Back

1:22:16

in 2001, André Manuel Lopez Obrador

1:22:18

had created a public aid program

1:22:20

called CIVALE which gave citizens over

1:22:23

75, around 70 US dollars a month,

1:22:25

free public transportation and healthcare. Investigators

1:22:29

now consulted homicide detectives in France. They

1:22:31

will end up hiring some of them to teach a course

1:22:34

to their investigators on how to catch a serial killer. Based

1:22:37

on what they learned, the Mexico City Department of

1:22:39

Justice created a task force called Parquez

1:22:41

y Hardinas. Parks

1:22:44

and Gardens. The name comes from

1:22:46

the fact that investigators at the time believed the

1:22:48

killer found his victims in local parks and gardens

1:22:50

since many of the murders occurred near public parks.

1:22:54

The task force ended up producing 64 different

1:22:56

sketches of the killer. They will distribute many

1:22:58

of these sketches via 70,000 pamphlets

1:23:00

and posters placed in government offices and public

1:23:02

transport. Also organized surveillance

1:23:04

by federal police who did patrols in parks and

1:23:07

gardens. I feel like

1:23:09

64 different sketches is at least 60 too many. I

1:23:12

mean I guess maybe too much info is better than you know

1:23:14

not enough, but if you're suspect might look like one of 64

1:23:17

different kinds of faces. What is

1:23:19

the point in even releasing any of those sketches? I

1:23:22

mean you clearly have no fucking clue what

1:23:24

the killer looks like. The following is

1:23:26

a translation from one of the posters task

1:23:29

force investigators use to help the killer. Attention.

1:23:32

How can we prevent not falling

1:23:35

for deception? There are

1:23:37

people who can pass for promoters of different

1:23:39

services, nursing, therapies, phone supervisors, cable,

1:23:41

water, electric energy, gas and others. You

1:23:44

can be approached in stores or commercial centers, in

1:23:46

the street, the entrance of your house, of your

1:23:48

building or housing unit. If you

1:23:50

feel like you're in danger, ask for help from a person you

1:23:52

know and have the most confidence in. Recommendations.

1:23:55

Don't give information to strangers. Don't

1:23:58

let a stranger enter your home. Don't

1:24:00

mention that you live alone or are alone. Most

1:24:03

importantly, don't trust mimes dressed

1:24:05

as mass wrestlers. We repeat, don't trust

1:24:07

stinky mimes dressed as wrestlers. Maybe I

1:24:09

didn't say that last one, but

1:24:12

the rest were real. And so was this last one. If

1:24:15

you hire any services from personal caretakers, assure

1:24:18

yourself that it is professional. Ask

1:24:20

for employment verification or identification. If you have

1:24:22

any doubt, ask for information from the Department of Justice of

1:24:25

the federal district. Based

1:24:28

on crime scene evidence, the police determined that the

1:24:30

killer strangled victims from behind with either their own

1:24:32

clothing or other items from their homes. The

1:24:35

bodies were typically found in a chair or in their bed. After

1:24:38

the victim was dead, the suspect then stole a

1:24:40

small item from their home, often religious items like

1:24:42

images of saints, crucifixes, and Bibles. Tokens,

1:24:44

right? Trophies. Killer's

1:24:46

primary motivation was clearly not financial. Sometimes money was

1:24:49

found to be missing sure, but not always. Killer

1:24:52

was clearly driven primarily by anger towards hatred

1:24:54

of elderly women. Also,

1:24:56

remember those 64 different sketches? All

1:24:59

sketches of dudes at that point were

1:25:01

faces believed to belong to a dude. When

1:25:04

the task force began searching for El

1:25:06

Mata Villajipas, they still strongly assumed

1:25:08

that Killer was male. A white heterosexual

1:25:10

male to be very specific. Why?

1:25:13

Because most of Killer's from other countries like the US,

1:25:16

white heterosexual males. Very

1:25:19

funny to me to do that in a country where most people

1:25:21

are not white. All right, everybody, listen

1:25:23

up. Whoever's killing our

1:25:26

nenas, most likely not someone from Mexico.

1:25:28

No fucking way. We don't do sick

1:25:30

shit like that. We can't. Not

1:25:32

the grandmas. It's impossible. Imposible.

1:25:35

I've literally never met, now once in my

1:25:37

life, a single Mexican who hates grandmothers. Can

1:25:39

you imagine? Imposible. Nida con ya. Pollo

1:25:42

reneo. The patros for the crocodile. I told you

1:25:44

about that.

1:25:46

These crimes, in my opinion,

1:25:48

have America written all over them. So

1:25:51

many sick fucking white dudes up

1:25:53

there. Dementes gringos. And

1:25:55

they do this kind of shit all the time. Bundy, Gacy, Kemper, the

1:25:58

Green River of Killer. every

1:26:00

dalmar and now whoever's doing this, keep

1:26:03

your eyes peeled for a creepy fucking white dude.

1:26:06

This is the kind of shit those sick fucks live

1:26:08

for. Dios mio. Dios

1:26:10

taco chipotle. When

1:26:13

the Department of Justice announced there was a

1:26:15

serial killer, Deputy Prosecutor Renato Salas Heredia told

1:26:17

the public, more than 90%

1:26:19

of serial killers are men with average

1:26:21

or superior intelligence, who have suffered physical,

1:26:23

psychological or sexual abuse, who

1:26:26

come from unstable or disintegrated families, and

1:26:28

who since childhood have shown tendencies

1:26:30

towards fetishism or sadomasochism. Chief

1:26:34

prosecutor Renato Patiz described the killer as having

1:26:36

a brilliant mind, very astute and

1:26:38

cautious. Criminologist Martin

1:26:40

Barone said that most serial killers

1:26:43

are maniacs of order, fetishists

1:26:45

with perfect control of themselves, high

1:26:47

IQ, stable job, childhood emotional disorders,

1:26:50

married, and with kids. I

1:26:53

feel like Barone should have been fired immediately after

1:26:56

making that assessment. Gary

1:26:58

Ridgway, Jeffrey Dalmar, high IQs? Nope.

1:27:02

Kept themselves in perfect control, not even close. Dalmar kept

1:27:05

a rotting head in a pair of severed dick and

1:27:07

balls in his work locker for a while. That's

1:27:10

not a guy in perfect control of himself. Gary

1:27:12

Ridgway had an IQ of 82. Not

1:27:15

a genius, just a dumb asshole able to perform

1:27:17

a repetitive task well. And

1:27:19

his repetitive task was picking up sex workers, you

1:27:21

know, people you can easily get to come into your vehicle, overpowering

1:27:24

them through brute force, then dumping

1:27:26

their bodies in the woods. He was a

1:27:28

fucking dumb bully, dumb monster, good

1:27:31

at keeping secrets, not a

1:27:33

mastermind. Stable job,

1:27:35

married with kids. Think about the recent Riverside Killer,

1:27:37

William Suffolk, Mr. Tit Chili Cook-Off winner himself. He

1:27:39

had a lot of different jobs, a lot of

1:27:41

different relationships. The Trailside Killer, David Carpenter, could not

1:27:43

keep a job or a relationship, and I could

1:27:45

go on and on and on.

1:27:48

Senator Vargas Cervantes wrote descriptions by

1:27:50

police and Baron of El Mataviejitas

1:27:53

reveal more about their beliefs about

1:27:56

serial killers, characteristics, beliefs imported from the

1:27:58

United States than about any. fact-based

1:28:00

understanding of their manhunt

1:28:02

focus. Bingo! Bingo! A

1:28:04

perfect assessment. Hail

1:28:06

Vargas Arrantes. However,

1:28:09

authorities did believe that the killer had a deep resentment towards

1:28:12

a woman in his life because of childhood abuse. Substitute

1:28:15

his for her. You know, that's correct. Interestingly,

1:28:17

at least two witness accounts described the suspect as

1:28:19

definitely a woman with one witness describing

1:28:22

the suspect as tall. 1.7 meters.

1:28:24

Robust woman with black hair. Another

1:28:26

saying, I believe it was a woman. Excuse me.

1:28:29

She was blonde, short haired, used glasses,

1:28:32

had a bag. Both of

1:28:34

these early witness statements were pretty accurate other than Wanna

1:28:36

being taller than that. She was closer to 1.8 meters

1:28:39

tall. 5'9". Both statements

1:28:41

ignored. If you look online, Wanna's

1:28:44

height is listed anywhere from 5'5 to 5'9".

1:28:46

So many varying reports. I trust

1:28:48

5'9", followed by reports

1:28:50

of her being 5'7". It seems like she was at least

1:28:52

5'7", at most 5'9". First

1:28:55

official sketches made public in December of 2003,

1:28:57

a month after the police declared that the

1:28:59

killer was a male homicidal dressed as a

1:29:01

female nurse. Sketches distributed

1:29:03

throughout the city, search efforts concentrated

1:29:05

in middle to lower middle class

1:29:08

neighborhoods. The police also

1:29:10

in December publicly stated that the killer was a

1:29:12

tres vestes, which translates into

1:29:14

transvestite. Author Vargas

1:29:16

Arrantes defines this as a gender sex

1:29:18

identity used for subjects who, having

1:29:21

been assigned the male sex at birth, have

1:29:23

chosen to identify themselves within a range

1:29:25

of versions of femininity. In

1:29:28

Mexico at that time, tres vestes

1:29:30

were associated with being lower class or

1:29:32

being sex workers. And

1:29:35

yes, I know the term transvestite is considered

1:29:37

offensive. Here, its use I feel is important

1:29:39

because it shows where the investigators heads were

1:29:41

at with their investigation. They were

1:29:43

just so sure it was a guy that

1:29:46

when descriptions came out of the suspect dressed like a

1:29:48

woman, looking like a woman, they

1:29:50

still did not think the killer could possibly be a

1:29:52

woman. The suspect had to be a man dressed

1:29:55

as a woman or maybe a man who's transitioning into

1:29:57

being a woman. Now let's move on to

1:29:59

2000. Big year for

1:30:01

the Mata Villajitas case. Three

1:30:03

high-profile arrests regarding this case occur this year.

1:30:06

January 9, 2004, a

1:30:09

female nurse named Matilde Sanchez

1:30:11

Gallegos arrested in

1:30:13

question on suspicion of being la Mata

1:30:15

Villajitas. The city's

1:30:17

metro newspaper had just published one of the first

1:30:19

composite sketches of La Mata Villajitas,

1:30:21

fucking nails that type, on the front page.

1:30:24

And a pair of officers who purchased the paper were looking

1:30:26

at it and saw a woman at a bank who matched the

1:30:28

sketch. So they arrested her. Matilde

1:30:30

was put in a room with a one-way mirror. Known

1:30:33

witnesses were brought into the station to look at her. None

1:30:35

of them identified her as a suspect. She

1:30:38

was released 15 hours after being picked up. No

1:30:40

charges were filed. Prosecutor Bernardo

1:30:42

Batiste announced that her prints did

1:30:44

not match prints found in a few of the crime

1:30:46

scenes and issued a public apology. And

1:30:48

since they were looking primarily for a dude, I'm

1:30:50

guessing most investigators were not surprised that she was

1:30:52

released and the arresting officers who picked her up

1:30:55

probably had their balls busted for arresting a woman. April

1:30:59

1, 2004, 39-year-old Araceli Vasquez

1:31:01

Garcia, another woman, arrested, connected

1:31:04

to 10 home invasion robberies

1:31:06

and one homicide. Funny

1:31:09

that most investigators still convince killers of a dude, but

1:31:11

the first two people they arrest are women. This

1:31:14

poor woman. Holy shit, does she

1:31:16

get scapegoated hard. Some

1:31:19

police thought for a moment that she

1:31:21

was la Mata Villajitas because she

1:31:23

pretended to be a nurse to enter elderly women's homes

1:31:25

and steal from them. Four

1:31:27

elderly people who were tricked with the

1:31:30

promise of financial aid guards identified Araceli. She's

1:31:32

also linked to different cases based on fingerprint evidence, but she

1:31:34

never tried to hurt those four people.

1:31:37

The police found a white coat, wig, ID card from

1:31:39

the National Institute of Old Age inside her home. Veronica

1:31:42

Rizzo, daughter of victim Gloria, and

1:31:45

Adina Rizzo-Ramirez said that Araceli had a

1:31:47

watch in her possession that looked pretty

1:31:49

similar to her mom's missing watch. It

1:31:52

was reported that Araceli's fingerprints matched the print on

1:31:54

the glass found at Gloria's crime scene, but that was

1:31:57

not true. The

1:31:59

fingerprint belonged to one of the victims. and

1:32:01

Vasquez never charged with that crime. Araceli,

1:32:03

still in prison right now, ever

1:32:07

since her arrest, she's denied being a killer, but

1:32:09

admitted to several robberies. She's insisted that

1:32:11

the police had the wrong woman, but

1:32:13

was charged with the murder of a woman

1:32:15

named Margarita Aceves Quezada, who was killed

1:32:17

January 5th, 2004. She was

1:32:20

sentenced to 23 years, nine months for murder. 75-year-old

1:32:22

Margarita had been strangled with a cable from

1:32:24

a radio alarm clock. Her crime scene looks exactly like

1:32:26

the crime scenes of so many other lady of silenced

1:32:29

murders. On the day

1:32:31

of her murder, Margarita's neighbor, Hamilda, was outside

1:32:33

sunbathing when she spotted a woman dressed as

1:32:35

a doctor, described her as being

1:32:37

short, light brown skin, straight yellow hair.

1:32:40

Doctor asked if she knew any retired people

1:32:42

who lived alone because their pension would be

1:32:44

increased. She pointed the doctor in the

1:32:47

direction of Margarita's home. Three more witnesses

1:32:49

saw the woman dressed as a doctor, her asking

1:32:51

Margarita for her ID. Margarita agreed

1:32:53

to let the woman into her apartment. Neighbors

1:32:55

were surprised to see that Margarita's windows were still open

1:32:57

at night, and there was no lights on

1:33:00

the outside, a neighbor's husband entered the apartment with his set of

1:33:02

keys, found her dead body. On

1:33:04

January 6th, four eyewitnesses agreed on the

1:33:06

physical description of the doctor. Margarita's neighbors

1:33:08

were called in to see if they

1:33:10

recognized Araceli Vasquez, not

1:33:12

identified. None of the eyewitnesses

1:33:14

thought that Araceli was the killer. One

1:33:17

witness said the suspect was actually much taller,

1:33:20

like Juan's height. During

1:33:22

the search of Araceli's home, investigators found the

1:33:24

watch that was identified by Margarita's niece per

1:33:26

the prosecutor's office. This plus

1:33:28

other items found inside her home would constitute

1:33:30

the main evidence used against her. Araceli

1:33:33

claims these items were planted in

1:33:35

her home by the team of

1:33:37

prosecutor Guillermo Zayes. In

1:33:40

support of Vasquez's claims of innocence was

1:33:42

the fact that the murders continued and

1:33:44

increased in number after her arrest, and

1:33:46

also Guillermo Zayes corrupt as fuck, more

1:33:49

on him in a bit. Another

1:33:51

suspect, a man this time named Jorge

1:33:54

Mario Tabla Silva, arrested September 12th, 2004.

1:33:58

Suspected, again, of being because

1:34:02

he dressed as if he were a nurse for the

1:34:04

Sivale program and would wear women's clothing in a wig.

1:34:07

He maybe suffocated one woman with a

1:34:09

pair of tights or maybe was just really mentally ill

1:34:11

and they scapegoated him as well. The

1:34:14

second suspect in the murders of these women who

1:34:16

most experts think had nothing to do with the killings,

1:34:18

or I guess the third suspect, I guess that one real

1:34:21

brief, will be tossed quietly into

1:34:23

a prison and left there to rot. Tabas

1:34:26

was charged with two murders. The prosecutor's office suspected him of

1:34:28

eight more. One of his

1:34:31

alleged victims, 66-year-old Maria Eugenia

1:34:33

Guzman Nuez, he promised

1:34:35

to give her financial support, one of those financial

1:34:37

support cards. Also

1:34:40

linked to the May 1998 murder of Maria

1:34:42

Amparo Gonzales Celsida, the

1:34:44

first Mata Vyajita's case from May of

1:34:46

1998. In

1:34:48

a journal left behind of the crime scene, he wrote, I

1:34:50

know I am the Apostle Juan, the

1:34:52

ghost of whom my mother told me about

1:34:54

through a spiritualist session. Okay.

1:34:57

Also wrote that his murders acts

1:35:00

were committed by an entity called

1:35:02

El Malino, the evil. Once

1:35:04

again, investigators thought they had captured the serial killer, but

1:35:06

there was no conclusive evidence to prove his guilt. Tabas

1:35:09

later will insist when he's not in the middle of

1:35:12

a fucking psychotic episode that he was innocent and that

1:35:14

his prints were not found at any of the crime

1:35:16

scenes. He's right about that, his prints

1:35:18

not found at the crime scenes. In fact, in the official

1:35:20

report on one of the murders he was convicted of, the

1:35:22

prints of that crime scene matched Juan Abaraza, not

1:35:25

Tabas. Still was mentally ill, probably

1:35:28

been reading about the murders in the papers or something. Nevertheless,

1:35:30

Tabas will be sentenced to 61 years in prison

1:35:32

for two murders he very likely did not commit.

1:35:35

He died in prison, professed his innocence until the

1:35:37

end. Very sad. Just

1:35:41

like in the case of Araceli Vasquez, the

1:35:43

murders will continue after Tabas is arrested

1:35:47

and increasing frequency. Before we

1:35:49

get to the 2005 murders that followed these arrests, let's first look at what

1:35:51

Juana was up to in 2004. October

1:35:54

24th, a 70-year-old woman named

1:35:56

Maria Dolores Martinez Biena Bena

1:35:58

Vírez was strangled apartment

1:36:00

again with a stethoscope. Twelfth little

1:36:02

old lady murder of just that year. Witness

1:36:05

Judith Lasquez said that Maria often left her door open

1:36:07

when she got home from work in the afternoon and

1:36:09

then closed the door when she was ready for bed. A

1:36:12

female suspect who looked, I don't know, exactly

1:36:14

like Juan Abaraza sat with their doorman

1:36:17

and chatted with the neighbors, asking which of

1:36:19

the building's residents lived alone. When she learned

1:36:21

that Maria Dolores lived alone, she befriended her. About

1:36:23

a month later, Maria Dolores was found strangled

1:36:25

in her apartment with a phone cord. The

1:36:28

body of another victim was found 16 days after the discovery

1:36:31

of the murder of Maria

1:36:33

Dolores, 83-year-old Margarita Arradondo Rodriguez.

1:36:36

She'd also been strangled. Margarita's

1:36:38

granddaughter, Alejandra Alde, said

1:36:41

that her grandmother had recently suffered a fall inside

1:36:43

her apartment and could no longer leave to run

1:36:45

errands. She asked her to move in with

1:36:47

her, but Margarita refused, so Alejandra moved in

1:36:50

with her instead. Alejandra left

1:36:52

for work early one morning when her grandma was still

1:36:54

sleeping. She always called Margarita around three

1:36:56

or four in the afternoon to check on her, which this

1:36:58

day, grandma didn't answer. Margarita's

1:37:01

neighbors, Patricia and Omar, were having lunch

1:37:03

around noon that day with Omar's parents.

1:37:06

His parents wanted to close the window while they

1:37:08

ate, and when Omar stood up to do that,

1:37:10

he saw someone rife into Margarita's drawers. The

1:37:13

two stared at each other. Omar later recalled.

1:37:15

The look in her eye was harsh, cold,

1:37:17

disturbing. Later that day, not

1:37:19

sure why Omar didn't call the police when he saw a stranger

1:37:22

rife into his neighbor's drawers, but I guess she was just like

1:37:24

a nurse. Alejandra came home from work.

1:37:26

She'd forgotten her keys, so she rang the doorbells so her

1:37:28

grandma could let, you know, come in. Or,

1:37:31

excuse me, she'd forgotten her keys, so she rang the doorbell

1:37:33

so her grandma could let her in. But

1:37:35

then Margarita, of course, did not come to the door. All

1:37:38

the lights were off inside the apartment, which was not

1:37:40

normal. Alejandra went to a neighbor for help. Neighbor

1:37:43

came over, shouted Margarita's name, still no one

1:37:45

answered. Now extremely worried, they decided to break

1:37:47

a window to get inside. After

1:37:49

she entered her and her grandma's house, Alejandra

1:37:51

saw the back bedroom had been ransacked. Then she

1:37:53

heard two people call out, she's here. Neighbors

1:37:56

discovered Margarita's body. She'd been beaten. Seemed

1:37:59

as if she had made a effort to fight back and then

1:38:01

she was strangled. Investigators found

1:38:03

fingerprints on jewelry boxes, found blood on one

1:38:05

of the living room cushions. Jewels

1:38:08

and money were stolen from the home. Margarita kept jewelry

1:38:10

hidden amongst her clothes, but it seemed like the killer

1:38:12

knew exactly where to look or

1:38:14

had just spent a lot of time in the home going through

1:38:16

all of Margarita's things. Now

1:38:18

let's move on to 2005.

1:38:20

In July of 2005, after eight other

1:38:23

murders earlier that year, the killer

1:38:25

left behind a full fingerprint inside her ninth known

1:38:27

victim of 2005's home, whose

1:38:29

name is not listed in either Mexican or US

1:38:31

sources. The victim's killer pretended to

1:38:33

be a paramedic, asked to see a copy of an

1:38:35

x-ray the victim kept in her home,

1:38:38

and then she ended up leaving a perfect print on

1:38:40

that x-ray. The victim's son just

1:38:42

happened to drop by, saw someone fleeing the scene. The

1:38:44

print matched partial prints from five other cases. August

1:38:47

25, 2005, the police distribute two new

1:38:49

sketches of the suspect around Mexico City. Vargas

1:38:52

Cernantes pointed out in her book that the

1:38:54

text under the sketches used masculine plural pronouns,

1:38:57

implying the killer was a man, even though

1:38:59

the police had now already arrested a woman on suspicion

1:39:01

of, well, two women on being suspicion of being the

1:39:03

killer, and more witness descriptions of a woman

1:39:05

kept pouring in. Many on the task

1:39:07

force still could not accept that a woman could be doing this. By

1:39:11

early October, 46 people had

1:39:13

been fingerprinted and photographed based on their resemblance

1:39:15

to the composite sketches. Over 300

1:39:18

people had been interviewed after witness reports reported

1:39:21

that they resembled the sketches. Now the

1:39:23

police presented a physical and psychological profile

1:39:25

to the public. The physical

1:39:27

profile described the killer as a man

1:39:30

dressed as a woman or a robust

1:39:32

woman dressed in white, height

1:39:34

between 1.7 and 1.75 meters,

1:39:38

robust complexion, light brown oval

1:39:40

face, wide cheeks, blonde hair,

1:39:42

delineated eyebrows, approximately 45 years

1:39:44

old, between 1.7 and

1:39:46

1.75 meters, translated between

1:39:48

5.5 and 5.7. According

1:39:52

to the psychological profile, the

1:39:54

suspect was a man with homosexual preferences,

1:39:57

victim of childhood physical abuse, lived

1:39:59

surrounded by He could have had

1:40:01

a grandmother or lived

1:40:04

with an elderly person, has resentment

1:40:06

toward that feminine figure, and possesses great

1:40:08