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390 - The Florida Vampire Murders

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Together with a wider bumper step, it's easier

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to 7.2 kilowatts of power to charge a

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bed full of electric dirt bikes or run

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an entire job site worth of tools. I'm

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still driving my 2016 F-150 truck and 90,000 miles in. As

0:34

long as I keep it clean, it honestly still looks brand

0:37

new. I've taken it down snow-covered, forest-service

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roads, taken it out camping, put a ton

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of miles on it on the freeway, had

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five adults in the cabin for long trips,

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and it's been great everywhere. Super dependable. I

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still love the way it looks, nice and

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rugged design, but with a super comfortable interior.

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And I'm still very happy with the quality

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sound system and heated seats. And since I

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bought my 2016 F-150 truck, the

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list of standard amenities that make a truck

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feel like a luxury vehicle have only grown.

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Tough This Smart can only be called F-150. Find

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your local Ford dealer at ford.com.

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Pro-axis tailgate available starting spring 2024.

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See owner's manual for important operating

1:15

instructions. What was your

1:17

favorite immersive world when you were a teenager? Was

1:20

it the world of muggles, wizards, and more of Harry Potter?

1:22

Lord of the Rings, Middle Earth? Westeros from

1:25

Game of Thrones? The continent from

1:27

The Witcher? That Star Wars galaxy that's far,

1:29

far away? Or maybe the world of

1:31

ancient vampires finally coming out of the shadows and meeting

1:33

the rest of us lowly meat sacks in true blood.

1:36

I would say favorite book, game, movie, or TV

1:38

show, but to many of us, these collections of

1:41

stories were, and maybe still are, so much more

1:43

than that. They're not just pieces

1:45

of disposable media that we watch and quickly

1:47

forget. They're immersive and escapist

1:49

worlds that we can enter and

1:51

live in through our imaginative minds' eyes. They're

1:54

places where we mentally spent so much time

1:56

in that in some ways, these worlds felt

1:58

every bit as real. as our own.

2:01

Maybe still do. When we concentrated

2:03

enough, we could really picture ourselves living there.

2:05

Maybe we were superheroes, throwing fireballs, flying

2:07

over the city, saving it from evil,

2:10

scores of women below, dreaming for the chance

2:12

to be chosen by us. What an ego

2:14

stroke. As kids, sure, we

2:16

knew that the world around us was real, that

2:19

our parents could actually legally tell us what to do,

2:22

that if we walked out of class because our teacher

2:24

was a douchebag, there's going to be consequences. If

2:27

we said the wrong words to the wrong kid at school,

2:29

we would still very likely get our asses kicked. But

2:32

despite having to live in this world and play by its

2:34

rules, many of us still held out

2:36

hope that maybe, just maybe, there

2:38

was a chance that we could figure out how to bend

2:40

the laws of this world and go live in another. And

2:43

for some of us, that itty bitty chance was enough to

2:45

kind of believe our friends when they

2:47

said they, I don't know, knew someone who could

2:49

raise the dead with some kind of necromancy spell

2:51

or that they had a cousin who, no shit,

2:53

swear to God, really was a vampire, sleeps in

2:56

a coffin and everything. For some

2:58

of us, probably a lot of us listening to

3:00

this show, there was a time when it truly

3:02

was tricky to always be able to tell where

3:04

the line between imagination, wishful thinking, and just being

3:06

completely full of shit was drawn. But

3:08

then for damn near all of us, that

3:10

inability to tell the difference between what is

3:12

definitely real and what is nothing more

3:14

than fantasy, it fades as

3:17

we grow into our later teens. Sure,

3:19

we can still get emotionally lost in the

3:21

nostalgia of loving a series of books or

3:24

movies, but we're not walking around literally claiming

3:26

to be a witch, a wizard, a high

3:28

elf, or a vampire. Not

3:30

only claiming that, but truly believing our own

3:32

claim. But for a small

3:34

handful of us, the desire to truly be a

3:36

part of our favorite fantasy world does not fade.

3:39

Instead, it deepens. And some of us

3:41

start to detach a bit from reality and not in a

3:43

fun, harmless way. This is what seems

3:46

to have happened with Rod Farrell. Rod

3:48

was introduced to the world of vampires as a

3:50

kid, and he liked it, loved it, really

3:53

loved it. He truly wanted to become

3:55

a vampire. And it seems as if

3:57

he actually started to really think he was a

3:59

vampire. as did some of his friends. The

4:02

world of vampire lore offered him

4:04

an escape from his extremely troubled

4:06

home life. His dour religious grandparents,

4:08

possibly a predatory grandfather, his rebellious,

4:10

also possibly predatory mother. Instead

4:13

of feeling like shit or like a nobody, a

4:15

poor kid living in a small Kentucky town where

4:17

almost no one seemed to understand him, Rod

4:19

could instead feel like an

4:21

ancient, immortal vampire, someone both

4:24

powerful and feared. Inspired

4:26

largely by the role-playing vampire of

4:28

the masquerade, Rod developed a

4:30

character for himself named Visago, a 500-ish year

4:33

old European aristocat who

4:36

decided to reincarnate in the

4:38

body of an American teenage boy. And it

4:41

is aristocrat. I don't know why that world has set itself

4:43

far to me when I've said it a

4:45

thousand times in my life. Anyway, Rod wasn't the

4:47

only teen in Murray, Kentucky to go full vampire.

4:49

He was just the only one to go full evil

4:52

vampire, the only one willing to

4:54

coldly kill to keep his vampiric adventure going. The

4:57

wild story of Rod Farrell and the

4:59

vampire murders, right now on another

5:01

true crime, not quite cult, but cult-ish,

5:04

super weird, what the hell was going on

5:07

in small town Kentucky in the 90s? So

5:09

glad this is not my life edition of

5:11

Time Suck. This is Michael McDonald and you're

5:13

listening to Time Suck. Happy

5:29

Monday and welcome to the Cult of the

5:31

Curious. I'm Dan Kelman, Sir Sucksabit, fourth

5:34

dimensional astral traveler, dream interpreter, poor

5:37

man's Rod Surly, and you are

5:39

listening to Time Suck. I should have

5:41

added a guy who suddenly struggles with aristocrat. I

6:00

had one last night where I was the happiest I have

6:02

ever been by far. I was

6:04

married to a good, wholesome, very

6:06

submissive woman who lets me ride her

6:08

bicycle whenever and however I want, who's not

6:10

a level four Teddy Bart-infested demon zombie.

6:14

JK. I love Lindsay's stashed a

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little butt. She is recovering very well from

6:18

her recent hip procedure for anyone curious and concerned, by

6:20

the way. Got a lot of messages. Thank you for

6:22

that. Very quick

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double announcement before today's super weird show.

6:27

The time has come to prepare for the summer camp next year.

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I know it's early, but we want to give

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you time to plan ahead. Tickets for Wet Hot

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Love will be

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Pacific Time, first come, first serve. A

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last year, but when they're gone, they're gone. Get

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badmagicproductions.com, our new one-stop shop website

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links to tickets. We're

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very excited to do this again and

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just looking forward to it after how much fun this past

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one was, really the past two. And

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also don't forget to come and spend on the scholarship

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over to Scholarship America for the application.

7:20

And now let's go full vampire. After you

7:22

make sure you're not listening to this

7:24

episode anywhere near sunlight, unless you want to

7:26

be burned alive, keep an

7:28

eye out for wooden crosses, steaks, I

7:30

guess rather, garlic, makes

7:32

really, really crosses of any

7:34

material, I think. Definitely

7:37

wooden steaks, definitely garlics. Make

7:39

sure you're familiar, is standing guard

7:41

before you put on your noise cancellation headphones.

7:44

And now enjoy, you beautiful, bloodsucking

7:46

son of a bitch. In

7:55

a lot of ways, Today's Suck feels like a strange

7:57

corollary to our episode about Dungeons and Dragons

7:59

while back. Except while the

8:01

fears of getting lost in D&D or AD&D

8:03

were unfounded, some of today's

8:05

characters did get dangerously lost

8:07

in a role-playing game. Remember

8:10

James Dallas Egbert III? He

8:13

was that child prodigy in TechWiz who enrolled at Michigan

8:15

State University at the age of 16. He

8:18

also had epilepsy, was struggling with

8:21

his own homosexuality and parental pressure,

8:24

which led to depression, which led to his

8:26

disappearance from campus in 1979, still only 16 years old. After

8:30

leaving behind a suicide note. Oh,

8:32

and he played a little bit of Dungeons and Dragons. And

8:34

D&D was initially, at least in the

8:36

media, blamed almost entirely for his disappearance.

8:39

His parents hired William Deer, a

8:42

private investigator and complete and utter nut job,

8:45

to help determine their son's whereabouts when police couldn't find

8:47

him. While examining the board with

8:49

a pattern of pushpins found in James' dorm room,

8:52

Deer saw between the lines. He realized that

8:54

the arrangement of the pins suggested, at least

8:56

to him, no one else, the shape of

8:58

various campus buildings, including the power plants. Deer

9:01

was a master of connecting dots. Dots

9:04

that were actually largely never there, but he connected

9:06

them all the same. And

9:08

Deer was then able to get permission to search the

9:10

steam tunnels under the school based on the power plant

9:12

design. Deer also disclosed some

9:14

of his multiple theories regarding why James disappeared

9:16

to the media, but decided to

9:19

keep some of the information private, like the

9:21

best information. Notably, anything related to specific personal

9:23

problems, such as James' depression and

9:26

other less sensational factors. However,

9:28

he did discuss the notion that Egbert might

9:30

have entered the tunnels, probably did, almost certainly

9:33

did enter them while playing a live action

9:35

version of D&D. Also called

9:37

Larping, live action role playing, where

9:40

players act out scenarios on location instead of sitting

9:42

around a table. Deer also

9:44

advanced the idea that some players might, on

9:46

occasion, actually believe they are in

9:48

fact their character. And

9:50

that Egbert was almost certainly wandering around somewhere

9:52

in that kind of state, you know, thinking he was

9:54

on some kind of fucking Dragon Quest, looking for some

9:57

monsters to slay or some shit. 4%

10:00

speculation built upon more speculation and

10:03

the press ran wild with it. The national

10:05

media, taken with the novelty of

10:07

the very thin connection between the

10:09

game and egg-verse disappearance, pushed all

10:11

sorts of imaginative, sensationalist musings presented

10:13

as facts, bullshit into articles, newscasts,

10:15

and more. For many

10:17

listening, watching and reading, a link

10:20

between Dungeons and Dragons, occult behavior,

10:22

mind control, general insanity,

10:24

and more was a done fucking deal. As

10:27

theory got so much interest, Deer ended up writing a

10:29

book about it all, called the Dungeon Master,

10:32

the Disappearance of James Dallas Egg-verse III. But

10:35

what really happened to James? Well, he didn't get lost in

10:37

the world of D&D. His disappearance didn't

10:39

have jack shit to do with D&D. He just wanted

10:42

to escape his life. After

10:44

hiding in Michigan for a few days, he took a bus to New Orleans,

10:46

attempted suicide with cyanide, lived,

10:49

made it to Morgan City, Louisiana, worked

10:51

on an oil field just a few days before he

10:53

was found by William Deer. Who

10:56

knew damn well that James taking off didn't have

10:58

shit to do with an RPG, but he still

11:00

went ahead and wrote his book anyway. Deer

11:03

dropped him off with James' uncle, Marvin Gross.

11:05

In September of 1979, he enrolled in Wright

11:07

State University in Dayton, Ohio, near his parents'

11:09

home, studying computer science, working for

11:12

his dad at an eyeglass store. And

11:14

then on August 11, 1980, James,

11:16

now 17 years old, sadly, tragically,

11:19

shot himself in the head and died at the

11:21

hospital. And his death had nothing

11:23

to do with Dungeons and Dragons. But

11:25

you wouldn't know that, based on sensationalist

11:27

reporting that continued after his death. Dungeons

11:31

and Dragons will not likely lead you to getting so lost

11:33

in a fantasy world that you lose your mind and do

11:35

something like take your own life. Yet, however,

11:38

very likely may lead you into spending

11:40

a lot of time staying up late

11:42

with other imaginative folks, painting little pewter

11:44

figurines, adorbs, carrying battle axes, and sexy

11:46

elven enchantresses, sexual fantasies where you beat

11:48

off to thoughts of fucking some sexy

11:50

sorcerer, spending too much money on books,

11:53

boards, dice, that kind of shit. The

11:55

story of James Dallas Egbert III is not a good one

11:58

when it comes to trying to depict fantasy roles.

12:00

playing games as dangerous escapism. Today's

12:03

story, however, is a good story that

12:05

does illustrate how some people can, in

12:07

fact, get dangerously lost in immersive

12:09

fantasy worlds. Shows how some

12:12

teens, many if not all with terrible home lives,

12:14

did get lost in a fantasy that just

12:16

felt so much better than their real

12:18

crappy ass lives. In our

12:20

world, they were poor, picked

12:22

on, abused, marginalized,

12:24

dismissed, teased for

12:27

being weird, losers, overall

12:29

fuck-ups. So they chose

12:31

to live in a new world, the world of

12:33

darkness, the world of vampire, the masquerade, where

12:36

they were powerful vampires who either believed they were immortal

12:38

and could do shit like conjure spirits and see and

12:40

speak with the dead for starters, or they

12:42

believed that certain other members of their coven could really

12:44

do these things. They were part

12:47

of something incredibly special. They were brave enough

12:49

to leave the norms and limitations of this

12:51

world behind and step into a dark world

12:53

of power and pleasure forbidden to the Judeo-Christian

12:55

culture they'd been born into. Today's

12:57

true story illustrates that in rare instances,

13:01

kids can get way too fucking in

13:03

to a role-playing game, such

13:05

as the one about vampires, right? Where they

13:07

can start thinking that they are a vampire. They can

13:09

start believing that they can control people and turn others

13:11

into vampires. They can convince other kids that they do

13:13

have dark powers. And all of

13:15

this can, in fact, lead to murder, at

13:18

least partially. Other factors are definitely

13:20

also at play for sure in today's story. Rod

13:22

Farrell might have killed anyway. But

13:25

maybe not. Rod Farrell was just 16

13:27

when he committed a double homicide. And maybe he

13:29

did so because he didn't feel like he was 16. Maybe

13:32

he did so in part because he felt ancient.

13:34

Immortal. He was no longer

13:36

the weird goth kid who was never picked first for

13:38

dodgeball or any other game in gym class. He

13:41

was no longer the kid that most other kids really

13:43

hoped, prayed. They did not get stuck with when they

13:45

had to work on a group project. Thin,

13:48

with a pale complexion, long hair that hung over

13:50

his face, prone to saying weird creepy shit about

13:52

being a vampire. Rod was definitely

13:54

an outcast. In this world. But

13:57

in his mind, and with a few members of his

13:59

coven, He was God. Rod

14:01

had been carefully constructing a background for himself since

14:04

he was at a young age, possibly as

14:06

young as five when his mom, Sondra, introduced

14:09

him to scary movies, horror

14:11

fiction, New Age spirituality, and

14:13

the RPG Vampire The Masquerade.

14:16

A little bit later for that game, actually,

14:18

but introduced him to the world of vampire

14:21

lore, for sure, before the game. So

14:23

let's talk about this game a bit before setting the

14:25

stage for today's story, and then diving into

14:27

the details in the timeline. Vampire

14:30

The Masquerade is a tabletop role-playing game

14:32

created by Mark Rinehagen, originally released in

14:35

1991 by White Wolf Publishing.

14:38

Quickly became a top 10 seller for RPGs for that

14:40

year, five years later, in a 1996 reader poll

14:42

by Arcane Magazine to

14:44

determine the 50 most popular role-playing games

14:46

of all time. Vampire The

14:48

Masquerade was ranked number six. Editor

14:51

Paul Pettengale commented, heh

14:55

heh, random words, it's just gonna be a struggle today, that's cool. Vampire

14:58

has always proved the most popular of the world

15:00

of darkness games, a testament both to

15:02

the continuing appeal of the vampire itself and

15:05

to the structure and design of the game. Like

15:07

all of the storyteller range, it's not an easy

15:09

game to get right, and it relies heavily on

15:11

both the players and the referee putting a lot

15:13

of effort and imagination into their roles. With

15:16

a good group, though, it could be

15:18

an immensely interesting and thought-provoking game and

15:20

one of the most effective horror RPGs

15:22

around. Despite a tendency to take

15:24

itself a little seriously, Vampire The

15:26

Masquerade has a great deal to offer

15:28

the more mature and serious gamer. This

15:31

game is set in a fictionalized, gothic punk version

15:33

of the modern world where players

15:36

assume the role of vampires, who are

15:38

referred to as nerds, I

15:40

mean as kindred, and deal

15:42

with their night-to-night struggles against their own beastial

15:44

natures, vampire hunters and each other. Ryan

15:47

Hagan felt that hunting vampires as a game premise

15:50

would get boring, so he came up

15:52

with the idea of a game where the players were the

15:54

vampires instead of hunting them. And for

15:56

the most part, these vampires, they're not good people,

15:59

although there is my In the game, and if

16:01

you butcher people all willy-nilly, you will not be rewarded

16:03

and you can lose control of your character permanently, you

16:06

also need to feed on human blood to keep your character going.

16:09

And many of the 13 different vampire clans in the game are

16:12

decidedly of an evil, let's destroy humanity

16:14

kind of nature. This

16:16

game came out long before Twilight, a more

16:18

recent depiction of vampires being pretty decent, upstanding

16:21

undead folk, living righteously,

16:23

only eating animals or whatever. Back

16:25

around when Rod was starting to play this game, the

16:28

most popular piece of vampire media in pop culture was

16:31

1994's Interview with a Vampire, that boxed-office

16:33

smash starring Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt,

16:36

Barry Young, Kirsten Dunst, Christian

16:38

Slater, and Antonio Banderas,

16:40

Maserati Bugatti, Vasachis, Fagari Antonio

16:43

Banderas. This movie was

16:45

based on best-selling author Anne Rice's popular 1976 novel of

16:47

the same name.

16:51

It was Anne's first of 13 books, collectively known

16:53

as The Vampire Chronicles, revolving around

16:55

the fictional character of L'Esteat de

16:57

l'Encourt, 18th century

16:59

French nobleman played by Tom Cruise, who became

17:02

an immortal vampire that ends up in New

17:04

Orleans. Prior to the

17:06

movie and Rice's books, 1992's Bram

17:08

Stoker's Dracula, always want to

17:10

say Stroker, always want to say Bram Stroker, every

17:14

time, starring Gary

17:16

Oldman, Anthony Hopkins, Winona Ryder,

17:19

Keanu, Nat Kanu, Reeves, another

17:21

massive box office of empiric success, based

17:24

on Bram Stoker's 1897

17:26

novel Dracula, in this

17:29

movie, the historical subject Vlad Dracula,

17:32

former suck subject Vlad the Impaler, dude

17:35

who loved a human shish kebab more than any other man in

17:37

history, who becomes a vampire in

17:39

1462 after defeating the Ottoman Empire in

17:41

a military campaign, only to return

17:43

to his castle and find his wife dead. Enraged

17:46

at God, after being told her soul

17:48

was now damned to hell for committing

17:50

suicide, he desecrates a chapel, renounces God,

17:53

and becomes a monster. fucking

18:00

great for being close to 500 years old and

18:03

where he is also an evil dude

18:05

naughty boy guy who views

18:07

human life as being very very disposable. A couple

18:10

years before that movie, 1987 is the

18:12

Lost Boys. Made being a vampire

18:14

look pretty damn cool. I thought it made vampires look cool

18:16

when I was a kid. Most of

18:18

the vampires in that movie, they didn't give a shit about taking

18:20

human life. Rest in peace,

18:22

Corey Hain by the way. Also rest

18:25

in peace, Lost Boys franchise. Should

18:27

have never made a sequel. Definitely should

18:29

have never turned it into a trilogy. Anyway

18:32

two years before the first and only Good Lost Boys

18:34

film, it was Fright Night. Second highest grossing

18:36

horror film of 1985 surpassed only by a Nightmare

18:39

on Elm Street 2, Freddy's Revenge. Another

18:41

film based on the premise of the evil

18:43

murderous vampire. There was also the 1975 Stephen

18:45

King bestseller, Salem's

18:48

Lot. Book about a little

18:50

town in Maine where the residents are quickly

18:52

becoming vampires thanks to the ancient bloodsucker Kurt

18:54

Barlow attacking resident after resident and

18:56

I could go on and on. Only

18:59

want to share one more. Arguably the

19:01

most popular and enduring vampire

19:03

character of the past 50 times years.

19:08

Oh

19:16

greetings, it is I the Count

19:18

and it's time to answer that

19:20

fascinating question. What is

19:22

the Sesame Street number of the day?

19:24

I don't know. Let's

19:27

count the bats and

19:29

find out. Oh there's

19:31

one. One bat. Okay. Oh

19:34

there's another one. Two bats. Yeah.

19:36

Three. Three fabulous flyers.

19:39

Ah ah ah. Terrifying.

19:43

Yes I did play that exact clip I believe in some form

19:46

during another episode in the past few years. Just can't

19:48

remember which one. And no

19:50

the count of course did not help lure Rod into the

19:52

dark side. Pretty funny if that was true.

19:55

Getting Rod was familiar with most if not all of

19:57

this media and for the most part outside of occasional

19:59

exception. like Anne Rice's Louis de

20:02

Pointe du Lac, played by

20:04

Brad Pitt. These vampires were again dark

20:06

and powerful antagonists of the human race. Humans

20:10

feared and despised them just like a lot

20:12

of Rod's peers feared and despised him. He

20:14

saw himself in these vampires, right? He

20:17

despised them back, just like most of the vampires from the vampire lore of the

20:19

80s and 90s did. And along

20:21

comes Vampire, the masquerade, a

20:23

game where you could become, at least in its world of darkness setting,

20:27

one of these powerful evil vampires. Like Rod

20:29

was ready. Hell yeah! Vampire,

20:31

the masquerade, was one of the first pieces

20:33

of vampire media to both combine vampires with

20:35

a steampunk, futuristic world and

20:38

to develop tropes about individual vampires into

20:40

a highly complex social system. Ryan

20:43

Hagen recast the biblical Cain as

20:45

the father of all vampires, taking inspiration

20:47

from the education he'd received as a child

20:49

of a Lutheran minister. He wanted

20:51

the central concept to be something simple but powerful, which

20:54

he replicated all the way down to the cover photo, a

20:56

rose on a green marble table, the

20:58

game overall not simple, incredibly

21:01

immersive and complex, focusing on

21:03

plots, intrigue and story as opposed to the

21:05

more straightforward dungeon scenarios of A, D and

21:07

D, those

21:10

type of role-playing games when VTM came out. While

21:13

the RPG industry in general has been trending towards,

21:16

or had been trending towards a more narrative approach

21:18

for quite some time, Vampire was one of the

21:20

first games of its kind to really center on

21:22

it. The vampires were given an extensive

21:24

list of broad supernatural powers called disciplines,

21:27

which included superior strength, speed and toughness,

21:30

as well as other powers such as

21:32

mystic senses, mind control and blood magic.

21:35

The 13 clans added late in the development

21:37

process provided a much needed character class system

21:40

based on vampiric archetypes. But

21:43

if you couldn't afford all the game

21:45

material about clans, you could also, and

21:47

still also, can just be a basic

21:49

generic vampire. And you can use,

21:52

you know, the bit of money that you've saved to

21:54

buy a generic vampire action doll if you really want

21:56

to get into it, from the very

21:58

fine folks who make the action he-

22:00

Hero People Figures. Oh hell yeah. New

22:04

from the makers of Fighting Man,

22:06

Atomic Man, Flying Guy, Warrior Woman,

22:08

Attack Cat, Prophet Jeffrey and Kami

22:10

Guru, it's Vampire Boy

22:12

and Vampire Girl. Do

22:15

you wanna be a little naughty

22:17

vampire? Suckin'

22:19

blood and causing trouble, sunlight, hide

22:22

on the double. Do you

22:24

wanna be a little naughty vampire? A

22:28

monster with scary teeth, a spooky

22:30

bat hanging by its feet. Do

22:32

you wanna be a little naughty

22:34

vampire? A real

22:36

scary girl or boy, better buy

22:38

this vampire toy. Complete your

22:40

action hero people set today. Fighting

22:43

Man, Flying Guy, Warrior Woman, Attack

22:45

Cat, Atomic Man, Prophet Jeffrey, Kami

22:47

Guru, and now Vampire Boy and

22:49

Vampire Girl. Karate Lady

22:51

and Spy Person are probably not coming soon

22:53

anymore, since sales are way, way

22:55

down, and our corporate masters,

22:57

Bear Evil Incorporated, will probably soon dismantle

23:00

us and sell us off in pieces.

23:05

God, fuckin' sounds like you better buy that Vampire Boy

23:07

and Vampire Girl doll pretty quick. Tough

23:10

times for the action hero people set people.

23:13

Anyway, don't even worry about it if you don't understand

23:15

where that guy came from. It has nothing to do

23:17

with this topic. Vampire

23:21

the Masked Great character class clan system, and

23:23

all the ways you can customize your character within its clan,

23:26

prove very popular with players, especially big groups of

23:28

teens who wanted to both feel like they were

23:30

members of a secret club, but also feel like

23:33

they were unique individuals within that secret

23:35

club. But there was another

23:37

draw for teenagers as well, the concept

23:39

of the beast. VTM

23:42

made use of a lot of existing

23:44

vampiric folklore, like immortality, thirst for blood,

23:46

undead status, pale skin, heightened

23:49

intelligence, sophistication, but they

23:51

also introduced something new, the beast. The

23:54

beast is a savage carnal predatory drive

23:57

within all vampires. That

24:00

fucker? Mostly beast at this

24:02

point. One innocent

24:05

child I killed. Ha ha

24:07

ha ha. Two innocent child

24:09

I killed. Ha ha ha.

24:11

But for real. The

24:14

beast takes only to satisfy its base urge to

24:16

survive. Anger, mortal threats, hunger, or

24:18

bloodlust are some of the things that can cause

24:20

the beast to rise. The beast

24:22

is capable of taking over the vampire's consciousness, their

24:25

conscious mind, force them into

24:27

a frenzied state where they take violent,

24:30

often deeply regrettable actions that they otherwise

24:32

might not. One of

24:34

the major themes of vampire is character's battles

24:36

to strike a balance between their violent predatory

24:38

nature and being at least a little morally

24:40

responsible before their humanity is completely

24:42

overtaken by this powerful force within themselves. This

24:45

could be read as a lesson for all people. Learn

24:48

how to balance your worst, most

24:50

base impulses, or you're going

24:52

to suffer the consequences. It could also

24:54

be seen now as a license to do whatever you want,

24:56

no matter how cruel or terrible. You couldn't really

24:58

help it. You were simply overtaken by

25:00

the beast. You drank a

25:02

bit. Too much vampire blood. Wait

25:04

up! Oh! And shit went

25:06

off the rails. What'd you guys do? He didn't ask

25:08

for the beast. You were made a beast. When

25:10

you got turned into a fucking bloodthirsty undead vampire. BTM

25:14

became Rod's escape from this world. He loved the

25:16

beast. He wanted to give in to the

25:18

beast and punish a world that had to be fair. Punish

25:21

him quite often. BTM was his

25:23

way out of his massively unstable home life, which

25:25

involved an absentee dad and a mom who quite

25:27

possibly molested him, never held down a job for

25:29

long, often resorted to sex work or bumming off

25:31

her parents when she didn't feel like showing up

25:33

to a job. Rod also

25:35

partially was raised by his maternal grandparents,

25:38

devout Pentecostals, horrified and embarrassed by the

25:40

choices of their daughter, Sondra. They

25:42

never wanted her to get pregnant at 16, or even go

25:44

out in pants or wear makeup or really have any much

25:46

fun at all. BTM Sondra took

25:49

her rebellion against their wishes too far, but

25:51

then would come crawling back from time to time when she needed money or

25:53

a place to stay. And also, Rod's

25:55

grandpa may have created the darkness that Rod and his mom

25:57

got wrapped up in when he allegedly There was so

25:59

much chaos and pain in Rod's

26:01

childhood. Understandably,

26:04

he didn't much care for his real life, so he

26:06

invented a new one. He gave

26:08

himself a background that didn't start off in backwoods,

26:11

Central Florida or Bumfuck, Kentucky, but instead

26:13

in France. In the 1400s,

26:15

vampire Rod had been a filthy rich,

26:17

handsome as fuck, a wrist of cracked noise.

26:20

He was respected, powerful, feared, super handsome.

26:23

Probably a big old fat dick

26:25

too. He was a vampire

26:27

giga-chat, wrist and dick and

26:29

skull-moggin' the fuck out of lowly medieval

26:32

Melvins and crushing so much giga-stacy-puss and

26:34

just riding around crashing women's bicycles, anyone

26:36

that he wanted. And his name

26:38

was Roderick. No, it was way cooler. It

26:40

was Vassago, which is very

26:42

likely a nod to a demon found in some

26:44

old occult literature. Just Vassago

26:46

spelled a different way. Vassago was a go-edic

26:49

demon in the occult literary work we became familiar with

26:51

a few weeks ago. And the exorcisms suck.

26:53

The Lesser Key of Solomon. I might

26:56

have mentioned that in the, I think we mentioned that in

26:58

the West Baptist three as well. The

27:00

grimoire spell book that deals with demonology.

27:03

Vassago was third in command of the spirits

27:05

of Satan's army of rebellious angels, according to

27:07

occult belief, and possessed special powers

27:09

such as fortune telling. Well, fuck that. Well,

27:12

Rod Vassago, Rod Sago, if you will,

27:15

he neither liked the bourgeoisie that he was a part of back

27:17

in France, nor the peasants that

27:20

he ruled over. So he decided to let his soul

27:22

undertake a 500 or so year slumber. He

27:24

went into a bit of a vampiric hibernation.

27:27

You got to recharge those bloodless batteries every

27:30

once in a while so he can get even stronger. You

27:32

know, be able to fang mong or

27:34

fang mong. There we go. Any and

27:36

all other vampires. You're a fucking gigadracula.

27:39

While he slept, his spirit had access to the ancient

27:41

worlds of the Arabians, the Egyptians, the Greeks. Also

27:44

access to a set of entities he called the

27:47

elders whom he could commune with in the vast

27:49

darkness. He accumulated all kinds

27:51

of knowledge, almost certainly found ancient

27:53

library of Alexandria scrolls that allowed him to

27:55

shoot fireballs. And he went on a lot

27:57

of bitchin' astral adventures. to

28:00

be reborn. He decided to emerge, cloaked

28:02

as an American teen, a teen who

28:04

would be the ultimate rebel. So

28:07

why America? Why not back to Europe? Well,

28:09

the saga, I mean, Rod, Rod saga, would

28:11

later say that he regarded himself as

28:13

a satanic vampire. satanic

28:15

and so powerful. He was an equal to God.

28:18

And since America was the most sinful country on earth, filled

28:21

to the brim with greed and

28:23

corruption here in the United States

28:26

of debauchery, he would

28:28

find the devil worshipers he needed to complete his army.

28:31

Rod wouldn't have liked those twilight post

28:33

vamps. For him, vampires were supposed to

28:35

be full evil. By the

28:37

time Rod was a teen, while most of his evil vampire

28:39

talk and brooding demeanor turned off a lot of his peers,

28:42

some were drawn to his bad boy,

28:44

rebel persona, he was like

28:46

James Dean. If James

28:49

Dean was a lot less attractive, painted his fingernails

28:51

black, wore a mesh crop top, and was actually not

28:53

at all like James Dean, but more like Marilyn Manson

28:55

minus any and all musical talent. Not

28:58

visually appealing to most girls with his long, narrow

29:00

nose, pale skin, claw like nails and thin body. For

29:03

some, there was something darkly

29:05

charismatic about old Rod saga. God's

29:07

equal. Rod dog, God Rod,

29:10

even if he was also a little repulsive. Rod

29:13

God did have flowing black hair, a

29:15

bit below shoulder length and silky. He usually

29:17

kept a tie back and ponytail. He

29:19

did have yeah, great hair. I'll give him that. Also,

29:21

a real good talker. Spoke eloquently

29:23

about good and evil, proclaiming calmly and

29:25

confidently that he was a fallen angel,

29:27

capital F, capital A, the

29:29

Antichrist, as a matter of fact.

29:32

And he had a good mind for both philosophy and

29:34

politics, keeping track of international affairs the way most 16

29:36

year olds did not. He

29:38

said crazy shit, like how Saddam Hussein

29:40

was the fourth Antichrist. He

29:42

would say so casually and seriously, few kids

29:44

believed him. He knows things. He

29:47

had a personality a lot like an emerging cult leader. You

29:50

don't got to win them all. Right? Just

29:52

like one out of 1000. If you really get them in, you

29:55

can start accumulating a nice little

29:57

following. Central Florida, he would

29:59

make two close. friends by sharing his elaborate

30:01

fantasy world musings, but maybe in

30:03

Rod's mind, real world musings, two

30:06

young girls named Janine LeClaire and Heather

30:08

Wendorf. But not long after befriending them,

30:10

dating one of them and having the other want to date him,

30:13

family instability reared his ugly head again and he

30:15

had to move back to Murray, Kentucky. While

30:18

Rod Dogg Godrod did not look forward

30:20

to returning to Murray, he did find a

30:22

meet up with some birds of a blood sucking familiar

30:24

feather. He hooked up with

30:26

what he found out to be a surprising

30:28

amount of local vampire enthusiasts and eventually he

30:31

would form his own dock coven. This

30:33

coven's main meet up spot was called the

30:35

Vampire Hotel. A dilapidated destruction of

30:38

the middle of the woods near Kentucky Lake and the land between

30:40

the lakes. There his vampire

30:42

clan would throw parties, use

30:44

psychedelics and take part in

30:46

various types of vampire, vampiric rituals. Rituals

30:48

they took so seriously, some started

30:51

to have a hard time understanding what was real and

30:53

what was pretend. Was Rod

30:55

actually a vampire as he said or was

30:57

he just goofing around for fun? Bit of

30:59

escapism. Some kids later swore

31:01

they saw him turn into a 9 foot

31:03

tall demon with their own eyes. Other

31:06

said he sacrificed animals. Almost

31:08

everybody saw him drink human blood. He encouraged

31:11

everyone else to drink blood, many did. And

31:14

some of these kids, these three

31:16

teenagers would follow Rod to Eustace,

31:18

Florida in November of 1996 to

31:20

begin a vampiric journey around the

31:22

world. New Orleans, Cairo,

31:24

Rome, meeting up with

31:27

ancient vampiric brethren and reclaiming

31:29

Visago's ancestral tassel in Wales.

31:32

I thought I'd be in France, but whatever. Rod's

31:34

minions knew he was a violent but he was

31:36

a bad-boiled friend, a constant-flurred, aggressive manipulator who did

31:38

as many drugs as he could get his hands

31:40

on but maybe, just maybe, he

31:43

was also a legit vampire. And he

31:45

could lead them into immortality. Ah,

31:48

to be a teenager again, right? When

31:50

the most ridiculous bullshit could feel so real, I

31:53

still daydream every day and live all

31:56

kinds of lives to my head. Oh man, the

31:58

adventures I go on internally every single day. But

32:01

when I was a teenager, damn if I

32:03

didn't almost truly convince myself that a lot of

32:05

these wild fantasies could for sure come true. I

32:08

actually thought that maybe I could find stuff

32:10

like a portal to another dimension in the woods. I

32:12

thought I might just be able to really control some shit with

32:14

my mind. And I bet at one

32:17

time or another, I thought that maybe I could be a real vampire. Maybe

32:19

like a real vampire would show up in my life. You

32:22

know, a super sexy one probably, like

32:24

Kate Beckinsale's Celine in the Underworld franchise.

32:27

Hail, Lucifina! Holy shit! I'm a little bit

32:29

of a bitch, actually. And she would truly convert me. And

32:32

I would leave my little Idaho town and travel the world

32:34

and be immortal and fuck a whole bunch and, you know,

32:36

for sure kill a lot of lichen werewolves and, you know,

32:38

hail Nimra. As crazy

32:40

as that story is, to an extent, maybe more than

32:42

I care for a moment, I do get it. I

32:45

get the appeal of getting lost in your own little world.

32:47

I mean, hell, I made my own

32:49

little world right here for you to listen to and for

32:51

me to get lost in every week. I

32:53

get it. But they took this shit way too

32:55

far. God got way too lost

32:57

in his made-up vampiric story. And

32:59

now let's spend a couple of hours getting lost

33:01

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Timeline. Rod

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was born Roderick Justin Farrell. March

38:29

28, 1980 in Murray, Kentucky with

38:31

the umbilical cord wrapped around his neck. Almost

38:34

stillborn. God tried to kill him. God tried

38:36

to kill a little vampire, but the devil cut the

38:38

cord. Rod's difficult birth

38:40

could be interpreted as an omen of sorts for his

38:42

difficult life. Even leaving the womb was more

38:44

traumatic for Rod than it is for the average meat sack.

38:48

Rod would be the first and only child of

38:50

his very young parents, Rick Farrell and Sondra Gibson,

38:52

both in grade school when Sondra got pregnant. Back

38:55

in 6th grade, Sondra in 3rd, kids

38:57

have always grown up fast, too fast in

39:00

Murray, Kentucky. Now there were

39:02

teenagers still in high school when Sondra got

39:04

pregnant. It wasn't quite that bad. Rick's exact age never listed,

39:06

not even in court records. Only said he was a teenager

39:08

still in high school. Sondra

39:10

just 16 when she got pregnant, 17 when she gave

39:12

birth to Rod. The two got married

39:14

9 days after Rod was born, but then separated

39:16

a few weeks later, quickly got divorced and would

39:18

never get back together again. Rod's

39:21

dad would remain in his life barely

39:24

until he was 8 years old when

39:26

he would completely and totally abandon his

39:28

son. Fuckin' dads! After

39:31

Rod turned 8, Rick wouldn't see him again

39:33

until Rod's trial for a double homicide. At

39:35

the trial, he wouldn't even refer to his son by name. Rick

39:38

would consistently call Rod the child. So

39:41

that's super cool. One of the

39:43

only times Rod would show any emotion at all during

39:45

his trial was when his dad took the witness stand

39:47

and his defense attorney spoke with him about how Rod

39:49

never even got a card on his birthday, or Christmas,

39:51

from his father. When Rod committed

39:53

his killings, the wounds of being abandoned were still pretty

39:55

fresh and deep. Rick spoke of

39:58

how manipulative, argumentative, and confrontational... Rod's

40:00

mother, Sondra, was, as did

40:02

Rick's mother, Betty Jean Farrell, who actually went to

40:04

court when Rod was young to try and get

40:06

visitation rights, and Sondra ended up shooting

40:08

those down. Rick, not

40:10

a good dad, and as we'll soon

40:12

see, while she never completely abandoned her child, Sondra,

40:15

definitely not a good mom, not by any stretch

40:17

of the imagination. Rick

40:19

said at Rod's trial that by the time

40:21

his son, the child, was eight, in 1988,

40:24

he just, quote, gave up trying to have

40:26

a relationship with him. By

40:28

that point, he joined the armed forces, and then

40:30

he would go on to get a bachelor's and

40:32

a master's degree in aviation technology and build himself

40:35

a pretty respectable career in the

40:37

airline insurance industry. Little Rod

40:39

would end up staying with his mother,

40:41

Sondra's parents, Harold and Rosetta Gibson, and

40:43

Harold may have molested him. Per

40:46

court documents, the grandfather

40:48

he has continuously referred to with regard to

40:50

the sexual abuse allocation is his

40:53

maternal grandfather. This evidence is supported

40:55

by Rod's aunt, who as a young teenager was

40:57

sexually fondled by her father. Rod

41:00

has been consistent about his innocence being taken away

41:02

at age five. In court,

41:04

Rod's aunt also testified under oath that

41:07

Harold molested Sondra. Sondra

41:09

had an extremely volatile relationship with

41:11

her father and mother. Sometimes

41:14

she would leave Rod with him alone. Other times, she also

41:17

stayed with her parents, but typically not for long. They'd

41:19

have a big fight. She'd take off, stay with

41:21

someone else across town or maybe leave town entirely

41:23

for a little while. Rod's life

41:25

was consistently chaotic. Not

41:27

only was Sondra only sometimes be his primary caregiver, she'd

41:29

also tell Rod that he didn't have to listen to

41:32

her parents' rules when he stayed with them. Just

41:34

openly encouraged his rebelliousness. According

41:37

to some sources, she not only allowed him to skip classes

41:39

in school, she also told him that he should. So that's

41:41

fucking awesome. She regularly,

41:44

May probably did hard drugs with him,

41:46

got too into playing vampiric RPGs with

41:48

him. And according to at least one

41:51

psychologist Rod would see in prison, she

41:53

had a romantic sexual relationship with her

41:55

son. So Rod's whole

41:57

family dynamic super fucked up. Sondra

42:00

was a wild child party girl who wanted to fuck

42:02

around, maybe if not probably, you know, fuck

42:04

her son, and never hold down a steady

42:06

job. Her parents were strict,

42:08

moralist, Pentecostal fundamentalists who she

42:10

felt made her life a living hell, commanding

42:13

her to wear her hair long, not wear makeup,

42:15

never go to movies, dances, the beach. Her

42:17

dad also, again, may have been a pedophile. Cute

42:20

and gray-eyed with a button nose, Sondra dropped out of

42:23

school at 16, not long after getting pregnant, and

42:25

never really got her life back on track. Like

42:28

her son would be, she was an outcast, disliked by most of

42:30

the kids she used to go to school with,

42:32

and also by the congregants of her parents' church in Murray.

42:35

And speaking of Murray, let's talk about

42:37

the town a bit before moving forward. Murray

42:40

is a little college town of only about 17,000 residents,

42:42

located in southwest Kentucky, about

42:45

a two-hour drive from the nearest city of Nashville, Tennessee.

42:48

The main source of the local economy

42:50

is a giant castle just outside

42:52

of town, or some secretive rich guy. Pays

42:55

a lot of local people to look the other way,

42:57

when his henchmen come into town, kidnap children, take

42:59

them to the castle, never to be seen again, or

43:02

when he flies into town at night, reportedly

43:04

as a bat, transforms into a man, bites beautiful

43:06

women on the neck, then either carries

43:09

them back to the castle or turns back into

43:11

a bat and flees from angry villagers approaching him

43:13

with, like, you know, torches and wooden stakes and

43:15

garlic and stuff. One

43:17

angry villager! Ah, ah, ah!

43:21

Two angry villagers! Ah, ah,

43:24

ah! Or maybe that was silly. And

43:26

maybe the main source of the local economy

43:28

is Murray State University. That

43:30

sounds more realistic. A public university with

43:32

over 9,000 students. So

43:34

big time college town, over 9,000 students in

43:37

a little burg of around 17,000 total residents. You

43:40

know, in a college town like that, that makes for an interesting

43:42

local culture. Murray sits in what's

43:45

sometimes called the buckle of the Bible Belt, and

43:47

to be fair, several locations from Kentucky all the

43:49

way to Texas, make that same exact claim. Ah,

43:52

but it's one of them. Very conservative area,

43:54

approximately 75 churches in a town of 17,000,

43:57

majority of them, Baptist, Pentecostal, and the Catholic Church.

44:00

some other version of fundamentalism. Some

44:02

of Rod's old vampire pals after his arrest spoke of

44:04

Murray as being a town chock full of good old

44:06

boy rednecks and jacked up pickup trucks who loved to

44:08

shit on goth kids. But also because

44:10

of the college in the 90s had

44:12

a shit ton of goth kids. I

44:15

would say high school or college is when most people who

44:17

get into role playing games like Vampire the Masquerade do get

44:19

into them. And a lot of college

44:21

kids, former college kids, local high school kids who were

44:23

hanging out with college kids were into

44:25

these games when today's story takes place. Murray

44:28

State also home to 26 different frats

44:30

and sororities. So conservative area, but

44:33

also party town. And

44:35

Rod's mom, Sandra, loved to party. She

44:38

frequently, as she kind of raised Rod along with

44:40

her parents would seemingly try and get her life

44:42

together somewhat, maybe working in a fast food place

44:44

or equivalent for a few weeks before quitting, getting

44:46

fired, and then it would be fucking party time,

44:49

sex, drugs, and maybe not any rock and roll because

44:52

it was not much of a music scene. In

44:54

between regular jobs, she sometimes turned tricks into

44:56

sex worker, also was frequently a

44:58

welfare recipient while she partied and leaned on her parents

45:00

to support her and her son. And

45:02

by the time Rod was five, she was very into

45:05

two things that would later help define her son's life,

45:07

drugs and witchcraft. Perhaps

45:10

as a rebellion against her parents, she hung around

45:12

with drug dealers and pushers, dated a bunch of

45:14

them on a few occasions when her parents told

45:16

her to knock that shit off, she threatened to

45:18

have her associates kill them, family

45:21

a little bit dysfunctional. Two extremes

45:23

continually colliding. Extreme fundamental

45:25

conservatism, clashing with rebellious,

45:27

wildly irresponsible liberal hedonism.

45:30

And by the time Rod was eight, at the

45:33

latest, she introduced him to witchcraft. And

45:35

not like a healthy, peace and nature-loving, wicked kind

45:37

of witchcraft, more like a fuck grandpa and grandma,

45:39

fuck God, I'd love to see some demons show

45:41

up and ruin some shit kind of

45:44

witchcraft. While the satanic panic

45:46

of the 80s was built on mostly hysterias I've

45:48

talked about many times, there were some fucked up

45:50

people who did want to figure

45:52

out how to conjure and control dark forces and unleash

45:54

them upon humanity. And Sondra, definitely one

45:56

of those people. As you

45:58

can see, a lot more than a role-playing. game about vampires would

46:00

help turn Rod into a killer. Sonder

46:03

was more than a little intrigued by tarot cards,

46:05

books of spells, supposed potions, she led her obsession

46:07

with the occult take over her life and influenced

46:09

her son heavily. For a time

46:11

when Rod was young, she dated a man named David who claimed

46:13

to be a shaman priest. And to

46:16

get a rise out of her parents, she talked with

46:18

them about playing games, they worried about being devilish with

46:20

Rod like Dungeons and Dragons. Sonder's

46:22

father Harold was a traveling salesman and he and Rosetta

46:24

would move back and forth between Murray, Kentucky, and

46:27

kind of the outline area around Florida, or

46:29

excuse me, Orlando, Florida, like Eustace, Florida. And

46:33

every time that they would move, he and

46:35

Rosetta would bring their troubled daughter and grandson with

46:37

them afraid to leave Rod alone anywhere with Sonder.

46:40

All the back and forths will leave Rod feeling like he didn't

46:42

belong anywhere, spent his first few years in Kentucky,

46:45

followed by a move to Winter Garden, Florida, subbed

46:47

14 miles west of downtown Orlando. Before

46:49

he started grade school, it seems Rod and Sonder moved back

46:51

to Murray, while her folks stayed

46:54

in Florida near Orlando, back in

46:56

Kentucky, and early grade school during the 80s, late 80s. Rod

46:59

lived alone with his mom at the South Side Manor

47:01

apartments. Fully subsidized, Sonder Gibson was

47:03

able to live there rent free, and thus she no

47:06

longer needed to stay with her parents at that time.

47:08

While she partied, Rod was permitted to play

47:10

his fantasy games, basically unsupervised, all

47:13

the time with his friends, mostly Matt Goodman and

47:15

Scott Anderson, using the woods near the

47:17

apartments to engage in fake battles for hours and hours.

47:20

And for a lot of kids, you know, that would not

47:22

be detrimental. But for Rod, it gave him

47:24

time too much time to push his developing

47:26

mind and imagination and imagination possibly fueled by

47:28

a lot of fucked up family trauma, further

47:30

and further into his increasingly dark escapist world,

47:32

any added psychedelics at a young age, I

47:34

don't know if it's this young, but within

47:36

a few years. To all

47:38

that. In 1990, no longer

47:41

able to care for herself again, or her son, despite

47:43

free housing, Sonder, such

47:45

a mess. Now 27, Rod now 10 leaves

47:48

Kentucky for Florida again. They

47:50

move in with Rod's grandparents in Eustace, another

47:52

suburb of Orlando, kind of quite

47:55

a bit further out, about 40 miles from downtown

47:57

Orlando, but still considered part of the metro area.

48:00

And Eustace, Rod attended Eustace Middle School and

48:02

he would also start classes at Eustace, like

48:04

junior high. Excuse me, high school.

48:06

So he attended middle school and the beginning of high school. His

48:09

mom would also start to date a man after living in

48:11

Florida for a few years named

48:13

Darren Vraven. I

48:15

feel like Vraven's a made up last name for this guy. The

48:18

two will get married in the summer of 1995 in

48:20

Daytona Beach. Stay married about

48:22

six months. He was

48:24

super cool, a real winner. If

48:26

not Chad, at least to Brad, big wrists,

48:28

solid skull. He was a drug

48:31

dealer from Louisiana who was very into

48:33

satanic worship and occult rituals. Later

48:36

Sandra will admit that Darren supplied her son, Rod, with

48:38

a variety of drugs that she knew about but had

48:40

nothing to stop. So by junior high, you

48:42

know, beginning of high school, if

48:45

not before, he's already fucked around with hard drugs. One of

48:47

his favorites will be LSD. Down

48:49

in Eustace, Rod also became friends with two

48:51

girls from a very different world. Mentioned them

48:53

earlier, Janine LeClaire, Heather Wendorf. Heather

48:56

had heard about the boy who called himself a vampire. Some

48:59

friends at school thought that they were, you know, who

49:02

thought they were ridiculous. But when she met him or thought

49:04

he was ridiculous, excuse me, she had to admit she was

49:06

attracted to him. Right, might have been

49:08

a case of opposites attract. Heather was

49:10

a lichen, werewolf. Ancient blood

49:12

enemy of the vampires, descendant of William

49:14

Corvinus. Son of Alexander, brother of Marcus,

49:17

the first vampire. Sorry,

49:19

started thinking about underworld again. No, Heather was

49:21

just a good kid from a good family. Heather's

49:23

parents had created a wonderful life for her and her sister,

49:25

Jennifer. That was just about the furthest thing from Rod's life

49:28

with Sondra and his grandparents. Heather's

49:30

mother was Ruth Wendorf, born Neoma Ruth Adams

49:32

from the mountains of West Virginia. She

49:35

grew up a farm girl, knowing lots about

49:37

livestock, chickens and hogs. She got

49:39

married young to a guy named Joe Queen, and

49:41

they had two daughters, Paula and Samantha. By

49:44

the time Paula turned 16, it became clear that the couple was

49:46

not meant to be. They'd rush things. And

49:48

Ruth and Joe decided to separate. Ruth found

49:50

a job at a place called Crown Cork and Seal,

49:52

do an unglamorous factory work, which paid enough for her

49:54

to keep a roof over her and her daughter's heads.

49:57

And she met Rick Wendorf. Rick

50:00

Dats in the same suck. Ruth

50:02

didn't think there's anything special about him, but her friend,

50:04

Bobby Spears, convinced her to go out with him, went

50:06

out for a few months, and then Ruth discovered she

50:08

was pregnant. So I guess Rick might've been

50:10

at least a little special. Ruth

50:12

was in a tough spot now, not super thrilled to be starting

50:15

a new family again, a little later in life, but Rick loved

50:17

the shit out of her, convinced her to

50:19

move in, let him take care of her.

50:21

She agreed. Soon after giving birth to Jennifer

50:23

Wendorf, she became pregnant again, gave birth to

50:25

her fourth child, Heather. Rick's

50:27

company, which manufactured metal cans

50:29

and plastic containers for orange juice, soon

50:32

moved north of Orlando, and Rick

50:34

got a big promotion, which meant Ruth could stay home with

50:36

the girls. They scoured the Lake

50:38

Country area for a property, fell in

50:40

love with the rural outskirts of Eustace,

50:43

where they were able to buy five acres at a great

50:45

price. They constructed a 3,000-foot house

50:47

with a built-in pool, vegetable garden for Ruth,

50:49

woods for the kids to play in. They

50:51

bought season passes to Disney World. They would

50:54

go on camping trips in the mountains. Girls

50:56

took music lessons, family going picnics. They

50:58

had every toy a kid could want, no handsy-pedo pop-pop,

51:00

more or less than any of them. Rick

51:03

was a damn genius when it came to business and money.

51:06

He invested his hard-earned dollars in companies

51:08

like Disney, McDonald's, eventually saved enough for

51:10

his daughter's college funds, even

51:12

bought stocks in his daughter's names, so

51:14

the girls could learn about investing early and start

51:17

their retirements before ever entering the workforce. Great

51:19

dad. Rick's parents and two brothers

51:21

lived nearby. They'd come over to visit a lot,

51:23

especially his identical twin brother, Billy. They'd

51:26

bring the kids. It was a good, wholesome

51:28

family time for all. Pretty idyllic life. The

51:31

family never seemed to fight, never really argued.

51:33

Just had the normal growing pains of raising

51:35

two kids. Rick and Ruth

51:37

also loved the hell out of each other. Heather

51:40

grew up so surrounded by love that

51:42

maybe Rod's dysfunction and darkness intrigued

51:45

her simply because it was so foreign.

51:48

She had a crush on him, but Rod did not

51:50

immediately reciprocate. Instead, he went for her best

51:52

friend. That always stinks. Deneen

51:54

Leclerc. My mind just flashed when

51:56

I was in grade school. All the girls love Ryan Shaw.

51:59

Not who cares about me. I still think

52:01

about it every once in a while. Janine went to school

52:03

in nearby Leesburg, which meant—and Ryan was

52:05

my buddy. Sorry, I got distracted in my

52:07

head there. Janine went to school in nearby Leesburg, which meant

52:09

that Heather and Rod would end up spending more time together

52:12

than he and Janine would. Sucks for

52:14

Heather. Because Rod was already

52:16

goth as fuck, they spent

52:18

a lot of their time hanging out in a nearby

52:20

cemetery, the Greenwood Cemetery. Talk about vampires. Life.

52:24

Philosophy. More vampires. And

52:26

when Rod was with Janine, he also talked about vampires a

52:29

lot, and would try to seduce her in his

52:31

own goth way. He showed her

52:33

the occult, satanic altar he had made for

52:35

his room, that he cut himself on the

52:37

finger, pressed into her lips in some sort

52:39

of vampiric love gesture. One

52:41

lip touch. Ah, ah, ah. Two

52:44

titties I want to suck.

52:46

Ah, ah, ah. Three

52:49

bases left me touching a pussy. Ah,

52:51

ah, ah. Can you

52:53

imagine trying to seduce somebody with a count by count voice? I'd love

52:56

to know about somebody pulling

52:58

that off. One time I want to kiss

53:00

your lips. Two times

53:02

I want to suck on your nipples. Three

53:05

times let me put the tip in. Ah,

53:08

ah, ah. It's got

53:10

to be at least one person. They'll actually turn on. And

53:13

in my mind, she also talks like that. They just

53:15

go back and forth. One dick I want to stroke.

53:18

Two balls I want

53:20

to empty. Ah, ah, ah. Ah, ah, ah.

53:23

Ah, ah, ah. I'll stop now. Soon Heather

53:25

and Jeanine would be participating in occult rituals with

53:27

Rod. This is starting to feel

53:29

like a, like an after school fucking, one of

53:31

those after school special movies for the 90s, some

53:34

kind of PSA. They

53:36

were just two ordinary American girls from the

53:39

suburbs leading good and wholesome lives.

53:42

But then they met, they say Tanic

53:44

Vampire, lost their way and

53:46

ended up in hell. Uh,

53:50

the girls loved how spooky and mysterious it all was. And

53:53

I'm sure like normal teens, right, they got off on knowing how it

53:55

pissed off their parents. Right? How

53:57

mad their parents would be if they, if they found out about all this stuff. Girls

54:00

also got some insight into Rod's strange relationship with his mom,

54:02

which they would later attest to in

54:04

court about how batshit crazy and creepy she

54:06

was. One day

54:08

in December of 1995, 15-year-old Janine, 14-year-old

54:11

Rod, some other unnamed boy

54:13

who went to school with Rod, were

54:15

all in Rod's room, and they were cutting

54:17

themselves on their arms on Rod's bed with a razor. So

54:20

they could suck on each other's blood, naturally, and

54:22

then Sondra walked in and all hell broke loose.

54:25

Sondra thought that they were fucking. She accused Rod

54:27

of performing some kind of sex ritual with Janine, and

54:30

of being a devil worshipper. And she tore down his

54:32

altar in front of his friends, pulled him off his bed by his

54:34

hair, and screamed for Janine to get out. But

54:36

was she really mad at what she seemed to be mad at? Rod

54:39

told Janine something really odd as he walked her out after

54:41

the incident. He said, don't worry about my mom. She

54:44

just wants to be sired, as in

54:46

to be made a vampire, as in she

54:48

was fucking jealous that her 14-year-old son

54:51

Rod was letting Janine suck on

54:53

his blood. Creepy. Not

54:56

sure if she was molesting him at this point or not, but if I

54:58

had to guess, I would say she was. Very

55:00

few details are ever given about this possible

55:02

molestation of Rod. She

55:05

wasn't pissed at Rod because he was engaged in a

55:07

cult activity either, just mad she wasn't a part of

55:09

it. Following a year back in Kentucky,

55:11

Rod would build another satanic altar in his room,

55:13

and his mom would put occult markings in her

55:15

room. And she'd be

55:17

arrested and receive probation for trying to seduce one

55:19

of Rod's 14-year-old friends hoping to have

55:22

sex with him in a vampiric initiation ritual.

55:25

She is creepy as shit. Can you imagine having her as your mom? Even

55:28

if the molestation accusation regarding Rod is not

55:30

true. Just still such

55:32

a weird and creepy just goth-pedo. Just

55:35

fucking picture these goth kids like getting ready

55:37

to have this ritual in the room. Okay

55:39

fuckers, are you ready to dance with

55:41

the devil? We're about to call

55:43

him the power of the Dark Lord to strengthen our

55:45

vampire coven. I'm ready, dude.

55:48

But should we do this somewhere else? I just, I

55:50

think I heard your mom come home. I don't want

55:52

her to flip her shit, you know, and tell my folks she's

55:54

not going to rat you out, Brian. But she will

55:56

try and join our game. And

55:58

then her mom is fucking, his mom is watching. walks into dress like

56:00

Lucifina, walked into her teenage rebel

56:03

son's room looking more goth than he does,

56:05

sitting down in their little circle around the Ouija board,

56:07

tits almost popping out of her pushup bra, covered

56:10

by just some see-through mesh, her

56:12

lacy panties clearly visible underneath her little

56:14

black leather miniskirts. Mom, how many

56:16

times do I have to tell you you're not invited

56:18

to my coven? Stop being

56:21

such a brat and sire me already. Mom,

56:23

I'm not gonna sire you, you're embarrassing me.

56:25

Fine, I have my own Ouija board, and

56:27

I'm gonna conjure the devil before you do.

56:30

And when he gives me immortal power, I

56:32

won't invite you into my vampire coven, and

56:34

I won't sire you. Mom, please

56:36

don't conjure the Dark Lord before me. It's so fucked

56:38

up. Too late brat, if anyone

56:40

else wants to join a ritual, you can, I'll be in my

56:42

bedroom naked, covered in some pig's blood, I bought from the butcher.

56:45

I don't have a cool python and drugs too. Coke,

56:47

acid meth, it's gonna be fucking rad. Imagine

56:51

that's your fucking mom, like that's basically this

56:53

character is Rod's mom, but maybe she was

56:55

actually worse than that. Backing

56:58

up to Janine and Heather, being

57:00

thrown out of Rod's house now. Janine thought that Sandra's behavior was

57:02

so strange because, you know, it was. After

57:05

the door closed following Rod walking Janine out, after

57:08

Sandra's big meltdown, Rod walked back into his room

57:10

to tidy up, and Sandra continued to scream at

57:12

him. At one point, he told her

57:14

to get a life. She now started screaming that she

57:16

wished he was dead, and she grabbed a fucking knife

57:18

from the kitchen, she came after him, Rod grabbed a

57:21

knife of his own, stabbed it in the door frame, few inches

57:23

from her face. What a childhood.

57:26

One volatile, dysfunctional child kind of trying to

57:28

raise, but not really another. Shortly

57:31

after this incident, Sandra divorces Darren Vraven,

57:34

satanic fucking drug dealer, and

57:36

moves back to Murray, Kentucky away from her parents, and

57:39

returns to the Southside Manor apartments. Both

57:41

girls were devastated that he was moving back to Murray,

57:43

but promised to keep in touch. He said

57:46

he'd be back, he would, and

57:48

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I'm back. It's the beginning of 1996.

59:11

Rod has returned to Kentucky and shit is

59:13

about to get real crazy. In

59:15

early 1996, when Rod made it back

59:17

to Murray, he started hanging out with his old

59:19

elementary school buddies Matt Goodman, excuse me, and Scott

59:21

Anderson. He told them he'd

59:23

take them into his coven. Fucking cool. Get

59:26

them ready for an eternal existence. Nice

59:28

gesture. He's very into vampires now. Rod's

59:31

time in Florida seemed to have increased his

59:33

mystique and Matt and Scott eagerly agreed. They

59:35

believed him or at least Scott did. When he

59:37

said shit like, you know, Rod could turn

59:39

into a nine-foot tall demon. Scott would later

59:41

claim he saw this happen. Cool

59:44

story, bro. Both Matt and Scott,

59:46

to be fair to them, they were primed to need

59:48

someone to believe in. They were both misfits themselves. Also

59:50

had very troubled, incredibly unstable homewives. They saw some of

59:52

themselves and their friend Rod who had been carted back

59:54

and forth across the country so many times, exposed to

59:57

someone shit a kid should never have to be exposed

59:59

to. When Rod bragged about

1:00:01

being a killer, when he compared himself to

1:00:03

Jack the Ripper and Jeffrey Dahmer, they didn't

1:00:05

fear him or think he was crazy. They

1:00:08

just saw a strong fellow outcast who would protect

1:00:10

him, just mouth it off. Also

1:00:12

Matt and Scott were used to people their own

1:00:14

age talking a lot about vampires, claiming to be

1:00:17

vampires. Remember the College Town

1:00:19

of Murray in the mid-90s, just like in other

1:00:21

college towns across America, Vampire the Masquerade,

1:00:23

one of the most popular fantasy role-playing games

1:00:25

in the country. Another

1:00:27

kid Matt and Scott knew in Murray who was into

1:00:29

being a vampire as much as Rod almost

1:00:32

was a 19-year-old kid named Steven Jaden

1:00:34

Murphy, who other kids knew as

1:00:37

the vampire prince of the city. Some

1:00:39

other kids knew him as that. Most kids knew him

1:00:42

as, check out this vamp dork in the Nine-ish Nails T

1:00:44

who won't shut up about his nerd coven. Possibly.

1:00:46

That's possibly how most people knew him. Jaden

1:00:49

was also bragging about his vampiric bloodlust to his group

1:00:51

of friends, his coven, as he called them. So

1:00:54

many vampires in small town Kentucky. I

1:00:56

did not expect that when I picked this topic. Jaden

1:00:59

was, according to Jaden, more into vampires

1:01:01

than Rod. Jaden later

1:01:03

claimed that he was the one who turned Rod

1:01:05

into Visago, that he helped him create

1:01:07

that backstory, that he sired Rod into his

1:01:10

coven. Not sure if that's

1:01:12

the truth, but that's what he claims. This

1:01:14

story, particularly going forward from this point in the

1:01:16

timeline, filled with a lot of very

1:01:18

imaginative people who seem to have

1:01:21

a lot of trouble deciphering between fantasy and reality,

1:01:23

and also people with big egos about this sort

1:01:25

of thing, very concerned with who was the coolest,

1:01:27

most powerful fake vampire and stuff. And

1:01:30

when it came time for Rod's trial, and when

1:01:32

journalists began interviewing Rod and his old friends, a

1:01:35

recollection of events and the timelines went

1:01:37

along with them very quite a bit,

1:01:39

especially between Rod Dog, God Rod, and

1:01:42

Prince Jaden. If you ask Rod,

1:01:44

he was already a big deal vampire motherfucker before

1:01:46

he returned to Kentucky. Like

1:01:48

probably the most powerful vampire in

1:01:50

all of Florida, which just ain't quite a bit.

1:01:54

But if you ask Jaden, oh yeah sure, Rod dabbled

1:01:56

in bloodletting, and yeah he had a Santana altar in

1:01:59

Florida, but he didn't. really know what the hell

1:02:01

he was doing about his vampireism. And since

1:02:03

he didn't really know what he was doing, he was just a

1:02:05

fake vampire. He thought it was a

1:02:07

vampire. It was Jaden, the vampiric prince of

1:02:09

Murray Kentucky, who turned him into, you

1:02:11

know, being a real vampire. If

1:02:13

you've ever seen What We Do in the Shadows, the

1:02:16

goofy 2019 FX comedy horror series,

1:02:19

but mostly comedy mockumentary about a

1:02:21

group of bumbling idiot vampires living

1:02:23

in Staten Island, the

1:02:25

next section of this timeline, basically until we get to the

1:02:28

murders, reminds me so much of that show. These people remind

1:02:30

me of characters from that show. When

1:02:32

Rod moved back to Murray, Jaden and his coven primarily

1:02:37

hung out at their headquarters, which

1:02:39

was a Hardee's, it was a Hardee's fast food restaurant, the

1:02:42

fast food burger joint with

1:02:44

almost identical branding and the same menu as

1:02:46

Curl's Jr. Sad times, sad

1:02:49

times for a coven of vampires. When you

1:02:51

know, the coven's HQ is

1:02:54

a Hardee's lobby. One

1:02:56

big cheeseburger combo with

1:02:58

fries, two chocolate hand

1:03:01

scoop ice cream shakes.

1:03:04

In that lobby right there in public, they would frequently

1:03:06

do stuff like recite verses from the vampire Bible. It

1:03:10

doesn't say exactly which vampire Bible they use

1:03:12

by thinking which one there's a bunch in

1:03:14

publication. I think the vampire Bible they read

1:03:17

from probably the one first published in 1989

1:03:19

by a group called the temple of the vampire. Temple

1:03:22

of the vampire is technically a new religious movement

1:03:24

founded in 1989. I don't feel like it has

1:03:26

a lot of followers to explore

1:03:28

the positive aspects of the vampire mythos.

1:03:31

The temple states that it quote embraces only

1:03:33

those aspects of the vampire mythos that

1:03:35

include a love and respect for all

1:03:38

life, physical immortality, individual

1:03:40

elegance, proven wisdom, civilized behavior,

1:03:42

worldly success, and personal happiness.

1:03:45

Based in Lacey, Washington, which is just outside of

1:03:48

the capital of Olympia. Not only they have many

1:03:50

members, I can't find a physical address associated with

1:03:52

them. So I don't think they have any church,

1:03:54

so to speak. And their website is janky

1:03:56

as shit. They probably hold

1:03:59

black vampire masks. In places like God,

1:04:01

the men's room better Jack and box. And

1:04:03

Taco Bell. Parking Lots of them. A

1:04:06

Forty Years Or website. The Vampire Bible Folks is

1:04:08

primarily on three things: One.

1:04:11

The. Secret The Vampires and to draw

1:04:13

life force from human beings to

1:04:15

why vampires never harm others, are

1:04:17

barred from criminal acts and see

1:04:19

how to perform Asian rights of

1:04:22

the calling of the ended undead

1:04:24

gods in magical ritual. Ah ah

1:04:26

ah so that ritual totally works.

1:04:28

and stuff. All this group

1:04:30

is all about non violence and based on interviews of Jaden

1:04:32

have some across on you do. That. Is

1:04:35

what he seems to believe. Nonviolence.

1:04:37

He. Rod will butt heads over this. Film.

1:04:40

Based on several interviews of Jaden, I watched. Need

1:04:43

as I still important. right? And and

1:04:45

having a tough let him feel that

1:04:47

which is fine. Faces odd Ah, but

1:04:49

also going to say seems pretty smart

1:04:52

funny ah, self aware, at least somewhat

1:04:54

someone who takes continual role playing no

1:04:56

seriously, but doesn't actually thinks of themselves

1:04:58

as a real immortal vampire. Dress

1:05:01

Ensure Black. Referring to himself not just as

1:05:04

Das Ist, das Expanding as Ninety Six. They'd.

1:05:06

Love to do shit like invite under God

1:05:09

to join him. His competitors are the hardest

1:05:11

evils. plus that are fries whatnot. It's a

1:05:13

stealth like you can see the undead in

1:05:15

the heart is windows and seven bleed him.

1:05:18

For. The pretended to. They started the said

1:05:20

he had to call him. He also

1:05:22

them sort of leave the he could make them

1:05:24

somebody nobody else could. A living built

1:05:26

bar. Or through the Murray

1:05:29

dance. Vampire Grapevine was a have to measure.

1:05:31

was pretty small, great by. Was

1:05:33

marriages were to those rod set

1:05:35

of a meeting with Jaden at

1:05:38

Murray's Old Salem Cemetery to vampires

1:05:40

coming together the cemetery at midnight

1:05:42

to join forces. Or. Fight

1:05:44

to the Death. Or. Eat

1:05:47

some Hardy's Hand breaded chicken sandwiches

1:05:49

and hash browns are able don't.

1:05:52

For. Girlfriend Rod set by the Jaden

1:05:54

did sire Rod and his southern. Shortly

1:05:56

after they met. And on

1:05:58

the night Jaden cross rod over. Rod.

1:06:00

Couldn't get to sleep. He cried. The. Zebra

1:06:02

all night long as a scandal boy. Interest

1:06:05

in taking the stuff real says that. Ah

1:06:07

that are They sat down according rod

1:06:09

later at cemetery a cemetery. The both

1:06:12

for claimed that they had the supernatural

1:06:14

within them experience dealing with ghosts and

1:06:16

witches, past lives and undead souls. Didn't.

1:06:19

Told rather see had a powerful

1:06:21

siren England. Sire. Be determined

1:06:23

Vampire The Masquerade for a vampire who had

1:06:25

turning human to another ramparts an inhuman to

1:06:27

the group of Mps followers. Are

1:06:29

adjacent also said he was a good vampire

1:06:31

a Christian vampire in fact who use his

1:06:33

powers to serve the forces of light. Rod.

1:06:37

Not. A fan of that To consider this

1:06:39

a perversion. People that all real vampires were

1:06:41

satanic and a story. But he

1:06:43

knew he would need Jade to jumpstart for me to zone

1:06:45

vampiric companies and just. May. Be detained

1:06:47

to assemble vampires for hims and and

1:06:50

steal them in a hostile vampiric take

1:06:52

over. Ah ah ah. So.

1:06:54

The two boys were made an Old Salem Cemetery

1:06:57

almost every night to feed upon one another. As

1:06:59

they would smuggle slashing their shoulders and drink

1:07:02

to the blitz and perform various rituals for

1:07:04

the vampire Bible another sources. Also

1:07:06

soon robert bring someone new into a what

1:07:08

was still jaden seven. His new girlfriend

1:07:11

fifteen year old him Charity. He

1:07:13

lured or in by tell her that he'd witness blood rituals

1:07:15

as a kid. Old. Men sacrificing an

1:07:17

animal dripping blood all over him. All

1:07:19

kinds of spooky. Sit. Here.

1:07:21

Doesn't care about all that. Didn't even really

1:07:24

care about vampires suited board. So.

1:07:26

That rod god was cool may some one

1:07:28

himself talking about his supposed other girlfriends in

1:07:30

Florida and other join his little vampire coven

1:07:32

or click or clan where the spots I

1:07:34

would help him settle up. Not

1:07:37

long after the to join of rod social circle

1:07:39

begins to grow get. All of

1:07:41

the events rod moving to Murray and the murders will

1:07:43

take place Ninety Ninety Six by the way. Big Year.

1:07:45

For. The time one lot of vampires. it

1:07:47

happened. Early that Jurado

1:07:50

be invited to join what was called

1:07:52

the Victorian Age Masquerade Performing Society. A.

1:07:54

Group of local says pins

1:07:57

and propositional act towards ah

1:07:59

spam the Billie sites. No

1:08:01

doubts. Lane. Serial killer of

1:08:03

them are De Valera or who devote their acting

1:08:05

skills by using role playing game. We talked about

1:08:07

a length for the time with Vampire The Masquerade.

1:08:10

Rod. Was buried in his game. The same

1:08:12

will pull him much deeper into his vampire fantasy

1:08:15

and attach him further from reality. Not clear if

1:08:17

he's had played it before or or this was

1:08:19

his introduction to the skin I think before, but.

1:08:22

Doesn't. Say for certain and sources are

1:08:24

Jane one of these guys know serious

1:08:26

about vampirism as they were mostly about

1:08:28

acting. Roster wanted to play. And

1:08:30

they will both and of loving this group in the game. Full

1:08:33

Blown Masquerade sessions would last from sundown

1:08:35

to sun up. Often times as many

1:08:37

as seventeen members plane to perform. At

1:08:39

All good looking twenty five year old named

1:08:42

James yo he was game master the storyteller

1:08:44

who come up with the internal game mechanisms

1:08:46

known as the Constitution's they performed in the

1:08:48

crypt. As a James, his basement is off

1:08:50

campus house where the walls been painted black,

1:08:52

blood red curtain songs and classroom claim older

1:08:54

to the ceiling to create he bolted affects.

1:08:57

A size of the acting aspect which included props

1:08:59

i sayings and say blood. Gameplay.

1:09:02

Center to Dungeons Dragons. Players.

1:09:04

On Altair procedural dice A side

1:09:06

Quests by James. For

1:09:08

his care to Rod shows the vampire type known

1:09:10

as the Bonds of Wants. Someone. Who

1:09:12

wanted to enjoy life while it lasted? A he'd

1:09:14

missed a party M. Other

1:09:16

players included Messy James his girlfriend age not

1:09:18

listen sources who played him as a martyr

1:09:21

and an eight year old girl named April

1:09:23

Dotan a shy who played as a caregiver.

1:09:26

All. Of them would hunt each other betrayed other,

1:09:28

war between the other vampires plans and over

1:09:30

but it's been as wars. got cast. Spells

1:09:32

ball love, we'll all at all that stuff.

1:09:35

and some as a lives in care to emperors would blow. My.

1:09:37

Could rod bit jaded lip hard enough to draw

1:09:40

blood? At are jaded rap brought up

1:09:42

in a passionate kiss. They now consider themselves

1:09:44

to be blood bond. It. Characters.

1:09:46

And V T M R refer to the

1:09:49

supernatural blood in their bodies a sustained them

1:09:51

as vital. Vampires. Gain

1:09:53

by t by drinking blood been games accumulation

1:09:55

of by to is called a blood pool

1:09:57

of vampires. By doesn't inspire false feelings of.

1:10:00

In foster dependency if trump by others and

1:10:02

can lead to was called a blood bond.

1:10:05

According to the gained a Vampire best performing

1:10:07

the Bond is called the Residents. And.

1:10:09

The one performing be bound by it is called

1:10:11

a thrall. In most cases

1:10:13

a was drink three times from the same

1:10:16

vampire on three separate. It's nice to become

1:10:18

bonded once bonded, the thrall feel something akin

1:10:20

to a very twisted sort of love for

1:10:22

the vampires was are your bonded them? They

1:10:25

become the most important person in their life.

1:10:27

They. Also, become more susceptible to mind control by

1:10:30

the vampire and are willing to do anything

1:10:32

even ritual my to aid their regnet. Mortals.

1:10:34

Animals, even other vampires, other supernatural creatures

1:10:37

may be bound. In. The game.

1:10:40

Capital G. None. of this happened of

1:10:42

realize but Rod based on stuff like April don't

1:10:44

testified that he cried and several night long us

1:10:46

like a scared were to been crossed over. The

1:10:49

seems that he started to believe a lot of she was real. Ah,

1:10:52

still early. Ninety Ninety Six Light

1:10:54

becomes complicated for number of young

1:10:56

vampires and very. James. Ya

1:10:58

he had gotten engaged was girlfriend Missy V live

1:11:00

with but then shy showed up until James that

1:11:02

she was trying to was his baby. And

1:11:05

now need to stay with James and Missy. Soon.

1:11:08

They were live in a James's house, all of

1:11:10

them arguing incessantly. Yeah. I bet. Vampire.

1:11:13

Drama. So much Vamp drama is

1:11:15

a regular vamps soap opera right

1:11:17

now. one soon to be a

1:11:19

baby. Ah ah ah So where

1:11:21

my head in his other story,

1:11:24

people with a love triangle. No

1:11:26

one was ah ah ah. Jade

1:11:29

without a Sir James's house to mostly hanging

1:11:31

around watching be horror flicks with his girlfriend

1:11:33

actually rod also common by a lot of

1:11:35

one hang out James's Us. Regime.

1:11:38

Over Lot because he currently hated rub your

1:11:40

mom. Load. Going to school as well. And

1:11:43

James's house was the perfect getaway. He

1:11:45

was also excited the game seemed

1:11:47

to be. Escaping is complicated personal

1:11:49

situation by taking Masquerade to New

1:11:52

Heights. Pretty vampire scavenger hunt, some

1:11:54

college campus juggling, multiple complex storylines.

1:11:57

Is a cool. Little. Do a

1:11:59

net or one will be irresponsible. Your

1:12:01

kid on the way mother fucker. And why is

1:12:03

your twenty five year old our as pay poor

1:12:05

more energy into a vampire game you play? Of

1:12:07

most your high schoolers they get a job. Maybe.

1:12:10

Poor more energies into helping provide for the baby

1:12:12

are about to have been a general. Some.

1:12:15

People. Are while James

1:12:17

ignores is imploding personalized, Six. His

1:12:19

head the sand. Some new kids are joining

1:12:21

the ongoing vampire role playing game. And

1:12:23

will Jane the James worn rot who's either

1:12:26

about turned sixteen or is barely sixteen now

1:12:28

to stay away from the new recruits. Why?

1:12:31

He was annoying the shit out of

1:12:33

them with is one note stupid count

1:12:36

on town. Impressive was new recruits was

1:12:38

to the of a bar ah ah

1:12:40

ah to lot like are you living.

1:12:43

Now jaded is most of the rod was taking mastery

1:12:45

way too seriously and weird be blocked. Roads

1:12:48

holds a new plan to embrace certain

1:12:50

players especially two girls them Cindy and

1:12:52

since your twins who become in thrall

1:12:54

the idea of crossing over. From. Human

1:12:56

to vampire, Or the

1:12:58

embrace is defined and vampire. The

1:13:01

Masquerade world of Darkness lore as

1:13:03

follows: The Creator vampires not as

1:13:05

a sire, the newly created vampire,

1:13:07

a child, any creation process. The

1:13:09

Embrace. Our was also gained

1:13:11

a reputation as quite a little player around

1:13:13

this time, but he want to embrace all

1:13:16

sorts of gossip girls. When. Fred's

1:13:18

Bible Jaden James about how whether or not

1:13:20

raw.this it was actually real. Around this time

1:13:22

he was cryptic with and answers. Sometimes.

1:13:25

He insisted that he was is what you're human. But.

1:13:27

He would say that with a look and

1:13:29

or vocal tones that was interpreted as equal

1:13:32

that of winked as he had no i'm

1:13:34

not totally this is a regular human is

1:13:36

a regular guy that he that are. As

1:13:38

year progress towards the summer Daves became so

1:13:40

overwhelmed with his personal i probably didn't have

1:13:42

the energy. To. Protect new players. Rod

1:13:45

he big of these kids want to little

1:13:47

he stuck his blood feeds rodwell fuck it

1:13:49

Now their business fraud with views of every

1:13:51

game or well, what did he really do

1:13:53

like. He. detail rod though he

1:13:55

did want to cross over into the vampiric

1:13:57

world where the ads on that and i

1:13:59

did want him cut himself and feeding people in his house.

1:14:02

Fair. Meanwhile, Jaden is getting more

1:14:04

and more annoyed with Rod. The

1:14:06

two were now in direct competition for supremacy over

1:14:09

the few people who took their vampire game as seriously

1:14:11

as them, like Ashley, Jaden's girlfriend.

1:14:14

Ashley started complaining that Rod was stalking her following

1:14:16

her every move, but when confronted, Rod

1:14:18

would refuse to admit it. He also

1:14:20

refused to admit something else, Jaden suspected, that

1:14:22

Rod was dosing various female players with LSD

1:14:25

to make the game seem more real, to

1:14:27

make him seem more like an actual vampire.

1:14:30

If he was really doing that, that is so fucked up. I

1:14:33

don't doubt he was. Rod

1:14:35

turned 16 on March 28th, 1996, and

1:14:37

he'd been partying with his mom, former stepdad, other

1:14:39

random dudes with hard drugs, in particular LSD for

1:14:41

years in all likelihood. He was

1:14:44

taking up to 10 tabs of acid at

1:14:46

a time now. He knew

1:14:48

how acid can fuck up your perception of reality and

1:14:50

would know how unknowingly dropping someone like a

1:14:52

half a tab, one tab, during a game

1:14:55

like that, you know, would lead to them

1:14:57

thinking through the power of suggestion combined with

1:14:59

LSD's powerful hallucinogenic properties that they

1:15:01

were really seen what he told them that they

1:15:03

were seen. Jaden also

1:15:05

stumbled across a couple tabs, or Jaden, excuse me,

1:15:08

had stumbled across a couple tabs and confronted Rod,

1:15:10

but Rod said it was for his own personal use and

1:15:13

denied ever dosing anyone. And to be

1:15:15

fair to Rod, didn't seem like he needed drugs to

1:15:17

convince goth girls to like him. A

1:15:19

lot just did. His charity is on again,

1:15:21

off again girlfriend. There was shy, aka April

1:15:24

Doden, his frequent sex partner, despite her pregnancy

1:15:26

with James, and Janine and Heather,

1:15:28

both of whom did want to come visit him from Florida.

1:15:31

And there were more girls, some pretty young, girls

1:15:33

still in junior high, who Rod would meet

1:15:35

at the old Salem cemetery. The

1:15:37

power struggle over who was the head vampire honcho between

1:15:40

Rod, James and Jaden, if there was what you could

1:15:42

call a power struggle, was being won by Rod.

1:15:45

James was out because of his personal life. And for

1:15:47

him, this was more about having fun with improv than about actually

1:15:49

being a vampire. And between Jaden and

1:15:51

Rod, Rod won simply by virtue of his dark

1:15:53

charm. Goth girls like

1:15:56

satanic vamprod more than Christian vamprod.

1:15:58

Jaden. Getting drunk

1:16:00

on his own pathetic power, a big fish in the

1:16:02

tiniest of ponds, still in early 1996, Rod

1:16:05

would tell Shai that he had cast a spell on

1:16:07

her, unleashing

1:16:09

her elephant side and turning her into a

1:16:11

fairy. And Shai did not

1:16:13

tell him to get the fuck out of here. Now she believed him. She

1:16:16

spent the next several weeks molding herself into Rod's image of

1:16:19

what an elven fairy should be. Studying

1:16:21

candle spells, white magic, walking in shadows, whatever

1:16:23

that means, and practicing astral

1:16:25

projection. Based on me finding

1:16:27

a Vampiric Ask Me Anything blog on Tumblr, shadow

1:16:30

walking is the ability of vampires to travel from

1:16:32

one place to another. This allows

1:16:34

vampires to go around, albeit it must be

1:16:36

during the night or in well-shaded areas. As

1:16:39

a shadow, the distance of the vampire as a shadow, walks

1:16:42

depend on the type and level of vampire

1:16:45

they are. Okay. I'm guessing that extends to

1:16:47

vampires who are also elven fairies.

1:16:50

Cool. Glad I know that. Shai

1:16:52

was disappointed that

1:16:55

despite doing so much cool shit like practicing her shadow

1:16:57

walking, Rod still was not choosing

1:16:59

her over charity. In fact, when

1:17:01

she tried to force him to choose her, Rod

1:17:03

told her that he had used her white witchcraft

1:17:05

against her, saying he was tired of hearing her

1:17:07

talk about angels and wing creatures. And

1:17:10

now he had blocked her romantic hold over him with

1:17:12

magic and shit. Totally normal.

1:17:14

Skye, down but not defeated, continued to work

1:17:17

on her love incantations and earth and

1:17:19

magic. Hoping she could craft some type

1:17:21

of spell or potion or whatnot that would force Rod to come

1:17:23

back to her. She even built

1:17:25

a harvest altar and started her own

1:17:27

witch's covenant. Hoping

1:17:29

to use her growing power to lure

1:17:31

him away from charity. I mean,

1:17:34

what does she need to do? She's a fucking vampire,

1:17:36

she's an elf, she's a witch? Come

1:17:38

on! How much magic does

1:17:41

one girl need? Her

1:17:44

new magic did end up working. Or

1:17:46

maybe a different kind of magic. Maybe good

1:17:48

old fashioned pussy, power magic did. Most

1:17:51

powerful magic on earth. The summer of 1996 while

1:17:53

charity was away in South Dakota, visiting her

1:17:55

mom, Skye managed to nab Rod. And

1:17:57

by nab, I mean she fucked him. girlfriend's

1:18:00

back. And in a moment of sexual passion,

1:18:02

got him to agree to get engaged to her. So

1:18:04

things are going great now for Shai in the spring of 1996.

1:18:06

She's excited early summer.

1:18:09

She's excited to have James' baby. I actually forgot she was

1:18:11

pregnant for a bit. And with Rod's

1:18:13

followers growing by the day, she feels like

1:18:16

a queen amongst mortals, a high vampiric elf

1:18:18

witch priestess. With her social

1:18:20

security and welfare money, she manages to

1:18:22

set up a makeshift home for her, Rod, and her

1:18:24

future baby. So

1:18:27

many people. So many people making so many terrible choices in

1:18:29

this story. I can't remember another episode

1:18:32

where I wish that like the overwhelming majority of the characters

1:18:34

would just grow up and get jobs. And

1:18:36

look, I like role playing games. I love them. My

1:18:38

anger not coming from that angle. If you can play

1:18:41

these games and also pay your bills and manage your life,

1:18:43

fucking play away. Oh, so fun. But

1:18:46

if you can't manage your life and play, well, maybe don't play.

1:18:48

Maybe get your shit figured out. Maybe, I

1:18:50

don't know, give some stability to your child or children.

1:18:52

Maybe make that a priority. I

1:18:55

feel like an angry old man in this episode. Just fucking

1:18:57

kiss these days. No one wants to work anymore. Just want

1:19:00

to play their vampire games. Fucking fucking good

1:19:02

high. Anyway, now

1:19:05

that he's with Shai and has a place to go that

1:19:07

isn't his mother's house, Rod actually seems to calm down a

1:19:09

bit. He stops taking as

1:19:11

much LSD, maybe even all together

1:19:13

for a few weeks. Stops talking about death all the time.

1:19:16

Stops getting so angry when

1:19:18

his mom, Sondra, calls him, begging him to come

1:19:20

home. But then as Shai's

1:19:22

pregnancy progresses, you know, things change and he gets angry again.

1:19:25

Rod starts to see Shai as a rival, not as

1:19:28

a companion. She had started bragging

1:19:30

to his followers about having him under her thumb, and that

1:19:32

pissed him off. And

1:19:34

when Charity returns from South Dakota, Rod ditches Shai. He

1:19:36

and Charity get back together, leaving Shai on her own.

1:19:40

So much for all her magic. Then to make matters worse, Rod

1:19:43

starts talking about killing her. In Rod's

1:19:45

mind, Shai had tried to topple the social order by

1:19:47

putting herself above him, and Rod felt like she probably

1:19:49

had to die for that transgression. He's taken

1:19:51

his vampire game real seriously. He's full of

1:19:54

asago now. He's threatened to

1:19:56

sacrifice her and her newborn baby to Satan, unless

1:19:58

she moved away. So

1:20:00

what does Shy do? Well, this

1:20:02

great choice maker abandons her baby. Mm-hmm.

1:20:05

She gives her baby boy to her mom in

1:20:07

Tennessee, then goes back to Murray and begs Rod

1:20:09

for forgiveness. What the fuck?

1:20:13

How good was that Vlad the Hyman

1:20:15

Impaler one-eyed undead necromancer staff? He was

1:20:17

packin'! And I'm referring to his dick there,

1:20:19

to be clear. Now baby, free,

1:20:21

Rod, God, and Shy start to fuck again.

1:20:24

And he no longer wants to kill her. Also,

1:20:27

Rod took her back in part because, according

1:20:29

to Jaden, his powerful sire was coming back

1:20:31

from England any day now. And

1:20:34

an all-out Kentucky vampire war is brewing.

1:20:37

These idiots. Now Shy starts

1:20:39

to get scared. Like, she's actually

1:20:41

scared about this vampire war. Rod told

1:20:43

her that to prepare for the war, he had

1:20:46

killed some Goths in Nashville. He

1:20:48

drained them of their blood in preparation for

1:20:50

this upcoming battle. And she thought it was serious. She

1:20:53

thought, I really did that. Maybe did, but I

1:20:55

doubt it. Shy now wanted Rod to leave town with

1:20:57

her. They needed to escape. And

1:20:59

they should join, her idea, a traveling

1:21:01

theater troop. So they could,

1:21:03

you know, escape this vampire battle, and, I don't know, just

1:21:05

travel the world, and she could never see her baby, and

1:21:07

whatnot. What

1:21:09

traveling theater troop would

1:21:11

have actually hired these two

1:21:14

wildly unstable teenagers? I

1:21:16

wish I knew what it was. Ha

1:21:19

ha ha! Hey, Davenport, Iowa!

1:21:22

What are you doing this Friday night? How

1:21:24

about you come down to the out-of-the-box, see some

1:21:27

theater? No spiratus! A

1:21:29

vampire-fied story of a musical!

1:21:33

Ah, let me give you a little preview here. When

1:21:38

you're a vamp, you're a

1:21:41

vamp all the way from your very first

1:21:43

sire to your last Sunday day when you're

1:21:45

a vamp. If

1:21:47

the blood hits the fang, you're coming

1:21:49

to round, you're a big vampire gang,

1:21:51

with your vamp! See

1:21:54

you Friday night, girls and girls! Ha ha! We're

1:21:56

gonna have a great time! So

1:22:02

maybe it's like, you know, maybe it's something like that. Whatever

1:22:05

it was. Rod, I mean, Visago, not

1:22:07

interested. Soon Rod God was

1:22:09

pushing Shai aside again, sleep with her on occasion, but

1:22:12

then telling her that he was having fantasies about cutting her

1:22:14

up and killing her on other occasions. So that's

1:22:16

pretty cool. That's a healthy relationship. One

1:22:18

day Shai returned to see half of the windows in her

1:22:21

trailer busted out. And now she knew that it was

1:22:23

time to get away from Rod. This time for real. He's

1:22:25

out of control. The person who

1:22:27

should have stood up to Rod, his mom, Sandra, not

1:22:29

helpful during all of this.

1:22:31

She'll claim later that she worried about him being a Murray from the

1:22:33

very beginning, knowing he stood out because of his

1:22:35

dark clothes and strange obsessions. And

1:22:38

she is full of shit. If

1:22:41

you were so worried, Sandra, why did you drag him back

1:22:43

there? Why not stay in Florida? It's

1:22:45

not like you moved back to Murray for a fucking great

1:22:47

job. You moved back to the South Side Manor apartments so

1:22:49

you could party, not to pay rent. She

1:22:52

could have tried to find something similar in Florida. You

1:22:54

know, Noah mentioned that she did. She could have at

1:22:56

least tried working on a whole lot of steady

1:22:58

job for once in her fucking life, living in

1:23:00

the studio apartment with Rod, something, anything other than

1:23:02

being a piece of shit, just like Rod's dad.

1:23:05

And again, she may have been sleeping with her son this time.

1:23:09

Sandra will later say she knew that Rod was

1:23:11

on the precipice of being expelled from school for

1:23:13

truancy. She, that he got detention for smoking cigarettes,

1:23:15

using foul language in front of a Mrs. Stone

1:23:17

Cipher. Later he'll get into a,

1:23:19

she doesn't do anything about it. Later he'll

1:23:21

get into a verbal altercation with Mrs. Stone

1:23:23

Cipher. And he'll be expelled from school. The

1:23:26

assistant principal at Callaway High, Dennis Fisher, determined

1:23:29

that Rod will be better served by an

1:23:31

alternative school. By the summer's end, Rod

1:23:34

was telling his mom and others he was just going to get a job in

1:23:36

his GED. He also let Sandra

1:23:38

supposedly bring him to a place called Western Kentucky

1:23:40

Mental Health for a psych eval, but

1:23:42

wouldn't do him any good. He was assigned

1:23:44

to write an essay about drugs, but refused. Sandra

1:23:47

never took him back for any follow ups. Soon

1:23:49

Sandra would file a beyond parental control

1:23:51

report, having gone down to the

1:23:53

administrative offices of the courts in Callaway County.

1:23:56

Sandra was hoping to be freed from any legal

1:23:59

parental responsibility over Rod. on the ground

1:24:01

she was powerless to control him, which she probably

1:24:03

was at this point. And I

1:24:05

should add she might not have been molesting

1:24:07

him. His grandfather also may not have

1:24:09

molested him, maybe not. I

1:24:11

take allegations of this nature very seriously, but Rod clearly

1:24:13

has a hard time processing what is real, what's only

1:24:16

in his head. He for sure

1:24:18

does lie a lot. I mean he's telling

1:24:20

a lot of people he's a legit vampire, which is for sure

1:24:22

not true. He's still alive in

1:24:24

prison right now and not one guard has ever mentioned

1:24:26

him getting burned by sunlight, not having a reflection, being

1:24:28

averse to garlic. He's never turned into

1:24:30

a bat and just flown out of prison. But

1:24:33

with these allegations, ah, as

1:24:36

much of a liar as Rod is, you know Rod's

1:24:38

aunt also testified that

1:24:40

Rod's grandfather molested Sandra.

1:24:44

And I do think based on kind of Rod's

1:24:46

behavior and Sandra's behavior, yeah, there's a good chance

1:24:48

that some real bad shit happened to him. Sandra

1:24:50

told a court-designated juvenile court worker, Jane

1:24:52

Ann Turner, that Rod had been involved with

1:24:55

drugs in Florida, trying to get,

1:24:57

you know, free to print a responsibility, that she thought he

1:24:59

was involved in Satanic cult. She left

1:25:01

out details about her also being involved in the

1:25:03

occult, marrying a guy who was

1:25:05

weighing the Satanic worship, a dude who gave her

1:25:08

some drugs, and she also left out

1:25:10

the part about her, you know, having drawn drugs with Rod

1:25:12

probably for years. A report was filed

1:25:14

with the court, and a meeting was scheduled for Rod

1:25:16

and Sandra. Neither one of them

1:25:18

ever showed. Instead they reconciled. Sandra

1:25:21

moved into a new apartment with more room. Rod

1:25:23

moved back in with her. She allowed Rod to

1:25:25

do the decorating, and he spray-painted pentagrams on the

1:25:27

floors and built altars in the bedrooms. A

1:25:30

lot of stuff going on. She also let him

1:25:32

bring over his vampiric buddies, and they got to do

1:25:34

basically whatever they wanted. She loved

1:25:36

having him and his friends around. She even started

1:25:38

referring to herself as a member of Rod's coven. Dyed

1:25:41

her hair black, started wearing goth clothes. Fuck's

1:25:44

sake. August of 1996,

1:25:46

Rod and Jaden have a fallout. Rod

1:25:49

filed an assault complaint against Jaden. Jaden's thrown

1:25:51

in jail. He'll quickly be released on a

1:25:53

$500 bond, and almost end up

1:25:55

being sentenced to serve six months in county jail, all because

1:25:58

of Rod's sworn statement that claimed Jaden's Jaden

1:26:00

bashed his head against the wall and choked him. In

1:26:02

addition, Jaden ordered to have no contact with Rod

1:26:05

for two years. But when Jaden

1:26:07

is released after his initial short jail stint,

1:26:10

the two boys make up, the charges are dropped,

1:26:13

Rod's not going to testify in their buddies again. These

1:26:16

kids are all over the place. Sonder claimed she

1:26:18

again grew worried about her son by the end of August.

1:26:21

He seemed to be spiraling. He'd always

1:26:23

been into goth fashion, but now he's dressing like

1:26:25

Marilyn Manson, wearing bodysuits, paint his nails black, wearing

1:26:27

eyeliner, face paint, putting his hair up in a

1:26:29

bunch of miniature ponytails, mixing up

1:26:31

a shit ton of drugs. That

1:26:34

August, Sonder contacted the Murray Police Department about

1:26:36

Rod leaving home without permission, then

1:26:39

called the very next day to take back the report, saying

1:26:42

that he just had to fight with his girlfriend. Everything's

1:26:44

fine. I bet the local police in

1:26:46

Murray loved Sonder and Rod. I bet

1:26:48

they never mocked them or bitched about what

1:26:50

a pain in the ass they were. Not

1:26:52

ever. Sonder made another

1:26:54

call to that juvenile court worker, Jane Ann Turner,

1:26:57

in late August, realizing that her son

1:26:59

was being verbally abusive, then canceled her

1:27:01

appointment with Mrs. Turner the next day. The

1:27:03

dynamic duo would finally appear at an appointment in

1:27:06

mid-September where Sonder told Jane Ann that Rod was

1:27:08

carrying around occult books, dropping a shit ton of

1:27:10

LSD, and hurting himself. She

1:27:13

forgot to tell Jane Ann that she was also

1:27:15

fucking around with occult books and using drugs. Jane

1:27:18

Ann recommended rehab, but Sonder refused to sign any

1:27:20

paperwork to send him there. Now she

1:27:22

wants him to stay home with her. Then a

1:27:24

few months later in November, she'll file a

1:27:26

habitual runaway complaint, seemingly ready to press charges

1:27:28

against her son again. However, by that time,

1:27:31

Sonder will be facing serious legal problems of

1:27:33

her own. More on that in a bit.

1:27:36

First, some other disturbing problems Rod is facing.

1:27:38

Rod was called into Sheriff Stan Scott's office early in the

1:27:40

first week of November 1996. Probable

1:27:44

cause for cruelty to animals and criminal

1:27:46

trespassing had been filed by Officer Warren

1:27:48

Hopkins regarding a briefing at the

1:27:50

Callaway County Humane Society. Apparently

1:27:53

some puppies. There had been, this is

1:27:55

rough, quote, mutilated.

1:27:58

Bojangles just started paying attention. this episode for the very first

1:28:00

time. Previously, he was not interested

1:28:03

because he felt like all these people were worthless

1:28:05

fucking nerds who did not deserve any breath spent

1:28:07

telling their melodramatic story. His worth not

1:28:09

mine. Anyway, the Polaroid pictures

1:28:11

of this hideous act were circulating

1:28:13

to the high school cafeteria. Then

1:28:15

Rod's old girlfriend, young woman he sometimes talked

1:28:18

about murdering shy, spoke to the

1:28:20

police and told them that Rod had bragged to her about

1:28:22

doing something at the animal shelter with a knife. By

1:28:25

this time, most of Rod's old vampire friends, minus

1:28:27

Charity, were growing to be quite afraid

1:28:29

of him. He talked too much

1:28:31

about creepy shit. He was threatening to

1:28:33

kill people too much. Rod's pervy, odd mom

1:28:35

weirded them out. The honeymoon

1:28:38

between Murray's Goss crowd and Rod's saga was

1:28:40

quickly wearing off. These other kids were

1:28:42

mostly just laying around, playing

1:28:44

around with vampire stuff. Rod truly seemed to

1:28:46

be an evil bloodsucker, or wanting to be.

1:28:50

So why didn't Charity also bounce? Let's

1:28:52

talk about her for a second. She was

1:28:54

perhaps predestined to be a bit more impressionable than

1:28:56

your average teenage girl. She'd been

1:28:58

raised by a dad who was often gone at work,

1:29:00

leaving her alone with her increasingly dark thoughts, a goth

1:29:03

kid herself. She'd gotten real

1:29:05

into voodoo before meeting Rod, fascinated by the

1:29:07

sacrificial use of blood. Then she fell in love with

1:29:09

Roon. The relationship was, as we've

1:29:11

somewhat covered, very tumultuous. Full of

1:29:13

breakups, incidents of cheating to get back on one

1:29:16

another, recorded in countless letters that Rod bombarded her

1:29:18

with. In these letters, he would promise

1:29:20

her shit like she would always be his queen. He

1:29:22

told her that she was the one pure mortal

1:29:24

on earth that she would be at

1:29:26

his side eternally. He told her that he snuck into her

1:29:28

bedroom to watch her while she slept, even

1:29:31

showing her a key to her own house that she had not

1:29:33

given him. Huge red

1:29:35

flags. But

1:29:37

she was 16, right? Full of

1:29:39

hormones, lonely, melodramatic, craving male

1:29:41

attention, not getting a lot outside of Rod. And

1:29:44

she found all this endearing. But

1:29:47

now she is starting to wonder what the hell is going

1:29:49

on with Rod. Why is everyone else starting to stay away

1:29:51

from him? Why is he seem paranoid lately? The

1:29:54

only person who seemed to offer a clue to what was

1:29:56

going on with Scott, Rod's old friend and

1:29:58

new best friend. Now that Jaden's out. Scott

1:30:00

would tell charity that being an immortal is hard. It's

1:30:05

painful, right? You know, he

1:30:07

and Rod, they're both immortals. He and Rod, they're

1:30:09

just so sick of making

1:30:11

new friends every century, only

1:30:14

to have to surrender them to death. Yeah,

1:30:16

he's really saying stuff like that. Or

1:30:22

maybe, you know, I don't know, Rod has just said, why

1:30:24

is Rod sad though, if

1:30:26

charity is his eternal mate? He feels

1:30:29

very confused about all this. But like I said,

1:30:31

she still loves Rod. So she stays. Back

1:30:33

at the police station, Rod showed up to his

1:30:35

meeting with Sheriff Scott in white theatrical makeup all

1:30:38

over his face with his lips painted

1:30:40

red like he's a fucking clown. And

1:30:42

he's not laughing. Like he's just doing this like it's a normal thing to do.

1:30:45

Like he's the Joker from Batman going to meet the cops.

1:30:48

I'm sure the officers had a real good laugh about all this

1:30:50

once he left, or maybe, you know, when he showed up. Rod

1:30:53

accused the police of picking on him due to his beliefs. He

1:30:56

said the whole town was after him. They kicked him

1:30:58

out of school. They misjudged and mistreated

1:31:00

him. Because what? Because he

1:31:02

wasn't some preppy rich kid. And another

1:31:04

thing, he literally told the police, they should

1:31:06

be happy with him. Because he'd

1:31:09

shown great restraint when it came to

1:31:11

keeping himself in check. He hadn't killed

1:31:13

anyone. So Sheriff was a

1:31:15

bit alarmed and confused by that. Yeah, I bet. Hey,

1:31:17

listen, officers, have I been perfect? No. Have

1:31:21

I maybe committed some petty crimes? Oh, fuck yeah,

1:31:23

I have. But you should thank

1:31:25

me. I haven't murdered

1:31:27

anyone yet, even though I

1:31:29

think about it a lot. You're

1:31:31

welcome. Sheriff

1:31:33

Scott couldn't tell if Rod was a walking time bomb or

1:31:36

just another, you know, kid trying to act tougher. Well,

1:31:39

he did assume Rod was behind the puppy killings, since

1:31:41

he had no hard evidence. Rod had

1:31:43

no criminal record and wasn't going to confess there was

1:31:45

nothing he could do to put Rod behind bars. That'll

1:31:48

come soon enough, though. Out of

1:31:50

the grasp of police for the moment, Rod returns to

1:31:52

charity side where he keeps encouraging her to embrace her

1:31:54

dark side like he's Emperor fucking Palpatine or some shit

1:31:57

or Darth Vader by telling her to cut

1:31:59

her. He also starts doing random

1:32:02

weird shit like shattering ashtrays and lightbulbs around her,

1:32:04

which when she least expects just to try and

1:32:06

scare her, make her flinch. At

1:32:08

one point just to scare her, he sets his own living

1:32:10

room on fire. Oh boy. His

1:32:13

covet outside of a few followers had now all turned their backs

1:32:15

on him, even snubbing him at a

1:32:17

Halloween celebration they were supposed to attend. With

1:32:20

his remaining followers, Rod God keeps

1:32:23

getting weirder. He's talking more and

1:32:25

more about how he was searching now for

1:32:27

telltale signs of past civilizations, looking for evidence

1:32:29

of the cults of the dying gods that

1:32:31

have destroyed the Roman Empire,

1:32:34

and gesticulating about the worship of Osiris, the

1:32:36

judge of the dead, responsible for the fall

1:32:38

of the Egyptian pharaohs. All

1:32:41

the kind of stuff he's saying. He said it was just a

1:32:43

matter of time before he took over the whole fucking universe and

1:32:46

plunged the world into a huge and ruthless war

1:32:48

by taking over the airwaves, TV satellites, and the

1:32:50

internet. Did they mention that Rod

1:32:52

is dropping a ton of acid again? Yeah, he is.

1:32:55

Easy on the acid, Rod. You've really lost

1:32:57

touch with reality. One tub

1:32:59

of acid. Two tubs

1:33:01

of acid. Three, four,

1:33:04

ten, twenty, all the

1:33:06

tubs of acid. When

1:33:10

anyone tried to argue against any of his proclamations, he

1:33:13

would say stuff like, you know, he'll chop their head

1:33:15

off, burn their body. Don't stop mouthing off

1:33:17

to him. November 5th, 1996, more

1:33:19

vampire drama. Shai,

1:33:21

aka April Doden, signs an affidavit with law

1:33:23

officials in Callaway County to complain about an

1:33:25

attack involving Rod Farrell, another kid

1:33:28

named Michael Shafer, and a third kid named Jason

1:33:30

Jones. According to Shai's statement,

1:33:32

the three young men had come

1:33:34

driving up in Jason's car looking for Jaden at her

1:33:36

trailer. Violating

1:33:38

a restraining order Rod had placed on

1:33:41

Jaden that was still in effect, despite

1:33:43

them patching things up shortly

1:33:45

after Rod was granted it. At the

1:33:47

trailer, Rod and Jaden got into a fight, and

1:33:49

then the three boys jumped into Jason Jones' car,

1:33:51

tried to back away over Shai, who was trying

1:33:53

to get the car's plate number, and

1:33:55

the right rear tire went over her foot. She

1:33:58

was hurt, but also relieved that it wasn't a crime. a

1:34:00

whole lot worse. Jaden will back up Shai's

1:34:02

statement to police, by the way. An

1:34:04

arrest warrant served in mid-November 1996, charging

1:34:06

Jason Jones with wanton endangerment of Class D

1:34:08

felony. He was released on $2,500

1:34:10

bail, and then later the charges will be dropped.

1:34:13

That night at Shai's trailer would be the last time Shai would

1:34:15

ever even see Rod. Not long before

1:34:18

that night, did I mention that Rod had begged Jaden to kill

1:34:20

him to chop his head off? Shai

1:34:22

and Jaden shook their heads when he said that, hoping

1:34:24

their old friend would just go get some help. He's

1:34:27

going through a bunch of shit. He needed to be

1:34:29

placed in a psychiatric treatment facility. Switching

1:34:31

over to charity now, guess what? By

1:34:33

mid-November, she's almost positive she's pregnant with

1:34:36

Rod's baby, but doesn't tell anyone. Whatever

1:34:38

doubt she had about Rod's plan to take over the world, now

1:34:40

she tries to squash him, but

1:34:42

she does give Rod an ultimatum. It's her or

1:34:45

the drugs, and Rod chooses

1:34:48

the drugs. They didn't want surprise. She

1:34:50

quickly now starts fooling around with a nice kid from

1:34:52

her neighborhood named Brian to make Rod jealous, but then

1:34:54

stops that because Rod is stalking the two of them

1:34:57

and freaking Brian out like a week

1:34:59

later the two are back together. Life

1:35:01

moving so fast and loose for these uber dramatic

1:35:03

teen vamps. Now charity

1:35:05

comes clean about her pregnancy. Rod not happy, tells

1:35:08

her he's going to jump off the arts building, said

1:35:10

he is not ready for another baby because

1:35:13

get this, he already had a baby with some

1:35:15

girl, Jaden, but the infant was killed in a car

1:35:17

wreck. Who the fuck is Jaden? Not

1:35:20

real, guessing. Sources do not say, seems

1:35:22

like Rod made her up, made up that whole story, but

1:35:26

charity believes it. Hook, line and sinker. She

1:35:28

just keeps hanging around hoping that Rod will wake up, decide to be

1:35:30

a good partner and father. Even lets him

1:35:32

drag her into some more occult

1:35:34

ceremonies he's holding in the boiler room of

1:35:36

the college stadium now. Rod

1:35:38

had set up a small altar there with holy water and

1:35:40

daggers and was leading his coven through

1:35:44

some kind of meditation where

1:35:46

they would all concentrate on time

1:35:49

traveling. Yeah, why not?

1:35:51

Actually, they would concentrate on using glowing

1:35:53

ropes in order to be able to

1:35:55

time travel. Why not? I mean, you

1:35:57

have to concentrate on glowing ropes. If

1:36:00

you ever want to time travel and

1:36:02

hope to access the fourth dimension, there

1:36:07

is a fourth dimension that is known

1:36:09

to man, but not fully understood.

1:36:12

It is known to vampire, and

1:36:14

it is as timeless as infinity.

1:36:18

It lies between our world and

1:36:20

the world of darkness and

1:36:22

fully encompasses the present, past and future.

1:36:26

It is a dimension between science and superstition,

1:36:29

a dimension of those vampires who will amongst us

1:36:32

and constantly fight with one another over

1:36:34

who has the most powerful magic, who

1:36:36

is the real father of the babies they

1:36:39

give away. It is a

1:36:41

dimension that lies just beyond parties, a

1:36:44

dimension where no one ever gets a job and

1:36:46

everyone stays up too late, too often, playing

1:36:48

games like vampire or the masquerade. It

1:36:51

is a dimension I like to call the

1:36:54

pathetic Murray Kentucky Vampires Home. Back

1:36:58

to the story. Also in mid-November,

1:37:00

Rod and a few other kids meet in

1:37:02

the woods behind Hardee's, fucking Hardee's, at

1:37:05

the vampire hotel, where they

1:37:07

can make supernatural things happen, like

1:37:10

making people their puppets through telekinesis, all

1:37:13

powerful vampires, dicking around in the

1:37:15

woods behind Hardee's, probably

1:37:18

after grabbing cheeseburgers and fries and

1:37:20

shakes, like the undead are wont

1:37:22

to do, thinking they are turning people

1:37:24

into puppets, and yet still having their

1:37:26

moms pay their bills. Maybe

1:37:29

they made their moms their puppets. One

1:37:31

of the girls who especially believed in all of this was Charity's

1:37:33

friend Dana Cooper. Unpoppetered at school, Dana

1:37:35

had a reputation for being a goofball, yet

1:37:38

she somehow becomes Rod's trusted new servant,

1:37:42

possibly because she had her own apartment, where

1:37:44

Rod and Scott Anderson could

1:37:46

stay for free, while they planned an upcoming

1:37:48

escape to Florida now. Time

1:37:51

to check back in with the mother of vampires, Sondra, at

1:37:55

some point in early November, while Rod Sago and

1:37:57

his crew are planning a Florida run. Penny

1:37:59

Murphy, Jay-Z, Murphy's mom submitted an affidavit in

1:38:01

Callaway County that Sondra had kissed her son

1:38:03

against his will. Not Jaden, Jaden's

1:38:06

younger brother Jamie, 14 years old. 35

1:38:09

years old, Sondra had mailed a

1:38:11

letter to 14 year old Jamie, writing that she

1:38:13

wanted to fuck him and acknowledging

1:38:15

that she knew he was very young earlier

1:38:18

in the summer of 1996. Maybe

1:38:20

Rod not lying about his mom beat a pedo. June

1:38:23

23rd, she'd mailed him a second

1:38:25

letter asking Jamie again straight up to

1:38:28

let her fuck him. Even sent Jamie a

1:38:30

key to her apartment asking that Jamie come live

1:38:32

with her. Then she sent Jamie

1:38:34

a necklace in another letter writing,

1:38:36

so you can wear it and know you thought about it

1:38:38

and missed a lot. Of

1:38:40

course Rod will end up in prison in

1:38:42

this episode for the rest of his life between

1:38:45

his fucking deadbeat dad and Sondra Von Bat shit.

1:38:47

Dude never had a chance. In

1:38:50

that third letter, Sondra or in a third letter, Sondra

1:38:52

wrote, you may be young, but you are fine.

1:38:54

She wished they could have wild sex

1:38:56

every night. She wrote, I think

1:38:58

about being French kissed and fucked by you all

1:39:00

the time. I hope it doesn't upset you by

1:39:02

my feeling this way. She

1:39:04

assured him that he shouldn't be afraid of sex and that

1:39:06

she would never hurt him or make him feel uncomfortable. She

1:39:09

would even empty out a drawer for him when he

1:39:11

moved in. She added, I'll

1:39:13

wear my blue denim sundress and we could kiss

1:39:15

for a while. Then while we're kissing,

1:39:18

I'll unzip your pants and go down and lick you and

1:39:20

suck you until you're just about to

1:39:22

get off my mouth. Then I'll pull my dress up

1:39:24

and move my panties over and guide you inside me.

1:39:27

Rod will wonder later if she had been pretending

1:39:29

to be into his vampire shit just so she could try

1:39:31

and fuck his teenage friends. Yeah, she's

1:39:33

a piece of shit. I'll be honest,

1:39:36

when I was 14, this

1:39:38

is not good. This is not good. When I was

1:39:41

14, I would have definitely fucked a hot neighbor lady,

1:39:43

Paula, who was also about 35. If she

1:39:45

would have shown any, if she would have written

1:39:48

me that letter, holy shit, I would have been

1:39:50

sprinty. I would have like, maybe like a cartoon

1:39:52

just fucking smashed through the wall and just been

1:39:54

straight over into her place. But

1:39:56

that doesn't mean that what Sondra is doing here

1:39:58

isn't deplorable and heinous. What

1:40:01

she's doing is just as gross as a 35-year-old man trying

1:40:03

to fuck a 14-year-old girl. She's a

1:40:05

deranged predator. Terrible excuse for a

1:40:07

mom. November 12, 1996,

1:40:09

Sandra Gibson charged with soliciting rape and soliciting

1:40:12

sodomy. She'd be appointed a

1:40:14

public defender, Dennis Lourdy. In response

1:40:16

to all this, Jaden and Rod decide to meet up

1:40:18

in a tucked away rural cemetery. Always

1:40:21

a cemetery, with these dipshits. And

1:40:23

yes, I know that Rod has just gotten into a fight

1:40:25

with Jaden at Shai's trailer a week earlier or so, but

1:40:27

now I guess they're cool again. Nonstop

1:40:30

drama. No one in this episode is stable. Here

1:40:33

in the cemetery, Rod will tell Jaden that it

1:40:35

was Sandra who forced him to sign the affidavit

1:40:37

against him, saying that Jaden hit him, even though

1:40:39

he didn't, because she was jealous of Rod and

1:40:41

Jaden's close relationship. I don't doubt it.

1:40:44

She's toxic as shit. Rod and Jaden decide

1:40:46

that enough is enough. They're gonna never

1:40:48

let somebody significantly older than them into their coven

1:40:50

ever again. They're two very

1:40:52

powerful vampires. They're fucking sick of

1:40:54

Rod's mom, trying to keep them separated and weak.

1:40:56

They should combine their covens. They

1:40:59

also discussed killing Sandra and her

1:41:01

father, Rod's pedo papa, Harold, but

1:41:04

abandoned that idea. Instead, Rod said he wanted

1:41:06

to leave town. He proposed they both

1:41:08

moved to Eustace, Florida, where he reassured Jaden

1:41:10

he had a ton of followers, like

1:41:13

an entire army of super

1:41:15

cool, very powerful vampires. Even

1:41:18

though Jaden had supposedly not sired Rod until

1:41:20

after he left Eustace, but whatever. No

1:41:23

need to get hung up on important details. Rod is

1:41:25

high a lot of the time, and he's been alive for centuries.

1:41:27

And things get mixed up. Jaden was

1:41:29

not interested in going to Florida. He had just

1:41:31

graduated high school, had plans to attend college. He wanted

1:41:33

to study drama, begin an acting career. He's not as

1:41:35

into this stuff as much as it seems in the

1:41:38

moment. He also kept

1:41:40

remembering that Rod is fucking crazy. Still

1:41:42

he later said he played along, telling Rod he'd go

1:41:44

with him in his Florida group to Baton Rouge, Louisiana

1:41:46

for whatever reason. Louisiana just, you know,

1:41:48

it's a place to be for a lot

1:41:51

of modern vampires. It's the main vampire state in the

1:41:53

United States. A few days

1:41:55

later, he really decides not to go, when

1:41:57

during another graveyard meetup, he watches Rod out

1:41:59

of nowhere. kill a stray kitten. Sources

1:42:02

do not say how, I'm guessing it was gruesome. Rod

1:42:05

still 16, killing numerous small animals, starting at

1:42:07

least one fire, talking about death all the

1:42:09

time, super delusional, infatuated with the evil aspects

1:42:11

of vampirism, dude was on his

1:42:14

way towards becoming a serial killer. Or

1:42:17

cult leader, or both. Or both. Jaden

1:42:19

officially ends up a friendship now after the kitten incident. I

1:42:22

will not be moving anywhere with Rod. Following

1:42:24

their partying, Rod gets more destructive. Now the

1:42:26

young man starts making Molotov cocktails in his

1:42:29

bedroom. More fire. Has plans

1:42:31

to blow up the old Salem cemetery with the help

1:42:33

of another friend, Peter Reynolds. Deputies

1:42:35

at Calaway County PD hear about this plan, even

1:42:37

have a stakeout to make sure they don't

1:42:39

fucking set the cemetery on fire. Nothing

1:42:41

happens. November 22nd, 1996, Friday

1:42:45

Rod leaves Murray, Kentucky now with

1:42:47

Scott Anderson age 16, Charity Kesey

1:42:49

age 16, and Charity's

1:42:51

friend Dana Cooper 19 at around 11

1:42:53

p.m. Guests in the Murray PD,

1:42:56

if they heard about this, we're so glad to

1:42:58

see them go. Their plan

1:43:00

was simple. Pick up Heather Wendorf in Florida, head

1:43:02

from there to New Orleans, obvious

1:43:04

center of vampiric activity in the US. After

1:43:07

kicking in New Orleans for a bit, they would

1:43:09

go on to Cairo and Rome, a couple of

1:43:11

global vampiric hot spots, Abi, and then Rod would

1:43:13

show them what he now believed to be his

1:43:15

ancestral castle in Wales, and they would take it

1:43:17

back. 100%. I mean, I mean, this is

1:43:20

okay, take all your emotion out of it. Objectively,

1:43:22

this is a great plan. It's a great plan. It has to

1:43:24

work out. It has to. I mean, have they

1:43:27

bought their flights yet? No. Do

1:43:29

they have money to buy those flights? No. Do

1:43:31

they even know how to buy flights? I'm

1:43:33

gonna say no. Have any of them ever been on a flight? Do

1:43:36

they even have a postal stay in New

1:43:38

Orleans? They don't. Do they literally

1:43:40

know a single person who lives in

1:43:42

Cairo or Rome, or have been to

1:43:45

Cairo or Rome ever, or could even

1:43:47

point to a map with certainty where

1:43:49

Cairo and Rome is? Highly unlikely. Are

1:43:51

all of them even aware that Wales is

1:43:53

in the UK, Or that the

1:43:56

name Wales has literally nothing to do with large swimming mammals

1:43:58

with blowholes and actually is derived from the. The old

1:44:00

English word for foreigners? A Fucking. I'm actually not.

1:44:02

But you know what? They're. With

1:44:04

Rod Dog God Ra Ra Sahgal

1:44:06

ten years of and parks You

1:44:08

fucking teleport them with athletics so

1:44:10

there's your best. Like a really

1:44:12

big bats in a climb up

1:44:14

on top of and will fly

1:44:16

across the Atlantic. Easy to pc

1:44:18

one both T claims on to

1:44:20

rob that so goth kids climb

1:44:23

onto rug but ah ah ah.

1:44:25

And. With before the for floor. Rotted

1:44:27

Promises has will discuss emptier bride once he rescued

1:44:29

her from her pieces him. As gas

1:44:32

pumps. His. Pockets guess he's of

1:44:34

origin and he super stoked about his

1:44:36

bride. promise. Has a family was

1:44:38

not for the record? These? No no. We talked about

1:44:40

loving earlier. Scott even thought so that they were loving.

1:44:43

Or when he taught that are on the phone who never complained

1:44:45

about fight with the parents. But he didn't

1:44:47

in front Rod about this, a point he didn't confront

1:44:49

right about anything. To layer say after

1:44:51

his arrest truly believed his friend was immortal. The

1:44:55

city grants got superpowers and once you he was this

1:44:57

time you know believe in the you the moral. Immortal

1:45:01

vampire who also writes really city let a

1:45:03

letters and a letter to Heather before they

1:45:05

left Scott roots. as

1:45:07

the success of this is of

1:45:10

those starts. As you

1:45:12

know, I'm a thousand and seventeen.

1:45:14

Your schools. As awesome for sense

1:45:16

as you know. I was thousand and seventeen

1:45:18

years old. My actual birthplace

1:45:20

of Scotland's. Sometimes. I talk in

1:45:22

a Scottish accent. I would taste

1:45:25

for bagpipes. I Like or Bonnie Little

1:45:27

Tunes. My actual breed of

1:45:29

empire is called a damn bar. In

1:45:33

his second vampire. And other words,

1:45:35

I beat up blood and souls of those who

1:45:38

I'd choose to kill. But I've until the Person

1:45:40

almost two years. I. Have a sword fighter.

1:45:44

Command deception and hatred. but I don't

1:45:46

like lot of people. I

1:45:49

show no mercy to men, but you are not human.

1:45:51

I take it. So. You're says. oh

1:45:54

wow okay ah and same

1:45:56

sense of of that he

1:45:59

writes he's of deception. Three

1:46:01

words later, but I like a lot of people. Oh,

1:46:04

poor Scott. I think part of the reason

1:46:06

that Scott followed Rod was because he didn't have the

1:46:08

sharpest fangs in the coven. Love

1:46:11

that he's a vampire. Are you a vampire? Kind

1:46:13

of? I'm a I'm a vampire. Do

1:46:16

you speak that up? No, you

1:46:18

call me a liar. Don't don't make

1:46:20

me psychically feed off you as vampires do. Again,

1:46:23

I think of what we do in the shadows. So

1:46:26

what about Heather? Did any of this freak her out? Apparently

1:46:28

not. She's eagerly awaiting these

1:46:30

dipshits arrival. For the past several months,

1:46:32

she spent a lot of time talking long distance of

1:46:34

Rod. He actually racked up over $2,000

1:46:37

in long distance charges that will show up on

1:46:39

his mom's bill. Good. When

1:46:41

not talking to Rod, Heather had been unraveling

1:46:44

spending too much time alone in her bedroom, very moody

1:46:46

teen her mental state is rocky. She

1:46:48

spent most of her time wishing she was dead on

1:46:50

the floor crying, cutting herself hoping for some release from

1:46:52

her despair to bad she didn't get therapy. Like

1:46:55

Rod and Scott, she got lost in an elaborate

1:46:57

escapist dream world thinking that she was part animal

1:47:00

part human that she needed to

1:47:02

surrender to her animal side if she ever wanted to really

1:47:04

be happy. Sure, she lived in

1:47:06

a lovely house with two chill kind parents who loved the shit

1:47:08

out of her and just wanted her to express herself. Yes,

1:47:11

she had her own phone line had her own CD player,

1:47:13

own BCR and TV in a room and

1:47:15

a room has been a big ass house with a custom

1:47:17

in ground pool. But she was deeply

1:47:19

unhappy. Her friend Janine similarly

1:47:21

unhappy. Janine was dating her

1:47:24

game master Bob love

1:47:27

but her life still felt empty. She wasn't

1:47:29

interested in witchcraft. The only thing she wanted was

1:47:31

death. She resented her parents for

1:47:33

switching her out of the used to school system taking

1:47:35

her away from best friend Heather and for

1:47:37

putting her in Leesburg high, which he hated. Her

1:47:40

only respite was getting to walk around town with

1:47:42

Heather while they dressed up in Victorian lace from

1:47:45

vintage clothing shops and pretended they were in 19th

1:47:47

century England where they both

1:47:49

thought they belonged due to their obsession with role

1:47:51

playing. But playing dress have

1:47:53

only provided her you know with a temporary relief

1:47:55

from her mental anguish. Suicide

1:47:57

sadly becoming more tempting thought each day she wrote her

1:48:00

and things only got worse when Suzanne Leclerc, Janine's

1:48:03

mom, found the disturbing letters Rod had sent her

1:48:05

and placed a call to Ruth Lindorf who promised

1:48:07

to keep an eye on the girls. The

1:48:09

Lindorfs were also worried about their oldest daughter,

1:48:11

17-year-old Jennifer, who was now spending a lot

1:48:14

of time with a 21-year-old who had totaled

1:48:16

her car. Fucking teenagers! I feel this episode

1:48:18

can be sent to people as a form

1:48:20

of birth control. Do you really?

1:48:22

Do you really want to deal with this shit? Maybe

1:48:24

we don't have kids. So thankful neither

1:48:27

one of my kids is anywhere near this dramatic. Janine

1:48:30

will end up drawing Rod a map of the

1:48:32

Lindorf house, explaining that it would be easier for

1:48:34

him to pick her up from there since her

1:48:36

mom is being such a total bitch about everything

1:48:38

and won't let her run off with fucking brothers!

1:48:42

To impress him, she made the map elaborate,

1:48:44

including diagrams to the furnishings in every room,

1:48:46

specific instructions, how to get to Heather's window.

1:48:49

Meanwhile, Heather chomped at the bit, so ready

1:48:51

to leave home, she felt sick

1:48:53

of her hometown, sick of her parents trying to make her

1:48:56

into some all-American teenager, or you know, keep her safe, and

1:48:58

was dying for Rod to pick her up. November

1:49:01

25th, Monday morning, Heather skips

1:49:03

her AP art class to meet up with

1:49:05

who else but Rod Farrell and his cousin.

1:49:08

The group had arrived in Eustace, Florida in Scott Anderson's

1:49:11

Buick and we're now at a nearby cemetery,

1:49:13

of course, performing a blood ritual, why not? Rod

1:49:16

had called Janine the night before, wanting to

1:49:18

meet up at Lake Seneca Road, and Janine had

1:49:20

gone. Rod kissed, flirted

1:49:23

with her, told her she had a whole

1:49:25

new life waiting for her, but Janine got cold feet

1:49:27

about running away. He said she needed time

1:49:29

to think. Well, Rod didn't want to wait. He's

1:49:32

been waiting fucking hundreds of years already! He

1:49:34

said now or never. He said Heather would be

1:49:36

meeting with him the next day, and then it was off to New Orleans for

1:49:38

all of them. If Janine wasn't going to go, all right, he's going to leave

1:49:40

her home. Janine wanted to think again. That's

1:49:43

what he told him. She already knew, now

1:49:45

that he was really there in the flesh, that the reality

1:49:47

about all this didn't match her fantasy, and she was staying

1:49:50

put. She had talked to him on

1:49:52

the phone but hadn't realized being around him in person would feel

1:49:54

like being around a stranger. Plus, he seemed fucking

1:49:56

scary. Next day, Rod meets up

1:49:58

with Heather. unlike Janine

1:50:00

pumped to see him overjoyed. She

1:50:03

drank his blood from his arm freely, cut her own arm

1:50:05

and returned for him to drink some.

1:50:08

She was excited that she would soon be made into a vampire.

1:50:11

She did have to give Rod some bad news though. Janine called

1:50:13

her that morning, said that she realized she

1:50:16

didn't actually love Rod and didn't want to go on the road trip. Teenagers

1:50:18

so fickle. One minute they're

1:50:20

ready to teleport to Cairo with an immortal

1:50:23

powerful vampire. The next they want to stay

1:50:25

in Florida with their parents and keep dating their game master Bob. Rod

1:50:29

told Heather this was fine with

1:50:31

him. He didn't need Janine. Heather

1:50:33

was the missing link to overthrowing God.

1:50:35

He told her that. Did I mention that

1:50:37

Rod needed Heather to overthrow God? Sorry if I

1:50:40

forgot to mention that very important fact. At

1:50:42

the same time Rod is talking with Heather.

1:50:44

Another Wendorf is cutting classes at school, Jennifer.

1:50:47

She'd been hiding out at her 21 year old boyfriend's house but

1:50:50

then just before three o'clock her mom shows up. But

1:50:52

Ruth not even mad, just wants to know if Jennifer had

1:50:54

seen Heather. Jennifer reports she had not

1:50:56

seen her sister. Meanwhile Rod has now

1:50:58

convinced Heather that she was born evil. Take

1:51:02

her to the edge of eternity and that it was her destiny

1:51:04

to go with him. But first Heather said

1:51:06

she needed to go back home and gather up her shit and

1:51:09

hopefully snag you know some cash for gas money and

1:51:11

truck stop snacks you know and whatnot. Rod

1:51:13

told her they would pick her up tomorrow and then

1:51:15

they would be off. They would

1:51:17

first stock up on beef jerky,

1:51:19

Mountain Dew, Cheetos and Hostess Ding-Dongs

1:51:21

and then the edge of eternity.

1:51:25

Later that night just after dark Rod called

1:51:27

again. Now

1:51:29

insisting that Heather packed her bags immediately. Their beauty got

1:51:31

in a flat tire and they were

1:51:34

in a stolen vehicle now and on the run from

1:51:36

the police. Which they weren't. This is weird that he said that. He's just trying to

1:51:38

get her to hurry. Heather's not into

1:51:40

this. She didn't want to run. She didn't want to run

1:51:42

off right that second. She asked Rod to meet her a

1:51:44

few yards from her house down at the end of Green

1:51:46

Tree Lane where they can talk about things in person. She

1:51:49

left her house in her cutoffs, fishnets and combat

1:51:51

boots. Soon she spied the glowing tips of cigarettes.

1:51:53

Saw the Buick. The

1:51:56

boys are standing outside, Charity and Dana in the

1:51:58

backseat. Heather Told these. The about

1:52:00

see the say goodbye or parents and the meantime Scott

1:52:02

and Rod said find it was pick up to ne.

1:52:05

Did. You think name was a input yardage of.

1:52:08

Early she changed her mind or Rod was

1:52:10

line about her tenure. My or Rod was

1:52:12

confused because he would As you would say

1:52:14

later he had as he was a later

1:52:16

taken eight to ten hits of acid ethnicities.

1:52:19

Ah said what of went to go grabs

1:52:22

name. Who? maybe or maybe not.

1:52:24

Ah added now agree to go Heather a

1:52:26

Better House or she pulled together some her

1:52:28

favorite jeans you're in t shirts together, teddy

1:52:30

bear for sketchbooks or than colds Need to

1:52:32

talk but he was busy. To seven

1:52:34

birthday celebrations, a family. Fucking.

1:52:37

Suck at inhabiting the story in the kitchen.

1:52:39

Other slips: Fifty bucks Edward As while it.

1:52:41

Might. Even stamps. Need gas and truck stop

1:52:43

snacks? in the living room or dad

1:52:46

rich guy at his old high school yearbook out. He.

1:52:48

Showed has a couple of friends, had a listen

1:52:50

for twelve minutes and under what was your mom

1:52:52

and her bedroom or mama's was a lifetime movie.

1:52:54

Heather snuggled into bed with her mom and endured

1:52:57

a commercial breaks that make a phone call to

1:52:59

a boyfriend German telling him that she would lead

1:53:01

him. Oh yes else as was. That

1:53:04

he stuck out note in her bathroom telling her family

1:53:06

could buy this What? this is what her know read.

1:53:09

Here Mom, Dad and Jenny. I

1:53:12

don't have much time but I must say that

1:53:14

I love you all so very much. I'm leaving

1:53:16

for good but I don't want you to worry

1:53:18

about me because I will be fine. I had

1:53:20

to go to Need because you need someone to

1:53:22

look after her. Please. Don't try to

1:53:24

find us. Just know that I'll miss you and

1:53:26

always love you. Had. A. Busy.

1:53:29

As expect, Her

1:53:31

loving parents to read that and not look

1:53:33

for her. Or call the police. I

1:53:36

know these turtles are young, but the

1:53:38

level of immaturity is astounding. Amongst others,

1:53:40

the team. Not. Seven. Have

1:53:43

someone who was in high school and visit and

1:53:45

parents reading this Note: Quite a

1:53:47

bit. How does other and then

1:53:49

just what? To turn into a dullard?

1:53:52

say if. She's okay,

1:53:54

Now we'll we'll need to worry about her

1:53:56

suicide. As he said, South Seas is

1:53:59

he's doing the right. You need

1:54:01

someone to look after her? For

1:54:03

the rest of her life, I guess. And Heather

1:54:05

needs to focus on watching her twenty four Seven,

1:54:07

Three, Sixty five, Forever pellets. She'll have to focus

1:54:10

so much so never have time to ever talk

1:54:12

to us again. Not even for thirty seconds on

1:54:14

the phone. One time. And. That's okay

1:54:16

baby. I'm. Proud of her. We.

1:54:18

Read to Rights. Place. To

1:54:21

write. Ah soon had a

1:54:23

was get into the stones are. hordes,

1:54:25

The accede not so in Carson

1:54:27

to some be built with shared

1:54:29

indiana then they feel disappointed. Jammies

1:54:31

us. Has or wanted to talk to him

1:54:33

once. Warm person, Or jeremy ask where

1:54:35

Rod was. Heather report that he and Scott

1:54:37

went to pick up Zinni. Are

1:54:39

they didn't Heather know as Jeremy to come with

1:54:41

him? Bob. Because he wasn't completely

1:54:44

bug and saints, he turns around. While.

1:54:46

They talk charities ends up cross your arms. Intel tells

1:54:48

them they have to go any go Grab Rod and

1:54:51

Scott. And. Where are they? Whether or not

1:54:53

picking up to any another change in plans or maybe

1:54:55

that was never the plan. Or the

1:54:57

plan they had I think was mostly about change

1:54:59

the plant. As often as possible is

1:55:01

good like swatting cats season a laser

1:55:03

pointer. All. Over the place. To

1:55:06

live in life, fall and one impulse or

1:55:08

after another are Rod Scott now hidden in

1:55:10

the woods is behind Heather's They watch the

1:55:12

be would pull away and approach the house.

1:55:14

And. Alarm system went off. Then. They

1:55:17

realized they were posted the wrong house. They

1:55:19

were not. The woods behind Heather cells are

1:55:21

in the different woods or down the street.

1:55:24

They're idiots. Again, I think of what

1:55:26

we do in the shadows. These. Are the most

1:55:28

incompetent, bumbling, ancient immortal wise vampires ever?

1:55:31

Now. The scary to the darkness down Heather's

1:55:33

else Rod for the realized that the garage

1:55:35

doors unlocked Tell started as it is walking

1:55:38

like they own the place. Rod will take

1:55:40

the dad Scott what's has the mom what

1:55:42

the hell are they doing. The.

1:55:44

Already have had. Why are they going

1:55:46

to do something to her parents modulator

1:55:48

to investigators? You don't even really know

1:55:50

why. Decided to do it. He.

1:55:53

Said he. Had thought about it. He thought about

1:55:55

maybe sell them for a long while and then he

1:55:57

decided, you know what? Fuck it, Why not? and

1:55:59

also He wanted to steal a car from them and

1:56:02

figured they would be less likely to report it missing if they were you

1:56:04

know dead Scott held a wooden

1:56:06

club. They looked around the garage found a crowbar that

1:56:08

Rod grabbed Perfect for beating

1:56:10

up Heather's parents then they could grab the

1:56:12

car keys and get out They waltz down

1:56:14

the hallway towards the family room catches glimpses of the

1:56:17

TV reflected into the windows Rick was fast asleep on

1:56:19

a couch So Scott and Rod slipped by him cut

1:56:21

the phone cords in the back bedrooms Then

1:56:23

Rick Wendor Wendor briefly awoke to a sharp

1:56:26

blow to the head from a crowbar before

1:56:28

losing consciousness Now Rod had

1:56:30

a decision to make he will later say I Really

1:56:33

have no idea where the notion came from but Scott and I just

1:56:35

decided to kill him So that's what we did in

1:56:38

a childish manner Scott and I am viciously

1:56:40

danced around his body before he was dead

1:56:43

After that first blow after some ambitious

1:56:45

dancing Whatever that is Rod kept beating the 49

1:56:47

year old man just to make sure he was

1:56:49

dead Then Rod took the crowbar stabbed

1:56:51

him to the chest. He now grabbed

1:56:53

Rick's keys and his discover card Scott

1:56:55

frozen now seemed to realize he was in the middle of a

1:56:57

bloodbath Maybe taking some acid too

1:57:00

that day and now is where enough sources don't say While

1:57:02

the fucked up reality of what was happening starts to think

1:57:04

it was Scott Rod is already hunting down his next victim

1:57:07

Ruth is freshly showered in her blue bathrobe hot

1:57:09

cup of coffee in her hands in the kitchen

1:57:12

Slowly she sees two blood-covered vampires

1:57:14

approach and the crowbar She

1:57:16

threw her cup of coffee at Rod which did not hurt

1:57:18

him but didn't rage him He lunged at

1:57:21

her Ruth grabbed scratch his face with her fingernails

1:57:23

and attempt to defend herself as Scott stood next

1:57:25

to them Both finally doing nothing with

1:57:27

a karate kick Rod knocks Ruth to the ground

1:57:29

then starts beating her with the crowbar Rod

1:57:32

struck her hard over and over and over hitting

1:57:34

her in the head again and again until her

1:57:36

skull was little more than a bloody mess Rod

1:57:39

didn't seem fazed at all by what he

1:57:41

had just done He told Scott to pill for

1:57:43

the master bedroom for cash Then just

1:57:45

for funsies Rod goes back uses a cigarette

1:57:47

to burn a V into Rick's chest The

1:57:50

V was feral symbol Visago Which

1:57:53

he accompanied with a dot for each person he considered to be a

1:57:55

vampire in his cult after leaving his calling

1:57:57

card I suppose Rod grabbed Rod grabbed

1:57:59

the keys to the Explorer,

1:58:01

ripped off his blood spattered shirt, cleaned

1:58:03

off his crowbar. Minutes later, the

1:58:06

two young men were at a gas station washing up while

1:58:08

their bloody clothes burned in the Florida woods. Then

1:58:10

they met back up with the Buick. Heather noticed

1:58:12

that her friends were driving her parents' car. She

1:58:15

was confused. Nobody had said anything about

1:58:17

stealing the Explorer, especially her parents' Explorer.

1:58:22

Heather realized that Rod must have tied her parents up or

1:58:24

hurt them, like he was always talking about doing to pretty

1:58:26

much whoever. Heather told Charity

1:58:28

to flash the Buick's bride to the Explorer, telling

1:58:30

it to pull over, but the Explorer was racing,

1:58:32

rushing to the floor tonight. Eventually, they did manage

1:58:34

to flag Rod down. Back

1:58:36

at the house, the Windorfs' two dogs, Bichon and

1:58:38

Jake, had already discovered their parents.

1:58:40

Both barked furiously, their fur turning red as they

1:58:43

tried to revive them. So sad. Heather's

1:58:46

sister, Jennifer, gets home 10.30 p.m., back

1:58:48

from her job at the grocery store. She noticed

1:58:50

that the Explorer was gone, but figured her dad had

1:58:53

just gone out to pick up Heather somewhere. Heather

1:58:55

kept her head down as she moved to the house. It was quiet. She

1:58:57

was actually out a little bit past curfew, went to

1:58:59

her bedroom, without seeing her parents. Soon,

1:59:02

she wanted a snack. As

1:59:04

she walked to the kitchen, she noticed a trail of blood in the

1:59:06

ground. Shrieking, she ran into the kitchen,

1:59:08

calling for her mom, only to find her mom's dead

1:59:10

body on the floor. Still shrieking, she

1:59:12

runs back in the living room, calling for her dad,

1:59:14

finding a gory, bloody mess. What a fucking

1:59:16

nightmare. She calls her boyfriend, Tony, now on her

1:59:19

cell phone, screaming so loudly she had started to hyperventilate,

1:59:21

and then calls 911. Poor

1:59:23

kid. Meanwhile, the Buick and the Explorer

1:59:25

are pulled up next to each other on a remote highway.

1:59:28

Heather wasn't getting any answers about her parents. Instead,

1:59:30

she watched the boys switch the car's license plates.

1:59:33

Heather did see Rod whisper something to Charity, and now

1:59:35

Heather hounded her. What were they talking about? What

1:59:38

was going on? Finally, Charity yelled at

1:59:40

her to shut up. Rod had done something, and she

1:59:42

needed to think. Charity and the others

1:59:44

continued to refuse to answer all her questions. Nobody

1:59:46

would even tell her why they hadn't decided to get Janine

1:59:48

after all. And once they started

1:59:50

driving, she noticed they were headed east, away

1:59:52

from New Orleans. Meanwhile, Janine tells

1:59:54

her mom, Suzanne, that she's worried about Heather.

1:59:57

She was supposed to meet up with Heather, but says Heather never showed up.

2:00:00

Now Janine's worried that her friend has run away

2:00:02

with Rod Farrell. When the

2:00:04

Wendorf's don't answer their phones, Suzanne gets even more

2:00:06

concerned and heads over. She's stunned

2:00:08

to find ambulances, police vehicles, all kinds of shining

2:00:11

lights flooding the streets. She finds

2:00:13

a detective, tells him about Heather's plan to

2:00:15

run away. The detective, very

2:00:17

interested, asks to speak with Janine so

2:00:19

Suzanne heads back home to grab her. While

2:00:22

she does that, detectives and forensics experts

2:00:24

begin to search through clots of blood,

2:00:26

mangled brain tissue, shredded bone. They would

2:00:28

end up collecting over 100 fingerprints. Detectives

2:00:32

interviewed Heather's friends, kept hearing the same word over

2:00:34

and over like they're calling people, right? You know,

2:00:36

the same word they keep hearing is dorks. I

2:00:38

mean vampires. They quickly learned from

2:00:40

Jeremy Huber that Heather run off with a kid

2:00:42

who used to live in the area who told everybody

2:00:44

he was a vampire, Roderick Farrell.

2:00:47

Janine Leclerc also, of course, told them

2:00:49

this. Less than 12 hours

2:00:51

after the murders, an all-points bulletin goes over the

2:00:54

wires and also before daybreak on the 26th, Florida

2:00:56

law enforcement has sent a helicopter and a team

2:00:58

of patrol cars in search of that Ford Explorer.

2:01:02

Early November 26, 1996,

2:01:04

Rod tells his coven to ditch the Buick just

2:01:06

a few miles past Sanford. He

2:01:08

ordered Dana to leave her bags in the woods. She

2:01:10

had about seven, to leave half of them. Heather,

2:01:13

however, didn't want to leave the Buick. She didn't want to be

2:01:15

found in her parents' car because they would be really mad at her. That

2:01:18

was when charity spilled the beans. Don't worry

2:01:20

about it, Heather. Your parents are already dead. Heather

2:01:23

doesn't believe her. She knows that Rod makes

2:01:25

stuff up, maybe just trying to scare her. She

2:01:27

gets into her parents' Explorer and for the next

2:01:29

few hours, the SUV barrels down the interstate, now

2:01:31

heading west as they approach the Florida panhandle. Meanwhile,

2:01:34

that day, Dr. Laura Hare would perform the

2:01:37

initial autopsies of Rick and Ruth. She'd

2:01:39

been told Rick's head looked like hamburger meat,

2:01:42

seen even more horrible than she could have

2:01:45

imagined. There were 56 separate bloodstains, a tooth

2:01:47

knocked out of Rick's mouth, bone fragments in

2:01:49

the dining room, all kinds of gore. Rick

2:01:52

suffered from 22 chop wounds, mostly

2:01:54

skull fractures and brain lacerations, causing

2:01:56

his death. Skin samples

2:01:58

were taken from underneath Ruth's fingernail. She had

2:02:00

a cut on her lower right arm, laceration around

2:02:02

one knuckle. She'd been struck 21 times, 16

2:02:06

times to the head. Her brainstem had

2:02:08

been lacerated, cleaned through. She

2:02:10

was nearly decapitated. My God.

2:02:12

Back with the vampires now. The group slept

2:02:14

overnight off a highway near Tallahassee, heading

2:02:17

to Walmart early in the morning of the 27th to

2:02:19

buy some snacks. Rod also

2:02:21

picked up a large honey knife, paid for it

2:02:23

with Rick Windorf's Discover card. Dana

2:02:26

will use the card again to refuel in Tallahassee. Heather

2:02:28

now feels like a hostage. If Rod had

2:02:31

really killed her parents, as she was starting to suspect, he

2:02:33

could kill her soon as well. Then

2:02:35

after a couple of hours, the explorer runs

2:02:37

out of gas. Geniuses!

2:02:40

They have money. They're on the run

2:02:42

from the law for a double homicide, but they don't

2:02:44

put enough gas in the fucking escape vehicle. Dumbest

2:02:47

vampires ever. Rick's cell phone

2:02:49

was in the glove compartment. Rod grabbed it, promising he

2:02:51

would walk to the nearest gas station and be back

2:02:53

soon. As he walks, Dana, his

2:02:55

assistant, walking with him, he

2:02:58

calls Harold Gibson, his grandpa. Rod

2:03:00

admits he's driving a stolen vehicle, then laughs when

2:03:03

his grandpa suggests he turns himself in. Then

2:03:05

he pretends like his signal is breaking up and ends the call. Okay,

2:03:08

cool. Soon a cop will pull

2:03:10

up behind the explorer. At that

2:03:12

moment, Rod and Dana return with gas, and Rod sweet-talked

2:03:14

the officer, getting him to leave without ever showing a

2:03:16

driver's license. Probably used some vampire

2:03:18

magic to mess with his mind, or

2:03:21

at least convinced himself that's what he did and told his

2:03:23

coven. That actually was kind

2:03:25

of impressive. I'll give him that. As they now drive

2:03:27

again, Rod talked about New Orleans as though he had

2:03:29

lived there for centuries, saying he'd been there back in

2:03:31

the 1700s, lived in the French Quarter, interacted

2:03:34

with the demons, you know, voodoo priestesses,

2:03:36

ghouls, at tracks. Heather

2:03:38

noticed that this story didn't match up with the backstory he

2:03:41

had told her about growing up in Europe, but you know,

2:03:43

whatever. His story's always changing. She's

2:03:46

a little more worried about her, you know, parents being

2:03:48

probably dead than about Rod's backstory right now. She

2:03:51

still held on to some hope their parents were alive. Sometimes

2:03:53

Rod would speak about them as if they were other times,

2:03:56

you know, as if they weren't. Heather

2:03:59

hoped obviously to do it. were or at least said so,

2:04:01

she had definitely written numerous letters telling him over the

2:04:03

past year or so in no uncertain

2:04:05

terms that she wished her parents were dead. And

2:04:08

there are people online still to this day pissed

2:04:10

that she didn't go to prison for a long, long

2:04:13

time for unleashing Rod on her folks. Was

2:04:15

that just teenage melodrama or did she actually want

2:04:17

Rod to kill them? Only she

2:04:20

knows the truth and she'll probably never

2:04:22

admit it if the truth is that she did want them

2:04:24

dead. Soon they do make it to New Orleans. There

2:04:26

they break into some houses that Rod claimed

2:04:28

were once owned by ancient vampires, look

2:04:33

over places for cash, food and weapons. Charity

2:04:36

would also call her mom for money, tipping authorities off

2:04:38

as to where they were. Also

2:04:40

in a French Quarter alleyway, Rod will demand

2:04:43

that Scott, whom he still resented for not

2:04:45

helping any murders, to perform for his

2:04:47

coven. Ask Scott to pretend to be

2:04:49

a member of the nobility in France and describe how his life was

2:04:51

when he first made it to New Orleans. Scott

2:04:54

didn't know a lot about history and he fucked it up. He

2:04:56

couldn't remember what part of France he lived in or what

2:04:58

language and customs of the time were or

2:05:00

any of his millions of memories from life as a

2:05:02

dark prince. God damn it Scott, you're

2:05:05

killing the vibe. You damn pyre half wit. Because

2:05:09

of this embarrassing display, Rod made him assist

2:05:11

in performing a ritual in St. Louis Cemetery

2:05:13

number one later that night. It's

2:05:15

the oldest cemetery in the city where people

2:05:18

like Voodoo priestess Marie Laveau are

2:05:20

buried. After Rod will attempt

2:05:22

to conjure a spirit messenger he named the Zepassi.

2:05:25

Rod slit his wrist a bit, smeared blood in the shape

2:05:27

of an upside down cross on the

2:05:29

locked stone gate entrance to the cemetery.

2:05:32

Then he decided to share a thanksgiving to the gods of

2:05:35

the undead. After which he simply scaled the

2:05:37

wall, hopped over it, dropped down to the other

2:05:39

side, then unlocked to gate for his friends. This

2:05:41

cemetery, locked all the time with the general public since

2:05:43

2015, was opened during the day

2:05:46

but locked at night back in 96. Then

2:05:49

to the cemetery, Heather would discard her personal

2:05:51

belongings, photos, craft books, all signs

2:05:53

of her human childhood, including pictures of her

2:05:55

parents. Rod then

2:05:57

threw the crowbar he had used to kill Heather's parents into

2:05:59

the Mississippi. Mississippi, demanded that Heather give

2:06:01

thanks to the gods of the undead. Charity

2:06:04

and Dana asked me the same. Dana

2:06:07

was the only one who refused to let go

2:06:09

of some personal keepsakes, a few prom pictures, stack

2:06:11

of letters, her resume, bank

2:06:13

statements, couple bills. By the time they

2:06:15

left the cemetery, it was early in the morning on November 28, 1996. Charity's grandma

2:06:20

had reserved a room for them at Howard

2:06:22

Johnson's Baton Rouge, the favorite hotel of vampires.

2:06:24

Off they went thinking everything's going great. At

2:06:27

least Rod was thinking that. They had no idea that

2:06:29

Charity's grandma was working with the police. And

2:06:31

that immediately after they checked in, the cops

2:06:34

would arrest them. Hail Charity's grandma. The

2:06:37

day before, arrest warrants had gone out for five

2:06:39

suspects. The murders of Rick and Ruth Wendorf, Rod

2:06:42

Rick, Charity, Scott, Dana, and Heather.

2:06:45

At 9.30 PM on November 28, Sergeant

2:06:47

Ben Odom placed five teens in custody in Baton

2:06:49

Rouge. After all he'd done,

2:06:51

after all his big vampire going to kick even

2:06:53

God's ass talk, Rod Farrell quietly

2:06:56

surrendered. He was taken into an interrogation

2:06:59

room in Baton Rouge and quickly, proudly

2:07:01

would confess. Here's a little snippet

2:07:05

from his initial confession. Dude did not give

2:07:07

a shit about what he had done to

2:07:09

Heather's parents. He didn't notice me.

2:07:11

Scott didn't

2:07:27

hesitate to take the blame for killing Ruth and

2:07:29

Rick, waved his rights to an attorney

2:07:55

not wanting an adult with him, explained that Scott

2:07:58

was basically an accessory who didn't participate much. They

2:08:00

explained that the girls weren't even there. He

2:08:03

said he only had two things that

2:08:06

bothered him about, now that he was arrested, only two things

2:08:08

bothered him. Neither had shit to do with feeling

2:08:10

bad about murdering Rick and Ruth. He was, one,

2:08:12

sad that he would never be able to see charity again. And

2:08:14

he was, two, angry that when

2:08:17

he was five years old, his grandpa had taken him

2:08:19

to a black mass and sexually abused him. Black

2:08:22

mass? Mm, maybe. Feels

2:08:25

far-fetched, but maybe. Did

2:08:28

you feel any remorse about what you did? Sergeant

2:08:30

Odin asked him. I'm used

2:08:32

to sacrifices, Rod replied. I've been hanging

2:08:34

around gangs and cults forever, and killing is a way of

2:08:36

life. Animals do it, and that's

2:08:38

the way humans are. We're just the worst predators

2:08:40

of all, really. Now even though

2:08:42

Rod had copped to the murder, and was indeed telling

2:08:45

the truth, the police still need to talk

2:08:47

to everybody else, especially Heather. Multiple

2:08:49

people from her school had come forward saying that she

2:08:51

had talked about getting someone from out of state to

2:08:54

kill her parents. However, one

2:08:56

of them, Amber Blood, later did fail the

2:08:58

polygraph, and then admitted she had not even

2:09:00

met Heather. So who knows? November

2:09:03

29th, Lake County officials arrived

2:09:05

to talk to the teenagers. They

2:09:07

had been kept chained to the chairs, and some

2:09:09

chairs in a police department, perhaps because

2:09:11

the teens, oh my God,

2:09:14

perhaps because the teens camaraderie,

2:09:17

even though Rod admitted to being a murderer, continued as

2:09:19

they joked and played with one another. Perhaps

2:09:21

Rod had told them this was all some kind of test. Perhaps

2:09:24

most of them felt like they just didn't have anyone

2:09:26

else left than each other to lean on. Whatever

2:09:29

the reason, their behavior made the Lake County officials,

2:09:31

Sergeant Wayne Longo and Detective Al Gusher, even more

2:09:33

convinced of Heather's guilt. She's not acting like her

2:09:35

parents are dead. They taped

2:09:37

interviews with each of the kids, leaving Heather for last to

2:09:39

get enough ammo against her. Rod would

2:09:41

prove the most useful, saying he and Heather and Janine had planned

2:09:43

to run away together for over a year. Police

2:09:46

had found evidence to back that up. A letter from

2:09:48

Janine smeared with blood, which contained a map of the

2:09:50

Wendorf home, as well as a travel bucket list.

2:09:53

Canada, Ireland, Egypt, Rome, Greece,

2:09:55

France. That same

2:09:57

day Rod's mom, Crazy Asandra, told the Orlando

2:10:00

Orlando Sentinel that

2:10:02

Heather was saying she was going to kill her parents for a long time.

2:10:05

Dana would be the first to be extradited to Lake

2:10:07

County on December 3rd. All of the

2:10:09

teens, minus Heather, would be indicted on charges of murder. Rod

2:10:12

and Scott, first degree. Charity and Dana,

2:10:14

third degree, while prosecutors still figured out if they

2:10:16

wanted to charge Heather or not. December

2:10:19

18th, 1996, Rod, in an interview

2:10:21

with the Sentinel, claimed that he had

2:10:23

to kill the Wendorfs because of a pact he

2:10:25

made with the rival vampire clan in Kentucky. He

2:10:28

also asserted he suffered from special blackout moments, after

2:10:30

which he had no memory. How convenient.

2:10:33

The authorities would discount this claim about a

2:10:35

rival vampire cult. The very next day, Lake

2:10:37

County Sheriff George Nupp said, I put no

2:10:39

stock in it whatsoever. I bet not. January

2:10:42

of 1997, Gibson pleaded guilty but mentally

2:10:45

ill, Sisandra, to a first degree criminal

2:10:47

attempt to commit an unlawful transaction with

2:10:49

a minor, a felony. A

2:10:51

Kentucky judge placed her on probation on

2:10:53

the condition she seek counseling. And yes,

2:10:55

this is her being punished for trying to

2:10:58

fuck Jaden's 14-year-old little brother. Takes

2:11:01

until January 28th, 1997, for Lake County officials

2:11:03

to decide what to do about Heather. They

2:11:05

decide not to press charges. They

2:11:08

decide she's innocent, that she had no prior

2:11:10

knowledge of the murders, robbery, or burglary. Later,

2:11:12

her boyfriend Jeremy will testify on her behalf that she

2:11:14

in no way wanted her parents dead. She loved them

2:11:16

very much. The

2:11:18

only thing she wrote to Rod was just a mix of

2:11:21

teenage angst and fantasy, just talking shit, not

2:11:23

meaning she wanted anything bad to really happen to them. Almost

2:11:26

a month later, February 27th, state attorney Brad

2:11:28

King announces the opposite outcome for Rod. The

2:11:30

prosecution will seek the death penalty. And

2:11:33

in August, the judge will rule that the case against Rod will

2:11:35

begin in February. Presiding

2:11:37

judge Jerry Lockett in

2:11:39

a crucial ruling decides that the jury in Rod's

2:11:41

murder trial will be able to hear his confession.

2:11:44

Jury selection will begin in February, but that'll

2:11:46

pose problems too. Nearly everyone has heard

2:11:48

about this case. One prospective juror

2:11:50

said, you would have had to have been blind

2:11:52

or deaf or have not seen anything. To

2:11:54

not have heard about this. But the lawyers will

2:11:56

agree on a 12 person jury all the same. Also

2:11:59

in early February. In January, defense attorneys argued that Rod should

2:12:01

be allowed a new defense, intoxication,

2:12:03

coupled with mental disorders. Rod

2:12:06

told a defense expert that he drank half a

2:12:08

bottle of alcohol in the late afternoon before the

2:12:11

murders, smoked a lot of marijuana,

2:12:13

consumed eight to ten, it's called

2:12:15

strips here, but pray tabs of LSD, also

2:12:17

took roughly 15 Prozac pills within

2:12:20

an hour of the murders. Vampires,

2:12:22

man, they're just built different. The drugs apparently just

2:12:24

don't hit his heart. Or

2:12:26

he was dropping really shitty acid and smoking bad weed. Maybe

2:12:29

he did do all that, but no one in his coven would attest

2:12:31

to any of that. And since he would not be arrested until days

2:12:34

after the murders, he would not

2:12:36

be tested for toxicology, there's no evidence of

2:12:38

this. Just Rod's word. February

2:12:40

5th, Rod makes it real easy

2:12:42

for prosecutors. Just as

2:12:45

opening statements are about to be read, Rod

2:12:47

pulls an audible, stands up, pleads guilty to

2:12:49

two counts of felony murder, claims that the

2:12:51

others traveling with him were innocent except Scott,

2:12:53

who is simply an accessory. Inside

2:12:56

the courtroom, his mom, Sondra Gibson,

2:12:58

defiantly yells at reporters, we live

2:13:00

forever. You know, because

2:13:02

she and Rod are vampires. They

2:13:04

both still believe that. There was

2:13:06

still a sentencing to go and Rod wanted

2:13:08

to present mitigating factors. The death penalty is

2:13:10

still looming. Rod's attorneys attempt to

2:13:12

argue that he was insane. He'd been

2:13:15

diagnosed with mental disorders, including schizo-typal

2:13:17

personality disorder and Asperger syndrome. Experts

2:13:20

from the University of Florida further attest

2:13:22

that Rod sometimes hallucinated without LSD, that

2:13:25

he witnessed spiritual things such as angels and demons.

2:13:28

Rod himself will make some unsurprisingly pretty

2:13:30

bizarre claims. He'll again attest

2:13:32

that his maternal grandfather molested him, but this time

2:13:34

without the black mask details. Psychologists

2:13:37

said Rod told them he was not only molested by

2:13:39

Harold, but gang-raped by Harold and a bunch of his

2:13:41

friends. And as outlandish

2:13:43

as this may sound, Sondra Gibson's older

2:13:45

sister will testify that her father sexually

2:13:47

abused both her and Sondra. Again,

2:13:50

I'd be shocked if some terrible shit did

2:13:52

not happen to Rod when he was a little kid. The

2:13:55

judge Jerry T. Lockett, not swayed by

2:13:57

this though, he sends Rod to death

2:13:59

February January 27th, 1998,

2:14:01

making him the youngest member on Florida's death

2:14:03

row. And now for the rest. Charity

2:14:06

Casey convicted of two counts of third degree murder,

2:14:09

robbery with a gun or deadly weapon, burglary armed

2:14:11

with a weapon or explosives. The

2:14:13

burglary robbery charges stem from Rod

2:14:15

and Scott breaking into Rick and Ruth Windorf's

2:14:18

home using a crowbar, the weapon

2:14:20

to kill them in order to steal the Explorer

2:14:22

and other items. She sends to 10 and

2:14:24

a half years in state prison. Dana Cooper

2:14:26

convicted on those charges as well, given a 17 and

2:14:29

a half year prison sentence because she was a legal adult at the

2:14:31

time. Scott Anderson pled guilty

2:14:33

to the same charges as Rod and was

2:14:35

sentenced to life in prison. Kentucky

2:14:38

authorities who had convicted Sondra of the charges

2:14:40

she'd received from sending the sexually explicit letters

2:14:42

allowed Sondra to move to Florida to visit

2:14:44

him. But then Florida authorities

2:14:47

nixed that idea citing neighbor opposition. Umatilla

2:14:50

police chief Doug Foster told probation officials he

2:14:52

was not pleased with the idea of having

2:14:54

a sex offender in his community. I

2:14:56

strongly object to allowing this person with her

2:14:59

background and connection and cults in this area.

2:15:01

I have grandchildren and great grandchildren wrote a

2:15:03

woman from Altoona. But then

2:15:05

later she will be back. I watched her

2:15:07

speak on a real stories documentary called Kentucky

2:15:10

Teenage Vampires about how she had moved back to

2:15:12

Florida, got an apartment near the

2:15:14

prison, saw Rod every week and wrote letters

2:15:16

to him every day. Backing

2:15:19

up for two years, Rod held the record as the

2:15:21

youngest inmate on death row in Florida. Then

2:15:23

in November of 2000, the Florida Supreme Court reduced his

2:15:25

sentence to life in prison because he was just 16

2:15:27

when he committed the killings. Charity

2:15:30

Kesey released from prison March of 2006. Dana

2:15:33

Cooper released from prison October of 2011. In

2:15:37

January of 2013, an appellate court dismissed attempts

2:15:39

by both Rod and Scott to get a

2:15:41

new sentencing hearing. However, in

2:15:43

December of 2018, Scott Anderson

2:15:45

was resentenced by Circuit Judge Don Briggs to

2:15:47

40 years in prison. Anderson

2:15:50

was given credit for the 22 years he had

2:15:52

already served and that makes him first

2:15:54

eligible for parole in 2031. attended

2:16:00

Anderson's sentencing hearing, actually, excuse me, eligible

2:16:02

for release in 2031. Sorry,

2:16:05

I misspoke there. Ruth Wendorsch relatives attended Anderson's

2:16:07

resentencing hearing, did not oppose his

2:16:10

early release. They said they were

2:16:12

way more concerned about Rod, who was scheduled for

2:16:14

his own resentencing hearing July of 2019. Rod's

2:16:17

hearing subsequently rescheduled to November

2:16:19

18th, then again to April of 2020. His

2:16:23

resensing was spurred by a US Supreme Court

2:16:25

decision that ruled that juveniles should not automatically

2:16:27

get life without parole sentences, because scientific

2:16:29

research shows that their brains, you know, are still

2:16:31

developing at that age. During

2:16:34

the hearing, Rod once again maintained the claim that his

2:16:36

grandpa, other older men had molested him. Psychologists

2:16:39

had their homes testified during the resentencing hearing

2:16:41

that his mom, Sondra Gibson, confronted

2:16:43

the homeowner where the

2:16:46

rape took place of Rod when she

2:16:48

was young. With five-year-old Rod in

2:16:50

tow, Gibson thought she was taking up for her son,

2:16:52

but it re-traumatized him, Holmes said. Holmes

2:16:55

also claimed Sondra herself had a sex relationship

2:16:57

with her son, but wouldn't

2:16:59

provide exact details. This claim

2:17:01

will be backed up by Rod's new fiancee, who

2:17:03

met Rod in prison by writing him letters, a

2:17:05

woman named Leslie Bullard, who

2:17:07

testified that Sondra's relationship with Farrell

2:17:10

was, quote, beyond romantic. Bullard,

2:17:13

a teacher in Texas, also said she would give Rod a home and

2:17:15

make sure he had a job if he was ever released. Rod

2:17:18

made a tearful apology to the families of Ruth and Rick, said

2:17:20

Heather tricked him into believing she was truly

2:17:22

being sexually abused. And if she

2:17:25

really did that, how fucked. Regardless

2:17:27

of the outcome of this resentencing, please know just

2:17:29

how deeply sorry I am for all the hurt

2:17:31

that I have caused, he said. I'm sorry

2:17:33

for all the pain and your loss. I'm sorry for everything. Yeah,

2:17:36

he's done with being a vampire now. Would

2:17:38

this apology get him a chance at life outside of prison? Circuit

2:17:41

Judge G. Richard Singletary, yes, got

2:17:43

a dick, wrote in his sentencing

2:17:45

memo, it is the

2:17:48

court's responsibility to evaluate whether the

2:17:50

defendant was the juvenile offender whose

2:17:52

crimes reflect unfortunate yet transient immaturity

2:17:54

or the rare juvenile offender whose

2:17:56

crime reflects irreparable corruption. But

2:17:59

after looking at Farrell's history and based on the evidence

2:18:01

presented, the court finds that

2:18:03

he is irreparably corrupt. In

2:18:05

this case, the facts of the double homicide of

2:18:08

Richard and Naomi Ruth Queen, oh yeah, I forgot

2:18:10

who's Richard, as well as the armed burglary and

2:18:12

armed robbery are among the most appalling. These

2:18:14

two victims were peacefully going about their daily lives

2:18:17

when the defendant violated the sanctity of their home.

2:18:19

Rather than restraining them or tying them up as he had

2:18:21

contemplated, he ended their home and beat them to death with

2:18:24

a crowbar. After his arrest

2:18:26

he described these events to law enforcement and

2:18:28

later journalists without any remorse and without any

2:18:30

indication that he was psychologically impacted by having

2:18:33

beaten two human beings to death. The

2:18:35

couple's oldest daughter, Jennifer Wendorff, said

2:18:37

at the resentencing hearing that the pain will never go

2:18:40

away. She begged the judge to keep

2:18:42

Farrell in prison. Her sister Heather,

2:18:44

not at the hearing, guessing she and

2:18:46

Jennifer are not on the best of terms. The

2:18:49

judge noted regarding Jennifer's request, her

2:18:51

plea to the court was based not only on the fact

2:18:54

that the defendant had murdered both of her parents, but

2:18:56

was also founded upon her sincere fear for her own

2:18:58

safety and that of her children. Her

2:19:01

fear is justified not only because of the murder

2:19:03

of her parents, but also considering the following statement

2:19:05

from Rod Farrell, made to the Baton Rouge Police

2:19:07

Department, thought about waiting for

2:19:09

Heather Wendorff, thought about waiting for Heather's sister,

2:19:12

but decided, nah, why bother? Let

2:19:15

her come home, have a mental breakdown, call the

2:19:17

police, which I was correct,

2:19:19

she did. Okay, it's

2:19:21

a cold-blooded motherfucker. Anderson

2:19:23

currently incarcerated in the Calhoun Correctional Institution.

2:19:26

Farrell is in the Northwest Florida reception

2:19:28

center, Annex. He'll turn 44

2:19:30

in a few months, and it looks like he'll never walk

2:19:32

free. Unless, of course, he finally decides to

2:19:34

turn into a bat, you know, inside a web, which he could obviously

2:19:37

do that at any moment. He could also

2:19:39

employ some vampiric mind control, force one of the guards

2:19:41

to unlock him, sire that fucker,

2:19:44

make him a vampire, have him attack

2:19:46

other guards. Rod also will sire. Eventually,

2:19:48

Rod Sago could march out the front

2:19:51

door with an army of vampiric guards,

2:19:54

and of course all the prisoners behind him,

2:19:56

and take over the fucking world. Starting

2:19:58

with Murray Kentucky. She's probably gonna

2:20:00

fuck that town up after stopping by Hardee's, you

2:20:02

know, grabbing a burger for old times. Now

2:20:06

let's end the timeline on a happier note. In 2022,

2:20:08

Janine LeClair, now an artist, had a

2:20:10

showing of her art at the Buckham Gallery in Flint,

2:20:12

Michigan. She apparently attended the

2:20:14

Pennsylvania Academy of Fine Arts after doing a year at

2:20:16

the Savannah College of Art and Design. Couldn't

2:20:19

find any recent mention of Heather Wendorf

2:20:21

online. Seems to be keeping a low profile. Only

2:20:24

mention of her online I can find comes from 2006, decade

2:20:27

after the murders. In the photo, she looks

2:20:29

happy, healthy, blonde hair pulled back into two

2:20:31

pigtails, thin, pretty, wearing a black

2:20:33

Andy Warhol graphic tee with a Warhol sketch

2:20:35

of a banana on it. Sexy.

2:20:38

Oh, she's standing to, you

2:20:40

know, next to three black and white sketches that

2:20:42

she did of seemingly random shapes. There's

2:20:44

a small caption that just

2:20:46

says, Heather Wendorf Kelly with

2:20:49

selections of her artwork series titled, Resistant Figures at

2:20:51

her home in North Carolina, Friday, December 15, 2006.

2:20:53

So also an artist. Seems

2:20:57

that she has gotten married and based on

2:20:59

comments from some people in some chat rooms,

2:21:01

still lives in North Carolina. Hope

2:21:04

she truly never wanted anyone to kill her parents. Hope she's

2:21:06

happy. Hope she never wants to be a vampire again. And

2:21:08

now let's hop out of this timeline. Good

2:21:13

job, soldier. You've made it back.

2:21:16

There. Before

2:21:23

I share a few of my final thoughts, Suckverse

2:21:26

Crimestopper, Sonny Hollister, would

2:21:29

like to share his thoughts. Detective

2:21:34

Sonny Hollister here, me ex. Cheesecake

2:21:37

Factory Store Detective. What

2:21:39

a case today. Vampires. Wish

2:21:42

the Murray PD would have consulted me about

2:21:44

Rod. I would have stopped him long before

2:21:46

he ever left for Florida. Believe

2:21:48

it or not, I've dealt with

2:21:51

vampires myself over the years. Once

2:21:54

I had to take on an entire cup when

2:21:56

I worked the factory at the Lakeside Shopping Center

2:21:58

just outside of New Orleans. Their

2:22:01

leader, Todd, managed the

2:22:03

hot topic there, and several

2:22:05

of the vampires he sired worked for him. A

2:22:08

few others worked at Buckle. At

2:22:10

least one worked at Zumie's. Another

2:22:13

at Charlie's Philly Steaks or maybe Auntie Anne's. The

2:22:16

whole food court was infested with goth

2:22:18

vampires. And

2:22:20

they thought that six or more of them

2:22:22

could come in together, one of them

2:22:24

could order a side of fries, and

2:22:26

then all of them could indulge in our unlimited free

2:22:28

brown bread. Those blood suckers were

2:22:30

trying to bleed a fry. Technically,

2:22:34

they had found a loophole, and I couldn't bust them.

2:22:37

They weren't doing anything illegal, but

2:22:39

I could make them want to never come in again. I

2:22:43

hired a guy I've only ever known as

2:22:45

Sleepy Greg from Houston, I believe. Twerk

2:22:48

is their waiter, also not

2:22:50

illegal to give terrible service. I

2:22:52

would have Greg deliver them one basket of bread and

2:22:54

then go sit at the bar and quickly fall into

2:22:56

a deep slumber. When

2:22:59

Todd decided to fight back by creeping out

2:23:01

all the paying customers around him by talking

2:23:03

about how he had invited demons to join

2:23:05

their table, I

2:23:07

called up an old son divine who knows a real demon,

2:23:10

Charles Gutman, and he sent

2:23:12

me Woody, a possessed puppet who

2:23:14

demanded to be paid in voxel. And

2:23:17

I put that paranormal puppet on the wall right

2:23:19

next to their table. Oh,

2:23:22

Vampargas, me, Woody! Gosh,

2:23:24

you dorks are spooky! Why

2:23:26

you scared little me? Oh, God, Todd, it's like

2:23:28

you're peeping your little vampire boy pants! Why's

2:23:31

your coven so scared of me? Whee!

2:23:36

Just like that. Bang, bang, chicken and

2:23:38

shrimp, the vampires were gone. Same

2:23:41

technique could have been used with Rod and his coven. They

2:23:44

thought they were scary, so the Murray PD

2:23:46

should have outscared them. Send

2:23:49

in some undercover officers pretending to be werewolf.

2:23:52

Kidnap them. Throw them in a van, beat

2:23:54

the tar out of them, tie them up in

2:23:56

burlax sacks. Hang in from some tree branches.

2:23:59

Tell them if they don't leave town. They'll be eating alive. Then

2:24:01

leave them there, thinking that

2:24:03

they're going to die. Easier

2:24:06

than selling cheesecake at the Cheesecake Factory. Until

2:24:09

next time, you keep listening to True Crime,

2:24:12

and I'll keep stopping it. Stay

2:24:14

sunny, everyone. Huh,

2:24:17

pretty sure that Sonny's advice was very illegal. Oh

2:24:20

well, it was nice to hear from Woody. He

2:24:22

has been pissed behind the scenes since he

2:24:24

was completely forgotten about and the exorcism sucked.

2:24:28

Rod Farrell and the Florida Vampire murders, my

2:24:30

thoughts now, weird episode.

2:24:33

I don't know if the truth

2:24:35

is actually stranger than fiction, I can make up a lot of really

2:24:37

weird shit in my head, but this truth, definitely

2:24:39

stranger than a lot if not most fiction. In

2:24:42

this story, Rod seems to have gotten really

2:24:44

lost in fiction. So did some

2:24:47

other kids, but no one more than him. What

2:24:49

a terrible combination of very likely familial sexual

2:24:52

abuse in early childhood, coupled with a very

2:24:54

unstable home life, no consistent

2:24:56

supervision and boundary setting by any stable

2:24:58

adults, mental illness, tons of drug use

2:25:01

with a still developing mind, early

2:25:03

exposure to fantasy RPG games that he

2:25:05

was allowed to play seemingly endlessly with

2:25:07

no guidance, games that provided Rod

2:25:09

with a fantasy life so much better than his own,

2:25:12

and you know, combining the game with the use of

2:25:14

a ton of heavy psychedelics, I can

2:25:16

see how those games started to feel way too real. Then

2:25:19

Rod finds a crew of other kids, almost like the

2:25:21

family he never had, who also loved

2:25:24

vampires, who got really into vampire

2:25:26

the masquerade, playing throughout the night,

2:25:28

taking it very seriously, and it

2:25:30

was all just too immersive for

2:25:32

Rod, and he got lost. And

2:25:34

then he pulled others into his dark fantasy, and

2:25:37

it ended in a very senseless, you know, set

2:25:39

of double murders, or double murder.

2:25:41

Like, why did he kill Heather's parents? He could have

2:25:43

easily fled to New Orleans without doing that, so unnecessary.

2:25:45

Did he really think they had sexually abused Heather, or

2:25:47

did he just want to give a little taste of

2:25:49

his power, you know, in real life, to

2:25:51

give in to the beast? Did he

2:25:53

really truly to his core think he was a vampire?

2:25:56

Or did he just relish the control over people pretending to think

2:25:59

that game was a vampire? him. You

2:26:01

know, people who thought that about

2:26:03

him. And if he would have gotten away with those

2:26:05

murders, what else would he have done? How

2:26:08

many others would Visago have killed? I'm guessing many,

2:26:10

many more. I'm guessing he would have

2:26:12

just kept killing and killing until eventually he was caught. Thankfully,

2:26:15

he only lasted four days on the run. Thankfully,

2:26:17

not eligible for parole. If it was my choice,

2:26:20

he would never ever get out. Not

2:26:22

worth the risk. Let's keep Rod Sago behind

2:26:24

bars and maybe drive a

2:26:26

wooden stake through his heart after he finally dies

2:26:28

just to make sure he stays

2:26:30

dead. Let's now

2:26:32

head to

2:26:35

the takeaways.

2:26:37

Number

2:26:39

one, Rod Farrell and Scott Anderson, but

2:26:42

really just Rod, murdered Ruth and Rick Wendorf on the

2:26:44

night of November 25th, 1996. Rod butchered them with a

2:26:48

crowbar while Scott stood by terrified.

2:26:51

Two, Rod told other kids he

2:26:53

was a vampire named Visago, 500

2:26:56

something year old eternal being who'd been born in France

2:26:58

and then went into a state of dormancy or maybe

2:27:00

lived in New Orleans for a long time. It's hard

2:27:02

to say his story kept changing. Number

2:27:05

three, when we look at what Rod, you

2:27:07

know, became what made him, I think his

2:27:09

mom, Sandra had the most influence. She

2:27:12

introduced him to the occult at an early age, to

2:27:14

hard drugs, possibly, if not almost

2:27:16

certainly molested him, also seemed to

2:27:18

thrive off her son's attention and the attention she got

2:27:20

from being in his coven, as though

2:27:23

she were his girlfriend rather than his mom. She

2:27:25

would be put on probation for sending horrifyingly

2:27:27

sexual letters to a 14 year old boy.

2:27:30

And even after Scott pled guilty to a

2:27:32

double murder, she screamed outside the courthouse, we

2:27:34

live forever. Also,

2:27:37

fuck his dad Rick for abandoning him. Number

2:27:39

four, in February of 1998, Rod

2:27:41

was sentenced to death, although the term was later reduced to life

2:27:43

in prison. For two years, he was the

2:27:46

youngest person on death row. Now

2:27:48

he's not anything. Just a 40 something

2:27:50

man who pissed away his life as a teen for getting way

2:27:52

into thinking he was a vampire. And

2:27:54

number five new info, Rod

2:27:56

Farrell, not the only teenager who got so into vampires,

2:27:58

he ended up becoming a murder. murderer. On

2:28:01

November 25, 2001, a Meals

2:28:03

on Wheels volunteer visited the home of

2:28:05

a woman in Wales with

2:28:08

the hardest, living in a town

2:28:10

with the hardest pronounced name in the fucking world.

2:28:12

It's 60 letters long. Listen to

2:28:14

this local newscaster say this. Just

2:28:16

the right from stand by the first wing is to go

2:28:18

get a quandroble, stand to say go go go. That

2:28:21

literally is the name of the town. Anyway,

2:28:24

fuck whoever decides to name that town that name. In that place,

2:28:26

November 25, 2001,

2:28:36

the dead body of 90-year-old widow Mabel

2:28:38

Leachon was found. 17-year-old Matthew Hardman

2:28:40

broke into her home through a

2:28:42

lower window in her back door.

2:28:45

She didn't hear him enter because she had the TV on

2:28:47

max volume because she was hard of hearing. Matthew

2:28:50

snuck up on her. She was sitting in her favorite chair

2:28:52

watching one of her shows and he stabbed

2:28:54

her 22 times with a kitchen knife he brought from

2:28:56

home and would take back home like an idiot.

2:28:59

DNA from that knife in his house would seal his

2:29:01

conviction. After killing her, he moved her body

2:29:03

to another chair, placed two pokers in the shape of a cross

2:29:05

at her feet. He then cut out her

2:29:07

heart, pulled it in a saucepan wrapped in

2:29:09

a newspaper, placed the saucepan on

2:29:12

a silver platter in some kind of macabre vampiric

2:29:14

ritual he'd come up with, then

2:29:16

drained blood from Mrs. Leachon's leg into

2:29:18

the same saucepan and drank from it.

2:29:21

Matthew, who was familiar with Mrs. Leachon, he had been

2:29:24

her paper boy for a few years, was obsessed with

2:29:26

vampires, thought he could become one if

2:29:28

he just performed the right ritual. Two months

2:29:30

before that murder, he had begged a German exchange

2:29:32

student to bite him on the neck because

2:29:34

he thought she was a real vampire and could

2:29:37

transform him. He was sentenced to life but

2:29:39

with a possibility to parole after just a dozen years. His

2:29:42

first attempts to parole were rejected but he has another parole

2:29:44

hearing coming up August of 2023. He could have

2:29:54

been released in between recording this episode and you hearing

2:29:56

it. I hope not. When you

2:29:58

do something that fucked up. Even if you do it

2:30:01

when you're 17. Can you ever

2:30:03

really be rehabilitated? I fucking

2:30:05

doubt it. Time sucks. Top

2:30:08

5 takeaways.

2:30:12

The Florida Vampire Murders have been

2:30:15

sucked. Ha ha ha.

2:30:18

Thank you to the Bad Magic Productions team for all

2:30:20

the help of making Time Suck, such as Queen of

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2:30:25

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2:30:27

merch, Sophie Evans providing initial

2:30:29

research. Also thanks to the All

2:30:31

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2:30:33

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2:30:36

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2:30:38

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2:30:41

And now let's head on over to

2:30:43

this week's Time Sucker updates. Ohhhh,

2:30:46

updates? Get

2:30:49

your Time Sucker updates. Today's

2:30:53

first message comes from Marvelous Meat

2:30:55

Sack Mind, OG sucker Morgan McCaw.

2:30:58

I've met Morgan, and I wonder what his IQ

2:31:00

is. Pretty confident it's double digits more

2:31:02

than mine. He writes in with a

2:31:04

subject line of fourth dimension experiment lacks the control. Hi

2:31:06

Dan. I am

2:31:09

listening to the fourth dimension episode, and you're talking about

2:31:11

the experiment that What's His Name did with recording his

2:31:13

dreams, and looking for similarities in the following days. The

2:31:16

problem with his experiment is that it lacks a

2:31:18

control to compare to. He also claims

2:31:20

to use statistics, but I'm not sure how you could

2:31:22

use statistics without a control. How

2:31:25

would you even enumerate how many chances there

2:31:27

were for an event to happen and a

2:31:29

baseline for random happenstance? Not smart. You

2:31:32

told listeners that they could try the experiment themselves.

2:31:34

I would suggest anyone trying it to

2:31:36

add a control, to see if these

2:31:38

results are explainable by coincidence, and What's

2:31:40

His Name and others are noticing patterns, and if What's His

2:31:42

Name and others are noticing patterns that aren't really there. Morgan

2:31:45

is referring here to John William Dunn's

2:31:48

dream journaling. Right when you wake up,

2:31:50

you write down as many details from your dream as you can

2:31:52

remember. You don't care about what you felt

2:31:54

about the dream, just what you saw. Who? What were

2:31:56

they wearing? What were they doing? Where were they? Where

2:31:58

were you? What painting was hanging on the

2:32:01

wall of the room you were in? That sort of thing. And

2:32:03

then that evening you look down through what you wrote

2:32:05

that morning and also the morning before to see

2:32:08

if out in the world you saw anything you just

2:32:10

dreamt about. Did you see the future of it

2:32:12

in your dream? Morgan continues, for

2:32:15

the control I would write down an equally

2:32:17

long list of things that seem equally random,

2:32:19

a similar level of ridiculousness. When

2:32:21

looking back at your notes, see if you can draw

2:32:23

parallels to the randomly picked events. Now,

2:32:26

this isn't going to be perfect because the person is going

2:32:28

to have a personal connection with the dream memories they may

2:32:30

not necessarily have with the random ones they made up. So

2:32:33

maybe they could try to picture this thing they are making up

2:32:35

happening and extra details about it to match

2:32:37

the dreams. Again, still not perfect, but

2:32:39

better than nothing. It's also good

2:32:41

to go into this experiment with the realization that

2:32:43

animal brains, especially humans, are very good at finding

2:32:46

patterns, even when they don't exist. B.F.

2:32:49

Skinner's pigeons are a great example of

2:32:52

this, Morgan. Morgan regarding we meat sacks being programmed to

2:32:54

find patterns and things included a link to apophenia

2:32:58

per Merriam Webster

2:33:00

dictionary. Apophenia is

2:33:02

defined as the tendency to perceive a

2:33:05

connection or meaningful pattern between unrelated or

2:33:07

random things, such as objects or ideas.

2:33:10

The example given is what psychologists call

2:33:12

apophenia, the human tendency to see connections

2:33:14

and patterns that are not really there,

2:33:16

gives rise to conspiracy theories. Damn

2:33:19

it, Morgan. Yeah, that may be

2:33:21

all that this dream interpretation is. It's

2:33:24

us finding patterns that aren't really there. I

2:33:26

do appreciate you always working to keep me grounded. Well,

2:33:29

I don't always read your messages on the show. I do always read them, by

2:33:31

the way. So why do we see patterns that

2:33:33

aren't there? One of the explanations

2:33:35

put forth by evolutionary psychologists for apophenia

2:33:38

is that it is not a flaw in the cognition of

2:33:40

human brains, but rather something that has come about through years

2:33:42

of need or just evolution. The

2:33:45

study of this topic is referred to as error management

2:33:47

theory. Error management theory, too much to

2:33:49

get into here. The quick example of how

2:33:51

it may affect us is men seeing

2:33:53

flirtation from women that does not exist, but

2:33:56

a perception that it existed led to

2:33:58

the men flirting with women. with the women, then

2:34:01

in a fair amount of cases, this

2:34:03

leads to relationships, leads to sex,

2:34:06

to the genes passing on and the behavior is rewarded.

2:34:10

Beneficial seeing signs that were not there,

2:34:12

beneficial, hail Lucifina and so we doubled

2:34:15

down over the generations on that type of

2:34:17

thinking. Finally, the pigeon experiment

2:34:19

Morgan refers to is called Skinner's box. This

2:34:22

experiment involves taking a hungry pigeon, placing it in

2:34:25

a box and releasing food

2:34:27

pellets at totally random times. But

2:34:29

the pigeon receives the food pellet while the pigeon

2:34:31

is doing something and rather than

2:34:33

attributing the arrival of the pellet to randomness, the pigeon attributed

2:34:35

to what they were doing when the pellet showed up. Then

2:34:38

they repeat that action and continue to do so

2:34:40

until another pellet falls. As the

2:34:42

pigeon increases the number of times it performs the

2:34:44

action, it gains the impression that it also has

2:34:46

increased the times it was rewarded with the pellet,

2:34:49

although the release the whole time was entirely

2:34:51

random. Very

2:34:53

interesting. I get it Morgan. But

2:34:56

I am still holding out hope that we can see the future

2:34:58

in our dreams because it's cool

2:35:00

and I enjoy employing magical thinking from

2:35:03

time to time just because I like to walk through

2:35:05

the world with a sense of at least some childlike

2:35:07

wonder. Our

2:35:09

next message inspired by the history of exorcism

2:35:11

sucks. Midwest meat sack, Big

2:35:13

G. Blenstein or Stein, Blenstein

2:35:17

writes in with a subject line of my dad saw dead

2:35:19

people. Okay, Big G. I'm listening.

2:35:22

Here is Dan the person with the podcast. As always

2:35:24

a mediocre effort on this week's podcast, 3 out of 5 stars. This

2:35:28

one is really long but true. My father

2:35:30

Gary who bore a strikey resemblance to Captain

2:35:32

Kangaroo. He did. The

2:35:34

picture you included? Yeah, he did.

2:35:37

Had repeated interactions with spiritual incarnations. Started

2:35:39

when we moved to Hinsdale just outside of Chicago in 1974. He

2:35:43

loved old houses and this house fit the bill. It

2:35:45

was on the sole remaining brick street on top of a

2:35:47

hill. The three and a half stories looked menacing

2:35:49

to my six year old self. The

2:35:52

basement had strange boarded up rooms off

2:35:54

of cobweb filled rooms that have been sealed until my dad

2:35:56

knocked them down. The third floor had

2:35:58

doors off of the playroom for stories. The house scared

2:36:00

the shit out of me before I knew the word shit

2:36:03

existed. My dad woke at about 3

2:36:05

a.m. one night to take a piss. It was a crisp

2:36:07

fall night in 1975. He

2:36:09

woke to the sound of a mother and two

2:36:11

kids walking outside on the sidewalk. He

2:36:13

went to the window, clearly heard the mother's voice

2:36:15

talking with her children about their melting ice cream

2:36:17

cones, followed the trailers of

2:36:20

voices up the block, the children's feet rustling

2:36:22

in the dry leaves, kept hearing them, but

2:36:24

no one was there. He wasn't sure

2:36:27

he was even awake until he turned to go to the washroom in the

2:36:29

hall, and back in the house. When he entered

2:36:31

the hallway, the temperature seemed to drop to near freezing, and

2:36:33

each of the four bedroom doors slammed

2:36:36

shut simultaneously. There was

2:36:38

no further overt contact, but my

2:36:40

three-year-old sister had frequent night terrors over the next

2:36:42

two years. At one point, we had to

2:36:44

tie her to the bed so my mom and dad could rush in and

2:36:46

comfort her before she ran out of the house. When

2:36:49

we moved in, her room was wallpaper with bright

2:36:51

pink flowers on the walls and floor, a

2:36:54

clear attempt to hide something, even in 1974. My

2:36:57

mother decided to strip the paper from the floor to

2:36:59

refinish the wood. What she unveiled horrified

2:37:01

her. Exactly underneath my

2:37:04

sister's bed were two parallel, deeply

2:37:06

worn groups. My grandfather, a

2:37:08

carpenter, told my mom in the patch attempt had to

2:37:10

be more than 30, 40 years old because

2:37:12

it was just sawdust and horse glue. As

2:37:15

I was attending the Catholic school, my parents

2:37:17

invited a priest to come over. After doing research on the

2:37:19

house in the neighborhood, he unveiled the troubled history of the

2:37:22

house. Our house

2:37:24

was built in the mid-1800s and remained the sole house

2:37:26

on that hill until the mid-1930s. It

2:37:29

served for decades as the township's mental

2:37:31

asylum. The grooves on the floor

2:37:33

were from patients tied to the bed for years, rocking

2:37:35

back and forth. After the

2:37:37

house was diagnosed with my dad tried in vain to contact

2:37:39

the spirits. All activities stopped after the

2:37:42

priest's visit. My sister moved into a room with my

2:37:44

little brother. Her room was padlocked. I

2:37:46

remember every time I walked past that door, I ran

2:37:48

against the opposite wall with my tiny butthole sucked into

2:37:50

my lower back. I transferred

2:37:52

to a school to cross town. We put the house

2:37:54

on the market. Two consecutive renters left the

2:37:56

house inside of 30 days of moving in. It

2:37:58

took us three years. and my dad's

2:38:00

entire inheritance to sell it. We

2:38:03

moved to a house in the dunes of Southwestern Michigan in 1983

2:38:06

when another house went on the market just outside of town. My

2:38:08

dad jumped on it. He only told us

2:38:10

that a woman had recently hung herself in the

2:38:12

barn after we moved in, my God. A

2:38:15

nice new horrifying experience for my little sisters

2:38:17

were the bedroom closets each room

2:38:20

had were the

2:38:22

bedroom closets. Each had a

2:38:24

door for storage under the eaves, more tightening

2:38:26

of crinkle holes. My

2:38:28

dad frequently sat out in the barn drinking Olympia beer

2:38:30

with our dog Ollie and his goat Horny hoping to

2:38:33

make contact with dead spirits or with, you know, undead

2:38:35

spirits. To his lifelong

2:38:37

dismay, he never experienced any spirits.

2:38:39

Again, at least that

2:38:41

woman, sorry, to his lifelong, my God, to his

2:38:43

lifelong dismay, he never experienced the woman's spirit, the

2:38:46

woman who died in the home. We

2:38:48

just celebrated 10 years since his passing. We spread

2:38:50

his ashes off the town's beach in Lake Michigan.

2:38:52

My mother has since passed, but she will not

2:38:54

be interned in the same lake in Turd. My

2:38:57

father has always said it was death do us part.

2:38:59

They're both dead. Therefore, his wish is to be a

2:39:01

parent. All right, it is

2:39:04

my wish that this benevolent man find some spirits

2:39:06

in the storied lake where he rests, befriending the

2:39:08

thousands of sailors and unfortunate souls. When I die,

2:39:10

I too will be cremated. Alas, since

2:39:12

I'm a workaholic, I'll be placed in an hourglass so

2:39:14

I can keep working. Yes, this was

2:39:16

really long. If you read it, please dedicate it to

2:39:18

my wonderful father, Gary. Thanks, Big G. Well,

2:39:21

Big G, dedicated it is. Your dad sounds like he was

2:39:23

quite a character in the best of ways. I

2:39:26

love that he sought out a house where

2:39:30

someone had died tragically. Just

2:39:32

wanted to talk to spirits, hanging out in

2:39:34

the barn, drinking pilsners with a goat named

2:39:36

Horny, trying to contact a dead

2:39:38

woman. How are

2:39:40

the psychedelics with your dad? I'm pretty

2:39:42

funny about being married to his wife until death, but then wanting

2:39:45

nothing to do with her in the afterlife. And

2:39:47

I love the concept of ashes in an hourglass. Never

2:39:50

heard of that one. Thank you for the

2:39:52

ghost story. And now our third update, just cracked me

2:39:54

up. Comes in from Smart

2:39:56

Sack, Caroline Vogel, who's married to a

2:39:58

complete fucking idiot. She

2:40:00

sends in a subject line of,

2:40:02

you're making my husband stupid her. Dan

2:40:05

you wily bastard, she writes. Apparently

2:40:07

not sorry for the length of this email. If you don't like it,

2:40:09

kick rocks. I've been a long time

2:40:11

listening to Timesuck and as much as I try, I

2:40:13

cannot get my illegal husband Sean, not legally

2:40:15

married, but basically married, to listen to Timesuck.

2:40:18

He claims that you make him feel like chatting

2:40:20

because you get his mind working and because I

2:40:22

refuse to submit and won't let him pause the

2:40:24

episode to chat. JK, I

2:40:26

can't have him interrupt an episode and risking getting comments live.

2:40:29

I managed to get him to sit through parts of an

2:40:32

episode here and there and one of your gags came back

2:40:34

to get him nearly three years later. I love it so

2:40:36

much. We were driving last night

2:40:38

and I was telling him about the woman who has

2:40:40

gone viral on TikTok for making cinnamon rolls with yeast

2:40:42

from her yeast infection. Yuck. Mm-hmm.

2:40:45

I checked it out because you mentioned it. I said the

2:40:47

internet was praying it was fake, but she ended up getting

2:40:49

oral thrush from eating them. Sean

2:40:51

so casually goes, did you know that female

2:40:53

prisoners make prison wine with their yeast infections?

2:40:56

I dare take my eyes off the road to turn and look at him head

2:40:58

on. See if he was messing with me. He

2:41:00

misread my disbelief and continued. Yeah, I mean,

2:41:02

that's why it's called hooch, right? Hooch

2:41:05

like cooch. I was cackling.

2:41:08

I asked him if he knew where he heard that because he

2:41:10

likes to brew beer at home. So I was giving him the opportunity

2:41:12

to save himself by really thinking about what he was saying. Again,

2:41:15

he misreads and doubles down by saying, I didn't

2:41:17

make up the cooch thing. I didn't do that. As

2:41:19

if that was a problem. I told him

2:41:21

he was repeating some bullshit you had spread during

2:41:23

one of the prison episodes early in time suck.

2:41:26

He was so upset. He said

2:41:28

that it sounded rational because you need yeast because

2:41:30

XYZ and it's not his fault. You misled him.

2:41:33

I just kept laughing. He's a very good

2:41:35

sport. Encourage me to write it and tell the story. If you read

2:41:37

this on the show, please give a shout out to Sean. He's

2:41:40

always been an amazing source of both steadfast

2:41:42

support and reckless joy. He's

2:41:44

an amazing dog dad to our two big boys. But

2:41:47

his shortcoming is that he cannot get a single one of us

2:41:49

to submit. Thank you and the

2:41:51

crew for so much that you do moving across the

2:41:53

country. This past year was lonely, but lifting to your

2:41:55

episodes and the time sucker updates gave me a great

2:41:57

anchor while we figured it all out. All

2:41:59

the love. Caroline. Caroline,

2:42:02

yeah, thank you for the message. It really made me smile. Glad

2:42:05

I caught Sean. You're

2:42:09

a weak fellow shitty patriarch. I get

2:42:11

it, Sean. I can't get

2:42:13

my daughter, wife, or either female dog of ours to

2:42:15

submit. Actually, Lindsay was just teasing me the other

2:42:17

day, telling me that the dogs don't respect

2:42:19

me. And she might be right. I

2:42:22

just don't like to get after those dumb little babies too much.

2:42:24

A cooch wine, my God. I wonder

2:42:26

if anyone has ever made that. Also disturbing about

2:42:28

the cinnamon rolls, I can't tell if it's a hoax or

2:42:30

not. I hope so. I

2:42:33

also hope you keep enjoying this nonsense. And now one

2:42:35

more, very fascinating from

2:42:38

exorcism expert Jacob Harrison. Jacob

2:42:41

wrote in with a subject line of new a

2:42:43

priest who assisted in exorcisms. Jacob

2:42:46

writes, dear Stan, the bad magic man, emperor of dark

2:42:48

history on high and all around cool dude. Well,

2:42:51

thank you. I was so excited to hear this week's episode

2:42:53

of Time Suck because I have very interesting knowledge on the

2:42:55

rights of exorcisms. I went

2:42:57

to a private Catholic high school in Southern California,

2:42:59

and one of my teachers was a priest who

2:43:01

used to assist personally in exorcisms. One

2:43:04

Friday a month during school would be dedicated to

2:43:06

a free hour long period. He called exorcism Fridays.

2:43:08

I love it. Where we threw our

2:43:11

classwork out the window and got to ask any and all

2:43:13

questions our 14 and 50 year old

2:43:15

brains could possibly think about regarding exorcisms,

2:43:17

demonology, or the occult in general. Like

2:43:20

you said in the episode, curses and witches are still

2:43:22

recognized as beings in the church. And

2:43:24

upon hearing that one of my classmates asked, wait, if

2:43:27

which is a real, does that mean that werewolves

2:43:29

and vampires are real to cue

2:43:31

big laughs from everyone, including the priest teacher.

2:43:34

Now I'm going to share some fun and interesting facts taught

2:43:36

by the church about exorcisms. Share them on the pot or

2:43:39

not, but I figured they should go with your knowledge bank

2:43:41

as well since as

2:43:43

since or because you run a couple of scary

2:43:45

podcasts as well. All of the

2:43:47

following was taught to us by father Darren, father D we

2:43:49

called him, and I'm in no way claiming that this is

2:43:51

real or true. Just that he claimed

2:43:53

to have a lot of firsthand experience with this one.

2:43:57

The reason demons have knowledge of past sins that

2:43:59

you or the. that exorcists priests have committed

2:44:01

is because they can communicate with each other

2:44:03

almost immediately and across vast distances. If

2:44:06

one Mephistopheles saw you cranking

2:44:08

it a couple of years ago and

2:44:10

Baphomet possesses you, Mephistopheles can say, hey,

2:44:13

I saw this guy cranking it. Use

2:44:15

it to scare him. Telepathically,

2:44:17

of course. And tell they can

2:44:19

weaponize past actions against their targets. Two

2:44:22

only appointed people can exorcise a demon and they

2:44:24

know that. You got it exactly right in

2:44:26

the pot. A demon will know if you do

2:44:28

or don't have the required credentials to expel him. Father

2:44:31

D was once asked to take over the prayers while

2:44:33

the exorcist priests had to leave for an emergency. The

2:44:35

second Father D started saying the prayers.

2:44:37

The possessed person started saying, you don't

2:44:40

have permission. And laughing at Father D.

2:44:42

To properly exorcise a demon, you need to find out their true names

2:44:45

and they have no obligation to tell you their true

2:44:47

names if you're not qualified. Three,

2:44:50

the church actually very rarely recognizes possessions

2:44:52

and requires that the patient undergo severe

2:44:54

psychiatric treatment before declaring a proper exorcism

2:44:57

be performed. A very

2:44:59

few important observations need to be documented

2:45:01

before proceeding. The subject must

2:45:03

speak in a language that they are not

2:45:05

familiar with any capacity. If a

2:45:07

13-year-old boy from South Carolina starts speaking Greek,

2:45:09

oh boy, the body of the

2:45:11

subject must have some type of unexplained injury to

2:45:14

it, such as scratches. Bonus

2:45:16

points of words are written. This has

2:45:18

been photographically documented multiple times. The

2:45:20

subject must have objects move in

2:45:22

a poltergeist fashion without outside influence.

2:45:24

This includes the subject. They

2:45:26

may levitate themselves on rare occasions. Big bonus

2:45:29

points for that. The subject must talk

2:45:31

about a secret that only someone in the room would know. Finding

2:45:34

the subject must make sounds that cannot be explained as being

2:45:36

human. Exorcism priests do conduct interviews

2:45:38

to try and get these events to happen. They

2:45:41

all need to happen, be caught on camera or

2:45:43

documented by multiple eyewitnesses sent to the Vatican for

2:45:45

review along with medical documents, then approved and verified

2:45:47

before the church will give the green light. And

2:45:50

then finally, for a contrary to popular belief, demons usually

2:45:52

don't want to kill their subjects, just violently abuse them.

2:45:55

That means that anything involving what could kill a person is a

2:45:58

myth and hasn't been witnessed. Don't

2:46:00

be around back, don't break resorts, lead, etc

2:46:02

because the demon would just kill them and

2:46:04

and lose their power. Anyway,

2:46:07

Sorry, not sorry for the length of the

2:46:09

email. Three to five stars. Also catch phrases:

2:46:11

I'll be found All this information really interesting

2:46:13

father. he would be thrilled if you knew

2:46:15

was passed long as simple Thanks the amazing

2:46:17

show keep doing what you do And Jake

2:46:20

H. Milwaukee call to the curious plebe Ian.

2:46:23

Begley. Jr. Yeah, love learn a lot

2:46:25

like that. A little formalized at all.

2:46:27

It's. I mean is any this real

2:46:29

though or at this point my life. Ah,

2:46:32

I think it is at least some

2:46:34

of it legacy and scared to death.

2:46:36

It only takes one instance of save

2:46:38

demonic possession. To. Be real with one

2:46:40

inches in history to make it a real

2:46:42

possibility and thus make the world war magical.

2:46:44

Make as we have, I wait much of

2:46:46

what we currently think we know. It's.

2:46:54

We all did. Thank.

2:46:58

You plus into another bad Magic Prices

2:47:00

podcast. Scared to death time so to

2:47:02

each week sort sucks nightmare fuel on

2:47:04

the time such as good as his

2:47:06

podcast speeds. Some weeks on Fridays has

2:47:08

been working out. Please remember this we

2:47:10

got. You know better. I promise

2:47:13

you that. Does. I cannot Werewolf. Or

2:47:15

Frankenstein for Jfk Brothers? Or don't

2:47:18

suck anyone's blood to stay here.

2:47:20

And as use your ear thanks. To keep

2:47:23

on sucking. Sit.

2:47:38

As me don't vote counts I know,

2:47:40

I know, I'm not sell them right

2:47:42

now. The other the idea of putting

2:47:45

facilities is is to be viewed to

2:47:47

such a dehumanizing then reduction or relenza

2:47:49

Whatever one thinks all you could lose,

2:47:51

don't. I am so

2:47:53

much more little kindergarteners. Casillas

2:47:56

via Dreams desires needs I

2:47:58

could not resist. but

2:48:00

a beautiful woman's gentle touch. I

2:48:02

love to play midnight frisbee golf. Did

2:48:05

you know that? I'm very good at it. I

2:48:08

enjoy a nice bottle of scotch. I love

2:48:10

Costa Rica. So warm at night. I

2:48:12

enjoy a nice walk on the beach. And

2:48:15

sometimes, yes, I kill people, okay?

2:48:18

I need human blood. I

2:48:20

do not ask to be made this way. No

2:48:22

one is mad at the hawk for eating a snake.

2:48:24

That is just what hawks must do. And

2:48:27

I do what I must do. But no

2:48:29

one wants to hear about that. They just want

2:48:31

the counting. One, go fuck

2:48:33

yourself. Ah, ah, ah. Two, of

2:48:35

my fists up your ass. Ah,

2:48:38

ah, ah. Three, times

2:48:40

I kicked your pussy. Ah,

2:48:42

ah, ah. Four, times

2:48:44

I punched your dick. Ah, ah,

2:48:46

ah. Now go listen

2:48:48

to another podcast episode. This should have

2:48:50

ended probably 15, 30 minutes ago.

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