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instructions. What was your
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favorite immersive world when you were a teenager? Was
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it the world of muggles, wizards, and more of Harry Potter?
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Lord of the Rings, Middle Earth? Westeros from
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Game of Thrones? The continent from
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The Witcher? That Star Wars galaxy that's far,
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far away? Or maybe the world of
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ancient vampires finally coming out of the shadows and meeting
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the rest of us lowly meat sacks in true blood.
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I would say favorite book, game, movie, or TV
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show, but to many of us, these collections of
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stories were, and maybe still are, so much more
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than that. They're not just pieces
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of disposable media that we watch and quickly
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forget. They're immersive and escapist
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worlds that we can enter and
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live in through our imaginative minds' eyes. They're
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places where we mentally spent so much time
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in that in some ways, these worlds felt
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every bit as real. as our own.
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Maybe still do. When we concentrated
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enough, we could really picture ourselves living there.
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Maybe we were superheroes, throwing fireballs, flying
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over the city, saving it from evil,
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scores of women below, dreaming for the chance
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to be chosen by us. What an ego
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stroke. As kids, sure, we
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knew that the world around us was real, that
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our parents could actually legally tell us what to do,
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that if we walked out of class because our teacher
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was a douchebag, there's going to be consequences. If
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we said the wrong words to the wrong kid at school,
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we would still very likely get our asses kicked. But
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despite having to live in this world and play by its
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rules, many of us still held out
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hope that maybe, just maybe, there
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was a chance that we could figure out how to bend
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the laws of this world and go live in another. And
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for some of us, that itty bitty chance was enough to
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kind of believe our friends when they
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said they, I don't know, knew someone who could
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raise the dead with some kind of necromancy spell
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or that they had a cousin who, no shit,
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swear to God, really was a vampire, sleeps in
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a coffin and everything. For some
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of us, probably a lot of us listening to
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this show, there was a time when it truly
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was tricky to always be able to tell where
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the line between imagination, wishful thinking, and just being
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completely full of shit was drawn. But
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then for damn near all of us, that
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inability to tell the difference between what is
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definitely real and what is nothing more
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than fantasy, it fades as
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we grow into our later teens. Sure,
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we can still get emotionally lost in the
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nostalgia of loving a series of books or
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movies, but we're not walking around literally claiming
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to be a witch, a wizard, a high
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elf, or a vampire. Not
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only claiming that, but truly believing our own
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claim. But for a small
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handful of us, the desire to truly be a
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part of our favorite fantasy world does not fade.
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Instead, it deepens. And some of us
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start to detach a bit from reality and not in a
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fun, harmless way. This is what seems
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to have happened with Rod Farrell. Rod
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was introduced to the world of vampires as a
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kid, and he liked it, loved it, really
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loved it. He truly wanted to become
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a vampire. And it seems as if
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he actually started to really think he was a
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vampire. as did some of his friends. The
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world of vampire lore offered him
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an escape from his extremely troubled
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home life. His dour religious grandparents,
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possibly a predatory grandfather, his rebellious,
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also possibly predatory mother. Instead
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of feeling like shit or like a nobody, a
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poor kid living in a small Kentucky town where
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almost no one seemed to understand him, Rod
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could instead feel like an
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ancient, immortal vampire, someone both
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powerful and feared. Inspired
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largely by the role-playing vampire of
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the masquerade, Rod developed a
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character for himself named Visago, a 500-ish year
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old European aristocat who
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decided to reincarnate in the
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body of an American teenage boy. And it
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is aristocrat. I don't know why that world has set itself
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far to me when I've said it a
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thousand times in my life. Anyway, Rod wasn't the
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only teen in Murray, Kentucky to go full vampire.
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He was just the only one to go full evil
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vampire, the only one willing to
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coldly kill to keep his vampiric adventure going. The
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wild story of Rod Farrell and the
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vampire murders, right now on another
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true crime, not quite cult, but cult-ish,
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super weird, what the hell was going on
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in small town Kentucky in the 90s? So
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glad this is not my life edition of
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Time Suck. This is Michael McDonald and you're
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listening to Time Suck. Happy
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Monday and welcome to the Cult of the
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Curious. I'm Dan Kelman, Sir Sucksabit, fourth
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dimensional astral traveler, dream interpreter, poor
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man's Rod Surly, and you are
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listening to Time Suck. I should have
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added a guy who suddenly struggles with aristocrat. I
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married to a good, wholesome, very
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And now let's go full vampire. After you
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make sure you're not listening to this
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episode anywhere near sunlight, unless you want to
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eye out for wooden crosses, steaks, I
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sure you're familiar, is standing guard
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before you put on your noise cancellation headphones.
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And now enjoy, you beautiful, bloodsucking
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son of a bitch. In
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a lot of ways, Today's Suck feels like a strange
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corollary to our episode about Dungeons and Dragons
7:59
while back. Except while the
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fears of getting lost in D&D or AD&D
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were unfounded, some of today's
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characters did get dangerously lost
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in a role-playing game. Remember
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James Dallas Egbert III? He
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was that child prodigy in TechWiz who enrolled at Michigan
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State University at the age of 16. He
8:18
also had epilepsy, was struggling with
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his own homosexuality and parental pressure,
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which led to depression, which led to his
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disappearance from campus in 1979, still only 16 years old. After
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leaving behind a suicide note. Oh,
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and he played a little bit of Dungeons and Dragons. And
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D&D was initially, at least in the
8:36
media, blamed almost entirely for his disappearance.
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His parents hired William Deer, a
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private investigator and complete and utter nut job,
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to help determine their son's whereabouts when police couldn't find
8:47
him. While examining the board with
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a pattern of pushpins found in James' dorm room,
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Deer saw between the lines. He realized that
8:54
the arrangement of the pins suggested, at least
8:56
to him, no one else, the shape of
8:58
various campus buildings, including the power plants. Deer
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was a master of connecting dots. Dots
9:04
that were actually largely never there, but he connected
9:06
them all the same. And
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Deer was then able to get permission to search the
9:10
steam tunnels under the school based on the power plant
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design. Deer also disclosed some
9:14
of his multiple theories regarding why James disappeared
9:16
to the media, but decided to
9:19
keep some of the information private, like the
9:21
best information. Notably, anything related to specific personal
9:23
problems, such as James' depression and
9:26
other less sensational factors. However,
9:28
he did discuss the notion that Egbert might
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have entered the tunnels, probably did, almost certainly
9:33
did enter them while playing a live action
9:35
version of D&D. Also called
9:37
Larping, live action role playing, where
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players act out scenarios on location instead of sitting
9:42
around a table. Deer also
9:44
advanced the idea that some players might, on
9:46
occasion, actually believe they are in
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fact their character. And
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that Egbert was almost certainly wandering around somewhere
9:52
in that kind of state, you know, thinking he was
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on some kind of fucking Dragon Quest, looking for some
9:57
monsters to slay or some shit. 4%
10:00
speculation built upon more speculation and
10:03
the press ran wild with it. The national
10:05
media, taken with the novelty of
10:07
the very thin connection between the
10:09
game and egg-verse disappearance, pushed all
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sorts of imaginative, sensationalist musings presented
10:13
as facts, bullshit into articles, newscasts,
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and more. For many
10:17
listening, watching and reading, a link
10:20
between Dungeons and Dragons, occult behavior,
10:22
mind control, general insanity,
10:24
and more was a done fucking deal. As
10:27
theory got so much interest, Deer ended up writing a
10:29
book about it all, called the Dungeon Master,
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the Disappearance of James Dallas Egg-verse III. But
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what really happened to James? Well, he didn't get lost in
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the world of D&D. His disappearance didn't
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have jack shit to do with D&D. He just wanted
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to escape his life. After
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hiding in Michigan for a few days, he took a bus to New Orleans,
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attempted suicide with cyanide, lived,
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made it to Morgan City, Louisiana, worked
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on an oil field just a few days before he
10:53
was found by William Deer. Who
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knew damn well that James taking off didn't have
10:58
shit to do with an RPG, but he still
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went ahead and wrote his book anyway. Deer
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dropped him off with James' uncle, Marvin Gross.
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In September of 1979, he enrolled in Wright
11:07
State University in Dayton, Ohio, near his parents'
11:09
home, studying computer science, working for
11:12
his dad at an eyeglass store. And
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then on August 11, 1980, James,
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now 17 years old, sadly, tragically,
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shot himself in the head and died at the
11:21
hospital. And his death had nothing
11:23
to do with Dungeons and Dragons. But
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you wouldn't know that, based on sensationalist
11:27
reporting that continued after his death. Dungeons
11:31
and Dragons will not likely lead you to getting so lost
11:33
in a fantasy world that you lose your mind and do
11:35
something like take your own life. Yet, however,
11:38
very likely may lead you into spending
11:40
a lot of time staying up late
11:42
with other imaginative folks, painting little pewter
11:44
figurines, adorbs, carrying battle axes, and sexy
11:46
elven enchantresses, sexual fantasies where you beat
11:48
off to thoughts of fucking some sexy
11:50
sorcerer, spending too much money on books,
11:53
boards, dice, that kind of shit. The
11:55
story of James Dallas Egbert III is not a good one
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when it comes to trying to depict fantasy roles.
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playing games as dangerous escapism. Today's
12:03
story, however, is a good story that
12:05
does illustrate how some people can, in
12:07
fact, get dangerously lost in immersive
12:09
fantasy worlds. Shows how some
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teens, many if not all with terrible home lives,
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did get lost in a fantasy that just
12:16
felt so much better than their real
12:18
crappy ass lives. In our
12:20
world, they were poor, picked
12:22
on, abused, marginalized,
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dismissed, teased for
12:27
being weird, losers, overall
12:29
fuck-ups. So they chose
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to live in a new world, the world of
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darkness, the world of vampire, the masquerade, where
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they were powerful vampires who either believed they were immortal
12:38
and could do shit like conjure spirits and see and
12:40
speak with the dead for starters, or they
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believed that certain other members of their coven could really
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do these things. They were part
12:47
of something incredibly special. They were brave enough
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to leave the norms and limitations of this
12:51
world behind and step into a dark world
12:53
of power and pleasure forbidden to the Judeo-Christian
12:55
culture they'd been born into. Today's
12:57
true story illustrates that in rare instances,
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kids can get way too fucking in
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to a role-playing game, such
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as the one about vampires, right? Where they
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can start thinking that they are a vampire. They can
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start believing that they can control people and turn others
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into vampires. They can convince other kids that they do
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have dark powers. And all of
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this can, in fact, lead to murder, at
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least partially. Other factors are definitely
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also at play for sure in today's story. Rod
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Farrell might have killed anyway. But
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maybe not. Rod Farrell was just 16
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when he committed a double homicide. And maybe he
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did so because he didn't feel like he was 16. Maybe
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he did so in part because he felt ancient.
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Immortal. He was no longer
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the weird goth kid who was never picked first for
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dodgeball or any other game in gym class. He
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was no longer the kid that most other kids really
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hoped, prayed. They did not get stuck with when they
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had to work on a group project. Thin,
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with a pale complexion, long hair that hung over
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his face, prone to saying weird creepy shit about
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being a vampire. Rod was definitely
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an outcast. In this world. But
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in his mind, and with a few members of his
13:59
coven, He was God. Rod
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had been carefully constructing a background for himself since
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he was at a young age, possibly as
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young as five when his mom, Sondra, introduced
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him to scary movies, horror
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fiction, New Age spirituality, and
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the RPG Vampire The Masquerade.
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A little bit later for that game, actually,
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but introduced him to the world of vampire
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lore, for sure, before the game. So
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let's talk about this game a bit before setting the
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stage for today's story, and then diving into
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the details in the timeline. Vampire
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The Masquerade is a tabletop role-playing game
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created by Mark Rinehagen, originally released in
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1991 by White Wolf Publishing.
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Quickly became a top 10 seller for RPGs for that
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year, five years later, in a 1996 reader poll
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by Arcane Magazine to
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determine the 50 most popular role-playing games
14:46
of all time. Vampire The
14:48
Masquerade was ranked number six. Editor
14:51
Paul Pettengale commented, heh
14:55
heh, random words, it's just gonna be a struggle today, that's cool. Vampire
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has always proved the most popular of the world
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of darkness games, a testament both to
15:02
the continuing appeal of the vampire itself and
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to the structure and design of the game. Like
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all of the storyteller range, it's not an easy
15:09
game to get right, and it relies heavily on
15:11
both the players and the referee putting a lot
15:13
of effort and imagination into their roles. With
15:16
a good group, though, it could be
15:18
an immensely interesting and thought-provoking game and
15:20
one of the most effective horror RPGs
15:22
around. Despite a tendency to take
15:24
itself a little seriously, Vampire The
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Masquerade has a great deal to offer
15:28
the more mature and serious gamer. This
15:31
game is set in a fictionalized, gothic punk version
15:33
of the modern world where players
15:36
assume the role of vampires, who are
15:38
referred to as nerds, I
15:40
mean as kindred, and deal
15:42
with their night-to-night struggles against their own beastial
15:44
natures, vampire hunters and each other. Ryan
15:47
Hagan felt that hunting vampires as a game premise
15:50
would get boring, so he came up
15:52
with the idea of a game where the players were the
15:54
vampires instead of hunting them. And for
15:56
the most part, these vampires, they're not good people,
15:59
although there is my In the game, and if
16:01
you butcher people all willy-nilly, you will not be rewarded
16:03
and you can lose control of your character permanently, you
16:06
also need to feed on human blood to keep your character going.
16:09
And many of the 13 different vampire clans in the game are
16:12
decidedly of an evil, let's destroy humanity
16:14
kind of nature. This
16:16
game came out long before Twilight, a more
16:18
recent depiction of vampires being pretty decent, upstanding
16:21
undead folk, living righteously,
16:23
only eating animals or whatever. Back
16:25
around when Rod was starting to play this game, the
16:28
most popular piece of vampire media in pop culture was
16:31
1994's Interview with a Vampire, that boxed-office
16:33
smash starring Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt,
16:36
Barry Young, Kirsten Dunst, Christian
16:38
Slater, and Antonio Banderas,
16:40
Maserati Bugatti, Vasachis, Fagari Antonio
16:43
Banderas. This movie was
16:45
based on best-selling author Anne Rice's popular 1976 novel of
16:47
the same name.
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It was Anne's first of 13 books, collectively known
16:53
as The Vampire Chronicles, revolving around
16:55
the fictional character of L'Esteat de
16:57
l'Encourt, 18th century
16:59
French nobleman played by Tom Cruise, who became
17:02
an immortal vampire that ends up in New
17:04
Orleans. Prior to the
17:06
movie and Rice's books, 1992's Bram
17:08
Stoker's Dracula, always want to
17:10
say Stroker, always want to say Bram Stroker, every
17:14
time, starring Gary
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Oldman, Anthony Hopkins, Winona Ryder,
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Keanu, Nat Kanu, Reeves, another
17:21
massive box office of empiric success, based
17:24
on Bram Stoker's 1897
17:26
novel Dracula, in this
17:29
movie, the historical subject Vlad Dracula,
17:32
former suck subject Vlad the Impaler, dude
17:35
who loved a human shish kebab more than any other man in
17:37
history, who becomes a vampire in
17:39
1462 after defeating the Ottoman Empire in
17:41
a military campaign, only to return
17:43
to his castle and find his wife dead. Enraged
17:46
at God, after being told her soul
17:48
was now damned to hell for committing
17:50
suicide, he desecrates a chapel, renounces God,
17:53
and becomes a monster. fucking
18:00
great for being close to 500 years old and
18:03
where he is also an evil dude
18:05
naughty boy guy who views
18:07
human life as being very very disposable. A couple
18:10
years before that movie, 1987 is the
18:12
Lost Boys. Made being a vampire
18:14
look pretty damn cool. I thought it made vampires look cool
18:16
when I was a kid. Most of
18:18
the vampires in that movie, they didn't give a shit about taking
18:20
human life. Rest in peace,
18:22
Corey Hain by the way. Also rest
18:25
in peace, Lost Boys franchise. Should
18:27
have never made a sequel. Definitely should
18:29
have never turned it into a trilogy. Anyway
18:32
two years before the first and only Good Lost Boys
18:34
film, it was Fright Night. Second highest grossing
18:36
horror film of 1985 surpassed only by a Nightmare
18:39
on Elm Street 2, Freddy's Revenge. Another
18:41
film based on the premise of the evil
18:43
murderous vampire. There was also the 1975 Stephen
18:45
King bestseller, Salem's
18:48
Lot. Book about a little
18:50
town in Maine where the residents are quickly
18:52
becoming vampires thanks to the ancient bloodsucker Kurt
18:54
Barlow attacking resident after resident and
18:56
I could go on and on. Only
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want to share one more. Arguably the
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most popular and enduring vampire
19:03
character of the past 50 times years.
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Oh
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greetings, it is I the Count
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and it's time to answer that
19:20
fascinating question. What is
19:22
the Sesame Street number of the day?
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I don't know. Let's
19:27
count the bats and
19:29
find out. Oh there's
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one. One bat. Okay. Oh
19:34
there's another one. Two bats. Yeah.
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Three. Three fabulous flyers.
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Ah ah ah. Terrifying.
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Yes I did play that exact clip I believe in some form
19:46
during another episode in the past few years. Just can't
19:48
remember which one. And no
19:50
the count of course did not help lure Rod into the
19:52
dark side. Pretty funny if that was true.
19:55
Getting Rod was familiar with most if not all of
19:57
this media and for the most part outside of occasional
19:59
exception. like Anne Rice's Louis de
20:02
Pointe du Lac, played by
20:04
Brad Pitt. These vampires were again dark
20:06
and powerful antagonists of the human race. Humans
20:10
feared and despised them just like a lot
20:12
of Rod's peers feared and despised him. He
20:14
saw himself in these vampires, right? He
20:17
despised them back, just like most of the vampires from the vampire lore of the
20:19
80s and 90s did. And along
20:21
comes Vampire, the masquerade, a
20:23
game where you could become, at least in its world of darkness setting,
20:27
one of these powerful evil vampires. Like Rod
20:29
was ready. Hell yeah! Vampire,
20:31
the masquerade, was one of the first pieces
20:33
of vampire media to both combine vampires with
20:35
a steampunk, futuristic world and
20:38
to develop tropes about individual vampires into
20:40
a highly complex social system. Ryan
20:43
Hagen recast the biblical Cain as
20:45
the father of all vampires, taking inspiration
20:47
from the education he'd received as a child
20:49
of a Lutheran minister. He wanted
20:51
the central concept to be something simple but powerful, which
20:54
he replicated all the way down to the cover photo, a
20:56
rose on a green marble table, the
20:58
game overall not simple, incredibly
21:01
immersive and complex, focusing on
21:03
plots, intrigue and story as opposed to the
21:05
more straightforward dungeon scenarios of A, D and
21:07
D, those
21:10
type of role-playing games when VTM came out. While
21:13
the RPG industry in general has been trending towards,
21:16
or had been trending towards a more narrative approach
21:18
for quite some time, Vampire was one of the
21:20
first games of its kind to really center on
21:22
it. The vampires were given an extensive
21:24
list of broad supernatural powers called disciplines,
21:27
which included superior strength, speed and toughness,
21:30
as well as other powers such as
21:32
mystic senses, mind control and blood magic.
21:35
The 13 clans added late in the development
21:37
process provided a much needed character class system
21:40
based on vampiric archetypes. But
21:43
if you couldn't afford all the game
21:45
material about clans, you could also, and
21:47
still also, can just be a basic
21:49
generic vampire. And you can use,
21:52
you know, the bit of money that you've saved to
21:54
buy a generic vampire action doll if you really want
21:56
to get into it, from the very
21:58
fine folks who make the action he-
22:00
Hero People Figures. Oh hell yeah. New
22:04
from the makers of Fighting Man,
22:06
Atomic Man, Flying Guy, Warrior Woman,
22:08
Attack Cat, Prophet Jeffrey and Kami
22:10
Guru, it's Vampire Boy
22:12
and Vampire Girl. Do
22:15
you wanna be a little naughty
22:17
vampire? Suckin'
22:19
blood and causing trouble, sunlight, hide
22:22
on the double. Do you
22:24
wanna be a little naughty vampire? A
22:28
monster with scary teeth, a spooky
22:30
bat hanging by its feet. Do
22:32
you wanna be a little naughty
22:34
vampire? A real
22:36
scary girl or boy, better buy
22:38
this vampire toy. Complete your
22:40
action hero people set today. Fighting
22:43
Man, Flying Guy, Warrior Woman, Attack
22:45
Cat, Atomic Man, Prophet Jeffrey, Kami
22:47
Guru, and now Vampire Boy and
22:49
Vampire Girl. Karate Lady
22:51
and Spy Person are probably not coming soon
22:53
anymore, since sales are way, way
22:55
down, and our corporate masters,
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Bear Evil Incorporated, will probably soon dismantle
23:00
us and sell us off in pieces.
23:05
God, fuckin' sounds like you better buy that Vampire Boy
23:07
and Vampire Girl doll pretty quick. Tough
23:10
times for the action hero people set people.
23:13
Anyway, don't even worry about it if you don't understand
23:15
where that guy came from. It has nothing to do
23:17
with this topic. Vampire
23:21
the Masked Great character class clan system, and
23:23
all the ways you can customize your character within its clan,
23:26
prove very popular with players, especially big groups of
23:28
teens who wanted to both feel like they were
23:30
members of a secret club, but also feel like
23:33
they were unique individuals within that secret
23:35
club. But there was another
23:37
draw for teenagers as well, the concept
23:39
of the beast. VTM
23:42
made use of a lot of existing
23:44
vampiric folklore, like immortality, thirst for blood,
23:46
undead status, pale skin, heightened
23:49
intelligence, sophistication, but they
23:51
also introduced something new, the beast. The
23:54
beast is a savage carnal predatory drive
23:57
within all vampires. That
24:00
fucker? Mostly beast at this
24:02
point. One innocent
24:05
child I killed. Ha ha
24:07
ha ha. Two innocent child
24:09
I killed. Ha ha ha.
24:11
But for real. The
24:14
beast takes only to satisfy its base urge to
24:16
survive. Anger, mortal threats, hunger, or
24:18
bloodlust are some of the things that can cause
24:20
the beast to rise. The beast
24:22
is capable of taking over the vampire's consciousness, their
24:25
conscious mind, force them into
24:27
a frenzied state where they take violent,
24:30
often deeply regrettable actions that they otherwise
24:32
might not. One of
24:34
the major themes of vampire is character's battles
24:36
to strike a balance between their violent predatory
24:38
nature and being at least a little morally
24:40
responsible before their humanity is completely
24:42
overtaken by this powerful force within themselves. This
24:45
could be read as a lesson for all people. Learn
24:48
how to balance your worst, most
24:50
base impulses, or you're going
24:52
to suffer the consequences. It could also
24:54
be seen now as a license to do whatever you want,
24:56
no matter how cruel or terrible. You couldn't really
24:58
help it. You were simply overtaken by
25:00
the beast. You drank a
25:02
bit. Too much vampire blood. Wait
25:04
up! Oh! And shit went
25:06
off the rails. What'd you guys do? He didn't ask
25:08
for the beast. You were made a beast. When
25:10
you got turned into a fucking bloodthirsty undead vampire. BTM
25:14
became Rod's escape from this world. He loved the
25:16
beast. He wanted to give in to the
25:18
beast and punish a world that had to be fair. Punish
25:21
him quite often. BTM was his
25:23
way out of his massively unstable home life, which
25:25
involved an absentee dad and a mom who quite
25:27
possibly molested him, never held down a job for
25:29
long, often resorted to sex work or bumming off
25:31
her parents when she didn't feel like showing up
25:33
to a job. Rod also
25:35
partially was raised by his maternal grandparents,
25:38
devout Pentecostals, horrified and embarrassed by the
25:40
choices of their daughter, Sondra. They
25:42
never wanted her to get pregnant at 16, or even go
25:44
out in pants or wear makeup or really have any much
25:46
fun at all. BTM Sondra took
25:49
her rebellion against their wishes too far, but
25:51
then would come crawling back from time to time when she needed money or
25:53
a place to stay. And also, Rod's
25:55
grandpa may have created the darkness that Rod and his mom
25:57
got wrapped up in when he allegedly There was so
25:59
much chaos and pain in Rod's
26:01
childhood. Understandably,
26:04
he didn't much care for his real life, so he
26:06
invented a new one. He gave
26:08
himself a background that didn't start off in backwoods,
26:11
Central Florida or Bumfuck, Kentucky, but instead
26:13
in France. In the 1400s,
26:15
vampire Rod had been a filthy rich,
26:17
handsome as fuck, a wrist of cracked noise.
26:20
He was respected, powerful, feared, super handsome.
26:23
Probably a big old fat dick
26:25
too. He was a vampire
26:27
giga-chat, wrist and dick and
26:29
skull-moggin' the fuck out of lowly medieval
26:32
Melvins and crushing so much giga-stacy-puss and
26:34
just riding around crashing women's bicycles, anyone
26:36
that he wanted. And his name
26:38
was Roderick. No, it was way cooler. It
26:40
was Vassago, which is very
26:42
likely a nod to a demon found in some
26:44
old occult literature. Just Vassago
26:46
spelled a different way. Vassago was a go-edic
26:49
demon in the occult literary work we became familiar with
26:51
a few weeks ago. And the exorcisms suck.
26:53
The Lesser Key of Solomon. I might
26:56
have mentioned that in the, I think we mentioned that in
26:58
the West Baptist three as well. The
27:00
grimoire spell book that deals with demonology.
27:03
Vassago was third in command of the spirits
27:05
of Satan's army of rebellious angels, according to
27:07
occult belief, and possessed special powers
27:09
such as fortune telling. Well, fuck that. Well,
27:12
Rod Vassago, Rod Sago, if you will,
27:15
he neither liked the bourgeoisie that he was a part of back
27:17
in France, nor the peasants that
27:20
he ruled over. So he decided to let his soul
27:22
undertake a 500 or so year slumber. He
27:24
went into a bit of a vampiric hibernation.
27:27
You got to recharge those bloodless batteries every
27:30
once in a while so he can get even stronger. You
27:32
know, be able to fang mong or
27:34
fang mong. There we go. Any and
27:36
all other vampires. You're a fucking gigadracula.
27:39
While he slept, his spirit had access to the ancient
27:41
worlds of the Arabians, the Egyptians, the Greeks. Also
27:44
access to a set of entities he called the
27:47
elders whom he could commune with in the vast
27:49
darkness. He accumulated all kinds
27:51
of knowledge, almost certainly found ancient
27:53
library of Alexandria scrolls that allowed him to
27:55
shoot fireballs. And he went on a lot
27:57
of bitchin' astral adventures. to
28:00
be reborn. He decided to emerge, cloaked
28:02
as an American teen, a teen who
28:04
would be the ultimate rebel. So
28:07
why America? Why not back to Europe? Well,
28:09
the saga, I mean, Rod, Rod saga, would
28:11
later say that he regarded himself as
28:13
a satanic vampire. satanic
28:15
and so powerful. He was an equal to God.
28:18
And since America was the most sinful country on earth, filled
28:21
to the brim with greed and
28:23
corruption here in the United States
28:26
of debauchery, he would
28:28
find the devil worshipers he needed to complete his army.
28:31
Rod wouldn't have liked those twilight post
28:33
vamps. For him, vampires were supposed to
28:35
be full evil. By the
28:37
time Rod was a teen, while most of his evil vampire
28:39
talk and brooding demeanor turned off a lot of his peers,
28:42
some were drawn to his bad boy,
28:44
rebel persona, he was like
28:46
James Dean. If James
28:49
Dean was a lot less attractive, painted his fingernails
28:51
black, wore a mesh crop top, and was actually not
28:53
at all like James Dean, but more like Marilyn Manson
28:55
minus any and all musical talent. Not
28:58
visually appealing to most girls with his long, narrow
29:00
nose, pale skin, claw like nails and thin body. For
29:03
some, there was something darkly
29:05
charismatic about old Rod saga. God's
29:07
equal. Rod dog, God Rod,
29:10
even if he was also a little repulsive. Rod
29:13
God did have flowing black hair, a
29:15
bit below shoulder length and silky. He usually
29:17
kept a tie back and ponytail. He
29:19
did have yeah, great hair. I'll give him that. Also,
29:21
a real good talker. Spoke eloquently
29:23
about good and evil, proclaiming calmly and
29:25
confidently that he was a fallen angel,
29:27
capital F, capital A, the
29:29
Antichrist, as a matter of fact.
29:32
And he had a good mind for both philosophy and
29:34
politics, keeping track of international affairs the way most 16
29:36
year olds did not. He
29:38
said crazy shit, like how Saddam Hussein
29:40
was the fourth Antichrist. He
29:42
would say so casually and seriously, few kids
29:44
believed him. He knows things. He
29:47
had a personality a lot like an emerging cult leader. You
29:50
don't got to win them all. Right? Just
29:52
like one out of 1000. If you really get them in, you
29:55
can start accumulating a nice little
29:57
following. Central Florida, he would
29:59
make two close. friends by sharing his elaborate
30:01
fantasy world musings, but maybe in
30:03
Rod's mind, real world musings, two
30:06
young girls named Janine LeClaire and Heather
30:08
Wendorf. But not long after befriending them,
30:10
dating one of them and having the other want to date him,
30:13
family instability reared his ugly head again and he
30:15
had to move back to Murray, Kentucky. While
30:18
Rod Dogg Godrod did not look forward
30:20
to returning to Murray, he did find a
30:22
meet up with some birds of a blood sucking familiar
30:24
feather. He hooked up with
30:26
what he found out to be a surprising
30:28
amount of local vampire enthusiasts and eventually he
30:31
would form his own dock coven. This
30:33
coven's main meet up spot was called the
30:35
Vampire Hotel. A dilapidated destruction of
30:38
the middle of the woods near Kentucky Lake and the land between
30:40
the lakes. There his vampire
30:42
clan would throw parties, use
30:44
psychedelics and take part in
30:46
various types of vampire, vampiric rituals. Rituals
30:48
they took so seriously, some started
30:51
to have a hard time understanding what was real and
30:53
what was pretend. Was Rod
30:55
actually a vampire as he said or was
30:57
he just goofing around for fun? Bit of
30:59
escapism. Some kids later swore
31:01
they saw him turn into a 9 foot
31:03
tall demon with their own eyes. Other
31:06
said he sacrificed animals. Almost
31:08
everybody saw him drink human blood. He encouraged
31:11
everyone else to drink blood, many did. And
31:14
some of these kids, these three
31:16
teenagers would follow Rod to Eustace,
31:18
Florida in November of 1996 to
31:20
begin a vampiric journey around the
31:22
world. New Orleans, Cairo,
31:24
Rome, meeting up with
31:27
ancient vampiric brethren and reclaiming
31:29
Visago's ancestral tassel in Wales.
31:32
I thought I'd be in France, but whatever. Rod's
31:34
minions knew he was a violent but he was
31:36
a bad-boiled friend, a constant-flurred, aggressive manipulator who did
31:38
as many drugs as he could get his hands
31:40
on but maybe, just maybe, he
31:43
was also a legit vampire. And he
31:45
could lead them into immortality. Ah,
31:48
to be a teenager again, right? When
31:50
the most ridiculous bullshit could feel so real, I
31:53
still daydream every day and live all
31:56
kinds of lives to my head. Oh man, the
31:58
adventures I go on internally every single day. But
32:01
when I was a teenager, damn if I
32:03
didn't almost truly convince myself that a lot of
32:05
these wild fantasies could for sure come true. I
32:08
actually thought that maybe I could find stuff
32:10
like a portal to another dimension in the woods. I
32:12
thought I might just be able to really control some shit with
32:14
my mind. And I bet at one
32:17
time or another, I thought that maybe I could be a real vampire. Maybe
32:19
like a real vampire would show up in my life. You
32:22
know, a super sexy one probably, like
32:24
Kate Beckinsale's Celine in the Underworld franchise.
32:27
Hail, Lucifina! Holy shit! I'm a little bit
32:29
of a bitch, actually. And she would truly convert me. And
32:32
I would leave my little Idaho town and travel the world
32:34
and be immortal and fuck a whole bunch and, you know,
32:36
for sure kill a lot of lichen werewolves and, you know,
32:38
hail Nimra. As crazy
32:40
as that story is, to an extent, maybe more than
32:42
I care for a moment, I do get it. I
32:45
get the appeal of getting lost in your own little world.
32:47
I mean, hell, I made my own
32:49
little world right here for you to listen to and for
32:51
me to get lost in every week. I
32:53
get it. But they took this shit way too
32:55
far. God got way too lost
32:57
in his made-up vampiric story. And
32:59
now let's spend a couple of hours getting lost
33:01
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Timeline. Rod
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was born Roderick Justin Farrell. March
38:29
28, 1980 in Murray, Kentucky with
38:31
the umbilical cord wrapped around his neck. Almost
38:34
stillborn. God tried to kill him. God tried
38:36
to kill a little vampire, but the devil cut the
38:38
cord. Rod's difficult birth
38:40
could be interpreted as an omen of sorts for his
38:42
difficult life. Even leaving the womb was more
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traumatic for Rod than it is for the average meat sack.
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Rod would be the first and only child of
38:50
his very young parents, Rick Farrell and Sondra Gibson,
38:52
both in grade school when Sondra got pregnant. Back
38:55
in 6th grade, Sondra in 3rd, kids
38:57
have always grown up fast, too fast in
39:00
Murray, Kentucky. Now there were
39:02
teenagers still in high school when Sondra got
39:04
pregnant. It wasn't quite that bad. Rick's exact age never listed,
39:06
not even in court records. Only said he was a teenager
39:08
still in high school. Sondra
39:10
just 16 when she got pregnant, 17 when she gave
39:12
birth to Rod. The two got married
39:14
9 days after Rod was born, but then separated
39:16
a few weeks later, quickly got divorced and would
39:18
never get back together again. Rod's
39:21
dad would remain in his life barely
39:24
until he was 8 years old when
39:26
he would completely and totally abandon his
39:28
son. Fuckin' dads! After
39:31
Rod turned 8, Rick wouldn't see him again
39:33
until Rod's trial for a double homicide. At
39:35
the trial, he wouldn't even refer to his son by name. Rick
39:38
would consistently call Rod the child. So
39:41
that's super cool. One of the
39:43
only times Rod would show any emotion at all during
39:45
his trial was when his dad took the witness stand
39:47
and his defense attorney spoke with him about how Rod
39:49
never even got a card on his birthday, or Christmas,
39:51
from his father. When Rod committed
39:53
his killings, the wounds of being abandoned were still pretty
39:55
fresh and deep. Rick spoke of
39:58
how manipulative, argumentative, and confrontational... Rod's
40:00
mother, Sondra, was, as did
40:02
Rick's mother, Betty Jean Farrell, who actually went to
40:04
court when Rod was young to try and get
40:06
visitation rights, and Sondra ended up shooting
40:08
those down. Rick, not
40:10
a good dad, and as we'll soon
40:12
see, while she never completely abandoned her child, Sondra,
40:15
definitely not a good mom, not by any stretch
40:17
of the imagination. Rick
40:19
said at Rod's trial that by the time
40:21
his son, the child, was eight, in 1988,
40:24
he just, quote, gave up trying to have
40:26
a relationship with him. By
40:28
that point, he joined the armed forces, and then
40:30
he would go on to get a bachelor's and
40:32
a master's degree in aviation technology and build himself
40:35
a pretty respectable career in the
40:37
airline insurance industry. Little Rod
40:39
would end up staying with his mother,
40:41
Sondra's parents, Harold and Rosetta Gibson, and
40:43
Harold may have molested him. Per
40:46
court documents, the grandfather
40:48
he has continuously referred to with regard to
40:50
the sexual abuse allocation is his
40:53
maternal grandfather. This evidence is supported
40:55
by Rod's aunt, who as a young teenager was
40:57
sexually fondled by her father. Rod
41:00
has been consistent about his innocence being taken away
41:02
at age five. In court,
41:04
Rod's aunt also testified under oath that
41:07
Harold molested Sondra. Sondra
41:09
had an extremely volatile relationship with
41:11
her father and mother. Sometimes
41:14
she would leave Rod with him alone. Other times, she also
41:17
stayed with her parents, but typically not for long. They'd
41:19
have a big fight. She'd take off, stay with
41:21
someone else across town or maybe leave town entirely
41:23
for a little while. Rod's life
41:25
was consistently chaotic. Not
41:27
only was Sondra only sometimes be his primary caregiver, she'd
41:29
also tell Rod that he didn't have to listen to
41:32
her parents' rules when he stayed with them. Just
41:34
openly encouraged his rebelliousness. According
41:37
to some sources, she not only allowed him to skip classes
41:39
in school, she also told him that he should. So that's
41:41
fucking awesome. She regularly,
41:44
May probably did hard drugs with him,
41:46
got too into playing vampiric RPGs with
41:48
him. And according to at least one
41:51
psychologist Rod would see in prison, she
41:53
had a romantic sexual relationship with her
41:55
son. So Rod's whole
41:57
family dynamic super fucked up. Sondra
42:00
was a wild child party girl who wanted to fuck
42:02
around, maybe if not probably, you know, fuck
42:04
her son, and never hold down a steady
42:06
job. Her parents were strict,
42:08
moralist, Pentecostal fundamentalists who she
42:10
felt made her life a living hell, commanding
42:13
her to wear her hair long, not wear makeup,
42:15
never go to movies, dances, the beach. Her
42:17
dad also, again, may have been a pedophile. Cute
42:20
and gray-eyed with a button nose, Sondra dropped out of
42:23
school at 16, not long after getting pregnant, and
42:25
never really got her life back on track. Like
42:28
her son would be, she was an outcast, disliked by most of
42:30
the kids she used to go to school with,
42:32
and also by the congregants of her parents' church in Murray.
42:35
And speaking of Murray, let's talk about
42:37
the town a bit before moving forward. Murray
42:40
is a little college town of only about 17,000 residents,
42:42
located in southwest Kentucky, about
42:45
a two-hour drive from the nearest city of Nashville, Tennessee.
42:48
The main source of the local economy
42:50
is a giant castle just outside
42:52
of town, or some secretive rich guy. Pays
42:55
a lot of local people to look the other way,
42:57
when his henchmen come into town, kidnap children, take
42:59
them to the castle, never to be seen again, or
43:02
when he flies into town at night, reportedly
43:04
as a bat, transforms into a man, bites beautiful
43:06
women on the neck, then either carries
43:09
them back to the castle or turns back into
43:11
a bat and flees from angry villagers approaching him
43:13
with, like, you know, torches and wooden stakes and
43:15
garlic and stuff. One
43:17
angry villager! Ah, ah, ah!
43:21
Two angry villagers! Ah, ah,
43:24
ah! Or maybe that was silly. And
43:26
maybe the main source of the local economy
43:28
is Murray State University. That
43:30
sounds more realistic. A public university with
43:32
over 9,000 students. So
43:34
big time college town, over 9,000 students in
43:37
a little burg of around 17,000 total residents. You
43:40
know, in a college town like that, that makes for an interesting
43:42
local culture. Murray sits in what's
43:45
sometimes called the buckle of the Bible Belt, and
43:47
to be fair, several locations from Kentucky all the
43:49
way to Texas, make that same exact claim. Ah,
43:52
but it's one of them. Very conservative area,
43:54
approximately 75 churches in a town of 17,000,
43:57
majority of them, Baptist, Pentecostal, and the Catholic Church.
44:00
some other version of fundamentalism. Some
44:02
of Rod's old vampire pals after his arrest spoke of
44:04
Murray as being a town chock full of good old
44:06
boy rednecks and jacked up pickup trucks who loved to
44:08
shit on goth kids. But also because
44:10
of the college in the 90s had
44:12
a shit ton of goth kids. I
44:15
would say high school or college is when most people who
44:17
get into role playing games like Vampire the Masquerade do get
44:19
into them. And a lot of college
44:21
kids, former college kids, local high school kids who were
44:23
hanging out with college kids were into
44:25
these games when today's story takes place. Murray
44:28
State also home to 26 different frats
44:30
and sororities. So conservative area, but
44:33
also party town. And
44:35
Rod's mom, Sandra, loved to party. She
44:38
frequently, as she kind of raised Rod along with
44:40
her parents would seemingly try and get her life
44:42
together somewhat, maybe working in a fast food place
44:44
or equivalent for a few weeks before quitting, getting
44:46
fired, and then it would be fucking party time,
44:49
sex, drugs, and maybe not any rock and roll because
44:52
it was not much of a music scene. In
44:54
between regular jobs, she sometimes turned tricks into
44:56
sex worker, also was frequently a
44:58
welfare recipient while she partied and leaned on her parents
45:00
to support her and her son. And
45:02
by the time Rod was five, she was very into
45:05
two things that would later help define her son's life,
45:07
drugs and witchcraft. Perhaps
45:10
as a rebellion against her parents, she hung around
45:12
with drug dealers and pushers, dated a bunch of
45:14
them on a few occasions when her parents told
45:16
her to knock that shit off, she threatened to
45:18
have her associates kill them, family
45:21
a little bit dysfunctional. Two extremes
45:23
continually colliding. Extreme fundamental
45:25
conservatism, clashing with rebellious,
45:27
wildly irresponsible liberal hedonism.
45:30
And by the time Rod was eight, at the
45:33
latest, she introduced him to witchcraft. And
45:35
not like a healthy, peace and nature-loving, wicked kind
45:37
of witchcraft, more like a fuck grandpa and grandma,
45:39
fuck God, I'd love to see some demons show
45:41
up and ruin some shit kind of
45:44
witchcraft. While the satanic panic
45:46
of the 80s was built on mostly hysterias I've
45:48
talked about many times, there were some fucked up
45:50
people who did want to figure
45:52
out how to conjure and control dark forces and unleash
45:54
them upon humanity. And Sondra, definitely one
45:56
of those people. As you
45:58
can see, a lot more than a role-playing. game about vampires would
46:00
help turn Rod into a killer. Sonder
46:03
was more than a little intrigued by tarot cards,
46:05
books of spells, supposed potions, she led her obsession
46:07
with the occult take over her life and influenced
46:09
her son heavily. For a time
46:11
when Rod was young, she dated a man named David who claimed
46:13
to be a shaman priest. And to
46:16
get a rise out of her parents, she talked with
46:18
them about playing games, they worried about being devilish with
46:20
Rod like Dungeons and Dragons. Sonder's
46:22
father Harold was a traveling salesman and he and Rosetta
46:24
would move back and forth between Murray, Kentucky, and
46:27
kind of the outline area around Florida, or
46:29
excuse me, Orlando, Florida, like Eustace, Florida. And
46:33
every time that they would move, he and
46:35
Rosetta would bring their troubled daughter and grandson with
46:37
them afraid to leave Rod alone anywhere with Sonder.
46:40
All the back and forths will leave Rod feeling like he didn't
46:42
belong anywhere, spent his first few years in Kentucky,
46:45
followed by a move to Winter Garden, Florida, subbed
46:47
14 miles west of downtown Orlando. Before
46:49
he started grade school, it seems Rod and Sonder moved back
46:51
to Murray, while her folks stayed
46:54
in Florida near Orlando, back in
46:56
Kentucky, and early grade school during the 80s, late 80s. Rod
46:59
lived alone with his mom at the South Side Manor
47:01
apartments. Fully subsidized, Sonder Gibson was
47:03
able to live there rent free, and thus she no
47:06
longer needed to stay with her parents at that time.
47:08
While she partied, Rod was permitted to play
47:10
his fantasy games, basically unsupervised, all
47:13
the time with his friends, mostly Matt Goodman and
47:15
Scott Anderson, using the woods near the
47:17
apartments to engage in fake battles for hours and hours.
47:20
And for a lot of kids, you know, that would not
47:22
be detrimental. But for Rod, it gave him
47:24
time too much time to push his developing
47:26
mind and imagination and imagination possibly fueled by
47:28
a lot of fucked up family trauma, further
47:30
and further into his increasingly dark escapist world,
47:32
any added psychedelics at a young age, I
47:34
don't know if it's this young, but within
47:36
a few years. To all
47:38
that. In 1990, no longer
47:41
able to care for herself again, or her son, despite
47:43
free housing, Sonder, such
47:45
a mess. Now 27, Rod now 10 leaves
47:48
Kentucky for Florida again. They
47:50
move in with Rod's grandparents in Eustace, another
47:52
suburb of Orlando, kind of quite
47:55
a bit further out, about 40 miles from downtown
47:57
Orlando, but still considered part of the metro area.
48:00
And Eustace, Rod attended Eustace Middle School and
48:02
he would also start classes at Eustace, like
48:04
junior high. Excuse me, high school.
48:06
So he attended middle school and the beginning of high school. His
48:09
mom would also start to date a man after living in
48:11
Florida for a few years named
48:13
Darren Vraven. I
48:15
feel like Vraven's a made up last name for this guy. The
48:18
two will get married in the summer of 1995 in
48:20
Daytona Beach. Stay married about
48:22
six months. He was
48:24
super cool, a real winner. If
48:26
not Chad, at least to Brad, big wrists,
48:28
solid skull. He was a drug
48:31
dealer from Louisiana who was very into
48:33
satanic worship and occult rituals. Later
48:36
Sandra will admit that Darren supplied her son, Rod, with
48:38
a variety of drugs that she knew about but had
48:40
nothing to stop. So by junior high, you
48:42
know, beginning of high school, if
48:45
not before, he's already fucked around with hard drugs. One of
48:47
his favorites will be LSD. Down
48:49
in Eustace, Rod also became friends with two
48:51
girls from a very different world. Mentioned them
48:53
earlier, Janine LeClaire, Heather Wendorf. Heather
48:56
had heard about the boy who called himself a vampire. Some
48:59
friends at school thought that they were, you know, who
49:02
thought they were ridiculous. But when she met him or thought
49:04
he was ridiculous, excuse me, she had to admit she was
49:06
attracted to him. Right, might have been
49:08
a case of opposites attract. Heather was
49:10
a lichen, werewolf. Ancient blood
49:12
enemy of the vampires, descendant of William
49:14
Corvinus. Son of Alexander, brother of Marcus,
49:17
the first vampire. Sorry,
49:19
started thinking about underworld again. No, Heather was
49:21
just a good kid from a good family. Heather's
49:23
parents had created a wonderful life for her and her sister,
49:25
Jennifer. That was just about the furthest thing from Rod's life
49:28
with Sondra and his grandparents. Heather's
49:30
mother was Ruth Wendorf, born Neoma Ruth Adams
49:32
from the mountains of West Virginia. She
49:35
grew up a farm girl, knowing lots about
49:37
livestock, chickens and hogs. She got
49:39
married young to a guy named Joe Queen, and
49:41
they had two daughters, Paula and Samantha. By
49:44
the time Paula turned 16, it became clear that the couple was
49:46
not meant to be. They'd rush things. And
49:48
Ruth and Joe decided to separate. Ruth found
49:50
a job at a place called Crown Cork and Seal,
49:52
do an unglamorous factory work, which paid enough for her
49:54
to keep a roof over her and her daughter's heads.
49:57
And she met Rick Wendorf. Rick
50:00
Dats in the same suck. Ruth
50:02
didn't think there's anything special about him, but her friend,
50:04
Bobby Spears, convinced her to go out with him, went
50:06
out for a few months, and then Ruth discovered she
50:08
was pregnant. So I guess Rick might've been
50:10
at least a little special. Ruth
50:12
was in a tough spot now, not super thrilled to be starting
50:15
a new family again, a little later in life, but Rick loved
50:17
the shit out of her, convinced her to
50:19
move in, let him take care of her.
50:21
She agreed. Soon after giving birth to Jennifer
50:23
Wendorf, she became pregnant again, gave birth to
50:25
her fourth child, Heather. Rick's
50:27
company, which manufactured metal cans
50:29
and plastic containers for orange juice, soon
50:32
moved north of Orlando, and Rick
50:34
got a big promotion, which meant Ruth could stay home with
50:36
the girls. They scoured the Lake
50:38
Country area for a property, fell in
50:40
love with the rural outskirts of Eustace,
50:43
where they were able to buy five acres at a great
50:45
price. They constructed a 3,000-foot house
50:47
with a built-in pool, vegetable garden for Ruth,
50:49
woods for the kids to play in. They
50:51
bought season passes to Disney World. They would
50:54
go on camping trips in the mountains. Girls
50:56
took music lessons, family going picnics. They
50:58
had every toy a kid could want, no handsy-pedo pop-pop,
51:00
more or less than any of them. Rick
51:03
was a damn genius when it came to business and money.
51:06
He invested his hard-earned dollars in companies
51:08
like Disney, McDonald's, eventually saved enough for
51:10
his daughter's college funds, even
51:12
bought stocks in his daughter's names, so
51:14
the girls could learn about investing early and start
51:17
their retirements before ever entering the workforce. Great
51:19
dad. Rick's parents and two brothers
51:21
lived nearby. They'd come over to visit a lot,
51:23
especially his identical twin brother, Billy. They'd
51:26
bring the kids. It was a good, wholesome
51:28
family time for all. Pretty idyllic life. The
51:31
family never seemed to fight, never really argued.
51:33
Just had the normal growing pains of raising
51:35
two kids. Rick and Ruth
51:37
also loved the hell out of each other. Heather
51:40
grew up so surrounded by love that
51:42
maybe Rod's dysfunction and darkness intrigued
51:45
her simply because it was so foreign.
51:48
She had a crush on him, but Rod did not
51:50
immediately reciprocate. Instead, he went for her best
51:52
friend. That always stinks. Deneen
51:54
Leclerc. My mind just flashed when
51:56
I was in grade school. All the girls love Ryan Shaw.
51:59
Not who cares about me. I still think
52:01
about it every once in a while. Janine went to school
52:03
in nearby Leesburg, which meant—and Ryan was
52:05
my buddy. Sorry, I got distracted in my
52:07
head there. Janine went to school in nearby Leesburg, which meant
52:09
that Heather and Rod would end up spending more time together
52:12
than he and Janine would. Sucks for
52:14
Heather. Because Rod was already
52:16
goth as fuck, they spent
52:18
a lot of their time hanging out in a nearby
52:20
cemetery, the Greenwood Cemetery. Talk about vampires. Life.
52:24
Philosophy. More vampires. And
52:26
when Rod was with Janine, he also talked about vampires a
52:29
lot, and would try to seduce her in his
52:31
own goth way. He showed her
52:33
the occult, satanic altar he had made for
52:35
his room, that he cut himself on the
52:37
finger, pressed into her lips in some sort
52:39
of vampiric love gesture. One
52:41
lip touch. Ah, ah, ah. Two
52:44
titties I want to suck.
52:46
Ah, ah, ah. Three
52:49
bases left me touching a pussy. Ah,
52:51
ah, ah. Can you
52:53
imagine trying to seduce somebody with a count by count voice? I'd love
52:56
to know about somebody pulling
52:58
that off. One time I want to kiss
53:00
your lips. Two times
53:02
I want to suck on your nipples. Three
53:05
times let me put the tip in. Ah,
53:08
ah, ah. It's got
53:10
to be at least one person. They'll actually turn on. And
53:13
in my mind, she also talks like that. They just
53:15
go back and forth. One dick I want to stroke.
53:18
Two balls I want
53:20
to empty. Ah, ah, ah. Ah, ah, ah.
53:23
Ah, ah, ah. I'll stop now. Soon Heather
53:25
and Jeanine would be participating in occult rituals with
53:27
Rod. This is starting to feel
53:29
like a, like an after school fucking, one of
53:31
those after school special movies for the 90s, some
53:34
kind of PSA. They
53:36
were just two ordinary American girls from the
53:39
suburbs leading good and wholesome lives.
53:42
But then they met, they say Tanic
53:44
Vampire, lost their way and
53:46
ended up in hell. Uh,
53:50
the girls loved how spooky and mysterious it all was. And
53:53
I'm sure like normal teens, right, they got off on knowing how it
53:55
pissed off their parents. Right? How
53:57
mad their parents would be if they, if they found out about all this stuff. Girls
54:00
also got some insight into Rod's strange relationship with his mom,
54:02
which they would later attest to in
54:04
court about how batshit crazy and creepy she
54:06
was. One day
54:08
in December of 1995, 15-year-old Janine, 14-year-old
54:11
Rod, some other unnamed boy
54:13
who went to school with Rod, were
54:15
all in Rod's room, and they were cutting
54:17
themselves on their arms on Rod's bed with a razor. So
54:20
they could suck on each other's blood, naturally, and
54:22
then Sondra walked in and all hell broke loose.
54:25
Sondra thought that they were fucking. She accused Rod
54:27
of performing some kind of sex ritual with Janine, and
54:30
of being a devil worshipper. And she tore down his
54:32
altar in front of his friends, pulled him off his bed by his
54:34
hair, and screamed for Janine to get out. But
54:36
was she really mad at what she seemed to be mad at? Rod
54:39
told Janine something really odd as he walked her out after
54:41
the incident. He said, don't worry about my mom. She
54:44
just wants to be sired, as in
54:46
to be made a vampire, as in she
54:48
was fucking jealous that her 14-year-old son
54:51
Rod was letting Janine suck on
54:53
his blood. Creepy. Not
54:56
sure if she was molesting him at this point or not, but if I
54:58
had to guess, I would say she was. Very
55:00
few details are ever given about this possible
55:02
molestation of Rod. She
55:05
wasn't pissed at Rod because he was engaged in a
55:07
cult activity either, just mad she wasn't a part of
55:09
it. Following a year back in Kentucky,
55:11
Rod would build another satanic altar in his room,
55:13
and his mom would put occult markings in her
55:15
room. And she'd be
55:17
arrested and receive probation for trying to seduce one
55:19
of Rod's 14-year-old friends hoping to have
55:22
sex with him in a vampiric initiation ritual.
55:25
She is creepy as shit. Can you imagine having her as your mom? Even
55:28
if the molestation accusation regarding Rod is not
55:30
true. Just still such
55:32
a weird and creepy just goth-pedo. Just
55:35
fucking picture these goth kids like getting ready
55:37
to have this ritual in the room. Okay
55:39
fuckers, are you ready to dance with
55:41
the devil? We're about to call
55:43
him the power of the Dark Lord to strengthen our
55:45
vampire coven. I'm ready, dude.
55:48
But should we do this somewhere else? I just, I
55:50
think I heard your mom come home. I don't want
55:52
her to flip her shit, you know, and tell my folks she's
55:54
not going to rat you out, Brian. But she will
55:56
try and join our game. And
55:58
then her mom is fucking, his mom is watching. walks into dress like
56:00
Lucifina, walked into her teenage rebel
56:03
son's room looking more goth than he does,
56:05
sitting down in their little circle around the Ouija board,
56:07
tits almost popping out of her pushup bra, covered
56:10
by just some see-through mesh, her
56:12
lacy panties clearly visible underneath her little
56:14
black leather miniskirts. Mom, how many
56:16
times do I have to tell you you're not invited
56:18
to my coven? Stop being
56:21
such a brat and sire me already. Mom,
56:23
I'm not gonna sire you, you're embarrassing me.
56:25
Fine, I have my own Ouija board, and
56:27
I'm gonna conjure the devil before you do.
56:30
And when he gives me immortal power, I
56:32
won't invite you into my vampire coven, and
56:34
I won't sire you. Mom, please
56:36
don't conjure the Dark Lord before me. It's so fucked
56:38
up. Too late brat, if anyone
56:40
else wants to join a ritual, you can, I'll be in my
56:42
bedroom naked, covered in some pig's blood, I bought from the butcher.
56:45
I don't have a cool python and drugs too. Coke,
56:47
acid meth, it's gonna be fucking rad. Imagine
56:51
that's your fucking mom, like that's basically this
56:53
character is Rod's mom, but maybe she was
56:55
actually worse than that. Backing
56:58
up to Janine and Heather, being
57:00
thrown out of Rod's house now. Janine thought that Sandra's behavior was
57:02
so strange because, you know, it was. After
57:05
the door closed following Rod walking Janine out, after
57:08
Sandra's big meltdown, Rod walked back into his room
57:10
to tidy up, and Sandra continued to scream at
57:12
him. At one point, he told her
57:14
to get a life. She now started screaming that she
57:16
wished he was dead, and she grabbed a fucking knife
57:18
from the kitchen, she came after him, Rod grabbed a
57:21
knife of his own, stabbed it in the door frame, few inches
57:23
from her face. What a childhood.
57:26
One volatile, dysfunctional child kind of trying to
57:28
raise, but not really another. Shortly
57:31
after this incident, Sandra divorces Darren Vraven,
57:34
satanic fucking drug dealer, and
57:36
moves back to Murray, Kentucky away from her parents, and
57:39
returns to the Southside Manor apartments. Both
57:41
girls were devastated that he was moving back to Murray,
57:43
but promised to keep in touch. He said
57:46
he'd be back, he would, and
57:48
they both will regret that very much. Before
57:51
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I'm back. It's the beginning of 1996.
59:11
Rod has returned to Kentucky and shit is
59:13
about to get real crazy. In
59:15
early 1996, when Rod made it back
59:17
to Murray, he started hanging out with his old
59:19
elementary school buddies Matt Goodman, excuse me, and Scott
59:21
Anderson. He told them he'd
59:23
take them into his coven. Fucking cool. Get
59:26
them ready for an eternal existence. Nice
59:28
gesture. He's very into vampires now. Rod's
59:31
time in Florida seemed to have increased his
59:33
mystique and Matt and Scott eagerly agreed. They
59:35
believed him or at least Scott did. When he
59:37
said shit like, you know, Rod could turn
59:39
into a nine-foot tall demon. Scott would later
59:41
claim he saw this happen. Cool
59:44
story, bro. Both Matt and Scott,
59:46
to be fair to them, they were primed to need
59:48
someone to believe in. They were both misfits themselves. Also
59:50
had very troubled, incredibly unstable homewives. They saw some of
59:52
themselves and their friend Rod who had been carted back
59:54
and forth across the country so many times, exposed to
59:57
someone shit a kid should never have to be exposed
59:59
to. When Rod bragged about
1:00:01
being a killer, when he compared himself to
1:00:03
Jack the Ripper and Jeffrey Dahmer, they didn't
1:00:05
fear him or think he was crazy. They
1:00:08
just saw a strong fellow outcast who would protect
1:00:10
him, just mouth it off. Also
1:00:12
Matt and Scott were used to people their own
1:00:14
age talking a lot about vampires, claiming to be
1:00:17
vampires. Remember the College Town
1:00:19
of Murray in the mid-90s, just like in other
1:00:21
college towns across America, Vampire the Masquerade,
1:00:23
one of the most popular fantasy role-playing games
1:00:25
in the country. Another
1:00:27
kid Matt and Scott knew in Murray who was into
1:00:29
being a vampire as much as Rod almost
1:00:32
was a 19-year-old kid named Steven Jaden
1:00:34
Murphy, who other kids knew as
1:00:37
the vampire prince of the city. Some
1:00:39
other kids knew him as that. Most kids knew him
1:00:42
as, check out this vamp dork in the Nine-ish Nails T
1:00:44
who won't shut up about his nerd coven. Possibly.
1:00:46
That's possibly how most people knew him. Jaden
1:00:49
was also bragging about his vampiric bloodlust to his group
1:00:51
of friends, his coven, as he called them. So
1:00:54
many vampires in small town Kentucky. I
1:00:56
did not expect that when I picked this topic. Jaden
1:00:59
was, according to Jaden, more into vampires
1:01:01
than Rod. Jaden later
1:01:03
claimed that he was the one who turned Rod
1:01:05
into Visago, that he helped him create
1:01:07
that backstory, that he sired Rod into his
1:01:10
coven. Not sure if that's
1:01:12
the truth, but that's what he claims. This
1:01:14
story, particularly going forward from this point in the
1:01:16
timeline, filled with a lot of very
1:01:18
imaginative people who seem to have
1:01:21
a lot of trouble deciphering between fantasy and reality,
1:01:23
and also people with big egos about this sort
1:01:25
of thing, very concerned with who was the coolest,
1:01:27
most powerful fake vampire and stuff. And
1:01:30
when it came time for Rod's trial, and when
1:01:32
journalists began interviewing Rod and his old friends, a
1:01:35
recollection of events and the timelines went
1:01:37
along with them very quite a bit,
1:01:39
especially between Rod Dog, God Rod, and
1:01:42
Prince Jaden. If you ask Rod,
1:01:44
he was already a big deal vampire motherfucker before
1:01:46
he returned to Kentucky. Like
1:01:48
probably the most powerful vampire in
1:01:50
all of Florida, which just ain't quite a bit.
1:01:54
But if you ask Jaden, oh yeah sure, Rod dabbled
1:01:56
in bloodletting, and yeah he had a Santana altar in
1:01:59
Florida, but he didn't. really know what the hell
1:02:01
he was doing about his vampireism. And since
1:02:03
he didn't really know what he was doing, he was just a
1:02:05
fake vampire. He thought it was a
1:02:07
vampire. It was Jaden, the vampiric prince of
1:02:09
Murray Kentucky, who turned him into, you
1:02:11
know, being a real vampire. If
1:02:13
you've ever seen What We Do in the Shadows, the
1:02:16
goofy 2019 FX comedy horror series,
1:02:19
but mostly comedy mockumentary about a
1:02:21
group of bumbling idiot vampires living
1:02:23
in Staten Island, the
1:02:25
next section of this timeline, basically until we get to the
1:02:28
murders, reminds me so much of that show. These people remind
1:02:30
me of characters from that show. When
1:02:32
Rod moved back to Murray, Jaden and his coven primarily
1:02:37
hung out at their headquarters, which
1:02:39
was a Hardee's, it was a Hardee's fast food restaurant, the
1:02:42
fast food burger joint with
1:02:44
almost identical branding and the same menu as
1:02:46
Curl's Jr. Sad times, sad
1:02:49
times for a coven of vampires. When you
1:02:51
know, the coven's HQ is
1:02:54
a Hardee's lobby. One
1:02:56
big cheeseburger combo with
1:02:58
fries, two chocolate hand
1:03:01
scoop ice cream shakes.
1:03:04
In that lobby right there in public, they would frequently
1:03:06
do stuff like recite verses from the vampire Bible. It
1:03:10
doesn't say exactly which vampire Bible they use
1:03:12
by thinking which one there's a bunch in
1:03:14
publication. I think the vampire Bible they read
1:03:17
from probably the one first published in 1989
1:03:19
by a group called the temple of the vampire. Temple
1:03:22
of the vampire is technically a new religious movement
1:03:24
founded in 1989. I don't feel like it has
1:03:26
a lot of followers to explore
1:03:28
the positive aspects of the vampire mythos.
1:03:31
The temple states that it quote embraces only
1:03:33
those aspects of the vampire mythos that
1:03:35
include a love and respect for all
1:03:38
life, physical immortality, individual
1:03:40
elegance, proven wisdom, civilized behavior,
1:03:42
worldly success, and personal happiness.
1:03:45
Based in Lacey, Washington, which is just outside of
1:03:48
the capital of Olympia. Not only they have many
1:03:50
members, I can't find a physical address associated with
1:03:52
them. So I don't think they have any church,
1:03:54
so to speak. And their website is janky
1:03:56
as shit. They probably hold
1:03:59
black vampire masks. In places like God,
1:04:01
the men's room better Jack and box. And
1:04:03
Taco Bell. Parking Lots of them. A
1:04:06
Forty Years Or website. The Vampire Bible Folks is
1:04:08
primarily on three things: One.
1:04:11
The. Secret The Vampires and to draw
1:04:13
life force from human beings to
1:04:15
why vampires never harm others, are
1:04:17
barred from criminal acts and see
1:04:19
how to perform Asian rights of
1:04:22
the calling of the ended undead
1:04:24
gods in magical ritual. Ah ah
1:04:26
ah so that ritual totally works.
1:04:28
and stuff. All this group
1:04:30
is all about non violence and based on interviews of Jaden
1:04:32
have some across on you do. That. Is
1:04:35
what he seems to believe. Nonviolence.
1:04:37
He. Rod will butt heads over this. Film.
1:04:40
Based on several interviews of Jaden, I watched. Need
1:04:43
as I still important. right? And and
1:04:45
having a tough let him feel that
1:04:47
which is fine. Faces odd Ah, but
1:04:49
also going to say seems pretty smart
1:04:52
funny ah, self aware, at least somewhat
1:04:54
someone who takes continual role playing no
1:04:56
seriously, but doesn't actually thinks of themselves
1:04:58
as a real immortal vampire. Dress
1:05:01
Ensure Black. Referring to himself not just as
1:05:04
Das Ist, das Expanding as Ninety Six. They'd.
1:05:06
Love to do shit like invite under God
1:05:09
to join him. His competitors are the hardest
1:05:11
evils. plus that are fries whatnot. It's a
1:05:13
stealth like you can see the undead in
1:05:15
the heart is windows and seven bleed him.
1:05:18
For. The pretended to. They started the said
1:05:20
he had to call him. He also
1:05:22
them sort of leave the he could make them
1:05:24
somebody nobody else could. A living built
1:05:26
bar. Or through the Murray
1:05:29
dance. Vampire Grapevine was a have to measure.
1:05:31
was pretty small, great by. Was
1:05:33
marriages were to those rod set
1:05:35
of a meeting with Jaden at
1:05:38
Murray's Old Salem Cemetery to vampires
1:05:40
coming together the cemetery at midnight
1:05:42
to join forces. Or. Fight
1:05:44
to the Death. Or. Eat
1:05:47
some Hardy's Hand breaded chicken sandwiches
1:05:49
and hash browns are able don't.
1:05:52
For. Girlfriend Rod set by the Jaden
1:05:54
did sire Rod and his southern. Shortly
1:05:56
after they met. And on
1:05:58
the night Jaden cross rod over. Rod.
1:06:00
Couldn't get to sleep. He cried. The. Zebra
1:06:02
all night long as a scandal boy. Interest
1:06:05
in taking the stuff real says that. Ah
1:06:07
that are They sat down according rod
1:06:09
later at cemetery a cemetery. The both
1:06:12
for claimed that they had the supernatural
1:06:14
within them experience dealing with ghosts and
1:06:16
witches, past lives and undead souls. Didn't.
1:06:19
Told rather see had a powerful
1:06:21
siren England. Sire. Be determined
1:06:23
Vampire The Masquerade for a vampire who had
1:06:25
turning human to another ramparts an inhuman to
1:06:27
the group of Mps followers. Are
1:06:29
adjacent also said he was a good vampire
1:06:31
a Christian vampire in fact who use his
1:06:33
powers to serve the forces of light. Rod.
1:06:37
Not. A fan of that To consider this
1:06:39
a perversion. People that all real vampires were
1:06:41
satanic and a story. But he
1:06:43
knew he would need Jade to jumpstart for me to zone
1:06:45
vampiric companies and just. May. Be detained
1:06:47
to assemble vampires for hims and and
1:06:50
steal them in a hostile vampiric take
1:06:52
over. Ah ah ah. So.
1:06:54
The two boys were made an Old Salem Cemetery
1:06:57
almost every night to feed upon one another. As
1:06:59
they would smuggle slashing their shoulders and drink
1:07:02
to the blitz and perform various rituals for
1:07:04
the vampire Bible another sources. Also
1:07:06
soon robert bring someone new into a what
1:07:08
was still jaden seven. His new girlfriend
1:07:11
fifteen year old him Charity. He
1:07:13
lured or in by tell her that he'd witness blood rituals
1:07:15
as a kid. Old. Men sacrificing an
1:07:17
animal dripping blood all over him. All
1:07:19
kinds of spooky. Sit. Here.
1:07:21
Doesn't care about all that. Didn't even really
1:07:24
care about vampires suited board. So.
1:07:26
That rod god was cool may some one
1:07:28
himself talking about his supposed other girlfriends in
1:07:30
Florida and other join his little vampire coven
1:07:32
or click or clan where the spots I
1:07:34
would help him settle up. Not
1:07:37
long after the to join of rod social circle
1:07:39
begins to grow get. All of
1:07:41
the events rod moving to Murray and the murders will
1:07:43
take place Ninety Ninety Six by the way. Big Year.
1:07:45
For. The time one lot of vampires. it
1:07:47
happened. Early that Jurado
1:07:50
be invited to join what was called
1:07:52
the Victorian Age Masquerade Performing Society. A.
1:07:54
Group of local says pins
1:07:57
and propositional act towards ah
1:07:59
spam the Billie sites. No
1:08:01
doubts. Lane. Serial killer of
1:08:03
them are De Valera or who devote their acting
1:08:05
skills by using role playing game. We talked about
1:08:07
a length for the time with Vampire The Masquerade.
1:08:10
Rod. Was buried in his game. The same
1:08:12
will pull him much deeper into his vampire fantasy
1:08:15
and attach him further from reality. Not clear if
1:08:17
he's had played it before or or this was
1:08:19
his introduction to the skin I think before, but.
1:08:22
Doesn't. Say for certain and sources are
1:08:24
Jane one of these guys know serious
1:08:26
about vampirism as they were mostly about
1:08:28
acting. Roster wanted to play. And
1:08:30
they will both and of loving this group in the game. Full
1:08:33
Blown Masquerade sessions would last from sundown
1:08:35
to sun up. Often times as many
1:08:37
as seventeen members plane to perform. At
1:08:39
All good looking twenty five year old named
1:08:42
James yo he was game master the storyteller
1:08:44
who come up with the internal game mechanisms
1:08:46
known as the Constitution's they performed in the
1:08:48
crypt. As a James, his basement is off
1:08:50
campus house where the walls been painted black,
1:08:52
blood red curtain songs and classroom claim older
1:08:54
to the ceiling to create he bolted affects.
1:08:57
A size of the acting aspect which included props
1:08:59
i sayings and say blood. Gameplay.
1:09:02
Center to Dungeons Dragons. Players.
1:09:04
On Altair procedural dice A side
1:09:06
Quests by James. For
1:09:08
his care to Rod shows the vampire type known
1:09:10
as the Bonds of Wants. Someone. Who
1:09:12
wanted to enjoy life while it lasted? A he'd
1:09:14
missed a party M. Other
1:09:16
players included Messy James his girlfriend age not
1:09:18
listen sources who played him as a martyr
1:09:21
and an eight year old girl named April
1:09:23
Dotan a shy who played as a caregiver.
1:09:26
All. Of them would hunt each other betrayed other,
1:09:28
war between the other vampires plans and over
1:09:30
but it's been as wars. got cast. Spells
1:09:32
ball love, we'll all at all that stuff.
1:09:35
and some as a lives in care to emperors would blow. My.
1:09:37
Could rod bit jaded lip hard enough to draw
1:09:40
blood? At are jaded rap brought up
1:09:42
in a passionate kiss. They now consider themselves
1:09:44
to be blood bond. It. Characters.
1:09:46
And V T M R refer to the
1:09:49
supernatural blood in their bodies a sustained them
1:09:51
as vital. Vampires. Gain
1:09:53
by t by drinking blood been games accumulation
1:09:55
of by to is called a blood pool
1:09:57
of vampires. By doesn't inspire false feelings of.
1:10:00
In foster dependency if trump by others and
1:10:02
can lead to was called a blood bond.
1:10:05
According to the gained a Vampire best performing
1:10:07
the Bond is called the Residents. And.
1:10:09
The one performing be bound by it is called
1:10:11
a thrall. In most cases
1:10:13
a was drink three times from the same
1:10:16
vampire on three separate. It's nice to become
1:10:18
bonded once bonded, the thrall feel something akin
1:10:20
to a very twisted sort of love for
1:10:22
the vampires was are your bonded them? They
1:10:25
become the most important person in their life.
1:10:27
They. Also, become more susceptible to mind control by
1:10:30
the vampire and are willing to do anything
1:10:32
even ritual my to aid their regnet. Mortals.
1:10:34
Animals, even other vampires, other supernatural creatures
1:10:37
may be bound. In. The game.
1:10:40
Capital G. None. of this happened of
1:10:42
realize but Rod based on stuff like April don't
1:10:44
testified that he cried and several night long us
1:10:46
like a scared were to been crossed over. The
1:10:49
seems that he started to believe a lot of she was real. Ah,
1:10:52
still early. Ninety Ninety Six Light
1:10:54
becomes complicated for number of young
1:10:56
vampires and very. James. Ya
1:10:58
he had gotten engaged was girlfriend Missy V live
1:11:00
with but then shy showed up until James that
1:11:02
she was trying to was his baby. And
1:11:05
now need to stay with James and Missy. Soon.
1:11:08
They were live in a James's house, all of
1:11:10
them arguing incessantly. Yeah. I bet. Vampire.
1:11:13
Drama. So much Vamp drama is
1:11:15
a regular vamps soap opera right
1:11:17
now. one soon to be a
1:11:19
baby. Ah ah ah So where
1:11:21
my head in his other story,
1:11:24
people with a love triangle. No
1:11:26
one was ah ah ah. Jade
1:11:29
without a Sir James's house to mostly hanging
1:11:31
around watching be horror flicks with his girlfriend
1:11:33
actually rod also common by a lot of
1:11:35
one hang out James's Us. Regime.
1:11:38
Over Lot because he currently hated rub your
1:11:40
mom. Load. Going to school as well. And
1:11:43
James's house was the perfect getaway. He
1:11:45
was also excited the game seemed
1:11:47
to be. Escaping is complicated personal
1:11:49
situation by taking Masquerade to New
1:11:52
Heights. Pretty vampire scavenger hunt, some
1:11:54
college campus juggling, multiple complex storylines.
1:11:57
Is a cool. Little. Do a
1:11:59
net or one will be irresponsible. Your
1:12:01
kid on the way mother fucker. And why is
1:12:03
your twenty five year old our as pay poor
1:12:05
more energy into a vampire game you play? Of
1:12:07
most your high schoolers they get a job. Maybe.
1:12:10
Poor more energies into helping provide for the baby
1:12:12
are about to have been a general. Some.
1:12:15
People. Are while James
1:12:17
ignores is imploding personalized, Six. His
1:12:19
head the sand. Some new kids are joining
1:12:21
the ongoing vampire role playing game. And
1:12:23
will Jane the James worn rot who's either
1:12:26
about turned sixteen or is barely sixteen now
1:12:28
to stay away from the new recruits. Why?
1:12:31
He was annoying the shit out of
1:12:33
them with is one note stupid count
1:12:36
on town. Impressive was new recruits was
1:12:38
to the of a bar ah ah
1:12:40
ah to lot like are you living.
1:12:43
Now jaded is most of the rod was taking mastery
1:12:45
way too seriously and weird be blocked. Roads
1:12:48
holds a new plan to embrace certain
1:12:50
players especially two girls them Cindy and
1:12:52
since your twins who become in thrall
1:12:54
the idea of crossing over. From. Human
1:12:56
to vampire, Or the
1:12:58
embrace is defined and vampire. The
1:13:01
Masquerade world of Darkness lore as
1:13:03
follows: The Creator vampires not as
1:13:05
a sire, the newly created vampire,
1:13:07
a child, any creation process. The
1:13:09
Embrace. Our was also gained
1:13:11
a reputation as quite a little player around
1:13:13
this time, but he want to embrace all
1:13:16
sorts of gossip girls. When. Fred's
1:13:18
Bible Jaden James about how whether or not
1:13:20
raw.this it was actually real. Around this time
1:13:22
he was cryptic with and answers. Sometimes.
1:13:25
He insisted that he was is what you're human. But.
1:13:27
He would say that with a look and
1:13:29
or vocal tones that was interpreted as equal
1:13:32
that of winked as he had no i'm
1:13:34
not totally this is a regular human is
1:13:36
a regular guy that he that are. As
1:13:38
year progress towards the summer Daves became so
1:13:40
overwhelmed with his personal i probably didn't have
1:13:42
the energy. To. Protect new players. Rod
1:13:45
he big of these kids want to little
1:13:47
he stuck his blood feeds rodwell fuck it
1:13:49
Now their business fraud with views of every
1:13:51
game or well, what did he really do
1:13:53
like. He. detail rod though he
1:13:55
did want to cross over into the vampiric
1:13:57
world where the ads on that and i
1:13:59
did want him cut himself and feeding people in his house.
1:14:02
Fair. Meanwhile, Jaden is getting more
1:14:04
and more annoyed with Rod. The
1:14:06
two were now in direct competition for supremacy over
1:14:09
the few people who took their vampire game as seriously
1:14:11
as them, like Ashley, Jaden's girlfriend.
1:14:14
Ashley started complaining that Rod was stalking her following
1:14:16
her every move, but when confronted, Rod
1:14:18
would refuse to admit it. He also
1:14:20
refused to admit something else, Jaden suspected, that
1:14:22
Rod was dosing various female players with LSD
1:14:25
to make the game seem more real, to
1:14:27
make him seem more like an actual vampire.
1:14:30
If he was really doing that, that is so fucked up. I
1:14:33
don't doubt he was. Rod
1:14:35
turned 16 on March 28th, 1996, and
1:14:37
he'd been partying with his mom, former stepdad, other
1:14:39
random dudes with hard drugs, in particular LSD for
1:14:41
years in all likelihood. He was
1:14:44
taking up to 10 tabs of acid at
1:14:46
a time now. He knew
1:14:48
how acid can fuck up your perception of reality and
1:14:50
would know how unknowingly dropping someone like a
1:14:52
half a tab, one tab, during a game
1:14:55
like that, you know, would lead to them
1:14:57
thinking through the power of suggestion combined with
1:14:59
LSD's powerful hallucinogenic properties that they
1:15:01
were really seen what he told them that they
1:15:03
were seen. Jaden also
1:15:05
stumbled across a couple tabs, or Jaden, excuse me,
1:15:08
had stumbled across a couple tabs and confronted Rod,
1:15:10
but Rod said it was for his own personal use and
1:15:13
denied ever dosing anyone. And to be
1:15:15
fair to Rod, didn't seem like he needed drugs to
1:15:17
convince goth girls to like him. A
1:15:19
lot just did. His charity is on again,
1:15:21
off again girlfriend. There was shy, aka April
1:15:24
Doden, his frequent sex partner, despite her pregnancy
1:15:26
with James, and Janine and Heather,
1:15:28
both of whom did want to come visit him from Florida.
1:15:31
And there were more girls, some pretty young, girls
1:15:33
still in junior high, who Rod would meet
1:15:35
at the old Salem cemetery. The
1:15:37
power struggle over who was the head vampire honcho between
1:15:40
Rod, James and Jaden, if there was what you could
1:15:42
call a power struggle, was being won by Rod.
1:15:45
James was out because of his personal life. And for
1:15:47
him, this was more about having fun with improv than about actually
1:15:49
being a vampire. And between Jaden and
1:15:51
Rod, Rod won simply by virtue of his dark
1:15:53
charm. Goth girls like
1:15:56
satanic vamprod more than Christian vamprod.
1:15:58
Jaden. Getting drunk
1:16:00
on his own pathetic power, a big fish in the
1:16:02
tiniest of ponds, still in early 1996, Rod
1:16:05
would tell Shai that he had cast a spell on
1:16:07
her, unleashing
1:16:09
her elephant side and turning her into a
1:16:11
fairy. And Shai did not
1:16:13
tell him to get the fuck out of here. Now she believed him. She
1:16:16
spent the next several weeks molding herself into Rod's image of
1:16:19
what an elven fairy should be. Studying
1:16:21
candle spells, white magic, walking in shadows, whatever
1:16:23
that means, and practicing astral
1:16:25
projection. Based on me finding
1:16:27
a Vampiric Ask Me Anything blog on Tumblr, shadow
1:16:30
walking is the ability of vampires to travel from
1:16:32
one place to another. This allows
1:16:34
vampires to go around, albeit it must be
1:16:36
during the night or in well-shaded areas. As
1:16:39
a shadow, the distance of the vampire as a shadow, walks
1:16:42
depend on the type and level of vampire
1:16:45
they are. Okay. I'm guessing that extends to
1:16:47
vampires who are also elven fairies.
1:16:50
Cool. Glad I know that. Shai
1:16:52
was disappointed that
1:16:55
despite doing so much cool shit like practicing her shadow
1:16:57
walking, Rod still was not choosing
1:16:59
her over charity. In fact, when
1:17:01
she tried to force him to choose her, Rod
1:17:03
told her that he had used her white witchcraft
1:17:05
against her, saying he was tired of hearing her
1:17:07
talk about angels and wing creatures. And
1:17:10
now he had blocked her romantic hold over him with
1:17:12
magic and shit. Totally normal.
1:17:14
Skye, down but not defeated, continued to work
1:17:17
on her love incantations and earth and
1:17:19
magic. Hoping she could craft some type
1:17:21
of spell or potion or whatnot that would force Rod to come
1:17:23
back to her. She even built
1:17:25
a harvest altar and started her own
1:17:27
witch's covenant. Hoping
1:17:29
to use her growing power to lure
1:17:31
him away from charity. I mean,
1:17:34
what does she need to do? She's a fucking vampire,
1:17:36
she's an elf, she's a witch? Come
1:17:38
on! How much magic does
1:17:41
one girl need? Her
1:17:44
new magic did end up working. Or
1:17:46
maybe a different kind of magic. Maybe good
1:17:48
old fashioned pussy, power magic did. Most
1:17:51
powerful magic on earth. The summer of 1996 while
1:17:53
charity was away in South Dakota, visiting her
1:17:55
mom, Skye managed to nab Rod. And
1:17:57
by nab, I mean she fucked him. girlfriend's
1:18:00
back. And in a moment of sexual passion,
1:18:02
got him to agree to get engaged to her. So
1:18:04
things are going great now for Shai in the spring of 1996.
1:18:06
She's excited early summer.
1:18:09
She's excited to have James' baby. I actually forgot she was
1:18:11
pregnant for a bit. And with Rod's
1:18:13
followers growing by the day, she feels like
1:18:16
a queen amongst mortals, a high vampiric elf
1:18:18
witch priestess. With her social
1:18:20
security and welfare money, she manages to
1:18:22
set up a makeshift home for her, Rod, and her
1:18:24
future baby. So
1:18:27
many people. So many people making so many terrible choices in
1:18:29
this story. I can't remember another episode
1:18:32
where I wish that like the overwhelming majority of the characters
1:18:34
would just grow up and get jobs. And
1:18:36
look, I like role playing games. I love them. My
1:18:38
anger not coming from that angle. If you can play
1:18:41
these games and also pay your bills and manage your life,
1:18:43
fucking play away. Oh, so fun. But
1:18:46
if you can't manage your life and play, well, maybe don't play.
1:18:48
Maybe get your shit figured out. Maybe, I
1:18:50
don't know, give some stability to your child or children.
1:18:52
Maybe make that a priority. I
1:18:55
feel like an angry old man in this episode. Just fucking
1:18:57
kiss these days. No one wants to work anymore. Just want
1:19:00
to play their vampire games. Fucking fucking good
1:19:02
high. Anyway, now
1:19:05
that he's with Shai and has a place to go that
1:19:07
isn't his mother's house, Rod actually seems to calm down a
1:19:09
bit. He stops taking as
1:19:11
much LSD, maybe even all together
1:19:13
for a few weeks. Stops talking about death all the time.
1:19:16
Stops getting so angry when
1:19:18
his mom, Sondra, calls him, begging him to come
1:19:20
home. But then as Shai's
1:19:22
pregnancy progresses, you know, things change and he gets angry again.
1:19:25
Rod starts to see Shai as a rival, not as
1:19:28
a companion. She had started bragging
1:19:30
to his followers about having him under her thumb, and that
1:19:32
pissed him off. And
1:19:34
when Charity returns from South Dakota, Rod ditches Shai. He
1:19:36
and Charity get back together, leaving Shai on her own.
1:19:40
So much for all her magic. Then to make matters worse, Rod
1:19:43
starts talking about killing her. In Rod's
1:19:45
mind, Shai had tried to topple the social order by
1:19:47
putting herself above him, and Rod felt like she probably
1:19:49
had to die for that transgression. He's taken
1:19:51
his vampire game real seriously. He's full of
1:19:54
asago now. He's threatened to
1:19:56
sacrifice her and her newborn baby to Satan, unless
1:19:58
she moved away. So
1:20:00
what does Shy do? Well, this
1:20:02
great choice maker abandons her baby. Mm-hmm.
1:20:05
She gives her baby boy to her mom in
1:20:07
Tennessee, then goes back to Murray and begs Rod
1:20:09
for forgiveness. What the fuck?
1:20:13
How good was that Vlad the Hyman
1:20:15
Impaler one-eyed undead necromancer staff? He was
1:20:17
packin'! And I'm referring to his dick there,
1:20:19
to be clear. Now baby, free,
1:20:21
Rod, God, and Shy start to fuck again.
1:20:24
And he no longer wants to kill her. Also,
1:20:27
Rod took her back in part because, according
1:20:29
to Jaden, his powerful sire was coming back
1:20:31
from England any day now. And
1:20:34
an all-out Kentucky vampire war is brewing.
1:20:37
These idiots. Now Shy starts
1:20:39
to get scared. Like, she's actually
1:20:41
scared about this vampire war. Rod told
1:20:43
her that to prepare for the war, he had
1:20:46
killed some Goths in Nashville. He
1:20:48
drained them of their blood in preparation for
1:20:50
this upcoming battle. And she thought it was serious. She
1:20:53
thought, I really did that. Maybe did, but I
1:20:55
doubt it. Shy now wanted Rod to leave town with
1:20:57
her. They needed to escape. And
1:20:59
they should join, her idea, a traveling
1:21:01
theater troop. So they could,
1:21:03
you know, escape this vampire battle, and, I don't know, just
1:21:05
travel the world, and she could never see her baby, and
1:21:07
whatnot. What
1:21:09
traveling theater troop would
1:21:11
have actually hired these two
1:21:14
wildly unstable teenagers? I
1:21:16
wish I knew what it was. Ha
1:21:19
ha ha! Hey, Davenport, Iowa!
1:21:22
What are you doing this Friday night? How
1:21:24
about you come down to the out-of-the-box, see some
1:21:27
theater? No spiratus! A
1:21:29
vampire-fied story of a musical!
1:21:33
Ah, let me give you a little preview here. When
1:21:38
you're a vamp, you're a
1:21:41
vamp all the way from your very first
1:21:43
sire to your last Sunday day when you're
1:21:45
a vamp. If
1:21:47
the blood hits the fang, you're coming
1:21:49
to round, you're a big vampire gang,
1:21:51
with your vamp! See
1:21:54
you Friday night, girls and girls! Ha ha! We're
1:21:56
gonna have a great time! So
1:22:02
maybe it's like, you know, maybe it's something like that. Whatever
1:22:05
it was. Rod, I mean, Visago, not
1:22:07
interested. Soon Rod God was
1:22:09
pushing Shai aside again, sleep with her on occasion, but
1:22:12
then telling her that he was having fantasies about cutting her
1:22:14
up and killing her on other occasions. So that's
1:22:16
pretty cool. That's a healthy relationship. One
1:22:18
day Shai returned to see half of the windows in her
1:22:21
trailer busted out. And now she knew that it was
1:22:23
time to get away from Rod. This time for real. He's
1:22:25
out of control. The person who
1:22:27
should have stood up to Rod, his mom, Sandra, not
1:22:29
helpful during all of this.
1:22:31
She'll claim later that she worried about him being a Murray from the
1:22:33
very beginning, knowing he stood out because of his
1:22:35
dark clothes and strange obsessions. And
1:22:38
she is full of shit. If
1:22:41
you were so worried, Sandra, why did you drag him back
1:22:43
there? Why not stay in Florida? It's
1:22:45
not like you moved back to Murray for a fucking great
1:22:47
job. You moved back to the South Side Manor apartments so
1:22:49
you could party, not to pay rent. She
1:22:52
could have tried to find something similar in Florida. You
1:22:54
know, Noah mentioned that she did. She could have at
1:22:56
least tried working on a whole lot of steady
1:22:58
job for once in her fucking life, living in
1:23:00
the studio apartment with Rod, something, anything other than
1:23:02
being a piece of shit, just like Rod's dad.
1:23:05
And again, she may have been sleeping with her son this time.
1:23:09
Sandra will later say she knew that Rod was
1:23:11
on the precipice of being expelled from school for
1:23:13
truancy. She, that he got detention for smoking cigarettes,
1:23:15
using foul language in front of a Mrs. Stone
1:23:17
Cipher. Later he'll get into a,
1:23:19
she doesn't do anything about it. Later he'll
1:23:21
get into a verbal altercation with Mrs. Stone
1:23:23
Cipher. And he'll be expelled from school. The
1:23:26
assistant principal at Callaway High, Dennis Fisher, determined
1:23:29
that Rod will be better served by an
1:23:31
alternative school. By the summer's end, Rod
1:23:34
was telling his mom and others he was just going to get a job in
1:23:36
his GED. He also let Sandra
1:23:38
supposedly bring him to a place called Western Kentucky
1:23:40
Mental Health for a psych eval, but
1:23:42
wouldn't do him any good. He was assigned
1:23:44
to write an essay about drugs, but refused. Sandra
1:23:47
never took him back for any follow ups. Soon
1:23:49
Sandra would file a beyond parental control
1:23:51
report, having gone down to the
1:23:53
administrative offices of the courts in Callaway County.
1:23:56
Sandra was hoping to be freed from any legal
1:23:59
parental responsibility over Rod. on the ground
1:24:01
she was powerless to control him, which she probably
1:24:03
was at this point. And I
1:24:05
should add she might not have been molesting
1:24:07
him. His grandfather also may not have
1:24:09
molested him, maybe not. I
1:24:11
take allegations of this nature very seriously, but Rod clearly
1:24:13
has a hard time processing what is real, what's only
1:24:16
in his head. He for sure
1:24:18
does lie a lot. I mean he's telling
1:24:20
a lot of people he's a legit vampire, which is for sure
1:24:22
not true. He's still alive in
1:24:24
prison right now and not one guard has ever mentioned
1:24:26
him getting burned by sunlight, not having a reflection, being
1:24:28
averse to garlic. He's never turned into
1:24:30
a bat and just flown out of prison. But
1:24:33
with these allegations, ah, as
1:24:36
much of a liar as Rod is, you know Rod's
1:24:38
aunt also testified that
1:24:40
Rod's grandfather molested Sandra.
1:24:44
And I do think based on kind of Rod's
1:24:46
behavior and Sandra's behavior, yeah, there's a good chance
1:24:48
that some real bad shit happened to him. Sandra
1:24:50
told a court-designated juvenile court worker, Jane
1:24:52
Ann Turner, that Rod had been involved with
1:24:55
drugs in Florida, trying to get,
1:24:57
you know, free to print a responsibility, that she thought he
1:24:59
was involved in Satanic cult. She left
1:25:01
out details about her also being involved in the
1:25:03
occult, marrying a guy who was
1:25:05
weighing the Satanic worship, a dude who gave her
1:25:08
some drugs, and she also left out
1:25:10
the part about her, you know, having drawn drugs with Rod
1:25:12
probably for years. A report was filed
1:25:14
with the court, and a meeting was scheduled for Rod
1:25:16
and Sandra. Neither one of them
1:25:18
ever showed. Instead they reconciled. Sandra
1:25:21
moved into a new apartment with more room. Rod
1:25:23
moved back in with her. She allowed Rod to
1:25:25
do the decorating, and he spray-painted pentagrams on the
1:25:27
floors and built altars in the bedrooms. A
1:25:30
lot of stuff going on. She also let him
1:25:32
bring over his vampiric buddies, and they got to do
1:25:34
basically whatever they wanted. She loved
1:25:36
having him and his friends around. She even started
1:25:38
referring to herself as a member of Rod's coven. Dyed
1:25:41
her hair black, started wearing goth clothes. Fuck's
1:25:44
sake. August of 1996,
1:25:46
Rod and Jaden have a fallout. Rod
1:25:49
filed an assault complaint against Jaden. Jaden's thrown
1:25:51
in jail. He'll quickly be released on a
1:25:53
$500 bond, and almost end up
1:25:55
being sentenced to serve six months in county jail, all because
1:25:58
of Rod's sworn statement that claimed Jaden's Jaden
1:26:00
bashed his head against the wall and choked him. In
1:26:02
addition, Jaden ordered to have no contact with Rod
1:26:05
for two years. But when Jaden
1:26:07
is released after his initial short jail stint,
1:26:10
the two boys make up, the charges are dropped,
1:26:13
Rod's not going to testify in their buddies again. These
1:26:16
kids are all over the place. Sonder claimed she
1:26:18
again grew worried about her son by the end of August.
1:26:21
He seemed to be spiraling. He'd always
1:26:23
been into goth fashion, but now he's dressing like
1:26:25
Marilyn Manson, wearing bodysuits, paint his nails black, wearing
1:26:27
eyeliner, face paint, putting his hair up in a
1:26:29
bunch of miniature ponytails, mixing up
1:26:31
a shit ton of drugs. That
1:26:34
August, Sonder contacted the Murray Police Department about
1:26:36
Rod leaving home without permission, then
1:26:39
called the very next day to take back the report, saying
1:26:42
that he just had to fight with his girlfriend. Everything's
1:26:44
fine. I bet the local police in
1:26:46
Murray loved Sonder and Rod. I bet
1:26:48
they never mocked them or bitched about what
1:26:50
a pain in the ass they were. Not
1:26:52
ever. Sonder made another
1:26:54
call to that juvenile court worker, Jane Ann Turner,
1:26:57
in late August, realizing that her son
1:26:59
was being verbally abusive, then canceled her
1:27:01
appointment with Mrs. Turner the next day. The
1:27:03
dynamic duo would finally appear at an appointment in
1:27:06
mid-September where Sonder told Jane Ann that Rod was
1:27:08
carrying around occult books, dropping a shit ton of
1:27:10
LSD, and hurting himself. She
1:27:13
forgot to tell Jane Ann that she was also
1:27:15
fucking around with occult books and using drugs. Jane
1:27:18
Ann recommended rehab, but Sonder refused to sign any
1:27:20
paperwork to send him there. Now she
1:27:22
wants him to stay home with her. Then a
1:27:24
few months later in November, she'll file a
1:27:26
habitual runaway complaint, seemingly ready to press charges
1:27:28
against her son again. However, by that time,
1:27:31
Sonder will be facing serious legal problems of
1:27:33
her own. More on that in a bit.
1:27:36
First, some other disturbing problems Rod is facing.
1:27:38
Rod was called into Sheriff Stan Scott's office early in the
1:27:40
first week of November 1996. Probable
1:27:44
cause for cruelty to animals and criminal
1:27:46
trespassing had been filed by Officer Warren
1:27:48
Hopkins regarding a briefing at the
1:27:50
Callaway County Humane Society. Apparently
1:27:53
some puppies. There had been, this is
1:27:55
rough, quote, mutilated.
1:27:58
Bojangles just started paying attention. this episode for the very first
1:28:00
time. Previously, he was not interested
1:28:03
because he felt like all these people were worthless
1:28:05
fucking nerds who did not deserve any breath spent
1:28:07
telling their melodramatic story. His worth not
1:28:09
mine. Anyway, the Polaroid pictures
1:28:11
of this hideous act were circulating
1:28:13
to the high school cafeteria. Then
1:28:15
Rod's old girlfriend, young woman he sometimes talked
1:28:18
about murdering shy, spoke to the
1:28:20
police and told them that Rod had bragged to her about
1:28:22
doing something at the animal shelter with a knife. By
1:28:25
this time, most of Rod's old vampire friends, minus
1:28:27
Charity, were growing to be quite afraid
1:28:29
of him. He talked too much
1:28:31
about creepy shit. He was threatening to
1:28:33
kill people too much. Rod's pervy, odd mom
1:28:35
weirded them out. The honeymoon
1:28:38
between Murray's Goss crowd and Rod's saga was
1:28:40
quickly wearing off. These other kids were
1:28:42
mostly just laying around, playing
1:28:44
around with vampire stuff. Rod truly seemed to
1:28:46
be an evil bloodsucker, or wanting to be.
1:28:50
So why didn't Charity also bounce? Let's
1:28:52
talk about her for a second. She was
1:28:54
perhaps predestined to be a bit more impressionable than
1:28:56
your average teenage girl. She'd been
1:28:58
raised by a dad who was often gone at work,
1:29:00
leaving her alone with her increasingly dark thoughts, a goth
1:29:03
kid herself. She'd gotten real
1:29:05
into voodoo before meeting Rod, fascinated by the
1:29:07
sacrificial use of blood. Then she fell in love with
1:29:09
Roon. The relationship was, as we've
1:29:11
somewhat covered, very tumultuous. Full of
1:29:13
breakups, incidents of cheating to get back on one
1:29:16
another, recorded in countless letters that Rod bombarded her
1:29:18
with. In these letters, he would promise
1:29:20
her shit like she would always be his queen. He
1:29:22
told her that she was the one pure mortal
1:29:24
on earth that she would be at
1:29:26
his side eternally. He told her that he snuck into her
1:29:28
bedroom to watch her while she slept, even
1:29:31
showing her a key to her own house that she had not
1:29:33
given him. Huge red
1:29:35
flags. But
1:29:37
she was 16, right? Full of
1:29:39
hormones, lonely, melodramatic, craving male
1:29:41
attention, not getting a lot outside of Rod. And
1:29:44
she found all this endearing. But
1:29:47
now she is starting to wonder what the hell is going
1:29:49
on with Rod. Why is everyone else starting to stay away
1:29:51
from him? Why is he seem paranoid lately? The
1:29:54
only person who seemed to offer a clue to what was
1:29:56
going on with Scott, Rod's old friend and
1:29:58
new best friend. Now that Jaden's out. Scott
1:30:00
would tell charity that being an immortal is hard. It's
1:30:05
painful, right? You know, he
1:30:07
and Rod, they're both immortals. He and Rod, they're
1:30:09
just so sick of making
1:30:11
new friends every century, only
1:30:14
to have to surrender them to death. Yeah,
1:30:16
he's really saying stuff like that. Or
1:30:22
maybe, you know, I don't know, Rod has just said, why
1:30:24
is Rod sad though, if
1:30:26
charity is his eternal mate? He feels
1:30:29
very confused about all this. But like I said,
1:30:31
she still loves Rod. So she stays. Back
1:30:33
at the police station, Rod showed up to his
1:30:35
meeting with Sheriff Scott in white theatrical makeup all
1:30:38
over his face with his lips painted
1:30:40
red like he's a fucking clown. And
1:30:42
he's not laughing. Like he's just doing this like it's a normal thing to do.
1:30:45
Like he's the Joker from Batman going to meet the cops.
1:30:48
I'm sure the officers had a real good laugh about all this
1:30:50
once he left, or maybe, you know, when he showed up. Rod
1:30:53
accused the police of picking on him due to his beliefs. He
1:30:56
said the whole town was after him. They kicked him
1:30:58
out of school. They misjudged and mistreated
1:31:00
him. Because what? Because he
1:31:02
wasn't some preppy rich kid. And another
1:31:04
thing, he literally told the police, they should
1:31:06
be happy with him. Because he'd
1:31:09
shown great restraint when it came to
1:31:11
keeping himself in check. He hadn't killed
1:31:13
anyone. So Sheriff was a
1:31:15
bit alarmed and confused by that. Yeah, I bet. Hey,
1:31:17
listen, officers, have I been perfect? No. Have
1:31:21
I maybe committed some petty crimes? Oh, fuck yeah,
1:31:23
I have. But you should thank
1:31:25
me. I haven't murdered
1:31:27
anyone yet, even though I
1:31:29
think about it a lot. You're
1:31:31
welcome. Sheriff
1:31:33
Scott couldn't tell if Rod was a walking time bomb or
1:31:36
just another, you know, kid trying to act tougher. Well,
1:31:39
he did assume Rod was behind the puppy killings, since
1:31:41
he had no hard evidence. Rod had
1:31:43
no criminal record and wasn't going to confess there was
1:31:45
nothing he could do to put Rod behind bars. That'll
1:31:48
come soon enough, though. Out of
1:31:50
the grasp of police for the moment, Rod returns to
1:31:52
charity side where he keeps encouraging her to embrace her
1:31:54
dark side like he's Emperor fucking Palpatine or some shit
1:31:57
or Darth Vader by telling her to cut
1:31:59
her. He also starts doing random
1:32:02
weird shit like shattering ashtrays and lightbulbs around her,
1:32:04
which when she least expects just to try and
1:32:06
scare her, make her flinch. At
1:32:08
one point just to scare her, he sets his own living
1:32:10
room on fire. Oh boy. His
1:32:13
covet outside of a few followers had now all turned their backs
1:32:15
on him, even snubbing him at a
1:32:17
Halloween celebration they were supposed to attend. With
1:32:20
his remaining followers, Rod God keeps
1:32:23
getting weirder. He's talking more and
1:32:25
more about how he was searching now for
1:32:27
telltale signs of past civilizations, looking for evidence
1:32:29
of the cults of the dying gods that
1:32:31
have destroyed the Roman Empire,
1:32:34
and gesticulating about the worship of Osiris, the
1:32:36
judge of the dead, responsible for the fall
1:32:38
of the Egyptian pharaohs. All
1:32:41
the kind of stuff he's saying. He said it was just a
1:32:43
matter of time before he took over the whole fucking universe and
1:32:46
plunged the world into a huge and ruthless war
1:32:48
by taking over the airwaves, TV satellites, and the
1:32:50
internet. Did they mention that Rod
1:32:52
is dropping a ton of acid again? Yeah, he is.
1:32:55
Easy on the acid, Rod. You've really lost
1:32:57
touch with reality. One tub
1:32:59
of acid. Two tubs
1:33:01
of acid. Three, four,
1:33:04
ten, twenty, all the
1:33:06
tubs of acid. When
1:33:10
anyone tried to argue against any of his proclamations, he
1:33:13
would say stuff like, you know, he'll chop their head
1:33:15
off, burn their body. Don't stop mouthing off
1:33:17
to him. November 5th, 1996, more
1:33:19
vampire drama. Shai,
1:33:21
aka April Doden, signs an affidavit with law
1:33:23
officials in Callaway County to complain about an
1:33:25
attack involving Rod Farrell, another kid
1:33:28
named Michael Shafer, and a third kid named Jason
1:33:30
Jones. According to Shai's statement,
1:33:32
the three young men had come
1:33:34
driving up in Jason's car looking for Jaden at her
1:33:36
trailer. Violating
1:33:38
a restraining order Rod had placed on
1:33:41
Jaden that was still in effect, despite
1:33:43
them patching things up shortly
1:33:45
after Rod was granted it. At the
1:33:47
trailer, Rod and Jaden got into a fight, and
1:33:49
then the three boys jumped into Jason Jones' car,
1:33:51
tried to back away over Shai, who was trying
1:33:53
to get the car's plate number, and
1:33:55
the right rear tire went over her foot. She
1:33:58
was hurt, but also relieved that it wasn't a crime. a
1:34:00
whole lot worse. Jaden will back up Shai's
1:34:02
statement to police, by the way. An
1:34:04
arrest warrant served in mid-November 1996, charging
1:34:06
Jason Jones with wanton endangerment of Class D
1:34:08
felony. He was released on $2,500
1:34:10
bail, and then later the charges will be dropped.
1:34:13
That night at Shai's trailer would be the last time Shai would
1:34:15
ever even see Rod. Not long before
1:34:18
that night, did I mention that Rod had begged Jaden to kill
1:34:20
him to chop his head off? Shai
1:34:22
and Jaden shook their heads when he said that, hoping
1:34:24
their old friend would just go get some help. He's
1:34:27
going through a bunch of shit. He needed to be
1:34:29
placed in a psychiatric treatment facility. Switching
1:34:31
over to charity now, guess what? By
1:34:33
mid-November, she's almost positive she's pregnant with
1:34:36
Rod's baby, but doesn't tell anyone. Whatever
1:34:38
doubt she had about Rod's plan to take over the world, now
1:34:40
she tries to squash him, but
1:34:42
she does give Rod an ultimatum. It's her or
1:34:45
the drugs, and Rod chooses
1:34:48
the drugs. They didn't want surprise. She
1:34:50
quickly now starts fooling around with a nice kid from
1:34:52
her neighborhood named Brian to make Rod jealous, but then
1:34:54
stops that because Rod is stalking the two of them
1:34:57
and freaking Brian out like a week
1:34:59
later the two are back together. Life
1:35:01
moving so fast and loose for these uber dramatic
1:35:03
teen vamps. Now charity
1:35:05
comes clean about her pregnancy. Rod not happy, tells
1:35:08
her he's going to jump off the arts building, said
1:35:10
he is not ready for another baby because
1:35:13
get this, he already had a baby with some
1:35:15
girl, Jaden, but the infant was killed in a car
1:35:17
wreck. Who the fuck is Jaden? Not
1:35:20
real, guessing. Sources do not say, seems
1:35:22
like Rod made her up, made up that whole story, but
1:35:26
charity believes it. Hook, line and sinker. She
1:35:28
just keeps hanging around hoping that Rod will wake up, decide to be
1:35:30
a good partner and father. Even lets him
1:35:32
drag her into some more occult
1:35:34
ceremonies he's holding in the boiler room of
1:35:36
the college stadium now. Rod
1:35:38
had set up a small altar there with holy water and
1:35:40
daggers and was leading his coven through
1:35:44
some kind of meditation where
1:35:46
they would all concentrate on time
1:35:49
traveling. Yeah, why not?
1:35:51
Actually, they would concentrate on using glowing
1:35:53
ropes in order to be able to
1:35:55
time travel. Why not? I mean, you
1:35:57
have to concentrate on glowing ropes. If
1:36:00
you ever want to time travel and
1:36:02
hope to access the fourth dimension, there
1:36:07
is a fourth dimension that is known
1:36:09
to man, but not fully understood.
1:36:12
It is known to vampire, and
1:36:14
it is as timeless as infinity.
1:36:18
It lies between our world and
1:36:20
the world of darkness and
1:36:22
fully encompasses the present, past and future.
1:36:26
It is a dimension between science and superstition,
1:36:29
a dimension of those vampires who will amongst us
1:36:32
and constantly fight with one another over
1:36:34
who has the most powerful magic, who
1:36:36
is the real father of the babies they
1:36:39
give away. It is a
1:36:41
dimension that lies just beyond parties, a
1:36:44
dimension where no one ever gets a job and
1:36:46
everyone stays up too late, too often, playing
1:36:48
games like vampire or the masquerade. It
1:36:51
is a dimension I like to call the
1:36:54
pathetic Murray Kentucky Vampires Home. Back
1:36:58
to the story. Also in mid-November,
1:37:00
Rod and a few other kids meet in
1:37:02
the woods behind Hardee's, fucking Hardee's, at
1:37:05
the vampire hotel, where they
1:37:07
can make supernatural things happen, like
1:37:10
making people their puppets through telekinesis, all
1:37:13
powerful vampires, dicking around in the
1:37:15
woods behind Hardee's, probably
1:37:18
after grabbing cheeseburgers and fries and
1:37:20
shakes, like the undead are wont
1:37:22
to do, thinking they are turning people
1:37:24
into puppets, and yet still having their
1:37:26
moms pay their bills. Maybe
1:37:29
they made their moms their puppets. One
1:37:31
of the girls who especially believed in all of this was Charity's
1:37:33
friend Dana Cooper. Unpoppetered at school, Dana
1:37:35
had a reputation for being a goofball, yet
1:37:38
she somehow becomes Rod's trusted new servant,
1:37:42
possibly because she had her own apartment, where
1:37:44
Rod and Scott Anderson could
1:37:46
stay for free, while they planned an upcoming
1:37:48
escape to Florida now. Time
1:37:51
to check back in with the mother of vampires, Sondra, at
1:37:55
some point in early November, while Rod Sago and
1:37:57
his crew are planning a Florida run. Penny
1:37:59
Murphy, Jay-Z, Murphy's mom submitted an affidavit in
1:38:01
Callaway County that Sondra had kissed her son
1:38:03
against his will. Not Jaden, Jaden's
1:38:06
younger brother Jamie, 14 years old. 35
1:38:09
years old, Sondra had mailed a
1:38:11
letter to 14 year old Jamie, writing that she
1:38:13
wanted to fuck him and acknowledging
1:38:15
that she knew he was very young earlier
1:38:18
in the summer of 1996. Maybe
1:38:20
Rod not lying about his mom beat a pedo. June
1:38:23
23rd, she'd mailed him a second
1:38:25
letter asking Jamie again straight up to
1:38:28
let her fuck him. Even sent Jamie a
1:38:30
key to her apartment asking that Jamie come live
1:38:32
with her. Then she sent Jamie
1:38:34
a necklace in another letter writing,
1:38:36
so you can wear it and know you thought about it
1:38:38
and missed a lot. Of
1:38:40
course Rod will end up in prison in
1:38:42
this episode for the rest of his life between
1:38:45
his fucking deadbeat dad and Sondra Von Bat shit.
1:38:47
Dude never had a chance. In
1:38:50
that third letter, Sondra or in a third letter, Sondra
1:38:52
wrote, you may be young, but you are fine.
1:38:54
She wished they could have wild sex
1:38:56
every night. She wrote, I think
1:38:58
about being French kissed and fucked by you all
1:39:00
the time. I hope it doesn't upset you by
1:39:02
my feeling this way. She
1:39:04
assured him that he shouldn't be afraid of sex and that
1:39:06
she would never hurt him or make him feel uncomfortable. She
1:39:09
would even empty out a drawer for him when he
1:39:11
moved in. She added, I'll
1:39:13
wear my blue denim sundress and we could kiss
1:39:15
for a while. Then while we're kissing,
1:39:18
I'll unzip your pants and go down and lick you and
1:39:20
suck you until you're just about to
1:39:22
get off my mouth. Then I'll pull my dress up
1:39:24
and move my panties over and guide you inside me.
1:39:27
Rod will wonder later if she had been pretending
1:39:29
to be into his vampire shit just so she could try
1:39:31
and fuck his teenage friends. Yeah, she's
1:39:33
a piece of shit. I'll be honest,
1:39:36
when I was 14, this
1:39:38
is not good. This is not good. When I was
1:39:41
14, I would have definitely fucked a hot neighbor lady,
1:39:43
Paula, who was also about 35. If she
1:39:45
would have shown any, if she would have written
1:39:48
me that letter, holy shit, I would have been
1:39:50
sprinty. I would have like, maybe like a cartoon
1:39:52
just fucking smashed through the wall and just been
1:39:54
straight over into her place. But
1:39:56
that doesn't mean that what Sondra is doing here
1:39:58
isn't deplorable and heinous. What
1:40:01
she's doing is just as gross as a 35-year-old man trying
1:40:03
to fuck a 14-year-old girl. She's a
1:40:05
deranged predator. Terrible excuse for a
1:40:07
mom. November 12, 1996,
1:40:09
Sandra Gibson charged with soliciting rape and soliciting
1:40:12
sodomy. She'd be appointed a
1:40:14
public defender, Dennis Lourdy. In response
1:40:16
to all this, Jaden and Rod decide to meet up
1:40:18
in a tucked away rural cemetery. Always
1:40:21
a cemetery, with these dipshits. And
1:40:23
yes, I know that Rod has just gotten into a fight
1:40:25
with Jaden at Shai's trailer a week earlier or so, but
1:40:27
now I guess they're cool again. Nonstop
1:40:30
drama. No one in this episode is stable. Here
1:40:33
in the cemetery, Rod will tell Jaden that it
1:40:35
was Sandra who forced him to sign the affidavit
1:40:37
against him, saying that Jaden hit him, even though
1:40:39
he didn't, because she was jealous of Rod and
1:40:41
Jaden's close relationship. I don't doubt it.
1:40:44
She's toxic as shit. Rod and Jaden decide
1:40:46
that enough is enough. They're gonna never
1:40:48
let somebody significantly older than them into their coven
1:40:50
ever again. They're two very
1:40:52
powerful vampires. They're fucking sick of
1:40:54
Rod's mom, trying to keep them separated and weak.
1:40:56
They should combine their covens. They
1:40:59
also discussed killing Sandra and her
1:41:01
father, Rod's pedo papa, Harold, but
1:41:04
abandoned that idea. Instead, Rod said he wanted
1:41:06
to leave town. He proposed they both
1:41:08
moved to Eustace, Florida, where he reassured Jaden
1:41:10
he had a ton of followers, like
1:41:13
an entire army of super
1:41:15
cool, very powerful vampires. Even
1:41:18
though Jaden had supposedly not sired Rod until
1:41:20
after he left Eustace, but whatever. No
1:41:23
need to get hung up on important details. Rod is
1:41:25
high a lot of the time, and he's been alive for centuries.
1:41:27
And things get mixed up. Jaden was
1:41:29
not interested in going to Florida. He had just
1:41:31
graduated high school, had plans to attend college. He wanted
1:41:33
to study drama, begin an acting career. He's not as
1:41:35
into this stuff as much as it seems in the
1:41:38
moment. He also kept
1:41:40
remembering that Rod is fucking crazy. Still
1:41:42
he later said he played along, telling Rod he'd go
1:41:44
with him in his Florida group to Baton Rouge, Louisiana
1:41:46
for whatever reason. Louisiana just, you know,
1:41:48
it's a place to be for a lot
1:41:51
of modern vampires. It's the main vampire state in the
1:41:53
United States. A few days
1:41:55
later, he really decides not to go, when
1:41:57
during another graveyard meetup, he watches Rod out
1:41:59
of nowhere. kill a stray kitten. Sources
1:42:02
do not say how, I'm guessing it was gruesome. Rod
1:42:05
still 16, killing numerous small animals, starting at
1:42:07
least one fire, talking about death all the
1:42:09
time, super delusional, infatuated with the evil aspects
1:42:11
of vampirism, dude was on his
1:42:14
way towards becoming a serial killer. Or
1:42:17
cult leader, or both. Or both. Jaden
1:42:19
officially ends up a friendship now after the kitten incident. I
1:42:22
will not be moving anywhere with Rod. Following
1:42:24
their partying, Rod gets more destructive. Now the
1:42:26
young man starts making Molotov cocktails in his
1:42:29
bedroom. More fire. Has plans
1:42:31
to blow up the old Salem cemetery with the help
1:42:33
of another friend, Peter Reynolds. Deputies
1:42:35
at Calaway County PD hear about this plan, even
1:42:37
have a stakeout to make sure they don't
1:42:39
fucking set the cemetery on fire. Nothing
1:42:41
happens. November 22nd, 1996, Friday
1:42:45
Rod leaves Murray, Kentucky now with
1:42:47
Scott Anderson age 16, Charity Kesey
1:42:49
age 16, and Charity's
1:42:51
friend Dana Cooper 19 at around 11
1:42:53
p.m. Guests in the Murray PD,
1:42:56
if they heard about this, we're so glad to
1:42:58
see them go. Their plan
1:43:00
was simple. Pick up Heather Wendorf in Florida, head
1:43:02
from there to New Orleans, obvious
1:43:04
center of vampiric activity in the US. After
1:43:07
kicking in New Orleans for a bit, they would
1:43:09
go on to Cairo and Rome, a couple of
1:43:11
global vampiric hot spots, Abi, and then Rod would
1:43:13
show them what he now believed to be his
1:43:15
ancestral castle in Wales, and they would take it
1:43:17
back. 100%. I mean, I mean, this is
1:43:20
okay, take all your emotion out of it. Objectively,
1:43:22
this is a great plan. It's a great plan. It has to
1:43:24
work out. It has to. I mean, have they
1:43:27
bought their flights yet? No. Do
1:43:29
they have money to buy those flights? No. Do
1:43:31
they even know how to buy flights? I'm
1:43:33
gonna say no. Have any of them ever been on a flight? Do
1:43:36
they even have a postal stay in New
1:43:38
Orleans? They don't. Do they literally
1:43:40
know a single person who lives in
1:43:42
Cairo or Rome, or have been to
1:43:45
Cairo or Rome ever, or could even
1:43:47
point to a map with certainty where
1:43:49
Cairo and Rome is? Highly unlikely. Are
1:43:51
all of them even aware that Wales is
1:43:53
in the UK, Or that the
1:43:56
name Wales has literally nothing to do with large swimming mammals
1:43:58
with blowholes and actually is derived from the. The old
1:44:00
English word for foreigners? A Fucking. I'm actually not.
1:44:02
But you know what? They're. With
1:44:04
Rod Dog God Ra Ra Sahgal
1:44:06
ten years of and parks You
1:44:08
fucking teleport them with athletics so
1:44:10
there's your best. Like a really
1:44:12
big bats in a climb up
1:44:14
on top of and will fly
1:44:16
across the Atlantic. Easy to pc
1:44:18
one both T claims on to
1:44:20
rob that so goth kids climb
1:44:23
onto rug but ah ah ah.
1:44:25
And. With before the for floor. Rotted
1:44:27
Promises has will discuss emptier bride once he rescued
1:44:29
her from her pieces him. As gas
1:44:32
pumps. His. Pockets guess he's of
1:44:34
origin and he super stoked about his
1:44:36
bride. promise. Has a family was
1:44:38
not for the record? These? No no. We talked about
1:44:40
loving earlier. Scott even thought so that they were loving.
1:44:43
Or when he taught that are on the phone who never complained
1:44:45
about fight with the parents. But he didn't
1:44:47
in front Rod about this, a point he didn't confront
1:44:49
right about anything. To layer say after
1:44:51
his arrest truly believed his friend was immortal. The
1:44:55
city grants got superpowers and once you he was this
1:44:57
time you know believe in the you the moral. Immortal
1:45:01
vampire who also writes really city let a
1:45:03
letters and a letter to Heather before they
1:45:05
left Scott roots. as
1:45:07
the success of this is of
1:45:10
those starts. As you
1:45:12
know, I'm a thousand and seventeen.
1:45:14
Your schools. As awesome for sense
1:45:16
as you know. I was thousand and seventeen
1:45:18
years old. My actual birthplace
1:45:20
of Scotland's. Sometimes. I talk in
1:45:22
a Scottish accent. I would taste
1:45:25
for bagpipes. I Like or Bonnie Little
1:45:27
Tunes. My actual breed of
1:45:29
empire is called a damn bar. In
1:45:33
his second vampire. And other words,
1:45:35
I beat up blood and souls of those who
1:45:38
I'd choose to kill. But I've until the Person
1:45:40
almost two years. I. Have a sword fighter.
1:45:44
Command deception and hatred. but I don't
1:45:46
like lot of people. I
1:45:49
show no mercy to men, but you are not human.
1:45:51
I take it. So. You're says. oh
1:45:54
wow okay ah and same
1:45:56
sense of of that he
1:45:59
writes he's of deception. Three
1:46:01
words later, but I like a lot of people. Oh,
1:46:04
poor Scott. I think part of the reason
1:46:06
that Scott followed Rod was because he didn't have the
1:46:08
sharpest fangs in the coven. Love
1:46:11
that he's a vampire. Are you a vampire? Kind
1:46:13
of? I'm a I'm a vampire. Do
1:46:16
you speak that up? No, you
1:46:18
call me a liar. Don't don't make
1:46:20
me psychically feed off you as vampires do. Again,
1:46:23
I think of what we do in the shadows. So
1:46:26
what about Heather? Did any of this freak her out? Apparently
1:46:28
not. She's eagerly awaiting these
1:46:30
dipshits arrival. For the past several months,
1:46:32
she spent a lot of time talking long distance of
1:46:34
Rod. He actually racked up over $2,000
1:46:37
in long distance charges that will show up on
1:46:39
his mom's bill. Good. When
1:46:41
not talking to Rod, Heather had been unraveling
1:46:44
spending too much time alone in her bedroom, very moody
1:46:46
teen her mental state is rocky. She
1:46:48
spent most of her time wishing she was dead on
1:46:50
the floor crying, cutting herself hoping for some release from
1:46:52
her despair to bad she didn't get therapy. Like
1:46:55
Rod and Scott, she got lost in an elaborate
1:46:57
escapist dream world thinking that she was part animal
1:47:00
part human that she needed to
1:47:02
surrender to her animal side if she ever wanted to really
1:47:04
be happy. Sure, she lived in
1:47:06
a lovely house with two chill kind parents who loved the shit
1:47:08
out of her and just wanted her to express herself. Yes,
1:47:11
she had her own phone line had her own CD player,
1:47:13
own BCR and TV in a room and
1:47:15
a room has been a big ass house with a custom
1:47:17
in ground pool. But she was deeply
1:47:19
unhappy. Her friend Janine similarly
1:47:21
unhappy. Janine was dating her
1:47:24
game master Bob love
1:47:27
but her life still felt empty. She wasn't
1:47:29
interested in witchcraft. The only thing she wanted was
1:47:31
death. She resented her parents for
1:47:33
switching her out of the used to school system taking
1:47:35
her away from best friend Heather and for
1:47:37
putting her in Leesburg high, which he hated. Her
1:47:40
only respite was getting to walk around town with
1:47:42
Heather while they dressed up in Victorian lace from
1:47:45
vintage clothing shops and pretended they were in 19th
1:47:47
century England where they both
1:47:49
thought they belonged due to their obsession with role
1:47:51
playing. But playing dress have
1:47:53
only provided her you know with a temporary relief
1:47:55
from her mental anguish. Suicide
1:47:57
sadly becoming more tempting thought each day she wrote her
1:48:00
and things only got worse when Suzanne Leclerc, Janine's
1:48:03
mom, found the disturbing letters Rod had sent her
1:48:05
and placed a call to Ruth Lindorf who promised
1:48:07
to keep an eye on the girls. The
1:48:09
Lindorfs were also worried about their oldest daughter,
1:48:11
17-year-old Jennifer, who was now spending a lot
1:48:14
of time with a 21-year-old who had totaled
1:48:16
her car. Fucking teenagers! I feel this episode
1:48:18
can be sent to people as a form
1:48:20
of birth control. Do you really?
1:48:22
Do you really want to deal with this shit? Maybe
1:48:24
we don't have kids. So thankful neither
1:48:27
one of my kids is anywhere near this dramatic. Janine
1:48:30
will end up drawing Rod a map of the
1:48:32
Lindorf house, explaining that it would be easier for
1:48:34
him to pick her up from there since her
1:48:36
mom is being such a total bitch about everything
1:48:38
and won't let her run off with fucking brothers!
1:48:42
To impress him, she made the map elaborate,
1:48:44
including diagrams to the furnishings in every room,
1:48:46
specific instructions, how to get to Heather's window.
1:48:49
Meanwhile, Heather chomped at the bit, so ready
1:48:51
to leave home, she felt sick
1:48:53
of her hometown, sick of her parents trying to make her
1:48:56
into some all-American teenager, or you know, keep her safe, and
1:48:58
was dying for Rod to pick her up. November
1:49:01
25th, Monday morning, Heather skips
1:49:03
her AP art class to meet up with
1:49:05
who else but Rod Farrell and his cousin.
1:49:08
The group had arrived in Eustace, Florida in Scott Anderson's
1:49:11
Buick and we're now at a nearby cemetery,
1:49:13
of course, performing a blood ritual, why not? Rod
1:49:16
had called Janine the night before, wanting to
1:49:18
meet up at Lake Seneca Road, and Janine had
1:49:20
gone. Rod kissed, flirted
1:49:23
with her, told her she had a whole
1:49:25
new life waiting for her, but Janine got cold feet
1:49:27
about running away. He said she needed time
1:49:29
to think. Well, Rod didn't want to wait. He's
1:49:32
been waiting fucking hundreds of years already! He
1:49:34
said now or never. He said Heather would be
1:49:36
meeting with him the next day, and then it was off to New Orleans for
1:49:38
all of them. If Janine wasn't going to go, all right, he's going to leave
1:49:40
her home. Janine wanted to think again. That's
1:49:43
what he told him. She already knew, now
1:49:45
that he was really there in the flesh, that the reality
1:49:47
about all this didn't match her fantasy, and she was staying
1:49:50
put. She had talked to him on
1:49:52
the phone but hadn't realized being around him in person would feel
1:49:54
like being around a stranger. Plus, he seemed fucking
1:49:56
scary. Next day, Rod meets up
1:49:58
with Heather. unlike Janine
1:50:00
pumped to see him overjoyed. She
1:50:03
drank his blood from his arm freely, cut her own arm
1:50:05
and returned for him to drink some.
1:50:08
She was excited that she would soon be made into a vampire.
1:50:11
She did have to give Rod some bad news though. Janine called
1:50:13
her that morning, said that she realized she
1:50:16
didn't actually love Rod and didn't want to go on the road trip. Teenagers
1:50:18
so fickle. One minute they're
1:50:20
ready to teleport to Cairo with an immortal
1:50:23
powerful vampire. The next they want to stay
1:50:25
in Florida with their parents and keep dating their game master Bob. Rod
1:50:29
told Heather this was fine with
1:50:31
him. He didn't need Janine. Heather
1:50:33
was the missing link to overthrowing God.
1:50:35
He told her that. Did I mention that
1:50:37
Rod needed Heather to overthrow God? Sorry if I
1:50:40
forgot to mention that very important fact. At
1:50:42
the same time Rod is talking with Heather.
1:50:44
Another Wendorf is cutting classes at school, Jennifer.
1:50:47
She'd been hiding out at her 21 year old boyfriend's house but
1:50:50
then just before three o'clock her mom shows up. But
1:50:52
Ruth not even mad, just wants to know if Jennifer had
1:50:54
seen Heather. Jennifer reports she had not
1:50:56
seen her sister. Meanwhile Rod has now
1:50:58
convinced Heather that she was born evil. Take
1:51:02
her to the edge of eternity and that it was her destiny
1:51:04
to go with him. But first Heather said
1:51:06
she needed to go back home and gather up her shit and
1:51:09
hopefully snag you know some cash for gas money and
1:51:11
truck stop snacks you know and whatnot. Rod
1:51:13
told her they would pick her up tomorrow and then
1:51:15
they would be off. They would
1:51:17
first stock up on beef jerky,
1:51:19
Mountain Dew, Cheetos and Hostess Ding-Dongs
1:51:21
and then the edge of eternity.
1:51:25
Later that night just after dark Rod called
1:51:27
again. Now
1:51:29
insisting that Heather packed her bags immediately. Their beauty got
1:51:31
in a flat tire and they were
1:51:34
in a stolen vehicle now and on the run from
1:51:36
the police. Which they weren't. This is weird that he said that. He's just trying to
1:51:38
get her to hurry. Heather's not into
1:51:40
this. She didn't want to run. She didn't want to run
1:51:42
off right that second. She asked Rod to meet her a
1:51:44
few yards from her house down at the end of Green
1:51:46
Tree Lane where they can talk about things in person. She
1:51:49
left her house in her cutoffs, fishnets and combat
1:51:51
boots. Soon she spied the glowing tips of cigarettes.
1:51:53
Saw the Buick. The
1:51:56
boys are standing outside, Charity and Dana in the
1:51:58
backseat. Heather Told these. The about
1:52:00
see the say goodbye or parents and the meantime Scott
1:52:02
and Rod said find it was pick up to ne.
1:52:05
Did. You think name was a input yardage of.
1:52:08
Early she changed her mind or Rod was
1:52:10
line about her tenure. My or Rod was
1:52:12
confused because he would As you would say
1:52:14
later he had as he was a later
1:52:16
taken eight to ten hits of acid ethnicities.
1:52:19
Ah said what of went to go grabs
1:52:22
name. Who? maybe or maybe not.
1:52:24
Ah added now agree to go Heather a
1:52:26
Better House or she pulled together some her
1:52:28
favorite jeans you're in t shirts together, teddy
1:52:30
bear for sketchbooks or than colds Need to
1:52:32
talk but he was busy. To seven
1:52:34
birthday celebrations, a family. Fucking.
1:52:37
Suck at inhabiting the story in the kitchen.
1:52:39
Other slips: Fifty bucks Edward As while it.
1:52:41
Might. Even stamps. Need gas and truck stop
1:52:43
snacks? in the living room or dad
1:52:46
rich guy at his old high school yearbook out. He.
1:52:48
Showed has a couple of friends, had a listen
1:52:50
for twelve minutes and under what was your mom
1:52:52
and her bedroom or mama's was a lifetime movie.
1:52:54
Heather snuggled into bed with her mom and endured
1:52:57
a commercial breaks that make a phone call to
1:52:59
a boyfriend German telling him that she would lead
1:53:01
him. Oh yes else as was. That
1:53:04
he stuck out note in her bathroom telling her family
1:53:06
could buy this What? this is what her know read.
1:53:09
Here Mom, Dad and Jenny. I
1:53:12
don't have much time but I must say that
1:53:14
I love you all so very much. I'm leaving
1:53:16
for good but I don't want you to worry
1:53:18
about me because I will be fine. I had
1:53:20
to go to Need because you need someone to
1:53:22
look after her. Please. Don't try to
1:53:24
find us. Just know that I'll miss you and
1:53:26
always love you. Had. A. Busy.
1:53:29
As expect, Her
1:53:31
loving parents to read that and not look
1:53:33
for her. Or call the police. I
1:53:36
know these turtles are young, but the
1:53:38
level of immaturity is astounding. Amongst others,
1:53:40
the team. Not. Seven. Have
1:53:43
someone who was in high school and visit and
1:53:45
parents reading this Note: Quite a
1:53:47
bit. How does other and then
1:53:49
just what? To turn into a dullard?
1:53:52
say if. She's okay,
1:53:54
Now we'll we'll need to worry about her
1:53:56
suicide. As he said, South Seas is
1:53:59
he's doing the right. You need
1:54:01
someone to look after her? For
1:54:03
the rest of her life, I guess. And Heather
1:54:05
needs to focus on watching her twenty four Seven,
1:54:07
Three, Sixty five, Forever pellets. She'll have to focus
1:54:10
so much so never have time to ever talk
1:54:12
to us again. Not even for thirty seconds on
1:54:14
the phone. One time. And. That's okay
1:54:16
baby. I'm. Proud of her. We.
1:54:18
Read to Rights. Place. To
1:54:21
write. Ah soon had a
1:54:23
was get into the stones are. hordes,
1:54:25
The accede not so in Carson
1:54:27
to some be built with shared
1:54:29
indiana then they feel disappointed. Jammies
1:54:31
us. Has or wanted to talk to him
1:54:33
once. Warm person, Or jeremy ask where
1:54:35
Rod was. Heather report that he and Scott
1:54:37
went to pick up Zinni. Are
1:54:39
they didn't Heather know as Jeremy to come with
1:54:41
him? Bob. Because he wasn't completely
1:54:44
bug and saints, he turns around. While.
1:54:46
They talk charities ends up cross your arms. Intel tells
1:54:48
them they have to go any go Grab Rod and
1:54:51
Scott. And. Where are they? Whether or not
1:54:53
picking up to any another change in plans or maybe
1:54:55
that was never the plan. Or the
1:54:57
plan they had I think was mostly about change
1:54:59
the plant. As often as possible is
1:55:01
good like swatting cats season a laser
1:55:03
pointer. All. Over the place. To
1:55:06
live in life, fall and one impulse or
1:55:08
after another are Rod Scott now hidden in
1:55:10
the woods is behind Heather's They watch the
1:55:12
be would pull away and approach the house.
1:55:14
And. Alarm system went off. Then. They
1:55:17
realized they were posted the wrong house. They
1:55:19
were not. The woods behind Heather cells are
1:55:21
in the different woods or down the street.
1:55:24
They're idiots. Again, I think of what
1:55:26
we do in the shadows. These. Are the most
1:55:28
incompetent, bumbling, ancient immortal wise vampires ever?
1:55:31
Now. The scary to the darkness down Heather's
1:55:33
else Rod for the realized that the garage
1:55:35
doors unlocked Tell started as it is walking
1:55:38
like they own the place. Rod will take
1:55:40
the dad Scott what's has the mom what
1:55:42
the hell are they doing. The.
1:55:44
Already have had. Why are they going
1:55:46
to do something to her parents modulator
1:55:48
to investigators? You don't even really know
1:55:50
why. Decided to do it. He.
1:55:53
Said he. Had thought about it. He thought about
1:55:55
maybe sell them for a long while and then he
1:55:57
decided, you know what? Fuck it, Why not? and
1:55:59
also He wanted to steal a car from them and
1:56:02
figured they would be less likely to report it missing if they were you
1:56:04
know dead Scott held a wooden
1:56:06
club. They looked around the garage found a crowbar that
1:56:08
Rod grabbed Perfect for beating
1:56:10
up Heather's parents then they could grab the
1:56:12
car keys and get out They waltz down
1:56:14
the hallway towards the family room catches glimpses of the
1:56:17
TV reflected into the windows Rick was fast asleep on
1:56:19
a couch So Scott and Rod slipped by him cut
1:56:21
the phone cords in the back bedrooms Then
1:56:23
Rick Wendor Wendor briefly awoke to a sharp
1:56:26
blow to the head from a crowbar before
1:56:28
losing consciousness Now Rod had
1:56:30
a decision to make he will later say I Really
1:56:33
have no idea where the notion came from but Scott and I just
1:56:35
decided to kill him So that's what we did in
1:56:38
a childish manner Scott and I am viciously
1:56:40
danced around his body before he was dead
1:56:43
After that first blow after some ambitious
1:56:45
dancing Whatever that is Rod kept beating the 49
1:56:47
year old man just to make sure he was
1:56:49
dead Then Rod took the crowbar stabbed
1:56:51
him to the chest. He now grabbed
1:56:53
Rick's keys and his discover card Scott
1:56:55
frozen now seemed to realize he was in the middle of a
1:56:57
bloodbath Maybe taking some acid too
1:57:00
that day and now is where enough sources don't say While
1:57:02
the fucked up reality of what was happening starts to think
1:57:04
it was Scott Rod is already hunting down his next victim
1:57:07
Ruth is freshly showered in her blue bathrobe hot
1:57:09
cup of coffee in her hands in the kitchen
1:57:12
Slowly she sees two blood-covered vampires
1:57:14
approach and the crowbar She
1:57:16
threw her cup of coffee at Rod which did not hurt
1:57:18
him but didn't rage him He lunged at
1:57:21
her Ruth grabbed scratch his face with her fingernails
1:57:23
and attempt to defend herself as Scott stood next
1:57:25
to them Both finally doing nothing with
1:57:27
a karate kick Rod knocks Ruth to the ground
1:57:29
then starts beating her with the crowbar Rod
1:57:32
struck her hard over and over and over hitting
1:57:34
her in the head again and again until her
1:57:36
skull was little more than a bloody mess Rod
1:57:39
didn't seem fazed at all by what he
1:57:41
had just done He told Scott to pill for
1:57:43
the master bedroom for cash Then just
1:57:45
for funsies Rod goes back uses a cigarette
1:57:47
to burn a V into Rick's chest The
1:57:50
V was feral symbol Visago Which
1:57:53
he accompanied with a dot for each person he considered to be a
1:57:55
vampire in his cult after leaving his calling
1:57:57
card I suppose Rod grabbed Rod grabbed
1:57:59
the keys to the Explorer,
1:58:01
ripped off his blood spattered shirt, cleaned
1:58:03
off his crowbar. Minutes later, the
1:58:06
two young men were at a gas station washing up while
1:58:08
their bloody clothes burned in the Florida woods. Then
1:58:10
they met back up with the Buick. Heather noticed
1:58:12
that her friends were driving her parents' car. She
1:58:15
was confused. Nobody had said anything about
1:58:17
stealing the Explorer, especially her parents' Explorer.
1:58:22
Heather realized that Rod must have tied her parents up or
1:58:24
hurt them, like he was always talking about doing to pretty
1:58:26
much whoever. Heather told Charity
1:58:28
to flash the Buick's bride to the Explorer, telling
1:58:30
it to pull over, but the Explorer was racing,
1:58:32
rushing to the floor tonight. Eventually, they did manage
1:58:34
to flag Rod down. Back
1:58:36
at the house, the Windorfs' two dogs, Bichon and
1:58:38
Jake, had already discovered their parents.
1:58:40
Both barked furiously, their fur turning red as they
1:58:43
tried to revive them. So sad. Heather's
1:58:46
sister, Jennifer, gets home 10.30 p.m., back
1:58:48
from her job at the grocery store. She noticed
1:58:50
that the Explorer was gone, but figured her dad had
1:58:53
just gone out to pick up Heather somewhere. Heather
1:58:55
kept her head down as she moved to the house. It was quiet. She
1:58:57
was actually out a little bit past curfew, went to
1:58:59
her bedroom, without seeing her parents. Soon,
1:59:02
she wanted a snack. As
1:59:04
she walked to the kitchen, she noticed a trail of blood in the
1:59:06
ground. Shrieking, she ran into the kitchen,
1:59:08
calling for her mom, only to find her mom's dead
1:59:10
body on the floor. Still shrieking, she
1:59:12
runs back in the living room, calling for her dad,
1:59:14
finding a gory, bloody mess. What a fucking
1:59:16
nightmare. She calls her boyfriend, Tony, now on her
1:59:19
cell phone, screaming so loudly she had started to hyperventilate,
1:59:21
and then calls 911. Poor
1:59:23
kid. Meanwhile, the Buick and the Explorer
1:59:25
are pulled up next to each other on a remote highway.
1:59:28
Heather wasn't getting any answers about her parents. Instead,
1:59:30
she watched the boys switch the car's license plates.
1:59:33
Heather did see Rod whisper something to Charity, and now
1:59:35
Heather hounded her. What were they talking about? What
1:59:38
was going on? Finally, Charity yelled at
1:59:40
her to shut up. Rod had done something, and she
1:59:42
needed to think. Charity and the others
1:59:44
continued to refuse to answer all her questions. Nobody
1:59:46
would even tell her why they hadn't decided to get Janine
1:59:48
after all. And once they started
1:59:50
driving, she noticed they were headed east, away
1:59:52
from New Orleans. Meanwhile, Janine tells
1:59:54
her mom, Suzanne, that she's worried about Heather.
1:59:57
She was supposed to meet up with Heather, but says Heather never showed up.
2:00:00
Now Janine's worried that her friend has run away
2:00:02
with Rod Farrell. When the
2:00:04
Wendorf's don't answer their phones, Suzanne gets even more
2:00:06
concerned and heads over. She's stunned
2:00:08
to find ambulances, police vehicles, all kinds of shining
2:00:11
lights flooding the streets. She finds
2:00:13
a detective, tells him about Heather's plan to
2:00:15
run away. The detective, very
2:00:17
interested, asks to speak with Janine so
2:00:19
Suzanne heads back home to grab her. While
2:00:22
she does that, detectives and forensics experts
2:00:24
begin to search through clots of blood,
2:00:26
mangled brain tissue, shredded bone. They would
2:00:28
end up collecting over 100 fingerprints. Detectives
2:00:32
interviewed Heather's friends, kept hearing the same word over
2:00:34
and over like they're calling people, right? You know,
2:00:36
the same word they keep hearing is dorks. I
2:00:38
mean vampires. They quickly learned from
2:00:40
Jeremy Huber that Heather run off with a kid
2:00:42
who used to live in the area who told everybody
2:00:44
he was a vampire, Roderick Farrell.
2:00:47
Janine Leclerc also, of course, told them
2:00:49
this. Less than 12 hours
2:00:51
after the murders, an all-points bulletin goes over the
2:00:54
wires and also before daybreak on the 26th, Florida
2:00:56
law enforcement has sent a helicopter and a team
2:00:58
of patrol cars in search of that Ford Explorer.
2:01:02
Early November 26, 1996,
2:01:04
Rod tells his coven to ditch the Buick just
2:01:06
a few miles past Sanford. He
2:01:08
ordered Dana to leave her bags in the woods. She
2:01:10
had about seven, to leave half of them. Heather,
2:01:13
however, didn't want to leave the Buick. She didn't want to be
2:01:15
found in her parents' car because they would be really mad at her. That
2:01:18
was when charity spilled the beans. Don't worry
2:01:20
about it, Heather. Your parents are already dead. Heather
2:01:23
doesn't believe her. She knows that Rod makes
2:01:25
stuff up, maybe just trying to scare her. She
2:01:27
gets into her parents' Explorer and for the next
2:01:29
few hours, the SUV barrels down the interstate, now
2:01:31
heading west as they approach the Florida panhandle. Meanwhile,
2:01:34
that day, Dr. Laura Hare would perform the
2:01:37
initial autopsies of Rick and Ruth. She'd
2:01:39
been told Rick's head looked like hamburger meat,
2:01:42
seen even more horrible than she could have
2:01:45
imagined. There were 56 separate bloodstains, a tooth
2:01:47
knocked out of Rick's mouth, bone fragments in
2:01:49
the dining room, all kinds of gore. Rick
2:01:52
suffered from 22 chop wounds, mostly
2:01:54
skull fractures and brain lacerations, causing
2:01:56
his death. Skin samples
2:01:58
were taken from underneath Ruth's fingernail. She had
2:02:00
a cut on her lower right arm, laceration around
2:02:02
one knuckle. She'd been struck 21 times, 16
2:02:06
times to the head. Her brainstem had
2:02:08
been lacerated, cleaned through. She
2:02:10
was nearly decapitated. My God.
2:02:12
Back with the vampires now. The group slept
2:02:14
overnight off a highway near Tallahassee, heading
2:02:17
to Walmart early in the morning of the 27th to
2:02:19
buy some snacks. Rod also
2:02:21
picked up a large honey knife, paid for it
2:02:23
with Rick Windorf's Discover card. Dana
2:02:26
will use the card again to refuel in Tallahassee. Heather
2:02:28
now feels like a hostage. If Rod had
2:02:31
really killed her parents, as she was starting to suspect, he
2:02:33
could kill her soon as well. Then
2:02:35
after a couple of hours, the explorer runs
2:02:37
out of gas. Geniuses!
2:02:40
They have money. They're on the run
2:02:42
from the law for a double homicide, but they don't
2:02:44
put enough gas in the fucking escape vehicle. Dumbest
2:02:47
vampires ever. Rick's cell phone
2:02:49
was in the glove compartment. Rod grabbed it, promising he
2:02:51
would walk to the nearest gas station and be back
2:02:53
soon. As he walks, Dana, his
2:02:55
assistant, walking with him, he
2:02:58
calls Harold Gibson, his grandpa. Rod
2:03:00
admits he's driving a stolen vehicle, then laughs when
2:03:03
his grandpa suggests he turns himself in. Then
2:03:05
he pretends like his signal is breaking up and ends the call. Okay,
2:03:08
cool. Soon a cop will pull
2:03:10
up behind the explorer. At that
2:03:12
moment, Rod and Dana return with gas, and Rod sweet-talked
2:03:14
the officer, getting him to leave without ever showing a
2:03:16
driver's license. Probably used some vampire
2:03:18
magic to mess with his mind, or
2:03:21
at least convinced himself that's what he did and told his
2:03:23
coven. That actually was kind
2:03:25
of impressive. I'll give him that. As they now drive
2:03:27
again, Rod talked about New Orleans as though he had
2:03:29
lived there for centuries, saying he'd been there back in
2:03:31
the 1700s, lived in the French Quarter, interacted
2:03:34
with the demons, you know, voodoo priestesses,
2:03:36
ghouls, at tracks. Heather
2:03:38
noticed that this story didn't match up with the backstory he
2:03:41
had told her about growing up in Europe, but you know,
2:03:43
whatever. His story's always changing. She's
2:03:46
a little more worried about her, you know, parents being
2:03:48
probably dead than about Rod's backstory right now. She
2:03:51
still held on to some hope their parents were alive. Sometimes
2:03:53
Rod would speak about them as if they were other times,
2:03:56
you know, as if they weren't. Heather
2:03:59
hoped obviously to do it. were or at least said so,
2:04:01
she had definitely written numerous letters telling him over the
2:04:03
past year or so in no uncertain
2:04:05
terms that she wished her parents were dead. And
2:04:08
there are people online still to this day pissed
2:04:10
that she didn't go to prison for a long, long
2:04:13
time for unleashing Rod on her folks. Was
2:04:15
that just teenage melodrama or did she actually want
2:04:17
Rod to kill them? Only she
2:04:20
knows the truth and she'll probably never
2:04:22
admit it if the truth is that she did want them
2:04:24
dead. Soon they do make it to New Orleans. There
2:04:26
they break into some houses that Rod claimed
2:04:28
were once owned by ancient vampires, look
2:04:33
over places for cash, food and weapons. Charity
2:04:36
would also call her mom for money, tipping authorities off
2:04:38
as to where they were. Also
2:04:40
in a French Quarter alleyway, Rod will demand
2:04:43
that Scott, whom he still resented for not
2:04:45
helping any murders, to perform for his
2:04:47
coven. Ask Scott to pretend to be
2:04:49
a member of the nobility in France and describe how his life was
2:04:51
when he first made it to New Orleans. Scott
2:04:54
didn't know a lot about history and he fucked it up. He
2:04:56
couldn't remember what part of France he lived in or what
2:04:58
language and customs of the time were or
2:05:00
any of his millions of memories from life as a
2:05:02
dark prince. God damn it Scott, you're
2:05:05
killing the vibe. You damn pyre half wit. Because
2:05:09
of this embarrassing display, Rod made him assist
2:05:11
in performing a ritual in St. Louis Cemetery
2:05:13
number one later that night. It's
2:05:15
the oldest cemetery in the city where people
2:05:18
like Voodoo priestess Marie Laveau are
2:05:20
buried. After Rod will attempt
2:05:22
to conjure a spirit messenger he named the Zepassi.
2:05:25
Rod slit his wrist a bit, smeared blood in the shape
2:05:27
of an upside down cross on the
2:05:29
locked stone gate entrance to the cemetery.
2:05:32
Then he decided to share a thanksgiving to the gods of
2:05:35
the undead. After which he simply scaled the
2:05:37
wall, hopped over it, dropped down to the other
2:05:39
side, then unlocked to gate for his friends. This
2:05:41
cemetery, locked all the time with the general public since
2:05:43
2015, was opened during the day
2:05:46
but locked at night back in 96. Then
2:05:49
to the cemetery, Heather would discard her personal
2:05:51
belongings, photos, craft books, all signs
2:05:53
of her human childhood, including pictures of her
2:05:55
parents. Rod then
2:05:57
threw the crowbar he had used to kill Heather's parents into
2:05:59
the Mississippi. Mississippi, demanded that Heather give
2:06:01
thanks to the gods of the undead. Charity
2:06:04
and Dana asked me the same. Dana
2:06:07
was the only one who refused to let go
2:06:09
of some personal keepsakes, a few prom pictures, stack
2:06:11
of letters, her resume, bank
2:06:13
statements, couple bills. By the time they
2:06:15
left the cemetery, it was early in the morning on November 28, 1996. Charity's grandma
2:06:20
had reserved a room for them at Howard
2:06:22
Johnson's Baton Rouge, the favorite hotel of vampires.
2:06:24
Off they went thinking everything's going great. At
2:06:27
least Rod was thinking that. They had no idea that
2:06:29
Charity's grandma was working with the police. And
2:06:31
that immediately after they checked in, the cops
2:06:34
would arrest them. Hail Charity's grandma. The
2:06:37
day before, arrest warrants had gone out for five
2:06:39
suspects. The murders of Rick and Ruth Wendorf, Rod
2:06:42
Rick, Charity, Scott, Dana, and Heather.
2:06:45
At 9.30 PM on November 28, Sergeant
2:06:47
Ben Odom placed five teens in custody in Baton
2:06:49
Rouge. After all he'd done,
2:06:51
after all his big vampire going to kick even
2:06:53
God's ass talk, Rod Farrell quietly
2:06:56
surrendered. He was taken into an interrogation
2:06:59
room in Baton Rouge and quickly, proudly
2:07:01
would confess. Here's a little snippet
2:07:05
from his initial confession. Dude did not give
2:07:07
a shit about what he had done to
2:07:09
Heather's parents. He didn't notice me.
2:07:11
Scott didn't
2:07:27
hesitate to take the blame for killing Ruth and
2:07:29
Rick, waved his rights to an attorney
2:07:55
not wanting an adult with him, explained that Scott
2:07:58
was basically an accessory who didn't participate much. They
2:08:00
explained that the girls weren't even there. He
2:08:03
said he only had two things that
2:08:06
bothered him about, now that he was arrested, only two things
2:08:08
bothered him. Neither had shit to do with feeling
2:08:10
bad about murdering Rick and Ruth. He was, one,
2:08:12
sad that he would never be able to see charity again. And
2:08:14
he was, two, angry that when
2:08:17
he was five years old, his grandpa had taken him
2:08:19
to a black mass and sexually abused him. Black
2:08:22
mass? Mm, maybe. Feels
2:08:25
far-fetched, but maybe. Did
2:08:28
you feel any remorse about what you did? Sergeant
2:08:30
Odin asked him. I'm used
2:08:32
to sacrifices, Rod replied. I've been hanging
2:08:34
around gangs and cults forever, and killing is a way of
2:08:36
life. Animals do it, and that's
2:08:38
the way humans are. We're just the worst predators
2:08:40
of all, really. Now even though
2:08:42
Rod had copped to the murder, and was indeed telling
2:08:45
the truth, the police still need to talk
2:08:47
to everybody else, especially Heather. Multiple
2:08:49
people from her school had come forward saying that she
2:08:51
had talked about getting someone from out of state to
2:08:54
kill her parents. However, one
2:08:56
of them, Amber Blood, later did fail the
2:08:58
polygraph, and then admitted she had not even
2:09:00
met Heather. So who knows? November
2:09:03
29th, Lake County officials arrived
2:09:05
to talk to the teenagers. They
2:09:07
had been kept chained to the chairs, and some
2:09:09
chairs in a police department, perhaps because
2:09:11
the teens, oh my God,
2:09:14
perhaps because the teens camaraderie,
2:09:17
even though Rod admitted to being a murderer, continued as
2:09:19
they joked and played with one another. Perhaps
2:09:21
Rod had told them this was all some kind of test. Perhaps
2:09:24
most of them felt like they just didn't have anyone
2:09:26
else left than each other to lean on. Whatever
2:09:29
the reason, their behavior made the Lake County officials,
2:09:31
Sergeant Wayne Longo and Detective Al Gusher, even more
2:09:33
convinced of Heather's guilt. She's not acting like her
2:09:35
parents are dead. They taped
2:09:37
interviews with each of the kids, leaving Heather for last to
2:09:39
get enough ammo against her. Rod would
2:09:41
prove the most useful, saying he and Heather and Janine had planned
2:09:43
to run away together for over a year. Police
2:09:46
had found evidence to back that up. A letter from
2:09:48
Janine smeared with blood, which contained a map of the
2:09:50
Wendorf home, as well as a travel bucket list.
2:09:53
Canada, Ireland, Egypt, Rome, Greece,
2:09:55
France. That same
2:09:57
day Rod's mom, Crazy Asandra, told the Orlando
2:10:00
Orlando Sentinel that
2:10:02
Heather was saying she was going to kill her parents for a long time.
2:10:05
Dana would be the first to be extradited to Lake
2:10:07
County on December 3rd. All of the
2:10:09
teens, minus Heather, would be indicted on charges of murder. Rod
2:10:12
and Scott, first degree. Charity and Dana,
2:10:14
third degree, while prosecutors still figured out if they
2:10:16
wanted to charge Heather or not. December
2:10:19
18th, 1996, Rod, in an interview
2:10:21
with the Sentinel, claimed that he had
2:10:23
to kill the Wendorfs because of a pact he
2:10:25
made with the rival vampire clan in Kentucky. He
2:10:28
also asserted he suffered from special blackout moments, after
2:10:30
which he had no memory. How convenient.
2:10:33
The authorities would discount this claim about a
2:10:35
rival vampire cult. The very next day, Lake
2:10:37
County Sheriff George Nupp said, I put no
2:10:39
stock in it whatsoever. I bet not. January
2:10:42
of 1997, Gibson pleaded guilty but mentally
2:10:45
ill, Sisandra, to a first degree criminal
2:10:47
attempt to commit an unlawful transaction with
2:10:49
a minor, a felony. A
2:10:51
Kentucky judge placed her on probation on
2:10:53
the condition she seek counseling. And yes,
2:10:55
this is her being punished for trying to
2:10:58
fuck Jaden's 14-year-old little brother. Takes
2:11:01
until January 28th, 1997, for Lake County officials
2:11:03
to decide what to do about Heather. They
2:11:05
decide not to press charges. They
2:11:08
decide she's innocent, that she had no prior
2:11:10
knowledge of the murders, robbery, or burglary. Later,
2:11:12
her boyfriend Jeremy will testify on her behalf that she
2:11:14
in no way wanted her parents dead. She loved them
2:11:16
very much. The
2:11:18
only thing she wrote to Rod was just a mix of
2:11:21
teenage angst and fantasy, just talking shit, not
2:11:23
meaning she wanted anything bad to really happen to them. Almost
2:11:26
a month later, February 27th, state attorney Brad
2:11:28
King announces the opposite outcome for Rod. The
2:11:30
prosecution will seek the death penalty. And
2:11:33
in August, the judge will rule that the case against Rod will
2:11:35
begin in February. Presiding
2:11:37
judge Jerry Lockett in
2:11:39
a crucial ruling decides that the jury in Rod's
2:11:41
murder trial will be able to hear his confession.
2:11:44
Jury selection will begin in February, but that'll
2:11:46
pose problems too. Nearly everyone has heard
2:11:48
about this case. One prospective juror
2:11:50
said, you would have had to have been blind
2:11:52
or deaf or have not seen anything. To
2:11:54
not have heard about this. But the lawyers will
2:11:56
agree on a 12 person jury all the same. Also
2:11:59
in early February. In January, defense attorneys argued that Rod should
2:12:01
be allowed a new defense, intoxication,
2:12:03
coupled with mental disorders. Rod
2:12:06
told a defense expert that he drank half a
2:12:08
bottle of alcohol in the late afternoon before the
2:12:11
murders, smoked a lot of marijuana,
2:12:13
consumed eight to ten, it's called
2:12:15
strips here, but pray tabs of LSD, also
2:12:17
took roughly 15 Prozac pills within
2:12:20
an hour of the murders. Vampires,
2:12:22
man, they're just built different. The drugs apparently just
2:12:24
don't hit his heart. Or
2:12:26
he was dropping really shitty acid and smoking bad weed. Maybe
2:12:29
he did do all that, but no one in his coven would attest
2:12:31
to any of that. And since he would not be arrested until days
2:12:34
after the murders, he would not
2:12:36
be tested for toxicology, there's no evidence of
2:12:38
this. Just Rod's word. February
2:12:40
5th, Rod makes it real easy
2:12:42
for prosecutors. Just as
2:12:45
opening statements are about to be read, Rod
2:12:47
pulls an audible, stands up, pleads guilty to
2:12:49
two counts of felony murder, claims that the
2:12:51
others traveling with him were innocent except Scott,
2:12:53
who is simply an accessory. Inside
2:12:56
the courtroom, his mom, Sondra Gibson,
2:12:58
defiantly yells at reporters, we live
2:13:00
forever. You know, because
2:13:02
she and Rod are vampires. They
2:13:04
both still believe that. There was
2:13:06
still a sentencing to go and Rod wanted
2:13:08
to present mitigating factors. The death penalty is
2:13:10
still looming. Rod's attorneys attempt to
2:13:12
argue that he was insane. He'd been
2:13:15
diagnosed with mental disorders, including schizo-typal
2:13:17
personality disorder and Asperger syndrome. Experts
2:13:20
from the University of Florida further attest
2:13:22
that Rod sometimes hallucinated without LSD, that
2:13:25
he witnessed spiritual things such as angels and demons.
2:13:28
Rod himself will make some unsurprisingly pretty
2:13:30
bizarre claims. He'll again attest
2:13:32
that his maternal grandfather molested him, but this time
2:13:34
without the black mask details. Psychologists
2:13:37
said Rod told them he was not only molested by
2:13:39
Harold, but gang-raped by Harold and a bunch of his
2:13:41
friends. And as outlandish
2:13:43
as this may sound, Sondra Gibson's older
2:13:45
sister will testify that her father sexually
2:13:47
abused both her and Sondra. Again,
2:13:50
I'd be shocked if some terrible shit did
2:13:52
not happen to Rod when he was a little kid. The
2:13:55
judge Jerry T. Lockett, not swayed by
2:13:57
this though, he sends Rod to death
2:13:59
February January 27th, 1998,
2:14:01
making him the youngest member on Florida's death
2:14:03
row. And now for the rest. Charity
2:14:06
Casey convicted of two counts of third degree murder,
2:14:09
robbery with a gun or deadly weapon, burglary armed
2:14:11
with a weapon or explosives. The
2:14:13
burglary robbery charges stem from Rod
2:14:15
and Scott breaking into Rick and Ruth Windorf's
2:14:18
home using a crowbar, the weapon
2:14:20
to kill them in order to steal the Explorer
2:14:22
and other items. She sends to 10 and
2:14:24
a half years in state prison. Dana Cooper
2:14:26
convicted on those charges as well, given a 17 and
2:14:29
a half year prison sentence because she was a legal adult at the
2:14:31
time. Scott Anderson pled guilty
2:14:33
to the same charges as Rod and was
2:14:35
sentenced to life in prison. Kentucky
2:14:38
authorities who had convicted Sondra of the charges
2:14:40
she'd received from sending the sexually explicit letters
2:14:42
allowed Sondra to move to Florida to visit
2:14:44
him. But then Florida authorities
2:14:47
nixed that idea citing neighbor opposition. Umatilla
2:14:50
police chief Doug Foster told probation officials he
2:14:52
was not pleased with the idea of having
2:14:54
a sex offender in his community. I
2:14:56
strongly object to allowing this person with her
2:14:59
background and connection and cults in this area.
2:15:01
I have grandchildren and great grandchildren wrote a
2:15:03
woman from Altoona. But then
2:15:05
later she will be back. I watched her
2:15:07
speak on a real stories documentary called Kentucky
2:15:10
Teenage Vampires about how she had moved back to
2:15:12
Florida, got an apartment near the
2:15:14
prison, saw Rod every week and wrote letters
2:15:16
to him every day. Backing
2:15:19
up for two years, Rod held the record as the
2:15:21
youngest inmate on death row in Florida. Then
2:15:23
in November of 2000, the Florida Supreme Court reduced his
2:15:25
sentence to life in prison because he was just 16
2:15:27
when he committed the killings. Charity
2:15:30
Kesey released from prison March of 2006. Dana
2:15:33
Cooper released from prison October of 2011. In
2:15:37
January of 2013, an appellate court dismissed attempts
2:15:39
by both Rod and Scott to get a
2:15:41
new sentencing hearing. However, in
2:15:43
December of 2018, Scott Anderson
2:15:45
was resentenced by Circuit Judge Don Briggs to
2:15:47
40 years in prison. Anderson
2:15:50
was given credit for the 22 years he had
2:15:52
already served and that makes him first
2:15:54
eligible for parole in 2031. attended
2:16:00
Anderson's sentencing hearing, actually, excuse me, eligible
2:16:02
for release in 2031. Sorry,
2:16:05
I misspoke there. Ruth Wendorsch relatives attended Anderson's
2:16:07
resentencing hearing, did not oppose his
2:16:10
early release. They said they were
2:16:12
way more concerned about Rod, who was scheduled for
2:16:14
his own resentencing hearing July of 2019. Rod's
2:16:17
hearing subsequently rescheduled to November
2:16:19
18th, then again to April of 2020. His
2:16:23
resensing was spurred by a US Supreme Court
2:16:25
decision that ruled that juveniles should not automatically
2:16:27
get life without parole sentences, because scientific
2:16:29
research shows that their brains, you know, are still
2:16:31
developing at that age. During
2:16:34
the hearing, Rod once again maintained the claim that his
2:16:36
grandpa, other older men had molested him. Psychologists
2:16:39
had their homes testified during the resentencing hearing
2:16:41
that his mom, Sondra Gibson, confronted
2:16:43
the homeowner where the
2:16:46
rape took place of Rod when she
2:16:48
was young. With five-year-old Rod in
2:16:50
tow, Gibson thought she was taking up for her son,
2:16:52
but it re-traumatized him, Holmes said. Holmes
2:16:55
also claimed Sondra herself had a sex relationship
2:16:57
with her son, but wouldn't
2:16:59
provide exact details. This claim
2:17:01
will be backed up by Rod's new fiancee, who
2:17:03
met Rod in prison by writing him letters, a
2:17:05
woman named Leslie Bullard, who
2:17:07
testified that Sondra's relationship with Farrell
2:17:10
was, quote, beyond romantic. Bullard,
2:17:13
a teacher in Texas, also said she would give Rod a home and
2:17:15
make sure he had a job if he was ever released. Rod
2:17:18
made a tearful apology to the families of Ruth and Rick, said
2:17:20
Heather tricked him into believing she was truly
2:17:22
being sexually abused. And if she
2:17:25
really did that, how fucked. Regardless
2:17:27
of the outcome of this resentencing, please know just
2:17:29
how deeply sorry I am for all the hurt
2:17:31
that I have caused, he said. I'm sorry
2:17:33
for all the pain and your loss. I'm sorry for everything. Yeah,
2:17:36
he's done with being a vampire now. Would
2:17:38
this apology get him a chance at life outside of prison? Circuit
2:17:41
Judge G. Richard Singletary, yes, got
2:17:43
a dick, wrote in his sentencing
2:17:45
memo, it is the
2:17:48
court's responsibility to evaluate whether the
2:17:50
defendant was the juvenile offender whose
2:17:52
crimes reflect unfortunate yet transient immaturity
2:17:54
or the rare juvenile offender whose
2:17:56
crime reflects irreparable corruption. But
2:17:59
after looking at Farrell's history and based on the evidence
2:18:01
presented, the court finds that
2:18:03
he is irreparably corrupt. In
2:18:05
this case, the facts of the double homicide of
2:18:08
Richard and Naomi Ruth Queen, oh yeah, I forgot
2:18:10
who's Richard, as well as the armed burglary and
2:18:12
armed robbery are among the most appalling. These
2:18:14
two victims were peacefully going about their daily lives
2:18:17
when the defendant violated the sanctity of their home.
2:18:19
Rather than restraining them or tying them up as he had
2:18:21
contemplated, he ended their home and beat them to death with
2:18:24
a crowbar. After his arrest
2:18:26
he described these events to law enforcement and
2:18:28
later journalists without any remorse and without any
2:18:30
indication that he was psychologically impacted by having
2:18:33
beaten two human beings to death. The
2:18:35
couple's oldest daughter, Jennifer Wendorff, said
2:18:37
at the resentencing hearing that the pain will never go
2:18:40
away. She begged the judge to keep
2:18:42
Farrell in prison. Her sister Heather,
2:18:44
not at the hearing, guessing she and
2:18:46
Jennifer are not on the best of terms. The
2:18:49
judge noted regarding Jennifer's request, her
2:18:51
plea to the court was based not only on the fact
2:18:54
that the defendant had murdered both of her parents, but
2:18:56
was also founded upon her sincere fear for her own
2:18:58
safety and that of her children. Her
2:19:01
fear is justified not only because of the murder
2:19:03
of her parents, but also considering the following statement
2:19:05
from Rod Farrell, made to the Baton Rouge Police
2:19:07
Department, thought about waiting for
2:19:09
Heather Wendorff, thought about waiting for Heather's sister,
2:19:12
but decided, nah, why bother? Let
2:19:15
her come home, have a mental breakdown, call the
2:19:17
police, which I was correct,
2:19:19
she did. Okay, it's
2:19:21
a cold-blooded motherfucker. Anderson
2:19:23
currently incarcerated in the Calhoun Correctional Institution.
2:19:26
Farrell is in the Northwest Florida reception
2:19:28
center, Annex. He'll turn 44
2:19:30
in a few months, and it looks like he'll never walk
2:19:32
free. Unless, of course, he finally decides to
2:19:34
turn into a bat, you know, inside a web, which he could obviously
2:19:37
do that at any moment. He could also
2:19:39
employ some vampiric mind control, force one of the guards
2:19:41
to unlock him, sire that fucker,
2:19:44
make him a vampire, have him attack
2:19:46
other guards. Rod also will sire. Eventually,
2:19:48
Rod Sago could march out the front
2:19:51
door with an army of vampiric guards,
2:19:54
and of course all the prisoners behind him,
2:19:56
and take over the fucking world. Starting
2:19:58
with Murray Kentucky. She's probably gonna
2:20:00
fuck that town up after stopping by Hardee's, you
2:20:02
know, grabbing a burger for old times. Now
2:20:06
let's end the timeline on a happier note. In 2022,
2:20:08
Janine LeClair, now an artist, had a
2:20:10
showing of her art at the Buckham Gallery in Flint,
2:20:12
Michigan. She apparently attended the
2:20:14
Pennsylvania Academy of Fine Arts after doing a year at
2:20:16
the Savannah College of Art and Design. Couldn't
2:20:19
find any recent mention of Heather Wendorf
2:20:21
online. Seems to be keeping a low profile. Only
2:20:24
mention of her online I can find comes from 2006, decade
2:20:27
after the murders. In the photo, she looks
2:20:29
happy, healthy, blonde hair pulled back into two
2:20:31
pigtails, thin, pretty, wearing a black
2:20:33
Andy Warhol graphic tee with a Warhol sketch
2:20:35
of a banana on it. Sexy.
2:20:38
Oh, she's standing to, you
2:20:40
know, next to three black and white sketches that
2:20:42
she did of seemingly random shapes. There's
2:20:44
a small caption that just
2:20:46
says, Heather Wendorf Kelly with
2:20:49
selections of her artwork series titled, Resistant Figures at
2:20:51
her home in North Carolina, Friday, December 15, 2006.
2:20:53
So also an artist. Seems
2:20:57
that she has gotten married and based on
2:20:59
comments from some people in some chat rooms,
2:21:01
still lives in North Carolina. Hope
2:21:04
she truly never wanted anyone to kill her parents. Hope she's
2:21:06
happy. Hope she never wants to be a vampire again. And
2:21:08
now let's hop out of this timeline. Good
2:21:13
job, soldier. You've made it back.
2:21:16
There. Before
2:21:23
I share a few of my final thoughts, Suckverse
2:21:26
Crimestopper, Sonny Hollister, would
2:21:29
like to share his thoughts. Detective
2:21:34
Sonny Hollister here, me ex. Cheesecake
2:21:37
Factory Store Detective. What
2:21:39
a case today. Vampires. Wish
2:21:42
the Murray PD would have consulted me about
2:21:44
Rod. I would have stopped him long before
2:21:46
he ever left for Florida. Believe
2:21:48
it or not, I've dealt with
2:21:51
vampires myself over the years. Once
2:21:54
I had to take on an entire cup when
2:21:56
I worked the factory at the Lakeside Shopping Center
2:21:58
just outside of New Orleans. Their
2:22:01
leader, Todd, managed the
2:22:03
hot topic there, and several
2:22:05
of the vampires he sired worked for him. A
2:22:08
few others worked at Buckle. At
2:22:10
least one worked at Zumie's. Another
2:22:13
at Charlie's Philly Steaks or maybe Auntie Anne's. The
2:22:16
whole food court was infested with goth
2:22:18
vampires. And
2:22:20
they thought that six or more of them
2:22:22
could come in together, one of them
2:22:24
could order a side of fries, and
2:22:26
then all of them could indulge in our unlimited free
2:22:28
brown bread. Those blood suckers were
2:22:30
trying to bleed a fry. Technically,
2:22:34
they had found a loophole, and I couldn't bust them.
2:22:37
They weren't doing anything illegal, but
2:22:39
I could make them want to never come in again. I
2:22:43
hired a guy I've only ever known as
2:22:45
Sleepy Greg from Houston, I believe. Twerk
2:22:48
is their waiter, also not
2:22:50
illegal to give terrible service. I
2:22:52
would have Greg deliver them one basket of bread and
2:22:54
then go sit at the bar and quickly fall into
2:22:56
a deep slumber. When
2:22:59
Todd decided to fight back by creeping out
2:23:01
all the paying customers around him by talking
2:23:03
about how he had invited demons to join
2:23:05
their table, I
2:23:07
called up an old son divine who knows a real demon,
2:23:10
Charles Gutman, and he sent
2:23:12
me Woody, a possessed puppet who
2:23:14
demanded to be paid in voxel. And
2:23:17
I put that paranormal puppet on the wall right
2:23:19
next to their table. Oh,
2:23:22
Vampargas, me, Woody! Gosh,
2:23:24
you dorks are spooky! Why
2:23:26
you scared little me? Oh, God, Todd, it's like
2:23:28
you're peeping your little vampire boy pants! Why's
2:23:31
your coven so scared of me? Whee!
2:23:36
Just like that. Bang, bang, chicken and
2:23:38
shrimp, the vampires were gone. Same
2:23:41
technique could have been used with Rod and his coven. They
2:23:44
thought they were scary, so the Murray PD
2:23:46
should have outscared them. Send
2:23:49
in some undercover officers pretending to be werewolf.
2:23:52
Kidnap them. Throw them in a van, beat
2:23:54
the tar out of them, tie them up in
2:23:56
burlax sacks. Hang in from some tree branches.
2:23:59
Tell them if they don't leave town. They'll be eating alive. Then
2:24:01
leave them there, thinking that
2:24:03
they're going to die. Easier
2:24:06
than selling cheesecake at the Cheesecake Factory. Until
2:24:09
next time, you keep listening to True Crime,
2:24:12
and I'll keep stopping it. Stay
2:24:14
sunny, everyone. Huh,
2:24:17
pretty sure that Sonny's advice was very illegal. Oh
2:24:20
well, it was nice to hear from Woody. He
2:24:22
has been pissed behind the scenes since he
2:24:24
was completely forgotten about and the exorcism sucked.
2:24:28
Rod Farrell and the Florida Vampire murders, my
2:24:30
thoughts now, weird episode.
2:24:33
I don't know if the truth
2:24:35
is actually stranger than fiction, I can make up a lot of really
2:24:37
weird shit in my head, but this truth, definitely
2:24:39
stranger than a lot if not most fiction. In
2:24:42
this story, Rod seems to have gotten really
2:24:44
lost in fiction. So did some
2:24:47
other kids, but no one more than him. What
2:24:49
a terrible combination of very likely familial sexual
2:24:52
abuse in early childhood, coupled with a very
2:24:54
unstable home life, no consistent
2:24:56
supervision and boundary setting by any stable
2:24:58
adults, mental illness, tons of drug use
2:25:01
with a still developing mind, early
2:25:03
exposure to fantasy RPG games that he
2:25:05
was allowed to play seemingly endlessly with
2:25:07
no guidance, games that provided Rod
2:25:09
with a fantasy life so much better than his own,
2:25:12
and you know, combining the game with the use of
2:25:14
a ton of heavy psychedelics, I can
2:25:16
see how those games started to feel way too real. Then
2:25:19
Rod finds a crew of other kids, almost like the
2:25:21
family he never had, who also loved
2:25:24
vampires, who got really into vampire
2:25:26
the masquerade, playing throughout the night,
2:25:28
taking it very seriously, and it
2:25:30
was all just too immersive for
2:25:32
Rod, and he got lost. And
2:25:34
then he pulled others into his dark fantasy, and
2:25:37
it ended in a very senseless, you know, set
2:25:39
of double murders, or double murder.
2:25:41
Like, why did he kill Heather's parents? He could have
2:25:43
easily fled to New Orleans without doing that, so unnecessary.
2:25:45
Did he really think they had sexually abused Heather, or
2:25:47
did he just want to give a little taste of
2:25:49
his power, you know, in real life, to
2:25:51
give in to the beast? Did he
2:25:53
really truly to his core think he was a vampire?
2:25:56
Or did he just relish the control over people pretending to think
2:25:59
that game was a vampire? him. You
2:26:01
know, people who thought that about
2:26:03
him. And if he would have gotten away with those
2:26:05
murders, what else would he have done? How
2:26:08
many others would Visago have killed? I'm guessing many,
2:26:10
many more. I'm guessing he would have
2:26:12
just kept killing and killing until eventually he was caught. Thankfully,
2:26:15
he only lasted four days on the run. Thankfully,
2:26:17
not eligible for parole. If it was my choice,
2:26:20
he would never ever get out. Not
2:26:22
worth the risk. Let's keep Rod Sago behind
2:26:24
bars and maybe drive a
2:26:26
wooden stake through his heart after he finally dies
2:26:28
just to make sure he stays
2:26:30
dead. Let's now
2:26:32
head to
2:26:35
the takeaways.
2:26:37
Number
2:26:39
one, Rod Farrell and Scott Anderson, but
2:26:42
really just Rod, murdered Ruth and Rick Wendorf on the
2:26:44
night of November 25th, 1996. Rod butchered them with a
2:26:48
crowbar while Scott stood by terrified.
2:26:51
Two, Rod told other kids he
2:26:53
was a vampire named Visago, 500
2:26:56
something year old eternal being who'd been born in France
2:26:58
and then went into a state of dormancy or maybe
2:27:00
lived in New Orleans for a long time. It's hard
2:27:02
to say his story kept changing. Number
2:27:05
three, when we look at what Rod, you
2:27:07
know, became what made him, I think his
2:27:09
mom, Sandra had the most influence. She
2:27:12
introduced him to the occult at an early age, to
2:27:14
hard drugs, possibly, if not almost
2:27:16
certainly molested him, also seemed to
2:27:18
thrive off her son's attention and the attention she got
2:27:20
from being in his coven, as though
2:27:23
she were his girlfriend rather than his mom. She
2:27:25
would be put on probation for sending horrifyingly
2:27:27
sexual letters to a 14 year old boy.
2:27:30
And even after Scott pled guilty to a
2:27:32
double murder, she screamed outside the courthouse, we
2:27:34
live forever. Also,
2:27:37
fuck his dad Rick for abandoning him. Number
2:27:39
four, in February of 1998, Rod
2:27:41
was sentenced to death, although the term was later reduced to life
2:27:43
in prison. For two years, he was the
2:27:46
youngest person on death row. Now
2:27:48
he's not anything. Just a 40 something
2:27:50
man who pissed away his life as a teen for getting way
2:27:52
into thinking he was a vampire. And
2:27:54
number five new info, Rod
2:27:56
Farrell, not the only teenager who got so into vampires,
2:27:58
he ended up becoming a murder. murderer. On
2:28:01
November 25, 2001, a Meals
2:28:03
on Wheels volunteer visited the home of
2:28:05
a woman in Wales with
2:28:08
the hardest, living in a town
2:28:10
with the hardest pronounced name in the fucking world.
2:28:12
It's 60 letters long. Listen to
2:28:14
this local newscaster say this. Just
2:28:16
the right from stand by the first wing is to go
2:28:18
get a quandroble, stand to say go go go. That
2:28:21
literally is the name of the town. Anyway,
2:28:24
fuck whoever decides to name that town that name. In that place,
2:28:26
November 25, 2001,
2:28:36
the dead body of 90-year-old widow Mabel
2:28:38
Leachon was found. 17-year-old Matthew Hardman
2:28:40
broke into her home through a
2:28:42
lower window in her back door.
2:28:45
She didn't hear him enter because she had the TV on
2:28:47
max volume because she was hard of hearing. Matthew
2:28:50
snuck up on her. She was sitting in her favorite chair
2:28:52
watching one of her shows and he stabbed
2:28:54
her 22 times with a kitchen knife he brought from
2:28:56
home and would take back home like an idiot.
2:28:59
DNA from that knife in his house would seal his
2:29:01
conviction. After killing her, he moved her body
2:29:03
to another chair, placed two pokers in the shape of a cross
2:29:05
at her feet. He then cut out her
2:29:07
heart, pulled it in a saucepan wrapped in
2:29:09
a newspaper, placed the saucepan on
2:29:12
a silver platter in some kind of macabre vampiric
2:29:14
ritual he'd come up with, then
2:29:16
drained blood from Mrs. Leachon's leg into
2:29:18
the same saucepan and drank from it.
2:29:21
Matthew, who was familiar with Mrs. Leachon, he had been
2:29:24
her paper boy for a few years, was obsessed with
2:29:26
vampires, thought he could become one if
2:29:28
he just performed the right ritual. Two months
2:29:30
before that murder, he had begged a German exchange
2:29:32
student to bite him on the neck because
2:29:34
he thought she was a real vampire and could
2:29:37
transform him. He was sentenced to life but
2:29:39
with a possibility to parole after just a dozen years. His
2:29:42
first attempts to parole were rejected but he has another parole
2:29:44
hearing coming up August of 2023. He could have
2:29:54
been released in between recording this episode and you hearing
2:29:56
it. I hope not. When you
2:29:58
do something that fucked up. Even if you do it
2:30:01
when you're 17. Can you ever
2:30:03
really be rehabilitated? I fucking
2:30:05
doubt it. Time sucks. Top
2:30:08
5 takeaways.
2:30:12
The Florida Vampire Murders have been
2:30:15
sucked. Ha ha ha.
2:30:18
Thank you to the Bad Magic Productions team for all
2:30:20
the help of making Time Suck, such as Queen of
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Bad Magic, Lindsay Cummins, running operations around here, Art
2:30:25
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2:30:27
merch, Sophie Evans providing initial
2:30:29
research. Also thanks to the All
2:30:31
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2:30:33
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2:30:36
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2:30:41
And now let's head on over to
2:30:43
this week's Time Sucker updates. Ohhhh,
2:30:46
updates? Get
2:30:49
your Time Sucker updates. Today's
2:30:53
first message comes from Marvelous Meat
2:30:55
Sack Mind, OG sucker Morgan McCaw.
2:30:58
I've met Morgan, and I wonder what his IQ
2:31:00
is. Pretty confident it's double digits more
2:31:02
than mine. He writes in with a
2:31:04
subject line of fourth dimension experiment lacks the control. Hi
2:31:06
Dan. I am
2:31:09
listening to the fourth dimension episode, and you're talking about
2:31:11
the experiment that What's His Name did with recording his
2:31:13
dreams, and looking for similarities in the following days. The
2:31:16
problem with his experiment is that it lacks a
2:31:18
control to compare to. He also claims
2:31:20
to use statistics, but I'm not sure how you could
2:31:22
use statistics without a control. How
2:31:25
would you even enumerate how many chances there
2:31:27
were for an event to happen and a
2:31:29
baseline for random happenstance? Not smart. You
2:31:32
told listeners that they could try the experiment themselves.
2:31:34
I would suggest anyone trying it to
2:31:36
add a control, to see if these
2:31:38
results are explainable by coincidence, and What's
2:31:40
His Name and others are noticing patterns, and if What's His
2:31:42
Name and others are noticing patterns that aren't really there. Morgan
2:31:45
is referring here to John William Dunn's
2:31:48
dream journaling. Right when you wake up,
2:31:50
you write down as many details from your dream as you can
2:31:52
remember. You don't care about what you felt
2:31:54
about the dream, just what you saw. Who? What were
2:31:56
they wearing? What were they doing? Where were they? Where
2:31:58
were you? What painting was hanging on the
2:32:01
wall of the room you were in? That sort of thing. And
2:32:03
then that evening you look down through what you wrote
2:32:05
that morning and also the morning before to see
2:32:08
if out in the world you saw anything you just
2:32:10
dreamt about. Did you see the future of it
2:32:12
in your dream? Morgan continues, for
2:32:15
the control I would write down an equally
2:32:17
long list of things that seem equally random,
2:32:19
a similar level of ridiculousness. When
2:32:21
looking back at your notes, see if you can draw
2:32:23
parallels to the randomly picked events. Now,
2:32:26
this isn't going to be perfect because the person is going
2:32:28
to have a personal connection with the dream memories they may
2:32:30
not necessarily have with the random ones they made up. So
2:32:33
maybe they could try to picture this thing they are making up
2:32:35
happening and extra details about it to match
2:32:37
the dreams. Again, still not perfect, but
2:32:39
better than nothing. It's also good
2:32:41
to go into this experiment with the realization that
2:32:43
animal brains, especially humans, are very good at finding
2:32:46
patterns, even when they don't exist. B.F.
2:32:49
Skinner's pigeons are a great example of
2:32:52
this, Morgan. Morgan regarding we meat sacks being programmed to
2:32:54
find patterns and things included a link to apophenia
2:32:58
per Merriam Webster
2:33:00
dictionary. Apophenia is
2:33:02
defined as the tendency to perceive a
2:33:05
connection or meaningful pattern between unrelated or
2:33:07
random things, such as objects or ideas.
2:33:10
The example given is what psychologists call
2:33:12
apophenia, the human tendency to see connections
2:33:14
and patterns that are not really there,
2:33:16
gives rise to conspiracy theories. Damn
2:33:19
it, Morgan. Yeah, that may be
2:33:21
all that this dream interpretation is. It's
2:33:24
us finding patterns that aren't really there. I
2:33:26
do appreciate you always working to keep me grounded. Well,
2:33:29
I don't always read your messages on the show. I do always read them, by
2:33:31
the way. So why do we see patterns that
2:33:33
aren't there? One of the explanations
2:33:35
put forth by evolutionary psychologists for apophenia
2:33:38
is that it is not a flaw in the cognition of
2:33:40
human brains, but rather something that has come about through years
2:33:42
of need or just evolution. The
2:33:45
study of this topic is referred to as error management
2:33:47
theory. Error management theory, too much to
2:33:49
get into here. The quick example of how
2:33:51
it may affect us is men seeing
2:33:53
flirtation from women that does not exist, but
2:33:56
a perception that it existed led to
2:33:58
the men flirting with women. with the women, then
2:34:01
in a fair amount of cases, this
2:34:03
leads to relationships, leads to sex,
2:34:06
to the genes passing on and the behavior is rewarded.
2:34:10
Beneficial seeing signs that were not there,
2:34:12
beneficial, hail Lucifina and so we doubled
2:34:15
down over the generations on that type of
2:34:17
thinking. Finally, the pigeon experiment
2:34:19
Morgan refers to is called Skinner's box. This
2:34:22
experiment involves taking a hungry pigeon, placing it in
2:34:25
a box and releasing food
2:34:27
pellets at totally random times. But
2:34:29
the pigeon receives the food pellet while the pigeon
2:34:31
is doing something and rather than
2:34:33
attributing the arrival of the pellet to randomness, the pigeon attributed
2:34:35
to what they were doing when the pellet showed up. Then
2:34:38
they repeat that action and continue to do so
2:34:40
until another pellet falls. As the
2:34:42
pigeon increases the number of times it performs the
2:34:44
action, it gains the impression that it also has
2:34:46
increased the times it was rewarded with the pellet,
2:34:49
although the release the whole time was entirely
2:34:51
random. Very
2:34:53
interesting. I get it Morgan. But
2:34:56
I am still holding out hope that we can see the future
2:34:58
in our dreams because it's cool
2:35:00
and I enjoy employing magical thinking from
2:35:03
time to time just because I like to walk through
2:35:05
the world with a sense of at least some childlike
2:35:07
wonder. Our
2:35:09
next message inspired by the history of exorcism
2:35:11
sucks. Midwest meat sack, Big
2:35:13
G. Blenstein or Stein, Blenstein
2:35:17
writes in with a subject line of my dad saw dead
2:35:19
people. Okay, Big G. I'm listening.
2:35:22
Here is Dan the person with the podcast. As always
2:35:24
a mediocre effort on this week's podcast, 3 out of 5 stars. This
2:35:28
one is really long but true. My father
2:35:30
Gary who bore a strikey resemblance to Captain
2:35:32
Kangaroo. He did. The
2:35:34
picture you included? Yeah, he did.
2:35:37
Had repeated interactions with spiritual incarnations. Started
2:35:39
when we moved to Hinsdale just outside of Chicago in 1974. He
2:35:43
loved old houses and this house fit the bill. It
2:35:45
was on the sole remaining brick street on top of a
2:35:47
hill. The three and a half stories looked menacing
2:35:49
to my six year old self. The
2:35:52
basement had strange boarded up rooms off
2:35:54
of cobweb filled rooms that have been sealed until my dad
2:35:56
knocked them down. The third floor had
2:35:58
doors off of the playroom for stories. The house scared
2:36:00
the shit out of me before I knew the word shit
2:36:03
existed. My dad woke at about 3
2:36:05
a.m. one night to take a piss. It was a crisp
2:36:07
fall night in 1975. He
2:36:09
woke to the sound of a mother and two
2:36:11
kids walking outside on the sidewalk. He
2:36:13
went to the window, clearly heard the mother's voice
2:36:15
talking with her children about their melting ice cream
2:36:17
cones, followed the trailers of
2:36:20
voices up the block, the children's feet rustling
2:36:22
in the dry leaves, kept hearing them, but
2:36:24
no one was there. He wasn't sure
2:36:27
he was even awake until he turned to go to the washroom in the
2:36:29
hall, and back in the house. When he entered
2:36:31
the hallway, the temperature seemed to drop to near freezing, and
2:36:33
each of the four bedroom doors slammed
2:36:36
shut simultaneously. There was
2:36:38
no further overt contact, but my
2:36:40
three-year-old sister had frequent night terrors over the next
2:36:42
two years. At one point, we had to
2:36:44
tie her to the bed so my mom and dad could rush in and
2:36:46
comfort her before she ran out of the house. When
2:36:49
we moved in, her room was wallpaper with bright
2:36:51
pink flowers on the walls and floor, a
2:36:54
clear attempt to hide something, even in 1974. My
2:36:57
mother decided to strip the paper from the floor to
2:36:59
refinish the wood. What she unveiled horrified
2:37:01
her. Exactly underneath my
2:37:04
sister's bed were two parallel, deeply
2:37:06
worn groups. My grandfather, a
2:37:08
carpenter, told my mom in the patch attempt had to
2:37:10
be more than 30, 40 years old because
2:37:12
it was just sawdust and horse glue. As
2:37:15
I was attending the Catholic school, my parents
2:37:17
invited a priest to come over. After doing research on the
2:37:19
house in the neighborhood, he unveiled the troubled history of the
2:37:22
house. Our house
2:37:24
was built in the mid-1800s and remained the sole house
2:37:26
on that hill until the mid-1930s. It
2:37:29
served for decades as the township's mental
2:37:31
asylum. The grooves on the floor
2:37:33
were from patients tied to the bed for years, rocking
2:37:35
back and forth. After the
2:37:37
house was diagnosed with my dad tried in vain to contact
2:37:39
the spirits. All activities stopped after the
2:37:42
priest's visit. My sister moved into a room with my
2:37:44
little brother. Her room was padlocked. I
2:37:46
remember every time I walked past that door, I ran
2:37:48
against the opposite wall with my tiny butthole sucked into
2:37:50
my lower back. I transferred
2:37:52
to a school to cross town. We put the house
2:37:54
on the market. Two consecutive renters left the
2:37:56
house inside of 30 days of moving in. It
2:37:58
took us three years. and my dad's
2:38:00
entire inheritance to sell it. We
2:38:03
moved to a house in the dunes of Southwestern Michigan in 1983
2:38:06
when another house went on the market just outside of town. My
2:38:08
dad jumped on it. He only told us
2:38:10
that a woman had recently hung herself in the
2:38:12
barn after we moved in, my God. A
2:38:15
nice new horrifying experience for my little sisters
2:38:17
were the bedroom closets each room
2:38:20
had were the
2:38:22
bedroom closets. Each had a
2:38:24
door for storage under the eaves, more tightening
2:38:26
of crinkle holes. My
2:38:28
dad frequently sat out in the barn drinking Olympia beer
2:38:30
with our dog Ollie and his goat Horny hoping to
2:38:33
make contact with dead spirits or with, you know, undead
2:38:35
spirits. To his lifelong
2:38:37
dismay, he never experienced any spirits.
2:38:39
Again, at least that
2:38:41
woman, sorry, to his lifelong, my God, to his
2:38:43
lifelong dismay, he never experienced the woman's spirit, the
2:38:46
woman who died in the home. We
2:38:48
just celebrated 10 years since his passing. We spread
2:38:50
his ashes off the town's beach in Lake Michigan.
2:38:52
My mother has since passed, but she will not
2:38:54
be interned in the same lake in Turd. My
2:38:57
father has always said it was death do us part.
2:38:59
They're both dead. Therefore, his wish is to be a
2:39:01
parent. All right, it is
2:39:04
my wish that this benevolent man find some spirits
2:39:06
in the storied lake where he rests, befriending the
2:39:08
thousands of sailors and unfortunate souls. When I die,
2:39:10
I too will be cremated. Alas, since
2:39:12
I'm a workaholic, I'll be placed in an hourglass so
2:39:14
I can keep working. Yes, this was
2:39:16
really long. If you read it, please dedicate it to
2:39:18
my wonderful father, Gary. Thanks, Big G. Well,
2:39:21
Big G, dedicated it is. Your dad sounds like he was
2:39:23
quite a character in the best of ways. I
2:39:26
love that he sought out a house where
2:39:30
someone had died tragically. Just
2:39:32
wanted to talk to spirits, hanging out in
2:39:34
the barn, drinking pilsners with a goat named
2:39:36
Horny, trying to contact a dead
2:39:38
woman. How are
2:39:40
the psychedelics with your dad? I'm pretty
2:39:42
funny about being married to his wife until death, but then wanting
2:39:45
nothing to do with her in the afterlife. And
2:39:47
I love the concept of ashes in an hourglass. Never
2:39:50
heard of that one. Thank you for the
2:39:52
ghost story. And now our third update, just cracked me
2:39:54
up. Comes in from Smart
2:39:56
Sack, Caroline Vogel, who's married to a
2:39:58
complete fucking idiot. She
2:40:00
sends in a subject line of,
2:40:02
you're making my husband stupid her. Dan
2:40:05
you wily bastard, she writes. Apparently
2:40:07
not sorry for the length of this email. If you don't like it,
2:40:09
kick rocks. I've been a long time
2:40:11
listening to Timesuck and as much as I try, I
2:40:13
cannot get my illegal husband Sean, not legally
2:40:15
married, but basically married, to listen to Timesuck.
2:40:18
He claims that you make him feel like chatting
2:40:20
because you get his mind working and because I
2:40:22
refuse to submit and won't let him pause the
2:40:24
episode to chat. JK, I
2:40:26
can't have him interrupt an episode and risking getting comments live.
2:40:29
I managed to get him to sit through parts of an
2:40:32
episode here and there and one of your gags came back
2:40:34
to get him nearly three years later. I love it so
2:40:36
much. We were driving last night
2:40:38
and I was telling him about the woman who has
2:40:40
gone viral on TikTok for making cinnamon rolls with yeast
2:40:42
from her yeast infection. Yuck. Mm-hmm.
2:40:45
I checked it out because you mentioned it. I said the
2:40:47
internet was praying it was fake, but she ended up getting
2:40:49
oral thrush from eating them. Sean
2:40:51
so casually goes, did you know that female
2:40:53
prisoners make prison wine with their yeast infections?
2:40:56
I dare take my eyes off the road to turn and look at him head
2:40:58
on. See if he was messing with me. He
2:41:00
misread my disbelief and continued. Yeah, I mean,
2:41:02
that's why it's called hooch, right? Hooch
2:41:05
like cooch. I was cackling.
2:41:08
I asked him if he knew where he heard that because he
2:41:10
likes to brew beer at home. So I was giving him the opportunity
2:41:12
to save himself by really thinking about what he was saying. Again,
2:41:15
he misreads and doubles down by saying, I didn't
2:41:17
make up the cooch thing. I didn't do that. As
2:41:19
if that was a problem. I told him
2:41:21
he was repeating some bullshit you had spread during
2:41:23
one of the prison episodes early in time suck.
2:41:26
He was so upset. He said
2:41:28
that it sounded rational because you need yeast because
2:41:30
XYZ and it's not his fault. You misled him.
2:41:33
I just kept laughing. He's a very good
2:41:35
sport. Encourage me to write it and tell the story. If you read
2:41:37
this on the show, please give a shout out to Sean. He's
2:41:40
always been an amazing source of both steadfast
2:41:42
support and reckless joy. He's
2:41:44
an amazing dog dad to our two big boys. But
2:41:47
his shortcoming is that he cannot get a single one of us
2:41:49
to submit. Thank you and the
2:41:51
crew for so much that you do moving across the
2:41:53
country. This past year was lonely, but lifting to your
2:41:55
episodes and the time sucker updates gave me a great
2:41:57
anchor while we figured it all out. All
2:41:59
the love. Caroline. Caroline,
2:42:02
yeah, thank you for the message. It really made me smile. Glad
2:42:05
I caught Sean. You're
2:42:09
a weak fellow shitty patriarch. I get
2:42:11
it, Sean. I can't get
2:42:13
my daughter, wife, or either female dog of ours to
2:42:15
submit. Actually, Lindsay was just teasing me the other
2:42:17
day, telling me that the dogs don't respect
2:42:19
me. And she might be right. I
2:42:22
just don't like to get after those dumb little babies too much.
2:42:24
A cooch wine, my God. I wonder
2:42:26
if anyone has ever made that. Also disturbing about
2:42:28
the cinnamon rolls, I can't tell if it's a hoax or
2:42:30
not. I hope so. I
2:42:33
also hope you keep enjoying this nonsense. And now one
2:42:35
more, very fascinating from
2:42:38
exorcism expert Jacob Harrison. Jacob
2:42:41
wrote in with a subject line of new a
2:42:43
priest who assisted in exorcisms. Jacob
2:42:46
writes, dear Stan, the bad magic man, emperor of dark
2:42:48
history on high and all around cool dude. Well,
2:42:51
thank you. I was so excited to hear this week's episode
2:42:53
of Time Suck because I have very interesting knowledge on the
2:42:55
rights of exorcisms. I went
2:42:57
to a private Catholic high school in Southern California,
2:42:59
and one of my teachers was a priest who
2:43:01
used to assist personally in exorcisms. One
2:43:04
Friday a month during school would be dedicated to
2:43:06
a free hour long period. He called exorcism Fridays.
2:43:08
I love it. Where we threw our
2:43:11
classwork out the window and got to ask any and all
2:43:13
questions our 14 and 50 year old
2:43:15
brains could possibly think about regarding exorcisms,
2:43:17
demonology, or the occult in general. Like
2:43:20
you said in the episode, curses and witches are still
2:43:22
recognized as beings in the church. And
2:43:24
upon hearing that one of my classmates asked, wait, if
2:43:27
which is a real, does that mean that werewolves
2:43:29
and vampires are real to cue
2:43:31
big laughs from everyone, including the priest teacher.
2:43:34
Now I'm going to share some fun and interesting facts taught
2:43:36
by the church about exorcisms. Share them on the pot or
2:43:39
not, but I figured they should go with your knowledge bank
2:43:41
as well since as
2:43:43
since or because you run a couple of scary
2:43:45
podcasts as well. All of the
2:43:47
following was taught to us by father Darren, father D we
2:43:49
called him, and I'm in no way claiming that this is
2:43:51
real or true. Just that he claimed
2:43:53
to have a lot of firsthand experience with this one.
2:43:57
The reason demons have knowledge of past sins that
2:43:59
you or the. that exorcists priests have committed
2:44:01
is because they can communicate with each other
2:44:03
almost immediately and across vast distances. If
2:44:06
one Mephistopheles saw you cranking
2:44:08
it a couple of years ago and
2:44:10
Baphomet possesses you, Mephistopheles can say, hey,
2:44:13
I saw this guy cranking it. Use
2:44:15
it to scare him. Telepathically,
2:44:17
of course. And tell they can
2:44:19
weaponize past actions against their targets. Two
2:44:22
only appointed people can exorcise a demon and they
2:44:24
know that. You got it exactly right in
2:44:26
the pot. A demon will know if you do
2:44:28
or don't have the required credentials to expel him. Father
2:44:31
D was once asked to take over the prayers while
2:44:33
the exorcist priests had to leave for an emergency. The
2:44:35
second Father D started saying the prayers.
2:44:37
The possessed person started saying, you don't
2:44:40
have permission. And laughing at Father D.
2:44:42
To properly exorcise a demon, you need to find out their true names
2:44:45
and they have no obligation to tell you their true
2:44:47
names if you're not qualified. Three,
2:44:50
the church actually very rarely recognizes possessions
2:44:52
and requires that the patient undergo severe
2:44:54
psychiatric treatment before declaring a proper exorcism
2:44:57
be performed. A very
2:44:59
few important observations need to be documented
2:45:01
before proceeding. The subject must
2:45:03
speak in a language that they are not
2:45:05
familiar with any capacity. If a
2:45:07
13-year-old boy from South Carolina starts speaking Greek,
2:45:09
oh boy, the body of the
2:45:11
subject must have some type of unexplained injury to
2:45:14
it, such as scratches. Bonus
2:45:16
points of words are written. This has
2:45:18
been photographically documented multiple times. The
2:45:20
subject must have objects move in
2:45:22
a poltergeist fashion without outside influence.
2:45:24
This includes the subject. They
2:45:26
may levitate themselves on rare occasions. Big bonus
2:45:29
points for that. The subject must talk
2:45:31
about a secret that only someone in the room would know. Finding
2:45:34
the subject must make sounds that cannot be explained as being
2:45:36
human. Exorcism priests do conduct interviews
2:45:38
to try and get these events to happen. They
2:45:41
all need to happen, be caught on camera or
2:45:43
documented by multiple eyewitnesses sent to the Vatican for
2:45:45
review along with medical documents, then approved and verified
2:45:47
before the church will give the green light. And
2:45:50
then finally, for a contrary to popular belief, demons usually
2:45:52
don't want to kill their subjects, just violently abuse them.
2:45:55
That means that anything involving what could kill a person is a
2:45:58
myth and hasn't been witnessed. Don't
2:46:00
be around back, don't break resorts, lead, etc
2:46:02
because the demon would just kill them and
2:46:04
and lose their power. Anyway,
2:46:07
Sorry, not sorry for the length of the
2:46:09
email. Three to five stars. Also catch phrases:
2:46:11
I'll be found All this information really interesting
2:46:13
father. he would be thrilled if you knew
2:46:15
was passed long as simple Thanks the amazing
2:46:17
show keep doing what you do And Jake
2:46:20
H. Milwaukee call to the curious plebe Ian.
2:46:23
Begley. Jr. Yeah, love learn a lot
2:46:25
like that. A little formalized at all.
2:46:27
It's. I mean is any this real
2:46:29
though or at this point my life. Ah,
2:46:32
I think it is at least some
2:46:34
of it legacy and scared to death.
2:46:36
It only takes one instance of save
2:46:38
demonic possession. To. Be real with one
2:46:40
inches in history to make it a real
2:46:42
possibility and thus make the world war magical.
2:46:44
Make as we have, I wait much of
2:46:46
what we currently think we know. It's.
2:46:54
We all did. Thank.
2:46:58
You plus into another bad Magic Prices
2:47:00
podcast. Scared to death time so to
2:47:02
each week sort sucks nightmare fuel on
2:47:04
the time such as good as his
2:47:06
podcast speeds. Some weeks on Fridays has
2:47:08
been working out. Please remember this we
2:47:10
got. You know better. I promise
2:47:13
you that. Does. I cannot Werewolf. Or
2:47:15
Frankenstein for Jfk Brothers? Or don't
2:47:18
suck anyone's blood to stay here.
2:47:20
And as use your ear thanks. To keep
2:47:23
on sucking. Sit.
2:47:38
As me don't vote counts I know,
2:47:40
I know, I'm not sell them right
2:47:42
now. The other the idea of putting
2:47:45
facilities is is to be viewed to
2:47:47
such a dehumanizing then reduction or relenza
2:47:49
Whatever one thinks all you could lose,
2:47:51
don't. I am so
2:47:53
much more little kindergarteners. Casillas
2:47:56
via Dreams desires needs I
2:47:58
could not resist. but
2:48:00
a beautiful woman's gentle touch. I
2:48:02
love to play midnight frisbee golf. Did
2:48:05
you know that? I'm very good at it. I
2:48:08
enjoy a nice bottle of scotch. I love
2:48:10
Costa Rica. So warm at night. I
2:48:12
enjoy a nice walk on the beach. And
2:48:15
sometimes, yes, I kill people, okay?
2:48:18
I need human blood. I
2:48:20
do not ask to be made this way. No
2:48:22
one is mad at the hawk for eating a snake.
2:48:24
That is just what hawks must do. And
2:48:27
I do what I must do. But no
2:48:29
one wants to hear about that. They just want
2:48:31
the counting. One, go fuck
2:48:33
yourself. Ah, ah, ah. Two, of
2:48:35
my fists up your ass. Ah,
2:48:38
ah, ah. Three, times
2:48:40
I kicked your pussy. Ah,
2:48:42
ah, ah. Four, times
2:48:44
I punched your dick. Ah, ah,
2:48:46
ah. Now go listen
2:48:48
to another podcast episode. This should have
2:48:50
ended probably 15, 30 minutes ago.
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