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1:12

On

1:12

today's episode of Titusontate, Alabama

1:14

beat the number one team in the country again

1:17

Again. Two number one wins.

1:19

Yes. For the Crimson Tide and

1:21

we are going to talk about that. But have they beat the

1:23

best team in the country? Another

1:26

great question. I don't know.

1:29

You you're very high on this Alabama team. I

1:31

said not so fast. III

1:33

unfortunately watched the North Carolina game.

1:36

The and did the North Carolina game. And I was like,

1:38

yes. 1, but at the same time, I would

1:40

not classify that. Basket. Yeah. Did anybody

1:42

actually win? But Alabama, big

1:45

time statement. There I say a program win for

1:47

the Crimson Tide. Now ranked fourth, I believe, in

1:49

the the new a. People. Above Houston.

1:51

That's right. Speaking of the new a p poll and

1:53

speaking of Houston and going to the moon and

1:56

Houston I don't know. Terrible

1:58

segue. The new number one in your AP pool

2:00

is once again the producer of the makers. Oh my

2:03

goodness. It happened. We

2:05

reached out to coach Titus for comment his

2:08

direct response was, can't make it today. I'm

2:10

not kidding. That's what he said. No. He

2:13

did he did actually say that. You can't. I he

2:15

he has a dentist. We'll talk about it. We'll talk

2:17

we'll talk about it. But unfortunately, my father is not

2:19

on the show today. I wish. As

2:22

as most friends of the program,

2:25

Most of the friends have

2:27

programmed the moment they see their produce ring number one. They

2:29

think of one man. It is my father, and they say

2:31

how to hear my coach. How's he built about this? I

2:33

have an official statement. He's sending his official

2:35

statement, so I will will read his thoughts

2:38

to everybody about that. Arizona

2:40

beat Indiana, and Arizona,

2:42

there I say it's starting to look like the best team in

2:44

the country again. Yeah. I'm pretty excited

2:46

about that. They do have the best front cord in the country

2:48

because there was a lot of I said in Maui, they

2:50

had the best frontcourt. The Indiana fans came

2:52

in my neck. They said, hey, have you ever heard of us?

2:54

Trey Shacks and Davis and Ray Thompson. We

2:57

learned on Saturday. Yep. There's a better frontcourt

2:59

in Arizona. They said Indiana would like a word. We

3:01

saw what that word was, and then it was

3:03

bad. The word

3:05

was bad. 1 know who's Chaffino,

3:07

so it doesn't really kick. That's true.

3:09

What else happened? Oh, Ohio statey Rutgers since

3:11

we last did a show, and the haters are absolutely sick

3:14

about that. Wow. They they are sick. I

3:16

1 didn't know this many people knew the rules of

3:18

going out of bounds and going in bounds. But, you

3:20

know, first of all, what happens people that didn't even

3:22

know the backcourt rules, they all of a sudden knew

3:24

all the rules. When Ohio State

3:26

stacks up w's -- Mhmm. -- the haters

3:28

are sick. The rulebook readers come out in full force

3:30

state, and they're ready. The the screen shotters

3:33

are are They were everywhere. Everywhere.

3:35

I couldn't believe it. I was celebrating the

3:37

wind. I didn't I had I had about Are we sure

3:39

he was even out of bounds? Right. Because

3:41

some of the angles I saw could have gone either way.

3:43

I don't know. It was blurry. Oh, we

3:45

we might talk about that. We'll see. Texas

3:47

is definitely not back. I don't know how much we'll

3:49

spend on that one, but the the long horns,

3:52

as I saw someone say, Book of horns

3:55

is the the New Motto known there in

3:57

Austin. Mhmm. I went to Berkeley, by the way,

3:59

and I have some thoughts. So I don't I don't know if we do

4:01

this at the end of the show in the middle of the show. I don't know what happens,

4:03

but I I am one of the few people

4:06

on this planet who have now seen Louisville

4:08

play in person. Mhmm. We I saw them in

4:10

the Mountain Invitational. I have now seen the

4:12

Calhoun bears play in person. Yeah. I

4:14

have thoughts on what would be the worst

4:16

power five matchup of all time. Unfortunately, we're not

4:18

gonna see it this year, but I I can I

4:20

I'm I'm willing to do that for I'm willing to

4:22

flush out what I think might happen today. Well, the good news

4:24

for you is we have good guy and we have bad guy.

4:26

We have cow's guy too. Cow guy. Yeah. We have

4:28

a lot of things talking about. This is a loaded show.

4:30

Alright. Well, let's stop talking and and

4:32

let's get into it. But first, what are you doing?

4:34

Hey,

4:34

thanks for time out of your mouth.

4:37

Take to go bow. Take to go

4:39

bow.

4:49

Alright. We will get to a good guy back guy.

4:51

I'll let Tate do this thing over

4:53

there because I'm I'm excited to hear what you what

4:55

you have prepared for all of us. But first, Purdue

4:58

is your new number one tape.

5:00

It is official. The Purdue boilermakers are once

5:02

again number one. Those of you who

5:04

remember last season in college basketball. You

5:06

might remember that Purdue for the first time in

5:08

the history of their program. Their story program going

5:10

back to the days of John Wooden, going

5:12

back to the days of the what is it? Nineteen thirty

5:15

two. The is that the national championship penalty?

5:17

I think it's thirty two. Because twenty nine is

5:19

Butler in in Carolina. Is that right?

5:21

No. Twenty four. Twenty

5:24

four. What's the what's

5:26

the oldest championship banner hanging in a arena?

5:28

There's gotta be a nineteen o one banner

5:30

somewhere. It'd be great if

5:32

there's a banner before basketball. Someone just

5:34

worked back. We were playing the sub

5:36

Canadian school. What what's the school that was

5:38

in Massachusetts, the the Nate Smith invented

5:40

the game in Springfield. Yeah. The

5:42

Springfield Community College. They put up the It

5:44

was the YMCA. Imagine that one. Have

5:46

a eighteen ninety one banner. It says eighteen ninety one

5:48

National Care. Yeah. Coach by

5:51

Doctor Nathan Smith. Purdue was

5:53

ranked number one last year. First time in

5:55

program history, it was a huge moment for the

5:57

program. Right. It is Purdue is

5:59

is for

5:59

all the jokes that that I and my

6:02

father and everyone else have made about crew basketball

6:04

through the years and

6:05

some of the the hiccups they've had in NCAA

6:08

tournament state. You cannot deny that

6:10

Peru was one of the great college basketball programs

6:12

that we have, and for them to find the b number one

6:14

was an awesome moment for the program. The fans

6:16

were going crazy. Everybody loved it, Ron

6:18

Hart percent suck on this and hit a half court shot.

6:20

And it was gone. And it was immediately gone. It's

6:22

just like that. Fast forward to

6:24

this year, Purdue was once again number one. I

6:26

think their fans are a little

6:28

more timid about it. They don't want it. They don't want

6:30

it. They're reaching out. They're like, please. AP

6:33

voters hear us out. We do not want the smoke do

6:35

not wanna be number one because they weren't even number

6:37

one yet, and they played Nebraska this weekend. And

6:39

it looked like they were already playing a little bit

6:41

tighter. We said on the last show, the number

6:43

one ranking is the hot potato. And

6:45

Yukon is is clamoring for it. They're

6:47

saying Yeah. They literally keep clapping their hands.

6:49

Yes. And putting their hands up. They were dewators.

6:51

Swiggy. Swiggy to treater.

6:53

We want the potato. And

6:56

Purdue is just aimlessly drilling around, like

6:58

-- Yeah. -- looking up the shot clock saying, like,

7:00

please please Jay Navi last year.

7:02

Please let me get to the email. Yes.

7:04

Yes.

7:04

ah

7:06

But, yeah, this is the this is the this is the debate,

7:08

I guess, in college basketball right now. It's Purdue,

7:10

Virginia. Houston obviously lost Alabama. We're gonna

7:12

talk about that at some point. Texas

7:14

lost to

7:16

Illinois, Mass regards. So

7:18

the there there are three teams that I think have a

7:20

legitimate case. It's Purdue. It's Virginia.

7:22

It's Uganda. And what's

7:25

funny, Tate, is is maybe you saw something

7:27

different, but I saw a lot

7:29

of the voters, a lot of the AP voters that are that

7:31

are willingly putting their neck out and saying, here's

7:33

here's my And I don't even know if I don't even know if

7:35

it's all AP voters because I saw Andy Katz puts

7:37

out his power thirty six. Right. I don't even know if that's

7:39

just AP voter if that's, like Well, you have

7:41

to remember, like, you have a different an

7:43

AP writer. Right, to have this AP

7:45

vote. Is that how this works? I have no idea actually. But

7:47

then I actually saw that there were people that

7:49

aren't AP writers that had a vote. Arsenal

7:51

has, like, three guys that are voting on it.

7:53

Get big

7:57

m, and he's like, wow. I'm like,

7:59

I'm like, congratulations.

8:02

Wow. No.

8:06

But I saw yeah.

8:08

Yeah. Yeah. Like Andy Katz put out the power thirty six,

8:10

and the question is is this And is this your

8:12

AP vote or is this your power thirty six? And

8:14

Andy, very smart guy might be what we

8:16

should maybe have him on the show and ask him, but he feels like

8:18

Andy would step in and be like, no. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

8:20

No. No. No. Now I have my bracketology.

8:22

I have my power thirty six. These are all

8:24

separate. And I have my AP phones. Yes. These are three different

8:27

things. But I saw a lot of

8:29

of here's how I voted. With

8:31

that being said, I think Yukon's the best -- Right. --

8:33

like that sort of messaging. Right. Like, I have

8:35

Purdue number one because Purdue has more Quad

8:37

one wins. Mhmm. But if

8:39

if we're being honest with ourselves, I think Yukon's

8:41

the best team in the country. And to all all those

8:43

people that have said that, you're cowards. You're -- Right. -- you're Right.

8:45

-- 1 the phone watch. Make the vote. You are a hundred

8:47

percent on Fraud Watch. Absolutely. I agree with

8:49

that. And, you know, I think as they're trying

8:51

to save face because last week's

8:53

poll, Purdue got eight first place

8:55

Virginia got three first place votes. Yukon

8:57

had zero first place votes. Mhmm. So

8:59

in their minds, based on their own

9:02

votes that they had the week before, they're

9:04

like, I cannot jump. This team

9:06

over these two teams that already got first

9:08

place votes. You did not lose. Yeah. Yes. Because that would

9:10

be wrong, but it

9:12

wouldn't be. It would actually be wrong. It would

9:14

actually be ridiculous. Since it turns

9:16

out the poll is supposed to be, who do you think the

9:18

best thing to write? It's like we're all playing

9:20

this game that's made up. And, like, you

9:22

can actually break the rules. And these are

9:24

unwritten rules. And yet, It's very baseball, you know.

9:26

It's like, you're not supposed to do that, but you're like,

9:28

but can I yeah. But you can't. Like, I don't

9:30

understand why I can't just can't

9:32

do that? So I

9:34

think you're right. I think the It's the courage

9:36

that it took to put Yukon 1

9:38

one. It would mean that you're saying throw

9:40

out the quads, throw out Kim Palm, throw

9:42

out all even though Kim Palm, Kim Palm has Yukon

9:44

number one now. So actually bring Kim Palm We

9:46

bring Kim Palm back in. Yeah. Bring him on

9:49

both. Throw out all of

9:51

and the thing about it was know, Virginia

9:53

fans, they're not clamoring to be No. I don't know.

9:55

Purdue fans, we just said it. They're timid.

9:57

They don't wanna be number one. Yukon fans

9:59

1 it. Well, why don't I give it to you? That's what

10:01

I think. Kind of what I was talking about

10:03

at the start of the season, the preseason, because I

10:05

I I'm a hypocrite. You know this? I'm not afraid

10:08

to to acknowledge. Oh, we all.

10:10

Yeah. So I'll I'll rip on all these

10:12

people that are talking about sides of their mouth, but then I was doing that

10:14

in the preseason. And I said, Houston

10:16

deserves the number one ranking. If if asked me to

10:18

vote on it, I would say Houston 1 hundred

10:20

percent. But at the same time, I

10:22

want North Carolina to be number one because I think

10:24

it's best for the sport. Yeah. I think

10:26

I think we need some common sense to step

10:28

in and say, this is what's best for the sport. And

10:30

what's best for the sport right now is you can be

10:32

number one. You know? And I think, like, I

10:35

1 wanna propose that every Sunday

10:37

night, we do a Zoom meeting with all

10:39

the AP voters, and I explained to them.

10:41

Like, I I just kind of state my

10:43

case. It's like, vote you wanna vote

10:45

for. Let's tab let's tabulate the

10:47

vote. Let's see where it stands. And then let's actually

10:49

talk this through and say, is this best for the sport? Because

10:51

as you said, Purdue fans don't even want this. Yeah.

10:54

Virginia fans don't want this. Virginia fans

10:56

wanted after they beat Houston at home. Like, that was what

10:58

they they they play Houston Saturday.

11:00

Their hope was Houston comes in

11:02

on Saturday. You beat Houston by, like, twelve. It's

11:04

an emphatic win against what

11:06

was the number one team coming in, you know. Like,

11:08

in their mind, they thought Houston was gonna be number one. They

11:10

beat the hell out of them. And then now they're like,

11:12

okay, now we'll take your number one. But as it stands

11:14

right now, she's Virginia fans don't want it, give it

11:16

to Yukon. It's best for the game. It's best for the

11:18

game anyway. And also Purdue only got

11:20

twenty seven first place votes. Virginia

11:22

got nineteen. Yukon got

11:24

fifteen. And Tennessee got one.

11:26

Yeah. Tennessee is another team.

11:28

Obviously, they've lost the game, but they're another

11:30

team that we talked about the start of the year. Very good

11:32

team. Yep. Impressed in the exhibitions,

11:35

impressed in the secret screen images, did

11:37

not impress in the first Lost to

11:39

Colorado, but a Plavic. How do you say his name?

11:41

Plavic? Plavic. Plavic.

11:43

Plavic. Plavic. Plavic. Big

11:47

Serb was we played three

11:49

minutes, I think, and was out for the he he's an

11:51

interesting dude, because we'll talk about Tennessee in a second, but I just

11:53

gonna say he like, he's he's an interesting dude because he

11:55

doesn't, like, play that much for

11:57

them, doesn't do he

11:59

does he he, like, doesn't put up monster

12:02

numbers. But

12:03

at the same time, there's a reason he starts, and there's

12:05

a reason, like Rick Barnes, Trust him. And the fact

12:07

that he got hurt against Colorado kind

12:09

of, I think

12:10

it matters. Think it matters. I think it matters.

12:12

I think it's a completely different team.

12:14

Not that you take it away, but I mean,

12:16

Tennessee in general is in that conversation.

12:19

Of could they end up being a number one tech? I

12:21

don't wanna I don't wanna step on what might be your

12:23

good guy, bad guy, all that picks. I don't wanna,

12:25

like, dive too much into some of these games that already

12:27

happened. But just talking about the number one. I'll say

12:29

this. We we I did reach out to

12:31

my dad who he

12:33

he I texted him. I was like, dad, the the

12:35

the people want on the show. They wanna hear what you have

12:37

to say last night. Coming off an Arizona loss for

12:39

the Cruisers -- Right. -- you know, and, you

12:41

know, produce Where's the space? Yeah. What's going

12:43

on? He said he

12:45

texts me back, can't make it today. And I I

12:47

double tapped and put because I thought he was

12:49

doing a bit. I thought he was, like, joking around. As

12:51

it turns out, he had a dentist

12:53

appointment. And I I fact checked

12:55

this. He had a dentist appointment. He goes

12:57

into his dentist appointment. I think it was supposed to be a

12:59

routine deal. They found,

13:02

like, an infection in his gums or something that

13:04

he had to have, like it wasn't, like, an emergency

13:06

surgery. He's, like, way too serious of a situation,

13:08

but it was, like, we should probably knock this

13:10

out while you're here. Mhmm. So what they

13:12

did was they numbed half of his face.

13:15

And

13:15

and he

13:16

he got, like, the procedure done. He's fine. Everything's

13:19

fine. He's going back home. I called him on the

13:21

way in to make sure he's okay because he

13:23

goes can't do today, I have to go to the dentist, and that

13:25

was all he told me. So I I my mom. I was

13:27

like, is dad okay? She's like, he's fine. You wanna talk to him.

13:29

And I he picks up the phone, and he

13:31

did have flirt speech. So I I either

13:33

my father

13:33

Listen. I'm Are he so shocked

13:35

that Purdue's back at number one? Right. That he said

13:37

that he he said that he he said a straight handle

13:40

it. He is shutting down. Either he's a

13:42

great actor, which he might be. I don't know. Like

13:44

his son did get a callback for Curt Rae. Right.

13:46

Right. So, like, he runs on the family, or

13:48

he actually did ever Jersey City. But he was on the

13:50

phone, like, trying to yell at me because he's like, I

13:52

wanna come on the show. Make sure they know I wanna come

13:54

on the show. I'm not talking to them. Let

13:57

them know. He's like, I can't

13:59

talk, though. I can't talk.

13:59

He's like, he's like, he's

14:02

coming. Yeah. Coming. And he said,

14:04

some of the stuff tried

14:06

to write down some of his his thoughts as

14:08

he was -- Right. -- I I was driving, so I I

14:10

wasn't trying to write them. But I was, like, keeping a middle note,

14:12

then I get to a stop sign, and I I I'd

14:14

pull over and, like, start typing some some of

14:16

the things you say. So first

14:18

of all, he he says,

14:20

Zachary is not that good. Zachary

14:22

is seven foot four and just all

14:24

of all of his He should have twenty rebound in

14:26

the game. Not impressed. Yeah. As my dad's official

14:29

stands with Zach Heating. He's like, I guess, give

14:31

him national player the year if you want. As

14:33

for me, not impressed. Right. So

14:35

that's that's his take on zacchini. He

14:38

says they are quote very beatable for his.

14:40

Right. He says if

14:42

if Nebraska could have made one shot at the

14:44

end of regulation, but he loses. So he's

14:46

like, this is more an Nebraska problem.

14:49

Like like, the

14:50

the the talk coming out of that game is Nebraska. It's not

14:52

Purdue. It's like Nebraska -- Let one

14:54

let one get away. Yeah. -- let one get

14:56

away. He said speaking of which, If

14:59

you think about it, Purdue technically tied they

15:01

didn't beat Nebraska. They tied with Nebraska. I think

15:03

my dad's got some World Cup fever going

15:06

on where he was trying to

15:08

present this as though -- It was a

15:10

draw. -- it was a draw and then we do the

15:12

PKs just to decide who advances. But

15:14

technically, you know, like Brazil did

15:16

not lose -- Mhmm. -- they drew. And

15:18

unfortunately, we have to figure out who advances and you

15:20

lost the pin really kick. But that doesn't mean you lost the match.

15:22

You actually tied the match. And you play

15:24

better. And you play better. So my dad

15:26

said, technically, if you break it

15:28

down, Nebraska and Purdue tied because it

15:30

came with overtime. And simply

15:32

one the the the

15:34

PKs. The PKs. Yeah. Produ one of the

15:36

PKs, which is not And he's not wrong. He's

15:38

not wrong. I see where he's coming

15:40

from. And then and then his final his final

15:42

bow tie was just you count as every

15:44

he goes none of this matters because you count as number one

15:46

1 everyone knows that they are by far the best in the

15:49

country. So he's like, I'm not I'm actually not

15:51

shook. Because you said I was more shook last year because

15:53

like Purdue actually looked like the best team there. He thought they were

15:55

number one. He's like this year 1 knows

15:57

they're not number 1. Even produce items. Yeah.

15:59

She's like, I don't really care. Right. That was a statement.

16:01

Okay. And he's like, make sure everyone knows I'm not

16:03

ducking show. So

16:05

there you go. I think he likes

16:07

Fletcher lawyer though. How could he not? I mean, I

16:09

like Fletcher a little bit. And also,

16:12

just for Purdue fans, we have to point out the

16:14

next game. Foster is coming home.

16:16

That's right. Now the player is going to play

16:18

Fletcher, and it is going to

16:20

be a killer killer. Yeah. This is gonna be

16:22

great. So I'm gonna circle that

16:24

game as a Davidson potential upset because

16:26

Sam Moninga. That's

16:27

right. I mean, come

16:29

on. We

16:29

need to we need to get Jay Billis on the call for

16:32

that one. Lawyer versus lawyer. Right. If the

16:34

lawyer on the The lawyer on the call. There you go.

16:37

Lawyer and Villas. You know

16:39

who produce next road game is

16:41

because my dad was big on that last year. When he came on the

16:43

show, he's like, let's keep an eye on that next road

16:45

game. And then they lost the records immediately.

16:47

You know, Purdue has on the road

16:49

next. January fifth, Columbus,

16:51

Ohio ten. Whoa. 1 buck

16:53

guys. The rank buck guys. Number one

16:55

for real coming to draw. Yeah. So

16:57

we'll keep an eye on that. Mhmm. So that's a situation

16:59

we will be monitoring in the program. I

17:01

think coach Titus is gonna be available then. Yeah. I

17:03

think so. I don't I don't think he's gonna have

17:05

a dentist appointment. When dad comes on the

17:07

screen and he's, like, should be having an emergency

17:10

procedure. Yeah. I guess two is, like, fallen

17:12

out. He's, like, got canceled all my play.

17:14

Hey fellas. Tell them I wasn't

17:16

ducking. I'm here. The

17:17

dentist said I need to come in right now to get

17:19

this taken care of. I said it can wait.

17:22

Today's

17:23

the day. Alright. The floor

17:25

is yours. Let's do a good guy, bad guy.

17:27

Kyle guy maybe? Yeah. Cal's guy? Cal's

17:29

guy, where you take it. Yeah. I have

17:31

I have it all today. We're gonna do the full rundown, but let's start with

17:33

good guy because there's really two

17:36

guys that are battling for good guy

17:38

of all, good ish guy of all

17:40

time. I mean, they are going for the goat status

17:42

of good guys. And, of course, we have

17:44

in one corner kidney pain. And

17:47

kidney pain has created nothing but pain

17:49

for all Louisville Basketball fans. All

17:51

fans of the sport in general. If you've watched Louisville

17:53

Play, and if you watched the play against Florida

17:55

State, there were some some

17:57

some sidelined videos that were coming out of Kenny

17:59

Payne on the bench laughing. Didn't Kenny

18:01

Payne say, did I get this right? I think in his post

18:03

He is not hit Rock bottom. He is not hit Rock

18:05

bottom. Yes. He's he's with Florida AM coming up

18:07

on Saturday. You have not hit right next to

18:09

me yet. AKA, get ready for that 1. and

18:12

girls because it might not be our first first

18:14

win. As Mike Rutherford said, it was All eyes are there.

18:16

All eyes are there. So, like, you know, kidney pain

18:18

is always gonna be in a good guy conversation this year

18:21

because we've never seen anything like

18:23

unprecedented at a power five level. But

18:25

in the other

18:25

corner is our

18:27

guy, California coach Mark

18:30

Fox. And you mentioned at the

18:32

top of the show, you're the only man in show

18:34

business in college basketball that has seen both

18:36

good guys in person I have boots on the

18:38

ground. We saw good guy, Kenny Payne, in

18:40

Maui, which you would think, good vibes. Somehow,

18:43

seemingly, was not good vibes -- Mhmm. -- even though

18:45

we're in Maui, You were at a

18:47

Berkeley game. I was. And I

18:50

Not many people can say that. Not many people

18:52

can say that. Mark Fox is the head coach.

18:54

I Googled today good guy, Mark

18:56

Fox. Two hundred tweets over the years. A

18:58

lot of people think he's a good guy. So We're

19:00

talking about the goats of good guys.

19:04

Ten miles apologize, but I don't think he's

19:06

on this level. Ten miles is he's doing

19:08

alright. He was in some of the the shots today with

19:10

Chris Beard when they were, like, showing him, like, in his

19:12

professional setting. You know? I was, like, there's ten

19:14

Good guy. But these two guys, Mark Fox, Kenny

19:16

Payne. You saw Mark Fox. What did you see

19:18

Mark Ted? Okay. So Tim Miles is

19:20

still the gold standard of good guy because it's

19:24

he never sunked the Nebraska programs to the depths that

19:26

that Cal and Louisville are

19:28

at. What made him so special as a good

19:30

guy was that when he was fired, he was

19:32

almost, like, like,

19:34

I wouldn't say happy about it, but he's almost

19:36

like, that's cool, man. Thank you for the opportunity. He's

19:38

like, I'm so head and crazy. Yeah. I can't

19:40

believe we can. What a 1. What a rock? It was a

19:42

water What a right? It was literally him in his car waving

19:44

to the media as he left his office.

19:46

He's, like, getting his stuff out of his office. He's, like, thank

19:48

you guys. It was funny to him, Yes. Yeah. And

19:50

he, like, turned it into content. He came on the show to accept

19:52

the award. That what a

19:55

what a time? For

19:57

that reason, like, he set the bar He'll go status.

19:59

So I

19:59

guess, like, the way Kenny paid

20:01

or Mark Fox, they don't

20:03

have to be as as

20:06

chummy as ten miles was when he was fired.

20:08

But I'm I'm curious to see what happens when these

20:10

two men are let go from their

20:12

current position. That's how they handle it. Because

20:14

if if they're even, like, half as

20:17

happy

20:17

or or or, you know,

20:19

affable, I

20:19

guess, would be the word. As as Tim Miles was when

20:21

he got fired, than

20:23

they are the new standard of good guy. Yeah.

20:26

Mark Fox could be that guy. I don't see Kenny Payne

20:28

being there. I don't I don't think so either. I think Kenny

20:30

Payne was like, I wasn't given enough time. Right.

20:32

I was really hoping

20:35

you give me one time. I simply didn't have

20:37

that. I really figured here too.

20:39

We're gonna turn a corner. You too

20:41

is your one. My plan was remember how said we hadn't hit rock

20:43

bottom. My plan was if you hit rock bottom

20:45

at a fast enough speed -- Yes. -- you'll actually,

20:47

like, bounce back like a

20:49

Phoenix. Yeah. Like, if you if you hit it if you're

20:51

going slow into the rock, you're not

20:53

gonna bounce his high back. So I was trying

20:55

to hit rock bottom. He's called a Ricky shit.

20:57

That's what he's going for. But your question, who

20:59

was worse? I

21:00

was thinking about it all game. So so

21:03

how many people were at the game? Can I start

21:05

there? That's my first question. So you're

21:07

in the building butler is coming into

21:09

town to play cow cow is o and

21:11

nine at this point. Go to this. House

21:13

civilian, I will say this. Is

21:15

very very underrated. Okay.

21:17

Incredible college basketball venue. It's the kind

21:19

of place you walk into and you say, you have to

21:21

walk into the actual gym part because

21:23

The Concourse is it is not Macky Arena. You

21:26

would not confuse this for Macky Arena. The

21:28

Concourses are tight, Tate. The

21:30

bathroom is not much to speak of.

21:33

The the concession stand, I found one

21:35

concession stand that was opened in the entire

21:37

arena. Their

21:39

the the hallways were

21:41

carpeted. As I was trying to find my way to

21:43

my seat. And then again, when I was trying to

21:45

find my way to the restroom after, like, the first time

21:47

out 1 that I needed to go pee, I

21:49

kept feeling like I was going to walk into a

21:51

class, like, an active classroom where a class was

21:53

in session. Yeah. Like, that's the kind of vibe as

21:55

you're walking through the hallways of place.

21:57

You're like, it's a school building. Yeah. It's a

21:59

school building. But

22:00

then when you step in and, like,

22:02

get in your seat, it's it's very

22:05

steep. It

22:05

feels very old. It feels like in nineteen

22:07

sixty seven, this place was packed and

22:09

it was rowdy and, you know, all

22:11

of the the Berkeley people were losing their

22:14

minds. So I I do ever

22:16

respect for that. Like, we on this day,

22:18

I did not see a pact. It was the opposite of

22:20

pact. There were maybe two thousand people

22:22

there. It was very, very barren. The

22:24

they had t shirts laid out for all

22:26

of the student section that

22:29

marked the student section. So there was

22:31

shirt on every seat in the student section, so the students could have a

22:33

free t shirt when you got there. Mhmm. The only

22:35

people in the student section were the band. It was

22:38

all empty. So at halftime, all the the fans that were

22:40

there, I shit you not at halftime. They walk

22:42

over to the student section. It stole the shirt. Wrapping up all

22:44

the shirts. Like, people were taking, like, twelve shirts at

22:46

a time. Thrown them over shoulder away.

22:49

It's Christmas time.

22:51

Yeah. The that's how I would

22:53

describe hospitality, and as it feels like it stuck in

22:55

nineteen sixty seven, for better

22:57

or worse. It makes it very cool, very

22:59

historic. But also,

23:01

like, the mascot is one of

23:03

the most horrific flicking mask guts I've ever seen. Like,

23:05

it the bear itself looked like

23:07

a paper mache bear that, like, some looks

23:10

like one of the students did a bunch of rooms the

23:12

night before the game and, like, was in their

23:14

dorm, like, putting together this head and

23:16

then they threw it on and sat in the student's

23:18

section. Very very creepy

23:20

mascot. The band was, like, the biggest weaves

23:22

I've ever seen in my life, but they were having a good

23:24

time. They were, like, they were That's cool. Yeah. They

23:26

were they were cool, like, having a good time,

23:28

but they're also having a band I wanna game makes

23:30

it feel like a college -- Yeah. -- immediately.

23:33

But it was also, like, the guy the band

23:35

instructor as the game is going on, the

23:37

band instructor calling out the next song. They'll play it the

23:39

next time out. And I am sitting across the

23:41

arena. You can hear what he's saying. Yeah.

23:43

Yeah.

23:43

So

23:44

the the the atmosphere said, and I would

23:46

describe it as this. The the cow

23:49

people, the administration, there

23:51

are fans that care, I imagine. I so I

23:53

apologize that these fans that I'm 1 and the

23:55

rest, but as a fan base, as a whole, does

23:57

not care, It is just a

23:59

very apathetic place to, like, the

24:01

biggest ovation of the day came when they

24:03

introduced the water polo team that just won the

24:05

national championship. They come out with their trophy and they're

24:07

holding it above their head and the place that gives them a state

24:09

innovation. And then that was it.

24:11

And that was that was as close as we got

24:13

to, like, a rock Scrappy.

24:15

Scrappy. The cow fans

24:17

aren't don't care as much as the Louisville fans,

24:19

which is why I imagine on top of a

24:21

lot of other things, but that's why we're here

24:23

more about Louisville's demise, you know? Because I think the

24:25

Cal people are, like, whatever, you

24:27

know, like, whatever. This is 1 like, Louisville, this is,

24:29

like, an actual problem. The crisis is

24:32

a crisis. Cals like

24:34

I hate sports. Yeah. Sports are stupid anyway.

24:36

Are do we need sports anyway? We should yeah.

24:38

We should use sports. Yeah. But what was

24:41

interesting to me is I felt like the

24:43

cow players care more than the Louisville players.

24:45

The cow player, like Devin asked you, is

24:47

still Now it it might have selfishly motivated. Like, I think

24:49

he might be trying to, like, average twenty a game

24:51

so he can point to NBA scouts and be, like,

24:53

I Average twenty a game. Average twenty a 1. Yeah.

24:57

Don't look up anything else. Yeah. Stop. Stop

24:59

right there. So I

25:02

ultimately laid it on this. I

25:04

think if Louisville was to play cow,

25:06

my read on it is

25:08

Louisville has better players in the sense

25:10

of, like, they they they passed the airport

25:13

test better. They have more athleticism.

25:15

They they should be

25:17

a better basketball team. They they should be

25:19

better. Right. Cal's Cal is bad. Cal

25:21

is very bad. So I think

25:24

Louisville I think Vegas would set the line

25:26

like Louisville minus three and a

25:28

half. This is a neutral chord by

25:30

the way. I

25:30

think Louisville would

25:31

be favored. But I actually think the

25:33

cow players would would care as the

25:35

game were on and and they're playing

25:37

in front of, like, seventy eight people

25:40

I think the Cal players continue to fight.

25:43

I think the Cal players

25:45

would continue to fight. I think the Louisville

25:47

players would give up like, eight minutes left in the first half.

25:49

It might be about one. Add the under sixteen

25:51

time out in the first half. I mean, we've seen that

25:53

happen. I also think Mark Fox is a better coach than

25:55

Kenny Payne. Think you're

25:57

right about it. And when you say that, it's shocking

25:59

to sail out, but, like, that's

26:00

where we've arrived. And I started doing some research

26:02

because, you know, Mark Fox, like I said, of people

26:04

think he's a good guy. All the Georgia fans when he got fired,

26:06

they were like, god, such a good

26:08

guy. Nine years with this man, I I

26:10

hate to see him go. Let's bring in Tom Crane,

26:12

and they were like, where's our good guy?

26:15

Yeah. We're bringing bring back

26:17

Mark. And I looked up the

26:19

the the win percentage, win loss percentage for

26:21

Mark Fox. And you would think you

26:23

know, 373 Right? That's

26:25

oh, not good. Twenty two and thirty seven

26:27

is his record so far. At Cal?

26:29

At Cal. Okay. Since twenty nineteen.

26:32

So he

26:32

has a better win percentage than

26:35

the guy before him winking Jones, who

26:37

was sixteen and fourteen Oh, he's improved. So

26:40

it's actually So as much as he is a good guy of the

26:42

century going on goat status, he's actually

26:44

turning the program around. Well, he's actually he's

26:46

actually trending up. Worried that

26:48

when he gets fired, that's gonna be his messaging.

26:50

Instead of being, like, thanks for the chance or thanks for the

26:52

opportunity. I had a great time. Great to meet all of

26:54

you people. He's gonna be, like, would you fire me? I was better the

26:56

last guy. Right. I had this program on the right

26:58

direction. Yeah. I was trending up. Yeah. We were trending

27:00

up. I was classically trending up. Look at look at

27:02

look at all the metrics.

27:04

And he's also not the

27:06

worst coach in Cal history based on win

27:08

percentage because Todd Bozeman,

27:10

thirty five and sixty three,

27:12

So

27:12

he's worse. Like I

27:15

said, why King Jones is up

27:17

there as worse with one percent and so he

27:19

has some people to point to and say it has

27:21

been worse. But if you're a nibs price

27:23

guy and you watch thirty years of good cow

27:25

basketball back in the thirties through the

27:27

sixties, you you're losing your mind

27:29

right now. Because you're like, what happened to my team? What happened to my

27:31

school? What happened to us? What

27:33

happened to What happened to the good guy? Pete Newell,

27:35

dude, who I believe he

27:37

was nine one. Nineteen sixty, they they was that the I

27:39

think they lost the title of Gimbal House state and I

27:41

One nineteen and forty four for Pete Newell.

27:44

So this guy this was a bad guy

27:46

that came here. There's potential. And

27:49

we talk about sleeping giants on the show. We always

27:51

try to pinpoint you

27:52

know, universities that that could actually get it

27:54

back, find that juice again. It feels like

27:56

in ten years, we're gonna be talking about Louisville.

27:58

Unfortunately, if it keeps trending like this,

28:01

Yeah. Cow's one of those teams too. I I asked around

28:03

what what's wrong with cow, like, how are you this bad?

28:05

Why are you this bad? A lot

28:08

of simply do not care from

28:10

the the administration simply does not care.

28:12

There's there's no resources being pumped into

28:14

it.

28:15

The PAC twelve situation was not helpful either

28:17

that it it it it goes all the way to the top

28:19

is what I was told. Right. They're like Larry Scott's in

28:21

the driver's seat. He

28:23

takes over to twelve, and he's like, we're we're going to

28:25

dominate all the sports that nobody cares about, which

28:28

is why

28:28

Cal, water polo team won the

28:31

national championship. Right. But

28:33

the sports that people care about, we do we're not gonna

28:35

care about. Mhmm. And then that trickled down to

28:38

the the moneyball approach. Yeah. They're

28:40

like, let's flood the market. And

28:42

then that trickled down to the CALID administration

28:44

where they were, like, we we are the

28:46

best in their minds. I don't know if they still are. I

28:48

I even looked up the rankings. I don't know what the new

28:50

AP poll says, but the best

28:52

public school in the country, we are

28:54

going to dump all of our resources

28:56

into making sure we keep that

28:58

status. Right. We do not

29:00

care about basketball. We do not care about football. We are not going to lower

29:02

our standards to let people in, but at the same time,

29:04

Jalen Brown and Aaron, Roger, sure you can

29:06

come on in. But

29:10

also, we're going to tell everybody that

29:12

we will not lower our standards.

29:15

That was Scott. Shout the

29:17

count. And they had a bad guy back

29:19

then. Yeah. Yeah. So and then and then

29:21

someone mentioned something about the football program,

29:23

and this is what I was starting to get into, like, tenth

29:25

oil theory, but also I was like, this is super

29:27

interesting. I gotta look this up in my own

29:29

time that they're they built the football

29:31

stadium on a fault line. And they had to go back

29:33

and redo a lot of the football stadium, and

29:35

they pumped a ton of money into fixing the

29:37

football stadium because of an earthquake hits,

29:39

like, it'll be, like, what was the movie

29:41

with the the campaign where the -- Yeah. -- yeah,

29:43

Darnay Razors. For Hines Ward, Atlanta

29:45

bombed, Darnay Razors. They're saying,

29:47

like, that was going to happen. So they had to so

29:50

basically, the administration pumped a ton of money

29:52

into that. Now they're sour on the whole

29:54

idea of, like, spending money on

29:56

athletics. So now, like, Mark Fox is like, hey,

29:58

we need more money to, like, get a recruit. They're

30:00

like, what the hell is this? Is this just

30:02

a endless stream of money goes to sports? Is

30:04

how this works? Yeah. Mark Fox

30:07

is like, yes, this is how it has to work. They're

30:09

like, no, we're not gonna do that. Yeah. But we also

30:11

just built a new building right there for the physics

30:13

department. Yeah. Do you see it? Go check out. We are

30:15

going to split the item on the standing system. We will be working

30:18

outside. Yes.

30:22

Anyway, that's that that was my birthday. I had a great time

30:24

at Berkeley. It was it's a cool little town. It's a

30:26

it's a little grungier than I thought it

30:28

was. Yeah. It's not as

30:30

everywhere in this game. I was Yeah. Let's stress stress

30:32

stress everywhere. I was I was expecting

30:34

a little more coin. I was expecting a

30:36

little more, like, old men with

30:38

a pipe -- Right. -- like an ascot, you know --

30:41

Yeah. -- like a really good day to you, sir. Welcome to

30:43

Brooklyn. Yeah. They have somehow been an accident.

30:45

They're very much not a town. We're like, people have

30:47

British accent. Yeah. But there was instead,

30:49

I saw a lot of signs that were, like, make sure all

30:51

your valuables are out of your car because people will

30:53

break your windows. Yeah. Like 1 were ever the signs

30:55

everywhere. Yes. And they're

30:57

-- Right. -- oh, okay. Yeah.

30:59

That's cool. Very

31:01

cool. Great campus. Great school had a great time.

31:03

That's my birthday report. In a big

31:05

win for both. For both. Over a Power

31:07

five. Power five squeeze. Max twelve. Don't look at

31:09

the reservoir. Resume. It

31:11

went over a power five team on the road, true road game. So

31:13

shout to that. Brad Brad Stevens just had

31:15

to shoot around. And He was in Berkeley? Yeah.

31:17

Because the Celtics were playing the Warriors.

31:19

Oh, next night, and Brad can't

31:22

help himself. I know. He loves Butler

31:24

so much. Yeah. He loves Butler more than Boston. I think

31:26

Brad knew I was there too. I think Brad wants me. I

31:28

think, like, secretly like Brad's Yeah.

31:30

I think Brad He wants you on the butler's

31:32

app. I think Brad is, like, texting everybody. He's, like,

31:34

what Mark say about me to speak on the show. Yeah. You

31:36

think that he brings he

31:39

comes so he comes in after Thad. Let's say

31:41

Thad says, I have a succession plan.

31:43

Brad's coming in after Thad. First, there was Thad,

31:45

then there was Thad. And then comes takes over.

31:47

And he's like, I gotta bring you in

31:49

Titus, but I also have to fire you doobler. Oh,

31:52

that's that's that's what I'm doing. I think that's

31:54

the money shot. Shout out

31:56

to Brad, by the way, he did get into the Indiana

31:58

basketball fame. After all after all after all

31:59

Mass o yeah. Mass o's in the he did get

32:02

inducted into the hall of fame. I thought Indiana was

32:04

different. But Yeah. I think I

32:05

think Brad was, like, the the hot chick, and I

32:07

was, like, the nerdy guy that was, like, you

32:10

know, really into her to him. Her I don't

32:12

know. I'm just the analogy already. And

32:15

he he he liked to stiff arm me and

32:17

keep me over there. But then at a certain point, I started

32:19

I realized the only way to win his love is

32:21

to start nagging him. You know? And to

32:24

kinda just be like, you know what, I don't need you anyway.

32:26

Yeah. And I've done that. So now I think he's

32:28

like he's like suspiciously circling me. You

32:30

know what I mean? Like, we're just like ships in the night. Like Well,

32:32

he wants the Indiana. Yeah. Think so. He wants the home I

32:34

think so. I see what's happening. He wants to go. 1 think so. You gotta

32:36

get out of Boston. It's not that they're doing anything good.

32:38

I was told he's a hundred percent 1 coaching,

32:41

though. Which broke my heart. Which but again, I felt like

32:43

that was a shot at me, and I was like, dude,

32:46

stop saying. Stop saying. Stop saying. Stop saying

32:48

that. Who keep like, why do you keep answering that

32:50

question? Right? Like, if you were a hundred percent

32:52

done, you'd like don't ask. Brad, the question was, what did

32:54

you have for lunch? Yeah. Is there a Don't

32:56

coach. Yeah. I don't wanna coach. Yeah. Who

32:58

said I wanted to coach? He wants the coach butler.

33:00

That's the truth. I think so. That's the truth.

33:02

Moving on. Bad

33:04

guy of the week. Bad guy of the week is one of my

33:06

favorite bad guys on this program and

33:08

You

33:08

know, I I'll I'll use his quote

33:11

because I thought it was a a good

33:13

phrase to to represent what's happening

33:15

down in Memphis right now. Things

33:17

have come to fruition as Penny Hardaway pointed

33:19

out. God's got us. God's got us. And

33:21

he was right. This man he he's

33:24

a believer And he believed just

33:26

like I did, I told you. I said watch

33:28

out for Auburn on Saturday. The

33:30

Memphis Tigers came. The

33:31

Memphis Tigers saw a whole lot of Auburn fans

33:33

in the building. Mizalatine, that was ranked

33:35

number eleven in the country. And Penny Hardaway

33:38

looked at Kendrick Davis, and he said,

33:39

these

33:40

are the Auburn Guards. And

33:42

and luckily and luckily,

33:44

Kendrick Davis and the rest of men fits Yandray

33:46

Williams. Furthermore. Yeah. They said, oh, yeah. That

33:48

is right. These are the same guards that we

33:50

saw last year that seemed to just make

33:53

just absolute messes of

33:55

games at times. Katie Johnson being

33:57

Kate Johnson could both win you a game He

33:59

could definitely lose you a game

33:59

as as we saw here against Memphis.

34:02

But Kendrick Davis was amazing. Deandre

34:04

Williams and Kendrick Davis combined for forty three

34:07

points together a great second half for Williams.

34:09

But Penny Hardaway apparently gave a pet

34:11

talk before the game, took Kendrick

34:13

Davis and was like, This

34:15

is your time. This is your moment.

34:17

This

34:17

is your this is your day.

34:19

And Larry Brown shut out to

34:21

coach Larry Brown. He had just stepped

34:23

down from his adviser role with the team.

34:25

And, you know, in honor of coach Brown

34:27

who I think is the greatest bad guy

34:29

of all time that we've ever seen. Because

34:31

Larry Brown, he famously said, I can walk into any gym

34:33

and tell you the best player is, and I can get him

34:35

to come to my school. And everyone's like, what?

34:38

What?

34:38

Like,

34:40

famously also won a national title and was like, oh, by the

34:42

way, I'm not sure. Yeah. Because he invented

34:45

the peak care. He was like, what are you

34:47

guys doing? I'm investigating the peak. see

34:50

later. Roy Williams, you want this

34:52

channel? So in honor of

34:53

coach Brown, in honor of Memphis getting

34:55

a huge win over the

34:57

number eleven team, and honor Fenny

34:59

Hartaway, getting getting away from all the charges, getting

35:02

away from all the cloud, and and living in

35:04

the sunlight, and beaming,

35:06

and shining, shouts

35:08

in Memphis Tigers. And as they were winning this game, Titus, I

35:10

picked this up on on the TV sound. They

35:12

started playing whoop that trick. Oh, really?

35:14

Yeah. This is a neutral site. This

35:17

is how much confidence he had in his team

35:19

because obviously someone on his staff told

35:21

whoever the PA person was when we're

35:23

up in this game

35:26

late. Would you please play what that was actually would you please

35:28

play what that trick? And they

35:30

did and they they beat the Tigers, and it

35:32

it was a great day for Memphis basketball.

35:36

Bad

35:36

guy the way. Bad guy for getting Kindred Davis of nothing else because he's --

35:38

Right. -- he's been awesome for SMU. Am

35:42

I Am I counting

35:44

this correctly that Memphis has eleven

35:46

seniors on the roster? Yeah. It's a

35:48

very old team. In two juniors? Yeah.

35:51

Paying hard away basically flipped the culture in the

35:53

same way that cow fake did. You know? Or cow's

35:55

like, I'm going for grad transfers. I'm playing

35:57

in the portal. I'm done with these

35:59

one and done kids. Penny Hardaway said, you know what I want against eighteen and nineteen year

36:02

olds? I want twenty three, twenty four, and

36:04

twenty five

36:06

year olds. Successful

36:07

at Mike Rae's doing. He's like, I'm gonna play the game here and hope to gather

36:09

these old guys just pumped these young

36:11

kids. And but you're being, but a boom. You

36:13

win more games. Jonathan

36:16

Lawson, freshman guard from

36:18

Memphis.

36:20

Mhmm. He he plays. He's in

36:22

the rotation.

36:24

And then

36:24

if

36:25

if if what I'm reading is

36:27

correct. Basically, every

36:28

other guy that's seen the floor for them this

36:30

year is a senior. Yeah. Pretty

36:32

much. That's

36:34

crazy. Yeah.

36:35

And they're all like twenty

36:37

three. They're all like

36:38

twenty two, twenty three. That's

36:39

crazy. They're all from

36:42

Memphis too. 12345 guys

36:44

from Memphis, two guys from

36:46

Houston. Kindred Davis and Deandre Williams. You wanna

36:48

hear something crazy? Deandre

36:50

Williams? What? Is older than

36:52

Stets and Bennett. Who's

36:54

older than Lamar Jackson? Who's older than Lamar

36:58

Jackson? Deandre

37:00

Williams. Is

37:00

three years younger than me. And I have been school

37:02

for

37:02

quite some time. He's

37:06

twenty six. Is

37:09

the older than Jason Tatum for real? I mean, he might I I think he and Jason Tatum might

37:11

be the same age. I 1 don't even know how

37:13

Jason Tatum is twenty four. Oh,

37:15

he's two years older than Jason Taylor. So

37:18

Deandre Williams is two years older than

37:20

Jason Taylor. Wow. That's bad

37:22

guy moves. Yeah. That

37:24

Penny has quietly flipped this

37:26

program around in that regard. And and quietly

37:28

being the keyword here because I

37:31

think in order for Memphis to truly be

37:33

back, I'm gonna say the same things I was

37:35

saying about IU entering the season. The the

37:37

the most sure fire way to know your

37:39

back is that you aren't running

37:41

to the mountaintops and beating your chest and saying

37:43

we're back, like, twice a month, you

37:46

know. You just kinda like let it happen. You

37:48

beat Auburn. You're excited. You feel good.

37:50

It's a good win. Program should be feeling

37:52

good about where you're at, but you don't

37:54

have Chris Vernon beating down our door scene. Let

37:56

me on the show -- You too. -- dot

37:58

com. Look at

37:59

the highlights. That dream And you're also not celebrating off season

38:02

wins. You're not -- Yeah. -- looking at, like, who in

38:04

the portal is considering Memphis

38:06

and is

38:08

Penny going to get Bronnie James to Memphis and all these sorts

38:10

of things. You're like, let's just when we

38:12

play a team that's ranked eleventh in the country,

38:15

what if we beat them? What if we just beat them? And we just beat

38:17

them soundly and and we move on. And that's

38:20

what they're doing. So congratulations, Memphis. I

38:22

love it. And they also have

38:24

Mikey Williams. Right? Coming in. So, I mean, he is I saw his take

38:26

back everything I just said. Well, when Nike

38:28

Williams comes in, they're gonna go right

38:30

back to Chasing the clock. I like

38:32

it. I like it. He's playing both sides. Yeah. I

38:34

mean, if there's anything we know about a penny, you know, you

38:36

gotta flip that. You gotta you gotta play both sides,

38:38

and Penny can do it. And I'm

38:40

excited about a bad guy the week, Penny

38:42

Hardaway. We needed it for the sport. Yeah. That

38:44

game was kind of the bad bowl too by the way with

38:46

with Bruce Pearl Penny Hardaway to Bruce

38:48

Pearl by the way. My god. He got a

38:50

technical in this game. And he should have gotten

38:52

tossed. I mean, he was absolutely

38:54

unhinged. And I I

38:56

think I think character counts might

38:58

have been You know how Bruce Pearl loves an Apex

39:00

point of his time and then he wears his

39:03

welcome. Yeah. I think character counts in in that ditch

39:05

on the side of the road was the Apex

39:07

point. I really do. That was the jump into the

39:09

shower. Heating Carolina with Chumo Kiki,

39:11

like, those those were the good times. And I

39:13

think he might he may have jumped

39:15

but I don't wanna get ahead of myself. But the guards are the same.

39:17

I according to Kenneth

39:20

Pomeroy, his little depth chart,

39:22

frequent lineups, I don't know how

39:24

to read any of this. So take

39:26

take this with a grain of

39:28

salt. That's why there used to be a

39:30

segment. It's like, Ken Palm stat of the day

39:32

where III pick out a stat and then I try

39:34

to explain it and I You know what I want? I have no

39:36

idea what I'm looking at. I want all the top

39:38

assistant coaches to be given the Kim Palm and then have to, like, explain what

39:40

they're looking at. And they're all just, like, get this out of my

39:42

face. But it looks like, like I said,

39:44

Jonathan Lawson,

39:46

Freshman Guard is

39:48

literally the not not only is the only guy in the rotation,

39:50

he's literally the only guy that has seen the

39:52

core at any point in time from Memphis, that is

39:54

not a

39:56

senior. Right? Not even they don't have, like, a a sophomore walk on

39:58

that they've thrown in for ten seconds at the end

39:59

of the game. And I remember, you know, when

40:02

Penny lashed out,

40:04

last year when he had that press conference when he's

40:06

like, stop disrespecting me,

40:08

bro. Yeah. When he did that whole thing -- Yeah. -- he

40:10

was really upset because he had to play

40:12

four freshmen. And he was like, I'm playing

40:14

nineteen year olds against twenty three year olds. You

40:16

think we're gonna win? I I do not

40:18

vacate the jokes. The the penny jokes

40:20

are still hanging in my rafters in my

40:22

house. Right. But at the same time,

40:24

Penny, by the end of that season, I wouldn't

40:26

say he was vindicated,

40:28

but he He was -- Right. --

40:30

like, the team that we were

40:32

quick to bury Memphis. They ended up being a

40:34

decent team. They gave Kentucky a

40:36

great game.

40:37

the I don't Like, so

40:38

he was he was he I don't know if he was right, but he

40:40

was trending right. He was, like, trending in the right

40:42

direction. Like, if they beat Gonzaga, he was a

40:44

hundred percent right. Give me give me at least the benefit

40:47

of the doubt. But that benefit of doubt, and now it's

40:49

all come to fruition. But at the same time -- Yeah. --

40:51

you got us. Yeah. Like, I got like, you

40:53

you put it on

40:56

your Instagram. In the from the front pewa

40:58

church, like a picture of the pastor. And then prayer hands to say,

41:00

like, Memphis, we need your prayers --

41:02

Yeah. -- for our basketball team. Yeah.

41:05

Please. Please. Because he wanted to get help.

41:07

Like, I'm not gonna apologize for laughing at

41:09

that. It was. I will I will not apologize

41:11

for that. They play

41:14

Alabama tomorrow. And that is a classic let down game if

41:16

you're Alabama. So you you but

41:18

also is in a let down game for Memphis. So it's a

41:20

double let

41:22

down. It will be let 1 day. One day,

41:24

we don't, for sure. Whoever loses that game, we will be talking about how let down. They

41:26

were let down. Major let down. What

41:28

else we got? So there you go. That's that's the

41:32

bad guy. Cal's guy, Kentucky, very

41:34

quiet

41:34

right now. I mean, Oscar

41:36

Sheboy is plotting along. Kentucky's

41:40

winning games. Not pretty by any means, but they're winging That's what I I

41:42

think I brought that up last week or

41:44

two weeks ago that Kentucky is

41:46

going it

41:47

is going to be quiet Kentucky

41:49

because it's the the the schedule that they have is such

41:51

that it's going to take a little bit

41:53

of time before you and I come back into these

41:55

chairs and sit down and

41:58

be like, Boy, it's time to talk about Kentucky because what we're seeing out of these wildcat

41:59

you know, for for

42:02

them to win us back, it's gonna

42:03

be a little bit of time. Right.

42:05

So they're kind of And there's

42:07

kinda put them on the shelf right now. And there's teams that they can beat that

42:09

you're like, oh, okay. Like in Alabama -- Right. -- or Tennessee.

42:11

And then you're like, okay. Kentucky, you

42:13

have my attention again.

42:16

But cow's guy of the week is pretty the

42:18

future recruits,

42:19

which as we all

42:21

know. I mean, that that's

42:23

usually cow's guy, but based

42:25

on Caliberi's Twitter, which I'd love to keep

42:27

up with. So that's how I keep up today with

42:29

what he's doing. He was in

42:31

Atlanta yesterday checking out

42:34

Rob Dillingham, Donna -- Academy. Mhmm. -- Jim Cunningham's

42:36

favorite school in America. And

42:38

he wanted us to point out that Rob

42:41

since he's gotten out of school in California, since he

42:43

got out of Donna, he has not been able to see

42:45

him play and watch him play. Mhmm. He's very

42:48

excited about that. He also really

42:50

enjoyed watching Reed Shepherd

42:52

last night and said he's a great

42:54

teammate, so I wanted to point that out. So

42:56

In general, I think Calipary is trying to remind own his lifetime

42:59

contract. He's trying to remind us that he

43:01

has great talent coming in. If

43:04

not if nothing goes well this year, just remember we're always

43:06

looking toward the future. Yeah. Everything that you're

43:08

With yeah. Perry, the future is future's

43:11

bright. Yeah. What The league's in good hands. When you

43:13

say a guy is a good teammate, what's the first thing that comes

43:15

to mind for you? When you hear a guy is a good teammate,

43:17

what are you what you picture? In him. Someone someone falls

43:19

down and then goes and picks up. He runs over.

43:21

He picks him up. He's, like, at the top of the queue,

43:23

it falls down.

43:26

Right. Unpushes the other guy as a pro. Yeah. He pushes the guy knocked him

43:28

down away and then takes him up. Yeah. Okay. That's

43:30

good team, man. Yeah. And then and

43:34

then shoot a free throw. They're, like, coming up to give you a high five, like, a legit

43:36

one, not like the fake ones 1, like, you you've obviously

43:38

been told by your coach to get the high

43:40

fives. They, like,

43:41

run down. Well, it's interesting because I think being

43:43

a good teammate and being a good leader are there

43:45

a lot of the same traits, but it's not the same

43:48

thing. And so because if you're the guy

43:50

who calls they're in the free throw. You're the one that calls the huddle. That's not a good teammate.

43:52

That's a good leader. Right. But

43:54

I think you're right. The guy that rushes over to

43:56

help the

43:58

guy up. That is good. That is leadership, but it's also good to take it

43:59

off a good teammate. And, like, you can't be a good leader

44:02

unless you're a good teammate. So it's a it's a

44:04

build, you know. Of guys that are being good

44:06

teammates wanna be that good leader one

44:08

day. I think I think like Fletcher's lawyer.

44:10

Yeah. I think good teammate is

44:12

also like you're three

44:14

for nineteen. Mhmm. And

44:16

you you you're on the bench now

44:18

and then your teammate hits a shot and you

44:20

stand up and you're celebrating. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good

44:22

teammate. Yeah. That's a good -- Caleb love.

44:24

-- bitched on Saturday in the first

44:26

half. Settrimble looking great out there. Was he

44:28

a good teammate? Good teammate. Good teammate, Caleb love. Love

44:30

to know. Hey, shocking. Hang that. I mean, we

44:32

were we were upset. I could have

44:35

a team anyway. Kentucky does have utility

44:37

on Saturday, master scorecard. We'll be in

44:39

the building for that game, too. So maybe I don't know.

44:41

Maybe we're we're talking about Kentucky a little bit on Saturday. We'll see. I don't know.

44:43

We'll see. But at at

44:44

the end of the day, Cal's guy of the week is easy.

44:47

It's the future recruits. He's locked in on the future, which

44:49

makes me worry about the president as his

44:52

tradition. And then finally,

44:54

cow

44:56

guy. Didn't

44:56

get a, you know, any info from cow guy, didn't get any reports,

44:58

but here's the cow guy update.

45:00

Your Virginia cavaliers,

45:01

your wahoo's, number two in

45:03

the

45:03

eight people. Yeah. Yeah. And as Virginia

45:05

fans have pointed out ever since I I we did

45:07

the show where I I opened up saying, Yukon is

45:10

definitely number one and this team's

45:12

terrifying 1 who

45:14

could beat this team and all that kind of stuff. Virginia did point out

45:16

to it. I thought you guys were

45:18

scrimmage guys because Virginia beat

45:20

Yukon in a secret scrimmage. Right.

45:23

People So does that, you know, or do we care? Do we

45:26

not care? III personally I

45:28

do care. Yeah. And I think we have to

45:30

care. So I

45:32

think you Virginia might actually be number one. I think when you look at it, there

45:34

are three number one teams in the country. Right? I 1 think

45:36

that's where I've landed. Yeah. Like like there are three

45:38

number one

45:40

In high school. That that's just how it just goes up. It just

45:42

keeps climbing up. I also think weirdly

45:44

when when I look at Yukon and Virginia,

45:47

I like if he's healthy. I like

45:49

Virginia has a closer. Virginia has re

45:52

speak, man. I think he is a closer. And I

45:54

think Yukon still has

45:56

some fact finding on who that person

45:58

is for their team. Yeah.

45:59

I just searched Kyle Guy

46:02

on Twitter. Because that's that's a really effective way to do this.

46:04

Okay. There's a Twitter account

46:06

called Clay

46:08

Thompson Stan.

46:09

Who tweeted, this

46:10

is on October twenty first, so this is

46:12

not relevant at all. My God, Elon. Get the the

46:14

algorithm fixed, dude. Because this is Fixed the

46:16

algorithm. Yeah. This is what popped up first. Some

46:19

guy tweeted, I'm now featured on House of Highlights

46:22

Instagram page, and Heat Legend

46:24

Kyle Guy liked it. And then it's a

46:26

video with a and then like a screenshot

46:28

of Kyle Guy like this guy's

46:30

Instagram post. So there you

46:32

go. Active online. The fans

46:34

appreciate it? They they see

46:36

it? They appreciate

46:38

you, Kyle. So some twelve year old got featured in house by

46:40

highlights, and Gauge guy was like, good job

46:42

double ten. I think Gauge comes on the

46:44

show. Wynn,

46:46

Virginia's number And I don't know. I think that's

46:48

what we're saving it for you. Yeah. I could tell Kyle, like, we've we've put out the ask, and he's like, I I love you

46:50

guys anytime. You want me on the

46:53

show. Come on. And we're like, what about now?

46:55

He's like, he's like, anytime. Just let me know. like, you're like, right. Kyle, we're literally asking

46:58

you today. And he's like There's every time. The

47:00

time is

47:02

now. Anything now? He's like, no. That's great, guys. Anytime. Just let me know. And

47:04

he just keeps saying that. I do think that

47:06

when Virginia becomes number one, if Virginia

47:08

becomes let's not be presumptive here.

47:11

He will be he he, like my father, will will

47:13

be suspiciously available -- Right. -- out of nowhere. Right.

47:16

Yeah. And I think that's fair, and I think that's what we

47:18

wanna see. And also, I mean, if Virginia beats

47:20

Houston who

47:22

would still be number five. I they they have to jump.

47:24

They jump. It depends on how it how it

47:26

shakes out. You know? It it depends on if

47:28

they go to overtime. Alright.

47:30

It's a draw. And then it's a draw. That's how case we always look at

47:32

it. That's how we always look at it. Well, there

47:35

you have it. Good guy. Good segmentation. Cow's

47:37

guy cow. Cow's dog. Well done. Let's

47:39

take a break. We'll come back and talk about Alabama Houston a

47:41

little bit maybe. Yeah. I was in

47:44

Tennessee, Maryland. Mhmm. Some of these

47:46

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47:48

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Golden Colorado. Alright. Let's talk

50:54

about Alabama a little bit because they are a team

50:56

that you have been high on ever since you're

50:58

on my or lost them before over times. And you

51:00

you were put in a position where you were desperate to

51:02

convince everybody that was actually not a bad loss

51:04

for your line. Not a bad loss. A

51:07

draw, as you say. I I yeah. It's

51:09

a it's a draw it's a draw time for whatever.

51:11

Right. I as as more of

51:13

a neutral party watched that

51:15

game and I yeah, Alabama beat Carolina. I'm not saying they're bad. I'm

51:17

not saying they're undeserving of a top ten ranking, but

51:20

also, you know, they got smacked

51:22

by Yukon. They they

51:24

needed four over times to beat a a suspect

51:26

Carolina team. And not only did

51:28

did they need to four over times,

51:30

but it was very very sloppily played. And they didn't win

51:32

the game as much as Carolina handed it to

51:34

them. Sometimes, literally, on some of those out of

51:36

business plays. They just Drew, can just

51:39

throw it right to them. Yeah. So I said wait and

51:42

see. Like, III think Alabama is

51:44

going to be good. They're

51:46

very young. The the pieces are there. You I I see

51:48

the vision. I'm not there yet with them. I

51:50

gotta see

51:52

more.

51:52

The first half of this

51:54

Houston game, which I went back and watched.

51:56

So IIII will say this. I

51:58

did not watch this live. This was Saturday. I was

52:00

I was in Berkeley locked in on

52:03

on how Bad Cal was that I I did

52:05

not watch this game. So I I watched it

52:07

again on the DVR. I go

52:09

back and watch knowing that

52:11

Alabama 1.

52:13

And I can't tell

52:15

you how many times I pause

52:17

the game. And I I double

52:19

checked my score app And I

52:21

was like, Alabama won this game. How was it possible? Right. How the this Houston

52:23

was up when, like, sixteen in the second half. They got

52:25

up at least thirteen. Sixteen

52:27

and thirteen. Yeah. Bama

52:30

is turning the ball over like crazy in the first half, throwing it all

52:33

over the gym. Sloppiest even when

52:35

they were scoring, it wasn't like graceful.

52:37

It was, like, kinda put your head down.

52:40

Right. Throw out a wild

52:42

pass to a guy who hits a three and it's

52:44

like They play like a very young team. They're very

52:46

very young team. And I'm

52:48

scratching my head, like, how the hell did this happen?

52:50

Now, Trey, my mark fouls out for Houston.

52:52

Kelvin Samson has made it clear that

52:54

he thinks the game goes a little differently if he doesn't fall out on a suspect

52:56

call. I agree with him, but also at the same

52:58

time. Don't put your

53:00

guy in spot maybe. Like, don't like,

53:02

let's be smarter about how we're approaching

53:04

this game. And and also, if losing one

53:06

player who's not even your best player,

53:09

If losing him makes your entire team

53:11

crumble, that's not good. Then we gotta look in where dude.

53:13

We gotta figure out what the hell is going on with

53:16

the team. So trademark

53:18

files out. The game starts to unravel for

53:20

Houston. They they do not score. It's

53:22

seemingly the last five, seven minutes, whatever it

53:24

is. Alabama is just chipping away, chipping away,

53:28

they start taking care of the ball down the

53:30

stretch. 1, but two, I guess

53:32

my big takeaway was how impressed I was with

53:34

the team on the road against the number one team in

53:36

the country with every reason to just pack

53:38

it in or and or just start playing for

53:40

individual accolades, like Brandon Miller, just

53:42

be like, alright, we're gonna lose Now

53:44

watch the step back. Yeah. Yeah. But they didn't do that. They

53:46

they just kept chipping away, chipping away, look up,

53:49

they take the lead late,

53:52

they they even then when you take the lead lane, a young team

53:54

could be like, we did it. We won. There's

53:56

still two minutes left. We're up by two now.

53:58

We did it. Congratulations. Pat on the back. We

54:01

did it. They didn't do that either. And they just kept playing well

54:03

and and stole the win. Alabama

54:05

officially has my attention. I still have a lot

54:07

of questions. I still think they are very, very far

54:10

from being a perfect

54:12

basketball team. Mhmm. But

54:13

also the flip side to that is they are very

54:16

far from me to perfect basketball team and

54:18

just 1 at number one on the roads. And what does every freshman group

54:20

of freshman need confidence? Right? So you

54:22

just beat the number one team in four over times

54:24

1 you say to yourself, wow. I

54:28

can't believe we survived that game and we came away with the win. That's pretty shocking. But,

54:30

hey, you can write that off as a one

54:32

off type of flu. Yeah. Whatever one is not

54:34

that good. Yeah. Right. Right. Right. And

54:37

now you go on the road in this

54:39

environment. Houston playing at home for the first time with the

54:41

number one 1. There's obviously some

54:44

pressure that comes along with that, but they they're all locked

54:46

in. This is a big moment. This is a big setup

54:48

for a big win. Everything's going wrong

54:50

for you. Brandon Miller is not having a

54:52

good game. Clowney was really

54:54

the one that that stood out of the freshman. I mean, he

54:56

was amazing in this game. He was kind of the

54:58

star. And when he played against Carolina, he was

55:00

I I don't even remember him. I'm like, who is this

55:02

guy? So that that's the other part

55:04

of Alabama. That's scary. It's like this very, like, core

55:06

of

55:06

talented kids. They're getting this confidence.

55:08

They're not even playing their best.

55:12

But then

55:12

at the end of the game, Brandon Miller's having to make very

55:14

clutch free throws and he's just nailing them.

55:16

It does even like he's affected by it.

55:19

And when you get to March, you're always, you

55:21

know, a little reticent to say, I

55:23

think that these kids can deal

55:25

with that pressure, deal

55:27

with that Alabama can. And and I think it's

55:29

because Brandon Miller I mean, he is

55:31

uniquely talented. I mean, this

55:34

guy is a pro. This guy is gonna be a

55:36

top five

55:38

pick. And I like the way he carries himself. And I think he's only gonna get better.

55:40

Countie, I think he's only gonna get better. Mark

55:42

Sears. I think Mark Sears is great.

55:44

Great. That that I think really

55:47

kind of get you that bucket that you need in the tournament, that guard that

55:49

you need. So when I look at

55:51

Alabama across the board,

55:52

at alabama across the board

55:54

I'm

55:54

very impressed, and I don't think they've reached their ceiling. And I don't even think they've come close to

55:56

-- They haven't even seen it close. -- but they know how to

55:58

close games. I as I said, they're not

56:01

afraid of the moment. As I says a

56:03

lot. As I was watching this game, all I could think was like Alabama doesn't know how to play basketball.

56:05

Right. I say that as a compliment because

56:07

again, you just beat the number one team in the country

56:09

on the road who

56:12

is is this one is, like, legit. It's not a

56:14

Asterisk number one way. Not a mistake. 1

56:17

North Carolina one was. North Carolina's a little bit in free fall,

56:19

and you caught him on the way

56:22

down. It was very, very legit. But I but

56:24

Alabama man, like, they're they're again, I

56:26

say this I say this with with

56:29

a sense of optimism. This is not like me

56:31

nitpicking or or trying to shit on like a a fun

56:33

team that's ranked fourth now and there there are good

56:36

vibes around the program. But these guys, like,

56:38

do not look like they know how to play basketball at

56:40

all. They're so young. They're just

56:42

so long and they they

56:44

not all of them across the I

56:46

mean, like, you know, like, some are better than others. But as a whole, like, they

56:48

the the offense is sloppy at times. They

56:51

they weirdly get their shot blocked a

56:53

lot. They they block a lot

56:55

of shots defensively, but they also get their Shack locked

56:57

a lot. It's it's a lot of like just

56:59

drive and kick and then shoot threes, which works out

57:01

well because that's like what NATO just trying to do

57:04

is like, He's he's he's

57:06

crunch the numbers. He's run his algorithm.

57:08

He says, we wanna dunk the ball or

57:10

or make threes. That's what we're trying to do out here.

57:12

We are we are doing a a Darryl Morrie

57:14

ball. Yeah. Thank you. You saw where I was going

57:16

with that. Yeah. That

57:18

that that's that's

57:20

that's what they're trying to accomplish, but, like, it it they're not particularly

57:22

an aesthetically pleasing team in

57:24

that regard. Like, it's it it

57:27

can be copy at times, a lot of turnovers, a lot

57:29

of dumb decisions. But my God, the link

57:31

that they have defensively and the

57:33

the instincts that they

57:35

have to, like, for for for for guys that, like, don't know how

57:37

to and and again, I say that just to say that, like,

57:40

they don't run a lot of set plays that that look

57:42

fluid. They're

57:44

not, like, well and and when they do run set place, it's not like a well timed thing

57:46

where, like, the the off ball screen is

57:48

happening at the right time, but this other guy

57:50

is cutting to

57:52

wear, like, a lot of kudos. It's just a lot of, like, chaos. But

57:54

they're instinct to just put their head

57:56

down and get a bucket is unmatched.

57:59

I mean, like, they they have a lot of guys that could do that. And I will

58:01

They're very good at it. I think that they have

58:04

this kind of it's a good thing where they,

58:06

eventually, as the game wears on, even though they

58:08

were, like, you said they're down

58:10

thirteen, sixteen, or whatever, they look

58:12

around and they say we are

58:14

more gifted than whoever we're

58:16

playing. Yeah. Like, we we are we are obviously more

58:18

gifted. And so that that

58:20

inherently will add confidence to you as you're playing

58:22

the game against the number one team in

58:24

the 1. And you're down thirteen,

58:26

but you say to yourself, while we're playing,

58:28

like, dumb shit, and we're down

58:30

thirteen. And all we have to do is, like, get it

58:32

together a little bit. I'm sure it's what NATO said to them. He's

58:34

like, guys, just lock in a

58:36

little bit. Like, we we can win this

58:38

game. And all of a sudden, it's like right there

58:40

for the taking. Houston gets tight. Like

58:42

you said, mean, you can blame the the mark going

58:44

out and and the fouling out all that stuff. But

58:46

at the end of the day, Kelvin Sams has said it

58:48

best. He was like, we

58:50

got exposed. Yeah. Exposed

58:52

today. We we thought that we were better than we

58:54

were. We thought they did coast to They

58:56

did coast. They did coast. They did coast. There was I

58:58

think it was Roberts had the had

59:00

a dunk I think John Roberts

59:02

did the the fake hand off.

59:04

Yeah. And then took the one dribble and flushed

59:06

it. And you cut to

59:08

the the the the bench and the Houston bench is, like, falling into each

59:10

other and lean in every way and the place is

59:12

going crazy. And I'm not saying it shouldn't

59:14

have been I, you

59:16

know, I'm not, like, trying to say, act like you've been

59:18

there, whatever. But

59:20

as I was re watching the game and that happens,

59:22

again, how did Alabama lose this game?

59:24

And I look at the clock and there's, like, seventeen minutes

59:26

later. There's, like, you know, there's, like, a ton

59:28

of time left. And I thought, the

59:30

vibes aren't quite like, that that's the celebration you do, and there's, like,

59:33

four minutes left -- Game over. -- game over. Like,

59:35

this is the the final deck. We've been listening to our

59:37

show where we watch and we

59:40

said that's That's good. Unfortunately, that's bad. And they did that

59:42

obviously prematurely, but it did feel like

59:44

Houston thought that the game

59:46

was over and they could

59:48

just coast

59:49

And,

59:50

yeah, that's that's obviously a problem. And and that's uncharacteristic of the

59:52

team built like Houston where they just

59:54

keep preaching toughness and -- Yeah. -- experience

59:56

and, like, you know -- Yeah. --

59:59

we're not

59:59

we're not not, you

1:00:00

know We're not the prettiest. We're gonna come

1:00:03

away with the win. Yeah. Exactly. In

1:00:05

Alabama, they they will like

1:00:07

an NBA team, I guess, six

1:00:10

to ten point lead for

1:00:12

Alabama is nothing.

1:00:13

Yeah. They they

1:00:14

they erased six point I mean, I saw with the

1:00:16

Carolina game. They erased six point leads like they're

1:00:18

nothing. Right? You you get a little excited. You

1:00:20

try to get a little bit comfortable.

1:00:23

You say, wow. Okay. Now we're now we're settled in. Now we're good.

1:00:25

And it's like, Sears just hit a three. Now they

1:00:27

just stole the ball. Now they got AN1 Now

1:00:29

the game's tied. I what what think there's

1:00:31

a element of that too is, like like BAM went on a little

1:00:33

bit of a run, and I think if you would have stopped the

1:00:36

game, cover the scoring as

1:00:38

Houston players. Like, what's the score?

1:00:40

Like, oh, we're still up, like, twelve, thirteen, whatever.

1:00:42

It's, like, dude, trip four.

1:00:44

Right. Right. Four. Right. It was time to lock

1:00:46

in. And and their best player

1:00:48

by talent. Right? Brandon Miller was basically, he was not

1:00:50

involved in the game until the last, like, five, six

1:00:52

minutes. I still believe in Houston,

1:00:54

though. III don't I don't I

1:00:56

like is good for you. I don't think

1:00:58

SaaS is a hundred percent. 1 I'm just making excuses

1:01:00

for him. Yeah. The eye thing in

1:01:02

his shoulder and, like, he's been

1:01:05

He's been beat up. The fact that he takes the

1:01:07

glasses off to shoot the free throws stresses

1:01:09

me out. I don't like that because you're basically

1:01:11

saying I can't see through these glasses.

1:01:13

Then you put them back on to play the rest of the game. And I'm

1:01:15

like, well, if if we can't see through the glasses, what are

1:01:17

we doing with the glass And they wiped them off a couple

1:01:19

times like they were fun enough. Yeah. I didn't I didn't

1:01:22

I got I get a bad read on that, but I did like it because Vince

1:01:24

Carter wore the glasses like that. And I'm I'm like

1:01:26

I like where SAS has had that. I mean, it

1:01:28

is It can't look cool, but I don't

1:01:30

think he I don't think he has the right fit. I don't think he

1:01:32

has the right fit. Face mask. Yes. I think you

1:01:34

go face mask. Right. I don't think he go glasses. I

1:01:36

think he's gotta go face mask. Or, like,

1:01:39

ski goggles. See, it's gotta be

1:01:41

something that it's gotta be it's

1:01:43

gotta be something that he could see anesthetic

1:01:46

Can you wear a helmet? Are you allowed to

1:01:48

wear a that's a good

1:01:50

question. What what

1:01:51

what are those

1:01:52

soft helmets that, like,

1:01:54

do they wear those in rugby? You know you know, like, the the the helmets that that NFL has

1:01:56

to wear now where they put the little caps

1:01:58

on top of the helmets? Yeah. But then

1:02:00

sometimes, like, you'll see, like,

1:02:03

I think it's rugby dudes. We're like, wear those as they're

1:02:05

playing rugby. It's like a little soft it's

1:02:08

the Peter Chek helmet, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1:02:10

Yeah. That's exactly right.

1:02:12

Yeah. Yeah. But he kinda heard his eyebrows. I don't know how that's

1:02:14

gonna solve that. I don't know if it's trying to think of,

1:02:16

like, how to protect that area without having to

1:02:17

wear the gloves. I don't like the gloves.

1:02:19

It'll probably happen a

1:02:21

lifetime where someone that has had a bunch of

1:02:24

concussions, wears one of those

1:02:26

helmets, like, on a basketball court, you know?

1:02:28

Like,

1:02:28

that a brian that'll probably happen. It'll

1:02:30

play for BYU. Right. I I that that's I see

1:02:32

it in my head that it's Like SpencerHA

1:02:34

or SpencerHA! TylerHA! I

1:02:36

see BYU or I see Cal.

1:02:39

And it's like it's like actually a part of his

1:02:41

research that he's working on while

1:02:43

he's playing on the team for Kevin. Yeah. Yeah. I

1:02:45

see, like, a Tyler haws type dude.

1:02:47

We're 1 of those can see Tyler

1:02:49

Hall's wearing one of

1:02:52

those.

1:02:52

I've missed that guy.

1:02:54

Bring it on. What

1:02:55

other games? Arizona, Indiana? Did you watch that one?

1:02:57

No. No. That was fun game

1:03:00

in. Fun game. Yeah.

1:03:02

I like the fight of India, and I like that they came

1:03:04

back in this game, but let's just be honest. Arizona,

1:03:06

there's nobody that's gonna stop Barlow and

1:03:08

Tubales when they're playing like that. I mean,

1:03:10

there there really is not anyone that's gonna stop

1:03:13

them. I I The way that tubales runs

1:03:15

the court is something I mean,

1:03:17

it's like He's incredible. He's giving me

1:03:19

Tyler Zeller vibes.

1:03:22

He's incredible. The way he's running the court. And I'm like, this guy this

1:03:24

guy beat Trey Jackson Davis

1:03:26

down the court, Titus, every

1:03:28

single freaking time. Yeah. Every

1:03:32

time. I was wondering when Trey Jackson Davis was gonna finally figure it

1:03:34

out and try to beat him down the court. He

1:03:36

did not. Mhmm. And Dubellis got

1:03:38

him. And Balo was a tough

1:03:40

matchup for

1:03:42

him having race onto Bellis and him having a guard battle. I

1:03:44

mean, that was just a bad matchup all around. You

1:03:46

got two fours playing two fives.

1:03:48

Yeah. That's bad matchup. Bad

1:03:50

matchup. And and

1:03:52

Arizona is the only thing that

1:03:53

can stop Arizona is Kirk Risa.

1:03:56

You're you're right.

1:03:56

And and I guess his own

1:03:58

of his own volition where he he

1:03:59

actively does stupid stuff in Raffery, the whole

1:04:02

game, kept calling him Krissa, kept

1:04:04

calling

1:04:05

him Krisa. That was what he -- Yeah. -- he couldn't say his

1:04:07

name. Right? And I thought because he's the curve part was

1:04:09

probably He's he's mashed it all together, Kirk. What did

1:04:11

he say? I think he was doing it on

1:04:14

purpose because Kirk is good

1:04:16

enough to act the way that he does. Like, Bill

1:04:18

Rhapsody doesn't even know your name. Yeah. You're acting great.

1:04:20

Like, you run college basketball and you're J. J.

1:04:22

Reddy, or you're, like,

1:04:24

one of these like, No one knows you 1 not

1:04:26

one of the ones. You're not one yet. You couldn't

1:04:28

be. But you're acting that way already. And

1:04:30

I still think there is a I

1:04:32

still think there's there's a situation with Arizona where they

1:04:35

do have the best frontcourt. I think they are

1:04:37

the most talented team, but they could shoot themselves out

1:04:39

of a game, any game. Cruising

1:04:41

that worries about Cree I think Creeza is is how they

1:04:43

lose games. I think that you could

1:04:45

you could check them at

1:04:47

times their

1:04:48

defensive Right. They

1:04:50

they love getting legally. They don't. Yeah. Yeah. But,

1:04:53

you know, we we

1:04:55

we love we you

1:04:57

said earlier about the recruiting class and now there's so many number

1:04:59

ones. I'll throw another number one. You you 1 once

1:05:01

upon a time, Arizona, the number one team

1:05:03

in the country. I

1:05:05

will say this. They are absolutely number 1,

1:05:07

most fun thing. Right.

1:05:08

No question about it. If you're if you're

1:05:10

a neutral fan and you just wanna watch

1:05:12

just

1:05:12

a a random basketball game, and you're not sure which college basketball game to

1:05:15

watch. Just pick the Arizona game. And it's gonna be you're

1:05:17

gonna have a good time. And then you're

1:05:19

gonna have fun. Don't

1:05:21

know if Arizona's gonna win, but you're going

1:05:23

to have fun watching them. They play fast. They're

1:05:25

off they they are definitively the best

1:05:27

offensive team in the country. By far. Yeah. I don't

1:05:29

I don't think it's, like They put us pretty simple. Probably second, I guess. I don't even

1:05:31

know who else would be in the conversation.

1:05:33

Like, exact is not. ZAGG

1:05:35

is usually up there. Krayton's usually up there, Villanova's usually

1:05:38

up there. But we're talking it's not them. We're talking

1:05:40

about them. I mean, they can run you they can

1:05:42

run you out of the gym. I mean, that that's kinda

1:05:44

what was happening in this game early in Indiana

1:05:46

caught their breath. I think one thing that

1:05:48

stood out to me about Indiana, and I still think

1:05:50

Indiana is good.

1:05:52

I still still think AIU is gonna be good. I've I've had to talk a lot of people off ledge

1:05:54

in in in Indiana, but III

1:05:57

still think AIU is gonna be good. The

1:05:59

problem that AIU has is

1:06:01

IU doesn't know what type of good team they

1:06:03

wanna be. Mhmm. IU doesn't so you're watching

1:06:06

this game and all I'm thinking the whole

1:06:08

time I'm watching it is this is the game

1:06:10

Arizona wants to play. They're growing up and down. It's like

1:06:12

a lot of baskets being made. It's fun. Everyone's

1:06:14

having 1. But I'm also like,

1:06:16

this is this

1:06:16

is what Arizona wants. And then it dawned on me as as

1:06:18

Arizona builds a big lead and then, you know,

1:06:20

I comes back and the yoyo went to

1:06:22

happen in the Arizona. What did they went by

1:06:25

fourteen, fifteen, something like that? Fourteen.

1:06:27

So Arizona ones by fourteen. It dawned on

1:06:29

me at no point in time. At the

1:06:31

whole

1:06:31

time, I'm saying, this is the game

1:06:34

Arizona ones. I

1:06:34

don't even know what what kind of game Indiana wants.

1:06:36

You know? Right. So, like, what what

1:06:38

is the alternative? As you're watching, you're saying, this

1:06:41

is what Arizona 1. What

1:06:43

does Indiana need to do to make it a game that this is what they want? I don't even

1:06:45

know what the answer is. And I guess that's

1:06:47

the next step for Indiana as

1:06:49

a this collective that

1:06:52

Indiana has is I think they all came into the season

1:06:54

saying we are a good basketball team. And

1:06:56

I think that assessment is correct.

1:06:59

They have

1:06:59

a ton of talent. They can

1:07:00

be a lot of different things. You can catch

1:07:03

them on one night and they're hitting a ton of shots and

1:07:05

they I think there's a world where they've

1:07:07

run at the exact they they run with Arizona in the exact same

1:07:09

pace, and they're hitting that night.

1:07:10

And you have Hood Chaffino playing. And he's like,

1:07:12

you know, this is this is like an NBA

1:07:15

scout game for him almost. And he's

1:07:17

just going off and the the free vibes of this game. Like,

1:07:19

it's it's just a playground for him

1:07:21

and he kills it. In

1:07:23

Indiana wins. I think there there is a timeline where that could have

1:07:26

happened. But I

1:07:27

think Indiana's

1:07:28

problem is they they don't know what like,

1:07:30

going into a game when you say,

1:07:32

this is the game that Indiana wants. What is what does that even look like? Is it are

1:07:34

they trying to slow it down and feed the post and

1:07:36

and just feed Trey Shacks and Davis also? Yeah.

1:07:38

I don't I think that's that's

1:07:41

what that's what they used to be. I don't think that's

1:07:43

what they wanna be anymore, and that don't think they

1:07:45

should be. Mhmm. I

1:07:46

think I think they got us. That's

1:07:49

yeah. So I think, like, up

1:07:50

until this year, they they thought the way we have to win games

1:07:52

is fee trace Jackson Davis and and mock it

1:07:55

up on defense. And that's like how we're gonna

1:07:57

win. And now they realize one,

1:07:59

you're not gonna win a lot of games that way. Two, we don't

1:08:01

wanna do that. We would rather be play a more

1:08:04

aesthetically pleasing style

1:08:06

of basketball.

1:08:06

But they don't

1:08:07

know what they want. That's the issue, I think, but then you

1:08:10

I I think

1:08:10

they have no idea who they are. I I

1:08:12

think there's an identity crisis because I

1:08:14

think that there is the the trace Jackson Davis race thompson way of doing things, which is

1:08:17

let's slow this game down. Let's post up.

1:08:19

Mhmm. Let's run some high

1:08:21

low stuff with

1:08:23

with these two. And then

1:08:24

when you watched this game, this game was

1:08:26

up and down. That's why Bates mattered. I thought Bates was great. Bates was awesome. Yeah.

1:08:29

I I think

1:08:31

in that game, Galloway could play in that game,

1:08:33

Bates could play in that game, Hutchifino could play in that game, X could play in that game. I mean,

1:08:35

he ended up having to double double, so he ended up

1:08:37

having a good night. I mean, race had had a

1:08:40

good night when

1:08:42

you look at the numbers. But in general, it

1:08:44

felt like Indiana was upset

1:08:46

that

1:08:46

they were having to

1:08:49

run with these big and play with

1:08:51

these bigs up and down. And they were

1:08:53

like, I wanna, like, slow it down and

1:08:55

let let's set up the offense side of die.

1:08:57

And Arizona's like, no. Take the ball the bat

1:08:59

and then we go. And they were like, it's it

1:09:01

it was like, when we play golf and it was a lot of wind. And I was like, I

1:09:03

don't even wanna play. Yes. Right?

1:09:05

That that that is like

1:09:08

what it like with Indiana. They're like, oh,

1:09:10

they're not playing. They're not even playing how we wanna play. I don't really wanna play. I don't wanna play like this. Yeah. I don't wanna

1:09:12

be out here in this

1:09:14

mode. On top of that, You're

1:09:17

you're absolutely right about that. But then the follow-up question, I would then ask him would be okay.

1:09:19

So how do you wanna play? Right. I don't think they have an answer.

1:09:21

I don't think they have an answer.

1:09:23

I I think 1 think

1:09:26

the young guys haven't answered. They wanna play how Arizona

1:09:28

was playing. I think, like, Bates and Hutchfield and those guys can play

1:09:30

out. Yeah. But that's not that's not what Trey Jackson Davis.

1:09:34

Yeah. That's not what he wants. No. I I was watching

1:09:36

the the, you know, watching the Houston Bama game

1:09:38

even. That had the the the tenor of

1:09:41

for most of the game

1:09:43

until

1:09:43

Mark files out. That was the exact kind

1:09:45

of whether Houston is going to win or not, that was played

1:09:47

on Houston's terms. Yes. This is a game that

1:09:49

this this feels like a game

1:09:52

that Houston Houston is imposing their will. This

1:09:54

is exactly what they wanted to come They dictated the terms. And I think that's an issue with Indiana right now

1:09:58

as you don't know what

1:09:59

optimistic approach to that is they are

1:10:02

malleable. They are, like, they I

1:10:04

do think they

1:10:05

could play in a muck it up game and

1:10:07

succeed. They can win those. They could play their again, I I do think

1:10:09

they could play Arizona and then say tournament and win

1:10:11

a game ninety four to

1:10:13

eighty six. Absolutely. I think

1:10:16

they could. They learned a lesson in this game,

1:10:18

at least I hope so. But I think moving forward, Indiana has to get to a

1:10:19

point where they say, this is

1:10:23

our plan a. We

1:10:24

were trying to win these games in this manner.

1:10:26

Mhmm. And if we can't, we'll adapt to what we're throw

1:10:28

what's thrown at us, but this is what we're try this

1:10:30

is the will we are trying to impose. Right

1:10:34

now, I don't think they're trying to impose you well. I

1:10:36

think they're just saying, we have a good team. Let's figure out what that looks like. Throw

1:10:38

the team out on the floor and and go the way we go, you know.

1:10:40

So That's

1:10:42

my real I like Galloway's confidence by

1:10:44

the way. Galloway's awesome. I'm really happy to see him

1:10:46

playing. I'm on the trade trade for sure. Yeah. Yeah. He's

1:10:48

he's incredible. But You're present on this Arizona

1:10:50

is not going away. If if you

1:10:52

thought Arizona, losing a Utah was like, okay, we we

1:10:54

can be done with this team. I guess

1:10:56

they're frauds. Maybe they were on that night,

1:10:59

but they're they they are very, very good. They're very good. What's crazy right now is

1:11:02

that if you ask me

1:11:04

who do you wanna see play each other as the

1:11:06

top two teams? I wanna see Yukon play Arizona. Because I wanna see Sonoco play

1:11:09

Balu. And they're both

1:11:11

from Bali. We got We

1:11:14

got Arizona Tennessee on Saturday. Right. That's gonna do so. Tennessee is could we talk about Tennessee Maryland a little

1:11:16

bit -- Yeah. -- ugly game.

1:11:18

I don't really wanna talk about

1:11:22

I guess I wanna talk about Tennessee. I wanna

1:11:24

talk about Tennessee. Maryland was two for

1:11:26

twenty four from three. Shout out to

1:11:28

Will Warren and and our old

1:11:30

colleague Roger Sherman at the putting this

1:11:32

on my radar that they were using the

1:11:34

spalding TF1 thousand, which is then I

1:11:37

I don't I don't know how to Scribe. You

1:11:39

it's a shitty basketball. Yeah. Very, very shitty basketball. As you said that.

1:11:41

Yeah. And Marilyn shot two for twenty three from three

1:11:43

in this game. And

1:11:46

I don't know if the basketball to blame or I don't know if

1:11:49

Tennessee's defense to blame. Tennessee

1:11:51

plays elite elite defense. They it's

1:11:53

not just that they are good

1:11:56

at at the

1:11:56

thing that stood

1:11:57

out to me watching them, I'll I'll I'll say it this

1:11:59

way. The way they recover is incredible. The

1:12:02

way Guys are beat. Maryland has open layouts. And at the

1:12:05

last second, like, a late challenge comes to, like,

1:12:07

either block the shot or, like, you know,

1:12:09

there's a Maryland was missing a

1:12:11

lot of easy shots. That

1:12:13

I think Marilyn fans probably came away from this saying, how do we how are we

1:12:15

missing all these easy shots? Like, this is somewhat

1:12:17

a characteristic. Give me another

1:12:19

crack at Tennessee. We

1:12:22

will make those easy shots. We will blow them out. We are definitely a better team. And Tennessee fans are coming away from that game saying,

1:12:24

you miss the easy shots

1:12:26

because every single team that plays

1:12:30

misses easy shots because -- That's what we do. -- that's what we do. Yeah.

1:12:32

Well, you you thought it was easy, but at the last

1:12:34

second, we challenged the shot in a way that

1:12:37

you're not used to. And They they they rotate

1:12:39

so well. They they're so balanced offensively

1:12:41

as well. They're an interesting team, dude. Like,

1:12:44

I And they have the guard play.

1:12:46

Really, best could be. I mean, they they have Zeigler.

1:12:48

I mean, these guys are legit guns.

1:12:50

Zeigler got moved to the bench, I think,

1:12:52

after the Colorado game -- Yes. -- Tyree

1:12:54

key's starting for him. And I think the idea was to inject some offense because this is gonna be

1:12:56

the issue with this team. All years just like, we we

1:12:59

I'm gonna trust their defense. You they they

1:13:01

could give up a hundred points to

1:13:03

Arizona. Arizona could blow out

1:13:06

in Tucson. And since in Arizona, could could hit twelve threes -- Mhmm. -- and shoot fifty eight

1:13:08

percent from the floor and just look

1:13:10

like untouchable and win by twenty one.

1:13:15

1 a hundred and ten on him or something. I will not be

1:13:17

concerned with Tennessee's defense at any point this season. Right.

1:13:19

I'll I'll I could I

1:13:21

could watch that whole game and I could say, that's an

1:13:23

anomaly. I'm not worried moving forward. Their defense is fine.

1:13:25

The concern will always be the

1:13:28

offense. I mean,

1:13:28

find me

1:13:29

another team that won a game

1:13:32

that shot twenty eight percent from the field, thirty

1:13:34

three percent from three, and fifty two percent from the free throw line. And it won the game.

1:13:37

Yeah. You

1:13:39

won't find it. Yeah. Because that's I mean, that

1:13:41

that is that is ridiculous. That is so poor. That is so bad. That is insane that that

1:13:43

could happen. But at the

1:13:46

end of the day, like, it's

1:13:48

kind of what it was with with Bennett Ball where

1:13:50

Virginia fans early on. They're like, I like watching the Pac Lion defense. Right. I'm

1:13:52

watching a different side of the

1:13:55

field. If you're Chicago bears fan in

1:13:57

the eighty your eighties, you're like, I don't wanna

1:13:59

see Jim McMahon. I wanna I wanna watch our defense. Right? And that is what Tennessee fans are

1:13:59

doing. They're like, watch how amazing

1:14:02

we are on defense. Watch these

1:14:04

rotations. Watch these

1:14:06

deal. Like, watch how we play defense, and that is what the brand is. And hopefully, we enough

1:14:08

on the other They're

1:14:10

they're great on the offensive boards.

1:14:14

Right. They they share rebounding in general.

1:14:16

They they share the ball well. They they

1:14:18

have a lot of balance scoring. I think,

1:14:20

like, five dudes or average in double figures

1:14:23

for him. So all of those things are nice and I like

1:14:25

that about their offense, they are still the masters

1:14:27

of mock. There's still like,

1:14:29

there's the

1:14:30

every Tennessee game I've scene

1:14:32

is just like an absolute mock fest. And

1:14:34

that's how they like it. And that's,

1:14:35

you know, talking about AI

1:14:37

not having an identity. Tennessee has

1:14:40

an identity. I I'm

1:14:42

I'm sort of trying to figure out what I need to see from this Tennessee team to

1:14:44

start like putting together the the

1:14:47

belief in them in March. Now

1:14:51

last year, I I said over and over that they're they're a good team at

1:14:53

home. Can we see it outside of home? We

1:14:55

have seen it

1:14:58

outside of home. Right. We're gonna we're gonna see a lot more opportunities, and the FCC

1:15:00

is super interesting to me, by the way. I think

1:15:02

the FCC might be the most in

1:15:06

terms of, like, the top level.

1:15:08

Who's gonna win the conference? Right. The

1:15:10

FCC is the most interesting conference, I think.

1:15:12

It's more interesting than the Big twelve. I don't think

1:15:14

the Big twelve has as many title contenders. I

1:15:16

think the big ten is super deep, obviously. It's interesting

1:15:18

in the sense that Nebraska can take

1:15:21

Purdue over time

1:15:23

and, jumps out and she was like, whoa,

1:15:25

Nebraska. I thought they reduction. They're taking Purdue. Or, like, that's interesting that any given night anybody can

1:15:27

beat anybody. But I don't

1:15:30

know, man. Alabama's looking really

1:15:32

good. Tennessee looks really

1:15:34

good. Arkansas is a team. I I, you know, Brazil's out for the year, but I Arkansas is

1:15:40

very much going to be heard from

1:15:42

at some point in this SEC title race. Kentucky as well, I I Yeah.

1:15:44

We can't write off Kentucky. We have not

1:15:46

written off Kentucky yet. I don't think Kentucky's

1:15:50

good as they were last year, but they're still have the the

1:15:52

reigning national player of the year. All

1:15:54

burns. All burns up there. Mhmm.

1:15:57

This is a pretty state dude. I think Mississippi State is

1:15:59

in in, you know, I don't think they're the favorites. I don't

1:16:01

think they should be the favorites. Understood. Right?

1:16:03

If Mississippi State is in in, you

1:16:06

know, a game, a back of first

1:16:08

place, in mid February, I won't

1:16:10

be surprised. Right. Someone else might be. At this point, I've seen enough to be like, no, 1 surprise me. LSU

1:16:12

is they're not they're not

1:16:14

gonna wait. At this point, we're

1:16:18

down to the tier of teams that aren't gonna win. But, like, even

1:16:20

like a Florida and A and M and

1:16:22

LSU and Olmiss. And, like, all these teams

1:16:24

are Mizzoo. Dude, Mizzoo is on 1 feed until Kansas

1:16:26

beat their ass, but I don't know. The the SCC is super interesting. I guess,

1:16:29

I as I was watching

1:16:31

BAM and watching Tennessee, they're

1:16:33

two teams that are flawed. Very obviously flawed, but very

1:16:36

obviously good. Mhmm. And it's

1:16:38

just gonna be fascinating to

1:16:40

watch watch how

1:16:41

it all shakes out, I guess.

1:16:43

I don't know. That's why it's just the most interesting because there's it's teams that I say these team holy

1:16:45

shit. These teams are so good and they're not even

1:16:47

close to their

1:16:49

ceilings yet. That that's what I came away from. This week in

1:16:51

Washington, Tennessee and Yeah. Bama is gonna be really

1:16:54

scary. And especially when someone tells

1:16:57

Brandon Miller that he has the green

1:16:59

light and that he starts with him, I think. And

1:17:01

maybe that doesn't happen as he's a

1:17:04

freshman, but NATO eventually is gonna have to

1:17:06

give that kid the ball and he is

1:17:08

a star. He gives me

1:17:10

Jabari Smith fives, but Oh, yeah. That's a good call. Just I have Jordan James, by the way, for Tennessee, has had problems

1:17:12

in his, like, in and out of

1:17:14

the lineup and then play against Maryland. And

1:17:19

He's their best defender. He's probably the most notable -- He's

1:17:21

player. -- maybe their best player. Right. Yeah.

1:17:23

But that's the thing I was gonna

1:17:25

say with Tennessee is, like, they don't really have

1:17:27

a guy. Yeah. could be my best could

1:17:29

be Zeigler i. Zeigler can be.

1:17:31

Zeigler Yeah. There was a

1:17:33

leading score in this game off

1:17:36

the bench. Me. They're bringing off a niche now, which I

1:17:38

don't I don't love, but I don't hate. Yeah. I know I kinda like it. I'm like, why has this been

1:17:42

up starting, but then he plays enough minutes and has enough of an impact on the game.

1:17:44

I'm like, alright. Well, if you're two point cards, so you're

1:17:46

like, let's just stagger these guys. Why not? It works?

1:17:50

Alright. I think that's that's it. Oh,

1:17:52

Ohio State Rutgers. That happened.

1:17:55

We recall on Thursday and

1:17:57

then the Ohio stay oh, stay one at

1:17:59

the moment. I watch that line. I watch that whole I

1:18:01

I mean, I have people texted me, like, sorry, Mark, you

1:18:03

know, till Titus, I'm sorry. This is where the game was over,

1:18:05

you know. The people are already right. Like you said, haters were

1:18:07

they were they were ready to jump on. Yeah. Like, at Caroline,

1:18:09

people reached out to me, oh, I wish her a house.

1:18:11

It was misday ring till we play

1:18:13

them, you know. And then all of a sudden, well, hit the shaft.

1:18:15

Great news. Yeah. Like, when they bring it on. When they bring

1:18:18

it on. When they bring it on to

1:18:20

three. No. You're right, man. I

1:18:22

who who knew there's so many rules

1:18:24

for a time. Right. I can't I can't deal

1:18:26

with that. That's like because even in the moment when he hit the shot, I didn't

1:18:28

immediately say, think to myself,

1:18:30

oh, was he out of bounds?

1:18:33

And granted, you know, we get it.

1:18:35

The rules for the reason that makes sense, but at the

1:18:37

same time,

1:18:37

let it play. Yeah. And the argument the argument was being

1:18:40

made

1:18:40

that he

1:18:43

stepped out of bounds on the pass by the coach. You

1:18:45

know what I mean? By the opposing coach. A lot

1:18:47

of people were saying -- Yeah. -- because he

1:18:49

went right to the ref and they were

1:18:51

like, he's arguing that, you know, donna, I was

1:18:53

like, no. He was arguing that the past, the foot was out of bounds on the line, not that anyone came out

1:18:55

of bounds in his chest. I'm really scared to

1:18:58

say anything because I'm gonna be a hypocrite

1:19:00

about you

1:19:02

know. So I don't it's too close. It's too close.

1:19:04

Because there's gonna be another instance this year where

1:19:07

I argue the exact opposite. Yeah. Where it

1:19:09

happens it happens the other. It happens the other way

1:19:11

I see this is bullshit. Hail gloves out of bounds. He gets

1:19:13

the pass. But

1:19:15

no. I I the i

1:19:18

it

1:19:18

it it it I I I'm

1:19:20

I a hundred percent, and this is this is me being

1:19:22

genuine. I did not know that that was a rule

1:19:25

that you can't because I I can't tell you how many

1:19:27

times you see it in basketball. Take where a

1:19:29

ball it happens on the baseline where the

1:19:33

like 1 rebound happens ball hits the rim, bounces

1:19:35

on the ground. There's a guy who's standing

1:19:37

underneath out of out of out

1:19:39

of bounds. Does it quick 1 two's

1:19:42

double tap to get in bounds and then grab the rebound.

1:19:44

Yeah. And it

1:19:44

never is called. And I guess

1:19:46

maybe that's a different situation because it's a

1:19:48

shot. I don't but the point is, like,

1:19:50

I did

1:19:51

like, I guess, I knew you can't, like, just

1:19:53

blatantly run out of bounds

1:19:54

and, like, do, like, a baseline runner

1:19:56

where you're just, like, like, football. Yeah. Running

1:19:58

into the stands with the band and then popping out the outside. Like, I guess, like yeah.

1:20:01

That makes sense

1:20:04

to me. Well, if you

1:20:06

put a gun in my head and ask what the rule was, I thought if you have both feet down now, then that becomes

1:20:08

the second question is, like, did

1:20:10

he even have both feet down?

1:20:14

You know, then then you then you start getting into the screenshot

1:20:16

pros where they're, you know Yeah. Absolutely.

1:20:18

All that and all that kind of

1:20:22

thing. Anyway, I I don't know, man. It feels good to be hated. I say that

1:20:24

because if the roles are reversed and and

1:20:26

Rutgers hits that shot, you're not here to

1:20:28

peep from anybody. You're like, man, what a

1:20:30

great story that Rutgers team is. Right.

1:20:33

And nobody's saying like, man, I I feel terrible for Ohio State. It feels

1:20:35

good to be hated. That's all I'm gonna say. That means that's how you know you're around

1:20:37

Yeah. That means that you're a real top

1:20:39

twenty five program. Board.

1:20:41

Everybody wanted to see the Buckeyes go down. I get it. I get it. You got a taste with football. We're not football,

1:20:43

baby. We're not. I'm

1:20:44

sorry to But nobody's basketball programs not

1:20:46

the football. What's so sad is

1:20:47

that they didn't and

1:20:51

they won't even show the Like like, I was watching sports center after

1:20:53

the fact and they show, like, the game, and

1:20:56

then they immediately go to

1:20:58

him out of bounds and the

1:21:00

pixelated. Shot. I'm like, can

1:21:02

you show me Trying to take it trying to take this moment away from this poor kid tamer holding -- Right. -- score a

1:21:04

point the whole game -- Right. --

1:21:06

was was lightened up and right state

1:21:11

last year, transfers Ohio state isn't scoring as much as, you know,

1:21:13

it's like been a weird year for him

1:21:15

probably individually. Finally gets his

1:21:17

moment. He's like, this is why I transfer here

1:21:19

my my this life decision I made makes so much sense now. Mhmm. I'm so

1:21:21

happy for this. I can't wait to see what

1:21:24

the Internet has to say

1:21:26

to be like, good job, Tanner.

1:21:28

Well done. No. Just haters everywhere, dude.

1:21:30

Everywhere. Everywhere. Everywhere. So it goes. So congratulations

1:21:32

to the Buc guys,

1:21:34

though. Number twenty three in You take

1:21:36

them where you can get them in. I did I I did love

1:21:38

the the message that Big Ten put out, which, like, they thought they were helping, but all it

1:21:42

is is twisting the knife. Were the big tens, like, that was the wrong call. Rutgers

1:21:44

should have won. And every Rutgers fan was like,

1:21:46

1, did we win? They're like, no. No.

1:21:48

No. No. No.

1:21:51

We would not. I think the NBA whenever they put

1:21:53

out the record record, you're like, they're like, Steph Curry traveled on the final play for the game win win

1:21:55

three. You're like, what?

1:21:58

So take take

1:21:59

take away play that. Right? They're

1:22:02

like, no. No. We're not gonna do that. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

1:22:04

No. No. No.

1:22:10

That was fun. That was a that was a I

1:22:12

don't know. It was it was a this

1:22:14

is why you watch December College Basketball moment.

1:22:16

Right. Sure. This is, like, you know, sometimes you're

1:22:18

you're watching these, you know, records records is a good team. They're they're a mock off team though too. They

1:22:20

they're they're they're a

1:22:22

big time mock team, but

1:22:25

sometimes you're watching these games in December against the team that's not exactly the most glamorous, most

1:22:27

fun, and and, you know, Ohio State's

1:22:31

not playing well. And you're kinda shitting

1:22:33

away the ending and you're and I'm sitting on the couch just like, why do I do this to myself? You know, like, as

1:22:35

as I saw the wheels

1:22:40

falling off, don't

1:22:40

I just turn off the TV? You're like, go for a while. Like, why

1:22:42

why do you do this? Why? And then you get to the shot and you're like, I'll be doing this

1:22:46

one. That's fine. Yeah. Next time around, we're gonna play, like, shit against, like, Penn

1:22:48

State at home. And I'm gonna say, Tainer Holton

1:22:50

might run out of bounds and then catch

1:22:53

it for the three year mother. That's gotta keep watching

1:22:55

coach running back. Same play. That's what we do.

1:22:57

Shout out to a Holman, by the way, very

1:22:59

j right reaction to the

1:23:01

shot, where it didn't really do much. Because I think in his

1:23:03

mind, he like, he was out of bounds. Yeah.

1:23:06

He was, like, that gave me a

1:23:08

shot. No. Holman was, like, that

1:23:10

is not the play I drew up.

1:23:12

Like -- Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. -- fuck these kids. Not running the play. I want them to run.

1:23:14

Yeah. Do you mean do you think he had to run sprints? Do you think the guys had to run sprints? Because the whole

1:23:17

man was like, that's not

1:23:19

what we drew up. All. That would

1:23:21

be very that would be very coach game move. I just thought it was a great

1:23:23

moment and it was very like a pure college

1:23:24

basketball chaos moment and

1:23:26

then it just sucks that immediately

1:23:29

because of Twitter and everything else. It was

1:23:31

like -- Yeah. -- let's let's analyze the

1:23:33

tape also. You didn't know rule b thirty

1:23:35

7CF21 that said

1:23:37

that It is I do think you're screenshotting. I

1:23:39

do think the rulebook is like the dictionary where if you're screenshotting it

1:23:41

in an argument on Twitter,

1:23:43

you've already lost. Right.

1:23:46

Whether you're right, it doesn't even matter anymore. It's like

1:23:48

it's like you're at the point that

1:23:51

you're screenshotting and you're, like,

1:23:53

arguing this out. If we're in the court of

1:23:55

law, like, you've you've lost? Yeah. You've lost

1:23:57

your way. Yeah. So if you're if

1:23:59

you're screenshotting the definition

1:24:01

of I don't know.

1:24:04

Condesending. You're like, I said, the word I chose

1:24:06

was condescending. I did not say they are

1:24:08

rude. I said they are condescending. It

1:24:10

is different. There's a difference. And you're, like, screenshotting definitions and

1:24:12

arguments, you know, doesn't matter if you're right.

1:24:14

You're you've you've already lost you. That's

1:24:16

where I was at with the rule

1:24:19

book thing. And I think Also,

1:24:21

if the rules are reversed, I'm gonna say the exact opposite. And I'm gonna say

1:24:23

that records was out of bounds. Does it look And I think that's totally fair. Because that's

1:24:25

what a fan of us. That's what

1:24:27

it is, baby. Any

1:24:31

shoutouts before we go? Yeah. Quick shout out

1:24:32

to Virginia Tech. Virginia Tech won

1:24:34

in the Barclays Center against Oklahoma

1:24:37

State this weekend we talked about on our shift.

1:24:39

Doubleheader with the Maryland, Tennessee. Right? Yeah. Exactly.

1:24:42

It was the first game. So anyways,

1:24:44

Virginia Tech is a team that now

1:24:46

ranked in the top twenty five. should

1:24:48

have been in the top twenty five. So I'm

1:24:50

happy to see that shout out to mister November getting the wins, but also we talked about MSG.

1:24:54

Who owns MSG? We've gotten the people route up online. Billinova

1:24:57

fans are attacking con

1:24:59

Connecticut fans. There there's

1:25:01

been some Kentucky fans jumping

1:25:03

in saying they actually own MSG. This

1:25:05

is because all the Knicks players, I guess, that played at

1:25:08

Kentucky. Okay.

1:25:11

And that connection. I have no idea how that works, but a lot of conversation

1:25:13

about who owns MSG. I'm gonna leave that to

1:25:15

the side because I don't

1:25:18

care. Who owns Barclays Center? Because it's

1:25:19

not the Brooklyn Nets. Okay. And after Virginia Tech

1:25:21

beat coach k in the ACC

1:25:24

tournament championship

1:25:26

last year, famously to not beat anybody else on

1:25:28

the way just for in the championship game

1:25:30

and beat coach k in that championship

1:25:32

game. I think they might own Barclays center.

1:25:34

I think it's Virginia Tech building. That's a great

1:25:37

idea. That. We're gonna put that. Virginia

1:25:39

Tech is Barclays Center or

1:25:41

JZ0I don't know. I don't know. Who

1:25:43

else could even be on the running? Nobody. Because everyone is

1:25:45

like,

1:25:46

it's very flavor of the

1:25:48

month. What

1:25:51

I would say, who owns the Barclays Center. Right? It's ever who who's

1:25:53

ever hot at the moment? Yeah. Owns the Barclays Center.

1:25:55

It's Virginia territory. Right now, it's it's the

1:25:57

Hoaches. So there you go. Shout to

1:25:59

the Hoaches. I wanna shout out did

1:26:02

I have shout out, Rick Catino to Georgetown. III was thinking about

1:26:04

that the other day. I I

1:26:06

typed that out and hit send on

1:26:09

text to somebody. I just put Bettina to Georgetown hit, and I just wanna see what it looked like. I just wanna see. And I

1:26:11

think it looks good. I need to photoshop it,

1:26:14

I think. I I think I need

1:26:16

to my

1:26:19

Photoshop skills, dude. I

1:26:20

don't wanna pat myself on the back too much, but holy

1:26:22

shit. You're right. I'm I'm in the You better

1:26:25

than Jim? Oh, I'm one of the ones right

1:26:27

now. Shop. I really am. Like, I'm seeing the ball so well. Captain edits. Yeah.

1:26:29

Watch out. Dude, I'm seeing the ball.

1:26:31

Oh, well. I'm fucking I'm

1:26:34

raking right now with the Photoshop.

1:26:36

I

1:26:37

did one to you, dude. You were so victim

1:26:39

to it. That's why I'm doing free of fire. I never know when you're online. I'm just 1

1:26:44

do that too. Like, I'll just, like, a

1:26:46

long off for, like, three days. I'll just suddenly I pop up and I'm just, like, oh, like, oh, shit. Oh, shit.

1:26:52

It's back. I did a I'm I'm on my I'm

1:26:54

on the my phone last night. Watch

1:26:58

the charges gave and

1:27:00

What a game for my charters? Gottlieb tweets a picture

1:27:02

that he's at the game. Did you tweet at the game? Is Gottlieb a season ticket

1:27:04

holder? Because that's a difference.

1:27:06

That's that's a different level. And

1:27:10

I didn't mean for it to be that mean,

1:27:12

dude, but I put your head on Gottlieb's kid and then tweeted at

1:27:14

you. Yeah. And I thought it was like a kind of funny

1:27:16

thing. When

1:27:18

I had people react and they were like, dude, that's vicious,

1:27:20

what you just did to date. And I was like, I guess it

1:27:22

was. And then I was double check and then I was

1:27:24

like, I don't wanna delete it, and then I was like, I

1:27:26

reach out to you. So I'm sorry, buddy. It's alright. It's more just

1:27:29

like, I don't want people to think Doug's

1:27:31

my dad, you know. Doug is not

1:27:33

my dad. I just wanna put that on the record.

1:27:35

Man. I'm just, like, I did this Photoshop. I've I've you've you've got

1:27:37

a lost I'm a lose candidate, man. I really

1:27:39

am, and I'm just I'm sorry. I just

1:27:41

I totally apologize. I I didn't mean for

1:27:43

a beautiful victim. You found where

1:27:45

the crosshairs accidentally. But I gotta work on a Rick Matino to Georgetown Photoshop. Apologies,

1:27:47

Deluvol people. It's okay. I'm trying to meme them deluvol.

1:27:49

I am. But at the same time, I'm just

1:27:52

trying to if

1:27:55

if I'm being completely honest, I'm just trying to meme Rick back to

1:27:57

prominence. I'm trying to meme Rick back

1:27:59

to a a program that

1:28:01

he can win a national title at. And I don't

1:28:03

know. I think George sounds one of them. And a perfect example of

1:28:05

why we have to do this is our friend Parker,

1:28:07

CBK report. He

1:28:09

just is just shooting out memes. Right?

1:28:12

And he's just like asking questions. And he

1:28:14

wanted the ones I just saw right now,

1:28:17

best coaches of the decade in college

1:28:19

basketball, he has five on the list. He Okay. Let me

1:28:21

guess. J write j

1:28:23

write. Yes. Tony

1:28:26

Bennett? Yes. Roy

1:28:27

Williams? Yes. He probably could

1:28:29

put coach k

1:28:30

on there? Yes. And then

1:28:32

the fifth one has to be

1:28:35

Rick Bettina. John

1:28:35

Caliberi. Parker, buddy. Parker. Parker. That and

1:28:37

that is one of the meat matters because we

1:28:39

have to put Rick Matino. We have to get

1:28:41

not only the the twenty thirteen banner back,

1:28:43

but we have to get you

1:28:45

know, back in the zeitgeist. We have to get

1:28:47

people to participate. And also Parker, like I thought you're supposed to chosen one, dude. Like, this

1:28:49

is a great opportunity to throw a

1:28:51

crisp beard on there. And

1:28:54

then just, like, step back. Today. Yeah. Today. Or,

1:28:56

like, Joanne Howard. And then step back

1:28:58

and, like, let chaos unfold. You

1:29:00

know? Like, I thought you were the troll

1:29:03

god. Right. No. Like, this is too straight. is too this is too like

1:29:05

If you're gonna play it straight, you gotta be right.

1:29:07

Right. If you're gonna

1:29:10

be wrong, Be hilarious.

1:29:11

Be hilarious. Right. That those are the rules.

1:29:13

Dude, let's make that sure. You're gonna be

1:29:15

wrong. Be hilarious. Rick

1:29:19

Matino to Texas. Oof.

1:29:20

Lucretino to Texas? I I don't even Does

1:29:22

that sound right? Before the Madison Square Garden

1:29:25

Illinois game, I

1:29:27

said to you, I said to

1:29:29

you Texas, it's it's a little too good to be true. Right. Chris, and and sometimes

1:29:32

those things

1:29:35

happen. But also, Illinois

1:29:36

is another they

1:29:39

have their own problem. Yeah. Brett Underwood. Like,

1:29:42

what happened in

1:29:44

Matsons Square Garden. Both of those teams had imploded. Illinois.

1:29:46

Illinois, dude. Illinois. Nothing will Yeah. That's that's that's that's what I

1:29:48

was that's the point I was trying to make about Illinois

1:29:51

last time we were talking about like,