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On

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today's episode of Titus and tape, we are back from

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a holiday break, and boy do we have some catching

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up to do tape. There's a Don't much. Quite

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a few thing. Quite a few developments. The

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world of college basketball. Last night,

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Purdue lost the Rutgers. Rutgers. Rutgers.

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Yeah. Purdue, the the number one team in the country

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lost to Rutgers with Robbie

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Humble on the call. If that sounds like if

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if you're saying yourself, wait, am I listening to

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an episode? From last year?

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No. You're not. You're not. That happened last year.

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It happened this year. The number one Purdue

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boy, the makers lose

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a once one point game the rocker.

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Turns out that history repeats itself

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as it's prone to do. And Robbie Humo, I

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mean, we're we're close to the to the time where

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we have to call it the rocker. think Robbie

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should not be calling these games.

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I don't know why that's so funny. It must be because we,

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like, know Robbie personally, but just like

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to have an all time legend on the call when

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the the the two seasons that you've been number

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one in the history of the

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program. And one of your time legends is there

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calling the game and he loses

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the no. I shouldn't be laughing. I'm a pretty boost from

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very torn up by what happened.

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Also, the number two team tate,

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at the time, the Yukon Huskies, they lost their

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Xavier. Yukon was a team that was blowing

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everybody out. That was kind of the narrative around

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this team. The blowout came

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from them ish. Not really. They weren't blown

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out, but they lost by ten. So, you know, if you're

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a Xavier fan, you're like, that's a blow. Boom. A

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double ten. Yeah. For

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a lot of people to National Media, they

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finally saw the fact that Sean Miller is alive

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and well, and he is back at Xavier, and it

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feels like deja and he's a winner again.

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And and winner

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was dead. He's back in better than ever.

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Not only is he back in Xavier, he is

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there there is, like, this push The

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the the image maker he's already locked up the

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image maker over the year, Duffy. The the

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he he's turned into, like, an

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underdog, likable, And

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and I'm not I I'm just observing. I'm not,

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like, fighting either side. That was always the hilarious part

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of the Schleybuck Miller stuff is, like, I didn't

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I, like, I I Schlabuck was obviously

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in over his head with the the journalism he was

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doing, and that was hilarious to me. But then also

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I was like, I'm not gonna go to bat for Sean Miller

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of all, Pete. Like Sean Miller's not He's not Tony

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Bennett, you know. Like, I'm not gonna but

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somehow, he's positioned himself

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as, like, Tony Bennett diapers. Like,

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everyone loves the most lovable. He's, like,

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the most lovable guy. Everyone wants to pinch his

2:28

cheeks and hug

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him. And then they're, like, let's mic up Sean Miller. Let's cut

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to Sean Miller. And he's, like, you wanna fuck her.

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He's, like, slamming his ass down

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and they're, like, oh, Sean Miller. Look out in love

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with the genius. Yeah. It's so good to see you

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back at Xavier, that lovable guy. No,

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man. It was a good win, and he he coached circles

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around Dan Hurley, and we'll talk about that a little

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bit. Oh, dude. And worried about that. Yeah. We

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will we will definitely talk about that. But quickly,

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Tae, just to run a quick recap of everything

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that that I I jotted down. Kansas needed

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a miracle to beat Oklahoma state. We almost got the

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bill self special in Lawrence. Houston

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had a close game against UCF. Texas

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scrapes by Oklahoma. That was a close

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one. Arizona was blowing out Arizona

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state until they weren't. Until

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they weren't. And that rivalry is

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wild. I don't know how every single game at

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Arizona state always seems to, like, be,

3:18

I guess, wonky would be the words aid.

3:20

I mean, like, it it it

3:22

that that that's always crazy. UCLA survives

3:25

against Washington state of all teams. New Mexico,

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our last undefeated team, was almost not undefeated.

3:30

They needed a a last second bucket

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to be Wyoming. Baylor's blown out on

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Iowa State. Kentucky season is already over,

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and John Caliper is officially fired by Kentucky

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fans. He's just gonna keep doing the job throughout

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the rest of the year. Liza?

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The point is, there's a ton

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to catch up on. We're gonna do our best to

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do that But first, Woody

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Durham. Hey, thanks so time out here.

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I'm out. Take the go bow. Take

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the go bow. Alright.

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It is Tuesday morning. We are back from

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a long break way too long. I don't know what

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the hell happened. Who do we blame for

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this? Like, we blame I I don't know.

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I think it goes all the way to the top. And

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I know who the top is, but I

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feel like at one point we decided it was

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VCU, so I will blame VCU

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and or Condelez

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arise. Because I feel like

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Condelez Yeah. Is hot is a

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hot topic again. Everyone wants to hire her.

4:27

So let's let's just point to her. I mean,

4:29

how about a it's been so

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long that, like, there was there was something that

4:34

happened in in our world that

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I felt like would have led the show

4:38

and been, like, twenty minutes of the show.

4:40

And and if not for you just

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mentioning Condolez's rights. This is Condolez's

4:44

rights' name. I would have completely forgotten about it, and we probably

4:46

wouldn't have even talked about it at all today.

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But Kevin Warren is apparently doesn't

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wanna be the big team commissioner anymore. He wants to get

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back in the NFL. And

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if if you're if you're a true friend of the program,

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you'd see that story and your mind goes immediately

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one place and you say commissioner Condellisa. That's

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where we're headed. Right. That's where we're headed. Wow. Is

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this? Why is she gonna be the

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Bixson commissioner? How does it make any sense?

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Nobody knows? Nobody cares? It's just going to

5:10

happen. I mean, I think, like, people who

5:12

aren't people who don't follow our show are, like,

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it's probably Gene Smith. I mean, when you look at

5:16

the or Barry Alvarez, you know, like, the you you

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think of, like, the the power players in the Big

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Ten, in the administrative world. Like,

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those are two names that come to mind as guys who might

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replace Kevin Warren if he goes back to NFL.

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No, not the case. I'm here to tell you, it's gonna be

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Condelez of Rice. My sources have

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confirmed. She is the cat. If

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if, Tate -- Yeah. -- that is assuming if

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she doesn't also coach the Denver Broncos.

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Right. She's up here. If she if she coaches

5:39

the Bronco, she will not be the big ten

5:42

commissioner. Well, she's she's the biggest leader

5:44

we've ever seen. So she cannot anything,

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which I I do appreciate that fact.

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I also love that everyone is saying that Kevin

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Warren is going to be the CEO

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of the Bayers. I didn't even know that was a position by

5:54

Yeah. I did it either. The CEO of

5:56

the bears, and he's gonna hire Jim Harbaugh to

5:58

be the head coach. That is There you go.

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Rumors are swirling. It's a big

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intake over in Chicago. Congratulations

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to the Big Ten. And all the Big Ten faithful.

6:07

You did it. It just means more. We

6:09

we now run the bears. I like

6:10

that. The Big Ten run Never mind.

6:13

It reminds me when Brad

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Stevens was no longer the Saudi's

6:16

coach. And then I what what is Brad's title? He's

6:19

the president. He's not because because, like, Danny was the

6:21

president

6:21

and AM. Right? Does he both? Does does

6:23

he have both titles or both? I don't I don't know. But

6:25

then but then it dawned on me like, when he

6:27

when he when he stopped being the coach and

6:29

then he went to the front office, And I

6:31

was like, holy shit. Did he get fired and, like,

6:33

demoted? But then, like, you know, the Boston media

6:36

machine was like, oh my god. What a great promotion

6:38

for Brad Stevens? Right. I was like, is it? I

6:40

thought Danny a I thought, like, what the hell's going

6:42

on here? But then Danny goes to

6:44

Utah, but then, like, every time the Celtics

6:46

would do anything good. Everyone would be like, this

6:48

is Danny Ainge at work again. So I was like,

6:50

is Danny Ainge working for the Utah and Boston

6:52

at the scene? I'm it's all very confusing.

6:54

And then Same

6:57

sort of thing happens, like, with Jerry West, where,

6:59

like, Jerry West is, like, somehow whatever

7:01

team he's working for, he is somehow, like,

7:03

if you got Riley's this way a little bit, we're like,

7:05

there's something that pull through where they pull the strings

7:07

for there's somehow coaching

7:09

the team, making all the trades, selling

7:12

the popcorn, but then also, like,

7:14

they they have, like, a more removed role and they're

7:16

they're doing a great job of delegating and not

7:18

really doing anything. And what is their title? We're not

7:20

really sure It's president, but it's also

7:22

GM, but it's a don't know. It's all confusing.

7:24

And, Jerry, was there was there a street president

7:26

GM, I guess? No. There's no

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I I thought I felt that way

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too. Another one that comes to mind is Larry

7:32

Berg with the Pacers. Like, I like, when he stopped coaching

7:34

the Pacers, I had no idea what the hell Larry Berg. I didn't

7:36

even know if he was on the payroll anymore. Like, they

7:38

would like, he would always sit in that same

7:40

seat at Conseco Fieldhouse next to the tunnel.

7:42

Like, we talked about the one time. The guy crossing his

7:44

arms laying it against the wall. That's too rough. That was

7:46

Larry Bird at Conseco Fieldhouse. And

7:49

and they would cut to him during Pacers games

7:51

to be like Larry Bird's done a masterful job. I'm

7:53

like, what is his job? I I was I rushed the

7:55

game to be like, I agree. I love

7:57

Larry Bird. He's he's you

7:59

know, if the Pacers ever do anything, I'm UConn

8:01

always give Larry Bird the credit even

8:03

now. Yeah.

8:04

Go ahead. Gonna take the battery mortgage

8:07

credit. That that was a good way back. Like, say your

8:09

thought. He thought. We

8:12

could somewhat explain to me what he's actually doing. I

8:14

don't understand. Anyway, we're getting off topic. Let's

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talk about Purdue. Do Purdue boy

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of the maker's loss last night? For David Indiana,

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we'll stay in Indiana. We go we go from the pacers

8:22

and we'll alright. Hitting the tunnel right to, you

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know, Mackie Mackie Arena where all

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things are possible if Robbie Humble was on the

8:28

call. The number one team in the

8:30

country goes down. And III

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wanna say this because I I wanna

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start with This is

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ultimately gonna be positive. It's gonna sound like negative.

8:40

It's gonna sound like I'm hating on Purdue, but

8:42

I'm not. It's it's just gonna

8:44

take a just come with me on a ride. Fill

8:46

the Purdue sense because III

8:49

it's ultimately gonna be a positive tape. But I I

8:51

think I think this was needed for

8:53

Purdue. For this specific Purdue team, they needed

8:55

to because I think

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Yukon needed to lose. We'll talk about Yukon in a

9:00

second. That's that's like a different sort of thing.

9:02

But Purdue, This is

9:04

this is not the number one team in the country. This is

9:06

not this is not a team that I

9:08

think should even have national title

9:10

aspiration state. And I I again,

9:12

this sounds like I'm a hater. This sounds like how could

9:14

you say that? They have the best player in the country, far

9:16

a runaway national player of the year.

9:19

They were the second to last

9:21

undefeated team. They look to be the

9:23

heavy favorites in the Big Ten on and

9:25

on and on. I

9:27

I think what happened with Purdue

9:29

is it went so far like, coming into

9:31

the season, there were so many

9:33

questions about the backcourt. There were so many questions

9:35

about the the the the production

9:37

loss. You lose Jayden Ivy. You lose Trevyon

9:39

Williams. Stefanovich, who was

9:41

up and down, but was a was a big time shooter

9:43

if nothing else for Purdue. The

9:46

the Eric Hunter leaves You know? Like,

9:48

there there's so many guys that there there's so much

9:50

roster turnover that

9:52

that that there's just

9:55

questions around Purdue. Right? And and you have these

9:57

freshmen stepping in And

9:59

and it's it's just

10:01

unknown whether Braden Smith and

10:03

and and Fletcher lawyer. Like, are those

10:05

guys gonna be good enough to carry? And

10:07

early returns are great, Tate. And we see

10:09

the PK eighty five produced

10:11

beating Gonzaga. They're beating Duke. They

10:13

look unstoppable. Everything's

10:15

rolling. And I think, like,

10:17

some it all happened way too fast where

10:19

Purdue went from, like, I hope like,

10:21

if you're a Purdue fan, you're sitting there saying, I hope we

10:23

can, like, I don't know, be competitive,

10:25

but, like, you're like, I hope we can we can be at the top of

10:27

the big ten. That's the goal. It's like, I wanna be a

10:29

I wanna compete in the big ten this year.

10:32

Hopefully, our young guys can develop But

10:34

this is kind of a rebuilding year for us. So

10:36

suddenly, they're coming out of p k eighty five. Like, we're the best

10:38

team in the country, and we're gonna win the national

10:40

championship. And I think somewhere along the line some

10:42

perspective was lost where there

10:44

there was just an an an absurd

10:46

unfair expectations placed on two

10:48

freshman cards that, frankly,

10:50

Again, this is gonna sound like I'm saying these

10:53

I I love both of those guys.

10:55

Absolutely love them. They are they are they

10:57

are the three d guys They're Indiana.

10:59

They're Indiana kids, dude. They are they

11:01

are as as you know, when when

11:03

I did the every time I talk about

11:06

basketball in the state of Indiana. I go I go

11:08

fucking crazy because it's, like, one of the most important things

11:10

in the world to me is, like, the Jimmy Choo would bring

11:12

to basketball. That's that's me. That's who I am in

11:14

my core. Watching

11:16

those two dudes play. Watching watching what

11:18

Purdue basketball has become under Matt

11:20

Painter is fun

11:22

for me as a native Indiana

11:24

guy, but I I think, like,

11:26

somewhere along the line, like, the the

11:28

the the hype train

11:30

pun intended with Purdue,

11:33

got got out of control. And I think, like, we

11:35

we needed to step back and say, wait a

11:38

UConn. They're starting two freshmen in the

11:40

backcourt who up to

11:43

who who are are gonna be four year

11:45

guys probably? Maybe one of them is a three maybe, like,

11:47

one of them is, like, a Kyle on the Kyle Guy

11:49

path, you know, like, we're they they

11:51

in year three, they they blow up and it's like, I'm

11:53

not a first round pick, but like, damn, what else is there

11:55

for me to do here? I'm gonna go you know, I'm gonna try

11:57

my hand to professionally. They're probably four

11:59

year, guys. And if you think about, like, any other

12:01

situation with any other team, they

12:03

they have no this Purdue team has

12:05

zero NBA players on it, probably.

12:07

Maybe, ZachY, he gets it gets a

12:09

chance, you know. But there there's there's like no

12:11

NBA players on the roster. They're starting

12:13

two freshmen in the backcourt. And

12:16

you and you start, like, looking at the checklist and

12:18

you're, like, why were we why were we saying this

12:20

is the number one team that's that should be the national

12:22

title favorite? This is insane. Isn't it? Like, shouldn't

12:24

we wait a little bit to we see

12:26

how everything plays out. And I guess my

12:28

ultimate point, Kate, is like, I I

12:30

think this is a good reset for Purdue

12:32

to lose a Rutgers big game coming up on

12:34

Thursday, by the way. I guess how to stay. Like, I we can talk about that

12:36

towards the end of the show maybe. But III

12:38

think they just needed, like, to to reset the

12:41

expectations that there's like AAA

12:43

carryover from last year, but you're ranked

12:45

number one. Obviously, the the

12:47

the Saint Peter's loss leaves a terrible taste

12:49

in the mouth of Purdue fans. And now you're

12:51

back to being number one this year and you're

12:53

like, we did it.

12:55

Second haters, like, you thought we were and

12:57

and I don't think that was the right mindset to

12:59

have with this team. I think it was supposed to be

13:01

like, wow. This is great. This

13:03

is this is fun that we are better than I

13:05

thought we were. But let's not get too carried

13:07

away and say that, like, hey, two

13:10

hey, two freshman guys that aren't future

13:12

NBA players, carry us to a

13:14

national championship, which has literally

13:16

never happened ever. This never happened

13:18

in the history of college basketball, the two fresh regards

13:20

that aren't gonna be in the NBA have carried

13:22

a team to national title. So why should

13:24

we expect that now? You know? Is

13:26

that fair? That that's very fair because

13:28

first and foremost, I love the lawyer family.

13:30

And I love the lawyer family because of their

13:32

confidence. And there was a moment in this game

13:34

where they cut to Matt Painter's Huddl and they were

13:36

telling a story on the broadcast. You know, Robbie's

13:38

telling a story where, you know, Matt Painter said that

13:40

Fletcher lawyer, if he had half of his

13:42

confidence, you know, he would be a happy

13:44

man. Right? That that is the kind of confidence that

13:46

Fletcher lawyer plays with. Hit a clutch three

13:48

late in this game. Made some clutch free

13:50

throws after missing. Two free throws. Right. And he

13:52

showed some some moxie in

13:54

the moment. So I I like Fletcher Lawyer. I

13:56

like Brad and Smith. I think they actually

13:59

run the offense that Matt Painter

14:01

wants to run maybe more so than what we saw last

14:03

year when you have a talent like Jade and

14:05

Ivy who's like, I'm just gonna go get a bucket.

14:07

Right? Well, that that's that's not

14:09

always what you wanna do when you have this this

14:11

offense that's moving and there's a lot of back

14:13

cuts and things like that. So in

14:15

general, I like what Purdue has, but they are

14:17

freshman guards. And in a moment like this

14:19

where you have a tough Rutgers team, Matt

14:21

Painter after the game is like, I kept preaching these guys.

14:23

They're gonna come here. They're gonna be ready to fight.

14:25

They're gonna be this. They're gonna be that. But when

14:27

you're freshman you hear all that and you're like, okay, and it

14:29

kinda falls on deaf ears. And then

14:31

you learn that lesson and then you

14:33

move forward and I feel like that's what we're

14:35

waiting for with this Purdue backcourt. They're gonna have

14:37

to learn some lessons. They're gonna have to figure it

14:39

out. And that's why I said on our last show,

14:41

I didn't want Zach Heating to be number on

14:43

my list. didn't want Purdue to be number one because I wanted

14:45

them to keep fighting and have that chip on their

14:47

shoulder. I didn't want them to be the ones that are

14:49

being hunted. They deserved to have some time to

14:51

be the hunters. And

14:53

it just flipped it completely because they're

14:55

such a well oiled machine as a

14:57

group and as a team and as a program,

15:00

they kinda just jumped ahead of schedule, and then

15:02

they put themselves in a tough position. We were

15:04

hoping we were texting that we had all eyes

15:06

on January fifth because they're gonna come

15:08

to they're gonna come to Columbus, they're gonna

15:10

play a top twenty team, and they're maybe

15:13

gonna get, you know, that lesson learned then on

15:15

the

15:15

road. But instead, Rutgers comes to

15:17

They still might. They still they still might.

15:19

But but but but but but

15:21

but but being number one and having that

15:23

target on your back is tough. And

15:25

Zachini started playing basketball when he was

15:27

fifteen. He has the highest PER in the country

15:29

by a mile. It's like forty right now, which

15:31

is insane. I mean, he's doing historic

15:33

stuff. But at the same time,

15:35

there's still this next

15:37

phase of e d that you want him to get to where

15:39

that dominance doesn't have to be

15:41

pushed. Those buttons don't have be pushed. just kinda

15:43

has it. Obviously, foul trouble

15:45

played a bit in this game, but

15:47

Rutgers came at them with physicality

15:50

they're not gonna back down from anyone. Steve Piker was a

15:52

really good basketball coach. And Matt Painter said he tried

15:54

to preach for the game to get ready for this. They

15:56

weren't ready. And a Rutgers

15:58

basketball does it

15:58

again. I mean, now it's becoming a theme at this

16:01

point, Titus. Well,

16:01

I mean, Rutgers have to be annoyed.

16:04

Rutgers is big ten people know this at

16:06

this point. Rutgers Pike his

16:08

Rutgers program is is not a joke

16:10

at

16:10

all. It's not a it's not a, you know, I think

16:12

You're right. You're going

16:13

to play Rutgers. I mean, that's pretty much the rule

16:16

now. No. I mean, Rutgers is Rutgers

16:18

is this isn't flueke, what they do.

16:20

They do this. The I the the Rutgers

16:22

problem is they they have they

16:24

just have a talent ceiling, you know? Like, they

16:26

they so so they're never gonna,

16:29

you know, compete for final

16:31

fours this this team, I mean,

16:33

like, this this current iteration in the last few

16:35

years of record basketball we've seen. You know, like,

16:37

I I don't mean to say in the future

16:39

they can't get some New Jersey

16:41

kid to stay and stay and, you know,

16:43

write him to the final four or something. But

16:45

their issue is is they're

16:47

never gonna be like,

16:49

the elite of the elite of college basketball.

16:52

So I I feel like to the outside

16:54

world, you see, Rutgers obviously doesn't

16:56

have a ton of great history of basketball, and they're

16:58

they're unranked more often than not even

17:00

now when they have good

17:00

teams, that you see produce list of the Rutgers

17:03

and and you scoff and you laugh. You're like,

17:05

how does this stop happening?

17:06

Yeah. But anybody that pays any attention to

17:09

victim basketball and watches, the

17:11

way Rutgers play like, they they are just tough as hell,

17:13

man. They they are they are a nightmare to play

17:15

against. And that's what I I was trying to explain this to

17:17

my dad when when Indiana lost to Rutgers

17:19

and he's like, the season's over. Like, dad,

17:21

you've been watching record. Like, you saw records go to

17:24

Symblihl last year. Ron Harper splashed at the

17:26

reader face and grabbed

17:28

his nuts. You know, like, this is not this

17:30

is nothing new. Like, how many times do we have to

17:32

see this from Rutgers before we're like,

17:34

oh, okay. Maybe this isn't Maybe they just

17:36

have, like, a good culture in that program, and they

17:38

have guys like I said, their their ceiling

17:40

is is not very high.

17:42

But when when you play the way they they

17:44

can muck it up they can they they play physical.

17:46

They play great defense. They're they're hard nosed dudes. They

17:48

they they're experienced. Mulkei

17:53

is like, Mokey and and

17:55

Cam Spencer, the dude that hit the the three for the

17:57

the transfer for Rutgers that that hit the the three

17:59

to win the game ultimately.

18:01

Those guys are both as tough as nails man. And

18:04

and UConn, I love. He didn't really

18:06

necessarily play great against Purdue, but

18:09

Amaru is obviously their best player, but, like, it's

18:11

it's that that culture that

18:13

they have there is

18:16

is is such that, like, these sorts of things should not be surprising,

18:18

but I think in the outside world, maybe they still

18:20

are. And hopefully, beating Purdue for

18:22

the second straight year as as the number one

18:24

team in the country like,

18:27

this won't be a joke anymore. Like, I not

18:29

not that it is a joke. You know what I'm saying?

18:30

Like, it is. There there's just like a

18:32

sense of, like, They have two I don't like, his records over

18:35

Indiana and

18:35

now over number one -- Yeah. -- ready

18:37

this season. That's

18:37

what's Call the state

18:38

of Indiana, dude. Right. New Jersey New Jersey.

18:41

State of Indiana. We are

18:43

best. Goal at this

18:43

point. Yeah. No. They they they

18:46

they that I I you I

18:48

records owns I you. And I think

18:50

at this point, having knocked off Purdue,

18:53

twice now and back to back years as normal team. I think it's fair to

18:55

say they don't purdue. But, yeah,

18:57

man, I I just think with purdue, like,

19:00

it's it's some perspective is is

19:02

nice. Some take a deep

19:04

breath. I think Purdue fans are gonna be

19:06

fighting to fight all year of a narrative

19:08

building that that they are a

19:10

one man team and it's Zach Yedi and a bunch of bombs. I won't

19:12

do that to them. Like, I don't think that's that's

19:14

not fair because I do like the guys around them,

19:16

and I think you

19:19

they're going to be very good, but like like you

19:21

said, they they the the development got

19:23

rushed. It got like, we should be

19:25

this this

19:26

is, like, just coming to this season.

19:28

Should still be having fun. It should Yeah. It's just fun. Like, we're

19:30

having fun. Yeah. If if Purdue doesn't lose

19:32

like, what what's happened, unfortunately,

19:35

is now doesn't go the four year after being ranked number one in

19:37

the country. It's LOL

19:39

Purdue all over again. And it's like, you guys

19:41

choked it away, which is like, I

19:43

don't think don't think Purdue not making the

19:45

final four this year as a joke. I don't think that

19:47

would be a show. Last year it was, you

19:49

know. But this year, I don't

19:51

think it's fair to put with those

19:53

expectations on this team. I do think

19:55

these guards you know, not

19:57

to not to cut Ethan Moore out of

19:59

the equation who who can,

20:01

you know, III like his game under certain context, and I

20:03

like his role within this team. But -- Right. -- all these

20:05

freshman guards, like, I He doesn't do

20:07

much

20:07

else. Like, but then he's a spacer.

20:09

Yeah. I I think

20:12

in next year, maybe two years, like,

20:14

they're juniors, they're seeing whatever, they're

20:16

gonna talk

20:18

Talk to me then. I I will I will a hundred percent buy the

20:20

idea of them leading Purdue National Championship.

20:22

I just I I can't get

20:24

there, dude. I can't and I know Eddy's awesome, and

20:26

I know he's Like, I Eighty

20:29

is the best player in the country. He's going to win national

20:31

player in the year. Drew Drew Timmy has

20:33

been playing well lately, and there are guys that

20:35

are, you know, are going to have their say by the end of the season,

20:37

but I I don't see ED's production dropping

20:40

off anytime soon. And as long as it doesn't,

20:42

he's going to a national player there.

20:45

So I get that, but, like, the you need

20:47

guard play. You need shooting. Purdue's not

20:49

shooting the ball particularly well.

20:51

Fletcher Lawyer has a lot of lot

20:53

of freshman year John Deebler arrives to him

20:55

where you know he's a great shooter. You know

20:57

he like, you'd see like, you're shooting like

20:59

six threes a game. And he

21:01

and when he, you know, like, this he's got a great, like, a jump shot. And when

21:04

he goes in, you're like, yeah, this guy is a knocked is

21:06

this Larry Bird? He's kinda got a Larry Bird face,

21:08

like, young Larry Bird face to

21:10

him. He's also, like, shooting thirty percent from the

21:12

three point lines. You know, like, what's going on here? I thought

21:14

you're a good shooter. I I just think

21:16

they're they're a year or two away with

21:19

these guys. Next year, you

21:21

know, the year after whatever that, like, suddenly

21:23

everything's been rushed and there's been unfair

21:25

expectations. So I I think this is ultimately a good thing. I

21:27

hope that Purdue fans take a

21:29

deep breath, they say we can still win the big ten.

21:31

But there was this this talk dude, especially with, like,

21:33

IU not looking as great as we thought they would. And they

21:35

all in noise falling off a cliff and Michigan

21:37

was had preseason expectations,

21:39

and they're they're they're a

21:42

mess. Whatever.

21:44

I was I was gonna Never mind.

21:46

Just the mere mention of Michigan basketball. It's

21:49

just like -- Yeah. -- I don't know. I I think

21:51

Do I wanna do the twenty

21:53

five minute

21:53

tangent? No. Let's not

21:55

listed. Stay on topic

21:57

here. But there there is a sense state,

21:59

like like, as as as January

22:02

approach, that it is Purdue

22:04

and it is everybody else in the Big Ten. And

22:06

there is a mile gap between Purdue and the

22:08

rest of the league and yada yada yada. That

22:10

is unfair both the rest of the teams in the

22:12

league who are good. Like Ohio State,

22:14

I I I'm I'm starting to like what I've seen

22:16

out of the Buckeye State. The big ten

22:18

is good. There are other teams that can compete to win the Big Ten

22:20

title, but also it's unfair to do that to Purdue

22:22

to be like, you guys are head and shoulders better in the Big

22:24

Ten. If you lose more than two Big Ten games this

22:26

year, your frauds, your you suck.

22:28

You know? I don't I don't think that's fair to

22:30

do that. So I I think this game, everybody

22:32

take a deep breath, adjust

22:35

your expectations. You can still on the big ten, you still

22:37

have a great let's not pretend like

22:39

this group of of guys should

22:41

should be a national title or bus

22:42

team. It's just that's just not what they

22:45

should be. Yeah. When Brandon Newman is the guy that's gotta hit a shot

22:47

late for you to win. I I don't feel like you're

22:49

an actual title or bust type team.

22:51

And also, you know, I think if you made a

22:53

final four for the first times since

22:55

nineteen eighty, that would be a good first

22:57

step. And I think maybe with e d

22:59

and and thinks falling right in a bracket, you could

23:01

do that. So, I mean, you don't

23:03

wanna completely you know, sell yourself short, but

23:05

at the same time, don't have these. If we

23:07

don't win the title, we suck.

23:09

Yeah. You know, we we've already gone through that. We

23:11

don't need that. My question to you is if

23:13

you are Robbie Hummel, you work for

23:15

ESPN. They call you next

23:17

year. Produce number one, let's say

23:19

again. Rutgers is up there. Do you

23:21

say yes, I would like to call this game? Because I I

23:23

think at this point, if I'm Robbie, I'm saying, I would

23:25

like to watch this within the comfort of my

23:27

no. Or I would like to go to the game. Whoa. Okay.

23:29

So here's I don't wanna call this game. Here's

23:31

the problem with that.

23:33

If Robbie doesn't call the game

23:35

against rockers. It's pretty much break number one.

23:37

He's he's a dodger. And

23:40

also Purdue wins, then it's confirmed.

23:42

Then it's it's a hundred percent confirmed that

23:44

he is the curse. Whereas

23:46

I think I think you I think if you're Ravi, you

23:48

gotta just keep stepping into the batter's box and hoping

23:50

you can get a base hit. And then, you know,

23:53

everyone's like

23:53

dude, you're hitting

23:54

the bat in the odds.

23:55

Yeah. You're hitting one point five times

23:56

in a row. Rutgers has beaten, number

23:58

one Purdue, five years in a row. Yeah.

24:01

But did but I'm saying so I'm saying you hear but then,

24:03

like, when it happens, you're like, I'm

24:05

hitting one ninety seven, but I'm also on a one game

24:07

history because I just gotta base you

24:08

know, next, let's talk about like, but I'm hot. Don't let

24:10

me get hot. You know? Right. We're

24:12

just on the It's, like, fuck your lawyer's shooting a three. You're,

24:15

like, you gotta go. It looks

24:17

too good.

24:19

You put no. I'm a Fletcher lawyer. You put together

24:21

all of his makes. And you're like, this guy, is

24:23

this guy the best shooter in the country?

24:26

And, you know, III

24:29

unfortunately, I think you could have a lot of guys. You put

24:31

together their accent. When you make a shot

24:33

state, it looks like Yeah. But,

24:36

yeah, Purdue Purdue, I you know, Purdue Purdue is gonna be good.

24:38

I like Purdue. Purdue is is

24:40

a is is a funty. They're still a funty.

24:42

That's what's that's crazy. It's like they they are

24:44

a very fun team. They're they've been a

24:46

revelation in a lot of ways, like, of of a

24:48

team that that came out of nowhere and and

24:50

has won my heart in a lot of ways. They like you said, they

24:53

play Indiana branded basketball, but

24:57

it's it's unfair to to put

24:59

Lafayette expectations on a on a group that starts two freshman four

25:01

year guards. That's just like insane. Like in

25:03

what other context would that, you know, even

25:05

even if it was you know,

25:07

it was Duke or Kentucky or Carolina. Carolina was starting

25:09

two freshman guys that you thought were four year guys that

25:11

are showing that are not on any mock

25:13

drafts or any you know,

25:15

like, if if if you or I texted Cassini or or

25:18

KOC right now, like, what are your thoughts on

25:20

on Brad and Smith? They'd be like,

25:22

who? Oh, Cassini. With the KOC. Because

25:25

he's like,

25:26

oh, look at my life. But

25:28

he's

25:28

gonna come back and say, give me patent

25:30

infringement. Yeah. It's a patent infringement.

25:32

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And and

25:35

again, like, he could be. He could end up being this. So

25:37

I don't want Peru fans to take this to wrong. I'm

25:39

not saying, like, this guy's a he's not. He's a

25:41

great basketball player. He

25:43

could Braden Smith could play in the NBA eventually.

25:45

Eventually is the word, though. And and he and

25:47

and you gotta give them time to develop

25:50

and And and unfortunately,

25:52

when you when you throw a number one ranking on

25:54

a team, you don't get any more time. Now

25:56

all eyeballs are on

25:57

you. And if you can't deliver every single

25:59

night, you're fraudulent, you're phony. And and

26:01

that's where we've arrived.

26:02

It's hard it's hard for

26:03

me. There's a record. Yeah. At the end of the day, it's

26:05

hard for freshman to lead. And think Gilles or

26:07

Newman or someone like that is gonna have to be the quote

26:10

unquote vocal leader for these

26:11

guys, and we'll see what happens with that. Maybe it's

26:13

Mason Gilles. I think Ethan Morton

26:15

Or Ethan Morton. Right? Ethan Morton should be

26:17

the guy. Yeah. I think Ethan Morton's kind of the

26:20

he's kind of like the wildcard because he's

26:23

not I don't know, man. Ethan Warren's an interesting dude because

26:25

he's got the his

26:27

he's he's he's a little bit of, like, a do

26:29

everything type thing, but then sometimes you

26:31

you you wonder if that's because

26:33

he can't really do it. He just die. Yeah.

26:36

The line between

26:37

doing everything and doing nothing is very

26:39

blurry with him, you know.

26:42

I

26:42

agree. It's a confusing sometimes

26:43

for gaming. No. I feel watching gaming. And then,

26:45

like, Robbie Hummels, like, this guy look at everything

26:48

that he creates, and I'm like, I guess, I guess, he

26:50

does do that. That's nice.

26:53

Yeah.

26:53

Anyway, we UConn move on. Let's

26:55

move on. That that was

26:57

supposed to be dominant and the best of

26:59

the country and took a loss and

27:02

is now fraudulent. You got Xavier

27:04

New Year's Eve. Xavier

27:06

went by ten eighty three seventy

27:08

three. In a game that I felt

27:10

I

27:10

felt it wasn't III

27:13

teased the idea of it being a blowout because it was a double

27:15

digit win. It wasn't a blowout tape, but I did feel

27:18

like Xavier was very close

27:20

to dominating this game in this in this

27:22

sense state that Xavier set the

27:24

terms of the game from the start.

27:26

And outside of the sixteen to

27:29

five run to end the first half,

27:31

when funny enough, it

27:33

goes to we we get Sean Miller miked up in

27:35

the huddle, and he's like, that this team will go

27:37

on a run against us. It's coming.

27:39

I'm telling you boys, the run is

27:41

coming. They do it to everybody. They're going to

27:43

do it. Don't let them do

27:45

it. The run is coming. Don't do it. All the guys are not. They're like,

27:47

hey, I got you good. Got you. Got you. Got you.

27:49

Got you. Got you. Got you. I'm a sixty year high run

27:51

to take the lead in the half in a

27:53

way. Like, this is so perfect.

27:55

But but outside of that stretch,

27:57

that, like, five minute stretch equal to the

27:59

first half. Xavier was in control of

28:02

the the scoreboard might not say that because, you know, like,

28:04

it was it was sort of a close game

28:06

throughout. But in in the in the way, like,

28:08

the the terms of, like, the way the game was

28:10

being played felt like Xavier had control of

28:12

this. It felt like from

28:14

the start, for example, like Xavier, it

28:16

was very clear to me that their strategy was let

28:18

you count you threes. Let let especially,

28:20

Andre Jackson, shoot three. He's like, leave him

28:22

wide open. You know, you don't wanna let Hawkins

28:24

get

28:24

going. It's not like, like, Keriband

28:27

Hawkins and

28:27

because then it takes thirty seven threes in this

28:30

year. That was obviously the strategy. I'm

28:32

not saying they're letting, like, Calcatera just be

28:34

wide open all day, but, like, that that was

28:36

that was If if Connecticut Jack's

28:38

threes and isn't playing through Sonoco

28:40

isn't driving the basketball, and it's just

28:42

continuing to pass it around and Jacking

28:44

up threes, whether they go in or not, we're gonna be happy with that. They hit

28:46

they hit thirteen threes out of thirty seven

28:48

today. So, like, Connecticut was hit and but

28:50

that was Xavier's game plan.

28:53

And and I'm I'm losing my mind

28:55

and, like, the part of me that's, like, it loves

28:57

this Connecticut team and loves, like, what we've seen

28:59

from them so far. I'm, like, losing my mind watching this

29:01

game. Like, how are you how are you falling

29:03

into this trap over? Andrey Jackson just kept kept

29:05

saying, like, wow. I'm wide open. I should shoot it. Wow.

29:07

I'm wide open. I should shoot it. Wow.

29:09

And he hit four I

29:11

guess, which is like he he's one of those guys that

29:13

it's funny because when when he hits, you're almost

29:15

like, this is bad news for us if you're a Connecticut

29:17

fan because it means he's gonna think he's

29:20

he's hot today, so he's gonna keep shooting. But

29:22

but, yeah, that that was that

29:24

was Xavier's game plan from

29:27

the start they were the tougher team. They they they

29:29

had the home crowd. It was it

29:31

it it it I don't know. It was just a game that it felt like

29:33

Xavier was in the driver's seat whether the scoreboard

29:35

dictated that or not. It just like the

29:37

tone of the game felt like Xaver was in

29:39

control. And and you were optimistic

29:41

if you're a Yukon fan that you could, like, steal the

29:43

win in the end. But in terms of, like,

29:45

the vibe and who felt good about

29:47

that game, I would say, you

29:49

know, Xabir obviously won by ten, but even when it

29:51

was, like, five of five minutes left or

29:53

whatever, I felt like Xavier was

29:55

was still out playing

29:56

them. Is that a fair assumption to to Yeah.

29:58

Absolutely. I mean, Xavier definitely dominated

30:00

this game in a sense where you you just

30:02

felt like it was inevitable they were gonna win. And that's why when

30:04

Dan Hurley got the technical foul that he

30:06

did, that was basically game. And a lot

30:08

of Connecticut fans were like, that lost us

30:11

the game, But the the game was already

30:13

in my it was already in the hands of Xavier. I

30:15

thought they were gonna win anyway. And Dan Hurley

30:17

did Dan Hurley things as

30:19

expected. A critical moment. And I'll be honest with

30:21

you. I watched the Villanova Yukon game

30:23

before. And Dan Hurley, at one point, they had the

30:25

camera on him, and he's he's talking to the official

30:27

And he says four straight times, you're an effing

30:30

clown. You're an effing clown. You're an effing

30:32

clown. You're an effing clown. And he

30:34

eventually stands there. Does

30:36

nothing. just tries to ignore him, I guess,

30:38

his best he can, runs back then on the other end of the

30:40

court. And I said to myself, yes,

30:42

Yukon is the number two team in the country. They're

30:44

undefeated. They're dominating everyone. But

30:47

eventually, this act is gonna wear thin.

30:49

Right? That that is the Dan Hurley

30:51

story as his tradition, as it's always

30:53

been. And as he was on

30:55

the road, In an environment Miller also is trying

30:57

to work the officials, I just felt like

30:59

you were thin, and they started calling a lot of

31:01

fouls on Connecticut that physicality turned

31:04

against them And I think it came a lot

31:06

from Dan Hurley. Right? I mean, that's that's who

31:08

Dan Hurley is. But but in this

31:10

environment, as we know how college basketball

31:12

works, It's the perfect time to throw it in his face, and they

31:14

did. The officials definitely did. I mean,

31:16

you look at discrepancy and free throws. I mean, it's

31:18

all there for you, but that also comes from the way

31:20

that Connecticut plays. So I don't

31:22

know if this game to me felt like

31:25

the perfect folly of why you

31:27

get worried about this Yukon team. It's not

31:29

really the talent It's

31:31

not really the depth because we know they have the best

31:33

depth in the country. I think they could easily win a

31:35

national championship. But there is that

31:37

certain level or that certain layer with this

31:39

with this group that Dan Hurley is unhinged.

31:41

He's always been dead. He is

31:43

he is at the levels. And

31:45

if he finds the if he finds one of those

31:47

games or he loses it a little too much,

31:49

it can cost you the game. And we saw I

31:52

was watching the game at a bar with a buddy that doesn't

31:55

necessarily follow college basketball super

31:57

closely, but like

31:58

sports, you know, the good --

32:00

Right. -- and and we're we're watching

32:02

the game and and Hurley gets teed up

32:04

and he goes, I missed it. What did he do?

32:06

And I was, like, I don't think he did it. I think he's Dan Hurley.

32:09

I think, like and I was, like, trying to explain it,

32:11

like, like, this is

32:13

one of the guys that, like, Hurley is one

32:15

of them. There there are a lot of coaches that

32:17

are are this way, but, like, the Hurley

32:19

brothers are are in a league of their own. I guess,

32:21

Musselman's up there with them.

32:23

But mick mick Cronin from time

32:25

to time. But Cronin usually is

32:27

o can be this

32:28

way. Right? I mean, there's certain there's certain

32:30

coaches that you can use technical fouls as, like, a way

32:32

to get, like, to send a signal, to send

32:34

a sign. But there's other coaches that

32:36

are, you know, motherfucking the official

32:38

the entire game, like, dude.

32:41

In a budget yeah. Exactly. Basically, it wears if they

32:42

ended. They're, like, technical foul. Yeah.

32:45

Exactly. Like, with with his own, like, Crohn and

32:47

even, it feels like they they

32:49

are a slow burn, and then they get to the point where

32:51

they just explode, you know, and they they move

32:53

their minds. And Yeah. But

32:55

Hurley, it's like he's he's

32:57

he's that way the entire game and it just wears and

32:59

and then so the technical is not about like

33:02

that particular incident. So then when he gets teed

33:04

up, he and Yukon fans were like, what what

33:06

did I do? All I said was fuck your mother. Like, you're

33:08

gonna team you up for that. And it's like, dad,

33:10

you said this this is the twelfth time you said

33:12

this to me. Right. You said this

33:13

time, you know. And I saw a lot of

33:14

people saying that what he said was, like,

33:16

great call or something like that. But it's, like, when you

33:18

but, like, when he's sarcastically saying

33:20

that after chastising these officials since they

33:22

-- Yes. -- they made an AN1 on

33:23

the first play in his mind. Right?

33:26

Like, eventually, you're like, dude. Shut the hell up. It's

33:28

not it's not any one thing. It's the accumulation

33:30

of things. So yeah. Here

33:32

here's III don't think Yukon

33:35

needs to I'm I'm gonna use the word

33:37

fix because

33:37

whatever, but it's it's not that dramatic.

33:40

They're not broken. But if if that

33:42

were here's here's

33:44

how you unlike Purdue, Yukon

33:46

should have very serious national title aspirations.

33:48

They should this team should say

33:50

we it's

33:51

not screw. It is national time road

33:54

bus. It doesn't mean, I guess, you're not a you're not a

33:56

failure if you don't. But, like, that should be your mindset inside the

33:58

locker rooms. Like, we we are trying to win a national championship.

34:00

We are good enough to win the national championship. And they

34:02

should they should think that they are the best team in the

34:04

country. But they they gotta clean up

34:06

some things. Number one, Tate, as you said, Dan Hurley's got AII

34:08

get that who he I get that that

34:11

showing the emotion like he he he gets the players going. I love

34:13

all of that. I'm not trying to tell the

34:15

Tiger to change his stripes. I'm

34:17

trying trying to tell the tiger to not bite the official's head

34:19

off. That's all I'm trying to tell.

34:21

Right. Right. I'm trying to tell you be a

34:23

tiger. Definitely be a tiger. But, like,

34:26

let's not I'm just spotty to just, like, sit back and, like,

34:28

observe

34:28

everyone. Let's not run into the orphanage

34:30

and mold all the kids, you know?

34:32

Like, let's not do that. Let's let's

34:36

step back. Let's just step back and chill a little bit.

34:38

I I would say there was

34:40

a sense to Yukon early in the season that

34:42

they had they were chip on the shoulder team.

34:45

Like they were the team that was picked to finish fourth,

34:48

I think, in the big

34:49

east. And they took that personally

34:52

take. And and this is a team

34:54

that that they they saw all the

34:56

preseason clippings and and what you

34:58

said about them and they're they're they're coming and and

35:00

all that

35:01

kind of stuff. I think that that that that's somewhere along

35:03

the line that that that edge has been lost

35:06

and and there's like a sense of of

35:08

that that that's what I saw in the Xavier game.

35:12

It's like Let's hold it together. A Yukon team that was a little

35:14

softer, that the the defensive edge

35:16

was gone, the the the chip on

35:18

the shoulder

35:20

was gone, they were the team that

35:22

was playing a little more finesse basketball. I want the toughness back.

35:24

We need that back. And we

35:27

need to not shoot a thousand threes. And and and

35:29

Andre Jackson needs, you need, like, AA53 limit

35:32

on him. I don't know if he goes if he goes five

35:34

for five, he's the one

35:36

guy making exception four on my rule

35:38

if you're shooting forty percent. If you're shooting

35:40

better than forty percent, keep shooting. He's the one

35:42

guy I make an exception. If Andrey Jackson is

35:44

five for five from the three point line, stop it. You get

35:46

five a game. That's it. You're done. I don't care what

35:48

the circuit. I don't care for down three with two

35:50

seconds left, and you catch the ball here wide

35:51

open. Pass it. Yeah. Five

35:54

threes. That's it. Hard festival. I

35:56

mean shooting thirty plus three is a soft. I mean,

35:58

that means you're not going to the basket. That means you're not

36:00

being physical. And like you said, that that's what this team

36:02

was about. Especially in the front

36:04

court. And, I mean, this I

36:06

mean, Fremantle and Nung Ji. I mean, they

36:08

had a good game. They both played well.

36:10

Xavier's

36:10

good. Xavier's good. Right. And Xavier's ranked eighteen. And when

36:13

we started this podcast, we said that there

36:15

are some things that always hit. Right? And one

36:17

thing that always hit was

36:20

Cincinnati being seventeen or Xavier being eighteen or vice versa.

36:22

And the fact that Sean Miller got Xavier right

36:24

where they wanna be

36:25

again. But, yeah.

36:28

If for the cap, they're back at eighteen. I love that. Yeah. Silly

36:30

Boam, the the transfer from Utah

36:32

for Xavier has been kind

36:35

of a come out of nowhere guy. Like, he's he's he's

36:38

he's he's somehow has

36:40

has you know, he he he's

36:42

a guy that, like, when he he transferred from like

36:45

you, Ted, Xavier, you assume his production's gonna fall off a cliff.

36:47

He wasn't even great in this game. I think he was, like,

36:49

three for ten against Newcount, but

36:52

just his presence and his calm in as it's a point been

36:54

been awesome for them. Yeah. We

36:56

might have a nice nice piece off the

36:58

bench, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Dror, dude, I loved

37:00

him in Indiana when he was at IU. I

37:02

thought he was gonna be awesome at AIU. He's

37:04

a Columbus, Ohio kid. But,

37:07

yeah, Xavier's a experienced team.

37:09

I think their entire rotation is

37:11

basically seniors and juniors. The

37:14

result is not exactly surprising. I mean, there's a

37:16

reason, like, this game was was

37:18

was hyped up and, you know,

37:20

people in the big east were

37:22

had circled as, like, AAAA fun game to watch. And Xavier

37:24

was Xavier picked the to win the big their second.

37:26

Right? They were second mind creating. Yeah. Yeah. They

37:28

were second mind creating. But

37:30

So there there's no shame in losing this over, even losing by ten. I'm not

37:33

hitting the panic button or anywhere close to it

37:35

with Yukon. I just think, like,

37:38

If if you're serious about one international title, the messaging in the locker

37:40

room is we got our ass kicked today. We

37:44

were soft. Whether it's true or

37:46

not, I'm I I this is what I'm this is what I

37:48

would tell the guys, you know.

37:48

Like, if I was Oh, this is

37:49

what Dan Hurley said for sure. Yeah. We were soft

37:52

today. We got our

37:54

ass kicked. Not one in we're not being anybody playing this way.

37:56

We gotta be more physical defensively. We

37:58

gotta actually

38:00

work the ball inside and, like,

38:02

not just be content passing around and jacking up

38:03

threes. And I gotta

38:06

not lose my fucking mind on the

38:08

finish. Yeah.

38:10

Right. Right. I'll

38:10

tap and you know what? I'm gonna end this speech by tapping my chest and raising my hand

38:13

saying that one's on me. Right. And I

38:15

think that would be I

38:17

hope that's what happened. I really

38:19

do because I think that's the best thing for everybody. And I even saw Connecticut fans saying that they're like, you

38:21

know, come on coach Hurley. Right? Though even the

38:23

ones that want him to

38:26

be insane, They know that it was a bridge

38:28

too far, and I think you kinda be better for it. As you and I have always said, it's better to learn

38:30

these lessons now than later.

38:33

And we said it last year with Auburn. Auburn fans got really mad at us and then

38:36

they go in the tournament. They had learned no lessons

38:38

and it you know, they fell flat on their

38:40

face. So These are the times

38:42

if you're gonna win a national championship, go to a

38:44

final four. Like, learn

38:46

this lesson, move forward, be better forward. And I'm not

38:48

worried about UConn. In fact, If I had a vote, I would

38:50

still put Yukon number one in the country right

38:51

now. If it was if it was up to vote.

38:54

Interesting. Yeah.

38:56

Interesting. Alright. Because that I

38:58

guess that's the question now. Now the produce loss,

39:00

you count loss, Houston

39:03

I still think Houston's III still think

39:05

it's used to be. So I I

39:06

mean, Houston Houston. Fine for Houston be number one

39:08

just for the good of college basketball. I think it's

39:11

a fine look. And I also just

39:13

looked at the poll from last week. Purdue got all

39:16

first place votes other than one. Yukon

39:18

got the one vote to to

39:20

be the the other they were the other number one

39:22

vote. So that was the one

39:24

voter. And I like Yukon. Yukon has

39:26

passed my eye test. I also thought that going to

39:28

Xavier was a tough game in general. So that

39:30

that doesn't blow my mind that they lost that game.

39:32

And I thought that they'd showed a lot of flaws

39:34

in that game. Houston, they

39:36

just gotta keep coasting until March. You

39:38

know what I mean? They just can't have any

39:40

bad losses. So they they they could be number one and hold that position for

39:42

quite a while if they get it

39:43

back. Yeah. Houston is I I

39:46

mean, they're they're the betting favorite to

39:48

win it. And I

39:50

guess you could if if you

39:52

wanna be a hater, you could say it's because the final four is

39:54

in Houston. And they think that if Houston

39:56

can make the final four of the home

39:58

court advantage, But if you know how these things

40:00

work, that doesn't actually make any sense

40:02

because, you know, like, if if

40:04

butler had home court advantage

40:06

against due, It's

40:08

that yeah. I don't I don't really track that, so I don't

40:10

think that's it. I mean, it's because Houston's the best team in

40:12

the car. I I saw I forget what's

40:15

sports book it was, but but Houston was, like, eight to

40:18

one to win the National Title Day, and Purdue was

40:20

sixteen to one. Now I my

40:22

game lens is a little hazy. I I don't quite

40:24

understand. Odds as well as you do.

40:26

Correct me if I'm wrong.

40:27

You're basically saying Houston has twice a

40:29

good chance. Right? To win the

40:31

National James

40:33

of his Purdue, Yeah,

40:34

I guess. I mean, that was that was great. Like, this was before Purdue lost a

40:36

that was before Purdue lost a Rutgers. So the note

40:39

the Houston like, Vegas was looking

40:40

at, it was, like, alright, Purdue's number one in the

40:43

country. But this team that's not number one in the

40:45

country has twice as good odds

40:48

to to have more

40:49

better at changing

40:50

the country. Yeah. More the formula. Yeah. More the formula.

40:52

Yeah. That's why Houston

40:54

Houston passes the test for most everybody. You

40:56

know, that that has been a college basketball

40:58

fight. Yeah. Absolutely. See, the coach

41:00

you understand the pedigree, you understand these players and you say, well, that's a team that

41:03

in March could win the title. And that's why

41:05

it's easy, I think, to have them as

41:07

a number one and everyone leaves

41:10

a good taste in your mouth because you're like, for the good of the

41:12

game, that team at number one makes a lot

41:14

of sense. Right? And and we've seen them lose

41:16

obviously They have the otherwise,

41:19

they've been good. Yeah. They have a five

41:22

star kid

41:22

too in the walker. Like, if if that's your thing

41:24

if if that's one of the boxes you need checked

41:27

is, like, do do they have Five

41:29

star free. Yes. Yeah.

41:31

A five star free. Yes.

41:33

They do. They have that as well. Oxygen.

41:35

I I think it's probably

41:37

Houston. I think Kansas fans are listening to this thing. What

41:39

about us? I don't

41:43

know. Kansas is Kansas

41:46

is like funny to me. I'm still

41:48

trying to figure out how. I I mean, we talked about

41:50

it after that. You gave it for the blue,

41:52

the doors off of Indiana. That

41:56

the team kind of makes no sense. They're

41:58

just, like, it's it's it's four wings and

42:00

the one hair is basically. This is the

42:04

starting line. Excuse me. They

42:06

they they play like it

42:08

it defies like bills that the

42:11

bill self basketball that I know and love. But at the same time,

42:13

they won a national title sort of playing. This they

42:15

they had David McCormick

42:18

last year who who

42:20

so it wasn't quite as pronounced

42:22

as it is this year. But last

42:24

year, I got that feeling a little bit. I

42:26

was like a Kansas team that is just so heavily

42:28

reliant on wing players and not point guards and centers. Like, that's that

42:30

doesn't make any sense to me. And then they won the

42:32

national titles. So I guess, self was,

42:35

like, Let's double down. Let's go all the all the wings. I want

42:37

more wings. Vimi wings.

42:40

But I I I'm

42:44

still figure Kansas out. That's wonderful way of saying, like, they're obviously good,

42:46

Taylor Wilson's incredible. He's he's first team

42:48

all American, Grady dick is is awesome.

42:50

The colders been you know, like,

42:53

you just want me to read off the roster and say,

42:55

I'm like, all these guys. I could do

42:57

that for you. But, like, try to

42:59

figure out how they all fit together and whether

43:01

they're just out there just like playing ball, you or whether they're because it does

43:04

like, obviously, Bill sells a great coach and this

43:06

is not like me ripping on him,

43:08

but it does sort of feel like Kansas is a world

43:10

of balls out team right now where they just,

43:12

like, get up and down and play basketball

43:14

and, like, they they they don't

43:16

really know what their roles are on the team. They're just

43:18

kinda, like, get out there and playing, and they're

43:20

winning because they're talented. But are you also, like, what

43:22

is this I don't know. I'm still trying

43:24

to figure out what the hell this Kansas team is other

43:26

than just a really talented team

43:28

with with great wing play. And

43:29

Yeah. We're weirdly, they remind me, like, of a Duke teams

43:32

in the the late mid odds.

43:34

Like, with Kyle Singler being

43:36

that four where, you know, the same

43:38

way that Jaylon Wilson is that for for

43:40

Kansas. They remind me of a Duke team in that

43:42

sense, and I'll be honest with you,

43:44

KJ Adams. Is doing something that I think is really smart for

43:46

his career. He's playing the five as A68

43:48

guy, but he's learning how to switch.

43:52

All these positions. And if I were in I would just PR team,

43:54

I would be put push pushing it out that

43:56

he is the Draymond Green of College Basketball

43:59

he is small ball five. Everyone loves him

44:01

because I think when KJ goes to the league, they're

44:03

gonna want him to be a small forward. And now he can

44:05

say no, no, no, actually play

44:08

the five. I'm your small ball five. That can be the specialist for your

44:10

team. And I think that's fascinating. I think

44:12

Jaylen Wilson has a is gonna have an argument

44:14

to be national player in the year. You and I talked

44:16

about that.

44:18

He's probably he's locked in himself as number two probably behind

44:20

ED in the real race, not on

44:22

my watch list, but in the real

44:22

race. I think that's I think Timmy, I think I

44:25

think

44:25

people would say Timmy, but

44:27

think Timmy's not locked in it too. I think people would say

44:29

I think people would say too. But I I I'm I I'm

44:31

not arguing with this guy. For this guy, it's for this

44:34

guy. The only reason I mentioned Timmy is

44:36

because people because people listening are

44:37

probably, like, what the, you know So there I mentioned Timmy. There

44:39

you go. Timmy Smith. Timmy. We mentioned he's

44:42

mentioned we speak your

44:44

name, Drew. Timmy. I like KJ

44:46

Adams at the five as a small ball

44:48

five. I think they're a fascinating team.

44:50

I do worry about this Kansas

44:53

a little bit when it comes to the tournament. But the fact that

44:56

they were down fifteen in a title

44:58

game, sixteen at one point in a

45:00

title game, and then come back and

45:02

win a Nashville championship. I was there. I saw it. That's scary. They're down fifteen in this

45:04

game. The Bill Self Special is right.

45:08

In our face. You and I are, you know, we're celebrating it because we were

45:10

like, there's no way the scene could do this, but they

45:12

can. And so the scariest part about Kansas to me

45:14

is that you could be beating Kansas pretty handily

45:18

and this group is too young and too talented

45:20

to believe that it's over. And and

45:22

Bill Self is the perfect coach for, like,

45:25

All Shucks fellas just go load the wagon and

45:27

see what happens. And guess what happens? They win

45:29

games. And -- Yeah. -- that that is what is

45:31

the scariest part about Kansas is that you can have

45:33

them pretty much dead the rights and they're

45:35

so talented that they don't feel that way, and they

45:37

can come back in any game because Oklahoma State should

45:39

have won this

45:40

game. I mean, there's no doubt about it. And Kansas

45:42

was the race six nine and it's over.

45:44

Yeah. But, I

45:46

mean,

45:47

there's a questionable call at the end

45:49

we should say

45:49

too. Right. Right. But, hey. That's

45:52

blue blood. That's that's what the blue blood's do. Blood treatment. That's Oh,

45:55

boy. Yeah. If if that's

45:57

if that's in Still Waller, special

46:00

Even Bill self's like, come on. Yeah.

46:02

Yeah. Bill Bill self's complaining about this

46:04

no call. Yeah. I'm also sick. You're

46:06

gonna you're gonna screw my alma

46:09

mater? God. They might be this

46:12

way. Disrespect me.

46:14

I come back home and you do this to me.

46:16

Right. Shout out to Juan Harris,

46:18

by the way, a guy who and and and

46:20

I I just listed, like, everybody on the

46:22

roster felt like for Kansas. And to Juan Harris

46:26

is He's getting the Kea Clark. He's in the Kea Clark

46:28

mold of guys who were starting

46:30

point guards on national championship teams.

46:33

And get dismissed is, like, not that good even

46:35

though everyone within the program and every fan

46:37

and every coach and everybody is, like, this

46:39

guy is insane and he's the reason our

46:41

team works. And we'd love his game and he's

46:43

incredible. And then every outsider's like, he

46:46

averaged five points a game last year. If he's that good,

46:48

why did he average five points

46:50

a game? And then Bill Self, who's

46:52

one of the great he's literally in the hall of fame and

46:54

one of the greatest coaches ever is like, I

46:56

think he's the best point growing the country. And

46:58

then Bozzo's like us are like, he

47:00

can't be because How come

47:02

how come his other point

47:04

guards average in seventeen a game? And

47:07

Duane Harris isn't? Anyway, he's a perfect point guard for this group. He's

47:09

he's Right. He's He is nine assists,

47:11

and he doesn't take shots away from those guys. All

47:13

those wings won't shots. You know, Grady dick wants

47:15

to shoot, Jaylen Wilson wants

47:18

to shoot, he's not taking shots away, and and he kinda knows his

47:20

role really well. And in general, this

47:22

Kansas group, the the the guys that come in off the

47:24

bench, Bobby

47:26

Pettingford, and all these guys that come in, they all seem to understand roles

47:28

really well despite being

47:29

young. So, Kansas is an encouraging team. I

47:31

just think if I was build self -- Oh. -- would not

47:33

be number one.

47:36

No. Well, but also, I don't think Kansas

47:38

is you you're saying no matter

47:40

how big of a lead you get, they they it

47:42

feels like Kansas thinks they can come and

47:45

they probably can. But I also

47:48

think expanding that to, like,

47:50

the the full season. Kansas

47:52

could lose two or three in a

47:54

row, and I don't think they're doing like, they're they're a team that I will never be out on.

47:57

You know, III

47:59

guess there's some circumstances made.

48:02

But but they they lose by fourteen to ten to

48:04

c. Wisconsin probably should

48:06

have beat him. Mobile and the state should have beat him. Like, they've they've

48:08

looked shaky a lot throughout

48:10

the year. But I'm not

48:12

worried. They're not a team like that

48:14

that that will lose a game and then you get a

48:16

point and say, I knew it. You you guys suck. Get

48:18

out of here. We don't have to take you seriously

48:21

anymore. They're gonna be you you should have to take them seriously the rest

48:23

of the season. You just with with the talent they have

48:25

and how yeah.

48:28

How many different guys could beat you and

48:30

and Jaylen Wilson, the level

48:32

he's playing at. And, yeah, I I mean, like, they're

48:34

they're not gonna go away. They're gonna be in

48:36

the mix the entire season. So it's

48:39

this isn't this isn't a deal, like, say,

48:41

maybe a Kentucky where Kentucky loses a few

48:43

games real. Like, goddamn these guys suck. Like,

48:45

I I don't wanna talk

48:47

about that anymore. Kantos could drop a couple in the big twelve,

48:49

maybe even in a row, and I'm not gonna I'm

48:52

not gonna really panic about this

48:54

team until you know, March

48:56

comes around and they're still playing like garbage, then I

48:58

might start to worry. But, like, I I no

49:00

matter what happens with this Kansas group, especially with

49:02

the way they they, you know, they win the national title last year.

49:04

And I understand and it's a

49:06

lot of roster turnover, but there's just a

49:08

vibe around them that they're gonna figure it out. And

49:10

whether they do or not, I'm gonna work under

49:12

that assumption until proven otherwise. Yeah. And

49:14

this and tonight, they play at Texas Tech, a team that they struggled

49:16

against last year against that defense, that no

49:18

middle defense. And, you know, the the second time

49:20

they played them, they figured it out. They to

49:23

throw in skip passes and things like that. So we'll

49:25

see what happens. This young group could go to

49:27

Texas Tech, struggle against that defense, lose the

49:29

game on the road, And we're all

49:31

like, oh, Kansas. Should we worry about Kansas? Right?

49:33

And they're they're the next step on the docket of top

49:35

teams to worry about. But like you're saying, even if that

49:38

were to happen and however many hours away

49:40

we are from that, still not worried about Kansas because of the talent level.

49:42

And I think that there's like, Grady Dick is

49:44

so young that he believes that

49:46

he can

49:48

take this team to a national championship and win it. You know what I mean? Like, the has

49:50

that level of confidence. And you gotta like

49:52

that about this group. There you go. Quick break to

49:54

get a word from our sponsor.

49:57

Alright.

49:57

Let's let's do this exercise because we've set the the

49:59

b number one or b in top five

50:02

or wherever you wanna draw the

50:04

line

50:06

is cursed. So and it doesn't feel like Purdue should be a

50:08

number one team. Again, that's

50:10

not a disrespect to this group. It's just like,

50:12

let's let's be realistic about

50:14

it and and

50:16

and, you know, they're they're they're

50:18

they're they're just they're they don't scream best

50:20

team in the country to you. They they scream very good

50:22

team that could have a fun

50:24

season, but that's about

50:26

it. So let let me go through and and mention some

50:28

name state. And let's just let's just do like

50:30

a like a a gut check,

50:32

a a vibe check, like, does it feel

50:34

right? So I wanna argue that this might be the

50:36

best team in the country. Alright? Does

50:38

that do you do what I'm doing? It's

50:40

just like Does it feel right when I say it? When I say that

50:42

Houston, let's just start with

50:43

Houston. Houston's the best team in the country. I think we

50:45

both agree that feels right. right.

50:48

Yeah. No argument. No argument from me.

50:50

I think that they have the maybe the best coach in the

50:52

country. And I still don't think that they're

50:54

playing their best basketball, which is kind of encouraging

50:56

because they're gonna get there by March.

50:58

So, Houston has not peaked yet either, which

51:00

I feel good

51:00

about. I'll I'll just go down the Kim

51:03

Palm list. How about that? Where

51:05

does that work?

51:07

Connecticut UConn, That

51:09

feels right.

51:09

Right. Yeah. Yeah.

51:12

That feels good to me. Yeah.

51:15

Tennessee. Tennessee's third. If I said Tennessee is

51:17

the best I could say the rankings throughout everything else to me, but Tennessee

51:20

volunteers are the best team in

51:22

the country.

51:23

Phil's right. Just because they have the guard play in the

51:25

defense, which when you talk about March, I think that they

51:28

have the formula. So in my

51:30

head, I hear Tennessee's

51:32

the best a country and you're gonna get no argument from me. And maybe that's crazy.

51:34

Maybe some people would say they don't have enough offense to

51:36

firepower, but in my mind, they have the pieces

51:38

to win a title.

51:39

good framing it. It's like if someone said that this team's the

51:42

best team in the country, do you do you

51:44

care enough to wanna argue

51:45

back? You know? And in Tennessee, I wouldn't. I'd be

51:47

like, yeah, you know. You

51:49

might be right. Yeah. That's that's

51:50

That makes a lot of sense to

51:53

me. Now, Tennessee,

51:55

the transitive committee which I believe is just made up of you

51:57

and I. Should point out that Carrie's rights. Carrie's

52:00

rights. Carrie's rights. She's the head of the

52:02

transitive committee. Tennessee

52:05

lost a Colorado or in the early in the season

52:07

date, and Colorado just lost a

52:10

cow. Our thoughts

52:12

on that. Boy. A

52:14

Board mission never mind.

52:16

It's just a scammer. Frogs. Uh-huh.

52:20

Number four on Ken Pompe,

52:24

UCLA.

52:27

See, you know you know you know me. You know

52:29

me. I'm a big Hammy Hakez Jalen Clark guy.

52:31

I think that they're two of the best wings

52:33

in the country. I really think Tiger Campbell is what

52:35

you want in March. So for me, I would have

52:38

no argument. I would say I could see it.

52:40

I I The only problem

52:42

that I have at UCLA

52:44

being number four right there is that I think that

52:46

there's another Pac twelve team I would put in front

52:48

of them. So it'd be hard

52:50

because as I'm arguing for UCLA,

52:52

all I'm thinking about is the frontcourt of

52:53

Arizona. Is it that I would I would be open

52:55

up. Hold on. Isn't that the a that's the old

52:57

ACC move, though, as you you pick one team

52:59

to be the best the conference and other best in the

53:00

country. Right. Sounds good. Conference Carolina's

53:03

best in the country.

53:05

Yeah. So maybe we just have

53:08

that going on. Arizona is the best team of the Pac twelve,

53:10

but UCLA is the best team in the country. What about that?

53:12

There you go. Is there

53:13

a reality you can I

53:14

can live in that world even though I think it might be I think it might be reversed. I think it might

53:16

be the other way I think it might be

53:17

the best team in the back twelve in Arizona is the best team in

53:19

the country.

53:21

UCLA and and You got it.

53:23

Only two teams according to Kim

53:26

Palm algorithm, which I am

53:28

no closer understanding. At

53:30

least release the

53:32

formula there. Everyone listed,

53:34

it's like, he it's literally released. You

53:36

can click on the thing and read the formula. And I'm

53:38

like, yeah. I I actually don't know if it is,

53:40

but I Even if I could read it, I just

53:42

I don't think it would my brain would freeze

53:45

after, like, three seconds. You

53:47

sail in, you count only to top

53:49

ten in both offense and

53:50

defense. Efficiency. So the

53:52

only two teams that have are a

53:55

lead at both both into the court

53:57

there. Alright. Number five, Kansas. We just

53:59

talked about them, but if Kansas is the best human

54:01

country. Did I feel right? It feels right. III

54:02

let it

54:02

slide. I mean, there

54:03

there's some holes there, but I feel like at the end of the

54:05

day, Kansas is talented enough for me to be okay

54:08

with

54:09

it. So okay that. The the top five that we named so

54:11

far, I'm like That feels Yeah. IIII

54:14

think all five feel okay.

54:16

Six Texas I don't think I

54:18

I think hedge all of the lines. No. It's wrong. I feel

54:20

wrong. So let me just

54:20

say. I I'm not gonna get in the details, but it just

54:22

feels wrong. I don't I don't know wrong. But what happened?

54:25

I but it feels

54:26

wrong. Number six. Situation

54:28

in Austin, to me, is

54:30

wrong. That's wrong. For

54:33

me. For me. I don't I

54:35

don't wanna come across as, like, a pearl clutcher, like, whatever,

54:37

shoe signature or whatever

54:39

else. But

54:42

It's not good. So No. It's not good. And Texas is

54:44

the best

54:45

in the country fraud. No

54:48

way. No. Number seven is

54:50

Arizona. I think we both agree

54:52

that Arizona might be the I

54:56

if we're talking, like, national title hopes, again, I don't know if

54:58

I can trust Kirkree. He said I went six games in a

55:00

row to not to not just shit down his leg. It's not even shitting

55:02

me down his leg though. She should shut down your leg

55:06

like, to

55:06

me, a guy shitting down his legs is like the moment is too big for him. The moment's not

55:09

too big for Kirk Risa. It's that

55:11

it's

55:12

he he's too big for the moment.

55:16

Like, he wants to be like like, it's not like he turtles

55:18

in big

55:18

moments. It's the exact opposite. He he sticks his

55:20

chest down. He's like, you can't watch this. He

55:23

peed out. He's way too much.

55:25

And it's like, dude, put your feathers down. Nobody needs to see that right now. And

55:27

in fact, I think if if we could

55:29

have a private

55:31

conversation with Kirkissa and Dan Hurley before the NCAA tournament to

55:34

say stop peacocking. Stop peacocking.

55:36

It would be the best thing to happen

55:38

about your Put

55:40

your Cox away, both of you. Yeah.

55:43

Numbers but Arizona, I if

55:45

you wanted to argue Arizona is the best team in

55:47

the country, that is is an

55:49

argument that I'm not interested in having against you, you

55:51

know. Right. So III think that

55:53

plays. Number

55:55

eight, Purdue. I I'm gonna

55:57

say for me, it's an it's they are not the best team

55:59

in the country. I'm gonna I would agree with that. I

56:01

don't I don't

56:03

III would start. If someone said produce the best team in the country, I'd say hold

56:06

it right there. Let's talk about this. They have the best

56:08

player in the country. There you

56:08

go. They have the best player.

56:09

They're not the best team

56:11

in the country. Yeah. I don't think they're the best team. They're

56:13

among they're among they're one of them once. One of them

56:16

among They're only the best

56:17

team even though they have to. They

56:19

are not them.

56:21

Yeah. Yeah. And then

56:23

I guess, like, after that, I I

56:25

would imagine the rest of these are no.

56:27

Right? Alabama, Arkansas -- No.

56:30

-- Virginia, No. Ohio State at twelve

56:31

tables. Yeah. Delition. I wish you look at

56:34

that. No. If you look

56:36

at that,

56:37

they lose Carolinas, so that's great for the resume.

56:40

Please please push them. Oh. I didn't know how

56:41

I was state

56:42

to be Purdue by the way. That that's, like, I'm

56:44

all lies on January fifth. I

56:47

I don't wanna get ahead of myself, but the

56:50

haters would would love

56:52

I the haters would

56:54

love to hear this that I

56:56

I am forecasting a situation where I'm very, very, very, very high on

56:59

Ohio State in March. Love it. I'm

57:01

not there yet. A lot of pieces

57:03

to put together. Obviously, Carolina

57:06

Games things. Young team. Still trying to figure out rotations.

57:08

Still trying to figure out

57:10

defense a lot of the

57:12

time. This

57:14

is a starter still, ice likely. Right?

57:15

He's still, like, coming back. He's back. Yeah. He's back,

57:18

but, like, but I don't know if he's still gonna

57:20

start anymore.

57:22

For forget it. Like, that's what I mean. We're trying to figure out, like like, because Bryce

57:24

SensiML wasn't starting for most of the season because

57:26

all he wanted to do was get buckets. But then, at

57:28

a certain

57:29

point, Holt was, like, Alright. This

57:31

guy's insane. Yeah. I got to start this guy.

57:32

Yeah. I also think, listen, I'm gonna I'm gonna just call

57:34

him out. This is not a I'm not reporting

57:38

private conversations and making them public, but this is just my read on it. I'm gonna

57:40

call out hold and say that he started since the

57:43

ball in the bench because he was trying to

57:45

hide him from NBA scouts.

57:48

And he was hoping that NBA scouts flipping through the channels

57:50

would watch the first four minutes of Ohio State Games

57:52

and and be like, yeah, there's

57:54

no pro pro prospects here.

57:56

Change the channel, and then he brings since above the bench. But I think

57:58

the cat is out of the bag today.

58:00

And I think Right. I

58:04

think the blame falls squarely on on KOC and

58:06

Gavoni and and these draft guys who

58:08

I swear like have a personal vendetta against me.

58:10

I don't know why they keep doing this how

58:13

stay guards. When I I'm begging them to,

58:15

like, stop. Just stop. What what's

58:18

that video that Okay. Yeah. See you. From

58:20

Westbrook. Just so Westbrook. Just stop.

58:23

Actually, that's a good

58:24

meme. I I might bust that out.

58:27

Next time, KOC tweets about Bryce SensiML.

58:29

Wanna tweet that But,

58:32

yeah, he's he's he's he's been so good that they they they gotta start

58:34

him. So, like, I don't know who they're bumping because, like,

58:36

Sean McNeal do do you bump Sean McNeal's offense

58:38

to the bench? Do you bump, vice versa?

58:41

don't But but but Ohio State, we we Eugene

58:44

Brown's back. We're fully

58:47

healthy. And I understand It's

58:49

a lot of the country. We're we're not exactly a team that you're

58:52

worried about, but I just want to say, dude,

58:54

the vibes are good around Columbus. We'll know more after

58:56

Thursday, but

58:58

but it's it's trending in the right direction. I think these young guys are gonna grow up and

59:00

throughout the big ten play. Like, I I after

59:02

we we beat the shit out in Northwestern, I'm watching

59:04

Andy Katz and Mike DeCorsie.

59:06

And Rafael Davis. And Cats is just like, again, Andy

59:08

Katz, please stop. I gotta get him on the show

59:10

and tell him to stop. He's pushing the idea that Ohio State

59:13

might be the favorite to win the

59:15

big ten now. Man. Like, if we're right up there with Purdue and all

59:17

the I'm like, what the hell's going on? What happened? He's not wrong.

59:20

He's not wrong.

59:21

When I when I look at the

59:23

Big Ten, I'm like, you know,

59:25

you said that there was this big gap between Purdue

59:27

and everybody else, so that's what the expectation

59:29

was. It obviously is not. And then the

59:31

next tier is, like, Wisconsin, Ohio State. You

59:33

know what I mean? Yeah. Illinois, as we both know, very close to my heart,

59:35

but I don't know if someone stabbed them in the heart. I don't know

59:37

what happened to them in MSG, but things

59:40

wouldn't arrive.

59:42

Think what happened to Ohio State MSG was actually great minus the fact that since the

59:44

ball played so well in front of all the

59:46

scouts who would go to such a game. So

59:50

he's a first round pick. So if you're holding at this point,

59:52

you're like, this might be my one year with sense of

59:54

ball. Let's lean into it. Let's let him try to win

59:56

big team player of the year. Let's

59:58

let our least big ten freshman of the

59:59

year. And then let's go for a run. So -- Yeah. -- I like the

1:00:01

Buc guys. I'm not

1:00:02

saying they're the

1:00:02

best team in the country, but I like the Buc

1:00:05

it. We got to play defensive. We got we got the number two offense

1:00:07

on Kimball. Number two ranked offense. I

1:00:10

like offensive efficiency. With Malachi

1:00:12

brand, I'm leaving early,

1:00:14

and that's like I said, like, that's that's the part that'll keep me up at night what

1:00:16

if Malaga branded was on this name? How

1:00:18

could it be? What if ICE

1:00:22

likely because like I said, either big deal or ice ice likely wouldn't have

1:00:24

transferred. We wouldn't have gotten them in the

1:00:26

portal if Brandon was back. But

1:00:29

yeah. At Brandon, And then, I I don't

1:00:31

know, take your pick. Lou is one of those two guys. I need

1:00:34

I need more Felix Akbara

1:00:36

too. You know, a lot of people that

1:00:38

they don't wanna see him out there, but he's wearing number thirty

1:00:40

four for a reason. The guy I'm not thank

1:00:42

you, Tate. I like that.

1:00:45

I like that. There's different ways.

1:00:48

I I'm not ready to peacock. I'm not

1:00:50

sitting here saying, like, we're we're ready

1:00:51

to be. Maybe

1:00:53

maybe I sit you. Skurkreesen

1:00:56

and Dan Hurley down, but Yeah. I'm not. I'm not. I

1:00:58

was like You can't be cocked

1:01:00

too much. I don't wanna I don't want people to take this the wrong way. I'm not like I'm

1:01:02

not peacocking about a house state. I'm just saying,

1:01:04

you you'd be happy

1:01:06

to know that trending the direction where I

1:01:08

will be I will have expectations of March. So that way,

1:01:11

when I get my dick kicked in by, you

1:01:13

know, some big major that I've distributed that I had

1:01:15

there or some team that I

1:01:17

talked all all starts about season, and they beat us by

1:01:19

twenty in the tournament. I I'm here to

1:01:21

report that there will be maximum amounts of pain

1:01:23

felt on my end.

1:01:26

So the the the friends of the program love to hear that say. That's when they're they're

1:01:28

they're at their happiest when we're at our saddest.

1:01:30

So there you go. You'll be happy to

1:01:32

know that come march, III have gone from

1:01:35

the start of the season, I just wanted to make the tournament that

1:01:37

is that by March, I don't think I'm gonna be

1:01:39

feeling that way. I think I'm gonna be talking myself

1:01:42

into Houston. Yeah. We're going

1:01:44

to Houston. And that's really all you want. And I

1:01:46

think, like, I guess, that's what I'd

1:01:48

say to produce. Like, stop stop

1:01:50

having, like, a national title

1:01:52

mentality and just all all you

1:01:54

really want unless you are, like, I

1:01:56

think, Houston this year, I think, like, Yukon

1:01:58

maybe has played their way into

1:02:00

that position. Maybe there are a handful of others, but III don't think there are a lot of

1:02:02

teams that are like, we must win the national title. All you

1:02:04

really want is on

1:02:06

Monday morning, Selection Sunday

1:02:08

happens, the bracket comes out, you have all

1:02:10

that emotions, you go sleep on it, you

1:02:12

wake up Monday morning, you're staring at a

1:02:14

blank bracket. You wanna look at your

1:02:16

team and you wanna look at the bracket and you

1:02:18

wanna say we have a path. We have a you wanna

1:02:20

talk yourself into a a

1:02:22

situation where you might

1:02:24

be able maybe under the right circumstances, have

1:02:26

a path. And that's all you really want. And

1:02:28

Purdue will certainly have that. And that's all you

1:02:30

can ask

1:02:31

for, you know? That's what I can ask. And

1:02:33

if you're Purdue and you go to the final four, that is a major,

1:02:36

major, major, major

1:02:38

win because the Indiana

1:02:40

people like coach Titus who we love in the door,

1:02:42

they can't make that joke anymore. Right? I mean,

1:02:44

and and they can't laugh at you and your

1:02:46

misery. I mean, at least you made a

1:02:48

final four Boy, everyone

1:02:50

handle a final

1:02:51

four, but come on. Yeah. I think my dad

1:02:53

I think my dad set a record for most

1:02:55

crying laugh and emojis texted

1:02:58

to me. Yesterday as Purdue football loss sixty three

1:03:00

to seven

1:03:02

to

1:03:04

to LSU was. Yeah.

1:03:06

Sixty three to seven in their bowl game.

1:03:09

And then the football the

1:03:11

the I'm sorry. The basketball team obviously loses

1:03:13

the records. Rig number one. But what's funny

1:03:15

is my dad has

1:03:18

become like a huge this this is the the funniest part

1:03:20

about my I I don't mean to derail the

1:03:22

show. We we could I just

1:03:24

wanted to quickly say this because it cracks me up. The funniest part of all my dad's hatred for Purdue

1:03:26

is that it's so he

1:03:30

surrounded himself with people he loves that love for

1:03:33

or hard for it. Like, my mom my mom's obviously

1:03:35

the holiday. But

1:03:38

I learned recently, Tate, that Abe O'Connell's mother-in-law. I

1:03:41

think he's married or or future mother-in-law.

1:03:43

The starting quarterback at Purdue, is

1:03:48

is is a close personal friend of my

1:03:50

family. And my dad's like

1:03:52

she's the sweetest lady ever.

1:03:54

I talked to her about football like

1:03:56

yada yada yada. And I'm just like, this is

1:03:58

this is to this

1:03:59

man, like, the one thing he hates the most and he

1:04:01

just attracts nothing, but Right.

1:04:03

Like a so clearly, the suspicion of keep my

1:04:06

enemies close. Like -- Yeah. -- no idea because he

1:04:08

said just weak, gregarious guy that that

1:04:10

he is meanwhile

1:04:12

crying, laughing at their misery. So

1:04:12

A. N. O'Connell doesn't play in the bowl game, and my dad was

1:04:15

like, this is awesome. Like, I can actually be happy now

1:04:17

because, like, it's been weird for me all season

1:04:19

to cheer. It's pretty football because I

1:04:21

I love his his fan, you know -- Right. -- and all that. Now they lose sixty

1:04:23

three to seven. So unleash the current life

1:04:25

and emotions. I was like, dad, what time

1:04:27

does I use This

1:04:29

guy used a bowl game. He's like shut up son.

1:04:32

Shut up doesn't matter.

1:04:34

Anyway, what else is there to

1:04:36

talk about? What else do you wanna hit?

1:04:39

Can I quickly just hit

1:04:41

on something that is that is happening

1:04:43

on tobacco road that I think we should

1:04:45

point out as pure journalist here?

1:04:47

I think Duke made a big mistake.

1:04:50

I think Duke hired the wrong guy. I I don't

1:04:52

know if you've ever seen the the Dewey Cox story

1:04:54

where where his father is, like, the wrong

1:04:57

son died. Think that is gonna be mister

1:05:00

Kaye. That is gonna be mister Kaye very soon because North Carolina

1:05:02

in case you missed

1:05:03

it, they went up to Purdue.

1:05:05

They

1:05:05

play the cable brothers who are

1:05:08

literally, you know, just it it

1:05:10

was like play But they

1:05:10

went up to pit. They went up to pit. Yeah. To play the

1:05:12

cable. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They they lose this

1:05:15

game they were up the entire game, but then as

1:05:17

as things play out, just, you know, North

1:05:19

Carolina collapse is basically pit

1:05:22

wins, cable wins,

1:05:24

another one. Against Hubert Davis. You get all of the the Duke people are chirping

1:05:26

and things like that. But the way

1:05:28

that Jeff Keppel and Jason

1:05:30

Keppel work

1:05:32

the officials in this

1:05:34

game is something that was straight

1:05:36

out of the coach k playbook. You know what I mean?

1:05:38

Like, I've never seen anything like it. I wish I could

1:05:40

have seen some BTS of, like, the the

1:05:42

Canada envelope that they gave the officials

1:05:44

before the game, all of these things. And

1:05:46

then I watched Duke play against Wake Forest on

1:05:48

the road, and I see John Shire not even standing

1:05:50

up and coaching just sitting on

1:05:52

the bench. Just being, you know, a fly on the wall is probably the nicest way

1:05:54

to describe it. And then meanwhile, you see Jeff

1:05:56

Capel, you know, trying to threaten

1:05:58

the officials. You know, it's

1:06:00

a big slapping the

1:06:02

table, the media table as hard as he

1:06:03

can, throwing pins at

1:06:06

people in

1:06:08

the crowd, And

1:06:09

you say to yourself, I mean, this is if

1:06:11

this if this was at Duke, which is

1:06:13

AKA NIKE University, if Jeff Keppel

1:06:16

was running NIKE University, I would be

1:06:18

actually terrified. Because you get the intimidation factor of a

1:06:20

coach on the sideline with that

1:06:22

talent. And oh my god. I mean, that is

1:06:24

scary. I I would

1:06:26

actually be very, very

1:06:28

concerned about the future. And he seems

1:06:30

to have Hubert Davis' number. Jeff

1:06:32

Capel's calling out our defensive schemes that he

1:06:34

learned when he played in

1:06:36

North Carolina He's a freaking spy. Always had him. I do

1:06:38

a Forte leave early because he's a bad

1:06:40

teammate. We all

1:06:42

know this. So to

1:06:43

what? Whoa.

1:06:44

Whoa. Whoa. So you're you're this

1:06:46

is this is friendly fire now. You're you're going

1:06:48

after There is no friendly fire. There there

1:06:50

is no fridge there has only been a foe that has been

1:06:52

that we let him in. Is he a fake tar

1:06:54

heel? The fake heel. We all know

1:06:57

this. Every week. Whoa. Every -- heel

1:06:59

turn. It's a heel turn. Every

1:07:01

go look up articles back in the day

1:07:03

about Jeff Keppel or Jason Keppel in the way that

1:07:05

he treated Joseph

1:07:07

Forte. Basically, know what I mean, Joseph Forte wanted to come back was Okay.

1:07:10

Okay. Not to derail your

1:07:12

ramp. Like, I need the power

1:07:14

rankings of Carolina,

1:07:16

the the the ostracized yeah.

1:07:18

The the guys that have been

1:07:20

cut out of the Carolina

1:07:22

community. Is McCann's one? Mackstar

1:07:24

Jai. Every time I mention Mackstar Jai, you

1:07:26

you shutter a little bit. So I I he

1:07:28

he's got a really quick. Right? The reason that

1:07:30

Mackstar is in there. First of all, Mackstar is still part

1:07:32

of the family. But MacTarr had two moments in time

1:07:34

that you'll never be forgiven for. One, he told

1:07:36

MJ to his face that a chemo lives where

1:07:38

I was to go. Okay. North

1:07:41

Carolina. You're You're dead to us. We hate you

1:07:43

forever. Also, you didn't win anything. So, you

1:07:45

know, there's a certain level of like, what a waste

1:07:47

of time for you to come here and then lose

1:07:50

for us. And and then the other time, there was a story that,

1:07:52

like, he was trying to get in a

1:07:54

party that, like, during the NBA finals at

1:07:56

one point, and MJ was up on

1:07:58

the balcony. And

1:08:00

MacTarr was, like, let us in, you know, da da da da,

1:08:02

and Jordan, like, basic Nordim. It was, like, I'm

1:08:04

not letting you in. So he just he tried to use his

1:08:06

Carolina privilege

1:08:08

too far That's the reason why, you know, MacTarr is in the conversation.

1:08:10

But UConn, McCann's I still love

1:08:12

McCann's even though all of the the the things he

1:08:14

said, it was all for attention. We all

1:08:16

understood that. He also

1:08:18

dated a Kardashian and went

1:08:19

crazy. People forget this. I'm sure.

1:08:19

Yeah. Blame it. It was one of the early Kardashian alerts is that

1:08:22

people don't talk about

1:08:24

enough. So I give

1:08:26

him a cancer pass even though he sold that list, but Jason Capell might be number one. I mean, just the he

1:08:28

behaves, he called our

1:08:31

team soft last year. I

1:08:34

mean, he goes in the media after the game says,

1:08:36

like, I know all their defensive schemes. It's like, yeah,

1:08:38

you know. They care a lot to shut up.

1:08:40

Like, that's not a brother. That's a family

1:08:44

member. You're a spy. Your brother is a bad

1:08:46

man. We all know that. But I'm telling

1:08:48

you, if I was due, if

1:08:50

I was a real iron duke. Actually, never mind.

1:08:52

Iron dukes don't want to to be a part of the bag.

1:08:54

Let let's talk about if you're just like

1:08:58

a casual Walmart duke fan, Jason Cape Jeff Capell was

1:09:00

the man with his brother Jason Capell on the

1:09:02

sideline to get in the head of Carolina fans.

1:09:05

That was the move. And I watched that game, you

1:09:08

know, and and I said to myself,

1:09:10

if this combination had come to fruition,

1:09:12

if coach k let the bag really

1:09:14

happen, I would be very worried Titus, but luckily he's a pit,

1:09:17

and pit's a quad one team. So it's not even

1:09:19

a bad loss. People forget

1:09:20

this. Pit is quad one and they're

1:09:22

three in o in the ACC, so wasn't

1:09:24

gonna bring up I wasn't gonna bring up

1:09:26

pick to pick. I wasn't gonna bring it up that you guys lost a pick because I I thought I

1:09:32

was gonna That was that Christmas good to you. I was just

1:09:34

gonna let it fly under the radar. All the all the shit that's happened between last show and now that I just thought

1:09:36

maybe we could It's

1:09:38

the holidays.

1:09:39

A lot of weird stuff happened,

1:09:41

but a new game, Mark Titus, a

1:09:43

new game at Pitt. With coach mister Kay's son-in-law

1:09:45

on the call,

1:09:48

Chris Petola. I mean, get

1:09:50

out of here. Like, who who was who was scheduling this? Like, it happened. Like, this

1:09:52

Was the biggest Was Roy at the game, by the

1:09:54

way? I didn't watch it. Was Roy at the game?

1:09:59

Was at a Patriot League game for God knows what

1:10:00

reason, but he was watching another basketball game.

1:10:02

He was not at the game. That's smart.

1:10:04

Roy Roy, I I don't I

1:10:06

I hate to to report this see,

1:10:09

but I think you should know this, that there are rumblings.

1:10:11

I don't know if the

1:10:13

friends of the program

1:10:16

are saying you, but they are

1:10:18

we're we're talking behind your backdate that there's some rumblings that people are starting to to

1:10:20

put together the narrative that Caloi

1:10:23

is the new sister Jane. No.

1:10:28

That's what people saw.

1:10:29

III lost my

1:10:31

voice. That's that's gross.

1:10:33

That's insane basketball fan. He misses him. He came past him by. He just wants

1:10:35

to keep watching it. We respect him. We

1:10:38

love him. That that's all it

1:10:40

is. But

1:10:42

I will say during the broadcast.

1:10:44

Mister case son-in-law at

1:10:46

one point is talking about and

1:10:49

I this happened, Titus. I don't know if you

1:10:51

saw this. During the broadcast, He's talking about puff

1:10:53

Johnson. Right? Puff Johnson on the team's son or brother of

1:10:55

Cam Johnson. His nickname is

1:10:58

puff because he like Coco puffs. His real name is Donovan Johnson. So they tell a story.

1:11:00

They're like, his mom wants it to be called Donovan,

1:11:02

but everyone calls him puff because he like CocoPuffs.

1:11:06

Yada yada. Spotola, mister Kay's son-in-law, says,

1:11:08

Coco Buff suck. That's what he

1:11:10

says. He's he's like Coco

1:11:13

Buff suck. So you're talking

1:11:15

about a kid who's nickname, like CocoPuffs. He's like CocoPuffs

1:11:17

are trash. Like, everyone knows that.

1:11:19

And I'm like, what is this guy

1:11:21

even talking about? And he goes, everyone

1:11:23

likes fruity pebbles. And then luckily

1:11:25

whoever he's calling the game with was like, so should we call you Fruity? And he's like, I didn't call

1:11:27

that before. And I'm

1:11:29

like, so from now

1:11:31

on, if you have Frudy

1:11:33

Spatola on the

1:11:34

call. I did not see that. That's amazing. It's it's Frudy Spatola away

1:11:39

from Carolina Games. In the funniest

1:11:41

part oh, in my red, the funniest part about all of this is that North Carolina's next

1:11:43

game is at home against Wake Forest. And

1:11:46

I say to myself, Well,

1:11:48

hopefully, Frudy Spotola isn't calling the game. Luckily, he's not Mark Titus. But guess

1:11:50

who is? And I this is not even a joke. They were

1:11:53

like, you know what? ESPN's

1:11:55

like, you know what? Coach Kaes, son-in-law,

1:11:57

maybe a bridge too far for Carolina fans. They don't wanna hear him. We'll we'll help you guys out.

1:11:59

On the next call, we're gonna have

1:12:01

Corey Alexander, which I

1:12:03

mean, come on. And

1:12:06

Randolph Childress. So Randolph Childress, again, who

1:12:09

famously say, get up off the ground after

1:12:11

crossing up a North Carolina player, is

1:12:13

now gonna call the wake far as North Carolina game.

1:12:15

I'm sure in a very unbiased objective fashion. Sure that'll be fun

1:12:17

to listen to for all the fans at home.

1:12:19

Who is scheduling

1:12:21

this? Who who hates Carolina ESPN

1:12:24

because get this man out of my face? That's

1:12:26

all I know. I don't know who's making these

1:12:28

decisions, but literally get this man so far out

1:12:30

of my face. Indivrant. It's

1:12:32

Frudy Spotola. Insperacy Corner potato is my

1:12:34

favorite segment we did. Oh my god.

1:12:36

It's never it's never planned. It just

1:12:38

kinda

1:12:38

happens. And then take a look. Taking

1:12:41

this crazy. I'm just waiting to get that off my chest because I'm

1:12:43

watching this game. I'm like, is anyone else seeing this? Am I the crazy one? Am

1:12:45

I the bad

1:12:48

guy

1:12:48

here? Maybe I am, but goodness gracious, Mark Titus.

1:12:50

How does someone talk from

1:12:51

the pit vantage point the entire game?

1:12:53

It'll drive it. It'll drive

1:12:55

a man insane. Especially if he's

1:12:58

related to mister k in Rand. To what? No. Was the offensive foul

1:13:01

that was

1:13:04

the worst On on leaky black, I think. Right.

1:13:06

It was the worst shirt charge god I've ever seen in my

1:13:07

life. Right. That was so Like, it

1:13:09

was back to the bad guy part of

1:13:12

this where like,

1:13:14

I understand what the cables are doing. And they're the with of I

1:13:18

know how this works.

1:13:21

I get it. It's home court. We did it. We we see it.

1:13:23

We respect it. I understand it. But at the same time, my god. How how

1:13:25

in the how in my face

1:13:28

is that? the

1:13:31

my mind. But were the officials bad

1:13:33

both ways is my question? No, they were

1:13:35

not. They were bad.

1:13:38

They were very bad.

1:13:40

You could put me on the

1:13:43

record for that. They were bad one way. Oh my god.

1:13:49

I'm,

1:13:49

like, sick as I'm young about this too. Yeah. I

1:13:51

I it's so relying though to explain to the people what's going on with North Carolina basketball

1:13:53

recruiting? Because I see our our

1:13:55

friend Joe Tipton

1:13:58

Yeah. Just just pumping out Carolina content

1:14:01

lately. Is this next year? Is this

1:14:03

two years away? Like, what's

1:14:05

going on? Carolina keeps laying in

1:14:07

recruits? Carolina has the number one class

1:14:07

far in twenty twenty four. We we

1:14:10

So that's not this year but next

1:14:12

year. Not this

1:14:14

year but next year. Okay. Alright. We're building we're building

1:14:15

for the future. Who has the Kentucky

1:14:18

has the class next year. Right? Kentucky

1:14:22

is the one we have. Yeah. Yeah. So That's good. Yeah. that's

1:14:23

calculated. To win many recruiting

1:14:26

wars these days. So it's nice.

1:14:28

This new kid,

1:14:30

there's just committees of, you know, four star plays the five. name is

1:14:32

James Brown. Great name. We

1:14:34

love that. Elliot Cadeau is the

1:14:36

the top point card in the class five

1:14:38

star. He just committed to North Carolina.

1:14:41

He's Swedish plays for the Swedish national team. Oh,

1:14:43

really? Yeah. So we got some got some good characters in it. Yeah. That's why he

1:14:45

looks like a legit point guard. Like, he

1:14:48

looks like He

1:14:51

texted me. The Raymond Belton of those, oh, you know, guards I got

1:14:53

back in the day. Swedish chef is what you

1:14:56

said. Right? Yeah. That's what I

1:14:58

wanna look

1:14:58

here. Or the Swedish fish. Know

1:15:01

what I mean? We'll see

1:15:02

what happens. See how

1:15:03

slippery is when you guys do the do the do the do the Sam Kessel

1:15:05

celebration when he hits big

1:15:07

shots and Swedish meatballs. Right.

1:15:10

It would be great. What? There's lots

1:15:12

of options. I'm excited for the future, but

1:15:14

also in the present time, please get

1:15:16

coach k sudden low out of my

1:15:18

face.

1:15:19

That's all.

1:15:19

Any shout outs otherwise? Man,

1:15:21

I want this up. I want

1:15:23

to shout out

1:15:26

a for the shot in Freud that we had as

1:15:28

football fans. Because you and I are both

1:15:30

football fans, both of our teams. There's

1:15:33

one rule that I had. Dude, a ball, which

1:15:35

is never have a six point lead. I would rather

1:15:37

I like like, if you have a

1:15:39

six point

1:15:40

lead, you might as well just be done.

1:15:42

I mean, you know you're gonna lose

1:15:43

-- Yeah. Worst lead in all sports.

1:15:46

Both of our teams in this game late had six point leads. Carolina gets Oregon,

1:15:48

yourself against Georgia

1:15:51

and the playoffs. And I

1:15:53

just wanna say, you're welcome to the fans that love

1:15:55

seeing our misery because those are the most miserable finishes in bowl seasons that I've seen, and it happened on our

1:15:57

watch, on our hand. So shout out

1:16:00

to us. I

1:16:03

I am strangely taken it well. I I wasn't

1:16:05

I wasn't New Year's Eve.

1:16:07

I was distraught.

1:16:11

A lot of a lot of replaying the game

1:16:13

and looking at at certain moments and it's, you

1:16:15

know, the time out of the day. Yeah. I'm I'm crunching all

1:16:17

to twenty two and I'm like, that was a

1:16:19

great time out by Kirby. Obviously.

1:16:23

I do

1:16:24

think, Marvin Harris, I I the

1:16:25

way targeting is called, like, I I guess,

1:16:28

like, I see why they picked

1:16:30

up the flag. Obviously, as as a bias buck,

1:16:32

I found out, like, I wish you would've called a targeting

1:16:34

on that. I wish I I just you

1:16:37

just wish you got something, I guess. Is is

1:16:39

where what what sucks is, like, if you're you're you're best player, who Marvin Harrison

1:16:41

is the best player, and I understand CJ Stroud

1:16:43

is the highest

1:16:43

man, finalist, and

1:16:46

all. But I I check I watched enough Ohio

1:16:47

State to know that Marvin Harrison Drive I was saying that all

1:16:50

season. I was like, if there's one guy that should win the Hyattsville

1:16:52

for Ohio State, it's

1:16:54

Marvin Harrison, not CJ Stroud. He's he's

1:16:56

he's the best player on the team by

1:16:58

far. He's he's he's how he did win the Malinicoff award is is hilarious to

1:17:03

me and and whatever. So when he when

1:17:06

I guess, like, the mindset is less,

1:17:08

like, I think that

1:17:10

that plays targeting. It's more, like,

1:17:12

that's bullshit that we lose our receiver and we don't even

1:17:14

get anything out of this. Like, at least give us a silver line item

1:17:18

like an automatic first down or or we we don't even need don't even go the yards. Like,

1:17:20

what if you call targeting? The guy gets

1:17:22

to stay in the game. We don't we

1:17:24

don't even get it in the yard. Just

1:17:26

give us a new first down. Something. Like,

1:17:29

we gotta get something out of this. So that

1:17:31

night, III went back and, like, replayed everything and

1:17:35

was, like, shit. We were we were one moment away, like, twelve

1:17:37

different moments. But then, honestly,

1:17:39

like, it felt if I felt a

1:17:41

little bit probably how you felt in the

1:17:43

National Title game, when Carolina

1:17:45

choke the way the game against Kansas and everyone's just clowning you for choking away and you're like, I don't know,

1:17:47

man. I'm kind of proud of

1:17:50

the guys. We're running on

1:17:52

fumes. You know,

1:17:54

like, it is what it is. That Like, be fingers. But

1:17:56

at the same time, do we by by

1:17:58

the end of the game, we were down

1:18:03

our top two wide receivers Smith and Jigma and Jigma didn't play

1:18:05

and has, you know, has barely played all

1:18:08

season. But We're

1:18:11

him and Marvin Harrison are out. Our top three running back

1:18:13

state were out by the end of

1:18:16

the game.

1:18:18

Our starting tight end was out. And we're still, like, you know,

1:18:20

up up whatever it was on the number one. We just

1:18:22

had to kick the win the

1:18:23

game. And if we

1:18:24

had to kick the win the game,

1:18:25

you know, we could try to get him

1:18:27

closer other than fifty yards there's

1:18:29

a chance that we're not even talking about this. You know, we're talking

1:18:31

about this. Yeah. And you go into the game saying we're gonna lose by four touchdowns in

1:18:36

Georgia's gonna smoke us. We don't belong in the

1:18:38

playoffs anyway. And that's all the conversation. All those people that are saying that Ohio State sucks and is

1:18:40

soft against Michigan added. And you

1:18:42

got it. And then, you know,

1:18:45

at the time, maybe they went wrong. But then suddenly, those same

1:18:47

people are are now laughing at a at a miss kick and you didn't beat Georgia and you guys are

1:18:52

you know, So I don't wanna say the goalpost

1:18:54

removed, but maybe that's why no irrevocables missed the kick. You know? Maybe he was trying to hit the movie goalpost

1:18:57

from the Ohio

1:19:00

State haters. Have you thought about that? Noir

1:19:02

Ruggles has brought both of us paying as a kicker. I mean, when he was in North Carolina, he

1:19:04

missed two game winning field

1:19:06

goals against Virginia Tech. That's he

1:19:09

transferred and left and went to Ohio

1:19:10

State, and then he did that. And I'm like, I love the kid. He's very talented. I hate that he had those moments, you

1:19:12

know what I mean. I I like Ruggles,

1:19:14

by the way. I

1:19:15

don't I don't don't

1:19:17

think it was a struggle. Good. I mean, these Ruggles has been awesome, dude. And I don't think it was

1:19:19

a ruggles pro. I

1:19:19

like, this to me was like, I don't

1:19:22

know, pick a shot.

1:19:25

That though, how to say ballboy said that you he

1:19:27

like, they used the wrong ball. Like, he was running out of Well, it was it was weird it felt like struggles

1:19:30

was consulting the holder more

1:19:32

than holder was

1:19:34

consoling him for missing a kick. Right. You

1:19:35

know, like, when he missed it, it was, like, it it was kind of weird reaction to You'll

1:19:38

have to say, well, they never

1:19:40

talked

1:19:43

about it. And I and I, you know, I haven't seen any follow-up. But, like, when the

1:19:45

shot happened, when he missed the kick, they cut to

1:19:47

the sideline right then. And the ballboy is running

1:19:49

out with another ball, like, yelling at the

1:19:51

official as if say, like, it was the

1:19:53

wrong ball, you know. Which I mean, obviously, I would So we should replay the kick then. Right. Right.

1:19:55

That's what I was thinking. That's what I

1:19:58

was thinking. What the

1:20:00

hell? go

1:20:03

Ruggles. Ruggles is Ruggles

1:20:05

is in Ohio State. Jersey's been money

1:20:07

his entire career,

1:20:09

basically. Right. And it's it's like asking a a good shooter

1:20:11

did a half court shot for the win and then he misses and you're

1:20:13

like, why did you miss that? And it's like, I don't know, make a

1:20:16

court a

1:20:18

court a court a court definitely supposed to lottery pick a lottery

1:20:20

pick a

1:20:21

shot. Carmelo makes that shit.

1:20:23

Yeah. Yeah.

1:20:25

Yeah. That was that was my

1:20:27

thoughts. About Noah. I was like, yeah, I mean, like, he did he did, you know, Choke Tech. Like,

1:20:29

it it looked terrible, like, off the foot.

1:20:31

It was miss

1:20:34

immediately, but also, like, I mean, It's a fifty yarder for the winning. It's like, who

1:20:36

who's hitting that kick in that moment?

1:20:38

Boom. Point. Show me the guy. That's

1:20:40

a bit of that Yeah. Justin

1:20:42

Tucker, I guess. I don't know.

1:20:45

So I'm not mad at him. And and I weirdly, like, I I

1:20:47

I'm handling it well too. I'm handling it well. So

1:20:52

it it I'm fine. I'm not I'm

1:20:54

not upset. Pardon? I'm I'm not mad. Buckeye's got some I I honestly,

1:20:56

what it was is, like, most of

1:20:58

the season with the House Day football.

1:21:02

I was not it was not a fun them when would the of And is, what

1:21:04

you know, like, people listening are,

1:21:06

like, rolling their eyes. I understand

1:21:10

and, like, what a tough problem to have that you guys beat

1:21:12

the letter everybody in your complaint about

1:21:14

it. But there's, like, no fire. There's

1:21:16

no pride. It felt like from the player

1:21:18

They're just like a finesse team that just goes through the motions and plays,

1:21:21

you know, like, surgical football. And it can

1:21:23

be fun to watch Stroud,

1:21:25

spray it around or whatever. But you're like, dude,

1:21:27

Do any of these guys, like, really actually care about being here? Is there any

1:21:29

sort of, like, you know like, is

1:21:31

this just like

1:21:33

a try it I I made the analogy to

1:21:35

Kentucky basketball not too long ago, and the more I thought

1:21:37

about the more perfect that it was is, like, why there's

1:21:41

just, like, some soulless feeling to watching this team and this

1:21:43

program right now where you're like, I guess, we're winning, but, like, at

1:21:45

the same time, we never really win the game that

1:21:47

I want us to win. Right. It's

1:21:49

like it's got a mercenary feel

1:21:51

to it. Yeah. Yeah. And not only do we lose

1:21:53

the big gains and we lose them in a way where there's like no pride that we don't go down swinging really and

1:21:55

it's like there's just like this weird energy

1:21:58

around the program right now. So I

1:22:00

guess Even

1:22:02

though we lost a Georgia for the first time in

1:22:04

a while, I felt pride as an alarm where I

1:22:06

was, like, at least these guys are fighting. At

1:22:09

least there's there's some heart being displayed out there.

1:22:11

So in a weird way, III took a mature response. Credit to me. I'm gonna

1:22:13

pat myself on the back. Yeah. Good job. I'm I'm

1:22:15

growing up. Good job by me that I I

1:22:17

was like, you know what? There's we'll we'll

1:22:19

be back next year. And we'll see what happens

1:22:21

then. I don't know. But we're definitely a women's basketball school. I will say

1:22:23

that. We'd be a lot of people are

1:22:25

talking about a high school football season

1:22:28

in Georgia, And a

1:22:30

lot of these people are

1:22:32

supposedly, you know, people that that talk

1:22:34

about equality and talk about, you know,

1:22:39

how how we should be highlighting women's

1:22:41

sports more and how, you know,

1:22:43

all all that sort of thing.

1:22:45

And and I saw a lot of people those people were clowning

1:22:48

on how it stayed losing to Georgia to the football game,

1:22:50

not a peed from them about how the number three ranked

1:22:53

Buc guys beat Michigan and are still undefeated. And our

1:22:55

rollers and, you know, looks like a a

1:22:57

real national title threat in women's basketball. Nobody's

1:23:00

talking about that.

1:23:02

So I just that is true. It's an interesting one.

1:23:04

A lot of people a lot of things

1:23:06

about how much they care about non revenue sports.

1:23:09

But then, you know, when the opportunities arise to

1:23:11

prove it, They shut the hell up. So

1:23:13

-- Alright. -- I just find

1:23:15

that fast scenario. Right. Right. Yeah. Like, airlines

1:23:17

are women's field hockey school, so shout out

1:23:19

there in Madison. There you go. I got

1:23:21

one more shout out. Shout to the chargers. Four

1:23:23

in a row, making the playoffs. I'm

1:23:28

I'm like, getting choked up, just thinking

1:23:30

about it, you

1:23:30

know, the journey. Did you go to the game? Did you go to the the RamsChargers game?

1:23:33

III

1:23:34

was here.

1:23:37

How was there in spirit? I I know I was supposed to go, but I I've been dealing with the sickness, you know, and then I get off

1:23:39

my head about going. I

1:23:42

watch it on TV. Oh,

1:23:46

my god. Battle for LA.

1:23:48

Boy. I mean, we are LA season.

1:23:50

It's it's finally there. Forget the

1:23:52

Super Bowl. Who cares about

1:23:54

that? Head to head. In SoFi Stadium. It's a

1:23:56

bowl. This is it's a This

1:23:58

is my favorite NFL storyline that's

1:24:02

unfolded, is Tape Fraser, chargers season ticket holder, chargers

1:24:04

super fan. Will he go

1:24:06

to a chargers holiday? What

1:24:08

to two this season? What

1:24:11

to two

1:24:11

this season? I was locked in for

1:24:14

every one of two wins, you know. And look, I paid for my parking

1:24:16

and everything down there.

1:24:19

So, like I said, I

1:24:22

was going to go to the game. But as an inch closer, I was like, why is this game not at four o'clock? Why is it at one o'clock?

1:24:24

Too close. Coming on New

1:24:26

Year's Eve. I mean, come on.

1:24:31

But again, bolts up four in a

1:24:33

row, play out. Nobody wants to see

1:24:35

us, Titus. Nobody. Everyone everyone

1:24:37

in

1:24:38

the ass. Including you apparently,

1:24:40

Exactly. Nobody wants to see the chargers. You don't wanna go

1:24:42

see the chargers. I wish there was

1:24:43

a playoff game I could go to, but

1:24:45

we're not gonna get home

1:24:48

playoff to year. But

1:24:50

next year, right? We're we're building towards the future. Love Justin Herbert. The Herbert came to Oregon

1:24:52

game in PECO

1:24:55

Park. That was cool. Love

1:24:57

to see that. Drake. He got to see Drake May early. He felt very much like LeBron

1:24:59

seeing Steph Curry in college. You know, it was like one

1:25:02

of those moments where it's

1:25:04

like, in a few years.

1:25:06

That's my future rival right there. But Oh, Drake, maybe he's officially in can start talking

1:25:08

to Ohio State now that our

1:25:11

season's over. That's interesting. He's He's

1:25:14

gotta go to the NFL next year. I mean, that's he's

1:25:16

got one more year in Carolina Blue where we readily

1:25:18

let him down. Well, I mean, that's all

1:25:21

as you've ever seen. We had a guy that got

1:25:23

flagged because he had to put on the extra Jersey. Did you see this? We had to we had to own special teams, George

1:25:28

Petaway. Had to put on a forty two

1:25:30

Jersey. He's number twenty three to receive the kick because we had another guy at twenty three on special teams. He puts on a jersey.

1:25:33

We didn't

1:25:36

report it. To the official. So we got a flag

1:25:38

that ended up giving a first down to

1:25:39

Oregon. This is real. This happened in a

1:25:39

game. We literally gave we

1:25:42

would have gotten the ball back in

1:25:44

a we were cruising up ten in

1:25:46

the fourth

1:25:47

quarter. But instead, like, things that aren't even possible I I did see that

1:25:49

because I think

1:25:52

the broad cast cuts of the tunnel, and Jeff Capel

1:25:54

will stay in there and he just nod. He just gave a little nod and walked

1:25:55

away. And he and he yeah. It dropped his mouth. He

1:25:57

did it again. I'm like, son

1:25:59

of a bitch. It's guys

1:26:02

everywhere. Yeah. I've never seen anything like it. North Carolina football, they they continue

1:26:04

to lose in

1:26:07

the most fascinating ways I

1:26:10

mean, we lost another game in twenty fourteen.

1:26:12

I was at the game in South

1:26:14

Bend. We were dominating the entire game with

1:26:16

Larry Fedora. We get a roughing the snapper on

1:26:18

a kick that changes the entire cop. I've never heard of that in my entire. What the hell is roughing the snapper?

1:26:21

No one knows. What

1:26:23

the hell is this? Reporting

1:26:25

the number to the official, I I don't know. But that's what we do. So Carolina football

1:26:27

drink. Why do you need to report, dude? It's I thought

1:26:29

that's what the numbers are there. It's like it's on your

1:26:31

jersey right there. Like, do

1:26:35

we I don't think I yeah. They can

1:26:36

give us very much replacements feeling where it's

1:26:38

like, who's number forty two, you

1:26:41

know? And it's like he has no name on

1:26:43

the back. It was ridiculous. So I've never seen that in my

1:26:45

entire life, but anything is possible with carry

1:26:47

on a football. So very

1:26:49

sad. Hate

1:26:51

to see it. I forgot I forgot to mention when

1:26:53

I was talking about how to state football that I I have officially on fire

1:26:55

Ryan Day because a lot of people are asking

1:26:57

me about that. Like, where where does Ryan Day's

1:27:00

employment status staying

1:27:02

with you after losing to Georgia because I said

1:27:05

I had I had on fire I

1:27:07

I fired him after Michigan. We we snuck

1:27:09

into a playoff. I decided to unfire

1:27:11

him and see what happens. I have I

1:27:13

have on fire him and I have extended a one I've extended his

1:27:15

contract by one game. So UConn get

1:27:20

he get I think Ohio State opens that

1:27:22

Indiana next

1:27:23

year, by the way, and for a bit. We'll see.

1:27:25

So I'll give

1:27:26

I'll give him one game. Open up the season

1:27:28

on the road with a new quarterback, and we'll see what you're made of. You

1:27:31

know? I'm not gonna lie. He was coaching, like, he was coaching for

1:27:32

his job. Like, the way that he was react Oh,

1:27:34

yeah, dude. But that but that's like But

1:27:38

that to to to bring it back to, like,

1:27:40

Kentucky and Cal, like, that that was what Ryan

1:27:42

Day was doing with Ohio State is what Kentucky fans want

1:27:44

out of Cal is, like, quit making it's, like, like, Ryan

1:27:46

Day finally was like, I'm gonna stop, like, trying to say the right

1:27:48

thing in the press conference and and stop trying or, like,

1:27:51

be q t with all this and

1:27:53

and point to stats and and, you know, run these goddamn

1:27:55

bubble screens and, like, if, in fact, by the way, Georgia

1:27:57

running a bubble screen and scoring a touchdown

1:27:59

on us was the

1:28:01

most, like, flate current sign of

1:28:04

disrespect I've ever seen. Like, III

1:28:06

can't tell

1:28:06

you, I'm so triggered by bubble screen

1:28:08

state that I I did bubbles, they should

1:28:10

be illegal. I want I want the committee to I

1:28:12

think

1:28:13

you and I should Bad bubbles from our

1:28:15

show. Bad bubbles. The bubble boys are

1:28:17

killing us. I hate bubbles. Like I didn't

1:28:19

realize Kirby smarts. Kirby smarts a bubble boy, and and

1:28:21

he busted out a bubble screen. And I was like, are

1:28:23

you fucking kidding me, dude? That's where we ran forty

1:28:25

of these against Michigan and none of them

1:28:27

were. The first one we see after that, let's take her

1:28:29

to the house.

1:28:30

Are you kidding me? But

1:28:33

finally, Ryan Day, like, some passion and some energy. And

1:28:35

he's like, I'm I'm just gonna wear this. Like, whatever happens to my team

1:28:37

I'm gonna wear. And I think that's what Kentucky fans want out

1:28:39

of cows. Like, just cow, please. We're

1:28:41

begging you. Shut the fuck up

1:28:43

and just, like, bring some actual passion and and and show

1:28:45

us that you care. Like, show us that if if Kentucky doesn't make the tournament that

1:28:48

this is devastating for your life and

1:28:50

your livelihood, the way it is for

1:28:52

us, I think about, like, when

1:28:54

I watch Kentucky, I don't I don't wanna do a Kentucky rant, but I I it is fascinating to what's happening likes

1:29:00

it because I think about when when when I was

1:29:02

at Ohio State, coach Motto would say all the time when he would try to get through to the players. He he's

1:29:04

he's yelling in the locker room. He would

1:29:06

just yell, I can't care more than you.

1:29:10

Like he that was that was one of his favorite things to

1:29:11

say. I can't care more than you. And I remember

1:29:14

sitting there thinking, like, this is so simple, but kind

1:29:16

of profound in

1:29:17

a way that, like, the coach can't

1:29:19

possibly care more about winning in the players or

1:29:21

never the team's never gonna do anything. The the

1:29:23

players have to care about this. And I

1:29:25

feel like that's the mindset that the Kentucky fans have with cows. Like, how the fuck do we care more than you do?

1:29:27

Like, how how is that where we've arrived that

1:29:30

we care about winning when you're the guy

1:29:32

that's

1:29:35

supposed to be setting the culture to you.

1:29:37

You're supposed to be setting the culture. Yeah.

1:29:39

Yeah. We're we're supposed to be sitting here

1:29:41

responding to what you're doing. And instead,

1:29:43

like, we're trying to

1:29:45

And I guess, to bring it back to the analogy of the

1:29:47

I would say football, that was where we were at with Ryan Day. And finally, he

1:29:52

brought it for the Georgia game. And I guess

1:29:54

that's ultimately why, like, I'm upset we lost, but it's like, I don't know, man. Moving forward, there's a sliver of optimism. Now

1:29:56

we lose our quarterback and

1:29:58

we'll see what happens there. But

1:30:01

Anyway, alright, I'll shut up. I had some other shout outs. I wanna

1:30:03

shout out Adam Silver's MBA. This what this man

1:30:05

has done is nothing short of genius. The

1:30:07

way he's juiced a

1:30:11

basketball team. It's

1:30:12

incredible. III it's you

1:30:14

know, we we live

1:30:15

in the Juice era in a lot

1:30:17

of ways in in sports, and tip of the cap to a

1:30:19

lot of these a lot of

1:30:22

these leagues, obviously, Aaron

1:30:24

Judge's home

1:30:26

run race was how about that story, by