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LATER TODAY THE POLECING AUTHORITY

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WILL PUBLISH THE final report of an independent

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review into the cancellation of nine ninety

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nine calls by the guard, the the interim

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report written by former chief inspector

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of police Scotland Derek Penman

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was highly critical of the way that Garthi

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dealt with calls about domestic abuse.

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The Garthi commissioner here, Drew Harris, apologized

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last year for a failure to provide the

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level of policing service that is expected

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when Nolan Blackwell's CEO of the Dublin rape

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crisis center Joins me now, Nolan.

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Thank you for taking our call today. What do you

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expect will be in the final report?

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So we'd have to obviously

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wait and see what comes up out first. But

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undoubtedly, it has already

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been recognized that there

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is serious problem.

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And what I am hoping, we

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will see in the report is

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that the there was sufficient

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information given to the inspectors

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who was carrying

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out the report so that the policing

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authority and, therefore, we the general public

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have an understanding of

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why there was

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such a failure in such

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a crucial service I mean, Keri,

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the reality is that, so for instance, in

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the double negative crisis center, we run the National

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twenty four hour helpline. We know

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how terribly hard it can be

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to make a call at all, even to somebody

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like us a confidential line where

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it's not going to go any farther where people are getting

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help. where people choose

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to call nine ninety nine and ask for

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the Garda Health in relation to

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sexual violence, domestic violence, for

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every sort of internet violence. They are

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making a huge decision. And

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this report hopefully will identify

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why why the system fell

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down. Why guards seem

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to have

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thought it okay to cancel

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calls. Now we actually found out that there

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was that in some ways, the report

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that came out

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in September said some of those

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calls were dealt with. but not

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canceled for some peculiar reason.

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But we do know that there were

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failures in the system, and therefore,

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it's not

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a reliable system. And above

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all else, people need

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to feel

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that the nine ninety nine system

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It's reliable. because Gardy had claimed to the authority

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that no one came to harm as a result

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of of the coal failings of the cancellations.

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Do you expect that that's likely to

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be accepted by this report? Should it be?

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I don't know how they can know that. I don't

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know how they can know when it is clear

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even to them that their recording was

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inadequate at the time. And if we look

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at it just last week,

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the guy ID went back on

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figures that they had for twenty

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twenty, twenty

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twenty one. And I identified that

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when you looked back on them in a slightly

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different way, you could identify a

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domestic element in a lot of sexual

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assault cause. So

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to say that no harm did, where

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they they couldn't even tell because they

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didn't put the information in on the poll system.

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They they couldn't even tell where

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harm might be escalating. I don't

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know how they can be so assured about that.

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But look, if in some way we

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get that assurance, that will be

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good. But I don't know because the

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trouble with anyone calling

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in distress to a nine ninety nine

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call, the same way as if you turn a guard

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face to face. And if you don't get

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a response which shows that people

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understood what you were saying and understood the seriousness

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of it.

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Who knows? They may never call again?

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because they lose faith in the system. And

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what impact has this had at knowing

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on the relationship between the Dublin rate crisis

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center and garthy because I would imagine if

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someone calls you in distress or in dangerous

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situation, that your call

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takers have no option but

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to say to them you must ring 999

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Absolutely.

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That's exactly right.

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So in some ways, well, the the guarantee

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we deal with have

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all recognized that there was

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a real problem identified in relation

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to the nine ninety nine calls. And in fairness,

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we have seen huge advances

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in the specialist units that have

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been set up to deal with sexual violence and

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domestic violence in the commitment of

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the top management of the guard

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ID to dealing with the issue of intimate

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violence. So we see them making progress

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across lots of the

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ways. And actually, we have seen

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members of and go the

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sheer corner. Very distressed about

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this, but we have to call it

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that it is a problem if

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we can't say with confidence and

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if people can't call with confidence

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to that nine ninety nine number. And the guide,

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they accept that we have to say that, and

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and many of them accept it is problem

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that has to be fixed as well.

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Okay.

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Not only we leave it there, but we will await

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the publication of that report by the

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policing authority a little later today,

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Nolan Blackwell, CEO of the Dublin

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rape crisis center. We'll be back after this.

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