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Patriot Stock Podcast. Phil Perry, as

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always, alongside Phil, we get

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some news to get to before we get to the

0:54

meat of the podcast in which we will discuss straight

0:56

May. First things first, Kyle Duggar. Has

0:59

had the franchise, excuse me, transition

1:02

tag applied to him just

1:04

hours before the deadline to apply said

1:06

tag transition tag will

1:10

put him on the hook for thirteen point eight million

1:12

dollars or mean he will get thirteen point eight million

1:15

dollars in a one year salary from the Patriots. The

1:19

franchise tag was seventeen point one million

1:21

dollars. The difference between franchise and transition

1:23

is you get no compensation. If

1:27

another team swoops in, makes Duggar an offer

1:29

that the Patriots choose not to match. And

1:33

then Duggar goes to said new team. The Patriots

1:35

don't match it. They get no compensation. If

1:38

you had franchised him, you would have gotten compensation in

1:40

the form of high draft picks. It

1:44

was reported on Monday to fill

1:46

by Tony Pauline, a veteran writer that

1:48

the Patriots had an offer of thirteen

1:50

million dollars on the table for

1:52

Duggar. So what's your reaction to the transition

1:54

tag and the strategy behind that as opposed

1:57

to franchising? Yeah, it's

1:59

an interesting strategy. to me, it makes sense

2:01

when you're just looking at the dollar values,

2:03

right? The transition tag being about $13 million

2:05

and the franchise tag being $17 million for

2:08

safety, unbelievable amount of

2:10

money. And I know it's just one year and it's

2:14

fully guaranteed, but it is just one year. The

2:17

problem with the franchise tag to

2:19

me, Tom, is that these

2:21

tags, when they are applied, if you

2:23

want to continue discussions with the player

2:26

about a long-term deal, oftentimes the

2:28

starting point in terms of average annual value

2:30

is the franchise tag. Because the

2:33

player gets to say, well, you just told me I'm worth $17

2:35

million for one year. So if we're going

2:37

to do a four-year deal here, it's got to be at

2:39

least 17 times four in

2:42

terms of the total value. And that's too

2:45

much for Kyle Duggar, just plain and simple.

2:47

He's not an all-pro safety. $13

2:50

million is more reasonable. The

2:52

only issue with the transition tag,

2:54

not the only issue. There's

2:57

not a whole lot of benefit to it

3:00

unless, Tom, you felt as though this guy might

3:02

test the open market and

3:04

then not come back to you with

3:06

whatever he found out there. And

3:09

I find that part of it interesting because there's

3:11

no compensation that you get for putting the tag

3:13

on him and then having him sign elsewhere. It's

3:15

basically you get the right of first refusal. If

3:18

he goes to the Steelers and they offer him

3:20

$13 million a year for four years, you have

3:22

the opportunity to match it. That's

3:25

all this really means. And

3:28

so this to me

3:30

might be more about setting his AAV

3:33

figure than

3:36

it means they really, you

3:38

know, want to force him against his will to play in New

3:40

England. Interestingly, pro football

3:42

focus, which does a nice job projecting contracts for

3:44

all the free agents based on the comps that

3:47

are out there, Peg Duggar's

3:49

next contract at being worth four

3:51

years, 53 million. That's $13.25 million

3:53

with $29 million guaranteed. So

3:57

the Patriots offer of 13 was

3:59

in the ballpark. the 13.8 transition

4:01

tag would put him in the ballpark. So

4:04

given that an outside source with no dog in the fight

4:06

is saying 13.25, they all seem to be right in

4:11

that neighborhood. Now, if Duggar gets something for

4:13

15, would that

4:15

be a swaying number for him? Would

4:17

the Patriots want to go to 16? And that

4:20

to me is where we might already

4:22

be getting into what I've called

4:24

the suck tax, to team that

4:26

might not be going anywhere. So

4:28

the 13 that the Patriots had on the table for

4:30

a player who's saying, look, I don't know what you

4:32

guys are doing offensively, I like it here. I've been

4:34

a staple of your defense and I like to

4:36

rod may on the direction we may be going in. But

4:40

I'm now entering my second contract. He was an older

4:42

rookie. So is he 28? I

4:44

believe he's 27. Now

4:47

you might be saying, this is my one

4:49

shot at this big contract. I'm gonna try

4:51

and maximize it as best

4:53

I can right now because we're in a

4:55

rebuild and there's no guarantee that I'm gonna

4:58

be chasing a ring in the next four

5:00

seasons. He is 27. He's

5:03

about to be 28. Oh, we

5:05

will. Maybe this month he'll be 28. We were both right.

5:08

You were making the face that you make sometimes when you're about to

5:10

say something. All

5:12

right, so there's your news of the day on Kyle Duggar.

5:16

Free agency opens next week. We're

5:18

gonna get to free agency in just a second. But

5:20

first, I wanted to download Phil a little bit from

5:22

his trip to the Klombein. And

5:26

it seems to me Phil that the Patriots are gonna

5:28

have to be talked out of a quarterback. You

5:31

look at what's going on with

5:33

the three guys at the top of the

5:35

draft. And unless something goes kablooey with

5:37

one of these three, all

5:39

at the very least are up

5:42

for plenty of conversation. That's Caleb

5:44

Williams, Jayden Daniels and Drake May.

5:46

My concern is that to

5:49

me, one of them has a

5:51

significant gap between himself and the other

5:53

two. I think Williams and Daniels stand

5:55

apart as players with unique skill sets.

5:57

Williams in virtually every way. Daniels,

6:01

in terms of his ability to run as

6:04

well as throw, it's

6:06

just that much better than

6:08

Drake May's. I think it's

6:11

a big gap. And the

6:13

even bigger thing is I don't see the one thing

6:15

that Drake May does that makes

6:17

him a top three pick and

6:19

sets him apart exceptionally from a

6:22

good quarterback. You know, we've heard

6:24

of Justin Herbert comp. I've watched a lot of Justin Herbert

6:26

just to bring myself up to date on what he looked

6:28

like coming out of Oregon. He's

6:31

a lot better, Herbert was, in terms

6:33

of arm strength, in terms of the way he

6:35

delivered the ball, in terms of velocity. So

6:40

is he Justin Herbert? Is he Mitch Trubisky?

6:42

Is he Kenny Pickett? Is he Mack Jones

6:44

with a better arm and less of a

6:46

QBIQ? To me,

6:48

at number three, there's questions. And if he

6:50

drops to them, they should think whether he's

6:52

the guy or just a

6:54

guy. And I'm not alone in that. Here's

6:57

Merrill Hodge and

6:59

Louis Riddick speaking on Get Up last

7:02

week about Drake May. I want you

7:05

guys to hear Merrill Hodge's evaluation of

7:07

Drake May. Let's play it. I

7:09

wouldn't touch May. I wouldn't grab May. I wouldn't

7:12

draft him in the first round. There's

7:14

a bunch of things that bother me. He's

7:16

extremely inconsistent as his

7:19

accuracy. He's processing inconsistent.

7:23

He's not extremely athletic. I think I find him

7:25

more stiff. He's got a longer throwing motion, which

7:27

allows more hits in our league than he gets

7:29

in college. So

7:32

that got a lot of attention. Louis

7:35

Riddick, what is your reaction? As

7:40

far as where he's going to get

7:42

ultimately drafted, I mean, that's not

7:44

going to happen. He's not going to

7:47

get out of the first round. And as Mel's alluding to, he's

7:49

probably not going to get out of the top ten, the top

7:51

five. Some of the things,

7:53

though, that Merrill Hodge sees, I see

7:56

some of the same things, quite honestly.

7:58

I see off-target. throws

8:00

that are not caused by pressure,

8:03

that are not caused by tight windows,

8:05

I just see misses. I

8:07

do see an elongated throwing motion. It

8:09

is not the same as Caleb. It

8:11

is not the same as Jayden. I

8:13

don't see the same kind of creativity.

8:15

I don't see the same kind of

8:17

outside the pocket explosiveness, outside of structure

8:19

that I see with those two. I

8:21

do see a gap between

8:24

Caleb, Jayden, and Drake May. I see

8:27

some of those same things. Now, ultimately

8:29

where he ends up being drafted is

8:32

going to be much different than what Merrill is saying, what

8:34

his career ends up being. I think

8:37

it's going to be very much so. I

8:39

think with him, he's one of those guys

8:42

who needs, when we're talking about quarterbacks, all

8:44

need to go to great situations and be

8:46

in great systems to be utilized, you know,

8:48

to their strengths and kind of have their

8:50

weaknesses hidden. I think without a doubt that

8:53

Drake's development is going to be front and

8:55

center as far as some of the things

8:57

that Merrill is talking about that he has

8:59

from a deficiency standpoint. Because he cannot create,

9:01

he cannot lift and create and do things

9:04

on his own the same way Jayden and

9:06

Caleb can. He just can't. I

9:08

don't care what it, you can just watch

9:10

the tape and see that. He's not the

9:12

same guy as those two and that's why

9:14

he is third behind those two. So Phil,

9:16

you are boots on the ground in Indianapolis.

9:18

Where do the Patriots stand on Drake May?

9:21

The Patriots like Drake May. I think if

9:23

you were to ask them, he would have the

9:25

third best tape in this year's class behind

9:28

Caleb Williams and Jayden Daniels and

9:31

they really liked his interview. I can tell you that. A

9:34

lot of energy, somebody who impacted

9:36

the room as soon as he walked in and

9:39

these are, it's important to point out

9:41

first impressions only. These are pretty brief

9:43

meetings. They end up being about 15

9:45

minutes all pulled most of

9:47

the time. However,

9:50

I would say that they also matter and

9:52

first impressions matter at that position and an

9:54

ability to hold a room matters at that

9:56

position to bring quote unquote juice to the

9:58

position matters. And

10:00

he seems like personality-wise the kind of player

10:02

who'll be able to do that. I think

10:04

his arm is better than what you give

10:06

him credit for. You know, there's some

10:09

clips where he's off his back foot, ball

10:11

travels about 50 yards in the air on

10:13

a dime for a touchdown. Like it's fair.

10:15

Just to interject, it's certainly an NFL arm

10:17

and it's half again better than Mack Jones's.

10:20

I'm not saying he can't throw. I'm just saying that it's

10:23

not Herbert when we hear that

10:25

comp. Yeah, and

10:27

that might be fair. It's

10:29

interesting that you went back and watched Herbert's college

10:31

tape because he was a guy

10:33

who got criticized a ton coming out of Oregon. And

10:37

now in retrospect, a lot of those people

10:40

that criticized him coming out are looking at

10:42

it and saying, well, what I missed was

10:44

the scheme he was in didn't allow him

10:46

to show off the skill set that we

10:49

now know he clearly has. And

10:51

I think there's some of that with Drake Me Too. I'll

10:53

just tell you, my understanding from talking to league people who

10:56

have studied him will tell you

10:58

that there was a game because there was a

11:00

coaching change at UNC which brought along, I

11:02

would say, an alteration to the

11:05

scheme that

11:08

evaluators would tell you, did Drake

11:10

Me no favors? And that the 2022

11:12

tape from North Carolina is a little

11:15

bit better, an indicator as to what he might be

11:17

at the next level. And what he might be, it's

11:19

– I

11:21

think – listen, it's not rocket science.

11:24

He's 6'4". He has a

11:26

pretty strong arm. He's a pretty good athlete.

11:28

The guys that have come into the league

11:30

lately that have that kind of profile and

11:33

have the flashes that he has had

11:35

at North Carolina on their

11:38

resume, a lot of

11:40

them have worked out, especially in New

11:42

England where you're going to be playing in the conditions. And

11:45

we talked about this during Super Bowl week. Eric Eager, I thought,

11:47

was really good talking about this. He's 21 years

11:49

old. He's bigger. He has the bigger arm. Which

11:51

guy is going to succeed better in New England?

11:56

It might be Drake May versus Jaden Daniels.

11:58

So it's just – it's something to keep in mind. I

12:00

think the Patriots feel as though those guys are

12:02

pretty close. And the

12:04

durability matters too. Here's a couple

12:06

of things that argue in favor of Drake May. And

12:08

again, if they like him, they like

12:10

him. I'm not saying don't do it because I don't

12:12

know how they project him. I'm not an offensive coordinator.

12:14

Maybe Alex Van Pelt looks at him and says, there's

12:17

plenty I can do with this kid. I

12:19

like about him the fact that he's bigger. Six-five

12:22

matters as to where you get

12:24

hit. It's gonna be fewer headshots when

12:26

you're taller. It's just simple geometry. Something that Pete

12:28

Carroll pointed out with Drew Bledsoe way back in

12:30

about 1999. When we

12:33

were talking to him about why is Drew so durable, he said he

12:35

doesn't get hit in the head very often. He's

12:37

big, he's tall, he takes a hit. We

12:39

saw with Ben Roethlisberger too. I'm

12:43

not saying that obviously May

12:46

is not a 260-pound quarterback like

12:48

Roethlisberger was, but he's

12:51

gonna be out there all the time. He's

12:53

21 and he

12:57

might have the acuity to

13:00

learn the things that he doesn't know. I think if

13:02

you watch him too, Phil, you're gonna see a lot

13:04

of throws that have a little bit of

13:06

a hitch and his feet aren't going the right way.

13:08

I think the privilege of watching Tom Brady for as

13:10

long as we did, the privilege of watching Jimmy

13:14

Garoppolo even in his development, fundamentally

13:16

really a good quarterback when just

13:18

standing there throwing with no heat

13:20

on him. There were things

13:23

about Mack Jones' game that I don't see

13:25

in Drake Mays in terms of pre-snap getting to the

13:27

line. Now maybe it was the offense and it was

13:29

just kind of paint by numbers and you're not doing

13:31

a lot of protection calls and pointing people out. But

13:34

Mack Jones was very adept at that. And Mack

13:36

Jones won the, basically in

13:39

my mind, he won the job in 2021 about three

13:41

days into camp.

13:44

He had already shown more decisiveness and

13:47

accuracy than Cam Newton.

13:49

And all that mattered then was decisively beating Cam

13:51

out, which he did. I

13:54

don't know if Drake Mays is gonna come in

13:56

with those things, that ability with the accuracy, the

13:58

fundamentals, and the... mental acuity or at

14:00

least knowledge to do it. But

14:03

at 21 is there more to build on with him? And

14:05

do you think Alex van Pelt or the Patriot staff will

14:07

look at him and go, we can

14:09

mold the hell out of this guy. We're fine. I

14:12

think that's where your confidence as a coaching staff comes in.

14:15

You look at things like footwork, you look at things

14:17

like the ability to understand

14:19

protections and you say to yourself, don't

14:22

worry about that. That's on us. We

14:25

figure that stuff out. This

14:27

guy has a lot that we can work with. And when

14:29

we get that stuff figured out, he's going to be a

14:31

special player. That I think is,

14:34

is part of the evaluation there. And

14:37

I think that, listen, I don't think it should be underrated.

14:42

The personality aspect of it, especially

14:44

given the situation that whoever's

14:47

quarterbacking this team next is about to walk into,

14:50

you want someone with a little energy who's

14:52

going to try to keep the room as positive

14:56

as possible in difficult circumstances. And

14:59

we're not saying Jay Daniels can't do that. He

15:02

has certainly faced difficult circumstances in

15:05

his own right in a variety of different ways and

15:07

he is tough. And he brings juice to the position,

15:10

not through his personality, because he's a little bit more

15:12

reserved, but through just sheer playmaking ability at 90 plays

15:14

at 20 plus yards last year in the SEC. The

15:17

guy is special. He is a special, special

15:19

talent. But when it

15:21

comes to May,

15:23

I think something that sort of tickles

15:25

the Patriots that they would like is

15:28

that he has shown

15:30

toughness as a runner, number one in college, and

15:32

he's maybe a little too aggressive as far as

15:34

that goes. They

15:37

also like his background coming from an

15:39

athletic family. His brother is a really

15:42

good player at North Carolina, six

15:45

foot eight, power forward, you know,

15:47

sort of dwarfs Herbert. And

15:50

one person at the cop by told me, this

15:52

guy's, you know, Drake May

15:54

is like the runt of that family, believe it or

15:56

not. And he's been beaten up,

15:58

you know, it's little brother syndrome. A lot of people

16:00

out there know what I'm saying when I say that. And

16:03

so there's a toughness associated with that, that

16:06

he's had to sort of scratch and claw for

16:08

what he's gotten growing up athletically that they like

16:10

and that shines through when you get a chance

16:13

to meet him and watch him play. And

16:15

so he has a lot going for him and

16:17

because of the age difference, I think there's more

16:20

projection involved that makes him a more difficult

16:22

evaluation in my opinion. But

16:25

it also allows you to let your imagination run wild

16:27

as to where this guy might end up in a

16:30

couple years. Say he was 23 years old, Tom, and

16:32

throwing to two first round picks the way Jayden Daniels

16:34

was at LSU, what would he look like then?

16:38

I think it's a fair question. That's the situation

16:40

that Jayden Daniels is leaving at LSU. And

16:43

we had that cool conversation recently, in the

16:45

last couple months, about quarterback age when

16:48

I was arguing how I'd rather see

16:50

an older quarterback. And I think you mentioned it

16:52

to me and then I went and found the

16:54

story that indicated that if

16:56

you have your breakout season at

16:58

24, I'm

17:00

oversimplifying, but a lot

17:02

of that has to do with you are

17:05

playing against 20-year-olds and you

17:07

are physically more mature and mentally more mature. If

17:10

you're having very good seasons at 20

17:12

and 21, that's indicative of

17:14

unique talent. Caleb Williams

17:17

is unique. Jayden Daniels is unique. They're going

17:19

in the first three picks. I'm

17:21

more focusing on Drake May if he ends up

17:23

at three, projecting what

17:26

his ceiling will be. I

17:29

think there are question marks for him as

17:32

being the guy as opposed to a guy, and

17:34

I've given the examples of why not. I've got

17:36

to ask you this. Do you think the Patriots

17:38

are selling themselves on

17:40

the position because

17:43

they need it so badly and

17:45

is the pressure outside too

17:47

high for them to say,

17:49

nah, we're not doing this at number three?

17:52

I mean the pressure of a new coaching staff, a

17:56

new offensive coordinator, a team

17:58

without a quarterback. understanding

18:01

where they are in the draft, it's going to take

18:04

balls for them to say, no,

18:06

we're going to trade out, we're going to give it to

18:08

the Vikings, and the Vikings are going to give us all

18:10

these picks, or Atlanta, or whoever wants to do

18:12

that. Do

18:14

you think they're selling themselves as much as

18:16

the player is selling himself? So

18:20

I think the second thing you mentioned there

18:22

might be true, that the pressure is getting

18:26

to be so great that it might make it

18:28

hard for them to pass on

18:30

a quarterback at number three overall. But

18:33

I think part of the reason there will be pressure

18:35

there is because these quarterbacks that are going to be

18:37

available, or the quarterback that's going to be

18:39

available to the Patriots at number three, whoever falls to them,

18:42

is so widely regarded to be worthy of that

18:45

pick. This is

18:47

not a situation where, you know,

18:49

go back to the 2017 draft, the Patrick

18:51

Holmes draft. Mitch Trubisky that year

18:54

was by most mocks,

18:56

I would say nationally renowned people who

18:58

cover the draft and mock the draft

19:02

right before draft day, had him as a middle of

19:04

the first round pick. Not

19:08

a terrible player by

19:10

any stretch, but also not a top two guy

19:14

for a guy who ended up going at number two. That's

19:17

a team in the Chicago Bears that talked themselves

19:19

into Mitch Trubisky and said, well, we are here,

19:21

we think he's a first rounder, why don't we

19:23

just make this move here now? That's

19:26

not what's happening with the Patriots. These

19:28

guys are very widely respected by leading

19:30

people. And everyone

19:32

that I've spoken to over the last month

19:34

or so will

19:37

tell me that quarterbacks are going with the top three picks. And

19:39

I even had a few executives tell me in Indy that it

19:41

could be the top four picks, Tom. You

19:44

could see JJ McCarthy go at number four overall, but the

19:47

top three guys have been there for long enough now,

19:50

really since the end of the season, which it took people

19:52

a while for some reason, you know, the rest of the

19:54

world, I think the outside world, the media world, I think

19:56

it took them a while to wrap their arms around Jane

19:59

Daniels and the idea. Danvers because he saw him

20:01

mark in the second round as late as freaking

20:03

December, which made no sense. He was lighting the

20:05

SEC on fire. He's having a historic season. And

20:08

oh, yeah, no second round pick. Are you kidding

20:10

me? The guy runs maybe a four four and

20:12

is pairing up the best conference in the country.

20:14

But that's where the group think I think invades.

20:16

Well, nobody else has him up in the first round. So why would I

20:18

put him in the first round? I'll put him as a second round. Well,

20:21

who's gonna be the first guy to put him up there? Somebody

20:24

puts him up there. He's number three. Next thing you know, he's

20:26

up to number two. And there's some people who think he

20:28

should be the number one pick now to an

20:30

extent. And

20:32

I think once one person steps

20:35

over the line, everybody else follows. And

20:38

the group think can also work in the

20:40

other direction where nobody knew who these guys were except

20:42

for scouts who had been scouting them. Head

20:44

coaches didn't know who Drake May was. They don't spend

20:47

their time on college players a year in advance. So

20:49

the group think had Drake May as number two prospect

20:51

entering the year. And he did not

20:54

enough to rebut that. I'm

20:59

wary of the group think, but the

21:02

group think also wants to be correct

21:04

in the projection. Like Zach Wilson was

21:06

the unquestioned number two pick going

21:09

into the off season. He stayed

21:11

that way. He was the number two overall pick

21:13

and he just plain wasn't ready. Bad situation or

21:15

no, he just plain has not been

21:17

ready. And he had a better arm and has a better

21:19

arm than Drake May. So

21:23

I'm wary of the

21:25

group think, but I also hope

21:28

this new staff is confident enough to

21:30

say to itself, if as a

21:32

group guys were working together for the

21:34

first time, is there anybody in that room who

21:36

does have the balls to say, Elliot,

21:41

what can I just like fill 10 receivers

21:44

who have first or second round grades

21:46

and five or first rounders? And

21:48

there's like six tackles.

21:51

I mean, there's a lot you can clean up at

21:53

some positions that the Patriots need. Oh,

21:55

you might see nine tackles taken in the first round.

21:58

I think it could be a record. record setting year at

22:01

that position. Some

22:03

of those guys might end up being guards, whatever,

22:05

but it's going to be a borderline record setting

22:07

year at tackle. And I think you're going to

22:09

see double digits, easy receivers taken in the first

22:12

two rounds. And there's

22:14

a, there's a big old

22:16

hunk of receivers that appear to

22:18

be end of the first top of the

22:20

second types, right where the Patriots will be

22:22

picking at number 34 overall with their second

22:24

pick. So I'm

22:27

with you. If there are people in

22:29

there who feel strongly about these quarterbacks in a

22:31

negative fashion, you've got to

22:33

say, you've got to speak up. And that's, listen,

22:36

that's what Robert Kraft is looking

22:38

for, right? That's the advantage to the post

22:40

belt, Bill Belichick world is that

22:43

Gerod Mayo should have a say. Ellie Wolf

22:45

should have a say. Matt Groh

22:47

should have a say. Pat Stewart should have a say.

22:49

Alonzo Highsmith should have a say. That's five really highly

22:51

qualified guys. And we even get to Cam

22:54

Williams, the director of college

22:56

scouting or Steve Cargile, the director of pro scouting,

22:58

who's, you know, that, that department's now getting into

23:01

these guys as well. So there

23:04

are a number of people that are really well

23:07

respected, well liked in that building right

23:09

now, and they should feel

23:12

as though they have the leeway

23:15

to speak up and use their voice. I

23:18

just, I'm not sure how much dissension you're

23:20

going to get when it, when it is

23:22

so universally held that there are three good

23:24

quarterbacks in this class. Again,

23:28

May is probably the odds on favor to go to the

23:30

Patriots at three, because I think Daniels will go two to

23:33

Washington. But

23:36

that brings up another dynamic that exists for

23:38

the Patriots and their personnel staff right now.

23:41

And that is, as we reported coming out

23:43

of the Super Bowl and as Andrew Callahan

23:45

from the Herald reiterated last week, Elliott

23:48

Wolf is not officially the GM, nor

23:50

is Matt Groh the GM. The personnel

23:53

department is not intact right now. Our

23:56

understanding is the Patriots will after the

23:58

draft go through. a GM

24:01

search or a personnel man search, whatever they're

24:03

going to ultimately call the person. And

24:07

I expressed to people I spoke to

24:11

my doubt that that was the right way to go about

24:13

it. I mean, why are you going to have Elliott Wolfe,

24:16

for example, run the draft, pick third

24:18

overall, spend $100 million in

24:20

cap space, and then May, June,

24:22

or July, you decide, we found somebody

24:24

else we really like. Come

24:28

to realize that they're not going to

24:30

move on. It's more of a

24:32

dog and pony show, I think, to have a search

24:35

afterwards. Again,

24:37

the logic of that, to me, seems

24:39

a little dubious. Why not at least

24:41

have the search prior and then arrive at Elliott Wolfe? I

24:44

don't get the logic behind it. But

24:46

the Patriots are so familiar with their staff

24:49

and feel that they've been so muzzled through

24:51

the years, the personnel staff, that

24:53

they want to give them a chance to

24:56

show what they can do. And

24:59

it would be real bold to show what

25:01

you can do by saying, hey, Robert,

25:03

watch this. We're trading down.

25:07

That would be bold. So I think

25:09

that dynamic injects itself as well.

25:12

It almost traps them into do

25:14

the safest thing that everybody else thinks is the

25:16

smartest thing, which is just take the quarterback. And

25:22

Tom, just to be fair and to try

25:24

to be consistent, how many times over the

25:26

years have we

25:29

watched Patriots drafts run by Bill Belichick

25:31

and said to ourselves or

25:33

on podcasts or on TV, can't

25:36

they just one time do what everybody else thinks that

25:38

they should do? Just

25:40

one time for me. In the

25:42

first round, in the second, whatever it is, just go off.

25:44

If somebody else is bored one time, and

25:48

so now they might do that, and I would

25:51

still say they should be criticized for that if that's

25:53

what ends up happening. If that's what

25:55

it is, well, hey, Robert, the

25:57

wisdom of the masses, and look at all of that. these

26:00

mocks that say that you know quarterbacks should go three so

26:02

we're just gonna go that route and hope it works out.

26:04

That shouldn't be what it is either. But

26:06

if among the seven people that I just mentioned that

26:09

are pretty important in the Patriots front office, three

26:12

or four of them say I've got a

26:14

lot of reservations about Drake May or I

26:16

have no faith that Jayden Daniels will be

26:18

able to stay healthy as an NFL player

26:21

period and there's nothing you

26:23

can say Elliott that'll convince me otherwise.

26:25

If those are the conversations that are being had

26:28

then I think you could present it to Robert Kraft even

26:31

though he's in his 80s he's made it very clear during

26:33

the end of Bill Belichick's tenure how quickly

26:35

he wants to get back to contention. If

26:40

you hear that if you're Robert Kraft

26:42

and say hey there's real disagreement

26:44

within the room here and

26:47

Elliott Wolf has final say we know

26:49

that in an instance like

26:51

this where there is disagreement but

26:54

maybe even Elliott says listen I trust these guys and if they're

26:56

not all in then I don't think we as

26:58

an organization organization should be all in. It might

27:01

be best for us to trade back get

27:04

a great offensive lineman add draft capital,

27:06

bide our time, hold our water and

27:09

maybe next year's the year we go all in on a quarterback or

27:11

maybe it's even the year after that. We've

27:14

got this plan with a veteran he's

27:16

gonna buoy us for two or three years and

27:19

then when the time is right the time will be right

27:22

and that's what we've decided. I think if you're Robert Kraft

27:24

you got to be okay with that. If

27:26

it's Drake May he has to

27:28

sit. I

27:31

would feel as if every

27:34

single quarterback virtually

27:36

every quarterback who washes out who's

27:39

been taken in the top ten has

27:42

gone to a bad situation and

27:44

as a result has been strapped to the fortunes

27:47

of that team which didn't have enough around him

27:50

whether it's locally where the coaching

27:52

wasn't where needed to be nor the strength

27:54

of the roster whether

27:57

it's Sam Donald or Zach Wilson

28:00

or Baker Mayfield and Cleveland,

28:03

you name it, we can go through a bunch of them. But

28:07

I look at Drake May at three going to

28:09

the team with the worst offense in the NFL

28:13

and perhaps the worst offensive roster in the NFL, which

28:15

it shouldn't be by the end of next

28:17

week. By the end of next week, it's toward the

28:20

first wave of free agency being over. Hopefully the Patriots

28:22

have made moves to improve their offense, specifically

28:24

the offensive line. Even though

28:26

there's not a lot of free agency, we'll get to that later. But

28:31

he has to sit if that's what he

28:33

is tied to. I think it's a fair

28:35

point. I disagree

28:38

in that, to

28:41

me, if you feel like the

28:43

guy is the guy and he's wired correctly

28:45

for it, and you're supporting

28:47

him, however you can,

28:49

even if he's getting beat up on the field, with

28:52

good coaches and

28:55

good people around him, and he's

28:57

not being beaten down behind

29:00

the scenes, Joe

29:02

Barro, it looked horrible for Joe Barro, year one. That was

29:04

a bad team. He's a great example. And he got

29:06

hurt. It was so bad he got hurt. And

29:09

it's part of the reason they ended up at the top of the draft

29:11

the very next year and able to draft Jamar Chase. Peyton

29:14

Manning is a long time ago now,

29:17

horrible year one. I think he set a

29:19

record for picks maybe, year one as a rookie. Horrible

29:21

team, horrible results. He

29:24

didn't break. There was

29:26

something about the mental makeup that those guys possessed,

29:28

that they were able to come out the other

29:30

side and be great players.

29:34

Is it possible to even foresee that coming

29:36

with a guy coming out of college right

29:38

now? Is it possible to foresee that coming

29:41

with Drake May, especially? I don't

29:43

know how you could. What? I

29:46

think the experience that you could gain by

29:48

being out there and on the field with

29:51

the entire region's hopes and dreams

29:53

on your shoulders, I think that can be a good

29:55

thing if he's wired the

29:57

right way. And again, if you're supporting

29:59

him behind the field, the scenes, if you're helping him through

30:01

all his struggles, all of his failures, if it's that

30:03

kind of environment that you've created, I think

30:06

that that experience can be beneficial, maybe

30:08

could even allow him to hit the ground

30:11

running in a more timely fashion in year

30:13

two. But it comes down

30:15

to something that I, as

30:17

a layman to him, don't have a firm grasp on

30:19

which is how quickly can you fix footwork? How

30:23

quickly can you teach a guy how to

30:25

run an NFL protection scheme? Even

30:28

if he's not the one making the calls, it could be David

30:30

Andrews who's handling all that stuff, he has to understand where the

30:32

line is going to shift, how it's going to slide, where the

30:35

blisters are going to be picked up. How

30:37

quickly can that happen? They think he's

30:39

a smart guy, the Patriots do, I know that. But

30:41

is he smart enough to be able to pick it up in one-off

30:43

season? Again, Justin Herbert's a

30:45

good example. He's entering a, he

30:47

entered a better situation, I think, Tom, in 2020 with

30:50

the Chargers because he had seen an Allen there. But

30:53

his offensive line was some joke. They've been trying

30:55

to fix that thing ever since he entered the league. It was horrible. It

30:57

was probably, the Patriots

30:59

is bad too. I don't know if there were any situations

31:02

that are worse than the Patriots, but it was probably of

31:04

that ilk. And

31:06

he seemed to figure it

31:08

out okay. So I would play him and

31:11

play him early because if

31:13

you think he's not able to withstand that fire, you probably

31:15

shouldn't draft him at three in the first place. Mm-hmm.

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Well, he's going to need a caddy and

32:33

actually he'll be the caddy for whoever comes

32:35

in. Free agency begins next week. There's a

32:37

variety of names out there. Let's

32:39

roll through a few of them and the reasons that

32:42

we think that they could be candidates and might not

32:44

be candidates. Start with the biggest ticket

32:46

item or at least the most well-known

32:48

and that's Russell Wilson. The

32:51

Broncos are moving on from him. He's going to make $39 million

32:53

from the Broncos. He could be had

32:55

for probably a very, very minor base

32:59

salary in 2024. Is

33:02

he the right guy that you would bring into

33:04

an organization to be not

33:08

the apprentice but to have an apprentice next

33:10

to him and would this be the right situation

33:12

for Russell Wilson? I vote nay. I

33:16

couldn't vote nay any harder.

33:18

I think he is the exact wrong guy to bring in

33:21

given everything we know. I don't know the

33:23

man. I've never met him. But

33:26

everything you hear about Russell Wilson is that

33:28

the ego is significant. It

33:30

is real and it is spectacular.

33:33

If you're that kind of player who is now a wounded

33:36

animal in terms of his

33:38

NFL career and its outlook, that's

33:41

the last thing I want if I'm drafting a quarterback

33:43

at three. Maybe, I guess, if

33:46

you plan on passing on the position entirely

33:48

and you're not bringing in a rookie, he's

33:50

going to be so cheap. Maybe sell some

33:52

tickets. Maybe you're just punting

33:54

on the season anyway just to build the

33:57

roster. If you feel that way, then...

34:00

whatever, that I'll shrug my shoulders. But

34:03

if there's a rookie here at three overall and you

34:05

bring in Russell Wilson, I

34:09

don't know outside

34:11

of outside of the most

34:13

fanatical fantasy football player Tom, I don't know who

34:15

would support that move because you have to be

34:17

so out of tune with the human element of

34:19

the game to think that that would

34:21

work that that's all you must do

34:23

is you're on espn.com, you're on

34:26

yahoo.com, you're on wherever you are,

34:28

DraftKings, Fanatics. And

34:30

that's how you understand the game. These are numbers,

34:32

these are names on a

34:34

screen somewhere, these are not human beings because

34:38

you don't understand that part of the game if you think it's a

34:40

good idea to bring in Russell Wilson with a rookie. Go

34:42

to another guy, big name for number one

34:45

pick, it's Baker Mayfield, he had a Renaissance

34:47

here with Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He

34:49

actually did his audition with the Rams

34:51

in 2022, performed well

34:53

with barely a week of preparation

34:55

in a game, prime time

34:58

game for the Rams that helped

35:00

to earn him the opportunity to go to

35:02

Tampa Bay. He had a good season in

35:04

Tampa Bay, really showed that

35:06

he does have excellent throwing

35:08

talent and the leadership that

35:10

he wasn't able to exhibit in Cleveland because

35:13

the team sucked around him and

35:15

that's what happens when you're a tough overall

35:18

pick. You better be a savior,

35:20

if you're not a savior, guys are gonna look

35:22

at you and go, I thought you were

35:24

supposed to be that good, you're really not that

35:26

good and that's what I think is

35:28

dangerous sometimes about picking guys that high in the draft if

35:30

they don't come through. Other guys

35:32

start to look at you as scants but

35:35

he has a joint a Renaissance, he

35:37

is getting on in years to a

35:39

degree. Would he want

35:41

to come to New England and would the Patriots

35:43

want to be in line for a 30 or

35:45

35 million dollar contract which is the going rate

35:47

for a pedestrian quarterback right now? I

35:50

doubt it and I I just don't

35:52

think this is realistic. I sort of actually

35:54

like the idea of it, Tom, because

35:56

I Think he fits with the offense that

35:59

you have, his familiarity with. Both Alex impelled

36:01

and Ben Mcadoo and L E Wolf

36:03

was the number two. In

36:05

Cleveland we was drafted one overall and he's got all

36:08

these. You know, these qualities that what I wrote drake

36:10

made terms of a boy. He impacts room as soon

36:12

as he walks in. That was sort of how he

36:14

was viewed when he was draft at. It's part of

36:16

reasoning with one. Overall added Josh Allen Way and a

36:18

Lamar Jackson. Guys like that was he was. He was

36:20

good on the board and. He. Made people feel

36:23

good about themselves and you could envision him being a

36:25

leader meant. But.

36:27

Obviously that wasn't enough to make him a great player because

36:29

it just has worked out to this point in his gray.

36:31

I will say the so I'd I don't hate him as.

36:35

This. Teams: Alex Smith. When.

36:38

The Chiefs were going into the twenty thirteen season they

36:40

acquired Alex Smith. They were coming off one of the

36:42

worst. Seasons been for bother one worst teams

36:44

in the league. They. Just hired Any

36:46

Read to be their new head coach. And.

36:49

They were starting fresh. And.

36:51

They probably knew he wasn't a when them a

36:53

Superbowl party the former number one overall pick. And.

36:56

They had an idea that in our offense in

36:58

our scheme. We could win some games with

37:00

this guy. they didn't. They want a Portuguese? But.

37:02

He wasn't the guy. Still, they they kept an eye

37:04

out for the guy. And. When the

37:06

opportunity presented itself, they jumped. And.

37:09

So. I wonder if they would see

37:11

value if they don't love. The

37:13

quarterback the could be available to them in three. Would.

37:16

You just look at Mayfield and say this, You know what

37:18

this are three year plan while we get the roster squared

37:20

away. And the entire time

37:23

he's with us. Will keep an eye for next guy

37:25

because we know he's not. He's not one of the

37:27

Superbowl. Probably anytime soon we're not ready to to supply.

37:29

so let's go get a franchise quarterback two or three

37:31

years from now. If we're going

37:33

to keep loading up on first round picks

37:35

the when that guy who is point seven

37:37

on seven somewhere. Or. Tree

37:39

in the transfer portal on his way someplace

37:41

else. Becomes. The Jaden

37:44

Daniels. We're ready to pounce because we have

37:46

this. Whole. Cache of picks. I'll.

37:50

Go with easy one for you Jacoby preset.

37:52

The merits of him. Feel. This

37:56

is the kind of person. that

38:00

you could welcome into your building who

38:02

has some experience, doesn't have

38:04

superstar experience or championship level experience like Russ

38:06

Wilson. But has enough

38:08

of the way of experience to be the caddy

38:10

that you're talking about. Help guide a young player

38:12

through a rookie season, through his first two seasons

38:14

of his career. He's familiar with the offense with

38:16

Alex Ampel. He's thought

38:18

to be a great locker room guy. I think they could use

38:20

as many of those as they could get right now. And

38:24

he's, you know, he probably get him for two

38:26

years and $16 million total and feel

38:29

good about your quarterback room the next few years

38:31

if you draft somebody at three or you're planning

38:33

on drafting somebody at three. This to me is,

38:36

A, the most realistic option of all the

38:38

names we'll talk about probably here. And

38:41

B, the soundest of the realistic

38:43

options because I actually think he's pretty good. When he

38:45

gets a chance to play, he's been pretty good. And

38:48

I think

38:50

he would fit better in the

38:52

room with a young quarterback. Remember,

38:55

he was a quarterback when Bailey Zappi and the

38:57

Patriots. Beat the Cleveland Browns

39:00

29 to nothing. He did it this

39:02

May. He did. Was it the first

39:04

pass of the game that game where he just chucked it,

39:06

chucked and ducked down the field, picked off? Yep. Yeah,

39:08

not his best moment. I'll give you another guy. And

39:12

that is Gardner Minshew. Now, if I'm the

39:14

Colts, I watched him be a

39:16

caddy for Anthony Richardson when Richardson got hurt as

39:18

a rookie this past year. Minshew

39:20

came in, played well enough to

39:22

give the Colts a chance in virtually every game. They

39:25

beat the Patriots, right? Because they

39:27

don't play the Patriots. Half

39:30

the league beats the Patriots. Gardner

39:32

Minshew beat the Patriots, yeah, 10 to 6 in Germany.

39:36

Oh my God. Trying

39:38

to block that game out of my mind. But

39:41

he ended up at Pro Bowl alternate, made his way down

39:43

to that skills and drills competition there at the end of

39:45

the year. So I like

39:49

the way Gardner Minshew plays. He's a

39:52

low budget Mayfield. What

39:54

about him? I

39:58

don't hate the idea. To me, he's in that. In Class

40:00

as as Jacoby Reset. And

40:02

in the reason, I would prefer Bricet

40:05

over you. Is

40:07

because of. What I've heard of Go

40:09

for set as a backup. And and how

40:11

he handles that role. In. His personality and

40:13

house coaches really loved him in Cleveland. Ah,

40:16

my guess is they felt the same way about him

40:18

in Washington. That's where he was this past year. And

40:21

they're in a relationship with. The.

40:23

Coordinator in the scheme that that we think is going to

40:25

be here in New England. I don't think Mids You has

40:28

all those things lined up in the same way, but to

40:30

me he's He's a similar class where he could probably get

40:32

you through a few games, but you you really don't want

40:34

to be even starting a full season. I.

40:37

From. That over the

40:39

next breathing on top I'm already funny. To

40:42

Niners quarterbacks Former Niners quarterbacks.

40:46

Seemed Arnold. And. Jimmy Go

40:48

Raw Pillow Donald is with the Niners right

40:51

now. Jimmy a course was there after he

40:53

left the Patriots. And.

40:55

Who's the other guy I wanted to throw him? It

40:58

wasn't anything on fields. you do any field

41:00

stock. just now now I'm all set. would

41:03

just feels weeks without enough my problem just

41:05

and fields as if he performs for you

41:07

know, pain. I'm thirty five or forty million

41:09

dollars a year and if the team sucks

41:12

this coming year. You're. In

41:14

a position where. You. Still don't

41:16

know whether the guy you spent a second or

41:18

third round pick on. Is good or

41:20

not? So. You might have to go back

41:22

another year with. So. If

41:26

he would preclude you from taking Drake, may.

41:30

Panel know would preclude you from

41:32

taking Gg Mccarthy you are michael

41:34

panics about next. Probably.

41:36

Not. But. I just I. I

41:38

just don't think Just and fields. Would.

41:40

Be the right guy the right time and his

41:42

contract to for the Patriots. Prior. To

41:44

Charge! Just finished. Ah, I.

41:47

Am Blaine Gabbert right hand held. Throw all them

41:49

on the table. Have the give me the. Blame.

41:53

Sam. And I.

41:56

Was. Yoga. Cleaning

41:59

up, You. Know ah no no

42:01

no I'm blain know once he the hill.

42:04

Or. I'm in no on Jimmy. I know you like

42:06

the idea of Jimmy. yeah I just a few want

42:08

somebody mended If he was suspended for the first two

42:10

games that entertain. Maybe. They bring him

42:12

in after a suspension. He says the

42:15

hurdles really hurt. All the.

42:17

Time. Is hurt all the time and and

42:19

to me especially at the backup spot. you

42:22

know your it's already number. If you've seen

42:24

time, that's an emergency situation. And.

42:26

Of that guy's gone now. What do you do?

42:29

You know, plane Nathan Rourke. I've

42:31

my guess they need to Brock, That's why I wanted

42:33

to even rock quick. Tell me who Nathan work is.

42:35

Everyone out there was think. That's

42:39

right, the pain. I use your item. At the

42:41

end of the year, he was the backup quarterback

42:44

week seventeen. Or Mack was over

42:46

there. Pick it is. but. Seen. I

42:48

heard it. We.

42:50

Get the smartest listeners Go! And I can't believe they

42:52

all had the correct answer like that! You're ready to

42:54

go new. It's I'm. I'm

42:57

going to bring back fields because I think he's the

42:59

outside of Baker Mayfield. was only going to cost you

43:01

money. If you don't

43:04

wanna quarterback in this year's class. I.

43:07

Don't mind spending the third round pick on just in fields

43:10

and just seeing if it worked him a full season. And

43:12

if he's great, that's a good problem. The have time you

43:14

talk about paint a guy thirty five million to these good

43:16

as a problem? That's that's not a problem to me, that's

43:18

a good thing. Sausages, Pick up

43:20

his fifth year option because of fifty or up

43:23

often as we picked up. Admit. Know

43:25

I would not. I would use this year I'd given

43:27

one year as a trial. And. I'm okay.

43:29

spend a third round pick on that. With. The

43:31

idea that it's it's that's not a problem. To me, that's a

43:33

good thing. Sausages, Pick up his

43:35

fifth Iraq because of fifty or up often as

43:38

we picked up. Admit. Know I would

43:40

not. I would use this year I give one year

43:42

as a trial. And. I'm okay. spend a

43:44

third round pick on that. With. The idea

43:46

that it's a it's an investment. On.

43:49

A guy who could. Work. Out

43:51

long term, I'm not. I don't care about spending

43:53

a third round pick. In that fashion, when you

43:55

spend third round picks on guys like it, chase

43:57

when a bitch, and second round picks and guys

43:59

like do Dawson. Like the one year at

44:01

with a quarterback got some real upside and real

44:03

talent. It if it doesn't work out, it doesn't

44:05

work out and out. It doesn't bother me either

44:07

way. If it's just that the rump, they should

44:09

be stockpiling picks, not spending them. Willy.

44:12

Nilly, they should be trying to figure out who the

44:14

quarterback in a future is no matter how you do

44:16

it. If it takes a third round pick in get

44:18

when you're out a guy, so be it. That's that's

44:21

a position you have put yourselves in. Your

44:23

exactly right. That means take your medicine, Don't

44:25

just sit there women pics of the position

44:27

because that's what bad teams do. Good teams

44:29

build the whole team around it. And then

44:31

they went. That guy. paratroopers, What?

44:35

Will accuse me of what? What? Did Hall

44:37

Of Fame. A. General

44:40

Manager Ron Wolf to.

44:42

At that was may arguably the most

44:44

impactful quarterback trade of all time. His

44:46

team was already good. They already had

44:49

a quarterback. Tom A housekeeper was a

44:51

good quarterback. In the National

44:53

Football Week zebra will pick around he

44:55

he threw a peck. At a guy

44:57

who was a complete disappointment. And. And a

44:59

turnaround. the. Fate. Of the team. Me:

45:02

And then he spent picks on quarterbacks almost

45:04

every year after that, You. Can never

45:06

get motivated. Far from thirty years ago. Ninety

45:08

Ninety Three, I'm just say and of the

45:11

Elliott what it is relevant. Ellie Wolf is

45:13

here Now that was his dad. And.

45:15

A packer way is to throw darts at the

45:17

quarterback position. However, it has to happen. Very.

45:22

Very. Thank. You. I

45:24

mean, I oh. I see the merit

45:26

of Justice Field. I think I'm more of

45:28

a a naysayer on everything these days. Nope.

45:31

Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope

45:34

Nope Nope Nope Nope. Tommy

45:36

Notes: Doctor. Know off.

45:39

Or so that wraps it up for the quarterback

45:42

position. On. We.

45:45

Are running backs, wide receivers, tight ends,

45:47

and Office of Wine. We could go

45:49

through the roster reset every single one

45:51

of them feel when I did the

45:53

roster reset the role at Nbc Sports

45:55

Boston's.com. I. Had a one to

45:57

five priority scale for each one. And

45:59

now. I wish that when I started doing

46:01

this a couple years ago, I made it a one

46:03

to ten, because every single one of these positions is

46:06

a five. They don't

46:08

have any tight ends on the roster. So

46:10

you have to go get Hunter Henry and re-sign him. But

46:13

he's hurt. Wide receivers,

46:16

you don't have any except for DiMario

46:18

Douglas, who actually quietly, with

46:22

limited time, had

46:25

definitely a starter-caliber season. 49

46:28

catches by the end of that year, led the

46:30

team. So he's a starter-caliber player

46:32

at that position, but nobody else is starting

46:34

caliber for anybody else in the league except

46:37

New England. So you have to address

46:39

that. Running backs, you have one starting-caliber player,

46:41

and you could also bring back Elliott Wolf. It

46:45

would be really a bear to tackle, I'm

46:47

sure. And if he doesn't work out, bring

46:50

back Ezekiel Elliott too. Ezekiel

46:52

Elliott, bring him back, that's a layup. You have him and

46:54

Stevenson, and then you can dip into the draft with some

46:57

good good promise there.

47:00

But all three of those positions, and then we

47:02

haven't even mentioned offensive line. If we were going

47:04

to dive into this and talk about what they

47:06

ought to do in free agency, we'd have much

47:08

longer a pod than we need, and

47:11

that you people need. Okay,

47:13

so we're going to keep this semi-bite sized. We're

47:16

probably at like 38 minutes. No,

47:18

no, no, no, we're at 32 minutes. John,

47:21

how are we? Here comes the skull

47:23

crusher to give us a time check. 45

47:25

minutes, way off. All

47:27

right, time to put a quirk in it.

47:29

We'll be back with you on Thursday to get into

47:32

more of this stuff on quarterbacks, obviously, but also do

47:34

a little bit of a free agent preview, because

47:36

that's what's coming up next, beginning next

47:38

Tuesday, free agency starts, and the Patriots

47:41

have got to eat, right,

47:43

Phil? Yum, yum,

47:45

yum, yum, yum, yum. Is that what you're saying? Yeah.

47:48

All right, everybody, enjoy the middle of your week.