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until we get the pads on. What were your early
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impressions of Drake? Early
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impressions of Drake? Look, I mean, he has a lot to work
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on. He has a lot to work on, but
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I have no doubt that he'll put the time
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in. So I know you guys saw
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him out. Well, you didn't see him out here yesterday, but
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he was here all night trying to get on
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the same page as everyone else. Hey, what's
1:16
up, friends? Welcome into Tom Curran's Patriots
1:18
Talk podcast. You heard
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Gerard Mayo right there at the top talking
1:23
about his charges at the rookie
1:25
minicamp. It was Friday and it
1:27
was again on Saturday. We had
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access on Saturday. And
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the most important thing people are going to be curious about is
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how did Drake May look? Well, in
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the first practice this century,
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not overseen by
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William Stephen Belichick, which is a little
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jarring when you think about it, certainly
1:46
the end of an era, and Drake
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May authoring and ushering in the new era.
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Really nothing remarkable. You
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know who stole the show? Joe
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Milton's arm stole the show. That
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thing is a friggin' bazooka. the
2:01
most memorable play of the day in a day
2:04
where the players were wearing shells, just
2:06
like shoulder pads, jerseys,
2:08
helmets, had no logos and shorts.
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The most impressive play of the day
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in a non-contact, non-competitive practice was Joe
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Milton rolling to his left,
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getting his feet set and
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throwing about a 40-yard start
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that never got over 15 yards
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in the air. It's just absolute
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missile. And
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as much as Drake May's arm might be
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better than Mack Jones, forget
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might be better, be better than Mack Jones, it's
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hard for it to show up with
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Joe Milton throwing at the same time, holy
2:46
God. And he was pretty accurate. How
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was May? Not
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as accurate. He's
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got plenty of arm, certainly. He
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did look, I think he looked a little robotic. Here's
3:02
what they did. The team split up initially
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after initial workouts, split up
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defense on one field, offense on the other. And
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in some of those drills, it was very clear
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that the Patriots were spending a lot of time
3:14
working on footwork, both with May and
3:17
Milton, which is to be expected. You want to lay
3:19
a foundation. It doesn't matter how experienced the
3:22
quarterback is, you want to
3:24
say, these are the things we expect with our organization. This
3:26
is the way we want it to look. We'll get to
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some sound from May on that later. We
3:31
spent a lot of time on that, but certainly I think,
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and May acknowledges this, there is a bit
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of a alteration
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to what he is generally used to in
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what he's doing with the Patriots. So
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when I say that, I think there were times he looked a
3:46
little robotic with his
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dropbacks and his throws. He wasn't
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really letting them rip. Fine. It's
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May. It's a driving range. You just got
3:54
a new lesson. You want to go
3:57
out there and try and execute it. He doesn't have to
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rip it. But I think the. processes underway to try
4:01
and get after fixing up his
4:03
footwork. How do they look in general? I
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mean, generally accurate. They're throwing against
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the air to uncovered receivers. There
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were a few that were behind. There
4:14
were a few that were too high. Contrasting
4:16
with watching Tom Brady for 20 years, Brady
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was always adamant about
4:22
trying to make sure, for instance, that his
4:24
bicep was next to his ear, and he
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had a full-on, over-the-top delivery at all times,
4:29
always throwing downhill, especially on the shorter
4:31
ones. May's slot
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is just a little lower. Doesn't
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mean you can't do it that way. Phillip Rivers was borderline
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Hall of Famer, throwing like a weirdo.
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May is not throwing that low, but there
4:45
were a... There's a difference there, and the
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accuracy is in there, and the footwork's not
4:49
there, which is as advertised.
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But he fills the suit perfectly. His
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off-field demeanor
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with the medium, with his teammates, was outstanding
5:02
as well. Let's roll
5:04
through some of that footwork conversation, though.
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This is a question from our buddy, Taylor Kyles,
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and then a follow from me on how
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hard it'll be to work on the footwork. You
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guys, I don't have any left foot up at the big
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part of the Nelsaw fans, but with the Pacific-South footwork, how
5:19
do you get from them so far, knowing it's up to
5:21
you? Yeah, that's a good question. Yes, that's very detailed. That's
5:24
been good. I think kind of the first day, just feeling it
5:26
out, and it's getting more and more reps. You know, I saw
5:28
something new take, just getting more reps at it. I
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think it's a perch to it. Quick game's a
5:33
lot quicker, and trying to get that.
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And I think under center stance, I'm
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trying out two new stances that I'm getting used to. So
5:40
just working on it, repping it, and I
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felt pretty good out there today, so just gotta keep working. See
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You. See You on Thursday. Our
6:03
present your foot pursuit Sharm the I think
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now about zero get a long time for
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regular fell so on. yeah things yourself some
6:09
not easy but it's I said. once you
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can I get it. messes up with the
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routes and ski coast to coast Ortiz progress
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up for some harden. I want to be
6:17
coached hard and it was because how much
6:19
opium like that comes easy no time comes
6:21
with rhythm and to match up concepts of
6:23
at work. So as. Far
6:29
as see what people were saying is. Now
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I'm the and I've done never knows. Go
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on, just distract, you'll fly ball and anti
6:39
when games. And my my second. One thing
6:41
that we wanted to look as. Closely.
6:44
Was who was working with Drake
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May primarily. And. I
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think as we watched it. He was.
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He. Took a village, He.
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Was Alex the impel. He was
6:56
to see Mccartney. It. Was Ben
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Mcadoo. All free individuals were working
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closely with. Obviously. Since
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are offensive coaches be offered to draw a male
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acknowledge that he has been spending and did spend
7:07
on Saturday a lot of time with the office
7:09
because that's an area that he needs to build.
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Ackerman. Hasn't done
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it as much so he's paying
7:16
attention and closer closer deadspin oversight
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to not just the quarterbacks, but
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he was watching a receiver drip
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drills is well with assistance tower
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Hughes and offering type one Underwood
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running those drills with back to.
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The. Responsibility for drake man who had
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falls to. Here's. Mayo
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addressing who's in charge of
7:36
that Primary systems will be
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like drake. Death
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Star a great question I would say a
7:45
your cross a week Most officer coordinators they
7:47
they interact with the quarterback the starting quarterback
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for the most part the are we do
7:51
have a group or coaches the have for
7:54
by backgrounds browse say overall be a vp
7:56
as far as that that liza. Work
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with all that would would drag with
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Jacoby and. That's right
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we don't know the Cyrus so a
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video games all those guys medical and
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follow I. Did
8:17
not agree question know the has to
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be balance there. You don't want Drake
8:22
here. too many voices and once again
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that's why I'm saying no a Vp
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will be the lead guy. As far
8:29
as that communication which are similarly. I.
8:31
Had wondered if Ben Mcadoo would be the
8:33
primary voice in the year. Of
8:35
Drake may. Mcadoo.
8:37
Actually has a little bit different
8:39
role according to mail. Step.
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It up then as a I have tremendous
8:47
experience he's cause every position on the often
8:49
saw the boss he was one of those
8:51
cats are players just in case has resorted
8:54
to build out the coaching staffs. ah he
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has a has a great history great background.
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He also helps me with some of the
9:00
scheduling starve almost like an assist ahead cause
9:02
type of role there but I do have
9:04
a small circle of the volume on as
9:07
far as asked. So what's interesting here is
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if you heard at night. Circle.
9:11
Back with mayo after you have the
9:14
answer. Who. Is the primary person in
9:16
the year and he said a crosley most often sick
9:18
when he to interact with the starting quarterback for the
9:20
most part. So.
9:23
He said that that's. Going. To
9:25
be Van Pelt my said. So. Does that
9:27
mean that piece to starting quarterback? Is
9:30
you have a name to start? A yeah. And.
9:35
He. Just alluded to the fact that. You'll
9:38
be working with everyone so. I
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think in lieu of. Jacoby.
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Bricet being year on Saturday.
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May. Would be the presumed started his of the
9:48
top of the depth chart between he and your milton
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so he was spending time. With.
9:52
allosphere suicide rate may we'll see
9:54
where alex van pelt time gifts
9:57
delegated com mini camp which will
9:59
be in early June. We'll keep an
10:01
eye on that too. And also, McAdoo and
10:03
T.C. McCartney and see who's working with whom
10:06
and how things look. It'll be interesting to me too to
10:09
watch how much more accurate Jacoby
10:12
Brissett is than
10:14
May because that's a
10:17
differentiator. And
10:19
again, we talked a lot in the
10:21
pre-draft. I think May's arm is fine. I don't
10:23
think it's phenomenal. I
10:25
think it's above average. It's
10:28
not Matt Stafford's. It's not
10:30
certainly not Joe Milton's. It's Miles better than
10:33
Mack Jones's. But
10:36
if he's not more accurate than Jacoby Brissett and he
10:38
doesn't throw it a hell of a lot harder and
10:42
he's not locked in with his
10:44
footwork to the point where he can do it by second nature
10:46
and just rip the ball, you're probably
10:48
going to see Jacoby Brissett until
10:51
all those boxes are checked. That's
10:54
on the side. We'll circle back on
10:56
that when we're back next month for
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minicamp. Meanwhile, what about the
11:01
other guys Tom? Was it just
11:03
Drake May on the field and Joe Milton? No,
11:05
you're right. We have receivers to watch and
11:07
that means Javon Baker, the fourth-round
11:10
pick and the second-round pick, Jalen Polk. Polk
11:13
looks just in command. Again,
11:15
nothing breathtaking from this group. I remember the first
11:17
time I watched Bethel Johnson run in 2003, I
11:19
said, oh my God, he looks
11:22
like a machine. He looks like Secretariat. Tremendous
11:26
machine. But with
11:28
Polk and Baker both, you know, pretty work.
11:31
But again, they weren't asked to do a lot. Baker
11:33
had a couple of drops against
11:36
the air, which you're not
11:38
looking for. But again,
11:40
it's a pretty minicamp. We'll keep saying
11:43
that until the regular training camp. You're going to
11:45
hear that from me until they start competitive drills.
11:48
But we have to talk about what we have
11:50
to go on, which is a couple drops
11:52
against here. Meanwhile, I asked you, Rob Mayo,
11:54
about the high level of confidence expressed in
11:56
himself by Javon Baker. John, include question and
11:58
answer if you could. So everyone has a good
12:01
frame of reference on what the guy had presented
12:03
to him You
12:13
know, honestly like for me I want these guys
12:15
to have a personality I want them to feel
12:17
free to talk about certain things Look, we'll have
12:19
rules of what to talk about but
12:21
now once he puts it out there He has to show it every
12:23
day out here on the football field If not,
12:25
he's just a talker and then you start to lose the respect
12:27
of the locker room and and things like that So well, he
12:29
said he put it out there and now you got to show
12:32
us Lose respect of the
12:34
locker room. You're right. You've had that escalated quickly.
12:36
Holy crap. Then you're out of the league Working
12:39
as a bouncer All right Anyway,
12:42
we'll keep an eye on Javon Baker's performance
12:46
relative to his self
12:49
proclaimed level of play Again
12:54
they were going against there there was seven on
12:56
seven Just token defensive
12:58
presence on the field Hard
13:01
to find anything different or breathtaking. I will say
13:04
this about the line. Oh, Kaden
13:06
Wallace was your first guy out there left tackle
13:09
Okay, the third round pick was out there left tackle
13:17
For what it's worth he had made in
13:19
Robinson very likable
13:21
individuals Great
13:24
presence great command fun
13:27
to talk to Great perspective.
13:30
So hopefully the guy can play but
13:33
first impressions of at the mic Sort
13:37
of like Kaden Wallace and uh, one of the best
13:39
catches of the day though was by seventh round pick
13:41
Jehime Bell and over the shoulder
13:45
Willie Mays looking catch Looking
13:48
back drop right in over
13:50
his shoulder. I believe that was a Drake Mather. Oh
13:53
believe it was a Drake Mather. Oh, but
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Yeah, we're gonna put a fork in it It
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was about an hour we were out there, 45 minutes. Noontime,
14:05
they hit the hill. They hit the hill at the end.
14:11
We talked to Hulk,
14:15
Mae, Wallace, Robinson,
14:18
Marcellus Dial, the rookie corner, and
14:21
Jaheem Bell. I might be missing someone. I
14:23
doubt it. But
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that's the group. We didn't get any J. Von Baker or Jevon.
14:29
We're J. Bakes. None of him. But
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that's that we're going to put a fork in it now. Saturday,
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I have to do a writing now. So we're going to get
14:36
after the writing. It's Mother's Day weekend.
14:38
I want to pick up some flowers and a
14:40
cupcake to put a candle in it for the
14:42
wife. And we go in
14:44
to visit Jane too. My Ma. But
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I hope you guys have a nice restful Mother's
14:50
Day weekend and and
14:53
take care of yourself. All right. Probably
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going to go to the golf course too. Really
14:58
working on dropping my hands. Drop them.
15:00
It's almost like a karate chop from the top
15:02
of the swing. Drop them. Bye.
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