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is a Headgun Podcast. This

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is Emily, Henley, and Sami.

0:41

And you're listening to Too Scary

0:44

Didn't Watch. Hi

0:52

everyone. Welcome to Too Scary Didn't Watch, the

0:54

horror movie recap podcast for those too scared

0:56

to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I

0:58

am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm

1:01

Henley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm

1:04

Sami and I love watching scary movies, and

1:06

so I watch them so that you don't

1:08

have to. And I felt

1:11

like we've been having a little too much fun

1:13

lately. No! Sami! That

1:16

is not okay. Sami! So we

1:18

got a not fun one today.

1:20

Oh man! Darn!

1:23

And yet I'm excited about it. She

1:25

has a huge goddamn grin on her

1:28

face. This

1:30

girl is elated. Oh, I

1:32

really am. But if

1:35

you want to get straight to the recap of this

1:37

week's movie, you can navigate using

1:39

the time stamps in the show notes.

1:42

Because before we get into it, I want to know,

1:45

did anything scary happen to you guys this week?

1:48

Henley, you've got a little grin on your face. Did something

1:50

scary happen to you this week? Okay,

1:54

I watched the show. I didn't finish it.

1:56

I actually couldn't finish it. I watched spoilers.

1:58

Or I read spoilers instead. I

2:00

watched one day on Netflix. Have

2:03

you guys seen this? Oh, it

2:05

is definitely being heavily promoted It

2:13

okay, so it's based off of a book

2:15

written by David Nichols and then we

2:17

made a movie about it That was

2:19

apparently very bad. Is it is it

2:21

the guy from my lotus? Yes Little

2:24

okay, well, yeah. Yeah. Yes.

2:26

Okay New actress

2:29

I've never seen her in anything and Bika I

2:32

don't know how pronounced name mod is the premise that

2:34

it takes place over like 20 years and

2:36

it's just those same two actors Yes, God,

2:38

it's funny when they do that. I

2:41

really think it's funny. Oh Man,

2:43

okay. So do you guys know anything about it?

2:45

No It

2:50

is so upsetting oh

2:53

no Oh It's

2:56

so sad what Oh That

2:59

is not the vibe I was getting from

3:01

the trailer. I say looks like a rom-com

3:04

It is it's kind of a rock. Well,

3:06

that's that's the reason why that's it's a

3:08

wrong. No calm wrong

3:11

no calm That's

3:13

part of what makes it so sad is that

3:15

they lull you into feeling like you're saying. Oh,

3:17

no, but you are not and Essentially

3:20

they can see it is that yes,

3:22

you're following these two characters

3:25

who meet the last day of school in

3:28

Edinburgh and for

3:30

one day for the next 20 years you see like

3:32

the course of their relationship and their lives and

3:37

It's such an easy binge watch because

3:39

the episodes are only between like 20 and 30

3:41

minutes a lot of them only 22 minutes long

3:44

Yeah, and you immediately want to

3:46

watch the next one because the next one is a

3:48

year later So you're like where the fuck are they

3:50

a year later? Like you're immediately you you

3:53

want to know and I'm thinking Had

3:55

had they aged these actors up in one year increments?

4:00

You know, it wasn't that,

4:03

that's a really good question. I would love

4:05

a deep dive with, you know, costume and

4:08

makeup people on how they thought about that.

4:11

But it isn't, it's

4:13

a drastic age change in some ways, but in

4:16

other ways it's not really. What are they? How

4:18

younger and they start? How? I think

4:21

that they're like, I don't think it's a full 20 years.

4:23

I think they're probably like 22 to 38 or something like that. Yeah,

4:27

I mean, I guess. You know? They

4:29

make them look young at 22. Like

4:32

she has completely different hair and

4:35

terrible style and they basically make her more

4:37

put together as

4:39

she gets older. That's

4:41

realistic. Yeah. But

4:45

the fucking A you guys, I didn't

4:48

watch the final episode because I kept

4:50

reading these headlines that was like gut

4:52

wrenching new series or. You will want

4:54

to die after you. Exactly.

4:57

Exactly. And I was like, fuck, fuck, fuck.

4:59

I don't think I can do it. I don't think I can do

5:02

it. So then I just read spoilers and I know what happens and

5:04

I was like, I, okay, it's fine. I can watch it. I can

5:06

watch it. So I was like, fetching it and then I

5:09

like turn it off and then I would turn it back on a bit. And

5:11

we just fucking watch it. You know what's going to

5:13

happen? Just let it happen. Just let it happen. And

5:15

then I would turn it off. Oh no. I don't

5:17

have a thing to end. But

5:19

Leo Waddell, is that how you say his name? He

5:22

is for dreamy. I

5:25

like have a crush on him now. Is

5:27

he British in it? Yeah, he's

5:29

British. He's really cute. And

5:33

I don't get like crushes on actors

5:35

a lot. So it was

5:37

nice to feel that way. Nice. Yeah, I

5:39

can't relate to that at all. I think I get a crush on

5:41

every single actor I've ever seen on screen. Every

5:44

single one. It's a huge problem

5:47

for me. I just don't. I

5:49

wish that I did because it makes watching things

5:51

so much more fun. He

5:54

is a, he kind of is despicable in this

5:56

series in a lot of ways. So you're not completely

5:58

in love with him. None

6:00

a really come here and the first

6:02

episode is an ad season attacks the

6:05

whole time and sometimes men just the

6:07

good and attacks or and unpacks underlined

6:09

do that for a man. Anyway,

6:11

I recommend it if you want to see all.

6:14

The. Time side it's yet I

6:16

we you're more interested. I'm lessons

6:18

and preset by bell use. You've

6:20

convinced me. sad Feel bad. About.

6:25

My scientists quit and it's a quick

6:27

watch, you know? Ah, it's pretty immediately

6:30

it entertaining Santa, you know I'm I'm

6:32

actually looking for a show to watch

6:34

for the whole rest of the day

6:37

after he finishes thirty or so. They

6:41

added a similar thing they're watching a show in

6:43

a character died in and like a with i

6:45

recent like this outbreak sounded very upsetting years i

6:47

guess the in a tinge central character but like

6:50

I really hated it and I had to like.

6:53

Keep. Telling myself like this wasn't real,

6:55

like this was a real hadn't gotten

6:57

us in a real person slight. It's

6:59

really hard sometimes. I

7:02

know this any wanna you wanna be real

7:04

but as also I love it when I

7:07

love a so you know for those the

7:09

great or yes glorious thirty six hours and

7:11

I still had the show and my last

7:13

oh is so exciting to sit down and.

7:16

Now I had a Sierra Leone Hard to our

7:18

that is really nice. Feels good.

7:20

Really kills Can. Really

7:22

does He went of his eyes.

7:26

Are your weeks? While I

7:28

I are wrapped up my job, I

7:30

had my last day on Friday them

7:33

and I have a whole week off.

7:35

And I guess what theory is I'm already

7:37

like I don't many times you anything like

7:39

that I've started. Yeah about what I had

7:42

all these thoughts as years I'm in India,

7:44

my week off. Wow I'm an egg. I'm

7:46

gonna do this project community these alter a

7:48

sans I'm gonna go to this story that

7:50

stuff and enemy like Alamo down with on

7:52

I don't mind. Last I. I

7:54

drove. Sammy home same

7:56

in July where where our friends healthily

7:59

and drove saying. Which meant I had to

8:01

make space in the back of my car and was immediately

8:03

like oh my god I have my car is full

8:05

of shit. I've been meaning to do for Literally

8:09

months clothes need to be donated Pox

8:12

just needs to be returned and I

8:14

I'm I'm like I I The

8:16

week is already gone. The week is already gone. I

8:18

don't have any time to do anything. It won't be

8:20

relaxing at all How

8:23

do you like it's just because I haven't had

8:25

time to live my life and And

8:28

all of a sudden I'm like I have to get everything done

8:30

this week So I'll never have time again because then I'm gonna

8:32

start another job Emily you're really

8:34

speaking my language because as you

8:36

know, I have not had a full-time

8:38

job in Months

8:41

now possibly approaching the

8:43

year mark no,

8:46

no, it's not that long but I Still

8:50

have that feeling I'm still like catching

8:52

up with stuff That

8:55

the hell it it's it's a

8:57

very interesting thing that happens in your brain where

9:02

When you have important things to do

9:04

like you have children or you have

9:06

a job that is just a priority

9:08

and yeah You don't know other things

9:10

the other things get filed to a

9:12

lesser Importance level and you don't stress

9:14

about those things. But once you

9:17

don't have those things focus on then those

9:20

Lower tier things become extremely

9:23

anxiety inducing and they're all the

9:26

same. They're all important Yes.

9:28

Yeah, and it's so hard to prioritize This

9:30

is really resonating with me because I'll have like a

9:32

free hour or two and all of a sudden I'll

9:34

be like What

9:37

do I do with my hour like it

9:39

feels like an avalanche of things

9:42

and I am paralyzed and just sit

9:44

and look at my phone and don't

9:47

Yeah I'm

9:49

like I woke up this morning It I like

9:53

was laying in bed and that thing in the morning where it's

9:55

like you're trying to go back to sleep But then you can't

9:57

really I just started thinking about all the things we needed to

9:59

do when was I gonna do

10:01

them and was

10:03

immediately like well I guess

10:06

this week off is already full

10:09

of tasks and it's not gonna be any fun

10:11

and that's not true I am gonna relax Joel

10:14

and I are going to Madonna Inn. That is

10:16

book that is like required relaxation time I can't

10:18

do my errands while I'm at Madonna Inn so

10:20

that was a good choice and

10:22

I'm grateful for the week off but it is I

10:25

just all of a sudden was

10:27

like oh okay so

10:30

I have stuff I still have stuff to

10:32

do and this feeling of like

10:34

you're never gonna get this opportunity again when are you

10:36

ever gonna get on one week off without jobs you

10:38

know between you know it's like so it also feels

10:40

like you better get all the projects done that you

10:43

have been waiting to do because this is your

10:45

one shot so

10:48

this is giving me anxiety I'm

10:50

sorry you

10:52

need to time block your days Monday and

10:55

Tuesday are tasks days and you just like

10:57

fucking yeah do it all yeah do it

10:59

all make some lists I love to make

11:02

a list I have an

11:04

app that's just called calendar oh

11:06

that's a great idea that I

11:08

prefer or it's called calendars excuse

11:10

me thank you and I do

11:12

pay for it but it's cheap

11:14

and I prefer it to Google's

11:17

layout it just really I'm gonna look

11:20

into this for me and you can

11:22

add tasks and I literally

11:24

put everything in a calendar because

11:26

yeah the smallest things

11:28

like doing dishes or what I'm like it's

11:31

in the calendar because oh I love that

11:33

and I can stress

11:35

about it less because I so I

11:39

spend every Monday planning out my whole week that's like

11:41

the first thing I do Monday morning and I love

11:43

that I don't have to stress anymore and I'm like

11:45

well the whole week's planned out now and so I

11:47

don't have to feel like I have to do everything

11:49

at once because now I've been a jeweled that laundry

11:51

is on Thursday so I don't have to like freak

11:53

out about it very I think I need to get

11:55

back that's you know what that's gonna be a goal

11:58

as I move into this next job is

12:01

get like having a better plan and

12:03

letting because that it is relaxing to

12:06

like know when things are happening. My

12:08

one of my co-workers as a as

12:10

a gift you know leaving gift got

12:12

me a planning journal which

12:15

I do love. I do love a planner. God I love

12:17

a planner. So maybe today I'm going to take

12:19

a look at that planner and I'm going to write some things down. Yeah

12:22

it just it it it lessens the

12:24

stress when

12:26

you can yeah put

12:28

it down on paper and just be like well I don't have to worry

12:30

about it right now because I can do that then. Like that's what I

12:32

did when I was in school but I haven't lived that way you know

12:34

what I mean but like that that's what it that's why you have like

12:37

little planners when you're in school because you have to be like well I'm

12:39

gonna do this classes work from this to this time but then I have

12:41

to do this classes and we can think about life

12:43

that way you know we can think about life that way. I

12:46

simply have to it is not an

12:48

option for me to not have that

12:50

because otherwise I have this feeling of

12:52

avalanche like we're describing. If I don't

12:55

put everything on paper in

12:57

designated time slots then it

12:59

feels like it all needs to happen right now.

13:02

Oh god. Oh you guys I

13:04

did this I put everything into time slots. Oh

13:07

it didn't. Your children don't

13:09

know what your time slots are. I feel

13:11

like that's that's the problem there. I

13:14

like spend so much time doing it I was like

13:16

this is exactly how I'm gonna spend my days well

13:18

a lot you better believe I haven't fucking done one

13:20

thing in one of those time slots like not once.

13:22

Well how could you possibly. Instead

13:24

I live off of these little my

13:26

mother-in-law actually got me this like pile

13:28

of paper. I keep on my desk. A

13:31

pile of paper very sweet. And

13:33

I just I literally

13:35

like just write on these little pieces of

13:38

paper and that I do love that's the

13:40

only way I can and I

13:42

have to do it like within like a certain

13:44

time period if I do it too far

13:47

in advance. I'm

13:49

not looking at this again. I'm looking at

13:51

this again. No honestly this was really helpful for

13:53

me. This is helpful

13:55

for me. Okay good. Piles of paper.

13:57

I'll send you this app. We

14:00

all need we all need little systems

14:02

in place, you know and how many I think a big

14:04

part of it Is this

14:06

like even if the plan goes awry? I think

14:09

there's something to setting the plan to

14:12

Intentional, you know, yeah. Yeah, if I

14:14

had a Toddler in

14:16

control of my day like they're

14:19

not gonna they don't they're chaos machines

14:21

Like they don't fucking know what is

14:23

on the paper. Yeah, that's as

14:25

a chaos machine and so is

14:27

may they're both chaos machines Cute

14:29

though. They're fucking cute Sami

14:35

right Sammy. Let's do it. Let's just

14:37

just how to hear my you gotta

14:43

Know you're really excited to

14:45

get to the bad feeling

14:47

time My scary

14:49

things not actually scary. It's more of

14:51

a plug. It's I guess it's a

14:53

little scary. I have a Documentary

14:56

series that I worked on coming

14:58

out on March 5th on Netflix

15:01

So it's a little scary to create something

15:04

and put it into the world. Absolutely

15:07

The show is called the program Collins

15:10

cults and kidnapping it is

15:13

about the troubled teen industry.

15:15

It is not a fun

15:17

watch Mmm,

15:20

but I am very proud

15:22

of it and I

15:24

am excited that it's finally coming out because I

15:26

actually finished working on it about a year ago

15:28

and I don't

15:31

know what took this long, but who knows?

15:35

But it's finally coming out and I'm

15:38

excited for people to see it It's

15:41

really important. It's really important. I think that

15:43

not enough people know that this industry exists

15:46

and so it's so so wild It's

15:49

so just trying to feel bad for sure It's

15:52

feel bad. But yes, these but

15:54

I'm excited still exist. I feel

15:56

like a

15:59

point of reference that some people may know

16:01

is that Paris Hilton was in one of these

16:03

programs. She

16:06

was in one that's the same

16:09

company that we focus on in

16:11

this documentary series. We're focusing on

16:14

a company called Wasp. It's the

16:16

worldwide association of specialty programming. That

16:19

might not be correct but something like that. And

16:22

they're basically the umbrella company that started

16:24

all these programs

16:28

in different states that

16:30

are just privately run.

16:32

Nobody is

16:35

accredited with any

16:38

like professional degrees. The teachers are not

16:41

teachers. The counselors

16:43

have no licenses. Like they're basically

16:45

just people hired from the community

16:48

and given pamphlets

16:51

of how to do jobs that they're

16:53

in no way qualified for. And because

16:57

they are privately

16:59

run, there's no

17:02

oversight. There's no rules

17:04

or regulations that they have to

17:06

follow. These places are perfect

17:09

places for child abuse to happen

17:12

and that's kind of worked into

17:14

some of the language

17:16

of the way

17:19

that they run the programs because

17:21

they use the fact that teens

17:24

are being sent there because they're

17:26

in a rebellious problematic

17:29

stage of their you

17:32

know life. And so then they

17:34

tell you oh your kids are liars, your

17:36

kids are manipulators. They're gonna say that you

17:38

know bad things are happening here. Don't believe

17:40

them. And yeah it's

17:44

really devastating and they were

17:47

extremely popular in the early 2000s

17:49

and they're you know less popular

17:51

today but they still exist. And

17:54

yeah so I

17:56

hope people will check it out. It's called the

17:58

program Netflix March. And,

18:03

you know, just watch

18:06

with caution. But yeah, I

18:08

hope people watch. Yeah,

18:11

because a big part of it is that

18:13

parents didn't know exactly what they were sending their

18:15

kids into. I think parents, not

18:17

all of them, but some parents were

18:20

doing all the best intentions, thinking that

18:22

they were doing the best thing they

18:24

could for their kid. And

18:27

the places are like propaganda machines.

18:30

Yeah, it was at the time when

18:33

there was a lot of focus on tough love.

18:36

Yeah. Oh, I know.

18:40

Well, proud of you, Sammy. Thank you,

18:43

Henley. You're amazing. Thank

18:45

you. And

18:49

now, without further ado, Henley,

18:51

we can talk about this

18:53

week's movie. Okay.

18:55

Which is Eden Lake. It

18:58

came out in 2008, written

19:01

and directed by James Watkins,

19:04

starring Kelly Riley, Michael Fassbender,

19:06

and Jack O'Connell. And it

19:08

is streaming on Free V. Free

19:11

V! Free V! Free V

19:13

keeps coming up in my life. There's something else that

19:15

was on Free V that I was trying to watch.

19:18

Jury duty? No, I

19:20

didn't remember what it was. I've never

19:22

heard of this movie. Me either. No?

19:25

No. I had definitely heard

19:27

of it. In my

19:29

brain, it was kind of lumped

19:31

into a torture porny time. No.

19:35

I wouldn't call it torture porn,

19:37

but it's

19:39

2008, you know? This was, yeah, we

19:41

were kind of in good time for it. This

19:43

is a British film and so I don't know.

19:47

It was like living in the same

19:49

place in my mind as like Inside

19:51

and High Tension,

19:54

even though they're French films,

19:56

but I

19:58

think it's roughly this. same time.

20:00

Did you like it, Sami? I did

20:02

like it, yes. Okay,

20:05

okay. All right. Don't

20:07

let that soothe you, Henley. You

20:09

know, I remember kind of enjoying

20:11

high tension. Yeah. I

20:14

like high tension. I like high tension as well.

20:17

I'm gonna love this one. Okay, yeah. I

20:19

think maybe we're in for... Yay!

20:22

Thank you. Thank you. Eden

20:25

Lake has an 81% on Rotten Tomatoes, 65% on

20:27

Metacritic and a 6.7 on IMDB. Standard.

20:35

Budget was $2 million. It made $4

20:37

million. Okay, so,

20:39

you know, doubled it's money. Doubled

20:43

it's money. It's nothing to sneeze

20:45

at. I

20:47

couldn't really find much trivia

20:49

about it other than this

20:51

is James Watkins' directorial

20:54

debut. Movies

20:56

of Crisp, 91 Minutes. Ooh!

21:00

And it's, like I said, a British film

21:02

filmed in England. Great.

21:05

That's all I got. I'll sprinkle some

21:07

more trivia in throughout but... Okay,

21:09

great. I think let's

21:12

just get into this recap. Let's do it.

21:14

Okay, let's do it. It's

21:17

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21:19

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25:02

so I'm gonna start by bragging

25:04

that immediately this music the

25:07

music that starts our opening scene I said

25:09

that sounds like the music

25:11

from The Descent. Looked it up same composer.

25:13

I have wow. Wow. He has

25:16

it to the Descent so well but

25:18

loves her horror soundtracks. To be fair

25:20

it genuinely sounds at times like they

25:22

just used the the main it is

25:26

like it's almost exactly

25:28

the same. So

25:31

we are seeing our

25:34

protagonist her name is

25:36

Jenny Greengrass. Oh. Little

25:39

on the nose there. Nothing

25:42

could be bad in Jenny Greengrass's

25:44

life. That's really funny. She

25:47

is a teacher teaching

25:49

a class full of young

25:52

students and class

25:54

is out for the weekend. It's the end

25:56

of the school day. Her boyfriend Steve

25:59

is picking up her up for

26:01

a romantic weekend getaway. This is

26:03

Michael Fassbender. Hard for

26:05

me to see him as a guy named Steve. I don't know

26:07

why. I agree. Anyway,

26:11

which is funny because Michael is a standard

26:14

name as well. Michael and Steve are

26:16

the same. Yeah, Michael and Steve are

26:18

the same to be honest, but Steve

26:20

is, maybe it's just the V. Baby,

26:22

the V is throwing me. Yeah, it's not

26:24

right. It doesn't match. It doesn't sort of

26:26

fit. So was

26:29

that a relevant point to bring up? I

26:31

mean, I keep it on this topic. Let's

26:33

stay here. Let's stay here. What

26:36

are letters might be framed

26:38

for his face? Steve. Yeah, there's

26:40

a TikTok trend, I

26:43

will say, where people go on and say, what do you think

26:45

my name is? And people

26:47

comment and then they reveal what their real name

26:49

is. And then I have people rename them

26:51

for what? Yes, yes. And

26:54

it's actually really fun to see. Yeah,

26:56

I'm into this. I like when Joel

26:58

and I take walks around the reservoir

27:00

and we pass dogs, we

27:03

have to name the dog. Pongo.

27:05

All of them are named Pongo.

27:09

You know what? We've never

27:11

named Pongo, but I really do like that.

27:13

Yeah, that's nice. So I

27:16

get it. And I like this trend. But

27:19

I guess we're going to go

27:21

with Steve. Yeah, unfortunately, his name

27:24

in this is Steve. And

27:26

before she gets into the car,

27:28

we see that Steve has an

27:30

engagement ring. So she's planning to

27:33

pop the question on this romantic

27:35

weekend. She gets in

27:37

the car, they are clearly very

27:39

much in love and they're

27:41

headed out to Eden Lake

27:45

for the weekend. They

27:49

stop at a hotel on the way and

27:51

they're seeing

27:55

the clientele at the

27:58

hotel are a little like Here,

28:02

let's get some historical context here.

28:05

So, I looked

28:07

into this. There was a

28:10

term used in this, around

28:13

this time in Britain from

28:15

like 2007 to 2010, the Conservative

28:19

Party used the term broken

28:21

Britain a lot to describe

28:25

a perceived widespread state of

28:27

social decay under the

28:29

Labor Party Prime Minister Gordon

28:32

Brown. So, just kind of

28:34

a political thing that was

28:36

happening is that they were like saying, oh, this, you

28:38

know, country is like going to shit, broken Britain. And

28:41

this was also a time of chavs. Have you

28:43

guys heard of the term chavs? No. It's

28:46

like, I feel like it was kind of Britain's

28:48

version of Jersey Shore type

28:51

of vibe. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

28:55

It's a very offensive word that was used

28:57

to describe like essentially poor people. It's

29:00

like working class Brits. Like

29:03

almost like when we say like white

29:05

trash like that kind of vibe. And

29:10

so, the chavs

29:13

would wear, oh, and it's also chav,

29:17

I don't know if this is actually how the

29:19

name originated. There's like a few different

29:21

ways that this term could have originated,

29:24

but it's often referred

29:26

to as an acronym for council housed

29:28

and violent. So it's like people that

29:30

live in public housing and... Oh, Lord.

29:33

So it's this

29:36

like demonization of

29:38

poor people as violent

29:40

criminals. And this

29:43

is just something that was I think

29:45

in the media a lot at this time.

29:48

They're just like us. I was going to

29:50

say never again and we have nothing, no

29:52

idea what that's like. So

29:56

we're seeing at this hotel some of

29:58

the other people staying. there seem

30:01

to be of the chav

30:03

variety and like poor people,

30:06

there's a kid that's really screaming and Steve says

30:08

he's about to say that looks like this kid

30:10

could use a slap. You can like tell that

30:13

that's what he's about to say and but before

30:15

you can even say it, the mom slaps the

30:17

kid and so we're

30:20

and then they're willing to go. So

30:24

and these people are

30:26

drinking and like yelling at each other and

30:29

they're like a little Steve

30:31

and Jenny look a little out

30:33

of place here and she's saying

30:36

like are you sure Ian Lake

30:38

is like a nice getaway

30:40

and he's like yeah, yeah, he's familiar

30:43

with it from his childhood. He's like it at

30:45

least like it used to be beautiful.

30:48

You're gonna love it. I swear once we get there, you're

30:50

gonna love it. It's gorgeous. So

30:54

we continue on the next

30:56

day and make it to the lake

30:58

and it is very beautiful and as

31:02

they're walking through this forest,

31:05

it's pretty remote

31:09

and they have to walk through

31:11

this forest to get to the lake and

31:13

they pass by a little kid named Adam

31:15

who's a little quiet and strange and they're

31:18

trying to Jenny's trying to

31:20

I don't know just talk to him because

31:22

she's a teacher and she loves kids but

31:25

he's being very standoffish. So

31:27

they don't does

31:29

he have a tongue? Great question.

31:31

He does have a tongue. Oh, I already I already

31:34

this movie is great. I love

31:36

it. We'll see if he keeps

31:38

his tongue. We'll

31:40

see if he keeps his tongue. Remember

31:46

that everybody had tongues at the beginning of the

31:48

movie you're referring to? Oh, no, they didn't. They

31:50

didn't. Not everybody. Not

31:52

everybody. Not everybody did. You're right.

31:55

Not everybody. Okay, so they set

31:57

up their towels and cool.

32:00

cooler picnic, whatever by the lake. It's

32:04

seeming like they're having a nice time.

32:06

Everything's actually turning out

32:09

pretty well until a

32:12

group of teens sets

32:17

up next to them and

32:21

genuinely, teenagers really

32:23

are horrible. They're

32:26

horrible. They're horrible. So bad.

32:28

Yeah, they're really – even the best of

32:30

them are so bad. There's just nothing to

32:32

be done. And it's horrible

32:34

to be a teenager. It's like in packs.

32:36

You get like two

32:39

teens together and oh, no. I

32:42

think I talked about this already on the

32:44

podcast, but when I went to see Godzilla

32:47

minus one, there was a

32:49

row of teenagers behind me

32:52

just being so fucking

32:54

obnoxious and someone told them

32:56

to be quiet and I'm like, you can't

32:58

do that. You cannot talk to teens. That's

33:02

the thing about teens. A losing battle here.

33:04

They like it when they make you mad.

33:06

They are impenetrable.

33:12

There's no defense against a group of teens.

33:15

And they know it. They fucking know it.

33:18

Wait, did I tell you guys about what the

33:20

Fourth of July party I saw on Long Beach?

33:22

Did I tell you guys about this? No. It's

33:25

the strangest bay in Long Beach. There's a

33:28

teen party that happens every year during the

33:30

daytime. And it's – I've never

33:32

seen this many – so Tim's family goes

33:34

there every year and it's usually very peaceful.

33:36

It's on the bay. There's lots of children

33:38

because there are no waves, whatever. Fourth

33:41

of July, the teens come out in

33:43

an actual pack and

33:45

it was insane. It was like 2

33:48

p.m. like you couldn't see

33:50

the sand. There were so many teens. There

33:52

were so many fucking teens. And

33:54

the craziest part was that there was

33:56

a Long Beach police boat.

34:00

ship. It was all

34:02

gray, like looked like it was about

34:04

to go into battle. Just a bobbing

34:06

right in front of the teens.

34:09

Oh, my God. They're all drinking,

34:11

smoking, doing whatever the fuck they're

34:13

doing, like raging, blaring music. Police

34:16

just bobbing, watching them. Obviously it's

34:18

all white kids. So like that

34:20

probably makes a difference. But I

34:22

was like, what is going

34:24

on? There is clearly underage drinking happening. Why

34:26

aren't you like doing anything about it? Oh,

34:29

my God. I don't understand. That's so

34:31

powerful that even the cops. They're

34:33

so powerful. They're so powerful. They're

34:35

so intervene. They are absolutely terrifying.

34:38

Oh, my God.

34:40

It was crazy. Well, this

34:43

isn't that many teens. It's like six of them

34:45

though. But yeah, like we said, even two is

34:47

too many. Yeah, six is a lot, I would

34:49

say. And they have a vibe

34:51

similar to what you were just describing.

34:53

They're blasting music. They have a big

34:56

Rottweiler dog with them that's barking and

34:58

not on a leash. And

35:01

it comes in, it's like barking

35:03

in Jenny's face. Pretty scary

35:06

dog. And they

35:08

ask them to turn their

35:11

music down. Oh, no. Which

35:13

you just can't do. You can't

35:16

do it. You cannot do it.

35:18

You gotta just leave. You gotta exit

35:20

the premises. You have to leave. Oh,

35:22

there is a moment in the hotel

35:25

from the night before where the people

35:29

in the room next to them are screaming at

35:32

each other and Jenny tells

35:34

Steve, can you go tell them to keep

35:36

it down? And she's kind of joking about

35:38

it. But then she makes

35:40

a comment like, are you a man or a mouse?

35:43

And so I think that's

35:45

maybe... Spurring some

35:48

of that now. And he's mind

35:50

now that he's got to stand

35:52

up for himself and

35:54

his girlfriend. And so

35:56

he's like, I won't be bullied

35:58

by these teens. teens, but

36:01

sir, yes you will, yes you will.

36:03

Yeah, good fucking luck, you always will.

36:06

So of course, you know, they are

36:11

not turning their music down, they're being

36:13

little shits. The

36:15

music is so loud that the main guy

36:18

played by Jack O'Connell who I really love

36:20

Jack O'Connell but he plays

36:23

a real shitty teen and

36:27

he's saying like, can't hear you,

36:29

music's too loud, bro, bro.

36:36

So Steve gives up, obviously

36:38

defeated, he's no match for these teens

36:42

and they're trying to have a good time

36:44

but obviously the time's ruined.

36:46

This is no fun at all. I'll

36:51

describe a little bit of the other teens.

36:54

So, Jack O'Connell is the

36:56

main one. His name is

36:58

Brett, he's clearly the ringleader, the

37:00

one they all seem to be

37:02

kind of deferring to. There's

37:05

also one girl in the group, her

37:07

name is Paige. Now see,

37:09

Paige is the right name for the one

37:11

girl in a group of guys. Yup, yup,

37:13

yup. Yeah, that's interesting, that's right. Every

37:16

page I knew growing up was

37:18

like a guys' girl. Yup. I

37:21

don't know, something to think about. It's

37:25

interesting. It is interesting. We

37:27

think about it. I

37:30

don't have the other kids names down

37:32

except for there's one that looks younger

37:34

than the rest and his name is

37:36

Cooper. Hmm. They're

37:40

looking at Jenny in

37:43

binoculars, just making them

37:46

uncomfortable and they stay

37:49

the whole day and they again ruin

37:51

the whole day and eventually leave and

37:53

they walk like almost on top of

37:56

their towels. They like walk so close

37:58

to them as they leave. and

38:00

Jenny and Steve are looking at them and Paige is

38:02

like, you want to take

38:05

a photo? It'll last longer. God, that

38:07

was perfect. So,

38:11

they're gone and few of them are gone. So,

38:14

Steve and Jenny bring out

38:16

their fucking tent and I'm

38:18

like, oh my God, we're

38:21

camping. No, no, no,

38:23

no. What? They're camping at

38:26

this lakeside. So, they set up camp,

38:28

they make their little fire. Oh,

38:31

no. I'm really not happy

38:34

to see this. Me

38:36

either. It's

38:38

nighttime now. They're in the

38:41

tent. Looking

38:43

out. Then they

38:45

hear a little noise. Steve

38:48

goes out to check it out and

38:51

we hear a weird noise, like a

38:54

groaning noise. Oh, God. And

38:56

Jenny says like, Steve, stop. Stop it.

38:59

Like, you're freaking me out and

39:01

that's quiet for a while. And

39:05

then there's footsteps coming closer to the

39:07

tent and she's saying, you know, Steve,

39:09

Steve, stop. Like,

39:11

you're freaking me out. 10

39:14

tons of tips. Steve barges

39:16

in laughing. I got you so

39:18

good. No. I

39:21

hate that. That is not okay. No,

39:24

not when you're camping. And not

39:27

when you've had such a day

39:29

with teenagers. Yeah, not when they're

39:31

hostile. We will see who has

39:33

the last laugh, Steve. Indeed,

39:37

we will. But we make

39:39

it through first night okay. Wake

39:42

up in the morning. Their food, they did not,

39:44

it seems like they didn't even try to put

39:47

their food in a food safe container. It's covered

39:49

in ants and bugs. So all their food now

39:51

is ruined. So they

39:53

got to go into town, which is a couple

39:55

miles away. They

39:58

go into town. to

40:00

a diner to get breakfast and the

40:02

waitress, Steve asks the waitress, have you

40:04

seen this group of kids? We

40:07

saw them by the lake yesterday. They were a

40:09

little rowdy and she laughs it off

40:12

and is like, oh yeah, those darn

40:14

kids. And he's like, well, they were

40:16

actually like a little, I don't

40:20

know, I can't remember what he says, but like

40:22

their parents might want to know about this thing

40:24

that they did or something and the

40:29

waitress gets weirdly defensive about it and

40:31

she's like, they're not my kids. And

40:35

he's like, no, no, I'm not saying that I just

40:37

like if their parents wanted to know they were, dude,

40:39

I don't know if they were smoking

40:41

weed or something. Like he's like trying to tattle

40:43

on them essentially and this waitress

40:47

is not having it and it's like, they're

40:49

not my kids. I don't know what you want me to

40:51

do about it. And it is a really weird encounter. Also

40:53

fair. I mean, it's a waitress at a

40:56

diner. Like how would she, is it supposed

40:58

to be like an extremely small town where

41:00

this woman would know their parents? I

41:03

think it is a pretty small town and

41:05

it's just she goes

41:07

from laughing and bubbly

41:09

to like extremely pissed off really

41:11

quickly. Interesting. And it like

41:13

sours the rest of their interaction and

41:17

it's like the moment of like, oh, we were having a

41:19

fun convo and now

41:21

you don't like us anymore. And

41:23

so it's just a strange

41:26

interaction and

41:28

so they're driving back to the campsite

41:32

now when they pass

41:35

the house where they see one

41:37

of the kids like walking behind

41:39

the house. So they've tracked down that this is,

41:41

they see that this is the house of

41:44

Brett. Steve

41:48

stops. Jenny is saying no. Steve, come

41:50

on. Steve, you idiot. It's

41:53

really quite crazy. He walks up

41:55

to the house, knocks on the door. Nobody

41:58

answers. He opens it

42:01

and walks in. What?

42:05

Really crazy move

42:07

here, Steve. Making a

42:09

lot of mistakes. Just

42:13

because she said, are you a man or

42:15

a mouse? Doesn't mean you go breaking an

42:17

energy. Strange

42:20

people's houses. No. I

42:23

did spot a fire poker in this

42:25

scene. Does not come into use, unfortunately,

42:27

but I've always got an eye out

42:29

for them. So,

42:34

he goes in and

42:38

as he's, you know,

42:41

calling out and trying to say, hello,

42:43

hello, is anybody home? You

42:45

don't do this. You just simply don't do this.

42:47

Yeah, you are breaking and entering. Yeah. As

42:51

he's deep in the house, a truck

42:55

pulls into the driveway, their dad

42:57

is arriving home and he

43:00

gets, he's like, oh, shit, shit,

43:02

shit and runs upstairs. What does

43:04

he think is going to happen? To

43:06

hide? I don't

43:08

know. I don't know. Sorry. Yeah,

43:11

no, it's nuts. It's not a good plan. And

43:14

so, he's now trying to climb

43:16

out the window of Brett's room.

43:19

You can like see photos. This

43:22

is Brett's room and

43:24

outside of the window, Brett and all

43:26

his shitty little friends are playing

43:29

in the yard. And

43:32

so, he's got the dad coming up

43:34

the stairs because he's heard someone, you

43:36

know, walking around in the room and he's

43:38

about to yell at, he's thinking it's Brett.

43:42

And Steve is dangling himself

43:44

out of this window to try to

43:46

get out before the dad gets up

43:48

there. And all the

43:50

rest of the teens are just out of

43:53

like 20 feet away from him

43:55

that if they turn their heads, they're going to see him.

44:00

He jumps off the

44:02

roof, makes it back to the car, narrowly

44:06

escaping being caught by anybody.

44:11

Okay. Really? Even

44:14

imagine getting myself into that kind of

44:16

pickle. Yep.

44:20

So, okay. So now we are

44:22

driving back to the lake and

44:24

Steve's scuba diving. He's

44:28

brought scuba gear. That kind of threw me. So

44:32

he's scuba diving now. How kind of lake is this?

44:34

Yeah. It's pretty big but I wouldn't

44:36

think there'd be too much to see in it.

44:39

It's still a lake. It's not, you know,

44:42

a great barrier. Maybe he's got to swim deep.

44:46

Yeah, maybe he's practicing for the real

44:48

thing. Yeah, that's a good

44:50

idea. Yeah. Feels like a pretty

44:53

weird proposal trip. And

44:58

he, yes, as he gets

45:00

out, he's, we see him kind

45:02

of get in the ring and he's saying

45:04

it's crazy. The stuff that you can find

45:06

on the bottom of the lake. I

45:09

see that. And it's weird.

45:11

He's got this interesting proposal

45:14

plan and he's about to pop the question

45:16

when, Jenny

45:19

says, where's the beach bag? She's

45:21

looking around and their bag

45:24

is missing. Steve

45:26

puts the ring away, says what? Our

45:30

phones and car keys

45:32

and wallet are in that bag.

45:35

They go, they get up, they look, their car

45:38

is gone. And

45:41

so now they're kind

45:44

of running through the forest again to get to the main

45:46

road. And

45:49

the car almost hits

45:51

them. Brett is flooring their own car at

45:53

them. Truly murder attempt here with

45:56

their car. They

45:58

like jump out of the lake. away. Stan

46:01

L Whoa. Sarah

46:04

G Then

46:07

they follow the direction that the car is going, it's getting to be

46:09

nighttime again and they track down the group

46:11

of teens to another part of the lake

46:13

where they're having a bonfire, blasting

46:16

music again. They

46:19

Steve and Jenny walk up and say, could we

46:21

get, we don't want

46:23

any trouble man, can we just get our bag

46:25

back? Steve

46:27

says, well, I don't know what you're talking

46:30

about mate. It

46:34

ain't us, like you got the wrong person and

46:37

he's wearing sunglasses, it's nighttime. Steve

46:39

says, are those my sunglasses? He's like, no mate,

46:42

mine. Maryamie What

46:47

about their cars? They say like, we saw you driving our car. Sarah They

46:50

don't say that but they're saying like, we know that you took our bag,

46:53

just give it back. The

46:57

dog's barking and tensions

46:59

are mounting. He's just

47:01

saying, come on man, just like give us back our

47:04

bag. Jenny's saying Steve, let's

47:06

just drop it, let's just go. Steve

47:10

is, you know, stepping closer to Brett saying,

47:13

come on man, like just give us our

47:15

stuff. Somebody

47:17

shut that dog up and

47:19

he's, Steve is now getting a little

47:21

bit more in Brett's face. Brett is

47:24

stepping closer to Steve, we're getting in

47:26

each other's face. One of

47:28

the other kids pulls a knife like a little

47:30

switch blade and Steve sees it

47:32

and like

47:36

grabs his wrist and is trying

47:38

to like shake the knife free

47:41

when the dog jumps and

47:43

attacks them and the

47:46

knife stabs through the dog's jaw,

47:49

kills the dog. Oh shit.

47:52

So it was an accident but

47:55

now the dog is dead. Oh

47:57

shit. He's just saying, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry.

47:59

So sorry, give me the car keys back.

48:01

I'll drive you guys to the vet right

48:03

now. Dog's

48:05

already dead. Oh,

48:08

shit. He

48:10

sees the bag. Steve like sees the bag

48:12

somewhere I think, grabs it and

48:14

Brett is crying and screaming, you

48:17

killed my fucking dog. It's

48:20

really good, Sammy. It's really good. And

48:24

Steve and Jenny make a run for it. They grab the bag. They

48:27

see the car and get into

48:29

it, but it's nighttime and they're in the middle

48:31

of the woods. So they're driving fast,

48:36

but it seems so dangerous because

48:38

he can't see well

48:40

enough in front of him. And

48:43

so eventually they crash into a tree

48:47

and Steve gets barricaded

48:49

into his seat,

48:51

like a branch like crashes through

48:54

the window. And they basically pin

48:56

him into the truck. And

48:58

so he tells Jenny, he's like, you've got

49:00

to run, go get help. And

49:04

she because the teens are running

49:06

chasing them like screaming. You

49:08

fuckers, fucking assholes. And

49:12

so Jenny gets out and she runs,

49:14

but they're too close that they'll be

49:16

able to see her. So she hides

49:19

in some roots and like covers herself

49:21

up. Jesus. And

49:24

I guess stays there overnight

49:27

because it cuts to morning of

49:29

her coming out

49:31

of her hiding spot. What?

49:33

Did you fall asleep? I

49:36

don't know. She's like, I'm so

49:38

comfy in these sticks and leaves. And

49:40

so we didn't see what happened to

49:42

Steve. We just cut. We just

49:45

cut. And

49:47

so now

49:49

she's hearing the teens

49:52

and she's following the sound of their

49:55

voices. This is where I'm starting to

49:57

yell, Jenny, you dumb bitch, go get

49:59

help. So, like

50:01

he said, what have you been doing sleeping

50:03

all night? This

50:06

is kind of a weird decision here on Jenny's part.

50:09

But she follows the sounds of

50:11

their voices and she's hidden

50:14

behind a tree and peering around and seeing

50:16

all of them. We've got

50:18

Steve tied up with

50:21

barbed wire. He's

50:23

bleeding. They've clearly been,

50:25

you know, punching him

50:27

and he's not

50:30

looking good. And

50:33

the teens are in various

50:35

states of anger

50:38

and fear. Like some of them are like, we

50:40

can't do this man, come on, this is like

50:42

we're going too far Brett. Brett

50:46

and Paige are

50:48

the most like

50:51

pissed off and unwavering in their

50:53

like, no, we're like fucking this

50:55

guy up. That's our plan. And

50:58

so the other kids are trying to convince

51:00

them to let him go. Brett

51:04

says the second we let him go, he's calling the

51:07

cops and we're all going to be in

51:09

deep shit. So, we can't let him

51:11

go. So, what's the plan? You're

51:13

going to kill him. Teens are also so

51:15

stupid. Yeah, it's like now what? Yeah.

51:22

The other kids are trying to leave then

51:24

if they can't let Steve go and Brett

51:26

won't let them leave and is saying no,

51:28

we're all in this together. And

51:32

to ensure that he

51:34

makes each of them

51:37

stab Steve while

51:39

he films it. Each

51:42

of the other kids filming or

51:45

stabbing Steve as blackmail

51:47

essentially to be like if you don't see

51:50

through this to the end, you're

51:53

going to be fucked. So it starts

51:55

with one of the guys is crying

51:57

and does like a very small little

52:00

slice with the knife and he's like, no,

52:02

that's not enough and like makes them like

52:04

really stab him. Where? Jenny's

52:06

watching this. First in the arm, someone

52:09

stabs him in the leg and then

52:12

the last one, the youngest guy,

52:15

Cooper is really crying and like really doesn't

52:17

want to do it and for some reason

52:19

he has a box cutter instead like one

52:22

of the guys pulls out a box cutter

52:24

and is like also not hesitating

52:26

about it. And then he's

52:28

like, yeah, one guy that doesn't seem to

52:31

be too worried about stabbing him, he

52:33

pulls out his own box cutter, gives

52:36

Cooper the box cutter

52:38

and they're just like yelling at Cooper, come

52:40

on, come on, you have to stab him. Oh

52:42

my God. Cooper stabs

52:45

him in the mouth. What?

52:48

Open mouth. What? Why?

52:51

Really shocking. I just

52:53

didn't see that coming. What?

53:01

As he's like crying, yeah, he's like not happy about it

53:03

but it's like, Cooper, why did

53:05

you use that spot? Really

53:09

crazy but he's clearly like very

53:12

panicked and so

53:14

now we're all in it. There's

53:17

no good way out of this. Jenny

53:21

is watching all of this happen. She

53:23

stands there while he's stabbed four

53:26

times. I'm yelling,

53:28

Jenny, what the

53:30

fuck are you doing? Go get

53:33

help. She

53:35

does something that I don't quite understand

53:37

which is she has one of the

53:40

phones and he is Steve

53:42

has his phone, I guess they each

53:44

have their phones and she like connects

53:46

to his phone using Bluetooth to call

53:48

999 which I don't know why like

53:51

maybe she didn't have reception.

53:57

I think there's probably a reason this

53:59

happens. and it just didn't make sense to me. Okay.

54:03

So, she's trying

54:05

to call 999 from

54:07

his phone but it

54:09

rings and Brett sees it

54:12

and says like oh Bluetooth connection like

54:15

she's here somewhere like everybody spread out

54:17

and like go try to find her.

54:20

She runs, they all run after her.

54:24

They get on bikes and so they

54:27

see her running and they're chasing her on bikes

54:30

and it doesn't seem good. She's

54:32

not going to obviously be able to outrun

54:34

them and she

54:37

kind of jumps on this little

54:39

hill and throws a

54:41

branch in front of them causing them all

54:43

to crash. They're all going pretty fast so

54:45

that's good. She gets a little bit of

54:47

a gap

54:50

to run from them and she

54:52

makes it to a clearing where

54:55

there's a park ranger service

54:57

station type thing. Nobody's there

55:00

but there's

55:02

a walkie-talkie inside of this little

55:05

station and so she's trying

55:07

to get into there to get

55:10

to the walkie-talkie but if

55:12

the room is locked she's trying to like

55:14

squeeze in between the chain

55:16

on the door but it's

55:18

too small. She can't reach

55:20

the walkie-talkie and now the kids are

55:23

back chasing her again and she

55:28

is able to hide from them by

55:30

climbing on top of this little service

55:33

station. I

55:35

don't know how she did it without them noticing but

55:37

she did. So, they don't know where she is now.

55:40

They've lost her and they

55:42

continue on to go look for her so

55:44

she's able

55:47

to gather herself but

55:53

meanwhile Steve has been

55:56

left alone and he

55:58

is able to break free from this. the

56:00

barbed wire, he's bloody

56:02

stabbed like bleeding from

56:04

his mouth and all the stab wounds and

56:08

he makes

56:10

it back to their car

56:13

where they crashed and there's a

56:16

first aid kit in the back and so

56:18

he grabs that, he grabs a tire iron

56:20

as a weapon. He,

56:23

you know, sits down

56:26

next to a tree and starts

56:28

tending to his wounds and

56:30

then one of the

56:32

teens comes back to where he was tied

56:34

up, sees that he's not there, calls

56:37

Brett and says he's fucking gone.

56:40

They're like we have to find him,

56:42

everyone like run and like spread out,

56:44

see where they we need to find

56:46

them both. They cannot get out of

56:48

here. Now

56:51

Jenny's running what

56:54

she thinks is the opposite direction. That's

56:56

the other thing is like it's the

56:58

woods so and she doesn't, she's unfamiliar

57:00

with this territory and

57:03

so who's to

57:05

say what direction the road is.

57:10

It's very hard to orient yourself and

57:12

so she's running just where

57:16

she thinks she should run and

57:19

she's running very fast and

57:21

we see one of the teenagers running

57:25

looking for Steve and

57:27

Steve is like hearing him

57:29

running and as these footsteps

57:32

turn the corner, Steve just swings

57:34

that tire iron so hard and it's

57:36

Jenny but he doesn't hit her. Oh

57:39

okay. But he almost,

57:41

almost it does and

57:44

but now they're together and he's

57:47

like great where's the help you called? Yeah,

57:50

that thing I told you to do hours and

57:52

hours ago. You did seem to

57:54

use your phone to do something and

57:56

it wasn't to call for help. She's

57:59

like sorry. I took a little nap. She's like, I

58:02

felt so tired. You get it. It's like a little

58:04

nap. I was really tired. So,

58:07

she's, you know, helping carry

58:10

him. They're kind of limping

58:12

away and they find a

58:14

little shack on the

58:17

water. They go

58:19

inside. This is a very

58:21

dilapidated shack barely standing and

58:24

she locks the door behind them which

58:26

made me laugh because it's just like

58:29

essentially looks like you could blow this little

58:31

shack down. It's a huff

58:33

and puff and blow it right down. Yeah. But

58:36

so they're in there. I think they have the first aid kit

58:39

and she pulls

58:41

back his shirt to see his

58:43

wounds. So, I think one of

58:45

them stabbed him in the side

58:47

as well and it looks really

58:49

bad. It's like black blood and

58:52

he sees it and is like,

58:54

fuck, fuck, fuck. He's like, I'm

58:56

dying. Like I'm dying. I'm bleeding

58:58

out. I'm dying. Oh,

59:00

God. And she's

59:02

like, no, you're not. You're not. I need you to

59:04

like stay with me. And she's bandaging

59:08

him up best as she can. But it

59:10

does look like a really extremely

59:13

deep stab wound. And

59:17

he's losing

59:19

consciousness a bit like he's

59:21

losing a lot of blood.

59:23

And as she's wrapping him,

59:26

she finds the engagement ring

59:28

in his pocket. She

59:30

feels it and pulls it out. And he

59:34

says, you know, I thought we would maybe

59:37

go to Africa for our honeymoon. And,

59:40

you know, they just

59:42

have this moment of crying and

59:44

she puts the ring on and she's like, no,

59:46

like we're still gonna do that. Like you just

59:48

stay with me. We

59:50

hear the teens approaching and they say

59:53

something like, isn't that shack over there?

59:55

Like they know where they must be

59:57

hiding. are

1:00:01

coming fast and

1:00:03

it's seeming like we're

1:00:06

fucked. There's like nowhere for them to

1:00:08

go. But the teens

1:00:10

open the door to the shack and it's

1:00:12

empty. And we

1:00:15

see that they have

1:00:17

essentially popped one of the

1:00:19

floorboards up and gone underneath the

1:00:21

shack into the lake. And so

1:00:23

it's like at the shallow,

1:00:27

you know, edge of the lake. But

1:00:29

they're in this like nasty

1:00:31

fucking water now. Like you think about

1:00:34

these open wounds in a lake. And

1:00:36

he's definitely

1:00:39

losing conscious, like going in and

1:00:42

out of consciousness. She's holding his

1:00:44

head above water and he keeps

1:00:46

like slumping down. This is so

1:00:48

sad. There's like a tense moment of

1:00:50

one of the kids feet crashes

1:00:53

through the floorboard because again, this

1:00:55

place is very rickety.

1:00:59

And it seems like they're

1:01:02

gonna look under there but then they don't.

1:01:04

So the teens leave like okay, we gotta

1:01:07

keep looking, keep looking for them. They run away. So

1:01:10

now Jenny drags

1:01:12

Steve onto the shore. Again,

1:01:15

it's like muddy, filthy.

1:01:17

Ew, ew, ew, ew, ew. I

1:01:20

don't like it when things get

1:01:22

dirty. I just don't like that.

1:01:25

And he's still clinging on

1:01:27

to life but just barely and she

1:01:29

covers him up with branches and she

1:01:31

says like I'm gonna go get help.

1:01:34

I need you to... Oh, now

1:01:36

you're gonna go get help? Yeah,

1:01:39

now's not the best

1:01:41

time. Last night

1:01:43

while you were sleeping for the reason? Yeah,

1:01:45

what the fuck? I can't get over that

1:01:47

part. Yeah, I don't really

1:01:49

understand it. Maybe it was like not as

1:01:52

much time passed out or

1:01:54

maybe she like hit her head or something. Maybe

1:01:56

she hit her head, maybe she passed out or

1:01:58

maybe it was like... 3

1:02:01

in the morning to 4 in the morning and maybe

1:02:03

it was like the sun is coming

1:02:05

up. I don't know. I don't

1:02:07

know. But regardless,

1:02:10

even while they're just all stabbing him,

1:02:12

that could have been a good time

1:02:14

to run for help as well. Yeah.

1:02:18

Yeah, I would have liked that. So at

1:02:20

some point, Steve had told her to

1:02:22

follow the power lines. We can see

1:02:24

some power lines above. She says you

1:02:26

should be able to follow

1:02:28

those to some sort of... Smart.

1:02:31

...people will be at the end. And

1:02:34

so she's just running as fast

1:02:37

as she fucking can along these power

1:02:39

lines. And

1:02:41

we see a big pointy rock

1:02:44

in the foreground right in her

1:02:46

path. And

1:02:49

of course, her

1:02:51

foot plunges on

1:02:53

it. It goes straight through. She

1:02:57

screams so loud, all

1:02:59

the teens can hear it. She's

1:03:02

screaming and screaming and screaming. I'm saying,

1:03:04

shut the fuck up. Shut up. Oh

1:03:07

my God. Shut the fuck up,

1:03:10

Jenny Greengrass. Jenny!

1:03:15

So now all the

1:03:17

teens, they're far enough away

1:03:20

that they're not like right there, but they're all

1:03:22

running in her direction now. And

1:03:25

she tumbles down this little

1:03:27

hill and finds

1:03:29

a little spot to hide. She

1:03:32

by the way started off in this

1:03:34

cute little sun

1:03:37

dress, floral, brightly colored sun

1:03:39

dress that is now absolutely

1:03:42

filthy, disgusting, muddy. She's

1:03:44

muddy and bloody. And

1:03:48

she's trying to pull this rock

1:03:51

out of her foot. Ooh. Like

1:03:53

in her foot. Oh,

1:03:57

because of the shape of the rock.

1:04:00

She can't pull it down the way

1:04:02

that it came like because she has

1:04:04

to keep going Yep, so she has

1:04:06

to pull it out the top of

1:04:08

her foot. Holy shit. That

1:04:10

is a sharp pointy rock Yeah,

1:04:12

it almost looks like an arrowhead

1:04:16

or something I don't know if it's something to do

1:04:18

with the Ranger station

1:04:20

or something, but it's oof.

1:04:22

It looks extremely painful And

1:04:25

she's not being quiet about it still and I'm getting angry

1:04:28

but she gets it out

1:04:30

and she Keeps running

1:04:34

You know impressive must hurt a lot

1:04:37

And she runs into Adam the kid

1:04:39

from the beginning who's probably about 12

1:04:43

She's looks terrifying now and she's

1:04:45

like Adam, please Adam

1:04:49

looks really scared is like oh my god.

1:04:51

What she's like, please take me to

1:04:53

take me to like I need to talk to your

1:04:55

mom No, you need to talk to the police. He's

1:04:57

like he says his mom is is picking him up

1:05:01

And she's like no we should be talking just roaming

1:05:03

through the woods days in a row I

1:05:06

don't know and she tells him I

1:05:08

feel like we should be following the power lines

1:05:11

Because he's walking down a weird little

1:05:13

path and he tells her no.

1:05:15

No, this is a shortcut. This is a

1:05:17

shortcut We're getting down a little path and

1:05:20

he tells her no. No, this is a shortcut. This

1:05:22

is a shortcut. We're getting down Not

1:05:25

good vibes. No And

1:05:29

she's getting suspicious and is

1:05:31

saying Adam. Where are you taking me?

1:05:33

Are you sure your mom's? coming

1:05:35

here what are How

1:05:38

is she gonna get here? He

1:05:40

has a phone and she's trying to grab

1:05:42

it from him. He says it doesn't have

1:05:45

service It doesn't have service, but then she

1:05:47

it rings and she's Again

1:05:49

trying to grab it from him, but then the teens

1:05:52

arrive Adam

1:05:55

has called them

1:05:57

Adam and there's some mention

1:05:59

of him like wanting to be in

1:06:01

their crew and he

1:06:03

needs to do some sort of initiation

1:06:06

thing to prove himself, to be able

1:06:08

to hang with them. She's

1:06:12

panicking and tries to turn

1:06:14

and run but one of the teens is

1:06:16

behind her and punches her, knocks her out,

1:06:18

cut to black. Oh

1:06:21

Jesus Christ, here we go. We

1:06:25

all knew this was gonna happen. Yeah,

1:06:28

so now she wakes up, tied

1:06:32

up, covered

1:06:34

in branches and

1:06:36

twigs like in

1:06:38

a bonfire type

1:06:40

arrangement. Steve

1:06:44

is tied up behind her, he is

1:06:46

dead. Oh yeah. Oh. And

1:06:49

they are pouring gasoline all over both of them.

1:06:52

Oh my God. Oh my

1:06:54

God, this escalated so badly.

1:06:57

This is why you can't ask teens to turn

1:06:59

down the music. Never

1:07:02

do it, cautionary tale. You really can't do

1:07:04

it. You really can't. It's

1:07:06

not worth it. It's not worth

1:07:09

the fun. They won't literally light

1:07:11

you on fire. They're gonna light you on fire. If

1:07:13

you ask a teen to turn down the music, they're

1:07:15

gonna light you on fire. So

1:07:20

again, Paige is

1:07:23

filming all of this too because now

1:07:25

some of the even the ones that

1:07:27

have already been filmed stabbing him are

1:07:29

again saying we can't do this. This

1:07:31

is crazy. We need to let her

1:07:33

go. She's alive, man. We

1:07:35

can't fucking burn her alive. Paige

1:07:38

is filming it saying it's this is

1:07:40

happening. We're all implicated. This

1:07:43

is the only option. And

1:07:47

they make Adam light the

1:07:50

match. Oh my God. This is

1:07:52

his initiation thing and they make

1:07:54

him light them on fire. Adam,

1:07:58

you really want to be friends with these guys? No,

1:08:00

Adam, come on. So

1:08:02

it goes up in flames.

1:08:05

Steve goes up in

1:08:07

flames first. They're all gagging at the

1:08:09

smell of it. But

1:08:11

in the fire, because it starts on

1:08:13

the side, Steve is it. I

1:08:16

don't know, loosens or burns some of

1:08:18

her restraints in a way that she's

1:08:21

able to break free. And

1:08:23

she just fucking

1:08:26

runs. Brett calls

1:08:28

out after her. If you run, I'm

1:08:30

going to kill Adam. What?

1:08:35

Jenny keeps running. She's yeah, I'm sorry,

1:08:37

but I would try to let her

1:08:39

on fire. Yeah, yeah. So

1:08:42

sorry, Adam. And Brett

1:08:44

starts pouring gasoline on Adam. What

1:08:46

the fuck puts a tire over

1:08:49

his neck? And

1:08:51

lights him on fire and. Jenny

1:08:55

sees this. She throws

1:08:57

up. But she

1:08:59

keeps running. Yeah. OK. Yeah, there's

1:09:01

no there's no help in. Oh,

1:09:04

Adam, that is so sad. Fuck.

1:09:08

Brett is really bad. Really

1:09:11

a really bad teen. Brett is

1:09:13

really bad. She

1:09:16

finds this clearing where there's

1:09:20

like a map of, you know, like

1:09:22

a trailhead type thing. There's a map

1:09:24

of the whole forest. She

1:09:26

smashes the glass, pulls the map out so she

1:09:29

can figure out where the fuck she is and.

1:09:34

She hears them

1:09:37

approaching again. They're they're chasing after her.

1:09:39

She turns and looks for a hiding

1:09:41

place and sees a. I

1:09:46

don't know what it even it essentially just

1:09:48

looks like a trash can filled with shit.

1:09:50

I feel like it's some sort of like.

1:09:55

I don't know. Shit,

1:09:57

shit trash can. No

1:10:00

other way to say it. I

1:10:03

don't know what it is because it's like just

1:10:05

kind of free standing in the middle right next

1:10:07

to this trailhead seems like a weird place to

1:10:09

put that. Like you'd think it's like a sewage

1:10:11

thing but it looks like above

1:10:14

ground and not connected to anything. So

1:10:16

it's like where people, it's as if

1:10:18

it would be like where people dispose

1:10:20

of dog poop but it's

1:10:23

a human sized filled

1:10:26

with shit receptacle.

1:10:30

So Jenny dives

1:10:33

right in there. God bless her. Closes

1:10:37

the top is

1:10:39

covered head to

1:10:41

toe in shit

1:10:44

and the descent music is

1:10:46

blaring and she's

1:10:50

got her like little eyes poking out

1:10:52

of this. And I'm like oh my

1:10:54

god this is even like the scene

1:10:56

where she like comes out of the

1:10:59

blood. I'd rather come

1:11:01

out of blood than shit. It's

1:11:03

shit and adolescent boys instead of

1:11:06

cave monsters. I

1:11:08

don't see much of a difference. True.

1:11:12

And so they see

1:11:15

that she's gotten the map. They like are hot

1:11:17

on her trail but they don't

1:11:20

find her in the

1:11:22

shit bucket and they keep moving

1:11:26

and she gets

1:11:28

out and goes over

1:11:31

to all the broken glass from where the

1:11:33

map was and wraps like rips part of

1:11:35

her dress off to make a little handle

1:11:37

and finally makes this weapon. I'm thinking yes.

1:11:41

Good girl Jenny. I love to see

1:11:43

it and

1:11:46

as she's got her weapon

1:11:48

there's a little mirror on

1:11:50

this trailhead thing

1:11:53

that says the most dangerous animal in

1:11:55

the forest. It's a mirror showing us

1:11:57

that it's man. And

1:12:01

in this case, Jenny looking

1:12:05

really bad, covered in shit.

1:12:09

And we see Cooper

1:12:12

approaching looking like

1:12:16

so upset. He really does

1:12:18

not want to be in this situation. And

1:12:22

he sees her and he

1:12:25

calls out to her and says, Miss. And

1:12:28

we're thinking like he's going

1:12:30

to help her. And

1:12:32

she just turns around and stabs him in

1:12:34

the neck, kills him.

1:12:38

Oh my fucking God. Well, yeah.

1:12:40

I mean, she just saw them

1:12:42

light a kid on fire who

1:12:44

was alive. Yeah. And she

1:12:46

did see this kid stab her fiance in the

1:12:48

mouth. In the mouth, yeah. And

1:12:54

as Cooper's dying, he's really coughing and

1:12:57

coughing and coughing. And I'm like, everyone

1:12:59

needs to shut the fuck up in

1:13:01

this movie. And so the

1:13:04

other teens hear it, obviously. And

1:13:07

she runs and it's getting dark now. They

1:13:11

find Cooper's body. They're

1:13:14

furious, calling out, we're going to

1:13:16

fucking kill you, bitch. And

1:13:19

already were. This is kind of an

1:13:21

empty thread at this point. You can't

1:13:23

escalate past lighting me on fire. Yeah.

1:13:26

Yep. I get it. You're going

1:13:28

to kill me. Yeah, I know. Yeah,

1:13:30

that's why I know. Fucking running. And

1:13:33

she, because she has the map, she's

1:13:35

able to more efficiently run out to

1:13:38

the road and a

1:13:40

car is approaching. She runs in front of

1:13:42

the car. It stops. It's

1:13:44

like a guy in his 20s. And

1:13:48

he's like, oh my god, are you OK?

1:13:52

And she's panicking, looks insane, saying,

1:13:54

I need to get to town. I need

1:13:57

to get in town. Need

1:13:59

help. and he says, okay, okay, come

1:14:02

in, come in and they're start driving and she's

1:14:04

like, town's the other way, you need to

1:14:06

go back the other direction and he's like, yeah, I'm gonna

1:14:09

go back but my little brother's out here and

1:14:11

like he's not answering his phone. Like

1:14:15

I gotta find him, I think he's up here

1:14:17

like we have a meeting spot where if his

1:14:19

phone dies, I have to get him at this

1:14:21

meeting spot. Jenny's of course

1:14:24

putting two and two together, looking

1:14:26

nervous but being quiet

1:14:29

about it and they

1:14:31

pull up to this meeting spot

1:14:33

and outcomes Brett and the

1:14:35

other, you know,

1:14:38

Paige and the other teens and

1:14:41

the older brother

1:14:44

gets out of the car and walks over to

1:14:46

them like, mom's so mad, like what are you

1:14:48

doing? And Jenny just slips right into that driver's

1:14:50

seat. There we go,

1:14:52

turns the car around,

1:14:55

floors it. I'm thinking if I was like,

1:14:57

if I were her, I might have fucking

1:14:59

stabbed that guy. He's

1:15:01

just been like, get out of the car. Yeah,

1:15:04

yeah, yeah, yeah. Nice

1:15:07

that she didn't have to. Nice that

1:15:09

she didn't have to but she is

1:15:12

flooring it and Paige

1:15:14

like is runs like

1:15:17

in front of the

1:15:19

car to like stop her and she

1:15:21

plows through Paige. Yeah,

1:15:23

Paige dead. And

1:15:28

she drives and drives and drives until

1:15:30

she comes to a house where big

1:15:32

party's happening. There's like

1:15:34

30 or so people having a party and

1:15:36

she just like gets

1:15:39

out of the car, runs, like

1:15:41

drops to her knees in the middle of this

1:15:44

fun looking party and is like somebody

1:15:46

help me. Oh

1:15:48

my God. Everybody turns looks music stops.

1:15:51

Oh my God. Everyone

1:15:53

runs to her. These

1:15:56

women are like get her on the

1:15:58

couch and are like. Wiping

1:16:01

her off, like trying to calm her down

1:16:04

and asking what... I

1:16:06

am so anxious about whose house this is.

1:16:08

I am asking what happened. Why would you

1:16:10

stop driving? You

1:16:12

gotta get the fuck out of here.

1:16:15

Get away from all these people. I

1:16:17

know, I know. You probably just killed some

1:16:19

of these people's children. Yeah,

1:16:21

that's a...would have been a good

1:16:24

thought to have. Oh no. Cause

1:16:27

sure enough, as she's kind

1:16:29

of looking around the house,

1:16:32

we see pictures of

1:16:34

Brett on the walls. Oh

1:16:36

my God. Oh my God. We're back

1:16:38

in Brett's house. I hate this. I

1:16:40

hate this. And one of the

1:16:42

women helping her looks a lot like Paige, but

1:16:46

older. And

1:16:50

she sees Brett's dad

1:16:52

that we saw earlier and

1:16:56

he's getting a phone call and he's going,

1:16:58

what, what, slow down. What, what happened? Tell

1:17:00

me what happened. No.

1:17:05

And she sits up and

1:17:08

tells the women that are helping her,

1:17:10

I need to go to the bathroom. And

1:17:14

they show her where the bathroom is

1:17:16

and she goes into the bathroom. She

1:17:18

gets, there's like a straight razor

1:17:21

in there. She grabs that. There's

1:17:23

no window in this bathroom. She's like

1:17:25

looking for any escape. There's

1:17:28

nothing. So she just braces her. As

1:17:30

she's hearing yelling now happening and like

1:17:32

a scream happening like, oh my God,

1:17:34

what? Oh my God. Like

1:17:36

crying happening outside the

1:17:39

door. Then

1:17:41

there's like banging on the door like, get

1:17:43

out here. Get the fuck out here. And

1:17:46

she's just standing there with the, with the

1:17:48

razor as they break

1:17:50

the door down. Brett

1:17:53

is now there

1:17:56

and one of the other kids

1:17:58

I think too. It's

1:18:00

clear that they've told all

1:18:03

the adults here that the, you know, that

1:18:05

Paige is dead, that Cooper is dead. Jenny

1:18:09

starts yelling like, they killed

1:18:11

my boyfriend. They

1:18:14

killed Steve. They killed Steve. Brett's

1:18:16

dad is saying, they told me all about

1:18:18

Steve, what he did to the kids and

1:18:21

like, I know

1:18:23

what they did. I know what

1:18:25

your boyfriend did. So clearly, they've

1:18:27

lied to cover their tracks

1:18:31

and so... We've got footage though, although

1:18:34

maybe it died with Paige. Yeah,

1:18:37

and everyone's

1:18:39

freaking out. And

1:18:42

one of the moms, I think

1:18:44

it's Paige's mom is like sobbing

1:18:46

and saying, they're just children. They're

1:18:49

children. And

1:18:51

Jenny is taking this in. She is a

1:18:53

teacher. We've seen that. No.

1:18:57

No. Previously would

1:19:00

have thought to

1:19:03

protect all children, but she...

1:19:07

Now knows better. Now knows better. The

1:19:10

dad is hitting Brett now and they're

1:19:12

like, how could you let this happen?

1:19:15

We're seeing some abuse. Oh, man. Abuse

1:19:17

happening there. Brett's

1:19:19

dad is saying like, we

1:19:22

can't call the cops. Like

1:19:25

we have to deal with this ourselves. Otherwise

1:19:28

our kids are like going to be in

1:19:31

jail or like, we can't let this

1:19:33

get out. Jenny's screaming like,

1:19:35

what are you talking about? Like call the police, call

1:19:37

the police. Brett's

1:19:39

dad says, Brett, go upstairs. Close

1:19:43

the door. As

1:19:45

he like grabs Jenny, Jenny swipes

1:19:47

her little straight razor, like slices

1:19:49

his arm and falls to the

1:19:51

ground. I'm like, Jenny. Oh

1:19:53

my God. No more

1:19:55

weapons as she is being

1:19:57

pulled back into the bathroom. We just hear

1:19:59

screams. And now we're following Brett as

1:20:02

he walks into his room

1:20:05

closes the door. We hear

1:20:07

screaming, screaming. He pulls out

1:20:09

the phone, deletes all the videos,

1:20:12

delete, delete, delete, delete, pulls

1:20:15

out the Steve sunglasses

1:20:17

that he stole, puts

1:20:20

them on, looks at himself in the mirror with this

1:20:22

kind of blank expression.

1:20:25

That's the end of the movie. Oh

1:20:28

my fucking God.

1:20:33

I hated it. I hated it. You're

1:20:35

right. I'm in a cold sweat

1:20:37

right now. Just a cold sweat. That's a

1:20:39

really interesting ending though because it does make

1:20:42

him seem like a child. Yeah, it

1:20:45

does. It really does. Like, and that of

1:20:47

course he comes from an abusive home because

1:20:49

a child wouldn't do that if they didn't,

1:20:52

but it's also like he made

1:20:56

children stab a man

1:20:59

and he also lit people on fire. So

1:21:02

he's really unforgivable

1:21:05

shit. But

1:21:07

at the end of the day, he's just a

1:21:09

kid who like wanted sunglasses and got way out

1:21:11

of hand because you're stupid

1:21:13

because you're so fucking stupid when you're a

1:21:15

teen. That's what I really

1:21:17

like about this movie is just like

1:21:20

a situation

1:21:22

just escalating and escalating and escalating

1:21:24

feels so possible. Like this is,

1:21:26

I like a horror movie that

1:21:28

is possible. Like

1:21:30

yeah, this could happen. And

1:21:32

like moment to moment, these, you know,

1:21:35

teens make really stupid decisions all

1:21:37

the time without realizing mistakes. And if they like keep

1:21:39

getting put in higher and higher stakes situations, then all

1:21:41

they're trying to do is like get moment to moment

1:21:43

because that's the only thing teenagers can do is like

1:21:45

think about like, well, what are

1:21:48

you right now? Yeah. You would

1:21:50

just like keep like that feeling of like, we're in it

1:21:52

now. You have to, we have to kill them. Like we

1:21:54

have to kill them or something else to do because you're

1:21:56

too stupid to realize like you could actually just not kill

1:21:58

them. Yes. And it would be a lot better. than if

1:22:00

you continue to move forward and kill them? Yeah,

1:22:03

I remember when I was

1:22:05

in high school having

1:22:08

this escalating situation, not

1:22:10

to this degree obviously. Thank God.

1:22:13

But it was me and a friend and we

1:22:15

were playing a game

1:22:19

where it was like a variation of hide

1:22:21

and seek, I guess. And

1:22:24

somehow it ended

1:22:26

with one

1:22:28

of us, I think she

1:22:31

locked me outside and then

1:22:33

it just got like mean and

1:22:36

she wouldn't let me back in and we were like seeing

1:22:38

each other through the sliding door.

1:22:42

And I saw

1:22:44

that her stuff was outside where

1:22:47

I was and my stuff was

1:22:49

inside where she was. And

1:22:51

so we just started fucking ruining each other's

1:22:53

shit. I grabbed her textbooks

1:22:55

and was ripping pages out of her

1:22:57

textbooks and ripping her backpack and

1:23:00

she was ripping all of my shit and

1:23:02

we're both sobbing and I

1:23:05

just escalated to this horrible

1:23:07

level that ended with me calling my mom

1:23:09

and being like, yes, I want to come

1:23:12

home, I want to be ruined. Yeah,

1:23:14

the fact that you wouldn't have thought to call

1:23:16

your mom before you guys started ruining

1:23:18

each other's stuff like kind of the point

1:23:21

that it. Yeah. And when

1:23:24

you're a teenager, you're like, you are a

1:23:27

hormone monster. You truly are. You're

1:23:29

like you don't you have no lived experience.

1:23:32

You are fully just

1:23:34

emotion and like physical

1:23:36

discomfort. Yep. And that

1:23:38

is the only thing driving you. Oh,

1:23:43

God, how fucking scary. That

1:23:50

said, I did I did enjoy this movie.

1:23:52

I will say that it was

1:23:54

surprising for sure. I did

1:23:56

not see that ending

1:23:58

coming. Yeah. But it is

1:24:00

surprising. I kind of did see the ending coming

1:24:03

only because I had heard that this movie is

1:24:05

like feel bad, bad, bad. So I was

1:24:07

like, well, it's not gonna have a, we're not gonna have a

1:24:09

happy ending here. And

1:24:12

but I will say that as

1:24:14

far as the broken Britain messaging

1:24:18

here, I feel like

1:24:20

this is not really the... Like

1:24:22

maybe a little problematic. Yeah. Like I

1:24:24

feel like it just is heaping on

1:24:26

this demonization of like, yeah, they are

1:24:28

this working, we should feel this way.

1:24:31

Look at them. Right. They'll

1:24:33

fucking kill you in the woods. Yeah. Like

1:24:35

working class people as like dangerous to violence.

1:24:39

More movies like funny games where it's the rich people who

1:24:41

are. I

1:24:44

take it back. I don't want it. I don't want

1:24:46

more. So as far as like broken Britain

1:24:48

themed horror movies, attack the block did it

1:24:50

better. Attack the block did it better. God,

1:24:53

I can't wait for attack the block too.

1:24:56

Holy shit. I know I

1:24:58

want it. So

1:25:02

that's even like... Yeah.

1:25:04

I mean, this is not

1:25:07

fun. No, no, no. Feel

1:25:09

bad for sure. Feel bad for sure.

1:25:12

And yeah, kind of a weird one to

1:25:14

pair with the announcement of the troubled teen

1:25:16

docu-series that I know. I know. I

1:25:19

know it is actually. I was thinking about that. Well,

1:25:21

I mean, I think I actually think it does sort of

1:25:23

tie in because it feels like what the ending of this

1:25:25

movie lets us know is how vulnerable teenagers are. Because

1:25:28

it is such a volatile

1:25:31

time in life

1:25:34

for everybody. I hated being a

1:25:37

teenager. I was awful. I was...

1:25:40

Oh, it was a really dark time. And

1:25:44

the answer is not to abuse

1:25:46

your kids, obviously. The answer is not

1:25:48

to send your kids away. Don't lock

1:25:51

them away. It's this deeply, deeply vulnerable

1:25:53

time because you are the brain of

1:25:55

a child, but all of a sudden

1:25:57

you're becoming an adult. You're treated... by

1:26:01

the outside world as an adult in many ways,

1:26:03

you like want

1:26:05

to fuck people and that

1:26:08

you're not like not ready for that. It's

1:26:10

like yeah it's so precarious the fact that

1:26:12

like any of us survive that we all

1:26:14

have to if you're gonna become an

1:26:16

adult and you

1:26:18

can see how easy it is for shit

1:26:21

to go like really wrong and we need

1:26:23

as scary as scenes are we

1:26:25

gotta do it we gotta do a

1:26:28

better job with them so that they'll

1:26:30

be less scary. Yeah. Yeah

1:26:32

at the end of the day

1:26:35

it's the the adults responsibility to

1:26:37

be the good you

1:26:39

know set a good

1:26:42

standard for the teens and

1:26:44

you can't just obviously nothing

1:26:46

good happens when teens are in the

1:26:48

woods so let's not just woods I

1:26:50

think importantly. I

1:26:53

was talking to my friend that has a teenage

1:26:56

daughter come almost two teenage daughters one

1:26:59

of them's 12 one of them's

1:27:04

15 and it's been a tough time for

1:27:06

him and he said

1:27:08

some advice that he got you

1:27:10

have to accept that

1:27:12

that's part of it I mean I I guess

1:27:14

I won't pretend to know how to raise a teenager

1:27:16

it sounds extremely hard but oh

1:27:19

my god I just got I started like

1:27:21

hyperventilating I don't have children and I just

1:27:23

was like oh god oh no oh god

1:27:25

how do you do it? Henley

1:27:28

are you okay? I feel like I'm

1:27:30

just gonna be in denial that it'll happen to

1:27:32

me until it happens you know what I mean

1:27:34

like I'm gonna be like you know

1:27:36

that many more years maybe it'll maybe

1:27:38

it'll be okay and then obviously it won't

1:27:40

be but um yeah I

1:27:42

think that also just putting yourself in situations

1:27:45

where you can communicate without looking at each

1:27:47

other so like driving

1:27:49

walking doing any

1:27:52

kind of activities where you're like be

1:27:54

willing to embarrass them I think by

1:27:56

like giving them educational books about like

1:27:59

I had this book that my parents gave me about

1:28:01

bodies that I was like, oh, don't you shut

1:28:03

up? But I would read that book all

1:28:06

the time. That's so funny.

1:28:08

But yeah, just being like,

1:28:11

you got to embarrass them a little bit for

1:28:13

their benefit. And somehow just

1:28:16

not take anything personally. Never

1:28:18

take it personally. That's an

1:28:20

important one. That is hard.

1:28:22

That is hard. They're going

1:28:24

to really mean stuff. They are

1:28:26

so mean. They

1:28:29

are so mean. And I want

1:28:31

to convince them. Most importantly, just

1:28:33

simply never tell them to turn their music down.

1:28:35

It is. Never tell them to turn their music down. We

1:28:38

are joking, but also kind of not. It isn't worth it.

1:28:40

Just let them play their music really loud. Let them play

1:28:42

their music. Let them have it. It's

1:28:45

a hard time. And you

1:28:48

just let them play their music too loud. Yep.

1:28:52

Holy moly. I have

1:28:54

a lot to think about. I have a lot.

1:28:56

We've learned an important lesson here today. Wow.

1:29:01

Teens are scary, but they

1:29:03

are children. And they are going to play their music

1:29:05

at the volume they want. It's

1:29:08

the least we can do for them. Yeah.

1:29:12

Yep. Yep. OK.

1:29:15

And I can't believe I forgot to tell you

1:29:17

guys something really important, which is that James

1:29:19

Watkins, the director of this movie, is

1:29:22

going to be directing the Speak No

1:29:25

Evil movie. Oh my

1:29:27

god. They were doing that man. So

1:29:30

this guy likes to feel bad, huh?

1:29:32

He really likes to have a very bad time.

1:29:36

He's good at making us feel bad. I hate him.

1:29:38

That's why we love him. I mean, I guess. Know

1:29:41

your strengths, you know? Mm-hmm.

1:29:45

I knew that I shouldn't have been too

1:29:47

excited about there being so many tongues in

1:29:49

this movie. He

1:29:52

was like, there might be tongues now, but

1:29:54

later you just wait, bitch. They're

1:29:57

going. That was the biggest note after doing this

1:29:59

movie was like. Like wait a minute, get rid of the

1:30:01

tongues. I stabbed inside

1:30:03

a mouth but the tongue stayed put.

1:30:05

That's true. The tongue remained. That was

1:30:07

a mistake. I... Where I

1:30:09

have to do it again, I would take that tongue. Oh

1:30:13

my God. I'm very curious about

1:30:15

the remake because the cast is

1:30:17

very good but also American

1:30:20

remakes tend to be under-happening. Is

1:30:22

it like in production? Yes, it's strange to us. It's

1:30:27

supposed to come out this year. Oh

1:30:29

my God. Remind us of the cast of them? James

1:30:31

McAvoy, Mackenzie Davis and Scoot

1:30:33

McNary. Whoa,

1:30:36

alright. So okay,

1:30:38

that is interesting. But I feel like

1:30:40

because Speak No Evil has such a...

1:30:43

There's a significant part of

1:30:45

the plot is their language

1:30:49

barrier and cultural

1:30:51

differences and these are

1:30:54

all... Yeah. For

1:30:56

it is. You know, it's gonna be all English speaking.

1:30:59

So I hope that they are at least

1:31:02

have some culture differences like one

1:31:04

of the families is from Canada

1:31:06

or British or something because

1:31:10

I feel like that's... A

1:31:12

huge part of it is that they're like... That part of

1:31:14

it. They're like, oh, they're just different from us because... Well,

1:31:16

I mean, I guess... Right.

1:31:18

They have to be like, oh, they do things differently

1:31:21

in Canada which they

1:31:24

do. Sure, but they do. They do. They're

1:31:27

not that differently. All I gotta

1:31:29

say is, I don't wanna sit through that shit

1:31:31

again. I know...

1:31:34

No, we're not doing it. We will not be

1:31:36

doing it. That's funny because it's like, I feel

1:31:38

like I want to do it but it's also gonna

1:31:40

be the same movie again. Same

1:31:42

movie. I mean, you can see it. Maybe we can

1:31:44

do a little mini... I can tell you the

1:31:47

differences. You can do a mini-tote. Well, you

1:31:49

can watch it. Yeah. You can say whether it's worth

1:31:51

doing. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

1:31:54

And if it's worth doing, I'll fucking do it. I'll do

1:31:56

it, you guys. Oh my god. Hey, Lee. If

1:31:58

they change... like change a

1:32:01

lot of stuff then. Yeah, they

1:32:03

cut out more tongues. We'll have

1:32:05

to do it. Yeah. More tongues,

1:32:07

more stonings, like, yeah, let's, in

1:32:09

that case, let's do it. Man.

1:32:14

So yeah, we have that

1:32:17

to look forward to. Yeah. So

1:32:20

much. Wow. OK, huge news. Hate

1:32:23

to see it. What are you going to do? I'm

1:32:27

going to try to forget about all of this instantly.

1:32:29

Me too. Same, same, same, same. The rest of the

1:32:31

day. Gone. Poof. Even like never heard

1:32:33

of it. Wowzer.

1:32:38

All right. Well, we

1:32:42

have an accent to do here. Yeah.

1:32:44

Bruv. Bruv. Bruv.

1:32:46

From all of us here at Too Scary didn't

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watch bruv. Bruv. Bruv. Ay,

1:32:52

goodbye. Goodbye, bruv. Cheers. Cheers, bruv. Cheers.

1:32:54

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1:32:58

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