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Reversing the Transgender Wave: Protecting NCAA Women's Sports | Charlie Kirk with Riley Gaines

Reversing the Transgender Wave: Protecting NCAA Women's Sports | Charlie Kirk with Riley Gaines

Released Thursday, 30th March 2023
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Reversing the Transgender Wave: Protecting NCAA Women's Sports | Charlie Kirk with Riley Gaines

Reversing the Transgender Wave: Protecting NCAA Women's Sports | Charlie Kirk with Riley Gaines

Reversing the Transgender Wave: Protecting NCAA Women's Sports | Charlie Kirk with Riley Gaines

Reversing the Transgender Wave: Protecting NCAA Women's Sports | Charlie Kirk with Riley Gaines

Thursday, 30th March 2023
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Why are the women at ESPN putting up with this? I don't

0:17

know, Riley, your thoughts. I have no

0:19

idea why the women are putting up with this.

0:21

I don't understand. It's like they don't

0:24

see the irony of celebrating a

0:26

man during national

0:28

women's history. How are these women

0:30

okay with it? And it begs the question, where are the feminists?

0:33

Where are the women? Where's the

0:35

group who wore the pink hats, who

0:38

wanted to empower women, real women?

0:41

I can't

0:41

even answer that. I will say, though,

0:43

that I just admire Sate

0:46

Scheele, who's an ESPN reporter. She

0:48

does SportsCenter, I believe. And she stood

0:51

up to this, and she said, this is wild, this is wrong. She

0:53

recognizes the differences between men and women,

0:57

and why it's unfair and harmful for women

0:59

to have men in women's sports and in our locker

1:01

rooms. I want to read your tweet. You said

1:03

Leah Thomas is not a brave, courageous woman

1:06

who earned a national title. He is an

1:08

arrogant cheat, a man who stole

1:11

a national title from a hardworking,

1:13

deserving woman. The NCAA is responsible.

1:15

If I was a woman working at ESPN,

1:18

I would walk out your spineless. Elaborate

1:20

more. Well,

1:23

a lot of people obviously even ESPN

1:26

as we've seen universities large organizations

1:29

the media They like to deem Thomas

1:31

as a courageous brave woman

1:35

How one is

1:36

Lee Thomas courageous or brave? I think

1:39

the Thomas is a coward Yeah, I think later

1:41

is selfish and showed

1:43

utter disregard towards women towards

1:45

our privacy towards our safety towards our

1:48

feelings our fairness, our opportunities,

1:50

there was no regard for that. Yet

1:53

they expect us to to be kind to them

1:55

and be respectful to them. to me, respect

1:57

is something that's earned.

2:00

Leah Thomas did not earn my respect

2:02

by any means. And so I wanted to add

2:04

the piece in there about the NCAA being responsible

2:06

because, you know, and

2:09

I do think Leah Thomas is selfish. I think Leah Thomas,

2:12

like I mentioned, had no regard for us as

2:14

female athletes, but it's not Thomas'

2:16

fault. Thomas was following the guidelines

2:18

that the NCAA put in place. And so I

2:21

think it's crucial to acknowledge that the NCAA

2:23

is at fault here. Leah Thomas

2:25

was simply following the rules that allowed

2:28

this to happen, which were 100% perpetrated

2:30

by the NCAA, they forced us to participate in Leah

2:35

Thomas's fetish, which included,

2:38

it has now come out that Leah Thomas is an AGP,

2:40

which means you are sexually aroused by dressing as

2:42

a woman. And the NCAA put us in a locker

2:44

room with someone who gets off on that. So

2:47

the NCAA is responsible and I wanted to put

2:49

that

2:50

point in there.

2:51

And ESPN is celebrating that.

2:54

What constituency are they trying to

2:57

pander to? It's really bizarre.

2:59

And I mean, Disney is already letting

3:02

off a lot of employees

3:03

right now. And

3:05

so, Riley, I'm

3:08

wondering just kind of the response you're receiving

3:11

and what do your critics say? I'm

3:14

very curious

3:15

because this should be very simple

3:18

and very elemental. I mean, you should

3:21

have been a national champion in swimming

3:24

and a man comes in and steals

3:26

it from you. He exposes

3:28

himself to you in a locker room. He

3:30

should have been arrested for that, right, for

3:32

public indecent exposure. That

3:35

we used to have a country that used to exist. Last time we had a

3:37

dialogue, I said people would take care of it. would

3:39

take care of it. That's exactly what I meant, is that

3:42

you would be arrested for exposing yourself. You

3:44

just kind of walk into a woman's locker room and expose

3:46

yourself. That used to be called a crime,

3:49

now it's called progress. But

3:51

I'm curious, what is the response that

3:54

you receive from

3:56

people? What do your critics say?

4:00

I'm talking about

4:02

support from all over the political spectrum,

4:04

which is what makes this topic, this issue,

4:06

so interesting. Obviously, we know there

4:08

are very few things in politics that people can agree

4:10

on. But this is something,

4:13

you know, denying man and woman, we can't even define what

4:15

a woman is. These liberals who,

4:18

of course, will die on this hill of

4:21

being able to define a woman, they see

4:23

what's at stake here. They see how they're

4:25

trying to eradicate women at the

4:27

systemic level. And so I have

4:29

had an overwhelming amount of support from

4:31

female athletes, from parents, from

4:33

medical professionals, from coaches, people

4:36

within the NCAA. There's so

4:38

much support, which shows me that we are

4:40

the overwhelming majority in

4:43

this topic, which begs the question,

4:45

okay, then why are we catering

4:47

to the minority? minority. Why are we

4:50

sacrificing 51% of the population

4:52

at the expense of half

4:55

a percent of the population? I don't know the exact statistic,

4:58

but I can't imagine the trans community makes up more

5:00

than half a percent of the population. So

5:02

why are we catering to this? And it's because

5:04

that we thought this would

5:06

be a one-off instance. But

5:08

people are realizing it's not and they see the propaganda

5:10

being pushed and they're becoming more bold, they're

5:13

becoming louder, and they're starting to use

5:15

their voices more and I really truthfully believe

5:17

that the tides are about

5:18

to turn. I sure

5:21

hope so. I mean, I'll be honest, I don't see

5:23

the backlash that you see, but you're kind of more

5:25

in it than I am. And

5:29

so

5:29

it's very interesting. I want to explore this and we have you

5:32

for another topic. If you listen to Thomas, the

5:34

narcissistic cheats profile there

5:36

on ESPN, he said, I didn't

5:39

do this to win. I did this

5:41

to be happy.

5:43

And that's really interesting

5:46

because since when do we re-accommodate society

5:48

for your own personal happiness?

5:51

I'm sure a lot of people would be happier if they could go rob

5:53

a bank,

5:54

but it would be theft. It

5:56

would be wrong. I'm

5:58

sure some people would be ha- happier

6:00

if you could walk into women's locker rooms

6:02

and be like a weird creep,

6:04

but it would be wrong.

6:07

But unfortunately, post 1960s

6:09

liberalism and leftism and the postmodern construct

6:11

is your individual happiness matters

6:13

more than societal norms,

6:15

things that govern fairness. Their

6:18

idea of justice is their own

6:21

individual,

6:22

their own individual, quote unquote, pleasure or happiness.

6:24

30 seconds, Riley.

6:26

I think it's incredibly ironic that Thomas

6:28

says that he does this for happiness

6:31

because playing a Division I sport,

6:33

especially at the national level where you're competing

6:35

for that top spot in the country, never

6:39

once did swimming ask me if I was happy. Do

6:41

you feel okay? Do you want to jump in the cold

6:43

water at 4am? Playing a Division

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I sport is a privilege. It is not

6:48

a right. It does not go to someone who just

6:50

wants to do it to be happy. You have to work.

6:53

You have to earn that spot. And Thomas did not. No,

6:56

cheated and stole. Stay right there, Riley. Riley,

6:59

I want to talk about the other examples of

7:01

men

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that are stealing championships right now.

7:04

It's happening across the country and

7:06

our society is letting it happen. And

7:09

our men

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who have basically become

7:12

feminized versions of an infant just kind

7:14

of sit and like, well, I guess that's unfair.

7:17

So Riley, I really

7:19

enjoy your Twitter feed because you update

7:22

the world and me on how men

7:24

are continually cheating and stealing

7:27

championships from women. There was one recently,

7:29

there was a track championship. Can

7:31

you tell us about that? It was a state championship, I

7:33

believe.

7:34

Yes. This was the state track and field

7:36

championships in Massachusetts. I'm

7:39

sure you saw the picture on my Twitter, which I

7:41

wish

7:42

it show it on here, but

7:43

I'll get it. I'll do my best to get it. Keep

7:45

going though. But

7:48

this is a male who

7:50

competed as a male and finished at

7:52

the bottom every single time, who

7:54

has now transitioned to a woman and

7:57

helped his team win the state

7:59

track and field champion. Um, his

8:01

name is Chloe Barnes. When,

8:03

um, he was doing an interview and

8:05

when the interviewer asks him, you know, what do you have to say

8:07

about the people who

8:09

are in opposition of you competing, Chloe says, just

8:11

deal with it. Deal

8:13

with it. Which is exactly why

8:16

I consider Leah Thomas also a narcissist.

8:19

These people want the world to stop for their

8:22

own benefit and not thinking about

8:24

anyone else's feelings. Anyone else's safety. safety,

8:26

anyone else's fairness,

8:29

their privacy, and definitely not

8:31

the integrity of sports.

8:33

You look at psychology, women tend to be more

8:35

agreeable and men tend to be disagreeable.

8:38

So I look at these pictures

8:39

of these young ladies that are taking

8:41

pictures with these cheats afterwards.

8:44

And it's just not up to, I mean, they just are less

8:46

likely to say there's anything wrong with it. But

8:48

honestly, what should have happened

8:50

is the cheat should have just ran and everyone

8:52

else should have just

8:53

had their, just boycotted. It just sat

8:56

down, would have made nationwide

8:58

headlines. Why is it that women are

9:00

so, I mean, again, it's not

9:02

a fair question. It just really bothers me because

9:05

it's not as if angry women is anything we're new

9:07

to, right? I mean, angry women

9:09

come to my events all the time. They scream at conservatives,

9:11

they scream at their husbands, they scream at Donald Trump. Why

9:14

are women not angry at men stealing their

9:16

championships? It's

9:17

virtue signaling. These people, they

9:20

want to be seen as kind. They want

9:22

to be seen as inclusive. want to be

9:24

seen as welcoming and accepting and tolerant

9:27

and all of those things, but they just

9:29

haven't realized yet, it is not

9:32

kind to allow a man into

9:34

a woman's space. It is not kind

9:37

for me, a 22 year old, to

9:39

turn around and see another 22 year

9:41

old, draw his pants fully

9:43

exposed with male genitalia, watching other

9:46

women undress. That is not kind. That

9:48

is not inclusive. It's actually exclusive.

9:51

exclusive to the very people that the women's

9:53

sporting category was created

9:55

to protect. And I

9:57

think it's just a matter of time before people.

10:00

realize that and like I said, I believe

10:02

more and more people are. Um,

10:04

but no one wants to ruffle feathers. No one wants

10:06

to step on toes, but you're exactly right. That's

10:08

how changes are going to be made. Of course,

10:11

of course,

10:13

legislature is an amazing way to start. Um,

10:16

these, these different states that are passing these

10:18

bills. That's fantastic. But the easiest

10:21

way to make impact is to not

10:23

race, not run, not get on that starting

10:25

block, but that's a big ask. And

10:28

I understand that, but we have to be

10:30

willing to make sacrifices.

10:32

Yeah, I mean, it's sacrifices, but it's also

10:34

just why would you want to participate against a cheater?

10:37

And so is the NCAA a common, are they just continuing

10:40

in this direction

10:41

where, where men can basically steal

10:43

championships from women? Is that the new position

10:45

at the NCAA? Yeah, that

10:47

is, that's exactly what's happening. The NCAA

10:50

claims there are only 34 trans athletes

10:52

in the NCAA, but that could not

10:54

be further from the truth.

10:56

There are so many athletes, I actually just

10:58

watched a diving championship, a

11:00

conference championship where a male was diving against

11:03

all women. I know of about 10 lacrosse

11:06

men who are playing on the women's team off the top of my

11:08

head. But the NCAA, they're essentially

11:10

in a phasing out approach. What they want

11:13

is they want no accountability. They don't

11:15

want to deal with it. They don't want to be the ones

11:17

responsible for anything. So what they're

11:19

trying to do is phase out and leave it up to sports

11:21

specific organizations like World

11:23

Athletics who has just now said that

11:27

if you've gone through puberty as a male, you will not

11:29

compete with the women. So they're looking to phase

11:31

out the NCAA's.

11:33

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