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Why are the women at ESPN putting up with this? I don't
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know, Riley, your thoughts. I have no
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idea why the women are putting up with this.
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I don't understand. It's like they don't
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see the irony of celebrating a
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man during national
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women's history. How are these women
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okay with it? And it begs the question, where are the feminists?
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Where are the women? Where's the
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group who wore the pink hats, who
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wanted to empower women, real women?
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I can't
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even answer that. I will say, though,
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that I just admire Sate
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Scheele, who's an ESPN reporter. She
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does SportsCenter, I believe. And she stood
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up to this, and she said, this is wild, this is wrong. She
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recognizes the differences between men and women,
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and why it's unfair and harmful for women
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to have men in women's sports and in our locker
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rooms. I want to read your tweet. You said
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Leah Thomas is not a brave, courageous woman
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who earned a national title. He is an
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arrogant cheat, a man who stole
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a national title from a hardworking,
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deserving woman. The NCAA is responsible.
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If I was a woman working at ESPN,
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I would walk out your spineless. Elaborate
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more. Well,
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a lot of people obviously even ESPN
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as we've seen universities large organizations
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the media They like to deem Thomas
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as a courageous brave woman
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How one is
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Lee Thomas courageous or brave? I think
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the Thomas is a coward Yeah, I think later
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is selfish and showed
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utter disregard towards women towards
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our privacy towards our safety towards our
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feelings our fairness, our opportunities,
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there was no regard for that. Yet
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they expect us to to be kind to them
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and be respectful to them. to me, respect
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is something that's earned.
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Leah Thomas did not earn my respect
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by any means. And so I wanted to add
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the piece in there about the NCAA being responsible
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because, you know, and
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I do think Leah Thomas is selfish. I think Leah Thomas,
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like I mentioned, had no regard for us as
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female athletes, but it's not Thomas'
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fault. Thomas was following the guidelines
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that the NCAA put in place. And so I
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think it's crucial to acknowledge that the NCAA
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is at fault here. Leah Thomas
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was simply following the rules that allowed
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this to happen, which were 100% perpetrated
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by the NCAA, they forced us to participate in Leah
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Thomas's fetish, which included,
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it has now come out that Leah Thomas is an AGP,
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which means you are sexually aroused by dressing as
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a woman. And the NCAA put us in a locker
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room with someone who gets off on that. So
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the NCAA is responsible and I wanted to put
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that
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point in there.
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And ESPN is celebrating that.
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What constituency are they trying to
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pander to? It's really bizarre.
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And I mean, Disney is already letting
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off a lot of employees
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right now. And
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so, Riley, I'm
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wondering just kind of the response you're receiving
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and what do your critics say? I'm
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very curious
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because this should be very simple
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and very elemental. I mean, you should
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have been a national champion in swimming
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and a man comes in and steals
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it from you. He exposes
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himself to you in a locker room. He
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should have been arrested for that, right, for
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public indecent exposure. That
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we used to have a country that used to exist. Last time we had a
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dialogue, I said people would take care of it. would
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take care of it. That's exactly what I meant, is that
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you would be arrested for exposing yourself. You
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just kind of walk into a woman's locker room and expose
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yourself. That used to be called a crime,
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now it's called progress. But
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I'm curious, what is the response that
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you receive from
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people? What do your critics say?
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I'm talking about
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support from all over the political spectrum,
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which is what makes this topic, this issue,
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so interesting. Obviously, we know there
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are very few things in politics that people can agree
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on. But this is something,
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you know, denying man and woman, we can't even define what
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a woman is. These liberals who,
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of course, will die on this hill of
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being able to define a woman, they see
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what's at stake here. They see how they're
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trying to eradicate women at the
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systemic level. And so I have
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had an overwhelming amount of support from
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female athletes, from parents, from
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medical professionals, from coaches, people
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within the NCAA. There's so
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much support, which shows me that we are
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the overwhelming majority in
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this topic, which begs the question,
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okay, then why are we catering
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to the minority? minority. Why are we
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sacrificing 51% of the population
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at the expense of half
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a percent of the population? I don't know the exact statistic,
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but I can't imagine the trans community makes up more
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than half a percent of the population. So
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why are we catering to this? And it's because
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that we thought this would
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be a one-off instance. But
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people are realizing it's not and they see the propaganda
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being pushed and they're becoming more bold, they're
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becoming louder, and they're starting to use
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their voices more and I really truthfully believe
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that the tides are about
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to turn. I sure
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hope so. I mean, I'll be honest, I don't see
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the backlash that you see, but you're kind of more
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in it than I am. And
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so
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it's very interesting. I want to explore this and we have you
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for another topic. If you listen to Thomas, the
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narcissistic cheats profile there
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on ESPN, he said, I didn't
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do this to win. I did this
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to be happy.
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And that's really interesting
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because since when do we re-accommodate society
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for your own personal happiness?
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I'm sure a lot of people would be happier if they could go rob
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a bank,
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but it would be theft. It
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would be wrong. I'm
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sure some people would be ha- happier
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if you could walk into women's locker rooms
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and be like a weird creep,
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but it would be wrong.
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But unfortunately, post 1960s
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liberalism and leftism and the postmodern construct
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is your individual happiness matters
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more than societal norms,
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things that govern fairness. Their
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idea of justice is their own
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individual,
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their own individual, quote unquote, pleasure or happiness.
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30 seconds, Riley.
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I think it's incredibly ironic that Thomas
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says that he does this for happiness
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because playing a Division I sport,
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especially at the national level where you're competing
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for that top spot in the country, never
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once did swimming ask me if I was happy. Do
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you feel okay? Do you want to jump in the cold
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water at 4am? Playing a Division
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I sport is a privilege. It is not
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a right. It does not go to someone who just
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wants to do it to be happy. You have to work.
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You have to earn that spot. And Thomas did not. No,
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cheated and stole. Stay right there, Riley. Riley,
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I want to talk about the other examples of
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men
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that are stealing championships right now.
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It's happening across the country and
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our society is letting it happen. And
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our men
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who have basically become
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feminized versions of an infant just kind
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of sit and like, well, I guess that's unfair.
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So Riley, I really
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enjoy your Twitter feed because you update
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the world and me on how men
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are continually cheating and stealing
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championships from women. There was one recently,
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there was a track championship. Can
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you tell us about that? It was a state championship, I
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believe.
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Yes. This was the state track and field
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championships in Massachusetts. I'm
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sure you saw the picture on my Twitter, which I
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wish
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it show it on here, but
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I'll get it. I'll do my best to get it. Keep
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going though. But
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this is a male who
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competed as a male and finished at
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the bottom every single time, who
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has now transitioned to a woman and
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helped his team win the state
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track and field champion. Um, his
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name is Chloe Barnes. When,
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um, he was doing an interview and
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when the interviewer asks him, you know, what do you have to say
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about the people who
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are in opposition of you competing, Chloe says, just
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deal with it. Deal
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with it. Which is exactly why
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I consider Leah Thomas also a narcissist.
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These people want the world to stop for their
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own benefit and not thinking about
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anyone else's feelings. Anyone else's safety. safety,
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anyone else's fairness,
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their privacy, and definitely not
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the integrity of sports.
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You look at psychology, women tend to be more
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agreeable and men tend to be disagreeable.
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So I look at these pictures
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of these young ladies that are taking
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pictures with these cheats afterwards.
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And it's just not up to, I mean, they just are less
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likely to say there's anything wrong with it. But
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honestly, what should have happened
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is the cheat should have just ran and everyone
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else should have just
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had their, just boycotted. It just sat
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down, would have made nationwide
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headlines. Why is it that women are
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so, I mean, again, it's not
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a fair question. It just really bothers me because
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it's not as if angry women is anything we're new
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to, right? I mean, angry women
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come to my events all the time. They scream at conservatives,
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they scream at their husbands, they scream at Donald Trump. Why
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are women not angry at men stealing their
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championships? It's
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virtue signaling. These people, they
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want to be seen as kind. They want
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to be seen as inclusive. want to be
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seen as welcoming and accepting and tolerant
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and all of those things, but they just
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haven't realized yet, it is not
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kind to allow a man into
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a woman's space. It is not kind
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for me, a 22 year old, to
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turn around and see another 22 year
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old, draw his pants fully
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exposed with male genitalia, watching other
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women undress. That is not kind. That
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is not inclusive. It's actually exclusive.
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exclusive to the very people that the women's
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sporting category was created
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to protect. And I
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think it's just a matter of time before people.
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realize that and like I said, I believe
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more and more people are. Um,
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but no one wants to ruffle feathers. No one wants
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to step on toes, but you're exactly right. That's
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how changes are going to be made. Of course,
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of course,
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legislature is an amazing way to start. Um,
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these, these different states that are passing these
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bills. That's fantastic. But the easiest
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way to make impact is to not
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race, not run, not get on that starting
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block, but that's a big ask. And
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I understand that, but we have to be
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willing to make sacrifices.
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Yeah, I mean, it's sacrifices, but it's also
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just why would you want to participate against a cheater?
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And so is the NCAA a common, are they just continuing
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in this direction
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where, where men can basically steal
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championships from women? Is that the new position
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at the NCAA? Yeah, that
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is, that's exactly what's happening. The NCAA
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claims there are only 34 trans athletes
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in the NCAA, but that could not
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be further from the truth.
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There are so many athletes, I actually just
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watched a diving championship, a
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conference championship where a male was diving against
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all women. I know of about 10 lacrosse
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men who are playing on the women's team off the top of my
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head. But the NCAA, they're essentially
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in a phasing out approach. What they want
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is they want no accountability. They don't
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want to deal with it. They don't want to be the ones
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responsible for anything. So what they're
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trying to do is phase out and leave it up to sports
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specific organizations like World
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Athletics who has just now said that
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if you've gone through puberty as a male, you will not
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compete with the women. So they're looking to phase
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out the NCAA's.
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