This week's episode we're joined by Matthew Kettle, long time bird trainer at Taronga Zoo in Sydney, AUS! Matthew shares his journey into the industry and what he has gained from different facilities and bird shows across the globe. We chat about starting Taronga Zoo's famous bird show alongside Steve Martin and mishaps that can occur with free flight birds. You can find the podcast on socials @trainertalksandtails or email us for feedback or queries on [email protected].