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Pickaxe. Hello

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everyone, welcome back to the Triforce

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podcast. Today coming at you from

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a Sweden with Perian Flax.

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I'm not in Sweden. He is. I'm

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crippled. I got a trap nerve

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in my neck and it really hurts. Oh

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no. You got to go to the doctor

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straight after this. Yes. Old

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people chat. This is

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what happens now to us. We don't

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understand technology. Perian's got a

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crappy microphone. I need some horse tranks

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or something. I can't sleep. It's insane.

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It's so painful. Like everything is pain.

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Everything. How did this happen? Did you lift

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something heavy? No, I woke up one morning

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after sex. I slept funny. I woke up

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one morning and I had a, you know,

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like a little crick in my neck as

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you do every once in a while. And

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it just progressively got worse and worse and

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worse. And over time it

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has evolved as well. At first it

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just really hurt to sit, like

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sit upright in a chair or like drive

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a car or whatever. It felt like on

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my left side, it felt like

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under my armpit and like the side of my

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torso was like not able to stretch. Like it

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was like really tight. You know, like it felt

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like every time I sat down, like it felt

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like it was going to like rip. It

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was really, really quite painful. But

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so it meant like if I sat at

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my computer to stream or play games or

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whatever, that also hurt. But I

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was able to sleep. No problem. Like I could sleep

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on my back, on my side and it

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was fine. So I got some relief. I'm

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just, I've just stood

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up straight and I've like flexed my neck

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and my back. I'm like really paranoid now

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that. Yeah. And for

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the past, for the past week, it's been

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bearable sitting at a, at a, at a

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desk in a chair. It

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hasn't been so bad driving and stuff.

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But I cannot sleep. I can't

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sleep on my side. I say like the minute

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I roll over on my side I can feel

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my neck and my shoulder like the muscles just

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start to like spasm and then they just it

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just Intensifies this is over the course of like

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a minute to the point where I just have

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to sit up like it feels like I'm Being

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stabbed. It's unbelievable. Oh my god. I can't sleep.

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Well, I don't know I

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want them to cut it off or

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fucking I have to kill him. Just

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just Out back

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and old yeller my ass or something. I

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don't know I'm done. It's too painful. You

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must have googled it, right? Yeah,

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and it's like, oh these instant

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relief do these stretches do that

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great. Yeah. Thanks. None of it has

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worked I've tried every single one and

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not a single one of them has

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worked these videos have like millions of

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you Yeah, so you're watching YouTube videos,

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man Yeah, if you wake

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up at 3 in the morning, you feel like

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somebody's stabbing you can't get back to sleep There's

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not much else to do except for what shit,

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you know YouTube videos on what possibly

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could be wrong with you Oh god,

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so yeah So I mean and then

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like you said I've got cancer and

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I've got symptoms of cancer and every

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every known cancer now and Everything

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else to you. That's what happens when you have

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anything wrong with you. Yeah The

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other day the other day I

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was in fact, this was two days ago We're

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getting the cab home because I'm in Sweden for

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dream league right now We're driving back from the

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studio and the guys the car was quite loud

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And I was having a conversation with the guys

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in the back of the cab I had to

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turn around and turn my neck to talk to

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them Yeah, I have my neck turned for about

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30 seconds. I have a little conversation I want

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to go to turn back the muscles in my

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neck. I like Are

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you trying to use us? Yeah, yeah,

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and I had to like stretch my neck

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and my shoulders out Well, I'm just so

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fragile now any kind like I sleep on

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the wrong pillow or I don't

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move Yeah, too enough or I move too much

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when I'm asleep. I wake up. It's like well,

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I think I had I had

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like quite a flimsy pillow because I

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made the mistake of we

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went to get new pillows and I could have

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got like a firm pillow, but then they had

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a not so firm pillow, but it

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was like a cool pillow, you know, like

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a chillo, like, you know, one

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of those ones that's cold. It's like cold, you know,

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like... How did it stay cold? I don't know. But

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it turns out it's not a very

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supportive pillow and I think that's the

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root of the problem, unfortunately. I've changed

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pillows since. But it's never made

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of pillows. Never heard of a chillo? Never

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heard of a chillo. How does it... I

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don't understand. Does it have... is it electric? I think

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the ones in the 90s you had to put in

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the freezer or there was like a part of the

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pillow you put into the freezer for a bit. Like

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a cold pack. Kinda, yeah. But

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I think now they've got some

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crazy space age material that just

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can stay cool for a bit

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longer than normal material or something. I

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don't know. But it

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does actually stay cool. Like when you

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lay down, it does feel quite cold.

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It's nice. As a living. Colder

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than a normal pillow. But... Oh my

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God. It has also crippled

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me. I felt like the oldest

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man at the weekend. I went

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to this Bristol Simple Things Festival.

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Okay. It's basically kind

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of like an inner city festival

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where they've got like three theatre

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venues and some... Like SWX where

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we went and saw Ghostface Killersip.

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Oh yeah. That

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venue. And there's a bunch of

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other little tiny venues as well like the

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Bowling Alley and stuff. The place where we

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saw Ghostface was pretty nice actually. Yeah. Some

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of them were pretty big venues and they had about 50

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or 60 Bristol based or local acts.

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Some of them I guess had come down from further on.

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And they were all... I'd never heard of any of them

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of course because I think modern music was so much. So

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many. So... It's

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so wild and you know... I

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didn't... I gotta say I didn't like

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any of them. I'd love to watch

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like 20 bands and I... I

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didn't like any of them. I'm sorry. I

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even like made like a little challenge for myself where I was

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like, gonna spend 20 minutes at

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each place. Just

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to give it a chance, you know. But

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I found myself leaving like waiting for that 20

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minute mark so often. And I don't know, some

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of the experiences were hard because there were packs

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from people and you're like shoulder to shoulder with

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people. Other places are like, you

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can't even get in the door kind of thing and you're

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like in a queue for an hour. You

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know, other places there's like just lots of

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people making like, it wasn't

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like mosh pits and like lots of people being

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like physically like active and stuff. I mean, it's

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obviously always like that a gig that someone will

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shove past you and you'll get an elbow in

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the in the ribs occasionally. Like it's kind of

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in there. Are you saying that you felt old

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at this gig? Is that what I felt? Oh,

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partly because I felt like I didn't

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like any of the music. No, I felt like I

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felt like my dad saying I don't understand new music.

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I don't get new music. What kind of music was

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it, Lulu? Was it dance music?

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Was it was it indie music? Was it was it

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like pop music? What kind of music was it?

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Okay, so the first act I saw

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was like one woman

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DJ playing like electronic music, like kind

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of trance music, but not without any

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without any like kind of actual melody. Like

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if it was like 90s trance, like Ibiza

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trance, like I'm sure I would have actually

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liked it. But the most

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the main reason she was there was she had

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this incredibly fancy light show going on. And

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it was like a firework display. But like,

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like if I had epilepsy, I would have

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lasted like 15 seconds in the gosh. I

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mean, it was that bad. I was like,

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and this is the 1pm I was

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watching this show. I mean, it was

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like, I'm not ready for like no.

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Yeah, this epilepsy inducing blinding light show.

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Some of the like a theatre at

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1pm. Some of these bands, I think

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like when you when you think back

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to bands in like the say like

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the 80s or the 90s or whatever.

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There were scenes around the music and I'm

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sure there still are scenes around the music,

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but I feel like if you're older, it's

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harder to potentially get into those scenes. You

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know, because they're usually, um, younger

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people are, are part of them, right? Like it's,

8:05

it's, it's almost like part of their every day,

8:07

you know, like, um, like, like

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say you live in California in the eighties and,

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uh, you're part of like the

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punk rock scene back then. It's

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kind of like your life, right? You,

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you, you go to parties with all

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the same people and all the same

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bands play and it's very intimate, right?

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Like these, these aren't big stadium filling

8:27

bands at this point. These are like

8:29

party bands that play for 20 people

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and the same 20 people over and

8:34

over and over. And they're all drinking

8:36

buddies as well. And they also deal

8:38

drugs to each other and, um,

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and whatnot. I see that as part of that scene. You

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know what I mean? It's a, it's a big scene.

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And I think, I think for some

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people it is just the music, you know,

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like some people, for some people it definitely

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is. And a lot of these bands had

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a big following, had a lot of people

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there and were clearly very good at what

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they did. But I wasn't like,

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like wine. I'm not a wine expert. I'm

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also not a whatever their type of music

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is expert. I have

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no fucking idea what the hell you're on. Name

9:09

any of the bands. I don't really want

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to because it's kind of mean. Well,

9:14

okay. I saw this band. It was

9:16

like a, obviously really talented drummer, really

9:18

talented guitarist and their singer. It

9:20

just felt it was like either their boyfriend,

9:23

you know, or their girlfriend or whatever, which

9:25

was just terrible. And it was like, what were they called? I can't,

9:27

I don't want to say. Why? Because

9:30

it's, I don't want to get less. They were called Radiohead. Okay. You

9:33

don't want to say, but they were

9:36

called Radiohead. A little band

9:38

called Radiohead. Well, often you don't remember. I

9:40

mean, you guys can look it up. Can

9:42

you, can you tell us and we'll beep

9:44

it and that way at least we have some idea. Okay. It

9:47

was called. All right. Hold

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on. That's a pretty cool name actually. It

9:51

is a pretty cool day. Yeah. And

9:53

it's a band only has about 250 monthly

9:56

listeners on Spotify. So what you've done is

9:58

more band. Yeah. you've listened

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to a very small and unpopular band

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and they're not very good. Have you

10:04

never been there before? Like where you've

10:06

been to a gig and it's like

10:08

the support act or whatever and it's

10:10

just like these guys aren't very good.

10:12

Like that's just that's nothing new. You're

10:14

seeing this band okay at a point

10:16

in their career if you like as

10:18

a band where if

10:21

you go either way right? Like they're probably just starting

10:23

out or maybe you know they've been doing

10:26

it for a little while but they just

10:28

haven't gotten any real traction if you like

10:31

or whatever. But I mean

10:33

there's tons of huge bands now

10:35

that started like that right? That would

10:37

play gigs, empty gigs

10:40

you know? Of course. Yeah there's bands

10:42

now that can fill stadiums where their

10:44

first gigs were like they had

10:46

no money, they turned up to places and

10:48

just hoped that they could even get a

10:50

gig and would play to nobody or they

10:52

paid played to 10 people who would all

10:54

leave the minute they started playing basically. Yeah,

10:56

they stand up to that as well where

10:58

they start off and they're like buying a

11:01

gas station restaurant as their first gig. I

11:03

mean like they might have 250 monthly

11:05

listens now but who knows maybe in a couple of

11:08

days. It's like Matt Booth take off. You have to

11:10

do 10,000 hours or whatever that's what

11:12

the Beatles did before they got famous you know and I'm sure

11:14

they were terrible if you saw them when they played

11:16

their first gig. But no

11:18

I mean I'm not it's not like I it's

11:20

just I felt like I was I just felt

11:22

like I didn't understand. Yeah no fair enough. It

11:25

is there is an age component

11:27

to it as well for sure. There is definitely I

11:29

think again it like and also everyone

11:31

all these music tracks are trying to be original right?

11:33

They're trying to create something their own right? Yeah. They

11:35

can't just be a ripoff of

11:37

someone else or copy someone else's style and

11:39

as a result they're kind of experimenting with

11:41

something a bit modern and new and some

11:44

elements of modern music I'm not a fan

11:46

of. What like? There's this thing

11:48

that like like well

11:50

a lot of the kind of just the

11:52

some of the noise. My dad. How noisy

11:54

it is. Yeah

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it's just so noisy. I

12:01

mean, my son really likes this

12:03

DJ that I think there's a

12:05

character of the DJ in Fortnite,

12:07

but he doesn't actually like, he

12:09

likes the idea that this DJ

12:12

has a character in Fortnite. I

12:14

don't think he's ever heard any of the music or

12:16

whatever, but he's like, oh yeah, he's my favorite DJ

12:18

and stuff, you know? And

12:20

like most of the music in Fortnite just drives

12:23

me nuts. Like I have to turn the music

12:25

off. The menu music and everything, you

12:27

know, like it's like the

12:29

one that's on now is like some

12:32

anime music or something. And it

12:34

just is just such an assault on my ears. I

12:37

just don't like it. It's

12:40

not for me. Like I get that people love

12:42

it and that's great, but it's not for me.

12:44

And I will never understand how

12:46

anybody could enjoy it, like including my son,

12:48

if he does even enjoy it, I don't

12:50

know. But you know what I mean? Yeah.

12:53

My eldest, my eldest listens to

12:55

music. I don't

12:57

know what style it is. I've been trying to figure

13:00

it out. It's all over Spotify

13:02

and generally the band, someone will know

13:04

someone, someone in the comments will know.

13:08

She listens to music where I would say most

13:10

of the sort of avatars for the bands are

13:12

like cartoon characters, anime characters.

13:14

It's incredibly fast, like

13:17

very high BPM. And

13:19

it's just like intense. It almost sounds

13:21

like you're playing three tracks at once.

13:23

It's like Gorillas, but like sped up.

13:26

No, no, it's way, way more intense

13:28

than that. Like it's no, but like

13:31

the idea of like the little avatars,

13:33

the animate the animated people and I

13:35

guess. Yeah. I mean, it's like,

13:38

it's just like caramel don'ts and type stuff. I

13:41

don't know what that is. Yes,

13:44

like music, very fast meme

13:46

slash video game music. It's

13:49

something core it's called. And she listens to a lot

13:51

of that as well as some good stuff. But this

13:53

is what she was thinking. He has just switched off.

13:55

Okay. So this one band I saw

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was like a mix. So it had a guy. like

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doing grime kind of wrap over

14:02

the top of it. Also had

14:04

like a girl on keyboard doing

14:06

pan pipes. A girl on saxophone.

14:09

And a guy... So it was like he

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described it as like grunge

14:13

grime soul. And

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I was like, this is weird, but

14:18

also kind of good. This

14:22

is like mixing vodka and milk together. Jovian,

14:24

that's the kind of shit... No! No one

14:26

ever did a single boom. But

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then also very few people

14:38

cheered or anything either.

14:40

That's always a good sign I think if you're a fan. One of

14:42

the lyrics I think was Wagwan,

14:45

right? Wagwan. Which means, I don't know

14:47

what it means.

14:49

What's going on? But

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that was kind of very common. Now

14:53

of course, the person next to me who

14:56

I didn't know was singing

14:58

along quite loud, but he wasn't singing Wagwan

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because he didn't know that that was even

15:04

a word. So he's older than me,

15:06

more out of touch than me. He

15:08

was really enjoying it. But I was

15:10

like, does he not understand? I didn't

15:12

want to tell him, Jeremy. Excuse me

15:14

mate, you're ruining my enjoyment of this.

15:16

It's not whatever you're saying, it's Wagwan.

15:18

I never ever told you guys about

15:21

Wesley Willis before.

15:25

The whitest thing I've ever done. Oh my god.

15:27

I've never ever told you about Wesley Willis before?

15:29

Wesley Willis. Wesley Willis.

15:32

Flax, maybe you've heard of

15:34

him. I don't know. Maybe Willis is not.

15:37

He means, Quincy Willis, the weather presenter? No,

15:39

Wesley Willis. Wesley Lawrence. Wesley

15:41

Flipes, the actor from Blade. Okay,

15:43

listen, I'll read a little synopsis

15:45

for you and see if it

15:47

jogs your memory, okay? Okay. As

15:49

an American musician and visual artist

15:51

diagnosed with schizophrenia in 1989, Willis

15:54

began a career as an underground

15:56

singer-songwriter in the outsider music tradition.

15:58

Willis's songs are typically partially

16:00

spoken in an MC style and

16:02

partially sung in a nasal and

16:04

out of tune manner reminiscent of

16:06

punk rock vocals. They feature bizarre,

16:08

humorous, and sometimes obscene or

16:11

absurd lyrics sung over backing

16:13

created by using the auto-accompetiment feature

16:16

of his Technics KN keyboard. His

16:18

songs cover a wide variety of

16:20

topics, with mental illness and consumerism

16:22

being the most prominent themes. He's

16:25

best known for songs like Rock

16:27

and Roll McDonald's and I Whooped

16:29

Batman's Ass. Amazing. I saw him

16:31

live in Ottawa. Me and my friends

16:33

went to see him. He

16:37

gained a large cult following in the

16:39

90s, which is true, because

16:41

we were able to listen to his

16:43

music and download it from

16:45

Napster. This

16:47

is kind of like the start of

16:49

the internet really. So I do remember

16:51

it. It was kind of meme- it

16:53

was a bit meme-y at the time.

16:55

Yeah. But I mean, we didn't really

16:57

have memes the way we do now

16:59

back then. I mean,

17:01

obviously, we all come from something awful.

17:04

And there were definitely sort of in

17:06

jokes, there were the proto memes where

17:08

people would reference certain things. And I

17:11

guess that, you know, Photoshop Friday always

17:13

had certain consistent jokes that were like

17:16

the early version of what we now

17:18

understand as memes. Like, for

17:20

example, now you can just have on

17:22

TikTok a single

17:24

image of a cat or a dog

17:27

just gently nodding its head, put some

17:29

text over it and a particular song

17:31

and that's the meme. Yeah. So it's

17:33

like, it's just a format

17:36

for a joke. Like a

17:38

knock knock joke. Like it's a- but

17:40

rather than just have knock knock jokes

17:42

or doctor doctor, you know, there's a

17:44

steering wheel in my pants and it's

17:46

driving me nuts. Like that's- the

17:48

doctor doctor is the very early version

17:51

of a meme. So yeah, Wesley

17:54

Willis and that, Rock and Roll McDonalds, I

17:56

definitely recognize that. You'd see it referenced on

17:58

something awful. That's

18:01

probably the weirdest live act I've

18:03

ever seen in my life. You

18:05

saw him live? Yes, I did. Wow,

18:07

that's awesome. And when we went

18:09

to see him live, I'll tell you a little story about

18:12

when we went to see him live as well, the

18:15

whole bathroom of the venue, the men's

18:17

bathroom of the venue was

18:19

basically cordoned off. And

18:21

we got there and we got a couple of beers

18:23

and we were having a fun time. Went

18:26

to go to the bathroom. Couldn't get in. We were

18:28

like, what? Is there like a lineup? We

18:30

were talking to some guy and he's like,

18:33

no, no, no, it's Wesley

18:35

Willis. And we're like, what do you mean?

18:37

He's like, he does this everywhere he goes.

18:39

Like before he goes on stage, he takes

18:42

a huge dump and basically clogs

18:44

up like all the pipes in the

18:46

bathroom. Oh my God. Oh my God.

18:48

And it just renders the whole thing unusable

18:50

or it's like a disaster zone in there.

18:53

Good God. And apparently this, that

18:56

was one of his things. I

18:59

don't know if he did it intentionally. I guess he probably

19:01

didn't do it intentionally. That is some kind of power

19:03

move. Oh, I'm sure he didn't give a shit. It is

19:05

a power move. Yeah. So, you know, the

19:08

weirdest band I ever saw, my friend and I were

19:10

really into a band called The Fall. Right.

19:12

This was sort of in the 90s and

19:15

the early noughties. Marky Smith was the frontman.

19:17

They're kind of a, kind of a legendary

19:20

UK band. John Peel was a big fan

19:22

of them. And we

19:24

loved them because Marky Smith was a very

19:26

unusual frontman. The thing looked

19:29

like an alcoholic that would be

19:31

on a park bench, but

19:34

they were great. I mean, they were a really, really

19:36

great band. Anyway, he went through

19:38

members of that band very, very often.

19:40

And a lot of people would sort

19:42

of do gigs or go on to

19:44

have little careers with pretty

19:46

much their sort of, I guess,

19:48

qualifications were I was in the

19:50

fall. Right. So it was like, oh,

19:52

this guy used to be the guitarist for The Fall and now he's

19:55

got his own band. Let's go see him.

19:57

And the thing is about a thousand musicians have probably

19:59

been in the... Marty Smith like

20:01

fires people all the time. Anyway,

20:03

we went to see this guy. And my

20:05

mate was like, this guy was a guitarist

20:07

for the fall, we should go see him. I was like, cool. We

20:10

went there. He had a very odd

20:12

set where he just sort of played

20:15

non music. So one of the things

20:17

he did was he had the band

20:19

going, and then he came out with

20:21

a drill and a violin and just

20:24

ran the power drill over the violin

20:26

strings, making this godawful noise. And

20:29

he would sort of he had this dead

20:31

look on his face like, this is music,

20:33

why aren't you all enjoying this? I sort

20:35

of like, this unbelievable racket, and this dead

20:37

eyed expression, I thought, oh, he's like, almost

20:40

like saying you guys will fucking listen to

20:42

anything, you consumer scum. Like

20:44

that was, I assume the

20:46

button. Okay. And my mate

20:49

looked at me like this is fucking awful. Let's leave. So

20:51

we went to the pub. But it was just that

20:53

that was probably the weirdest set I'd ever been to

20:55

because it was packed and people were just out of

20:57

there like with their heads cocked to the side like,

20:59

yes. And some people were like, what the fuck? It

21:01

was a really weird mix. Yeah. But some people were

21:04

clearly like, this is amazing. It was

21:06

terrible. It was terrible. It's like,

21:09

I do enjoy live music. And I

21:11

would even go as far as to

21:13

say I enjoy live music even if

21:15

I'm not particularly into the band or

21:18

Yeah, for sure. I just like to

21:21

experience live music. I've been tons of

21:23

bands where I really enjoyed the live

21:25

set. And then yeah, same. But there

21:27

are some real damn singers as well.

21:29

Like, yeah, you it's often the other

21:31

way around, isn't it? Like, like you

21:33

hear people with you hear music, and

21:35

then you go and see the people

21:37

live and you're like, wow, this is

21:39

not why. Yeah, definitely. There are some

21:41

bands that can't translate

21:44

their sound to live.

21:46

I met so Fleet Foxes are one

21:48

of my favorite bands. And I

21:51

remember that their music is

21:53

very sort of close harmony.

21:55

It's very, very, very structured.

21:58

And their early live show. It didn't sound

22:00

anything like what they produced on a record

22:02

and I remember big thinking oh man, I

22:05

really wanted to see them lived with subsequent

22:07

years able busy, gotten better but when they

22:09

first.l I don't think. They. Could

22:11

quite get the sound ryanair, but

22:13

there it's ons of bands were

22:15

them. live rendition has that energy

22:17

and that ruinous and it's amazing.

22:19

Me: I mean you listen to

22:21

the record and it's overproduced to

22:23

fuck like just so overproduced that

22:26

it's sox the soul out of

22:28

it. Like the drums a muffled

22:30

but I saw one. ban. Loved

22:32

them. really really love them. Fantastic

22:34

band, but when he saw them

22:36

live there was so loud you

22:38

couldn't hear this home. Like. I

22:40

knew that sounds crazy but the drums. the guy was

22:42

like. Give it's

22:44

hall was so loud A missing was screaming

22:47

so I know the song but I can

22:49

actually hear it over the sound of you

22:51

playing the song. That's how loud it is.

22:54

I don't know how to other White house

22:56

to explain of yeah I saw I saw

22:58

Andrew Wk lives in Africa. Quite a big

23:00

venue but no I was a guy stadium

23:03

it was just me. I was a venue

23:05

and it was insane Like a was so

23:07

loud I was desperate. Like a month after

23:10

the show. He says that's your eardrums

23:12

being being killed. Yes Nostalgia Yeah that

23:14

was a fun show though. like the

23:16

energy levels would just like in outer

23:18

space. It was nuts it. But I

23:20

always want to see Dan Deacon. He

23:22

was a he's apparently his life says

23:25

a pretty legendary yeah but yes who

23:27

Andrew Wk very odd career because I

23:29

sell like a said he's one of

23:31

those acts that he the music journalists

23:33

on the record label or someone was

23:35

like this is gonna be huge and

23:37

treated him and pushed him as if

23:39

he. was gonna be huge and he just

23:42

wasn't math like he his courage is kind

23:44

of i mean what what is andrew wk

23:46

up to now i doing our thing hockey

23:48

hard so other party mine were real and

23:50

a couple of movies i think in that's

23:52

probably probably a weird keep him in his

23:54

and plans are both i'm sure he's okay

23:57

out onto a super weird to me as

23:59

a satellite like who was almost being told

24:01

by the music industry, this guy's massive. But none

24:03

of us really seemed to believe it. We were

24:05

like, is he? Cause I didn't really like his

24:07

stuff. It's like, why is this guy everywhere? It

24:10

was weird. Yeah, it's a weird

24:12

kind of, it's

24:16

a really, really energetic rock,

24:18

isn't it? Like it's fast,

24:20

but like almost exhausting. Kind

24:22

of simplistic, I think. It's

24:25

really weird. You were asking where

24:27

I was, obviously for regular listeners, I do

24:29

sound different. I am in Sweden right now

24:31

doing Dream League for two weeks. I'm out here for

24:33

two weeks. I

24:35

haven't done a two week stint in some time.

24:37

I've normally just been tucking a week in here

24:40

and there. Yeah. But I committed

24:42

this year to being busy. I wanted to be

24:44

busy. You wanna be out there. I wanted to

24:46

be out there. So when they offered me work,

24:48

I took as much as I could. So

24:50

I was just like, you know what? I'm gonna

24:52

do it. I'm going to Birmingham in April. Nice.

24:55

I'm gonna be there for a week. And

24:57

there'll be more dough to coming up later this

24:59

year and stuff. And it's weird. I

25:02

guess that the kids are old enough now that I

25:04

don't feel any kind of, I know what it's like

25:06

looking after them. Like it's not as hard now that

25:08

they're old enough. They make themselves breakfast, they make themselves

25:10

lunch. They can cook dinner if you need them to.

25:14

You know, I mean, my eldest is almost at the

25:16

age where she'll be babysitting for other people. So

25:18

it's like, you know, we don't mind leaving them alone

25:20

for a little bit. And they generally go to their

25:23

rooms when they come home from school. They don't want

25:25

much to do with me anymore anyway. So I was

25:27

like, you know what? Why not squeeze a few more

25:29

drops out of my miserable career and go to the

25:31

dough to events. It's been fun. It's been fun. Good.

25:35

It's the same old crowd. Same old

25:37

crowd. Yeah, it is. Same group.

25:39

Yeah. So I've seen people complain

25:41

about this where they're like, why is it the same

25:43

old faces? And I'd say first

25:45

of all, it is an old game

25:47

at this point. Yeah, I don't think

25:49

it's attracting new players. Like they were

25:51

hoping to at one point. I

25:54

think there was a big push to get new players into

25:56

the game. But I think there's

25:58

just other options now. days aren't there?

26:01

Not even for mobile, but I think

26:03

there's just other way more games now and

26:06

other games that people can get involved in

26:08

and Dota isn't it? Is it the draw

26:10

it used to be? No, it's

26:12

not. I mean, also, I'm not being funny, but in the

26:14

time that you're learning Dota, I don't want to get into

26:16

Dota chat. No, no, it's a slog though. It's a labor

26:19

of love. So

26:22

much. Jesus. So much

26:24

work. I've lost the young, the next generation

26:26

coming through. They are entirely playing Fortnite or

26:28

even CSGO. So maybe Valve don't care. No,

26:31

I mean, equally, you're not going to

26:33

convince 10 million new people to

26:35

put a thousand hours into a game just

26:37

to get some kind of idea of what's

26:39

happened. Like you're just not. Yeah. But I

26:41

mean, I feel like people who give Dota

26:43

a try, it either instantly grabs you or

26:45

you think, oh, I'm just not interested in

26:47

it, which is absolutely it's not even going

26:49

to say it's a Marmite of games. It's

26:51

just it's not like you either love it

26:53

or hate it. It's just it either grabs you and

26:55

you immediately want to put the time in. Yeah. Or

26:58

you just go, I can see this is incredibly dense and

27:00

it's not for me. Like that's how it feels. It's

27:03

got enough in it to grab you in. But I think

27:05

predominantly it it

27:07

grabs people in by pissing them off because

27:10

no, I think it does, though, because I think people play

27:12

it and they're like, there's no way I

27:14

could possibly be this bad at a game.

27:16

What is it about this game? And then

27:18

they invest after that. They're like, yeah, I'm

27:20

going to figure it out. But

27:22

they don't realize that it takes like thousands

27:24

of hours to get thousands of hours to

27:26

get it. So the complaints from

27:28

people were not necessarily about same old faces

27:31

in terms of the pro players because there

27:33

are actually quite a few new pro players

27:35

coming through over the last few years. Yeah.

27:37

The issue was the talent, if you like.

27:39

So people like me. Why why

27:42

is it the same old people? And I

27:44

suppose to answer that, if you're putting together

27:46

a production, the main focus is the games

27:49

where people want to watch the games, the stuff

27:51

in between the analysis, the fellow stuff and all

27:53

that, the time to the other production. You

27:56

just want people who are experienced in making that a

27:58

smooth transition from one game to the And

28:00

if you're an all- It's filler. It's filler.

28:02

If you're an organisation and you're putting together

28:04

the production of a show, why would you

28:07

say, hey, let's get 10 brand new people

28:09

in and just gamble that somehow this is

28:11

going to be the same? I

28:13

think- Well, you don't want people turning off. No,

28:16

you don't. Exactly. But also, you're very

28:18

familiar. I think that's the other thing. People,

28:20

okay, this week I've been playing Pacific

28:23

Drive, which is Kepler's new... It's

28:26

a game where basically you're... I

28:28

read this book. I read the Boris and

28:30

Arcades, whatever their name

28:32

is, their book about

28:35

the exclusion zone and roadside picnic,

28:38

which basically is like... The whole thing is

28:40

like stalker. And

28:43

that's where obviously Chernobyl happened after they'd written this

28:45

book, but the whole book was about what if

28:48

aliens just popped by Earth and had

28:50

a picnic and left again, but

28:53

all of their stuff, their yogurt pots, their

28:56

cigarette butts, were like the animals that come

28:58

out of the forest and they're poisonous to

29:00

us or they kill us or they're like

29:02

radioactive or they're alien. And so it inspired

29:05

this annihilation and loads of

29:07

other media over the years. That's all been

29:09

really good. Any Pacific Drive, similar idea. There's

29:12

this peninsula with weird anomalies,

29:14

alien shit, it's all walled off and

29:16

a little bit like SCP style. You

29:19

get sucked into it and you have to sort of...

29:21

But you've got one of your car is like this

29:23

remnant. You have like

29:25

an old like, quite griswold car that you

29:27

drive around. It's an old 1983 station

29:29

wagon that's all beat up, but it's kind

29:32

of enchanted, right? It's like, it's magical. And

29:34

you can upgrade it too. And

29:36

well, the whole game is like these remnants, people

29:38

get obsessed with them and you get obsessed with

29:41

your car because that's the whole game. The whole

29:43

game is upgrading your car, like

29:45

polishing it, cleaning it, fixing it up,

29:47

like changing the wheels, upgrading the stuff,

29:49

bring like... The game is

29:51

driving out into this exclusion zone, trying to

29:53

dodge these weird anomalies, collecting shit and bringing

29:55

it back. But it's such a pure game.

29:59

It's like obviously... You see, it's

30:02

what gaming has become these days. It's the

30:04

evolution of music and what else we were

30:06

talking about today. The

30:09

only thing it doesn't have is the Assassin's Creed

30:12

Tower where you have to climb up and hit

30:14

things the whole time, right? It doesn't have that,

30:16

but it has basically every other thing that games

30:18

have. And it's quite slow

30:20

as a result, but it's also quite like,

30:22

there's quite a lot of filler. And I

30:25

always find that this is quite interesting

30:27

when I see games have boring, deliberately

30:29

make their game slow and boring and

30:31

awkward, right? Because it keeps the

30:33

player grounded, it immerses the player,

30:36

but it's also comforting sometimes. Yeah, I thought

30:38

Death Stranding did that really well. I love

30:40

that. Yeah, it feels like they

30:42

could have just sped it up. If

30:46

I gave feedback on the game, I'd be like,

30:48

this is too slow. But I think they have

30:50

to resist that sort of player feedback and make

30:52

it quite slow. And it's what I call a

30:54

stream, a good game for streaming streamers, because you

30:57

can kind of just stop at any point and

30:59

talk to chat and then get in your car

31:01

and put it in gear and drive into the

31:03

rain. I don't know, I don't

31:05

have to pay full attention while playing it,

31:08

but sometimes I do. So

31:10

it has those gripping moments where you're like, I'm going to

31:12

have to pay attention now, I'm going to pause my movie,

31:14

I'm going to get in and I'm going to do it.

31:16

And I think it's a similar, I don't know,

31:19

I just feel like it's comforting. The

31:21

filler that you do, P-Flex, I'm sure is

31:23

excellent and has

31:26

its moments, right? Much like everything does,

31:28

like The Apprentice has its moments, but

31:30

mostly people watch it because they kind of

31:32

know what to expect. It's kind of... It's

31:35

just easy and comfortable. It's like brown,

31:37

like pink noise, not brown noise. Also, I'll be honest

31:39

with you, a lot of the people that I work

31:41

with are really, really good at what they do. And

31:43

when you get someone new in, sometimes you

31:46

realise why the people that do what they do are

31:48

hired all the time, because they're very good at it.

31:51

Oh, well, you're not wrong. We have a similar

31:53

thing with the Oxcast people. We've

31:56

been playing games together for 10 years. when

32:00

we play with someone new, even though they're amazing,

32:02

they don't quite gel with our group. As

32:04

a result, they're talking in the wrong places,

32:07

they're like saying things that are a bit

32:09

awkward or like... They're

32:11

horrible racists, all that stuff. It

32:14

is quite common for someone to take

32:17

time to fit in with their group.

32:19

Also each group has its own dynamic.

32:21

What I'm saying is that in

32:23

a sense though, P-Flex, you having this set

32:25

group that's done it together for

32:28

so many years is almost exclusionary to new people

32:30

coming in. It doesn't matter how good they are,

32:32

they're going to take time to fit in. Oh

32:35

yeah, 100%. I

32:38

suppose the thing

32:40

is we're not saying we don't want

32:42

new people. The problem is, I guess

32:45

it's a difficult one because how do you

32:47

get new people without a tier two and

32:49

a tier three scene? That

32:52

whole scene of the secondary and

32:54

tertiary events that orgs would just

32:56

put on died. They got rid

32:58

of a lot of those things

33:00

in the last few years for various reasons I'm not going

33:02

to go into. That

33:04

whole scene died off. It's

33:07

hard for new people to get their faces out

33:09

there, therefore it's hard to find these new people

33:11

to hire. That's just the way it is. When

33:14

it comes to commentary and stuff, a lot of the guys

33:16

that do the casting, they are the

33:18

best at doing it. That's why they get hired

33:20

over and over again. Then you have people come

33:23

and go too. Long standing

33:25

people who leave the scene for a

33:27

variety of reasons as well. There's

33:30

always new blood coming along who are good

33:32

like Jenkins, who are relatively new

33:35

but also really good. Although he has

33:37

been around for ages. Well now, yeah. I

33:40

guess what I'm saying is though that it's not

33:42

worth taking a risk on an unknown. He

33:45

needs to have done something to prove that

33:48

people don't hate him because you don't

33:50

want to be like, oh my god, this guy's awful. And

33:54

all Twitch chat and everyone's just turning off. That's

33:56

the ultimate. It can be really bad for that

33:58

person's career as well. the problem.

34:01

Yeah, and it might not be their fault,

34:03

it might just be that they're just not

34:05

experienced with it. Yeah. So,

34:07

further to me being in Sweden, first of all,

34:09

it's very cold here, much colder than I remembered

34:11

it being in February. Well, it's February. Yeah, but

34:13

I just kind of, I knew it was going

34:15

to be cold. But it's like zero.

34:17

Yeah, well, that's cold. Like zero when the wind

34:19

hits you. It's cold. You're lucky

34:21

it's that. Yeah, I know. I think it's going

34:24

to be much colder. I know. It's still

34:26

cold. It's nearly balmy, almost spring-like London,

34:28

landed in Stockholm. I was like, fuck

34:30

me. There's like ice, they're still gritting the

34:32

roads. Yeah. There's a little bit

34:34

of snow lingering around us. Like Jesus. So,

34:37

I'm looking forward to getting back. It's going to

34:39

feel like landing in one of those hot foreign

34:41

countries when you get off the lake. Yeah, you're

34:43

going to have your Hawaiian short-wind and your camera

34:45

around your neck and stuff. But I don't know

34:47

if this is just a Stockholm thing, even if

34:49

it's just this neighborhood thing. We're

34:52

in sort of the southern part of Stockholm, Hamaby. I

34:54

can't pronounce it, Swedes. I'm sorry. Lovely

35:08

the out

36:00

last night, there were 10 of us out, I was

36:02

the only one that had a beer. Actually, there were

36:04

two of us. The other, they are Welsh lad. So

36:06

it was like, he had one beer, I had a

36:08

couple of beers and nobody else had

36:10

it. They all just, oh, just water for me, please.

36:12

I was like, man, times are changing. Yeah. Well, they've

36:15

got, well, they're fair for work. They're

36:18

fine. They're fair for work. We have to come

36:20

on the next day, a lot of us weren't

36:22

working. You got to get greased up for work.

36:24

And like, not one beer. You're used to working

36:27

on a few pints deep though. That's like your

36:29

natural state. Wow. So I've

36:32

decided to cut back on drinking this

36:34

year. Oh, just like that guy

36:36

on the wire who's got like a, you know,

36:38

like he's got like a Mickey in his desk.

36:42

He's just been on his job. He's retiring in

36:44

like two. I was like, just let him see

36:46

his time out. He's almost got his bench. So

36:49

I obviously, when I'm streaming, I'd normally have a few cans

36:52

when I'm streaming to just kind of, you know, have a

36:54

laugh and everything. And cause just got into

36:56

the habit of it really. So I was like, all right, the

36:58

drinking is going to have to, I'm

37:00

going to have to do less of it. Because

37:02

it was just, it was just becoming a habit

37:04

where I'd have a few cans, quote, relax in

37:06

the evening. I was like, actually, I don't need

37:08

that. And I found, so what I did was

37:11

I substituted like drinking alcohol for just having tonic

37:13

water, the same as I'd have for a gin

37:15

and tonic, but with no gin. So just the

37:17

tonic water with a bit of lime in and

37:19

that sort of, I realized that I was just

37:21

drinking for the taste and just sort

37:23

of habitually, because I didn't want to just drink water in

37:25

the evenings. So I would just have a couple of cans.

37:27

So if I just have tonic, that was, that

37:30

was fine. So we got here on the Friday,

37:32

I had one beer with a couple of lads,

37:34

then we came back to the hotel. And then

37:36

I hadn't had a drink until last night. I

37:38

only had two beers. I was like, man, I'm

37:40

really, if I was in Bristol right now, you

37:42

know, I would have already had a

37:44

5am finish, a 3am finish and

37:47

probably another 5am finish. And

37:49

my liver would be aching. So I just like, you know,

37:51

let's try and cut down on the booze. Let's see what effect

37:53

it has. And I've a couple of

37:55

differences already. First of all, I didn't realize that most

37:57

people can just wake up in the morning. That's,

37:59

that's something. Even having a couple of

38:01

beers makes me much more groggy the next

38:03

day. For two beers, I kind of hadn't

38:06

realized that. Okay. So, yeah, we'll

38:08

see how it goes. So

38:10

you read influence for all these Cleveland

38:13

young folks, you know, doing

38:15

their exercises. Maybe they're onto

38:17

something. You know what a lot of young folk

38:19

are doing now as well, Flax? They're excluding meat

38:22

from their diets too. Yeah, I know. I

38:24

think Flax already does this. We talked about

38:26

this. But I got a couple of comments,

38:28

some people on my Discord are asking about

38:30

that egg thing. How much you

38:32

love eggs? No, so like, I don't want to get

38:35

into it again, because obviously we did it last week.

38:37

I've said this so many

38:39

times, I have no problem with vegans. Lewis is

38:41

a vegan, he's one of my best friends. When

38:44

we go down to Bristol, whatever, I will go out

38:46

to eat with people and they're all vegans and I'm

38:48

not like preaching at them and shouting at them and

38:50

stuff like that. I just require two things

38:52

occasionally as... You're just comedy to see people.

38:55

You don't need to have a fucking... Right, but the

38:57

idea is that that's not what I'm doing. The

39:00

idea is that somehow I'm like, how

39:02

dare you fucking get to make Danny

39:05

Nate way? Like an orc. Like a

39:07

fucking orc, right? Like I'm not that

39:09

person. So let's not give her that

39:11

caricature. My

39:13

issues are, number one, sometimes I will have

39:15

legitimate questions. I think asking why vegans don't

39:17

eat eggs is fair enough. And a

39:20

friend of mine said that he does know some people

39:22

who are vegans, but eat the eggs that their own

39:24

chickens produce because they know that these

39:26

chickens are well looked after and all the rest

39:28

of it. It's an egg. So I was

39:30

like... Because the logic to me of

39:32

veganism makes sense as

39:35

a concept. If you're saying it's about the

39:37

harmful treatment of animals, like the harming animals.

39:39

I completely understand that. I think that's a

39:41

genuinely noble stance. Fair enough. There's no actual

39:44

moral argument that I can make that says

39:46

actually torturing animals and eating them is a

39:48

good thing. I'm not going to try and

39:50

make that argument. So I will just occasionally

39:52

have questions. And one of them was about

39:55

eggs. And everybody jumped to,

39:57

well, people at these battery farms, I'm

39:59

saying. Alright, so if we take the

40:01

battery farms out of it and these chickens

40:04

live a luxurious life, you're still not eating

40:06

the eggs. So if the answer is no,

40:08

then just say, well, it's a personal

40:10

choice. I don't like eggs. That's a very

40:12

different conversation. That's all I'm saying. Sorry. I

40:16

think we're all right. Quick things, though. Let's

40:18

go through before we read our time. Sips,

40:21

the apprentice was in Jersey. In

40:23

Jersey, please talk about this. It

40:25

was. I watched the episode. It

40:28

was good. Well, I mean, it was

40:30

the apprentice. You recognized local Jersey site?

40:32

Well, of course. I mean, I knew

40:35

everywhere they were. I

40:39

knew like even just like when they're in the

40:41

car in the countryside, I was like, oh yeah,

40:43

I know where they are. Like, you become familiar

40:45

with the place that you live in. Especially

40:48

a small place. Yeah, you're going to know

40:50

it inside out. Was it like watching yourself

40:52

on a task box or something

40:54

or on a YouTube video? Well,

40:56

not really. But like it was. I mean,

40:59

there was one point when they were. Well, you've

41:01

been here before this, you know, the central market in

41:03

town. Yeah, yeah. There was one point when they were

41:05

in there and they were snooping around trying to find

41:07

some stuff or whatever. And Karen Brady

41:09

had her notepad and her sunglasses on. You

41:12

bet she did. She was looking around and

41:14

making notes. And we thought that was kind

41:16

of funny because like, you

41:19

know, to think that Karen Brady is

41:21

like in the market that you go to

41:23

nearly every day or whatever. Yeah, in the

41:25

place where you get that pizza. Yeah, yeah.

41:28

But I mean, that was about it.

41:31

They went to like the, you know, the

41:33

really nice parts of the island for sure.

41:36

Karen Brady is so hot. She's

41:38

such a just a strong and

41:40

powerful woman. Well, that's that. Yeah,

41:43

on me, mommy. OK.

41:48

Yeah, no, it was.

41:50

It was good. It was funny.

41:52

That's the Lewis. Please don't talk

41:55

about that anymore. OK. Good stuff.

41:57

Let's move on. So

41:59

do you want to hear the. I don't want

42:01

gaming news. I want weirdo news. I

42:03

want gaming news. I want weirdo news.

42:05

We can- We'll do one

42:07

of each. We'll do one of each. Why

42:09

am I on gaming news? We don't know.

42:11

In America, when do you start to do

42:14

surge pricing like Uber does? Are you fucking

42:16

serious? So when it's busy, the prices are

42:18

going to go up. That is crazy. How

42:20

has no restaurant thought of this before? That's

42:22

ingenious. Those devilish bastards. So burgers, frosties, and

42:25

other menu items will cost more. Maybe that's

42:27

what they're doing in Sweden. That's why they're

42:29

all leaving at 7.30. The surge

42:32

starts at 8. Gotta get it. Tuck in,

42:34

guys. It's almost 8 o'clock. I think it's

42:36

just because it gets dark earlier that they

42:38

got used to eating out of it anyway.

42:40

So surge pricing at Wendy's, okay. In related

42:42

food news, the 29 vending

42:46

machines at the University of Waterloo

42:48

in Canada are being removed after

42:50

students discovered they each- they all

42:52

have little cameras in them that

42:54

film whoever uses them and

42:56

whoever's in front of them. You know how

42:59

ATMs have cameras, right? And they use it

43:01

on crime shows all the time. Vending

43:03

machines are now just sticking them in

43:05

as a standard practice. Yeah, but standard

43:07

practice for what? Well, because

43:09

to catch people who try to shake them, shake out

43:11

of those crisps loose, you know. Oh,

43:14

do they have a little alarm in them? Shake the polo mince out.

43:16

I don't know. People still get crushed by

43:18

vending machines. Maybe it's for safety reasons. No, it

43:20

just seems like it's- Really? Yeah.

43:22

And everywhere's got cameras these days. They're

43:24

so cheap and I would

43:26

imagine they were in everything. If

43:29

I didn't know better. I don't care if

43:31

a vending machine watches me buy a Twix

43:34

unless of course it reports

43:36

me to the vegan police. I just assume

43:38

there's cameras everywhere and that's why I make

43:40

a point to just jerk off everywhere I

43:42

go. As much as possible. So

43:46

the students were like appalled that there was

43:48

a camera in the vending machines? The students

43:50

got mad about it. Why? Because

43:52

they're naive and they didn't realize that cameras are

43:55

everywhere. They're everywhere. They're probably on 15 cameras already

43:57

while they're using the vending machine. That is odd.

44:00

That's why because you know, it's a

44:02

news because it's news isn't it? Right

44:04

kids in Norway Studies

44:07

have shown that kids have younger kids are

44:10

being bullied over their lack of Cosmetic

44:12

skins and in-game items in

44:14

FIFA fortnight and war zone

44:18

So again, no, this is not

44:20

news kids have always been bullied

44:22

for having less I don't worry because I've

44:24

got I bought the Wu Tang pack for

44:26

fortnight and I've

44:29

got a season one

44:31

skibbity toilet So

44:36

I'm good Your

44:39

digital shit is not as good as my

44:41

digital trainers. That's right. Yes I'm

44:44

sorry, but that is that is just kids

44:46

are shit to each other. Yeah, yeah part

44:48

a thousand. Yeah, that's ridiculous They did there's

44:50

a thing in fortnight My

44:53

son plays it every day with

44:55

his friends from school they go on and play like

44:57

when they get home from school and I

45:00

was every once in a while I just like,

45:02

you know peer over his shoulder and say oh,

45:04

you know take cover or You know, I've given

45:06

him advice. He's probably way better than me But

45:09

he's on the shop and he was talking

45:11

to his friends and they got a Lady

45:13

Gaga skin Which

45:15

a bit weird because I feel like

45:17

she's not very No,

45:20

she's not super relevant anymore, right The

45:23

kids that play fortnight, I think yeah But

45:26

anyways, she's got like a skin and there's like

45:28

some music clip when she with an

45:30

emote and stuff and I just figured Nah,

45:33

nobody's probably gonna buy that right? Um, and

45:35

he joins a game in the lobby like

45:37

every fucking person has it I think it's

45:39

all Lady Gaga skins and they're all doing

45:42

the emote music and stuff. So What

45:45

the fuck? I know how strange? God

45:48

I've gotten okay. Apparently there's

45:51

a company called game sent and this all

45:53

happens every few years that so this comes

45:55

around But there's the idea of

45:57

this this device by a tech company that you put

46:00

a little box on your desk or whatever

46:02

and it connects to what you're doing in a

46:05

video game and Will

46:07

release sense alongside your game

46:10

So it has currently it's got the smells of you

46:12

want to hear the smells. Can you guess what the

46:14

smell? Far sure how

46:17

many thoughts are there in a video game sips? Well,

46:19

you're playing the wrong games Smell

46:22

like kind of iron my favorite game

46:24

perfect lover has a lot of farting

46:26

in it. Okay. No, there's no thoughts

46:29

the ones are done fire Smell

46:32

a melon gun fire. I would be

46:34

alarmed to smell that in my gaming

46:37

Garage, I would like that there

46:39

was actually a fire breaking smell

46:41

of explosions That's not very

46:43

sound like it would be very similar to the

46:45

smell of gunfire. Yeah, the smell

46:47

of racing I guess imagine that's like burned

46:50

tires Imagine

46:52

imagine the thing malfunctioned and you're

46:54

playing like Baldur's Gate

46:56

3 and you meet like your dream

46:58

honey for the very first time and

47:00

it admits smell of shit and just

47:03

For you, this smells like manure. What

47:06

the fuck is going on with

47:08

my scent box exactly Yeah, and then

47:10

the other two are storm and forest.

47:12

What does that mean? storm

47:15

is like Guy smells

47:17

like wet leaves and stuff. I guess. Yeah,

47:19

force does too But I probably

47:21

got mine, you know, like those pine

47:24

scented car sense I mean, I'm not

47:26

being funny, but sips should get the

47:28

the smell of soap for all those power

47:30

washing Yeah, you know

47:33

the smell of detergent and so

47:35

freshly wet concrete. Yes The

47:39

smell of old recycling actually have a

47:41

diffuser in my garage and I have

47:43

soap in it I have the

47:46

smell of cedar in here all

47:48

the time and it's glorious very

47:50

relaxing So this immersive thing the

47:52

way it works is it uses AI? No, of

47:54

course here what's Like

47:58

capture the audio so it's not into

48:00

the game anyway, it's just like the audio

48:02

that the game produces, if it hears like

48:04

that stock bear sound, then it

48:07

just must like make a bear fart

48:09

or whatever. I would love it if

48:11

it could detect using

48:13

AI could detect what I'm doing, like farting

48:15

or burping. And then when I'm playing Tarkov

48:18

or whatever with a squad, if I burp,

48:20

they could smell. Like it would bear scent

48:22

bottle, it would just be like bad breath

48:24

and yeah, like vinegar and

48:32

cola mixed together. Oh my god. That

48:34

would be great. Such a good

48:36

idea. I love that. Just like do

48:39

a little fart, just a really eggy

48:41

one. I think it would improve, you

48:43

know, morale across the box. A

48:45

must have. Yeah. Oh my god, who let one

48:48

rip you're trying to hold dorms? Fucking

48:50

hell, it stinks. I gotta get

48:52

out of here. Oh my god.

48:55

Yeah, it's perfect, isn't it? So

48:57

yeah, I like, I like the

48:59

idea of that. Well, I don't

49:01

know. I do something like this

49:03

for a parking game. The

49:05

yes, but they promoted butthole.

49:08

Yes. Yes, they did. No, I

49:10

have to wear it. What else is the awful? The

49:13

Florida man games. Okay. Is it

49:15

like an Olympics, but for Florida

49:17

man, they rose up by the

49:20

dozens from across Florida, caricatured competitors

49:22

in tank tops and cutoff shorts

49:25

for a showdown that treats

49:27

evading police and wrestling over

49:29

beer like Olympic sports. Nice.

49:31

The most insane athletic showdown

49:34

on earth. It pokes

49:36

fun at the state's reputation

49:38

for brawling, drinking, gunfire, reptile

49:41

wrangling and other antics that

49:43

involve jail, time or intensive

49:45

care. Jesus. So

49:48

yes, it's, it's, it's,

49:50

I don't know. I didn't even know. Okay. So okay.

49:53

James Gorson of the land won

49:55

the first event, which involved wolfing

49:57

down a plate loaded with barbecue

50:00

sausage. Jesus. He chucked a

50:02

beer to celebrate. I've lived

50:04

in Florida my whole life!

50:07

And after washing sauce for his

50:09

hands. Nice. They're

50:11

calling these events. I'm

50:14

calling this fucking Tuesday afternoon.

50:17

Very good. One

50:21

event had contenders jewelling in muddy water

50:23

in an inflatable pool. Pummeling

50:25

each other with weapons made from

50:28

pool, noodles and duct tape. Another

50:31

was a theft relay in

50:34

which competitors raced while carrying

50:36

a pair of bicycles, copper

50:38

pipes and catalytic converters. Heavens.

50:40

Good God. Yeah,

50:42

it's great. Donnelly42

50:44

says, I, Larry Donnelly,

50:46

I have an absolute disregard for

50:48

self-preservation. I will do anything. When

50:51

I was in the military, I did a

50:53

little alligator wrestling. He says,

50:56

I have no regard for my

50:58

life, essentially. Those

51:00

are the people who say, hurricane, I ain't moving. And

51:03

it's just like the hurricane comes in and raises them

51:05

to the ground. Well, if that's the case, you can

51:07

take my pinched nerve then, my friend. And

51:09

I'll carry on enjoying my life

51:12

if you don't value yours. Amazing.

51:16

Alright, listen, I gotta go to the doctor's. Yeah,

51:18

my man's gotta go. Thank you everyone. Good

51:20

luck. See you all next time. Thank you. Wish

51:22

me luck and I'll let you know next time.

51:25

And enjoy yourselves out there.

51:27

Alright, goodbye. Goodbye.