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Holsters are imperfect profits. We saw
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them humiliated in the Twenty sixteen
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Us. General Election. One survey by
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the Princeton Election Consortium declared that
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the chance of Hillary Clinton defeating
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Donald Trump was over ninety. Nine
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percent. Here. In the Uk and
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the same year, very few believe that the majority
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would vote to leave the European Union, Even among
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those he most desired that outcome. The. Electorate
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is a fickle beast. so what are
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we to make of the latest of
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many ominous polls for the Conservatives? A
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recent You Gov analysis seemingly obliterates Rishi
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soon x chances of victory with Labour
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projected to win over four hundred seats.
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If this prophecy plays out, it would
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see numerous cabinet ministers dispatched including Jeremy
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Hunt, Penny Mordant, and Grant Shapps. The
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results are even worse for the Tories
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than those revealed by a poll commissioned
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by Conservative Britain Alliance in January, which
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drew information from a sample seven. Times
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larger than the norm. We've. Seen pollsters
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get it disastrously wrong in the past,
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but surely the return of labor is
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now an inevitability. And although I'm
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unlikely to vote for either sooner or Starmer.
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I. Would never be comfortable with any
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one party holding such an overwhelming
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majority. Effective government requires effective opposition.
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The dominance of the Snp in
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Scotland should buy now have taught
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us all a lesson about the
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calamities of a one party state.
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So now might be inopportune moment
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to revisit the prospect of electoral
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reform. A new system that might
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usher into parliament a wider range
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of perspectives and keep the excesses
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of the government in check Seems
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long overdue. The first past the
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post system guarantees. That the two major
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parties are forever buying for ultimate control. But
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is this necessarily best for the country? It.
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Certainly isn't democratic. Take the general
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election Twenty fifteen. Having gone at
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three point nine million votes, you
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kip were rewarded with just one
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seat in parliament. By. Contrast,
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the one point five million votes for
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the S M P resulted in fifty
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six seats. Under. proportional representation
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you kid would have ended up with
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83 members of Parliament. Now I was
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never a supporter of UKIP, but I
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was surprised by those who couldn't resist
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the temptation to rebel in the sheer
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injustice of this result. At the time
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we heard many commentators resorting to a
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combination of kazooistry and self-deception to claim
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that it was somehow in the interests
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of the demos to prevent its wishes
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from being realised. Nothing much
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has changed over the years with
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smaller parties often routinely belittled as
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irrelevant or populist. In the case
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of UKIP, David Cameron famously referred
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to them as fruitcakes, loonies
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and closet racists. The
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latter designation sounds very much like
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the kind of amateur telepathy one
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hears from those who habitually accuse
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their political opponents of dog whistling.
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Even if it were the case that
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the electorate was merely some kind of
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basket of deplorables to borrow Hillary Clinton's
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self-destructive utterance, this would not warrant the
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high-handed dismissal of their wishes. Democracy
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is by no means flawless but it's
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surely better than the alternative. One
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thinks of that phrase often attributed to Churchill,
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democracy is the worst form of government except
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for all the others. The novelist
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E.M. Forster came to a similar
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conclusion when he wrote that democracy
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is less hateful than other contemporary
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forms of government and to that
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extent it deserves our support. A
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benevolent tyrant can do wonders for
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society until his ego becomes inflated
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with overfeeding. One thing is
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certain, the current system is not working. A
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trust in government survey by the Office
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of National Statistics last year revealed that
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Parliament and the political parties were the
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least trusted of all public institutions, trusted
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by 24% and 12% of
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the population respectively. This is
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the natural consequence of a rise of a
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technocratic approach to governance, a preponderance
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of careerists rather than truly vocational
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members of Parliament and a paternalistic
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attitude from our representatives towards those
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who have put them in power.
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These are combustible times with many of
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us now joining that growing tribe of
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the politically homeless. The failings of
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both our major parties are not going
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to be remedied by the electorate lurching
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from one to the other, a kind
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of seesaw that swings according to desperation
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and fatigue. Events of recent
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years have disclosed an unappealing truth.
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Many of the political class no longer
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believe in democracy. Consider
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what happened in the post-Brexit years when
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MPs on both sides of the House
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were brazenly attempting to subvert the result
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of the largest mandate in political history.
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The demos had voted the wrong way and
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had to be stopped. Rather
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than reflect on why the public vote
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the way they do, many politicians have
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instead sought to gain the system and
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work around the wishes of the people.
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Former Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg wrote
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a book called How to Stop Brexit.
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It may as well have been called How to
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Stop Democracy. Political philosopher
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Jason Brennan was more explicit in his aims. His
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book Against Democracy argued that voters
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were too fickle, ill-informed and easily
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manipulated to be interested with major
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decisions. He favoured an
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epistocracy, rule of the knowledgeable, a
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notion reminiscent of Plato's ideal of
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the philosopher king. Opponents
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of this view, by contrast, remind
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us that it is natural and
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healthy for politicians to fear the
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might of the electorate. The British
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socialist Tony Benn was fond of
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asking five key questions regarding democracy.
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What power have you got? Where
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did you get it from? In whose
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interests do you use it? To
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whom are you accountable? How do
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we get rid of you? This final
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question strikes at the heart of what it
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means to live in a society free from
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tyranny. In a democracy, those
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in political authority are servants of the
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people and may be dispensed with at
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their collective whim. Perhaps the
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future of British politics lies with the
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smaller parties who might effectively elevate the
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voices of the demos rather than strategise
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to see them stifled. This
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will require a system of proportional
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representation. Not in the
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interests of either major party to countenance
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such an eventuality, A
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referendum on P R might have
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been a condition of a few to
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coalition between Labour and the Liberal
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Democrats, but these latest polls make
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this outcome highly unlikely. The. Last
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serious attempt to the electoral reform with
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the referendum on the Alternative Vote a
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the which came about due to the
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conservative and lib dem coalition government that
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formed after the Twenty Ten General Election.
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It seems like a fudge, a
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system of ranking candidates in order
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of preference that occupied a kind
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of middle ground between first past
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the post and proportional representation. Nick
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Clegg called it a miserable little
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compromise. Explanatory leaflets from the electoral
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Commission made the a the system
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attain needlessly complicated. Those who were
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team for reform will be asked
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to settle for second best. Little
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wonder that the boat is one
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persuaded. It has been said
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that our first i suppose system protects
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us from the ineffectual and volatile nature
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of coalition governments, and one might point
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to Italy as a cautionary tale, but
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Germany, Finland, and the Netherlands seem to
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make it work. And. There's no
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reason to think it would be preferable
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to the instability we've experienced under off
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two party system. I. Mean could
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it really gets any worse? The.
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Tories will rightly be dropped in
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the next election, Most significantly, by
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those who are fully aware that
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a Labour government will ensure that
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the decline interest continues. Such is
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the strength of feeling against the
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Conservative party's betrayal of it's principles
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that it's traditional supporters would rather
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seen punished them prevent a Labour
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victory. But. All of this back and forth
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gets us nowhere. We. Surely require
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a former democracy than is workable
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for our times. The. Dominance
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of these two parties is why electoral
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reform is so needed. But. It
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is also why it is unlikely to
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materialize. In other words, the
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nature of the problem works against it's
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own solution. These. Circumstances are
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far from ideal. But. It looks as
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though we're going to be stuck in this maddening cycle.
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The foreseeable future. Like
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this of us will just have to keep
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on rolling that rock up the hill until
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someone finds a way to break it apart.
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