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Shut up! The foot is over in the air!

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Triple M footy starts your weekend early. How

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good is footy? With every

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massive moment. When you hop, you hop!

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This... Couldn't be more exciting. Is

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the Thursday rough. Camel on down to

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thirsty Camel bottle shops for un-seriously good

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deals. Drink responsibly. For

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Reem Hot Water in McDonald's, Triple

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M rockslea. It's

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159 days since Collingwood stood at

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the top of the mountain. And

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tonight, the climb begins again. Everyone

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starts from the bottom at

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round zero. That's right. Round zero. It's

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a new year and it's a new

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show because the Thursday rub is set

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and ready to go. And we start

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our season at the SCG on a

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beautiful night for footy as the swans

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play host to the demons. Gee, it's

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good to be back. This is

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something very, very exciting. Brand new season, as

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I say. Brand new show. And this

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team is all assembled for the Thursday rub. I'm

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Jack Heverin. I have the honour of driving the

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bus with this star-studded lineup. And of course, we

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start with the Queen of Triple M Footy. She's

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an AFLW All-Australian. She's the next big thing in

1:08

footy media. And passed

1:10

a very, very late fitness test to be

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here tonight. Kate McCarthy, good evening to you.

1:15

Jack, it is great to be here purely

1:17

because that means that I am feeling slightly

1:19

better than I was this afternoon after the

1:21

fight. Yeah, we'll get on to

1:23

that soon. But excited for round zero. Never

1:25

thought I'd say that. What is round zero?

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You ask. I'm not sure. But

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we're about to find out. You might only get one

1:32

year to say it. So enjoy it while we're here.

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He's one of the very best in the business. I

1:36

speak, of course, of Jay Z. Clark, who looks very

1:38

fit, very tanned, albeit a little bit sweaty. Jay Z.

1:40

Clark, good to see you. It was a 37-minute walk

1:42

from my hotel to the SCG. And I underrated the

1:44

humidity up here in Sydney. So I

1:47

did sweat up a treat. It was uphill. I

1:49

didn't bank on the uphill factor either. So I

1:51

did come in hot. But great to be here.

1:53

I'm not sure how you're going to see the

1:55

left-hand side of the ground, to be honest, though,

1:57

Jack, because there's a big concrete. great

2:00

pile on right in front of you to your left.

2:02

So maybe you just call the right hand side of

2:04

the ground and Speedy can call

2:07

the left hand side of the ground. But I'm excited,

2:09

very excited for who you're about to

2:11

introduce next. We cannot wait any longer. There

2:13

was a bidding war in the off season.

2:15

All of the radio stations came together. Some

2:17

offers were pretty underwhelming compared to others.

2:20

It's got to be said. But

2:22

he's a free agent that everyone wanted, a four

2:24

time premiership player, Norm Smith medalist, year in, year

2:26

out when players say, who would you most like

2:29

to have a beer with? They say Isaac Smith.

2:31

Well, he is with us on triple M footy.

2:33

Welcome to you, Isaac Smith. Oh, thank you. Thank

2:35

you. Well, I've had a lot of beers in

2:38

the last six months. So yeah,

2:41

take a ticket and we'll have one. Isaac, people

2:43

talk about you as the best bloke in footy.

2:45

You know, you speak to the guys at Geelong

2:47

and Hawthoy. He's such a good bloke. You absolutely

2:49

love him. Well, we can knock that out

2:51

of you here at Triple M. We can

2:53

really bring a person down. So we'll see how

2:55

that goes. But I think this is a bigger

2:58

recruit jack than even when he went to

3:00

the cats. It was big when he went

3:02

from, you know, the hawks to the cats,

3:04

the big robert. I think it's this is

3:06

an even bigger pickup for us. That's how it's

3:08

how fresh out of the game. A tactical

3:10

mind. He's funny and a massive pickup for

3:12

us. Just a quick one. Did you guys have to take

3:14

pay cuts as well? Do you get

3:17

paid? Oh, no, it's funny

3:19

how those conversations. Oh, look, we need

3:22

to have a bit of a chat.

3:24

We just signed Isaac Smith. Can

3:26

you just take a little bit of a cut? How

3:29

has retirement been? We're going to talk a little bit

3:31

more about what's coming up for you in the media.

3:33

And Kate sort of done some work. And now that

3:35

she's a seasoned campaigner, she's got some advice to share

3:37

with you a little bit later on. But how has

3:39

post footy been for you? It's been shocking. You

3:44

look really stressed. No,

3:46

it's been it's been pretty cool. I've got to

3:49

spend the last six months at home with the

3:51

two kids. But that

3:53

was hard work. And I said to my wife the other

3:55

week, I cannot wait for the football season to start because

3:57

I need to get out of this house. So now I've

4:00

I've had a great period and I

4:02

was just talking to Jude Bolton who's another triple m

4:04

boy and he said just get used to it you

4:06

have every summer off and you do nothing so that's

4:09

what I'm planning but we're not sure how it'll unfold

4:11

but I'm very excited for the footy season to start

4:13

and I reckon round zero is here to stay. And

4:16

a newly minted AFL life

4:18

member so I went to the season

4:20

launcher last night I think 10 new

4:22

AFL life member inductees you were up

4:24

there Isaac so congratulations mate you did

4:26

it for two clubs over a very

4:28

long time you got more you got

4:30

that many premiership medals you could think

4:32

a shipmate including the Norm suit medals

4:35

so well done on that you're up

4:37

there with your great mate Lukey

4:39

Brewster as well so what did that mean to you? Yeah

4:41

that was pretty cool and I was saying to a

4:44

few people it's certainly not something you set out to

4:46

achieve but when you sit

4:48

back and you look at it it's an honour and

4:50

it's pretty funny Luke and I grew up

4:53

in a country town called Tamora and

4:56

we played all our junior footy and basketball together

4:58

and we were inducted into the AFL Hall

5:00

of Fame or Hall of Fame life member sorry I've

5:03

already jumped the gun. Obviously it

5:05

means a lot. Talk

5:07

about Hall of Fame. But

5:11

it's actually it's really cool and

5:14

there's not many footballs that have come well there's only

5:16

two footballs that have come out of Tamora and it's

5:18

the two of us and we got inducted as life

5:20

members together in the AFL so it's pretty special not.

5:23

You're not the type that does

5:26

this often but have you had a chance to think

5:28

about your career now that it's all done and dusted

5:30

from where you were in a bit of a later

5:32

start your story is so unique have you had a

5:34

chance to actually reflect on this now? I

5:36

think because it's me and

5:39

your individual accolade you don't really sit back and

5:41

think about them to be honest but when

5:44

I do it takes a little bit of time because

5:46

there's been a... Noooooo!

5:48

He's away! He's

5:50

away! Yes, is

5:52

danger flat with you about the non-speech? Has

5:54

he got over the fact that the judges

5:56

gave you the votes because he thought he

5:59

was pretty handy. in the Premiership decider. I

6:01

don't know how he could be, but I

6:03

had 36 and kicked three. They were all

6:05

in the first three quarters. Stagerock up was

6:07

fourth quarter and he's had 10 touches and

6:10

he wanted an all-spit. Go

6:12

on, buddy. I think you

6:14

found your right place here on trip length. I'm

6:16

not sure some of the other offers would have

6:18

taken that one. What about you, Kate? You

6:20

were... Well, there were some pictures that

6:22

started to surface on our text message group at about

6:25

2.30 this afternoon, which... Well,

6:27

they didn't look very good for you at that stage. We thought you were out.

6:30

What happened? Yeah,

6:32

well, first of all, Isaac and I

6:34

have probably known each other for two

6:36

weeks now. And the one

6:39

thing that I didn't think I'd be doing, knowing

6:41

someone for two weeks, was vomiting in a

6:43

cab in front of them. That was not great. Today. Today,

6:46

yes. She's lucky you've got kids. I

6:48

was catching vomit. I actually had their

6:50

hands out. At least it's

6:52

not yours for once. But

6:55

also, the other thing, I wasn't really expecting him

6:57

to just completely wrap me out and send

6:59

photos off to the group. Yeah,

7:02

that was a bit of a dog.

7:04

Well, no, I was just concerned. I thought

7:06

I needed to send on the information to

7:08

let everyone know that you might not be here tonight. So,

7:11

no, I was really concerned. But

7:13

it's been a very big revival. Went

7:17

to the hotel, had a very quick

7:19

shower, laid down for about 15 minutes,

7:21

somehow got through

7:23

a packed tram, bought a bin liner from

7:25

the hotel just in case. But I'm here

7:27

now and I'm feeling a lot better. What

7:29

about Isaac's initiation to first day on

7:31

the job, Jay-Z? He's flown

7:34

with Kate and caught a vomit the whole way

7:36

through. Then he's caught a tram

7:38

to the footy because it's easy to get a

7:40

tram to the SCG than get a taxi around

7:42

this place. And then he sits

7:44

up here in what is easily the worst commentary

7:47

box in Australian Rules Football. It's

7:49

tiny. Welcome to the big dance, Isaac.

7:51

Oh, well, show business. What do they say? Yes. And

7:54

out the back was mobbed by people. Even

7:57

Sydney fans won a photo with him and a signer

7:59

and such. It was a line for him so he

8:01

still got the yup. I did bet this one's in too, Granny.

8:04

They know how good you are. Hey,

8:08

can I just touch on a quick serious note,

8:10

can I Jack? Because there has been a lot

8:12

of news kicking around over the last 48 hours

8:14

and we know with the Jimmy Webster suspension, seven

8:17

matches for him for that massive bump on

8:19

Jai Simkin who's out indefinitely for the moment

8:22

and hope he recovers quickly. But Alistair Clarkson

8:24

provided a pretty dramatic postscript to this incident

8:26

when he came on a quarter time and

8:28

gave a gob full really to a couple of

8:31

the Sin Kilda players. You

8:33

saw him last night, Isaac, at

8:35

the AFL Life membership of course.

8:37

He's always a little bit grumpy

8:39

with me, I must say. But did you have

8:42

a chat with Clarko? And just did you say,

8:44

mates, any dangerous sort of changing your ways of

8:46

quieting down a little bit? Yeah, well

8:48

now that I'm not a player, I've actually got to answer these

8:50

questions. So, no I did. I had

8:52

a great chat with Clarko last night and it was

8:54

awesome for Clarko to be there because he was obviously

8:56

my senior coach for 10 years and he coached Luke

8:58

for 11 or 12. So

9:01

he holds certainly a special place in our career

9:04

and he was in great spirits.

9:06

I think the week had passed

9:08

a little bit. I

9:10

guess if he had his time again he

9:12

probably wouldn't do exactly what he did. But

9:15

the thing I will say, as a player and playing

9:17

under him, he would

9:19

always back his players and he'd always stick up

9:21

for his players whether it was private or public.

9:24

And that galvanises the group. And

9:27

I know times have changed and

9:29

things are done differently now in football

9:31

but the one thing that'll do is

9:33

that'll galvanise the North Melbourne Football Club.

9:35

Their captain went down, their coach

9:37

has gone and stood up for him, maybe not in

9:39

the way that the public

9:41

would necessarily agree with but those

9:45

players will now play even harder for Clarko

9:47

and that's what he wants. He doesn't care

9:50

about the outside and the public. He

9:52

wants North Melbourne now to be the best football club

9:54

and the best team it can be and he's doing

9:56

that the way he knows how. how

10:00

I think it's got a little bit

10:02

of form in this area now doesn't it? You

10:04

could say that. Yeah, I just think my

10:07

opinion is it's a bad look for a

10:09

coach to be doing that. I

10:12

understand, I completely understand, very

10:14

disappointed for his captain as he should have been. It

10:17

was a very, very poor act from Jimmy

10:19

Webster. 100% agree with that. I

10:22

just think as a head coach of a

10:24

football club, particularly after the tumultuous

10:26

year he had last year and

10:29

also has done a similar thing before as

10:31

well, I would think that

10:33

he'd probably come back in a mindset where

10:36

he's potentially considering how that affects other

10:38

people and what that does but clearly

10:40

he's not. You know him

10:42

a lot better than I am so it's probably why you're

10:44

laughing as I say that. That he's never going to consider

10:46

what he does. You're

10:49

throwing me under the bus. Well, you've been

10:51

friends for two weeks, you might have been

10:53

friends for a third after this.

10:55

I'm just thinking a fine of tens of thousands

10:57

of dollars. I'm with you there Kate.

10:59

So it's going to be a significant fine. You

11:01

know, this whispers a sort of $30,000 fine so

11:03

it will be significant for Clarkson. I think that'll

11:05

be handed down from the AFL tomorrow. It's out

11:07

of interest. What is the maddest you've ever seen

11:09

him Isaac? Have you got a memory

11:11

where he's just sort of really lost his mind?

11:13

We're not talking about it on air. The

11:18

Green Hot Water McDonald's

11:20

Trivallon, Roxbury. It's

11:25

the Thursday rub from the SCG, the Swans and the

11:27

demons are going to open the 2024 season.

11:31

We are here for thirsty Camel Camel on

11:33

down to thirsty Camel bottle shops for unseriously

11:35

good deals and of course drink responsibly. Kate

11:37

McCarthy, Isaac Smith, Jay Z Clark and Jack

11:39

Heverin. We are right to go for the

11:42

opening night of the season. Unfortunately for Luke

11:44

Parker, he's not right to go and won't

11:46

be out there tonight. But it is a

11:48

big year for the Swans. They're celebrating 150

11:50

years and tonight they're marching to the match.

11:52

They've asked fans to get to the complex

11:54

early, march to the SCG and form a guard of

11:56

honour and some of the club's past greats are going to

11:59

be joining them. as well. Luke Parker does join

12:01

us here on the Thursday. Rob, not out

12:03

there tonight as we mentioned. Luke, welcome. How's the

12:05

injury coming along first and foremost? Hello

12:08

guys, thanks for having me. Yeah, the injury

12:10

is going alright. I had our surgery about

12:12

two weeks ago, so at

12:14

the moment just kind of taking it week by week to

12:16

see how it feels and once

12:19

I get the full function and stuff back, hopefully

12:21

I can be back in no time, but we'll just have to

12:23

kind of wait and see at the moment. Luke,

12:26

I'm a bit surprised you're not just jumping out.

12:28

You're one of the toughest home-braids in football. Did

12:30

you have a chat with the dogs and just

12:32

sort of say, any danger I can sneak out

12:35

there? You know, round zero, opening round, whatever you

12:37

want to call it. Did you try and persuade

12:39

them at all? Yeah, don't worry. I've

12:41

been in their office for half the week and they've

12:44

locked the door on me, I think. They just told me to piss off

12:46

because I've been trying to. Unfortunately,

12:49

you've got to go with the professionals at

12:51

some times and yeah,

12:53

over your own stupidity. So yeah,

12:56

we'll see in the coming weeks how it progresses and

12:58

go from there. And

13:00

congratulations last night Luke. So you're in

13:02

touch, we're sitting with Isaac Smith who

13:04

was up on stage with you along

13:06

with Luke Bruce. So an AFL life

13:08

member, mate. That's an incredible

13:11

achievement for yourself. Obviously one of the more decorated

13:13

players in the game going around at the moment.

13:15

Well done. Yeah, thank you.

13:17

It was actually a pretty special night. So I

13:19

think two weeks out I was probably thought I wasn't

13:21

going because I was like, no, we're preparing for a

13:23

game the next night. But it

13:26

was actually really great to be there and accept that and

13:29

actually reflect on I guess what I've done

13:31

for the last 14 years. Yeah, well

13:33

as you mentioned Luke, it was a very

13:36

special night. So myself and

13:38

Luke and every other inductee, they flew their

13:40

wives up. You're obviously a Sydney boy that

13:42

lives in the eastern suburbs. So you're hop

13:45

skipping a jump from the Roslyn

13:47

Theatre where we held the event and somehow your

13:49

beautiful wife Kate couldn't even make it to the

13:51

event. Did you invite her or? I

13:54

don't know if the invite went out, but I

13:57

think she said it was a pretty important mass

13:59

episode going on. going on.

14:01

That probably

14:03

took priority.

14:06

But no, it was kind of last minute that I said

14:08

yes to it so I probably didn't give it enough chance.

14:11

I could obviously enjoy the beers like yourself. Well

14:14

I'm speechless mate, I don't even

14:16

know what to say, someone else

14:18

needs to jump in here. Luke

14:21

looking forward to this evening so

14:24

obviously yourself, Taylor Adams, Alan

14:26

Mills, big outs from the

14:28

midfield for Sydney but we know

14:30

how great the young, I guess

14:32

they're not quite as young anymore as they

14:34

were but Gouldin and Warner, how they are

14:37

going to roll through. We've seen a bit

14:39

of obviously Isaac Heaney floating

14:41

through the centre bounce. Will he be picking

14:43

up a little bit more midfield time with those

14:45

three outs that we've got? Yeah

14:47

a little bit. I think you'll see kind

14:49

of the same couple of blokes that were probably

14:51

featured in the last couple of games so

14:53

Isaac will be running through there a bit more.

14:56

It'll be a heavily rotation with like

14:58

Chad Warne, Errol, even

15:01

Jimmy Jordan will come through there so we've

15:03

got full confidence in them to

15:05

do their jobs and it's a really exciting night

15:07

so they're coming up against the quality midfield and

15:11

they're up to fight. Yeah mate,

15:13

what everyone wants to know is that the big

15:15

buds out and who's going to take

15:17

his spot? Are we looking at a Marty or are we

15:19

looking at McDonald? And I don't want the, obviously I'm not

15:21

a player now so I don't have to roll out that

15:24

club to

15:26

base him or whatever we want to call it

15:28

but who are we looking at tonight? I'm

15:31

going a Marty to kick four. He'll

15:35

come straight, he's a big presence up forward so

15:37

he's an exciting player so I'm going

15:39

to back him in to pick up the slack of

15:42

a bud. And a Marty party.

15:44

The other man who has been a Matthew

15:46

focus in the build up to this one,

15:48

Luke of course, is the former Melbourne former

15:50

Collingwood superstar, Ruckman, in Brody Grandy taking on

15:52

his former mates Max Golan in the centre

15:54

square. It is going to be a battle

15:56

to watch tonight. How's he been? What have

15:58

you seen on the track we're all wondering

16:01

whether we're going to see a sort of an

16:03

all-australian season from Brody Grundy again can he get

16:05

back to his best in the red and white?

16:08

I think he can I think the day he walks through

16:10

the door he's been really excited of the opportunity

16:12

he's got here and to obviously

16:14

have that number one ruck spot

16:16

here and hopefully get back to

16:19

his best is something I know he's really striving for I

16:21

think he's obviously just the genuine self

16:23

around the club and being a breath of fresh

16:25

air to be honest so he's really

16:27

excited to get out there tonight

16:29

against obviously former former teammates and

16:32

hopefully put on a show and get the season rolling.

16:35

Every club Luke over the summer go show a

16:37

bit of period of change or they'll adapt something

16:39

you played in the grand final in

16:41

2022 you had a bit of a down year last year

16:44

what are a couple of the changes you made over

16:46

the summer to hopefully catapult you into 2024? Alright

16:50

man you've got a tough questions

16:52

you do. I'm getting paid for

16:54

living now mate. This

16:56

is triple M, this is not crowd out here. Exactly.

17:00

Now obviously yeah you tweak little

17:02

things I think for us I

17:05

think just kind

17:07

of understanding momentum swings in game was it

17:09

was a big one for us we probably

17:11

previously in years opened up

17:13

windows for teams to score heavily and I

17:15

think it's how we adapt to that during

17:17

the game and not allowing those or shutting

17:19

those windows as quick as possible I think

17:22

a little bit with how we move the ball in those

17:24

instances but in terms of pressing the

17:26

ground obviously one forward half turnover so that's a big

17:28

focus for us. Well

17:31

last time you told me about ten things.

17:35

I thought that was confidential mate.

17:40

Life member to life member. Luke

17:44

they've obviously got fantastic defenders Melbourne known

17:46

for how strong they are in their

17:48

D50 so may leave a Tomlinson. Obviously

17:51

most teams create a little bit of

17:53

a plan for them. Have you considered

17:56

obviously what you're going to do lowering the eyes

17:58

getting the forwards moving nice and quickly? What's

18:01

your focus on those? I

18:03

think you just have to be patient going inside

18:05

this. You know those guys, they roll off really

18:07

well when you go in quick. I think

18:10

it's a balance between taking the game

18:12

on and going quick off turnover and

18:14

hopefully touching them

18:16

out or we know how much they like to

18:18

roll off. It'll just be about being

18:21

patient, taking the right options and trying to

18:23

nullify their influence. Hey Luke, before

18:25

we let you go, you've got a lot of pass-grates here

18:27

tonight. Anyone that we should be looking

18:29

out for or more or less anyone who's going to be

18:31

best on ground in the bar tonight? I don't know

18:34

the best stuff. Well Barry Hall's here, which I've

18:36

seen. I've never actually had a drinking session with

18:38

him that could be scary. Joey

18:42

Kennedy's looking like he can still play. He's still

18:44

shredded as ever. Here in

18:46

Jack's come over from Perth. There's a few of

18:48

them that'll probably get a bit wild later. Just

18:51

great to see all of them in here at the club. Go

18:54

well tonight. Thanks for being with us and we'll see you back

18:56

out there shortly. Thanks fellas, cheers. Luke

18:59

Parker joining us on the Thursday rub. Did you just

19:01

expose a few of the backstage combos? No, no, he

19:03

actually gave nothing away. I was more interested in where

19:05

they were having the party than I was. He

19:09

fit right in a great man. He's adjusted

19:11

beautifully. Hey teams are in next. They're just

19:13

starting to land now, Jay-Z. We'll go through

19:15

them next. There's only three games to come.

19:17

A little one before we head to

19:19

the break. One of the biggest names in the game,

19:21

Dustin Martin, is not going to be with the Tigers

19:23

as they travel up there to Gold Coast. So the

19:26

Tigers are just wondering. No cotch and of course, no

19:28

Reebok. They're retired now. They won't have the King

19:30

of the Donages. Dustin Martin, it's going to

19:32

be an interesting trip for them. But more

19:34

changes coming up. The team's a big loss

19:36

for the Piers too. We'll get to that

19:38

next. Us

19:46

for a better night at Futti at

19:48

the SCG. It's been a warm day

19:50

here in Sydney. It's going to be

19:52

a really, really nice night tonight as

19:54

the Swans and the Demons get us

19:57

underway for 2024 as round zero commences

19:59

at the SCG. new year, new

20:01

show and this is the Thursday rub. If

20:03

you're joining us from South Australia, welcome. You've

20:05

missed the first half hour where there was

20:07

a lot going on including Isaac Smith on

20:09

Deboo who's going at about 30

20:12

off 14 balls at the moment. It's just

20:14

started beautifully and settled in nicely. Well it's

20:16

still cricket season. And

20:19

you teed off exactly like the way you batted.

20:21

Kate McCarthy passed a fitness test. I've got

20:23

to say, K-Mac, you look like you're getting a bit

20:25

of colour back in your system now. You

20:27

were very unwell a couple of hours ago. How are we tracking

20:29

it sort of 6.30 local time? So

20:32

far so good. You tell me, how's it

20:34

going? Am I going okay? I'm just getting

20:36

through. You don't want to go off too

20:38

early. Obviously Isaac hasn't learnt that yet.

20:42

Just one step at a time. I'll be peaking

20:45

by fourth quarter I reckon coming on strong. And

20:47

of course Jay Z Clark who's ...

20:50

Have you spent a lot of time in the sun this

20:53

summer or have you been to Plough's house or

20:55

what have you done? This is the

20:57

brownest I've ever seen. Are you saying I shouldn't be

20:59

using the Sun Town lounge in my backyard? In the

21:01

old one in the garage? I shouldn't be ducking in

21:03

there? I'm not.

21:06

The Victorian Government's not either. You know the story. I'm

21:08

not going to tell a quick story about Mark Stevens.

21:10

You know about the Mark Stevens story? You'll be listening.

21:12

Steve O's a great man. He got spotted in one

21:15

of those old tanning salon loungers once and a mate

21:17

saw him through the window and ducked in. He's like,

21:19

Steve, why are you going in here for, mate? Beauty

21:21

parlor. What have you been doing? He's like,

21:23

no, I'm just waiting for my wife. She's in

21:25

there getting something done. She's back out in 10

21:27

minutes. And then next minute the lady who works

21:30

there goes, Mark Stevens. And the

21:34

mate looked at him and apparently Steve O, he

21:36

just sort of ducked into one of the rooms.

21:39

I'm not sure. Had his eyebrows plucked or a

21:41

little tanner. Whatever happened. Anyway, he

21:44

will enjoy that Steve O. Isaac's got his top

21:46

five things that he's most looking forward to about

21:48

retirement. Kate's got some words of advice for him

21:50

coming up very shortly as well. And we are

21:52

about an hour away from the bounce of the

21:54

ball between the swans and the D's final team

21:56

shortly. Jay Z. Clark, we've got teams landing for

21:58

the rest of the Let's start with

22:00

the Blues. I

22:03

think their ruck situation is really interesting. They've

22:05

left out Mark Pithinae who was the first

22:07

ruck for the Blues for a lot of

22:10

last seasons. Michael Voss has handed

22:12

the keys to the ruck to young Tommy

22:14

Dacone. It means Charlie Curnow and

22:16

Harry Mackay will play forward but you'd expect

22:18

Harry Mackay to do a bit of the

22:20

ruck work. I'm not sure whether he's wanted

22:22

to do that in the past but clearly

22:24

under this new forward structure he will have

22:26

to do some rucking as part of that

22:28

sort of situation. So Tommy Dacone, he re-signed at

22:31

the Blues and stayed. Big job for him in

22:33

the ruck course against Oscar McInerney in that

22:36

clash against the Lions. Richmond

22:38

who take on Gold Coast, Sam Naismith

22:40

is in for Toby Nankervis is out

22:42

there on Prestier and Nicky Vlosten have

22:44

both got up which is a nice

22:46

boost of experience of course missing Cottchen

22:48

Re-watt as we said retired and Dustin

22:50

Martyn will set his sights on a

22:52

massive clash against the Blues on Thursday.

22:54

That's the traditional round one season opener.

22:56

So a little under strength you'd think

22:58

the Tigers. Collingwood versus GWAS surprise call

23:01

here so no Billy Frampton. We

23:03

know Nathan Murphy with his concussion

23:05

stuff and no Jeremy Howe with

23:08

that quad issue but Craig McRae has

23:10

also left out Billy Frampton who played

23:12

in the grand final so Charlie Dean

23:15

gets his spot. He's missed out

23:17

last year with a lot of foot trouble so

23:19

he will play but that back line will be

23:21

interesting missing a couple of big names. Pendlebury is

23:24

in of course he copped a knock a couple

23:26

of weeks ago light on the track. Both wouldn't

23:28

play and Johnny Noble

23:30

has taken his spot to of course

23:32

left out of the grand final side.

23:35

So the big ones it's

23:37

certainly been interesting defensive look. No McStay,

23:39

no Murphy, no Howe, Isaac and Cade.

23:41

How do you think the pies will

23:43

shape up against GWAS? Yeah

23:46

I think it'll be a very I guess

23:48

new look back line almost for them. Howe's

23:51

been so reliable down there for them

23:53

but did play a large percentage of

23:55

that season last year without him after

23:57

the arm injury that he suffered early in

23:59

the year. Murphy

24:01

obviously still making his way

24:03

back through concussion and

24:05

I just think John Noble I reckon he'll have everything

24:08

to play for I reckon he might have a little

24:10

bit of a point to prove after

24:12

being the one that made way for

24:14

the grand final but I'm surprised no

24:16

Billy Frampton. I really didn't

24:19

think he had the best game in the grand

24:22

final last year. Yeah

24:24

but yeah I think

24:26

that's interesting but they'll have a plan obviously

24:28

Craig McRae always has a plan there'll be

24:30

a reason for it and I'm excited to

24:32

see what changes they make and who's going

24:34

to play that I guess second or third

24:36

tall that really sits back there for

24:38

them. So no McStay so Ash Johnson has

24:40

been named center half forward

24:43

Darcy Cameron Rucking of course and

24:45

I'm looking for Reth McInnis I

24:47

can't actually see him in the

24:49

team is he there I can't

24:51

see Reth McInnis so Ash

24:53

Johnson has been given that gig over Reth

24:55

McInnis trying to place Dan McStay in the

24:58

fourth half. I don't know about you guys

25:00

but feels like the Tigers are up

25:02

against it in round one that I mean it's

25:04

that there's if you buy into the storylines and

25:06

the Damien Harvick coaching against his former team and

25:08

the Suns well let's be clear the

25:10

Suns haven't been great in the preseason either but the Tigers

25:13

Jason almost as if they've held a couple

25:15

back from round zero for round one. Yeah

25:18

it's interesting I mean they're pretty taking a

25:21

cautious approach with Dusty and that little knock to

25:23

the calf of course. Under

25:25

Adam Uze learning a new game plan it will

25:27

be a big challenge for them but you know

25:29

the Suns under Damien Harvick as well so they're

25:31

doing obviously learning his how

25:34

hard is it guys when you get a new coach

25:36

did you ever get a new coach? You probably didn't.

25:38

No I was moved or a new one. And

25:41

he wanted me to go and challenge the game plan for me. Big

25:48

adjustment there for the Tigers I mean I'm

25:50

certainly not expecting them to play finals what

25:52

are the expectations from you guys for the

25:54

Tigers this year? Just quickly I did have

25:56

a new coach at times so I think

25:59

one thing it does it gives you this renewed hope

26:01

I think they sell you they could sell

26:03

you the same story but you'd buy it

26:05

because it's a different person telling it to

26:07

you so I think straight away both teams

26:09

will have some renewed hope they'll be keen

26:11

to go keen to sort of get out

26:13

and show what they have learnt

26:16

in the off season or the new systems that they want to

26:18

have in place. And I think more kicking at Richmond

26:20

too instead of the the handball and sort

26:22

of surge forward that they've been playing under

26:24

Damon Hardwick. Definitely but I think the pressures on

26:26

the Gold Coast Suns here I think the way that

26:28

they've built this off season all

26:31

the players the the whole sort of club has

26:33

come out and even dimmer himself has come out

26:35

and said if we don't like we will make

26:37

finals or that's our goal sets

26:40

them up to fail big time they've got the

26:42

easiest draw in the AFL so everything's

26:44

in their favour if this isn't the year that

26:46

it happens I think that'll be a very big

26:48

disappointment for their football club purely because of

26:50

the noise they've made around it. How long

26:53

did the Gold Coast sign dimmer for? Five

26:56

years I think. Yeah five years so I

26:58

think this year is irrelevant in how they

27:00

perform I think what you want to

27:02

say is you want to see dimmer and

27:05

the Premiership blueprint that he was able to deliver

27:07

Richmond you want to see that start to form

27:09

at the Gold Coast so I was

27:12

a little bit disappointed when I heard dimmer come out and

27:14

their president come out and say finals is

27:17

what we're after of course that's what you're after

27:19

and everyone in the football league and the football

27:21

world knows that's what you're after but to then

27:23

come out and say that if you

27:25

fail then what are the players thinking at

27:27

the end of the year this year of failure if

27:30

if the football world see growth

27:32

and see more consistent performances and actually

27:35

say the Gold Coast Suns put together

27:37

20 how many rounds we have a

27:39

hell of a world agent. You're the

27:42

one that plays. I

27:44

tried not to play all of them. And

27:46

if I did I was out there but

27:48

I wasn't really playing some of them. But

27:51

you want to see them put together a whole

27:53

season. Gold Coast traditionally they've had massive pre-seasons their

27:55

numbers in pre-seasons are outrageous and you see them

27:57

perform really well in the first five or six

27:59

games. games of the year but you want to

28:01

see them be able to deliver in round 18, round 22. So

28:05

yeah, I don't think it's finals or bust

28:08

for Gold Coast. I just think we want

28:10

to see a team that looks like it's

28:12

going to be a genuine contender over the

28:14

next two, three, four years. Three

28:16

of you are really well placed to talk about Clayton

28:19

Oliver. Jay-Z from a news perspective, it's been one of

28:21

the big stories this summer. Isaac, you're

28:23

fresh out of the game. Kate, so are you

28:25

but you're also in a coaching role as well

28:27

so you understand the nuts and bolts of all

28:29

of these conversations. So the three of you can take

28:31

this wherever you want but he's

28:34

playing tonight. We're told that he's had a really good

28:36

six week block in the lead up to round zero.

28:39

What does this all look like? I just

28:42

wonder whether, depending on how we talk about Melbourne's culture,

28:44

and I expect him to come out tonight and have

28:46

a blinder. If he had 20 possessions in

28:48

the first quarter, it wouldn't surprise me. Max Gaughan yesterday

28:50

said he's trying to win back the trust of his

28:52

teammates so he's lost a little bit there. He wants

28:54

to win back the respect of the footy world. So

28:56

he'll be a man on a mission tonight. I've got

28:58

no doubt about that. A lot of criticism of

29:01

Melbourne culture. Is

29:04

it possibly the other way where Melbourne is

29:06

standing up to one of its best players,

29:08

seeing some behaviours it doesn't like, and

29:10

actually said to him, well that's not good enough? How

29:13

have you considered what they've done with

29:15

Clayton Oliver Isaac? Well there's two things

29:17

to this. The noise that happens

29:19

outside the four walls of a football club is

29:23

hardly heard by the players. There

29:26

would be so many things that happened, and I

29:29

won't name them because I won't go back in history, but there

29:31

were so many things that happened when I was playing. And

29:34

as of 22, it

29:36

didn't splinter the group. It galvanised

29:39

the group. So I feel like we might see something

29:41

like that with Melbourne. And then to go on with

29:43

the culture part, Jay Z, I'm really

29:45

proud of how Melbourne has handled it. It's

29:47

been a shocking period for them. Oliver's

29:50

obviously got away with a little bit, and probably

29:52

a little bit too much over the last few

29:54

years, but they've stood up to

29:57

him, they've made a point of it. I thought

29:59

Gawney's done a really good job. really good job to

30:01

lead this group and that will only bring

30:03

the players closer together. There's so many different

30:05

parts to culture. So when it gets said

30:08

publicly that their culture is

30:10

terrible, their culture is shocking, we're

30:12

not choir boys, footballers, nor

30:15

will they ever be and there's always going to

30:17

be issues that pop up from

30:19

time to time at different clubs and

30:22

they've made a stand with Clayton who is,

30:24

other than Petrarca and Gorn, you could hand

30:26

pick any of them to be their most

30:29

important and their best players. So it's a

30:31

little bit different because his profile is so

30:33

big but yeah I actually think they've

30:36

done a really good thing for their group.

30:39

They've set some limits now and it'll

30:41

be interesting to see how their season goes. I think as a

30:44

team they're probably going to struggle to kick goals but it wouldn't

30:46

surprise me if they're playing off in a grand final at the

30:48

end of the year. I think the thing that surprised

30:50

me the most was just looking that he played

30:52

the two VFL trackies. Didn't

30:55

play the first grade trackies for

30:57

the AFL, not that that really counts for

30:59

anything anyway. There's a lot of

31:01

players running out around there in both levels of trackies

31:03

that are probably one or the other at the end

31:05

of the year but I think for

31:08

me that's just one that okay we'll make

31:10

him earn his stripes, earn his stripes but

31:12

that's a pracky match. Essentially

31:14

he hasn't missed out on playing anything really. I

31:17

wonder if it was even a

31:19

different thing, it wasn't even about earning his stripes,

31:21

it was more just get out there, enjoy playing

31:24

footy and see how many times you can get

31:26

your hand on the leather. If you're playing the

31:28

pre-season in the AFL side he's got to be

31:30

structured, he's got to do the team thing, all

31:32

those things come into it. I just feel like

31:34

they've said mate just go out and play four

31:36

quarters of footy and see how you go. It's

31:40

great to be back for 2024, the Thursday

31:42

rubs thanks to Thirsty Camel.

31:50

We're at the SCG tonight for the Swans

31:52

and the Demons who are going to open

31:54

the season. Kate McCarthy, Isaac Smith, Jay Z

31:56

Clark and Jack Heverin. Very shortly, Isaac Smith

31:59

top five things. He's most looking forward

32:01

to about retirement and not playing AFL and

32:03

Kate McCarthy's sage words of advice But Jay

32:05

Z we spoke about this before the

32:07

break Tim memory Yes Haven't heard a lot

32:09

from him during the preseason and that's his

32:12

right to do so that has spoken since

32:14

missing that final for the first time today

32:17

Of course he pulled out with some mental health

32:20

issues as a big loss big loss for the

32:22

Saints But obviously we care about the person first

32:25

Let's have a listen to what he said. It's

32:27

on the sink Hilda website very brave and open

32:30

about The challenges he

32:32

faced and encouraging everyone to seek some

32:34

help if they're struggling with their own

32:36

mental health you know last

32:38

year obviously Didn't end

32:40

the way I wanted to end You know for

32:42

me probably looking back on it now or something

32:44

that I had been probably dealing with

32:46

for a long time And probably putting a

32:48

mask on at times as well. You know, I hadn't really Didn't

32:52

know how to deal with you know What else are

32:54

going through and who to speak to who to

32:57

trust you know to see their faces And

32:59

you know just whether it's just

33:01

laying on the ground playing with them And

33:03

you know having a laugh and it's just

33:05

it really does just make all this stuff

33:07

worthwhile Yes,

33:10

so really good stuff there from Tim Embry

33:12

open about some of the challenges faced as

33:14

he said and the Saints have wrapped Their

33:16

arms around him obviously was really struggling

33:18

to pull out of a final as he did against

33:20

GWS last year So great to hear Tim Embry is

33:23

back up on his toes get help It's the best

33:25

thing that you'll ever do yep. It's the best thing

33:27

you'll ever do hey What about

33:29

the demons Jay and to everyone really

33:31

it? I'm sorry the bombers. I

33:33

should say yeah That

33:36

it feels as though there's expectation coming in

33:38

again from their fans They think that they're

33:40

one step closer, but do we

33:42

actually think they are well I was interested to hear

33:44

Matty Lloyd yesterday champion say is and fans should burn

33:47

down windy hill if they don't make the eight this

33:49

Year of course they haven't won a final for 20

33:53

years spoke a set with a senior coach

33:55

this week. They're not in a rush. It's

33:57

not 20 24 a bust for

33:59

an and playing group Kate who are still

34:01

very young. I mean he sort of said

34:04

that their age profile resembles a little bit

34:06

some of the rebuilding clubs and now they're

34:08

going to bring in Zach Reed who's played eight games. Arty

34:10

Perkins is going to get more of a girl in the

34:13

middle. Nick Cox who's been in

34:15

and out of the team. Young Ben Hobbs,

34:17

Jai Caldwell, Nate Caddy they've got Elijah Sada.

34:19

So there's a group there of six or

34:21

eight kids essentially. Zach Reed playing centre half

34:24

back. What do you think would be the

34:26

past mark for the Bombers Kate? Look I think

34:28

that's a fair assessment that Brad Scott's

34:30

come out and said that that's their building

34:32

and they have a young list profile but

34:35

I think try explaining that to their fans.

34:37

I think they're in this phase

34:39

of they've been desperate obviously to make finals

34:41

but then to win a final for so

34:43

long and there's been probably the most well-known

34:46

thing in AFL football over the last couple

34:48

of years is 7,000 plus

34:50

days since they've won a final of

34:53

AFL football. So I think I completely

34:55

agree with where they're at with his

34:57

assessment. Are they your team? No not in

35:00

my top eight. Not in close. Yeah I

35:02

think they're well off. I

35:05

think there's consistency issues for me.

35:08

I think the games that they should win

35:10

they always struggle to win and then

35:12

they will compete against some of the teams that

35:14

they can I guess put a little bit of

35:17

distance on. So I think when the pressure's on

35:19

they can't really cope that well. So I

35:21

just think from their list perspective and their

35:24

previous form there would have to be some

35:26

really big changes in one

35:28

off season for them to make the top eight in my

35:30

view. You played against them not that

35:33

long ago Isaac. How have you found the bombers

35:35

over the journey? Because they've been a side off

35:37

feel like they've been able to put scores on

35:39

the board and can attack but really defensively Tomahawk

35:41

kicked eight goals on poor Jaden Laverde at the

35:43

MCG on the bright sunshine. You can score against

35:46

them and that has been an Achilles heel for

35:48

the bombers. Oh you can and I think they're

35:50

in a very similar vote to Gold Coast Suns.

35:52

They didn't get Brad Scott in to win right

35:54

now. They got Brad Scott in because he's a

35:57

senior head he's got runs on the board and

36:00

He can wear some bullets and I think

36:02

from what I've heard is that they're changing

36:04

things not just at playing list level But

36:07

in the whole club so that takes time

36:09

to settle and that takes time. They're getting

36:11

people in right spots and Their

36:14

list obviously needs Some

36:16

other talent injected into it. So

36:19

I reckon they're a fascinating watch over the next

36:21

two or three years But yeah, I can't say

36:23

the making finals my jaw watched a little bit

36:25

of them against you long the other

36:27

week And I don't look anything into

36:29

preseason, but they're kicking in

36:32

their ability to control the ball

36:34

what they're doing Looks like

36:36

it's gonna hold them in good stead whether that helps

36:38

them win games this year I'm not sure but

36:41

I really like the way they're developing and they're

36:43

developing the younger players So Kate didn't have them

36:45

in her top eight to either of you to

36:47

have the bombers playing fine No, and only one

36:49

AFL captain in the skippers survey

36:51

did as well So it's hard to say

36:53

you got to burn down windy hill But

36:57

no one's picking them in here you can't have

36:59

it both ways can you so they're not in

37:01

that tapering expectations is no the most important thing

37:03

in footy and You want

37:05

your club your player your coach and

37:07

then your fans aligned? Not

37:10

sure you would you'd know what it's like to be down the bottom of

37:12

the ladder though, would you? And

37:17

also some stuff of calling what happening

37:19

to Jack so it's interesting Lee Matthews

37:22

said of calling what in the documentary

37:24

recently That they're living

37:26

in the past So they don't need to be

37:28

sort of enjoying the past success and making a

37:30

lot about the premiership win last year They should

37:32

be facing forward Craig McCrae fired back at his

37:34

old coach Lee Matthews today said get stuff Lee

37:36

we can we can do both things we can

37:38

celebrate the past and we can also be looking

37:40

forward You can do two things at once

37:42

speaking of celebrating Isaac Smith's had six months of

37:44

celebrating Isaac You've got two and a half minutes

37:47

Take us through the things that you are most

37:49

looking forward to in retirement now that you with

37:51

us on triple M footy. Oh Is

37:54

that what it is is it? I think

37:57

that's the question is it what do you? What

38:00

is the question? That's certainly not what I wanted. You do whatever

38:02

you want. That's what I thought we were doing. You do whatever

38:04

you want. I've got to tell what are the five things I'm

38:06

going to miss most about footy. Okay, do that. Same

38:08

shit for air. Is that what I smell? Yep.

38:11

Yep. Go for it. Oh,

38:13

I'm stumbling. I'm stumbling. You're now down

38:16

to two minutes. So

38:20

I'll tell you what I'm not going to miss and I'm

38:22

just going to start with this. Is walking into a meeting

38:24

after a soul crushing loss on a Monday? Yes. That

38:27

was horrific. And nor

38:29

should anyone go to that. But I've

38:31

flipped this on its head and I'm going the other way.

38:33

What will I miss? Go on. About

38:36

footy. So we're running with it. First

38:38

thing is free stuff as a football. There's

38:40

a hell of a lot of free stuff.

38:42

What free stuff? Not everything. I actually haven't

38:45

pulled the credit card out for 13 years.

38:48

That'll get a working over. The

38:51

second thing is winning flags. Yes. You

38:53

can't do that when you're retired. How many have you got to get? Not

38:56

enough. This

38:58

is a weird one. 30 is that feeling of

39:00

utter exhaustion. I'm genuinely going to miss

39:03

that. Where you walk off the ground and

39:05

I saw a couple of teams play last week and

39:07

just saw them walking off the ground. You win. You

39:09

get to go in. You have a beer with your teammates. You

39:11

get to eat what you want and you probably get 24 hours

39:14

at home where you just you can

39:17

do whatever you want. So I'll miss

39:19

that. I'm going to struggle

39:21

with doing nothing and getting paid well.

39:26

I'm sure you're getting used to that.

39:29

And I know I'm really going to struggle with

39:32

when the first bounce comes tonight. My favorite

39:34

thing was a big game. That first bounce

39:36

of the ball. When you're on the

39:39

wing you didn't have to worry about putting your head over it straight away.

39:41

You could just sit back and watch and you could see the crowd and

39:44

I'm going to miss that. We're

39:46

very glad to have you with us here on Triple M

39:48

Footy. For Lean

39:50

Hot Waterly McDonald's, Triple M

39:52

Rock Footy. Triple M. Hello

39:56

and welcome to a sold

39:58

out SCG, the opening game. of

40:01

the AFL season less than half an

40:03

hour away here between the Sydney Swans

40:05

and the Melbourne Demons. The members have

40:07

been queuing up since 2 p.m. this

40:10

afternoon at this famous venue wanting to

40:12

witness this historic occasion the first time

40:15

this place has hosted the season opener.

40:17

The last time the opening game of

40:19

the season was in the Harbour City

40:21

it was the Giants first game against

40:24

the Swans out at home bush but

40:26

here we are at this

40:28

famous venue. The Premiership Cup is making

40:30

its way out onto the SCG right now

40:32

and both of these teams fancy lifting it

40:34

at the end of the year as

40:37

well. Isaac Smith and Kate McCarthy alongside for

40:39

the call there's a real buzz around the

40:41

Harbour City tonight Isaac. Yeah it's exciting and

40:44

the City Swans are celebrating 150 years since

40:47

their first game of football so we're saying

40:49

some Sydney Swans greats walk out onto the

40:51

field at the moment and there's been a

40:53

buzz around the SCG all afternoon I'm pretty

40:55

sure you're the Sydney side that was saying

40:57

the members might be full and there might

40:59

be some getting turned away. That could be

41:01

the case it did happen in that prelim against

41:03

Collingwood a couple of years ago when the Swans

41:05

snuck into the final we're seeing some pictures on

41:08

the Channel 7 coverage

41:10

right now of those members pouring into the

41:12

place as well but I mentioned Kate McCarthy

41:14

is also alongside for the call and you've

41:16

got some triple MC bus super weekend predictions

41:18

for us Kate. Weekend prediction yes

41:21

so I think Brisbane are gonna kick a

41:23

big score against Carlton I think they're attacked

41:25

just with the outs that the Blues have

41:27

I think that the forwards of the Lions

41:29

will be a bit too good and

41:32

get a hold of Carlton. A nice warm

41:34

evening at the Gabba every chance of racking

41:36

up a score there you'd suggest the Lions

41:39

at the Gabba Sea Bus Super making hard

41:41

work payoff since 1984. So

41:45

big Swans flag out there in the middle

41:47

of the SCG and the man holding one

41:49

of their Premiership Cups right now they'd love

41:52

to have him available it's Luke Parker who's

41:54

gonna miss three or four weeks with a

41:56

broken arm how big a loss is that

41:58

Isaac yeah it's Matthew. for them.

42:00

I think they've been transitioning work

42:02

out of the midfield for

42:04

probably the last 12 months and they're transitioning

42:06

into being a more bit

42:08

part player playing forward, hopefully kicking

42:11

them some goals which he's done

42:13

in his career. But he's lost

42:15

with the leadership

42:17

aspect of things. They're a younger side now,

42:19

but I'm really looking forward to see how they

42:21

roll out in their midfield without Parker Mills

42:23

and Adams out there. And they're going to

42:25

have Grundy in the rock and it'll be just

42:27

interesting to see what they do in the

42:29

centre-bounce and how they set up. But it's

42:31

an exciting night for the Sydney Football Club. Some

42:34

legendary figures who've worn the red and white out

42:36

there with their Premiership cups as

42:38

well, the likes of Jared Healy. Diesel

42:40

Williams is out there. Brett Kirk, of

42:42

course, whose son is on the swans

42:44

list but unavailable due to injury right

42:47

now. And as you mentioned, South Melbourne

42:49

founded in 1874. So that's sparking the

42:51

150th anniversary celebrations for

42:55

the swans here throughout 2024.

42:59

Jack Hebron also going to call the game

43:01

a little later on and so much to

43:04

look forward to with what the visitors bring.

43:06

The Melbourne team is looking to put behind

43:08

them the off-field issues. They're interesting. It's

43:10

funny, they fit forth. They very

43:12

nearly made it to the last day in

43:14

September. And the feeling was that maybe

43:16

they didn't have that good of a year. So I

43:19

don't know about you, Speedy and Kate and Isaac,

43:21

but I think they're a real watch this year,

43:23

Melbourne. Yes, they've got some forward line issues and

43:25

they're going to have trouble kicking goals. But you

43:29

get on this team from top to bottom and it starts

43:31

with Stephen May and goes all the way down to Kate

43:33

Chandler at the bottom of the list who's a really nice

43:35

young player. I like the D

43:37

so I think they're a big watch this base this year in a

43:39

good way. Yeah, I think the point that you

43:41

made though, it's the forward line for me. How does

43:43

that look this year? Who's

43:45

kicking their goals? Because Bailey

43:48

Fridge can do it, but I'm not sure

43:50

who else you can really rely on week

43:52

in week out to turn up and kick

43:55

goals. I don't think Josh Shacke is that

43:57

player. He's had a while at the top

43:59

level now. and just hasn't really molded into

44:01

that key forward and hasn't been able to

44:03

get those consistent games which key forwards need

44:06

in the game so that's for me I

44:08

think their forward line is the real concern

44:10

but both other lines of the ground well

44:12

they've got superstars everywhere and arguably one

44:15

of the best midfielders if not the best and one of

44:17

the best defences if not the best as well. They're

44:19

a big watch this year Jack but I'm not sure

44:21

how you're gonna watch them tonight you got a concrete

44:24

ball. You got two TV screens in front of you

44:26

I can't see the oval I don't know how you're

44:28

gonna see it from there. We're gonna have to split

44:30

the ground in half speed I'll do one half of

44:32

the ground and you do the other. Isaac on triple-m

44:34

debut is just taking the seat where you should be.

44:37

Where are they gonna knock this stand

44:39

down and get some half-decent oxity? Could be a

44:41

little while I'd imagine. The Gabber's going first isn't

44:43

it? Oh is it? The Brisbane Olympics in 2032

44:45

but the Melbourne

44:48

team what they have done is they're thinking about

44:50

Christian Salem into midfield Jack Billings comes from

44:52

the Saints a form of pick three so

44:54

the delivery inside forward 50 is going to

44:56

be better. Can that make a difference to

44:58

make the forward line look better Isaac? I'm

45:01

not sure I'm not sure they've just

45:03

struggled so much to kick goals and

45:05

they've been throwing different tools in there

45:07

there was Tom McDonald they've

45:09

tried a few times Ben Ruhan I think is going to

45:11

be a very good player

45:13

but he's still young and he's still

45:16

developing Fridge it's hard for

45:18

him if he gets the number one

45:20

defender pick it out obviously it's going

45:22

to be an interesting night I think throughout the year

45:24

they're going to have patches where they score really well

45:27

and they're going to have to rely on their midfielders

45:29

to kick goals but it's

45:31

just an interesting makeup I'm really surprised

45:33

because they're in the Premiership go zone

45:35

at the moment I'm really surprised they

45:38

just didn't go and pay big big

45:40

dollars for a keyboard. This is triple-m

45:42

40 prime sign for Mitsubishi heavy industries

45:44

Mitsubishi heavy industries air conditioners put your

45:47

in the experts in air and

45:50

Kate McCarthy I believe you got some advice

45:52

for Isaac Smith on how to deal with

45:54

some of the triple-m talent it'll be alongside

45:56

this year. into

46:00

his first role he might be a little bit

46:02

nervous but clearly he's not. I think we've established

46:05

that. I actually probably should have got him to write

46:08

me a list. But

46:10

yeah I'll go, I've got a few things and

46:12

then I'll get on to specifically the triple M

46:15

talent that we have in the room or not

46:17

just in this room but in general that you

46:19

might come around in the commentary boxes. So the

46:22

first one obviously as a player

46:24

you're told social media posts don't

46:27

read the comments as a commentator

46:29

read them. Absolutely read them. There

46:31

will be nothing but complementary. Have

46:34

a read of them you'll get some really

46:36

good feedback and just ways to just continue

46:38

to improve. The second

46:40

one I had and I'm not sure you really need

46:42

this but if you're not sure

46:45

of something say it with confidence but I'd scrap

46:47

that because you say everything with confidence. And

46:49

sort of related to the comments

46:54

I think if the cats

46:56

are playing just be completely biased. Just

46:58

absolutely pump them up especially the ones

47:00

you're closest to. Pump up your mates.

47:03

Everyone that listens loves it so just

47:05

be a one-eyed cat supporter when they're

47:07

playing and then go and read the

47:09

comments because they'll be very

47:11

complementary. But when we're getting

47:13

down to sort of triple M talent we've

47:16

obviously got some big dogs that roll around.

47:18

None bigger than yourself obviously though. So

47:20

a few I'll start with Ethan Chu

47:22

so obviously the two stats extraordinaires

47:25

we've got Ethan here

47:27

today. We've got I

47:29

think the thing that with them they

47:32

pretend like they don't like each other

47:34

so there's like a pretend rivalry. It's

47:36

not a pretend rivalry they actually don't

47:38

like it. It's deep-seated and it

47:41

goes a long way. Next

47:43

one Joey obviously Lee Montagne triple

47:45

M we love him at triple M but

47:48

make sure you beat him to the food

47:50

at half-star. He

47:53

is the first in line. If

47:56

you are sort of just hanging around the box just make sure

47:58

you get him to bring you back. Next

48:01

one would be Nate. So you know,

48:03

Nathan Brown obviously, know him quite well.

48:05

Just don't rely on his facial expressions

48:07

to tell you how he's feeling because

48:09

it doesn't move a whole lot. There's not

48:12

much movement there. Why's

48:15

that? I'm not

48:18

sure. Some people get it,

48:20

some people don't. The

48:24

next one, Mickey Roberts. Absolutely brilliant, Mickey

48:26

Roberts. We all know how great he

48:28

was. St Kilda's finest.

48:30

If you want to know something, ask

48:32

Robbo. If you want to know something

48:35

quickly, ask anyone but Robbo. Next

48:38

one, Baz. Love Barry Denner. Probably one of

48:40

my favourites at the Triple M Call Team.

48:42

Just be convinced that he, you know he's

48:44

going to be convinced that the Bombers will

48:47

make finals this year. So all that stuff

48:49

we were saying about the finals, Baz, he'll

48:52

tell you that they're in the top eight. Probably in

48:54

their Premiership window. Couple

48:56

more for you. So BT, Brian Taylor. We

48:58

all love Brian. But the good

49:00

thing is, if you're calling with him, if

49:03

you want to practise some of your calling and

49:05

some play by play, it's really good because you'll

49:07

get an opportunity in the fourth quarter because Brian

49:09

usually leaves at half court. So

49:13

that'll be a good one to practise on. Stevie

49:15

J, just because he's hungover, it

49:17

doesn't have to mean that you have to rock up

49:20

high over as well. And

49:22

finally, my good friend Daisy Thomas.

49:24

Fantastic man. He got married over

49:26

the summer. And just make

49:28

sure the first thing you ask him is if

49:30

his wedding was better than Steele's

49:33

side bottom. I

49:35

don't know about you, Speedy, but that feels pretty comprehensive.

49:37

That's most of the team that have got it going

49:39

over. You know the only problem is, I didn't know

49:41

three quarters of the name she was saying. you